tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3890530692790573387.post8213158071698415398..comments2024-01-26T00:52:04.340-08:00Comments on SBPDL: #109. The Pat Tillman StoryStuff Black People Don't Likehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07923871032509110194noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3890530692790573387.post-63669863296076598132010-07-02T01:24:39.614-07:002010-07-02T01:24:39.614-07:00Fact is there are very mean people in this world t...Fact is there are very mean people in this world that want you to be dead because you are American and not muslim. They don't care what stinkin color you are... Or how stupid you act for that matter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3890530692790573387.post-91895845232447641222010-05-02T13:57:07.773-07:002010-05-02T13:57:07.773-07:00"Instead of actually competing in existing ar..."Instead of actually competing in existing arenas, they keep inventing arenas where they can be the king: X-sports, MMA, lawn service businesses."<br /><br />Oh come on. What nonsense. <br /><br />Stopped competing? WTF? In basketball and football (in positions)? American whites?<br /><br />Name a sport the world cares about that wasnt invented by white folk (like 'em or not).<br /><br />White people play all kinds of sports (not just gridiron and basketball) and well. Lionell Mesi? The sport the world cares most about? Real football. Waybe Rooney?<br /><br />Actually MMA came from Brasil Vale Tudo and included black and mixed race competitors in that culture from the early days. The sport just plays to white "advantages". lol.<br /><br />X-games? Surfing and boarding started in the 60's when white's dominated all sports and even won the 100 meters now and again. lol.<br /><br />White people got bored in the frozen north so they look outside to the horizons and invent stuff.<br /><br />Oh shit I justed wasted 5 minutes of my life arguing online with a boorish dipshit. ahhhhhhhhh. <br /><br />All folks should just get on. End of story.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3890530692790573387.post-39207499310658257692010-05-02T13:43:41.550-07:002010-05-02T13:43:41.550-07:00May not agree with it all of the time (most) but t...May not agree with it all of the time (most) but this blog is an important voice ....<br /><br />"Tillman was motivated by duty and honor, ideals cherished by Pre-Obama America yet displaced and an anachronism in this era,"<br /><br />Hard to claim the Big-O is responsible for tossing duty & honor out the window. 8 years of dumd-dumb and Haliburton have left this country with a bad hangover.<br /><br />Pat Tillman's sacrifice was great for an endeavour that was hamstrung by the folly of Iraq. <br /><br />All Americans should be required to do a year (at least) of national service from 18 be it military, helping the elderly, picking up trash in parks, whatever.<br /><br />Our culture is increasingly afflicted by self-obsession, selfishness and greed which mock self-sacrfice and deferred gain. <br /><br />From what we see from black athletes one could conclude the condition is even worse in certain socio-economic circles? Seems so. Is there a generational component to this as well? Yep.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3890530692790573387.post-63677215861006193602010-05-01T23:23:54.841-07:002010-05-01T23:23:54.841-07:00Desiree_ You call a man stupid for wanting to fill...Desiree_ You call a man stupid for wanting to fill the gigantic shoes of his father and grandfather?<br />To understand you must first KNOW your father let alone your GRANDfather. Then they would have to have also been patriotic for you to have an inkling.<br />I am not going to discuss battle tactics and strategies with someone who can not grasp the simple. But here is a nugget to chew. Saddam had been a pain for years moving WMDs around and requiring advance notice of inspection and would have or should have been invaded and smashed regardless of nine eleven.<br />It is all about arenas and staging areas. Someday you might wake up. I will not reiterate what others have said about Haiti and africa be grateful for once. What do you have to say about the great culture of your ancestors selling you to the whites or the blacks who OWNED their own slabes in the south? Or the whites who were slaves or indentured servants as they were called. If you are going to rise up as you all keep threatening to do you better get a better clue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3890530692790573387.post-42583722150095822882010-04-30T13:55:02.072-07:002010-04-30T13:55:02.072-07:00The average white male is just a spoiled coward.
