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| When City of Detroit assumed control of the Detroit Institute of Art, the city was 96 percent white (1920) |
What happens when an 84 percent black city is $15 billion in debt? The second largest municipal owned museum in America (housing a collection worth north of $1 billion) is on the chopping block [
Detroit's creditors could target Detroit Institute of Arts collection, Detroit News, 5-24-13]:
A public spat over the fate of the Detroit Institute of Arts'
collection erupted Friday as museum officials sparred with Emergency
Manager Kevyn Orr's office over whether its masterpieces can be sold in
the event of a bankruptcy.
DIA spokeswoman Pamela Marcil said
earlier Friday the city is not allowed to sell off assets because of an
agreement with the DIA that says the museum will operate according to
professional standards. Selling off art would violate standards set by
the American Association of Museum Directors, which has accredited the
DIA.
But Orr's spokesman, Bill Nowling, said Friday any such
agreement would be invalid under a Chapter 9 bankruptcy filing, leaving
the museum's city-owned assets at risk.
Nowling also blasted the
DIA for failing to act when restructuring consultants approached the DIA
two months ago to warn of "a potential huge liability for them."
"They've been negligent to date in trying to find a way to protect a
tremendous cultural asset, not only of the city, but of Michigan and the
world," Nowling said.
"Burying your head in the sand is not the right
option that they should be looking at."
The DIA's Board of Directors has scheduled a special June 3 meeting to discuss the potential sale of the museum's collection.
Eugene A. Gargaro Jr., chairman of the board of directors, said in
response to Nowling's comments that the DIA has been "very proactive and
responsive in everything we've done, exercising solid stewardship of
our responsibility."
"I'm not into making accusations, here,"
Gargaro said. "I would like to continue the civility and the way we've
been working together. It's not our goal to have any kind of adversarial
relationship. We want to partner to help the emergency manager."
Nowling's comments came after the museum earlier Friday argued that
under the DIA's operating agreement with Detroit, "the city cannot sell
art to generate funds for any purpose other than to enhance the
collection" in light of the possibility that the DIA may "face exposure
to creditors" if Detroit seeks Chapter 9 bankruptcy protection.
Detroit, an example of a city operating under Actual Black-Run America (ABRA) guidance, continues to find ways to put the "d" in depravity and dysfunction.
The city of Detroit assumed financial ownership of the Detroit Institute of Art in 1920 -- at a time when the black population of the city was only four percent.
Yes, Detroit was 96 white in 1920.
Today, Detroit is 84 percent black.
In the early 1980s, the city of Detroit (under the stewardship of the first black mayor, Coleman Young) began to pull away from financially supporting the DIA; instead, according to Jeffrey Abt's "A Museum on the Verge: A Socioeconomic History of the Detroit Institute of Art," the city decided to divert $3.5 million in 1987 to erect the
Museum of African American History (MAAH).
In 1993, the city built an even larger home for the MAAH, spending $38.4 million to erect the largest African American museum in all of the land.
Now, because of the mismanagement of the city by black elected officials, one of the last remaining remnants of the culture black people drove away from the city of Detroit is potentially going on the auction block. But black people long ago turned their back on the DIA, as Abt makes clear in his book:
The differential treatment of the DIA and MAAH by the city’s
political leadership can be traced directly to Detroit’s evolving demographic profile.
Whereas African Americans constituted barely 4 percent of the city’s population
in 1920, the year Detroit
assumed ownership of the DIA, by the mid-199s African Americans composed 70
percent of the city’s residents. As discussed earlier, the demographic change
was accompanied by a shift in political power confirmed by the election of
Coleman Young as the city’s first African American mayor in 1974 and a gradual but
sure change to majority African American stakes in the city council and other
political arenas. Just as the DIA once symbolized and served the cultural
aspirations of Detroit’s citizenry, the MAAH now performed much the same role –
but for a dramatically different ethnic constituency than the one that
established the DIA. The point was made solemnly clear following Coleman Young’s
death in late November 1997 when his body was placed in state below the MAAH’s
rotunda for Detroit’s
resident to pay their final respects. (p. 244-45)
Earlier in the book, Abt makes this point about Young’s
victory as mayor in a 1974:
He was elected mayor on the strength of an African American
plurality in Detroit, and like most who voted
for him, he perceived his victory as an African American victory that truly
made the City of Detroit
their city. (p.186)
The condition of Detroit in 2013 directly correlates to blacks assuming control of the city and driving whites away. And as a way to pay off creditors, the City of Detroit - their city - might have to sell evil whitey's art...
An oasis in a sea of vulgarity.
That's what the DIA represents; to blacks, it might represent a way of paying off six percent of their debt.
134 comments:
CENTURION here:
I adore Art Museum. Never a Negro about. And, I really like Museums that have a "cover charge". That is true Negro Repellent.
The more displays of European art, the better. Fewer Negroes.
The fact they built a Negro Museum is good. Any Negro who would even think of going to a museum would most likely go to the Negro one. They do need an equal, but separate museum from us Whites.
Today, Detroit IS "The Museum of African American History."
Sell it off, get it the hell out of Zimbab...Detroit ASAP before they start using it for kindling and toilet paper.
Fine art is a White western cultural artifact. African "art" is a whittled totem with fucking nails driven into it or three cans of spray paint and a highway overpass.
Let's hope it winds up in the Hermitage.
Art is something for everyone to enjoy. It can be moving and inspirational for for those who are able to appreciate it.
It doesn't surprise me that the blacks in Detroit would rather have a "Looks at me! We Be Niggers and Sheeit" museum instead. They're so self absorbed that everything always has to be all about them, what they want and what they get.
An art museum in Detroit is nothing but pearls before swine.
Africans destroy civilization.
I notice that no one has mentioned any of the 'masterpieces' that would go on the auction block.
My guess is that the Detroit art collection is distinctly second rate. I just looked through the casts for this season at the Detroit Opera House. The cast level is about what you might expect at a middle of the road regional opera company. They appear to be no better than third rate.
An opera house and an art gallery indicate that someone is still trying, but it looks like the game was lost years ago.
I came to San Francisco rather than LA when I was twenty one because of the San Francisco opera. My buddy Bob moved to Washington DC to be near the Library of Congress. Cultural institutions attract the right sort of people. But I doubt if there is any person capable of making a positive contribution to society who is going to relocate to Detroit - ever again.
Albertosaurus
I think all of the items should be secured and driven or flown out of spookville, and saved in another location for future generations. Sell everything off to pay for BRA? How niggardly.
Rodin's "Thinker" is cast in black metal. Was he trying to tell us something by way of contradiction? It's current location in the bastion of negroville certainly takes irony to new limits.
@ hardscrabbe farmer
Is spot on. To a great many folks, those who have been blinded by PC and Cultural Marxism, this will immediately smack as "racism" to them.
Just one more great proof that truth IS racist.
Whatever "racist" means since it's a Trotsky coined word ever in flux with no discernible definition other than--anything white is bad; very, very bad.
OT..."According to a survey conducted in 2011, about one out of five military women said they had been the victims of sexual assault by another service member since joining the military."..PK, could you look into how many of these "assaults" were white men raping black women? thanks.
MK
CENTURION here:
The reason why I like this blog so much is the TOTAL HONESTY in which we see the world, humans, and the predictable outcome of what we know.
Do you all realize the awesome advantage we have over the rest of the brain-dead population? This collapse of Detroit, and the ultimate reversion to a grassland/forest is inevitable. The Negro will de-industrialize any civilization created by the White Man.
Shocking and amazing that an entire sub-species of "humans" can do this. Left to their own genetic encoding, they will decompose a city. Forget about building one (White genetics) or barely maintaining one (Arab, Hispanic genetic coding) but to actually dismantle a city. No desire or ability to maintain or add on. No. Just a rapid decomposition.
Atlanta, Birmingham, Detroit, Chicago, Johannesburg, etc. etc. Worldwide. Even just an area of a city, that they occupy, decomposes. The rest of the city is feeding this festering puss filed open sore, and the infection always grows larger.
