tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3890530692790573387.post7829687208944132282..comments2024-01-26T00:52:04.340-08:00Comments on SBPDL: "It's not a good way to live": Philadelphia Racial Violence Gets WorseStuff Black People Don't Likehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07923871032509110194noreply@blogger.comBlogger168125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3890530692790573387.post-54422490514861052702011-11-15T20:37:11.005-08:002011-11-15T20:37:11.005-08:00"Here is my plan. Find the perps, imprison th..."Here is my plan. Find the perps, imprison them for a while, allow carry concealed weapons, and have more police on the streets in all areas to keep an eye on everyone."<br /><br />Mr Evergreen, you obviously have no clue. I'm a white man who was born in the Olney section of Philadelphia, directly across the boulevard from North Philadelphia.<br /><br />The violence that I've been a victim to and a witness to in my life is staggering, on a basis relative to your average USA citizen. None of it has ever been initiated by whites. <br /><br />You can scan the blog here for a taste of the crime that I live with, as this site does a good job of keeping up with Philly crime for the most part. Oh, but did you fellas get the story about the black teens that recently robbed a white couple and raped the girl behind a house, forcing her boyfriend to watch, at gunpoint? That was recently. Blacks here are 40% of the population and commit 80% of the murders.<br /><br />Where do you live that you believe your solution to be any solution at all? That's like trying to huff and puff away a category five hurricane. It has no effect. The problem is with the group behavior.<br /><br />You ask us to care about the blacks that want to live away from the thugs? Why should we care about them? Not out problem, because your community is your problem. Your failure to raise your children correctly is your responsibility, as a group. We suffer at the hands of your criminals because of your failure to be an effective community in any significant number. If it wa up to me, Id force EVERY middle class peace loving black family to live in amongst the thugs until you are forced to make your communities better, at least to the relatively non-violent level of poor white communities. Having the behaved, normal black people run away from the bad ones insures that the problem will never resolve itself and black communities will never be successful, ever. You have to at least try, and can;t expect white people to respect or accept you if you do not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3890530692790573387.post-24633439726678982012011-10-13T14:08:18.704-07:002011-10-13T14:08:18.704-07:00evergreen
" Call me names all you want, but ...evergreen<br /><br />" Call me names all you want, but I'm telling you the truth. "<br /><br />I'm not calling you name, I'm making a factual observation. You tell the truth? I never heard anything truthful coming from you so far. Keep on working on that, lying to yourself will not benefit you in the end.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3890530692790573387.post-55097778570933286372011-10-13T10:18:51.057-07:002011-10-13T10:18:51.057-07:00"Wow, even everspleen is serving us the same ..."Wow, even everspleen is serving us the same rehashed garbage as Desiree!"<br /><br />Call me names all you want, but I'm telling you the truth.mr_evergreenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08343440218481916947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3890530692790573387.post-17227199736066212222011-10-06T08:54:12.233-07:002011-10-06T08:54:12.233-07:00If the greatest innovations occur above 145, your ...<i>If the greatest innovations occur above 145, your talking about less than 0.1% of whites, and essentially non-existent for blacks.</i><br /><br />It all depends whether Desiree took the Stanford-Binet intelligence test or The Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale! ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3890530692790573387.post-9404350851862380742011-10-06T07:37:05.419-07:002011-10-06T07:37:05.419-07:00Mr. Rational: "The accomplishments of a soci...Mr. Rational: "The accomplishments of a society depend partly on the average, but rely a great deal on the most brilliant members and what they can create for the rest to reproduce."<br /><br />Related to this, those on the far right of the distribution must carry the load for those on the far left. There is a point on the distribution where one is dead weight, and a point where one carries the dead weight. These points would be relatively stable, regardless of the average of the population. With the lower average IQ of blacks, the entire distribution is shifted to the left, putting a higher percentage of the population in the dead weight category while reducing the number of carriers.<br /><br />For ease of computation, let's say anyone below 70 is dead weight and anyone above 115 is a carrier. For whites, this would be 2.5% dead weight and 16.5% carriers. For blacks, the numbers are reversed - 16.5% dead weight to only 2.5% carriers.<br /><br />For whites, each dead weight individual would have 6.6 carriers to pull him along. But for blacks, there are 6.6 dead weights dragging down each carrier.<br /><br />In black societies, simply maintaining the basic tasks - procuring food and shelter - takes all the intellectual energy of even the most intelligent, because there are so many who can't consistently and efficiently take care of themselves.<br /><br />There's also the fact that true innovation occurs mainly above 130 - 2.5% for whites; less than 0.1% for blacks.<br /><br />If the greatest innovations occur above 145, your talking about less than 0.1% of whites, and essentially non-existent for blacks.Vannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3890530692790573387.post-80278778518809999242011-10-05T20:02:11.133-07:002011-10-05T20:02:11.133-07:00OMG, I just realized something.