...The average white male is just a spoiled coward.<br /><br />Before it was easy, the system was designed to give white men advantages and non-white men disadvantages.<br /><br />But lo, women and non-whites were allowed to vote, go to college, compete in the work force, etc.<br /><br />Did white males step up to the challenge? No. They chose blue collar unions and good ol' boy organizations (read advantage). And white males are staying away from college like crazy.<br /><br />No. White men are now beer-swillin', UFC-watchin', cowards...who pine for the days when they had kingship given to them (Father Knows Best).<br /><br />Instead of actually competing in existing arenas, they keep inventing arenas where they can be the king: X-sports, MMA, lawn service businesses.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3890530692790573387.post-69382092408026669402010-04-28T03:35:27.657-07:002010-04-28T03:35:27.657-07:00Desiree,
The reason I feel sorry for you, is not ...Desiree,<br /><br />The reason I feel sorry for you, is not because you ceased being brainwashed. But because you have BECOME brainwashed. Kinda like those black people who go into prison , become a muslim, and have their names changed. Kinda like Muhammed Ali.<br /><br />And yes I am serious about what the flag represents.CWNnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3890530692790573387.post-47737706577834417032010-04-27T12:52:13.708-07:002010-04-27T12:52:13.708-07:00Desiree
C'mon thunderbuns, don't be hatin...Desiree<br /><br />C'mon thunderbuns, don't be hatin' on the brotha!<br />Maybe he was playin' it safe. The gonorrhea rate for Africans living in the US is an astonishing 77% of total cases. Genital herpes is a whopping 46%. Oh, and Africans living in the US have AIDS rates that resemble Botswana! <br /><br />Babycakes, I hope you find a fellow ALITUS and he can be supportive, faithful and smart. Good luck. I went to a very diverse city high school in the NE, whites in the minority. Rich, dirt po', Latino, Asian, ALITUS. I've supervised minorities for years. I was the "token" white on my HS basketball team. It's an impressive diversity resume. Here's what this white boy learned at school... Africans love free lunch tickets and stealing food while wearing designer clothes. I paid for my own food. The baby screams from the daycare room was filled with young Africans. "Street cred" is everything. The few that are smart always dumb down they language skills. BY FAR, angry African females are the loudest, rudist, fattest, and ugliest out of any group. When I took general classes the most disruptive group were Africans. As a boss, race baiting is common. Africans are generally the most disrepectful group in meetings. In 5 years, almost every disorderly act including physical violence and sexual harrassment involved non-whites. In 5 years I've fired 6 Africans and 2 Latinos. All 6 Africans cried racism. 4 screamed in my face (goin' out wit steet cred) and I've had my life threatened. However, this gangsta white boy ain't take no shit. One "racist" lawsuit, company prevailed. <br /><br />Desiree, here's some advice from a wise white boy who could knock down the three. Instead of potty mouth posts take some time to think about your situation. Your African ass lives in America. Despite your peoples behavior, this country voted for an African president (white guilt) named Barack Hussein Obama. Where would you rather be, in Haiti eating mud cakes? Or here bitching about "the man." Running with zebras in the Congo. Or here, bitching about Uncle Tom's and crapping on "our" flag. Thunderbuns, the game of life is hard for everyone. The ALITUS that are successful understand hard work, discipline and have settled down with marriage and a family!! Good luck. --the Man.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3890530692790573387.post-30063124749745037392010-04-27T11:31:12.704-07:002010-04-27T11:31:12.704-07:00@ Desiree
Ah, the mercenary fallacy! I didn't...@ Desiree<br /><br />Ah, the mercenary fallacy! I didn't think you'd go there, but thank you for the softball. There were actual mercenaries in Iraq, working for private firms such as Black Water, based out of North Carolina. They made more in a day than your average soldier makes in a month, so that's pretty specious on your part.<br /><br />If you are applying the term "chickenhawk" to someone like Bush or Cheney or some Fox News talking head, by all means, have at.<br /><br />You wonder, though, how someone can volunteer to fight in a war predicated on lies. I cannot speak for anyone else, but I will speak for myself.<br /><br />I knew from the beginning of the war that Iraq was going to be, as Thomas Ricks said, a "fiasco." I also knew it was going to be a nightmare. But I was also curious, as an individual to see if, after a life spent within the secure confines of a suburb, glued to a television, if I would be capable of enduring basic training and warfare. It was a personal test. <br /><br />Of course youth is foolish, and young is the fool, and if you want to call me stupid for risking my life for spiritual (not political) reasons, have at. But to call a dead man stupid?<br /><br />As far as oil goes, this country is going to face drastic hemorrhaging in the coming years that no amount of foreign oil can staunch. Rather than listen to me about it, please visit kunstler.com or read "The Long Emergency" by James Howard Kunstler.<br /><br />No doubt we are in Iraq for strategic reasons that have nothing to with Democracy. But if you think it is all about "blood for oil" then I have a Hybrid Prius with a trunk full of tofu that I would like to sell you, to go with that teenager wearing a Che t-shirt rationale.<br /><br />Thank you, though, for making your last post less painful to read than the previous one.<br /><br />Peace and chicken grease.Hirschnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3890530692790573387.post-49691342585032387572010-04-26T20:52:14.067-07:002010-04-26T20:52:14.067-07:00Hirsch:
I didn't really use epithets to the r...Hirsch:<br /><br />I didn't really use epithets to the recruiter; it just makes for a colorful paraphrase, although the sentiment is there...<br /><br />'Chickenhawks' still stand, though. The fact of the matter is that people like the aforementioned do lie and say you guys fight for freedoms when that is simply laughable fiction! You might as well be mercenaries fighting for a genocidal war over oil and other resources... It has NOTHING to do with blah-blah-blah-freedom-liberty-BS.<br />----<br />CWN:<br /><br />Why would you feel 'sorry' that I ceased being a brainwashed Aunt Tomasina? Are you serious? And are you serious about what the flag represents? Maybe in a perfect world I'd agree with you but that flag represents a host of other things. Negros okay with the Rebel flag need to get it together and stop Tomming for the Man. <br />We can agree on one thing, though: the military, or what's good about it, is being ruined by those pushing homosexuality; that is not the public's issue, but the military's. Cheers!<br />----<br />Anon @ 9:36pm 4/26:<br /><br />Not that you wanted me to interject into your madness, but, for the sake of everything that is BLACK in this Universe, can you please wise up and get it together? <br />Are you the Token that all of your friends point to when they say they aren't racist?<br />Do you 'let it slide' when they something completely racially insensitive?<br />'White people are fucking awesome'? *dry heaving at you* Most definitely SOME of them are; whites as a whole, as a political structure, as a system...hell no. Quit generalizing, you make yourself look like a desperate little house negro. <br />Let me ask you something, did you go out with a white woman because you liked her or because you have a fetish? I mean, if its *love*, than okay; there is nothing wrong with interracial couples in love! But if you were *intentionally* seeking out a white woman, you should see a therapist. And a black one, in a dashiki...<br /><br />Yeah, I'm fucking ranting because you are seriously backward. You were adopted by white people, huh? SMH. They always do that to children of color, erase their culture and make them 'honorary whites'. God forbid your parents are black! Then we have two generations of Toms! Please, don't scar your innocent mulatto child because some mixed folks are fucked up about their identites as it is... <br /><br />I wish you blessings and sanity when you are finally slapped into reality about your 'black as the ace of spades' color. It happened to me and it'll happen to you. My words will probably keep you away from more and more black women/people, but that's okay, sweetie; the fact that you got gear and electronics from your white benefactors in the mode of a hobo catching a quarter from a passersby means that you probably don't have a job (or a good one). Black women want a man who can support his family. Keep your white woman, 'kay?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3890530692790573387.post-75768013567703465872010-04-26T14:07:33.960-07:002010-04-26T14:07:33.960-07:00Last anon,
Thanks for reminding me about Jamaal G...Last anon,<br /><br />Thanks for reminding me about Jamaal Green, a player who didn't VOLUNTARILY leave the NFL as Pat Tillman did, but INVOLUNTARILY left. <br /><br />No team wanted to sign him, so he joined the Border Patrol - good for him though. <br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamaal_Green<br /><br />The point about Cuba Gooding Jr was to connect a greedy Black athlete in a film with the team he played for in the NFL (same as Tillman's).Stuff Black People Don't Likehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07923871032509110194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3890530692790573387.post-30265431019765018562010-04-26T09:36:35.538-07:002010-04-26T09:36:35.538-07:00SBPDL
What about the black man (Jamal Green) who ...SBPDL<br /><br />What about the black man (Jamal Green) who gave up his multi million dollar contract with the NFL to become a border patrol agent. That to is a dangerous job. That is actually were the real war is not some WHITE coporate war started by greedy WHITE politicians looking to make their pockets. You must also mention that Pat Tillman was murder by his fellow WHITE Rangers which was covered up by WHITE higher ups in the military.<br /><br /><br />Im black as the ace of spades. I know you dont like or care for diversity much but most of my friends are white. I personally think white people are fucking awesome. My white friends bought me this computer Im typing on (I didnt steal it), new clothes, a watch, XBOX 360, and calculator. White people are of a generous nature. My girlfriend is white and we are expecting in a few months.<br /><br /><br />"In the film Jerry Maguire, Cuba Gooding Jr. plays a Black wide receiver for the Arizona Cardinals who famously tells his agent to ‘show him the money’ in his next contract."<br /><br />Thanks for letting me know CUBA GOODING JR played a black wide receiver. This whole time I thought he was a white/asian wide receiver.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3890530692790573387.post-68413760005314067042010-04-26T05:17:45.741-07:002010-04-26T05:17:45.741-07:00Dear CWN,