The Negro can "SEE" about them and never wonder? They don't mimic the steps to even copy, like a good monkey would do? No.
Just despair, destruction and rot. Over and over. Everywhere.
Yet they want to be equal. They DEMAND to be equal, they demand to be equal and then go on to demand to be given things they can not create themselves nor appreciate.
So, we, the White Race, give them homes and they take them apart. We give them an education and they drop out..."too White". WE give them the finest health care in the world and they go about shooting each other, drinking swill and smoking crack.
We can not co-exist.
...it might represent a way of paying off six percent of their debt.
Good one PK. Pay their debt? Negroes don't pay any debt. They create debt, uncollectable debt. The same massive debt Obama is feverishly creating today.
But I agree with the other commenter who said that the art has got to be removed before it's used for kindling. That's inevitable.
They should let the remaining white patrons take a favorite piece home, quietly sell some of the larger art to museums still in white cities and walk away. Detroit is done.
Ex New Yorker here.....I hope the press doesn't talk much about the value of some of the art. Yahoo said the museum had Van Gogh and other big names. The tree swingers are stealing the copper wire from street lights. I hope they don't break in and steal the art. Sell the art to someone who will appreciate and treasure it.
But I agree with the other commenter who said that the art has got to be removed before it's used for kindling. That's inevitable.
I concur,wholeheartedly. Even if the inventory held by that museum is less than absolutely first rate,it still represents what human beings can do,at their best.
If the art in the Detroit museum isn't quite good enough to find a home in places like the Louvre,what of it? It's still better and more beautiful than anything 99% of people can,or will,ever produce in their lives.
And it's undoubtedly better and more beautiful than anything a batch of bellcurvii will ever produce. Period.
The collection deserves a better fate than being auctioned off at fire sale prices,or being melted down and sold for scrap copper,and scrap bronze. And being hammered into small pieces and used to patch potholes in streets.
Can anyone think of some ideas to keep it from this fate?
CENTURION here:
Does the meaning of this really sink in? Do you not all realize the significance?
The NIGER is so incompetent that they even have to sell off the artwork of the White Man to pay their f'n bills.
Do you realize what this really means. Not only the destruction of one of our most amazing city (and what it represented...the best of White Industrial Power), but the cannibalizing and hocking, like a Niger Pawn Shop, of our art. To feed viral niggers. To feed their fat, black ass, buffalo, hyper breeding sows.
As one poster said, we should GIVE them guns and ammo so they can finish each other off faster.....
Meanwhile, these Jiggaboos are going to be "partaying" in Miami (another city they never built) with EBT cards, on college scholarships, humping and jivin' and jumpin' and f'n to create more nigglets that WE, the WHITE PEOPLE have to feed.
If I really thought about this I would get very mad.............
So, the centuries of art work created from the minds of the finest, most beautiful, most generous, most creative people on Earth will be sold at auction to feed monkeys.
I'm sorry. I'm going to take a stand now. I want them all deported. If they refuse to go, fine, then we implement a solution that is final. Either way. I'm sick of this virus. I'm sick of these sub-humans.
Why should we have to "tolerate" them? Says who, the F'n Squids? F'm them too. Why can't I have a White Country for ME AND MY PEOPLE? Why do I have to endure feces and Mexicans, and puss, and Haitians, and fecal matter in my life? I work my ass off to have a dignified existence and I bother NO ONE, yet I have to go out of my way to avoid human dung?
I want them gone. I want a WHITE NATION of ONLY White People. White families. White children. White schools. White servers and doctors.
WHITE ONLY.
I'm sure the squids will be glad to pay pennies on the dollar for whatever valuable artwork is held by the museum there. I'll bet the Bloombergs and Banksteins are already salivating at the goodies they'll be obtaining on the cheap.
BRA is a massive looting scheme. This is just one more aspect of it.
"My guess is that the Detroit art collection is distinctly second rate. I just looked through the casts for this season at the Detroit Opera House. The cast level is about what you might expect at a middle of the road regional opera company. They appear to be no better than third rate. "
You are correct that the Detroit Opera House has suffered huge financial cutbacks in the past several decades, and that this entirely predictable process has drastically cut the professional level of the performers.
The DIA, on the other hand, is an entirely different matter; the vast bulk of the resident art collection was accumulated at a time when Detroit was one of (if not the) wealthiest cities in the entire world, and does indeed represent a simply awesome array of truly exceptional artwork.
Which is why the rest of the State voted for what amounts to an emergency millage to throw a financial lifeline to the museum back in 2012 -- the rest of the folks here in Michigan are acutely aware of just how impressive the collection at the DIA truly is, and are loathe to see it go to the auction block in order to pay down the debt that the residents of the city of Detroit have so corruptly and ineptly accumulated.
It is perhaps a pipe-dream to keep the museum alive under such trying circumstances, granted, but it is nevertheless a laudable if problematic goal to try and keep what amounts to a State treasure here in Michigan.
A vain hope is that the State legislature could arrange to procure the DIA collection out of the city in exchange for the inevitable and additional billions of dollars of taxpayer money that are going to have to be pumped into Detroit in order to ward off the the specter of an already zombie city degenerating into an even worse state of total, violent anarchy.
(And, yes, I'm aware of the almost axiomatic comment that would seem to follow the above sentence, but believe me when I say that the city of Detroit would be even more exponentially disastrous than it already is if the Great White Cash Spigot were to suddenly taper off for even a moment).
CENTURION here:
Fellow Whites. Start telling your children and everybody you know to move to the North West. Apply to college there. Move there. Look for jobs there. Migrate there for retirement. We need to get the White race moving.
We need to collect like-minded White people into a central area. We need to "take over" an area and begin to plan for what is coming.
Now, we here know the enemy reads this. They know what we want. They even know who we are. But, all that is no excuse. We are White. We are Right and it has to start sometime and someplace.
Move there. Then, form clubs and groups that begin to drive out the Negro and Mexican and Asians. We can do it. Sure, the Federal Squid owned government will come after us and some day we will have war, but what else?
If 20 or 30 million Whites move to the NW, then it will be harder for them. One White man is worth 20 Negroes and 10 Mexicans and 5 squids. Since we can still own and buy guns and ammo, we can stockpile.
If Iran, Iraq, Vietnam, etc can defeat the entire West, then we White Men can easily take on a Squid-Niger government.
We need a WHITE ORGANIATION. With it we can promote this and we could even buy the White Artworks from the Detroit Niger Museum of White Art.
We are smarter. We will win.
Oh, by the way, this is my last post for the weekend since I'm off to have some fun. I hear of a great beach party on Miami Beach. Fun,sun, girls, laughter, laid back kind of stuff, with surfing, music (Beach Boys?), ......oh.......it's a black thang?........hmmm.......I think I'll spend the weekend re-roofing my house and scraping the driveway and such...sounds like far more fun.
But, joking aside, I'm off to Disney with my snotty little rayciss white privilege kids......
DIA collection first rate- Donated by the auto industry billionaires-
"Today, Detroit is 84 percent black."
so who are the 16% who are so blind they can't see the graffiti on the wall?
"Rodin's "Thinker" is cast in black metal."
that's Rodin's "Taking a Crap".
P.K love your site but it often breaks my heart,see before you came along i could act like i was blind to the destruction of my way of life now the blinders are off ,i life in metro detroit so i have seen detroit dying a slow death time to take it off life support ,im tired of everthing being the fault of whitey now i know how the capt.of the titanic must have felt we he realised the ship was doomed & not enough lifeboats to go around .. royal oak dude...
Actually, Rodin's "Thinker" is probably doing a face palm.
I want a WHITE NATION of ONLY White People. White families.
Well you can't have that. You sound like a 5 year old. You have to share with people of all colors. One day you will finally realize how much they enrich the tapestry of your life.
Remember, diversity is our strength!
A while back I saw a report that there are Detroit old timers who take up collections to preserve some of the great churches which were built in the city during a more civilized time.
Sort of like Romans trying to maintain the forums and basilicas after the Fall...