The accomplishmen...OMG, I just realized something.<br /><br />The accomplishments of a society depend partly on the average, but rely a great deal on the most brilliant members and what they can create for the rest to reproduce. For instance, it only takes one Nicola Tesla to give the world electric systems from continent-spanning electric grids to fractional-horsepower motors with one moving part and no contacts... as long as the public at large is smart enough to support and produce instances of those inventions.<br /><br />Black people seem unusually susceptible to the Big Man phenomenon: whoever is the Big Man in a given Black area gets everyone to follow him, like a tribe. ("Unity in the community!") Black people will follow the Big Man even when he is wrong, or crazy.<br /><br />White people are far more individualistic than Black people. White societies since the Enlightenment are characterized by far greater levels of debate, dissent and skepticism... and White societies have largely kept peace locally despite this while maintaining historically unprecedented rates of positive change. We produce Teslas, try out the stuff they make, and adopt it if it makes sense, adapt it if we can, dump it if it doesn't work.<br /><br />All of this was achieved by by following reason instead of the Big Man, and the major social catastrophes of the 20th century—Marxism-Leninism, Naziism and Maoism—were throwbacks to the Big Man model. So are innumerable smaller failures, including The People's Temple and Heaven's Gate.<br /><br />This suggests that a society cannot progress unless its members subjugate social conformity to individual reason and debate. White people have passed the test. East Asians seem balanced on the cusp, and Blacks can't even get to the exam room on time.Mr. Rationalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3890530692790573387.post-79880303198140947022011-10-05T12:54:13.591-07:002011-10-05T12:54:13.591-07:00@ everboring
"Furthermore, White women are t...@ everboring<br /><br />"Furthermore, White women are the largest beneficiaries of affirmative action. "<br /><br />Wow, even everspleen is serving us the same rehashed garbage as Desiree!<br /><br />The largest beneficiaries of AA are NOW Black & only Black. Why don't you beat it?? You're so much like that Crazy Chubby Mulatto who was booted from this blog a little while ago.<br />And for someone who claims to be a student, you certainly spend a whole amount of time posting your drivel on this site. Get a life & stop being a nuisance!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3890530692790573387.post-84207337905087969282011-10-05T08:56:05.274-07:002011-10-05T08:56:05.274-07:00Evergreen:
I have no idea what you think that lin...Evergreen:<br /><br />I have no idea what you think that link adds to the conversation. Again, your inability to comprehend basic statistic al concepts is apparent. Your previous question, "how does it (statistics) serve the individual?" is telling . It doesn't; and this is irrelevant. You might as well ask how NASA is good for fleas.<br /><br />That a handful of blacks have demonstrated intelligence tells us nothing about blacks in general. Averages and distributions serve that purpose. What's telling is how rare innovation is among blacks; and especially black societies.<br /><br />Predictive value is a strong indicator of validity of a hypothesis. Consider what you would expect if black and white intelligence were equal or different (group level average), then look at historical and current situations. Which has the stronger predictive value?<br /><br />Now, that's all for me; I've humored you enough. The topics discussed here are beyond your comprehension. Ultimately, I don't care to convince you. If I had my way, I would never have to come into contact with you in any forum - real or virtual. It improves my safety and sanity.Vannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3890530692790573387.post-77225320068237713382011-10-05T08:48:57.671-07:002011-10-05T08:48:57.671-07:00"I would have to agree on that one, yes the l..."I would have to agree on that one, yes the large majority of Blacks are inherently quite limited and don't usually amount to a whole lot in life.<br />Affirmative Action is another failure, since most of it's recipients are grossly under-qualified, and cannot perform adequately most tasks whites could take on hands down"<br /><br />I beg to differ. If I were to really believe that Black people were inherently limited in what they could do, then I would have to believe that about myself, and that would mean having a defeatist mentality. How can a person do anything if they don't believe they can do anything? <br /><br />Furthermore, White women are the largest beneficiaries of affirmative action.mr_evergreenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08343440218481916947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3890530692790573387.post-71826944657972781982011-10-05T08:47:06.040-07:002011-10-05T08:47:06.040-07:00"Are you sure what you're telling me isn&..."Are you sure what you're telling me isn't a lie?"