You are caught in the layers of the oni...Dear CWN,<br /><br />You are caught in the layers of the onion concerning WW1, WW2 & 911 (Just to name three from the past that are linked to the current wars for the chosen). With focused research you will discover the core is as kosher as it comes. Wise up!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3890530692790573387.post-58918224765007432012010-04-26T04:34:38.077-07:002010-04-26T04:34:38.077-07:00@ Desiree. A chickenhawk is someone who advocates ...@ Desiree. A chickenhawk is someone who advocates war and does not participate. I didn't advocate this war, but did participate. Your comment isn't going to bother me all that much because it has no validity. But I will reiterate:<br /><br />You stated risk-aversion is a sign of intelligence, and is doubly important when one has a wife. Martin Luther King and Malcolm X did not practice good risk aversion, and both had wives. Thus, by your definition here, whether or not you own up to it, they were stupid.<br /><br />I'm glad you went into a rhetorical diatribe against a military recruiter who was doing his job, and that you invoked the epithets "beaner, white trash, and nigger." I'm also glad you didn't "name names" to that pinhead McCarthy-ite marine. <br /><br />And of course, you never lie. Everyone in the military should prepare for, as you say, "inevitable death." In fact, I'm not here, typing this. I'm dead right now. Oh, if only I'd listened to Desiree!Hirschnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3890530692790573387.post-39506673810898284952010-04-26T03:38:42.097-07:002010-04-26T03:38:42.097-07:00Desiree is only half right. The American flag is b...Desiree is only half right. The American flag is beyond war or a corrupt government. It stands for something beyond that. Freedom, liberty, exceptionalism, constitutionality, a free republic.<br /><br />Just as the southern flag goes past slavery. It is a symbol against tyrany, representing states rights, heritage, rebellion against a bullying government. Even representing christianity, the X. Even some blacks support the southern cross flag. Because they see past the propoganda about slavery and it being a hate symbol. There were free blacks who fought on the south's side in the civil war after all.<br /><br />Now as far as the military. Not everybody in the military goes to war. Not all military jobs have to do with killing. And those in the military are usually better educated overall than those outside of the military. <br /><br />That being said, the military is turning PC, will most likely allow fags into it, and is being run by an unconstitutional president. <br /><br /><br />"I'm calling what I believe to be a spade a spade."<br /><br />Spade a spade, now that is funny. <br /><br />Altho desiree, I am sorry that you are no longer a stupid house negro conservative. Now I guess, you are just a stupid , useful idiot, of liberalism and black victimhood. Way to go.CWNnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3890530692790573387.post-7771915808714498612010-04-25T20:06:09.502-07:002010-04-25T20:06:09.502-07:00Since Desiree apparently feels that it is more imp...Since Desiree apparently feels that it is more important to be Black than it is to be an American, How 'bout sending her on a one way trip to Haiti, where she can be just as Black as she wants. Everything is just black, black, black. All about skin color, nothing about your humanity, or how god wants you to treat your fellow man. Just black. If Haiti is too rough, anywhere in Africa will do!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3890530692790573387.post-89277095997356716692010-04-25T02:50:04.519-07:002010-04-25T02:50:04.519-07:00Look, Hirshie babie, I wasn't trying to offend...Look, Hirshie babie, I wasn't trying to offend. I was trying to understand. And now I do: most Americans (by Americans, I mean whites) worship the Flag. *Anyone* dying is unfortunate and I'm not one of those wackos who laugh about dead soldiers; please. I'm just putting it out there that maybe he wasn't that smart to try and 'be a hero'. Didn't he understand that being in the military and then going off to Iraq or Afganistan were predicated on lies? Or was he just that idealistic/naive? Don't get *mad* just because I'm calling what I believe to be a spade a spade. I took a test to be in the Marines in high school because that was the time when I was a stupid house negro conservative. Anyway, they wanted me because I did well. Then I learned the truth about how that organization lies to get bodies. I told that to a recruiter on the phone; I told him, 'I know what you people do; you like to convince white trash, niggers, and beaners that they will cease being losers in life and get everything they want if they are willing to accept the reality of inevitable death. Hell no, I'm not stupid enough to be interested.' The dude still kept me on the phone for another 40 minutes and even tried to get me to name friends, to which I refused. I don't want to be a part of that machine and be abused and brainwashed to kill people. Too bad Tillman didn't see it that way or had the insight to recognize it before he was killed. He was a fine piece...<br />Don't be so touchy, guy. There are people who'd say worse shit than my previous comment! I'm not ignorant; please *rolls eyes*. Quit with the Chickenhawks' talking points and let's get real: soldiers aren't dying for freedoms. That ended circa 1940s. The Chickenhawks just bank on dummies to come into the military and they are then brainwashed--just like the police--to hate evryone who looks like the 'target'. Fail.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3890530692790573387.post-58413538834405383842010-04-24T02:13:26.397-07:002010-04-24T02:13:26.397-07:00Speaking of the wonderful Military.