The legacy of slavery followed by institutionalized racism has instilled a sense of apathy if not hostility toward "white" cultural artifacts on the part of the African American community. Perhaps this cultural divide can be bridged with the takeover of the Detroit Institute of Art by the Museum of African American History. The combined collection would foster a sense of healing and multicultural awareness that is vital to restore Detroit.
Harrison Limprist, PhD.
Sorry Albertsaurus. The collection was one of the best in world at one time. Most of the art collection contributors were the Ford, Dodge and other industrial millionairs. The collection is even superior to SF and Chicago. Many of the works that needed to be sold off during the black takeover, went to the Smithsonian.
Al Taubman, from the TMNBM, took over the running from the DIA from the founders society (old white money). He stripped most of the interior beauty of the old museum and got rid of the old museum fund raisers. The inside of the museum could pass as one of that crooks, he also owns Sotheby's and spent time for fixing auction pricing. The museum of twenty years ago was one of the best in the world. Now its is nothing of what is once was. There was even an agreement that there would never be an admission charged and money for running the museum came from founder society fund raisers. Two years ago I was charged admission and asked if I would like to buy a ticket to the African museum. My response was, why would I want to look at that crap. Last I was there a couple of years ago, Brunch with Bach was gone and food operations were moved from the Kresge court (1930s architectural gem) to a new piece of crap that looked like on of Taubman's shopping mall food courts. Too sad. Its even sadder that people do not even know what Detroit once was before Soulman Young.
Enjoy the decline--- let it go.
Let it all go.
It is too late to remedy the situation-- history must take its course. I don't mean give up-- smile & nod and take steps required to survive in a society that is winding down.
The past is prologue-- we must prepare for the aftermath of this civilizational collapse, not worry about saving museum art.
Bogolyubski said...
I'm sure the squids will be glad to pay pennies on the dollar for whatever valuable artwork is held by the museum there. I'll bet the Bloombergs and Banksteins are already salivating at the goodies they'll be obtaining on the cheap. (Emphasis added.)
BRA is a massive looting scheme. This is just one more aspect of it.
May 25, 2013 at 10:55 AM
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Oh come on now, everyone KNOWS that those works of art were stolen from "their people" during WWII by the Nazis. Pay for them? They'll DEMAND that they be given back to them for free.
I love this blog since I found it a few months ago. Some of the posts and comments make me laugh, some bring me sadness and some, like this one, fill me with overwhelming rage.
Everyday coming here gives me more focus and drive to move north. At least north of the 60th parallel. If there is anything that works as nig repellant, it is the great outdoors, threat of bear attacks and cold weather. Alaska here I come - and not soon enough!
As long as this art collection has been in the hands of blacks it would probably be no surprise if some the fine art turns out to be counterfit fakes. The real ones probably sold off by Kwame or Coleman Young.
Mich Mike
It makes one wonder if the root of the of the hatred that the other races feel for for us is not hatred of us Mano e Mano but what we can be collectively?.
Think about it... Of our aesthetic sense. Is there any other people that could create something as beautiful, as sublime, as heart stirring as say.. Beethoven's 7th symphony?, the prose of Shakespeare?, Michelangelo's "Pieta", the Hagia Sophia?,
Cologne cathedral?, Hmmm, anywhere?... The pictures of the earth from space stirs us, our people's footprints are on the surface of another world. Our machines are sifting the sands of mars & hurtiling through interstellar space!..
Is that the source of their hatred for us?. That they KNOW they can NEVER create such things?.. It is just not within their ability?.
Where are their equals to say, mother Theresa?, Albert Shweitzer?.. Nicola Tesla?, Galileo?, Kepler?, Newton?, etc, etc etc. The COUNTLESS inventors, explorers, scientists, artists, architects, thinkers, statesmen, sculpters, writers?, musicians?. Etc, etc, etc.
Where is the Asian Wagner?, or the negro Rembrandt?.
Have we created bad seeds?. Of course, as has all human races. But WE & we alone have utterly excelled in ALL human endevours. We & we alone wish to "save the whales" or rescue a people who are starving on the other side of the world!.
Could THAT be the source of their hatred?, why they wish to destroy us?..
CENTURION here:
Do you all realize the awesome advantage we have over the rest of the brain-dead population?
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It's a decidedly mixed blessing. We have the curse of Cassandra: We can clearly see the future (and the present), but no one will listen to us.
you all seem to be a bit lost in your thinking...and it seems that you all have definitely regressed and are content with that. I can't believe that there are whites who believe that blacks hate them and want to destroy them. Oh wait, I can, that is why many are prejudice today. I wouldn't dare waste my energy on such. Isnt it Christianity that whites forced on blacks upon arrival here, arent majority of the population in detroit Christians? If they really hated you and wanted to destroy you, they would shoot on sight as soon as they saw you. that is true guilt working on the psyche at its finest for someone to think such a thing. And for your information, there are many true Detroit citizens...myself being third generation born in this city, who are not happy with the recent decisions made regarding the DIA. Don't dare think because our culture is different from yours that we are not rich with it. Its evident our culture gave birth to the many ideologies and daily behaviors good ole white folks have adopted today. shame on all of you for being so ignorant and accepting it.
This is what I say...Offer every toad 50K$-all they have to do is sign a contract-THEY MUST LEAVE THE COUNTRY,AND CAN NEVER RETURN-PERIOD! Every fucking single last one will take the payoff,and we export our problem to Mexico.When they are broke in a week the comedy starts! If they try to return,send them right back.Second time they get shot. PERIOD !
"If they really hated you and wanted to destroy you, they would shoot on sight as soon as they saw you."
Actually, that would have been preferable to what we have today. THAT situation would have been resolved long ago. THE DWLs would not exist either. Problem is that the negro is remarkably inaccurate with firearms. In their drive by attacks, they seem to kill only honor students and not their intended victims.
The most destructive virus is one that does not kill its host immediately.
Ex New Yorker here......Forget about the dream of a WHITE NATION. It won't happen. What do you think the Drones are for. Living here in the Mid West I can tell you the people are dumber than shit. The single women are all fat and they spend the night in bars hoping some drunk cowboy will fuck them. The people spend all night watching television and eating junk food. They believe the government cares about them and their dumb kids still can't get a job after years of college. The STUDENT LOAN con job is very popular out this way.
Last week there were 12 planes spraying them like roaches and they don't even notice. They call it VAPOR TRAILS and JET FUMES. I seem to be the only one that doesn't get sick.
No one is coming to lead you out of this mess we are in. YOU ARE YOUR OWN LEADER. Any one that thinks they need a leader is already lost. God gave you a brain. Use it or lose it. Think for yourselves.
Get away from the big cities and tall buildings. All this shit is going to come tumbling down and it is best to be as far away from it as you can.
It is what it is and things will be what they will be. The smart ones will survive and the dumb ones will fall by the wayside. That is how things work. Stay away from the stupid people.
"Al Taubman, from the TMNBM, ..."
Whenever a force for destruction is unleashed, TWMNBN seem to always be nearby. They never carry out the physical destruction with their bare hands. It is always silent or indirect. But their presence is unmistakeable. My father always felt this way. When I was younger, I could understand his feelings against negroes as they were overtly violent and destructive. But the Jews where always good students and I counted several as my friends. So I respectfully disagreed.
Anyone who doubts this should check out Joe Biden's remarks in honor of Jewish American Heritage Month. Biden was actually praising the chosen but many cringed fearing his praise would feed into every "anti-semitic canard".
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/05/biden-praises-jews-goes-too-far.html
I like hardscrabble farmer's suggestion-- let's hope the Russians can/will buy the collection. Just how many run the gauntlet to visit the DIA anyway? How many current Detroiters appreciate it? (or libraries and bookstores?) Let them sell it and it will be $1 bn that they won't extort from the state of Michigan.
What a shame. This country is no longer interested in/can no longer afford to explore space, go to Mars, protect art and cultural monuments, preserve its history and traditions. It is now in the business of breeding negroes and becoming- in the name of multicultural diversity- the world's dumping ground.
"I can't believe that there are whites who believe that blacks hate them and want to destroy them."
Go check out color of crime then tell us we came to an unreasonable conclusion.