<br /><br />If blacks are these engineering geniuses, why is it that blacks are nowhere to be seen in math and science classes in college. Don't even start with the one or two exceptions you will inevitably cite. They aren't even in the same league with the kids who got into universities on their own merit, instead of matriculating as diversity admits (don't you wonder why Obama is the only US president to not disclose his academic record?). If blacks are the briliant architects of the pyramids and math/geometry, why did they all of a sudden abandon them and decide to forget all their vast knowledge to go back to living in mud huts in sub-Saharan Africa. If Hannibal, a military genius, was really black as Afrocentrists like to claim, why do contemporary statues of him depict him as caucasian? Why did modern Egyptians bristle at the casting of Lou Gossett Jr. as Anwar Sadat in that biopic movie? You can try to claim that anyone who is not black is trying to disinherit blacks of their great achievements due to racism, but that is exactly the reason why you will never better yourself..... You got your head too far up your ass.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3890530692790573387.post-46094035178957943912011-10-05T08:46:51.935-07:002011-10-05T08:46:51.935-07:00" Tell me, what is your major in college? Is ..." Tell me, what is your major in college? Is it computer science? Or is it Afrocentric Studies?"<br /><br />Actually, it's geography and I am seeking to get into environmental science as a second degree. I have never taken any courses on Afro-centric studies.mr_evergreenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08343440218481916947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3890530692790573387.post-68826607040612986552011-10-05T08:08:25.137-07:002011-10-05T08:08:25.137-07:00@ everspleen
"What do you want me to say? Do...@ everspleen<br /><br />"What do you want me to say? Do you want me to say that Black people are inherently stupid and aren't capable of anything? "<br /><br />I would have to agree on that one, yes the large majority of Blacks are inherently quite limited and don't usually amount to a whole lot in life.<br />Affirmative Action is another failure, since most of it's recipients are grossly under-qualified, and cannot perform adequately most tasks whites could take on hands down.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3890530692790573387.post-46750381261559964302011-10-05T07:51:24.808-07:002011-10-05T07:51:24.808-07:00If black people continue to insist that the reason...If black people continue to insist that the reason their neighborhoods are African hellholes is because the Irish, Italians, Germans, Koreans, Chinese, Indians, Turks, Argentinians, etc. are somehow conspiring to keep the secret of success out of reach of blacks due to inherent racist attitudes, then yes, you should say that blacks are inherently stupid. But if you can admit that black pathology is the main driver of black underachievement, then we can have a conversation. We're still waiting for you to answer the question of what it is that blacks contribute to society that outweighs their pathologies. Don't bore us with black invention myths. Tell me, what is your major in college? Is it computer science? Or is it Afrocentric Studies? Another poster brilliantly described that field as a political agenda disguised as an academic discipline for blacks. Our resident troll, Fat Desiree, claimed to be a bio-chem major but I assume she gave up and switched to Afrocentric studies, when she realized that she couldn't compete with the Dieter's and Rajah's in her classes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3890530692790573387.post-60075798232518992582011-10-05T07:18:41.490-07:002011-10-05T07:18:41.490-07:00Van, I have another link for you to look at: http:...Van, I have another link for you to look at: http://inventors.about.com/od/blackinventors/a/black_myths.htm<br /><br />What do you want me to say? Do you want me to say that Black people are inherently stupid and aren't capable of anything?mr_evergreenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08343440218481916947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3890530692790573387.post-75425025083391735892011-10-04T17:35:33.704-07:002011-10-04T17:35:33.704-07:00Evergreen: "Are you sure what you're tel...Evergreen: "Are you sure what you're telling me isn't a lie?"