It seems now...Speaking of the wonderful Military. <br /><br />It seems now that the Marines hate southerners. Apparently the confederate flag is considered a "hate symbol" by them, and if you have one tattooed on your body, you then cannot join the marines. Southern pride is not allowed. <br /><br />Isn't that just grand? <br /><br />I am not even from the south and I can see this as extreme garbage. How disrespectful to all the southerners who have fault for their country.<br /><br />I wonder how the marines feel about a black being tattooed with a malcolm X symbol? Or a symbol of the black panthers, nation of Islam? I bet those are just danddy. How about a che guevera tattoe? What a joke.<br /><br />Another reason not to join the military. They hate southerners.<br /><br />http://cofcc.org/2010/04/a-southerner-speaks/#more-9739CWNnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3890530692790573387.post-49731479644933947182010-04-24T01:13:25.420-07:002010-04-24T01:13:25.420-07:00Listen, Pat Tillman was a good guy for doing what ...Listen, Pat Tillman was a good guy for doing what he thought was right. But he was just another pawn. A pawn used in the two unconstitutional and pointless wars we are fighting now. <br /><br />9-11 was an inside job, or atleast allowed by the government, or they were a co-conspirator. There is no way around that. Too many unanswered questions, too many odd happenings. <br /><br />Plus, you got the fact that our current "president" is not really a constitutional president. He was not "naturally" born as a citizen of this country. Therefore his orders to the military are unlawful and unconstitutional, null and void. <br /><br />So you take those two issues, and you can see how sad it is that we are losing American lives in these unconstitutional, false, unlawful, immoral, wars. <br /><br /><br />All soldiers should be honored for serving their country and doing what they think is right. But the truth is, that the government does not care about them, and will gladly let them all die for political reasons. <br /><br />Black guy,<br /><br />Some might argue that WW2 was an unnecessary war. With many British blunders leading us into war.<br />Among the British and Churchillian blunders were:<br /><br />• The secret decision of a tiny cabal in the inner Cabinet in 1906 to take Britain straight to war against Germany, should she invade France<br />• The vengeful Treaty of Versailles that muti- lated Germany, leaving her bitter, betrayed, and receptive to the appeal of Adolf Hitler<br />• Britain’s capitulation, at Churchill’s urging, to American pressure to sever the Anglo- Japanese alliance, insulting and isolating Japan, pushing her onto the path of militarism and conquest<br />• The 1935 sanctions that drove Italy straight into the Axis with Hitler<br />• The greatest blunder in British history: the unsolicited war guarantee to Poland of March 1939—that guaranteed the Second World War<br />• Churchill’s astonishing blindness to Stalin’s true ambitions.CWNnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3890530692790573387.post-51277951969787118442010-04-24T01:07:17.427-07:002010-04-24T01:07:17.427-07:00@ hirsh, i understand your point; i won't quib...@ hirsh, i understand your point; i won't quibble since we are on the same side of the coin.<br /><br />i just came across an article about the anti-pat tillman, new 49er safety taylor mays. mays blames his college coach for his disappointing draft position and is focused on competitive revenge. i realize that it's typical female journalism, stirring empathy rather than reporting facts. non-football fans may not be interested, but fellow readers here will quickly spot the all-too-familiar attitude at work.<br /><br />http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/news/story?id=5131914Phallusternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3890530692790573387.post-2520428199572494212010-04-23T22:32:01.850-07:002010-04-23T22:32:01.850-07:00P.S.