"Oh wait, I can, that is why many are prejudice today. I wouldn't dare waste my energy on such."
And yet here you post. Are you just shitposting or genuine troll?
"Isnt it Christianity that whites forced on blacks upon arrival here, arent majority of the population in detroit Christians? "
Yes. Christianity was a prefect religion for authoritarians that promote slavery. I honestly see it as the blight of Western society. What white Europe and America have accomplished in spite of a draconian Semite religion being forced upon the is truly amazing.
"If they really hated you and wanted to destroy you, they would shoot on sight as soon as they saw you"
And many would if they thought they could get away with it. The only thing to be thankful for is they seem to want to kill each even more than whites.
"that is true guilt working on the psyche at its finest for someone to think such a thing."
No. The guilt is thinking that the current state of Black culture is one to embrace and make excuses for.
"And for your information, there are many true Detroit citizens...myself being third generation born in this city, who are not happy with the recent decisions made regarding the DIA."
You are in the minority amongst your own and you know it. You can not honestly sit there and say that the average black in Detroit gives one rat's shit about what is considered "shit white people like". You know, as well as me, that merely liking fine art puts you at odds with the majority within the black community. It hurts your "street cred" as well as puts into question your "blackness".
"Don't dare think because our culture is different from yours that we are not rich with it."
Oh, I know you are full of culture. As someone who actually has university level anthropological training I can tell you there is no shortage of black culture. The problem is that current black culture does not integrate. Parasitic Black culture is juxtaposed to state level societies. It would be akin to moving in a tribe of Yanomami to the heart of urban centers of the Tang dynasty. Your culture is failing you and instead of owning up to the fact of the matter, continue to make excuses.
"Its evident our culture gave birth to the many ideologies and daily behaviors good ole white folks have adopted today. shame on all of you for being so ignorant and accepting it."
Please name that one great contributing factor or element that Black culture has given us poor culturally impoverished whites. The one thing that with out black influence would be the undoing of our civilization. I need not tell you that I will not be waiting with bated breath.
Mich Mike might be right "it would probably be no surprise if some the fine art turns out to be counterfit fakes. The real ones probably sold off by Kwame or Coleman Young."
You know when the audit begins this won't be as they have assume. Blacks can't keep their hand out of the cookie jar. I wouldn't be surprised if half the unexhibited works are already in hanging in the homes of negroes that had access because of the political position.
Don in PA said...
Could THAT be the source of their hatred?, why they wish to destroy us?..
Of course that is why they hate us. It is jealousy to the extreme. They know they can only be "equal" to the white man without set-asides, affirmative action, the EEOC, die-versity, etc.
Anonymous said...
you all seem to be a bit lost in your thinking... blah blah blah .... I wouldn't dare waste my energy on such. .... Blah Blah blah .... Don't dare think because our culture is different from yours that we are not rich with it.
Ah, but you did. Rich with culture, LMAO.
Our white cultural treasures both wasted in a black environment, and put at great risk in said black environment. This is insanity.
We, in realty, have liberal ideology to thank for this situation, thanks liberals. Thanks.
@ Mr Ken-
The military sexual assault epidemic is mostly BS. Servicemembers are now bombarded with anti sexual assault training, pamphlets, and posters that one cant make it through a day on post without thinking about sexual assault. The military doesn't have a sexual assault epidemic as the media and politicians would have us all believe. The military has an epidemic of false allegations, buyer's remorse, hypersensitivity, and political correctness. A male accused of sexual assault is guilty until proven innocent per the UCMJ and it's misapplication by courts martial, Article 32 investigators, etc.
I have to believe, That if Jesus, just before his crucifixion had met a 70 IQed African Black who have questioned himself thusly: I'm sacrificing my life to save those people from their sins as well, I must be wrong somewhere. Thanks.
To think that the Detoit Inst of Arts would have to sell fine art from a once advanced cultivated society to pay for the dysfuntional deeds of the groids is vile! Yes, art institutes are "an oasis in a sea of vulgaity".
"Ex New Yorker here.....I hope the press doesn't talk much about the value of some of the art. Yahoo said the museum had Van Gogh and other big names. The tree swingers are stealing the copper wire from street lights. I hope they don't break in and steal the art. Sell the art to someone who will appreciate and treasure it. " - Copper is easy enough to monetize. Art, not so much, and heaven help them if they ruin anything along the way. There'd be precisely zero market in it for them.
"We need to collect like-minded White people into a central area. We need to "take over" an area and begin to plan for what is coming." - not going to work, and the NW has plenty of foreigners and swpl liberals there as is. We're going to have to hold where we are. In the longer term, regression to mean would ensure the end of any society ordered along such lines. those 20-30 million whites would have children that would behave as those you would leave behind are behaving.
Send the art work to Grand Rapids. It's kept within Michigan. GR is mostly White, Dutch ancestry. And the Dutch certainly know something about paintings!
"We, in realty, have liberal ideology to thank for this situation, thanks liberals. Thanks."
As this site itself has pointed out many times and in a variety of fashions: it is not the liberal ideology per se that is the problem, but rather the combination of the ideology with populations that seem to *ahem* lack the ability to properly assimilate themselves into the context of a modern and civlized society.
As Kersey would say, compare and contrast Detroit vs. Pittsburg before casting too many stones in the direction of liberalism itself.
With a proper population, liberalism can indeed be a very viable social model that produces a genuinely admirable and civilized society -- witness the Scandinavian varieties of such, and them ruminate upon the implications consequent to the recent introduction of *improper* populations into such formerly serene and prosperous societies.
It's not the ideologies, gentlemen, it's the combinations of ideologies plus populations.
What dis libarry you be talkin bout, cracka?
"he military has an epidemic of false allegations, buyer's remorse, hypersensitivity, and political correctness."
They must figure anyone willing to fight for this government deserves anything they can dish out at them.
Yeah right, keep puffing on that crack pipe groid. Maybe you will actually believe what you are writing.
White Mom in VA
I'd say none. Otherwise it would be front page news on CNN and every black group in the country would be raising holy hell.
If the DIA has a Rodin at the entrance, does the Museum of African American History boast a statue of a "youth" in a "muh dick" pose?
Get the DIA collection OUT. It is in danger there.
I say take them out now and get them somewhere safe, before the heathen savage animals of Detroit can steal them/destroy them.
My thoughts exactly! There is no "great awakening" coming. Demographics have shifted. This is not reversible. We know that those who are taking over are not capable of maintaining or growing the civilization they conquered. Therefore further decay and eventual collapse are inevitable. Our job is to stay alive and wait. After the inevitable happens we can rebuild from the ashes. Until then enjoy the decline.
Keep the art. Sell the blacks. I'm sure John Deere has a museum..
I have not paid my student loans in a year. Don't plan on ever paying that shite off. It's all a big scam which will be the next bubble to burst in the US.
There is an article about what you said re: leadership within the white nationalism movement on Amren. This article points out that the white movement in SA in the 80s did not work because everyone depended on one leader.
The truth is that we are all leaders of our own paths here on this site and we are giving each other good pieces of info to carry with us. When the student is ready the teacher appears so to speak.
I can say I have learned a great deal since bei g on this site and my eyes have been opened further to the, excuse me, really fucked up state of things and how our race is being suppressed or oppressed. I am glad that I stumbled upon it and I have made it my homework nearly each day.
I have investigated and responded on other sites too. I like Amren and StormFront and Occidental Dissent.
I disagree with you Ex New Yorker that there will never be one White Nation, as there is o e here now. We are a nation in thoughts, in minds, in ideas via the Internet. Send out all the effin drones you want.,,,
We have participants here from France like Blances...and our SA friends. We need to get more people from Europe.
We can have one White Nation of the Mind on this blog. It is all a state of mind.
I taught high school English and the cannon author Milton, specifically Paradise Lost. He writes how hell is s state of mind. You know what that means? It is a CHOICE.
We can choose who we associate with.,, that being other whites. We can choose not to engage in the corrupt system. We can choose to make our own nation state.., I think it can happen in the physical world, but for now we have a white nation right here.