<br /><br />http://www.snopes.com/business/origins/blackinv.asp<br /><br />http://www33.brinkster.com/iiiii/inventions/<br /><br />Start with these two. Do your own research if you want more verification. Honestly, I've gotten worn out with you. You are either very good at playing naive, and intentionally toying with people; or you really are naive, and possibly lacking in the intellectual ability/honesty to confront the issues of which you keep asking questions.<br /><br />If you're being genuine, and you are honestly attempting to engage in debate, you are totally out of your league. You're dealing with people mostly in their 30s and above, with real world experience, a proper education in and understanding of basic (or beyond) statistics and research methodology, and above average intelligence.<br /><br />You are young, still in college and lacking real world experience, little to no understanding of statistics (demonstrated by your posts), and average intelligence (you can tell a lot by one's writing style).<br /><br />If you think you will challenge anyone's beliefs, you're wrong. If you think you have anything to say that hasn't already been refuted, you're wrong. You're bringing junior high school level thought to a conversation with people who have master's degrees in science and research.<br /><br />If you're questions are genuine, and you are open to the premise of this blog, stick around. If you are offended by the opinions and facts you read here, and think you'll defeat anyone in debate, you'll only end up discouraged and demoralized. If the latter, I recommend closing your browser, deleting your history, and never coming back.<br /><br />This blog is not good for a black kid that doesn't want to see the reality of his people.Vannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3890530692790573387.post-11711686096357069922011-10-04T17:23:28.534-07:002011-10-04T17:23:28.534-07:00mr_evergreen
"Are you sure what you're t...mr_evergreen<br /><br />"Are you sure what you're telling me isn't a lie?"<br /><br />The "Black Inventor Myth" was manufactured for Black History Month. It's a promotional tool aimed at making Blacks appear smarter than they truly are.<br />No wonder you believe in this carefully crafted fallacy!<br />everspleen could you take a break from this site? Most of us here do not find you very entertaining nor particularly smart.<br /><br />Black Inventors are an invention, LOl!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3890530692790573387.post-26861156826683278172011-10-04T13:44:58.480-07:002011-10-04T13:44:58.480-07:00"The majority of your examples are lies that ..."The majority of your examples are lies that have been fed to you to pump up your self esteem. Google "black invention myths" for a dose of reality"<br /><br />Are you sure what you're telling me isn't a lie?mr_evergreenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08343440218481916947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3890530692790573387.post-85029006250276718292011-10-04T09:13:17.844-07:002011-10-04T09:13:17.844-07:00Evergreen:
The majority of your examples are lies...Evergreen:<br /><br />The majority of your examples are lies that have been fed to you to pump up your self esteem. Google "black invention myths" for a dose of reality.<br /><br />In addition, it is true for the majority of minor innovations (whether the inventor was black, white, or other), that the innovation was inevitable, and would have been developed eventually. So while a black man did invent a device to help elevator doors close automatically (but not the elevator itself), eventually someone else would have if he hadn't.<br /><br />While this does not discredit the inventiveness of the individual (again, regardless of race), to assume that there would not be automatically closing doors - and that people would be falling to their deaths with regularity - if not for this one person, is rather absurd.<br /><br />Most minor inventions seem rather obvious in hindsight, and would've been invented by someone eventually.<br /><br />Major innovations, of course, are a different story. I'm not aware of any black contributions that one could reasonably argue we could not do without.<br /><br />Also, as you may have noticed, the majority of innovation is cumulative - building on past innovation with minor changes, improvements, and adaptations. Only in the context of white society has the rare black person been able to contribute. Left to themselves, there isn't enough intellectual capital for blacks to maintain modern society, much less improve it.Vannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3890530692790573387.post-48578716070278504592011-10-04T08:01:27.506-07:002011-10-04T08:01:27.506-07:00Hey Evergreen, do you think that whites can be pos...Hey Evergreen, do you think that whites can be positive role models for black youth and if so could you name some whites that you view as positive role models? <br /><br />Or could you at least name some black role models for whites and blacks to admire, I'm curious?