See http://www.feralfirefighter.blogspot.com...P.S.<br /><br />See http://www.feralfirefighter.blogspot.com for detailed documents aboutmy previous post.<br /><br />... <br /><br />I’ve taken the cover-up of Pat Tillman’s death a bit personally. Like Stan Goff (feralscholar.org, I feel a sense of kinship with Pat Tillman. In 1983, when I was “young and dumb,” I enlisted with an Airborne Ranger Long-Range Recon Patrol (LRRP) company. I grew up in the Army, enjoyed the camaraderie and the challenges. But, the lies of the first Gulf War were the last straw. After eight years, I finally left the Army in March 1991, and have been a firefighter the past 18 years.<br /><br />Four years ago, I believed Pat Tillman was a patriotic “dumb jock”. I refused to watch any of the flag waving coverage of his memorial service. It seemed like a sideshow distraction to the Abu Gharib story.<br /><br />But, the reality of Pat was much deeper than his iconic image. In October 2005, I read David Zirin’s article, “Our Hero.” I discovered a side of Pat Tillman not widely known –a fiercely independent thinker, avid reader (a favorite author was Noam Chomsky), and critic of the Bush administration and the Iraq war (“…this war is so fucking illegal”). Pat was a remarkable man who was driven by a core of honesty and integrity, led by personal example, and lived his life intensely.<br /><br />I was angered that the truth about Pat’s life and death had been buried by the media and government. Tillman was enshrined as an icon while the man fell by the wayside, his parents used as props at his funeral. Pat’s family still don’t have the meager consolation of knowing the truth about his death. “The truth may be painful, but it’s the truth,” his mother said. “If you feel you’re being lied to, you can never put it to rest.”<br /><br />Let us honor Pat Tillman’s memory by honoring the man, not the myth. The iconoclast, not the icon. As his mother said, “Pat would have wanted to be remembered as an individual, not as a stock figure or political prop. Pat was a real hero, not what they used him as.”Guy Montaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14472521653610959573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3890530692790573387.post-78466605731748663302010-04-23T22:27:16.790-07:002010-04-23T22:27:16.790-07:00“War is always about betrayal, betrayal of the you...“War is always about betrayal, betrayal of the young by the old, of idealists by cynics and of troops by politicians."<br /> -- Chris Hendges<br /><br /><br />Just before the 2006 mid-term elections, Kevin Tillman wrote his eloquent letter “After Pat’s Birthday” at truthdig.com Here's a quote:<br /><br />“Somehow the same incompetent, narcissistic, virtueless, vacuous, malicious criminals are still in charge of this country. ... Somehow this is tolerated. Somehow nobody is accountable for this.”<br /><br />Kevin hoped a Democratic Congress would bring accountability. But, just as with warrant-less wiretapping and torture, those responsible for the cover-up of his brother’s fratricide have not been held accountable by the Democratic Congress.<br /><br />In his book, “Where Men Win Glory,” Jon Krakauer blamed the Bush administration. However, the cover-up has been a thoroughly bipartisan affair. The Democratic Congress and the Obama Presidency have protected General McChrystal from punishment for his central role in orchestrating the cover-up.<br /><br />Sometime after his April 2007 hearing, Congressman Waxman got the word the “fix” was in, to lay off McChrystal. Perhaps because of McChrystal’s covert contribution to the “surge” in Iraq? Shortly before the August 2007 Tillman hearing, McChrystal was dropped from the list of witnesses and never interviewed despite his central role in the cover-up.<br /><br />Senator James Webb conducted a secret “review” of McChrystal’s role. On May 15th 2008, the Senate Armed Services Committee (headed by Levin and McCain) held a secret “executive session” where McChrystal testified behind closed doors about his actions “in detail.” Shortly afterwards, the Senate promoted him to Director of the Joint Staff.<br /><br />(Like Pat Tillman, James Webb has been a maverick and a fascinating character. If anyone in Congress should have cared, it would have been him. But, as an old man and politician, he’s turned into exactly what he once reviled as a young combat Marine!)<br /><br />On May 12th 2009, despite McChrystal’s role, President Obama handpicked McChrystal to be his new commander of the Afghan War and for promotion to the Army’s highest rank. Ironically, on the following day Obama gave the commencement address at Arizona State University inside Sun Devil Stadium without once mentioning Pat Tillman! [Note: see Bob Young’s “Obama’s Big-Time Fumble” (Arizona Republic 5-17-09].