Long live White America!
Anonymous said...
@ Mr Ken-
The military sexual assault epidemic is mostly BS. Servicemembers are now bombarded with anti sexual assault training, pamphlets, and posters that one cant make it through a day on post without thinking about sexual assault. The military doesn't have a sexual assault epidemic as the media and politicians would have us all believe. The military has an epidemic of false allegations, buyer's remorse, hypersensitivity, and political correctness. A male accused of sexual assault is guilty until proven innocent per the UCMJ and it's misapplication by courts martial, Article 32 investigators, etc.
This disgusting piece of negro garbage, stood before the U.S. Naval Academy and essentially told the graduating class 'yo, homies, you gots to be keepin' the rapes on the down low, gnomesayin." This actually happened. A U.S. President told the Naval Academy cadets that they are rapists. Look, it doesn't get worse than this. If you're in the military, get out. Do it by legal means, but get out.
I'm going to be grammar cop for a second because it really annoys me when I read something like this.
A person is "prejudiced", an adjective or describing word.
"Prejudice" is a noun or naming word. "Pregudice" in this country seems to be growing.
Your post just screams to me that you don't read books.
"Our white cultural treasures both wasted in a black environment, and put at great risk in said black environment. This is insanity."
No kidding. I just looked at the DIA's site and they have some astonishing stuff - a large ancient Greek vase, a piece of the Ishtar Gate of Babylon, 'The Wedding Dance' by Bruegel, a Roman statue of Venus, plenty of 19th century American art by masters such as Frederick Leighton, James MacNeill Whistler, etc., lots of Impressionists, all sorts of decorative objects, Native American baskets...
It's like a castle under siege. Within - amazing works of intellect, imagination, artistic soul, and talent. Outside - jackals.
I homeschool my son - I tell people a bunch of reasons that sound good to DWLs but the real reason I dare not even whisper is that of course I"m not sending him to "integrated" public schools. No fool here does, so the public schools here are about 99.9% black, with a tiny sprinkling of exceedingly poor, stupid white folk. White people go private if the can afford it and Catholic (still mixed) or homeschool if they aren't - we're not Catholic.
So anyway, I homeschool. And we did art history. So I decided hey, we would be fair and look at art history from all over the world. Long history of art from Asia. Long history of art from Europe. Fair amount of art found from archaeological digs in South America and some from North America (North America, as an interesting side note, was actually considered "resource poor" for a long time, and was covered by glaciers until fairly recently in global history - it was never densely populated until Europeans arrived).
We get to Africa. I look and look. I couldn't find anything other than some contemporary woven cloth and a few carved statues from wood, some carved ivory stuff, and of course stuff from Eqyptian civilization. There's nothing outside of Egypt. Nothing from archaeological digs. Nothing. At first I thought that had to be a mistake, maybe it just wasn't really highlighted, but no, mostly they just didn't do anything. I made a few lame statements to him trying to make that not sound as terrible as it really is, just to be nice about it, and we moved on. I mean, for a while I felt guilty like, "if I had really studied harder and been a true diversified multicultural non racist person I would have understood the true achievements of Africans through the ages" but now I'm starting to see that really they just haven't done anything.
"I can't believe that there are whites who believe that blacks hate them and want to destroy them."
Anon @ 5:28 said:
Please name that one great contributing factor or element that Black culture has given us poor culturally impoverished whites.
Rap. And exposed underpants. Do I get a prize?
This is what those stupid, Marxist DWL craptards get.
My profession in "The Arts" has been the most eye opening experience in my move to race realism, and while I appreciate the great masterpieces created by artists from our past, the leftist social engineer perverts who run the arts deserve EVERYTHING THEY GET.
Our local Museum of Art is run by a gay Asian male with a grievance against the West.
Now, the art exhibits are all about disadvantaged minorities with a sob story about descrimination and zero talent. Brave, noble minorities who have "broken down the walls" of racism or "created art in a hostile world" or bucked the white man's system.
The arts is run by a coalition of godless freaks, perverted homosexuals, ball busting feminists, Obama supporters, status whores, Cultural Marxists, NEA welfare queens, race hustlers, wealthy globalist foundations, and social misfits. To hell with all of them.
It is NOT about the art for these people. It is about social control and pushing the narrative of multiculturalism and diversity. They HATE Western Civilization and the high art created by whites. They want to bring art down to the lowest common denominator.
This month, it is Al WEI WEI , a music concert by militant Pakistani Islamics, and an effort to reach out to the local ghetto blacks to "introduce" them to the arts. Hey, art is not just for rich white folks, people!
I am disgusted by all of them and they deserve to go down in flames. And they will.
Our museum is "free" (funded by white taxpayers...), but the DWL program administrators reach out to blacks and head-covered muslims and ship them in by the busload. All for "free".
They used to hire lazy affirmative action blacks as security guards, but they were sleeping and loafing on the job and were all fired. Now they hire young white college students at minimum wage.
Here is the day to avoid the Indianapolis Museum of Art:
http://www.imamuseum.org/events-programs/community-outreach
"The IMA is committed to connecting with organizations and groups throughout Indianapolis and the surrounding area by sending speakers and staff into the community. Visitors of all ages are also invited to come to the IMA on Community Days, when they can enjoy an array of special experiences including art making, film, performances, and tours."
"Get away from the big cities and tall buildings. All this shit is going to come tumbling down and it is best to be as far away from it as you can. "
UN Agenda 21 will force the rest of you into the cities. THEY WANT TO CONTROL ALL LAND, FOOD, RESOURCES, WATER, ENERGY, and AIR. You will be taxed and regulated to the point of surrender. The county roads will not be maintained. Gas will by $20 per gallon. Drones with cameras will spy on you.
They want all of us living tightly packed in the urban centers so they can control us. They are building thousands of mixed-use housing units and fake "walkable" neighborhoods with federal stimulus dollars right now in my city. They have great plans for rural whites. You will lose your land if you don't fight.
You can't run anymore. There is nowhere to go. You think they don't count every head?
You will never have your white country if the globalists have their way. No private property rights. Gun-free cities. I know how to live in the city for now. And it is very different from living a rural life. Much harder.
Stop Agenda 21. That is a good first step.
spooks have no use for he white mans culture. but if that same white man didn't want to pay for an oversized (in every way except in their wallets) mlk tribute they again are racist. but blacks will never, ever be civilized even with money and well ran cities. and the latter two is hard to find in the black-spook community! this shouldn't surprise anyone who ever looked at the way these spooks live. hell, you can always tell where the hood store is located. all you gotta do is follow the damn litter trail. and I hope someone took an inventory or there will be a lot of african statues missing in the display cases. GODSPEED/SEGREGATION NOW!!!
I think #thanksblacks should become a social media meme.
For example, place huge billboards right smack in the middle of the darkest areas of Detroit, Newark, Chicago, St. Louis, & Memphis that simply say "Ruined. #thanksblacks".
Or: "Live in most dangerous neighborhoods in America? #thanksblacks"
3 things that baffle them: science, civility and irony.
Go get 'em!
Ironically the LtCol. in charge of the Air Forces SAPR program got arrrested earlier this month for sexual assault, appx 1 mile from the pentagon. He looked like he won a ass-whooping from someone as well as pruning his own carreer tree.
Rich with culture? I have to laugh hard at that one.
I'm sure tour groups are rushing to print up brochures advertising trips to da hood so everyone can experience the rich culture. I can't wait to see the fabulous photos of all the elegant shopping districts, museums, fine restaurants, theaters, art institutes and the rest.
Once the tour buses filled with clueless tourists arrived, the tourists would all be refusing to get off the bus and saying, "What the fuck is this shit? Take us back!"
Of course, I doubt they'd make it out without the gangbangers forcing their way on the buses and robbing everyone first. The crowds surrounding the bus would be comprised of crack whores, drug dealers, scam artists looking fo' a dolla and other hustlers.
Maybe a tour group could offer an "Urban Safari" to see the North American pavement ape in it's natural habitat? Of course, the buses would have to have bullet proof glass, well armed security, and other safety features. Everyone on the tour would be given drinks loaded with anti-depressants before the bus arrived at it's destination.