<br /><br />Thank you.<br /><br />I'm talking in more of a contemporary sense here, not in dead men, but men that are still very much alive.Dissidentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3890530692790573387.post-19952429980292938382011-10-04T06:18:15.019-07:002011-10-04T06:18:15.019-07:00Please feel free to answer that one. I join Van in...Please feel free to answer that one. I join Van in being curious about what your reply will be"<br /><br />I will answer. Black people have made contributions to science for the time that they have been here in the USA. Garrett A. Morgan invented the gas mask. Elijah McCoy invented a lubrication system for. The fire escape ladder was invented by a Black man. Think of the lives saves with fire escapes. George Washington Carver found over 200 uses for the peanut(not peanut butter though) and helped to revolutionize agriculture in the South. Lloyd Hall was a scientist that invented multiple ways of sterilizing foods and spices. Scientist Dr. Charles Drew discovered blood plasma. This helped to preserve blood longer. This was important for WWII. Black people have contributed more to the USA than many people would think. Thomas Edison did invent the light bulb, but African-American inventor Lewis Latimer helped improve it by inventing the carbon filament.mr_evergreenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08343440218481916947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3890530692790573387.post-83079978631422094992011-10-03T20:12:04.735-07:002011-10-03T20:12:04.735-07:00mr_evergreen: Just because I disagree with you doe...<b>mr_evergreen</b>: <i>Just because I disagree with you doesn't make me a troll.</i><br /><br />Perhaps not but spouting so many traditional Black and Liberal talking points certainly makes you seem like one. I happen to believe, despite whatever misguided notions you may have, that you are sincere.<br /><br />That does not relieve you of the obligation to address polite and reasonable questions which are put to you here. Selectively answering those questions is a hallmark of disingenuous types and, as you can see, they are given short shrift at SBPDL.<br /><br />I have yet to see you provide any response regarding <b>Van</b>'s legitimate question as to what indispensable commodity it is that Blacks furnish modern society which cannot be gotten from Whites with far less risk or toleration of sullen attitudes.<br /><br />Please feel free to answer that one. I join <b>Van</b> in being curious about what your reply will be.Zensterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12004871212603603831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3890530692790573387.post-56116068042010336692011-10-03T19:44:45.814-07:002011-10-03T19:44:45.814-07:00"Well, I'm not contributing to violence.&..."Well, I'm not contributing to violence."<br /><br />Well, I'm not contributing white on black violence. So can we agree that we don't owe each other anything more beyond that?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3890530692790573387.post-83231100386871656582011-10-03T18:36:26.622-07:002011-10-03T18:36:26.622-07:00"why do we have to worry about them? How is t..."why do we have to worry about them? How is that our responsibility? What are you doing to stem the tide of black on white/asian violence?"<br /><br />Well, I'm not contributing to violence. When I was a crime victim, I called the police, and later testified against the criminal.mr_evergreenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08343440218481916947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3890530692790573387.post-28918909923734590482011-10-03T18:04:33.897-07:002011-10-03T18:04:33.897-07:00"What do you do about the Black people who ca..."What do you do about the Black people who can swim, sail, and like water? "<br /><br />why do we have to worry about them? How is that our responsibility? What are you doing to stem the tide of black on white/asian violence?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3890530692790573387.post-79015850833991742822011-10-03T14:37:00.559-07:002011-10-03T14:37:00.559-07:00"If they can accept civilization welcome them..."If they can accept civilization welcome them"<br /><br />We have reached an agreement. I am the type of person who likes a peaceful society where no one is killing each other. A society where I am treated no different than anyone else and where I can contribute.mr_evergreenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08343440218481916947noreply@blogger.com