<br /><br />After a pro forma June 2nd hearing by the Senate Armed Services Committee, the Senate (begged by Senator Reid) confirmed McChrystal’s promotion on June 10th.<br /><br />It’s not surprising that after the initial fratricide cover-up fell apart, Army officers and the Bush administration lied to protect their careers. Reprehensible, but understandable. But the Democratic Congress, after they took control of both Houses in 2006, could have gone after those responsible. Or at least not promoted them!<br /><br />The media’s been complicit as well with the whitewash of the Tillman story. The New York Time’s Thom Shanker wrote a May 26th piece “clearing” McChrystal of all wrong-doing shortly before McChrystal’s confirmation hearing, despite receiving strong evidence to the contrary. since then, Thom’s enjoyed favorable access to McChrystal (so much for the NYT’s coverage “without fear or favor’!) <br /><br />Five years ago, Pat Tillman’s family were handed a tarnished Silver Star. It was a travesty of justice that General McChrystal was promoted to the Army’s highest rank, and handed his fourth star.Guy Montaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14472521653610959573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3890530692790573387.post-21370830210355096022010-04-23T19:13:41.961-07:002010-04-23T19:13:41.961-07:00SBPDL,
I read the aforementioned book and I was r...SBPDL,<br /><br />I read the aforementioned book and I was really turned off by the tone the author. <br /><br />Krakauer seems to have an axe to grind with traditional American values, and patriotism in particular.<br /><br />Also, I wouldn't piss on George W. Bush if he was burning in front of me, but here's a little food for thought: <br /><br />Do you think that the cover-up of Pat Tillman's death would have been investigated and reported on by the media if it had happened during Obama's presidency? Not a chance.<br /><br />Great post.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3890530692790573387.post-40609758150928268072010-04-23T18:49:04.773-07:002010-04-23T18:49:04.773-07:00@ Phalluster Turning Afghanistan to rubble (while ...@ Phalluster Turning Afghanistan to rubble (while tempting) would only manage to have the same outcome as our misadventure in Iraq. There are seven times as many terrorists in the world now, as a result of our meddling, than there were on 9-11.<br /><br />If we'd destroyed Afghanistan, I'm pretty sure every night a few new videos would surface on the internet of American tourists being beheaded in England, Amsterdam, etc. And with the international community estranged, there would be just as many terrorist cells (probably more) than there were on the day you decided to go Hiroshima. <br /><br />@Everyone acknowledging Desiree: the best way to be rid of a troll is to ignore it. Let it tire itself out.hirschnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3890530692790573387.post-22539746797463152542010-04-23T16:48:57.200-07:002010-04-23T16:48:57.200-07:00Remember Mr. Tillman among with thousands of Ameri...<i> Remember Mr. Tillman among with thousands of American citizens died fighting a corporate war predicated on a lie and a sham that is being continued by Barry the half breed. </i><br /><br />Indeed, black guy. You know, you and I actually agree on quite a lot! <br /><br />What I find amusing is the way so many white liberals and black pundits feel betrayed by Obama, because he hasn't actually inspired any hope or real change. <br /><br />Well, had they actually read "The Audacity of Hope," then they should have realized that he's a people pleaser who doesn't care a ton about the average person. <br /><br />Hope and change my ass. I just hope Barry the half breed doesn't get us involved in a war against Iran. I just hope some American politician is courageous enough to stop kissing Israel's ass. I just hope that the tea baggers finally wake up and start to protest issues that are of actual relevance to the white community. Well, I guess all I can do is hope.<br /><br />All I know is that unless he turns it around, Barry the half breed will be out of office pretty soon.Critical Thinkernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3890530692790573387.post-12397046325726420642010-04-23T16:04:19.294-07:002010-04-23T16:04:19.294-07:00SBPDL,
I'm in total agreement that the action...SBPDL,<br /><br />I'm in total agreement that the actions of Pat Tillman were honorable. My problem is with the way the U.S. government handled his death. The lies and the following cover up was nothing short of disgusting.<br /><br />The country hasn't been involved in a "just" war since WW2.<br /><br />-Black guyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com