Mmmmm Hmmmm! We sho' nuff gots a rich cultcha and sheeit.
Just recently found this site and I'm hooked. I enjoy the articles and the comments. It has inspired me, not sure the direction to take this inspiration but healthy living and physical fitness seem a good place to start. This article saddens me. Everyone sound pursue knowledge but I guess that is racist too.
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"Keep the art. Sell the blacks. I'm sure John Deere has a museum."
We have a WINNER in today's 'Quote of the Day.'
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If you are unlucky enough to drive through any 'hood,what sights greet you? Large groups of able-bodied toads hanging out all day,up to no good. Shucking and jiving,drinking swill,smoking/selling crack,looking for white marks. Across the street is a group of Mexicans and Central Americans,quietly waiting for someone to pick them up to work.Most do find work,and if not they keep trying.They save their money,buy cars and trucks,and move ahead quickly.They spend freely on consumer goods,contributing to the economy.Most are very family oriented,Catholic,decent people.They find time for healthy recreation like soccer for example.They work hard and bother no-one.I have no problem with them at all-they are productive and contribute! I would gladly trade all our toads for Latin people any day.As a bonus they have no use for Jamal and his ghetto games and aren't afraid to let it be known.They come here not even knowing English,and after a few years of hard work and thrift they have something positive to show for it. Meanwhile the same toads are on the corner complaining how unfair life is.
The first generation of Hispanic immigrants do indeed tend to be notably able-bodied and hard-working. But their children?
Not so much.
There is a rather marked statistical drop-off in the performance between the initial Hispanic immigrants and their succeeding generations, a particular problem given that US Hispanics tend to be a rather pointedly fertile population.
Which brings up the second point: The combination of a low-skill immigrant population combined with a high fertility rate means that even a hard-working immigrant couple can easily wind up running smack up into the whole kids to resource ratio problem.
If you don't have the scratch to take care of yourself and, oh, four children, the rest of society will wind up having to do it for you, and on the whole you will wind up becoming a net tax consumer rather than a contributor.
Ok. Who would you prefer working for you-- the Mexicans and Central Americans or the wild negroes???
And the beauty of it is that the government won't come after you for "racism" and discrimination in hiring because they are "people of color" too.
"...does the Museum of African American History boast a statue of a 'youth' in a 'muh dick' pose?"
that is hilarious - & all too true. we can only hope that a statue posed in that manner would be saggin'.
Although I've never been to the DIA, given the history of the city one might expect that the well-heeled benefactors of the day would have amassed a enviable collection. It seems obvious that the appreciation of this art, given the demographic composition and trend of Detroit, will continue to dissipate. I think it should be sold and ASAP. Moving these treasures somewhere far from this cesspool in haste is a great solution! Furthermore, to appease the local contingent, offer some of the funds directly to support the AfAm museum (groan)...it will make the simple-minded more accepting.
To the bigger issue...
How can any sane, rational, decent (white) person believe in some sort of resurrection in Detroit, and why would anyone want to continue to live there? I guess some people just can't let go or perhaps they just like to wallow. Why not take any and all the decent remnants of the once thriving white legacy out of Detroit and give it 100% to the nigs? It seems like this is the inevitable outcome, so why not just grease the skids???
It would probably be less costly to relocate the few remaining whites out of Detroit, than to continue to throw good money after bad toward the nigs. Upon the offer of these terms, any white person/s choosing to remain in Detroit will do so at their own risk. In doing this, we give the nigs a place that they can truly africanize and we have nothing further to lose. And as long as we're at it, why not leave caches of drugs, guns and bullets around to liven things up a bit...(hee hee).
Michigan folks should give this some careful consideration. I think the upper peninsula of Michigan is still relatively nice (probably because of it's low nig population) and therefore maybe a division of North Michigan/South Michigan is in order...just a thought.
MauiMan
Just recently found this site and I'm hooked. I enjoy the articles and the comments.
Welcome aboard!
It's not the ideologies, gentlemen, it's the combinations of ideologies plus populations.
This is a good point, but you have to consider that there are many populations in the world. You have countries such as the USA which start with a combination of European and African populations. Or Europe itself, which has invited in the masses of the third world. As noted, the combination of liberalism and certain populations is a formula for disaster.
Liberalism offers no defense against the demographic disaster, because when liberals get any power they immediately surrender frontiers, cities, and gene pools to non-whites. Look at the international movement against white-rule in South Africa. The sanctions would never had succeeded had it not been for liberal dominance in Europe and North America.
This is something which needs to be considered by advocates of a white homeland. Such a homeland would come under siege from mass non-white immigration (people who want to liver those "better lives" we are told they have a right to). And it would come under massive agitprop assault.
This is why race realists have to develop a viable ideology as well as economic system.
Once the hispanics get amnesty, they won't work "under the table" and thus will see their unemployment rise. They will get the same gibsmedat as the nappy headed fellows we all know too well.
And they will get their amnesty. The fix is in. When they advertise for amnesty on the Rush Limpballs show, you know the fix is in.
Anon @7:41; careful their kid, your liberalism is showing.
Mexicans believe they are the race to inherit the world. One of the many Mexican movements in America is called La Raza, in English that translates to The Race.
Mexicans indoctrinate their youth into Mexican ideology, they are in pursuit of the Reconquista and the achievement of the mythical state of Aztland.
70% of Mexicans vote democrat, democrats do not want a free enterprise Republic, they want a socialist democracy.
Socialist democracies are for the losers of the world and make manifest tyranny, poverty and misery.
Mexicans are not worth what they cost. They are a loser people, just look at Mexico, which by the way, would be in worse shape if not for American money they pilfer from us. Thanks.
If certain groups don't want to go to a museum, that's their problem. It's available for anyone. Same with libraries. You can bring a horse to water, but...
Albertosaurus,
The Detroit Symphony was second to none in its heyday. The conductor now is Leonard Slatkin (Jewish), who is world class. By the way, Jews (and now, East Asians) dominate the world of instrumental classical music - for the anti-Semites in this audience.
I'm guessing this museum has a similar legacy of excellence.
Don't be a coastal snob.
I'm sure the squids will be glad to pay pennies on the dollar for whatever valuable artwork is held by the museum there. I'll bet the Bloombergs and Banksteins are already salivating at the goodies they'll be obtaining on the cheap.
How is it the magnificent white man can be defeated by the 'squid' aka Jews, who represent less than .1% of the world's population ?
Be consistent guys. If you really feel IQ is all mighty than recognize Ashkenazic Jews are at the top of that list. You can't hate one group for being dumb/poor and hate another for being smart/rich. Again, you need to be consistent if you want to be taken as more than resentful fools.
There is a rather marked statistical drop-off in the performance between the initial Hispanic immigrants and their succeeding generations, a particular problem given that US Hispanics tend to be a rather pointedly fertile population.
From my perch as a high school teacher, I see Hispanics integrating pretty rapidly. Yes, it is not uniform, and achievement is generally lower than whites. On the other hand, is academic achievement between different white cultural groups uniform ? No, but no one notices anymore because everyone is mixed up. I should add they (Hispanics) are relentlessly bullied in urban schools where blacks are the majority. It's a bit scary actually. Of course, there are no whites.
Even if later-generation Hispanics do less than their parents,they still,on average,do 5-6X the work of the average toad and cause a hell of a lot less problems.They spend a lot of EARNED money either way I see no comparison whatsoever between Hispanics and toads.Perhaps I am alone but this is what I see.
Lorraine said ....
I taught high school English and the cannon author Milton, specifically Paradise Lost.
I wanted that domain name, had to get ParadiseGone.com instead.
Anonymous said...
I homeschool my son - we're not Catholic.
Don't have to be Cathoic to go to a Catholic school. But in Chicago most of them have been blacked.
Liberalism....the relentless destruction of everything normal and decent.
They are the totalitarians. Just like communists. They are no different. Current identity... Democrats and RINO's. The day will come....
Nature is racist
There is no ideology that can redeem niggers. They have an utterly different "understanding" of the basic social contract between humans. African culture is an expression of innate values...people create cultures.
Central America is full of low IQ and violence
I agree with you regarding most Mexicans and their determination to work and be productive. They can also make a good amigo. As far as art museums go, I never see minorites at the Art Inst of Chicago .Even the free Mexican Museum of Art has more whites attending than Mexicans.
"This is why race realists have to develop a viable ideology as well as economic system."
No Problem. We know what works and has worked since the Athenians. Small government that deals primary with foreign governments, flat tariffs that keep manufacturing in country, little or no internal taxation, interest free loans from the Government for business start-up, Strong private property rights, business rights, Labor battalions, etc.
We have just let these things slip away in the USA, never to return. As to the seething mass of non-white, too Effing bad. If they want to make Aztlan a model state, then great, but you know that it will be just like Mexico as soon as the ink is dry.
The Northwest American Republic will be White forever. Perhaps a little stiff in its manners (Dueling being legal) and a little strange due to universal gun ownership (like Switzerland) but also Proud and invulnerable (like Switzerland). Its ideology will be to secure the existence of our people and the future for White children. Its economics will be 19th Century Entrepreneurial Capitalism.
Welcome! Glad you've joined us. Accepting our daily reality is now a revolutionary concept, so just being here is an accomplishment. Please pick a handle so we can better keep track of conversations.
GG
@anon may 26,2013-11:330a.m.
dude man, what about this one? the first gen latino's were hard working no doubt. but I think the kids fall off because of the god-damned public schools/left leaning colleges with their ultra-progressive agenda that fucked up the 2nd, 3rd generation laino's! I can hear them now "the white man did that to your parents" shit right now. just a thought. either way we must stop this immigration bill coming up or we can be known as mini-mexico! and socialist thru and thru! that's all they know who to vote for! hell it won't take that long to have our first spic president. you know what a big deal they made for the 1/2 black guy! can you imagine the Mexican flags waving in the swear in ceremony! yikes, I won't live here if that is going to happen. national taco day? nope not me essay! GODSPEED/SEGREGATION NOW!!!
This is just so terribly sad. Contra albertosaurus, the DIA really was one of the greatest collections in America - just as the Detroit Symphony was one of its greatest orchestras, under the direction of the likes of Paul Paray & Antal Dorati. And now? Shame. Nothing but shame. Eternal shame.
Hahahahahahahahaha. Roflmao haha good one!
Firstly, as a general rule I would prefer Mexicans as workers, obviously -- though I would be *far* less enthusiastic about 2nd+ gen. immigrants as a labor force.
Secondly, the remaining whites in Detroit largely consist of those too poor, old, and/or stubborn to move, a scattering of urban pioneers, and those that live within the few remaining and relatively decently gentrified enclaves -- though it is worth pointing out that even such few decent areas as remain in the city itself are rare, *heavily* taxed, and busily vaporizing into final oblivion even as I type these words.
Thirdly, you do not have to go to the upper peninsula to find decent neighborhoods here in Michigan; many of the surrounding suburbs of Detroit are remarkably nice places to live -- which is why the horror of Detroit is all the greater, as the contrasts between Detroit and, say, Clawson or Pleasant Ridge are truly shocking when viewed in comparison.
Fourthly, it's not as if the conservative ideology acts as any real deterrent to the national demographic suicide of a western nation.
Keep in mind that even over in South Africa the previous generations of local whites -- a rather conservative bunch by any real definition of the term -- nevertheless invited into their country millions upon millions of foreign blacks in the name of cheap labor.
Which trend, and related to point one, above, is worth noting as a comparable demographic seppuku to what our current gang of eight are up to in Washington right now vis-a-vis immigration reform.
Lastly, and in the failure of both liberal and conservative ideologies to deal with such demographic death-spirals, there already exists a large and well-funded group of political dissidents to the glories of multicultural integration.
It's called white flight.
A sad, wasteful, and ultimately ineffective strategy for dealing with the long-term demographic prospects of the US, to be sure -- witness the eventual fate of the whites in SA as a testament to the truth of the preceding statement, if nothing else -- but, and in the absence of any real resistance on the part of either major political party to such obviously self-destructive immigration policies, it's the best that we have at the moment.
In an odd sort of way the sweeping demographic and legal changes of the past fifty years or so here within the US have brought our society full circle back to our originally nomadic hominid roots.
So right you are Dr.Limprist lol, we white people have been so enriched by the diversity!
Exactly! And its never ever going to "change" and we must never ever forget this nor allow OUR Children to forget, for it will always be this way between us and them.
Dear 10 mm:
Sometime back, you drew my attention to a list of blogs re: preppers. There was one blog that I checked out,.. Forgot the title... But it is by a woman who is does home birthing, home schooling etc.
Could you post the name of the blog again?
Thank you
White Mom in VA
I suspect that there are regional differences in how we white people view Latino's for example I'm. From Az and i honestly don't recall a time when Mexicans weren't there, the Southwestern states and Mexico have a shared culture take a look at the architecture, food, clothing and so many other things, many white people there have Latino relatives myself included and they are hard working people, they go to Church, own businesses, own homes, and contribute to society some serve in our Military and not all of them are libral either, there are some conservative Latinos whose families have been a part of our society for well over 100 yrs. Just something to consider. They aren't all the same.
What you pointed out about SA is so true. My father is Dutch and knows alot about the history of SA. It was really majority white and then in the name of cheap labor, which is not better, they brought in a bunch of groids.
It is class warfare and it tears white society apart.
A number of wealthy Brits immigrated to SA in the 60s as Britain was developing more policies that were friendly to the lower classes. These wealthy people fled to avoid paying more taxes.
Same story, new place.
If you are a middle, working, or lower class white, your best bet for survival is to become more self reliant and to separate yourself from the system. The system wants us to be serfs. We have to fight this every step of the way and I believe secession is the answer.
I want to comment on IQ again. It really does not measure creativity or innovation. It measures conformity. Jail birds tend to have low IQs because they are always getting caught... The big criminals who never get caught or who get busted once and hard have IQs because they are able to HIDE and CONFORM.
Think about that: which groups out there have high IQs and are able to hide and conform and yet steal from the White's creativity and innovation?
IQ measures conformity to a construct that the WHITE man created. The Jews and the Asians have conformed to our constructs to a 'tee'. They are not 'smarter' they are better conformists. That's all.
Now, white people, we need to get busy doing what we do best, that being trail blazing and creating a new way for US to survive and THRIVE. Disengage from the system, as it is out to screw you.
White Mom in VA
Lorraine @ 706:
Dont remember if 10 MM listed prepper blogs but i did.
You may be referring to the Paratus Familia blog so I'll recopy it:
Lorraine;
Supposing that you do move to Wyoming, or rural Texas, or upper penisula Michigan:
Don't try it cold. Make contacts and connections in the area first, in the internet era this is much easier to do. Seek out preppers, survivalists, rural Mormons, grasslands farmers and ranchers, what are called 'smart rednecks'; rural folks with skills like electrician, welder, stonemason. Look for building personal relationship rather than strict ideologicial or religious sympathy.
Consider that you, as an educated urban dweller may actually have skills and knowledge that will benefit your new neighbors.
Check out people like John Wesley Rawles, or the housewife who writes the Paratus Familia blog.
http://www.paratusfamiliablog.com/
Do not be put off by the fact that these people specifically reject white racialism. They are they kind of folks you want to live around and thay have skills you will need to know.
Good luck, but you won't have it unless you work your ass off for it.
@pat: The DIA has a collection commensurate with the size of the city. It's not the Met, but it's got some wonderful works. The people of Michigan need to take action to secure its future.
Using the black community a reference point to measure the relative success of any immigrant group to the US is to *cough* choose a pretty piss-poor yardstick, so we might as well drop the point from consideration.
Comparatively speaking, yes, Hispanics -- even with their generational drop-off in performance -- are a damn sight better than our native black population, granted.
But, and as immigrant groups go, how do Hispanics collectively stack up against, say, a large group of immigrant Han Chinese?
If the nation in it's infinite wisdom has determined that we need to have mass immigration into the US to maintain, let us hypothetically say for the sake of argument, our working population levels...why on God's green earth would we not choose from among the *best* available groups of potential citizen recruits?
Why not invite in thirty million Chinese rather than an equivalent number of Hispanics? Why not cherry-pick the hell out of India, Korea, Vietnam, and so on?
The basic idea behind a positive immigration policy is to invite in the best that the world has to offer, and then sit back and enjoy the sight of such powerhouse immigrants going forth and prospering mightily -- which phenomena, in turn, makes the US an even better place to live, which, again in turn, makes the US into an even more attractive destination for the next wave of potential high-quality immigrants.
This is the very definition of a nationally virtuous circle vis-a-vis immigration policy -- yet it is also one that, quite simply, does not apply to the current torrent of Hispanic immigrants into the US.
Putting it a bit bluntly: the current tidal wave of Hispanic immigrants into the US are most definitely *not* from amongst the best groups that the world has to offer in the way of potential citizens, and is therefore simply inexcusably foolish, wasteful, degenerative, and painfully dysgenic as a national policy.
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Oh, and as far as the implications of IQ scores are concerned, you might want to check out The Bell Curve as a start.
You might find the book very illuminating and, if so, you then might want to continue on past Murray and Hernstein and pass into the overlapping research territories of Jensen, Gottfredson, and Rushton.
Trust me, if you have not yet had the pleasure of reading such distinguished authors, you have a real eye-opening experience ahead of you.
All I know is what I have seen over the years throughout the continental US. Latins,Hispanics,or whatever you call them are,as a group,orders of magnitude more productive,resourceful,and functional than toads wherever I have been in the US.I just wish that for every illegal latin we could ship a toad into Latin America-with no return stamped on their forehead !! Sign me Ronny Nonny
The 'thanks blacks' billboards are a wonderful idea.I would gladly chip in for that! My god have you ever seen how filthy all toad 'hoods are? Let me guess...They would have you believe white people are somehow to blame.What a mess.Shoulda picked are own cotton.I wonder what race relations are like in Canada,where toads can't blame slavery from 150 years ago for their present dysfunction.Sign me Ronny Nonny
Anonymous said...
If certain groups don't want to go to a museum, that's their problem. It's available for anyone. Same with libraries. You can bring a horse to water, but...
They go to libraries .... to surf porn and WSHH.
Anonymous said...
I should add they (Hispanics) are relentlessly bullied in urban schools where blacks are the majority. It's a bit scary actually. Of course, there are no whites.
Chicago by chance?
10mm AUTO said...
Small government that deals primary with foreign governments, flat tariffs that keep manufacturing in country, little or no internal taxation, interest free loans from the Government for business start-up, Strong private property rights, business rights, Labor battalions, etc..... Its economics will be 19th Century Entrepreneurial Capitalism.
I looked into opening a small corner store in Chicago. I was on the city's website and just stopped when the required licenses totaled over $12,000 (in Chicago, you don't get a tobacco license, you have to get a license per cash register).
Lorraine
Survival Blog?
I don't want to live in Asia or with Asians and if I did, I would have moved there?
Reading is great. Research is great. Personal, hard earned experience is the best and it has taught me that although Asians are smart, they are concerned only about their culture.
I don't agree with making the US a colony of Asia.
Oh, and most Asians in the US voted for Obama.
It is not IQ, it is values
White Mom in VA
Lorraine:
Rawles's blog is a little overwhelming for a beginner but you you can use it as a resource for a lot of other links.
Prepping on the Rawles scale is a full time commitment and actually can't be done alone; you need a core group of several families.
His novels, like Patriots, are actually giant information dumps on prepper techniques.
I found his profiles page interesting:
http://www.survivalblog.com/profiles.html
On a humorous note, here is the post that got me interested in the whole prepper subculture:
You might be a prepper if:
http://www.paratusfamiliablog.com/2012/02/you-might-be-prepper-if.html
In an odd sort of way the sweeping demographic and legal changes of the past fifty years or so here within the US have brought our society full circle back to our originally nomadic hominid roots.
It's a sort of doomsday scenario, but it does appear that civilization is collapsing in the Western world, at least in various cities. To Detroit must be added Stockholm. Meanwhile, imperial governments march armies into central Asia. And wonder why preppers are stockpiling ammo and MREs.
One wonders what future historians will make of all this.
To those that laud the high intelligence of certain groups, it's not that they are not intelligent, it's what they do with that intelligence. If this intelligence is applied to improving knowledge and technology, great. If it is applied to remaking society to their liking/advantage or getting us to defend their homeland, not so great.
The good news is that they're no doubt selling it to civilized individuals and institutions. The art will continue to be protected and appreciated. And Detroit will continue its devolution into an unthinkable third-world wasteland.
Anything, like a European art museum, that allows Detroit to maintain appearances of being part of the civilized world, is counterproductive at this point. The city is already lost, until and unless something drastic happens down the road, and then it will be New Detroit we're talking about.
Re: This ongoing exchange about Latinos---
This blog is useful because it focuses whites (and others) on the fact that blacks are uniquely incapable of participating in advanced civilization. Blacks never invented or really mastered written language, philosophy, architecture, mathematics, law and order the nuclear family, or any of the other basic core meta-inventions of advanced white/asian/etc civilization. Their IQ is substantially lower than any other group. They are primitive.
Do white people have every right to live in culturally white areas, with no Latino influence? Yes, of course. But, as a group, Latinos are clearly able to hold together families, plan for the future, and do at least the basics demanded by contemporary advanced civilization. Blacks, as a group, aren't remotely capable of this, and so are a unique challenge.
Probably not nearly like any US Groidville ghetto project in any and all US cities.Niggzs are the problem,ladies and gentlemen-I think we all can agree on that.Solving that problem will free-up incredible amounts of time and resources! I really doubt any of us can really imagine how much.We must make sure not to squander this overdue windfall.
Firstly, it's not exactly that western civilization is collapsing -- more like it's starting to become a moving target.
Whites and other successful minority groups move to an area, establish civilization, prosper, and then move when parasitic and comparatively barbarous groups encroach upon their territory.
Lather, rinse, repeat.
And as far as this is concerned:
"The good news is that they're no doubt selling it to civilized individuals and institutions. The art will continue to be protected and appreciated. And Detroit will continue its devolution into an unthinkable third-world wasteland."
None of the above in is question; the problem is that many of people in the areas surrounding Detroit do *not* want what amounts to a State legacy to be sold off to some dude in Dubai -- particularly for the purpose of paying down the debt that the locals in Detroit have amassed through their own degeneracy.
I personally rather enjoy going to the DIA, have been an actively supporting member of such for decades now, and find the very idea that I must now sacrifice my own participation in this culturally significant institution in the name of allowing the locals in Detroit to pop out a few more unsupportable children to be a profoundly repugnant idea.
I mean, if Detroit had been hit by an asteroid strike and desperately needed funds to rebuild what was an otherwise responsible and thriving community, well, I could get on board with the idea; my State loyalties to my fellow citizens would trump my regrets at losing access to a masterpiece of cultural attainment.
But to lose such access on behalf of a population that spends over $17,000 of Federal and State money per public school student and yet nevertheless produces an adult population that is roughly 50% illiterate?
This? This is what I am supposed to sacrifice a large chunk of my own cultural heritage for?
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As I said, the only hope at this point is that either: 1. The richer surrounding communities will tie up any putative bankruptcy auction with enough legal red tape that any such fire sale would be put off indefinitely, or 2. that some sort of debt swap between the State and Detroit could be arranged over physical possession of the artwork collection.
DIA is still supposed to have a pretty good collection. I hope it is protected one way or another.
I can understand why the ticket sellers try to get attendees to also buy a ticket to the AAH museum. The one is LA is pretty much empty except for school classes being force-marched through on outings. Even the people it is dedicated to have little interest in visiting it. Hilariously it is located right next to the Museum of Science and Industry.
Sorry bro, I will follow. You are destined to support us in every way and like it. I can get a big fur coat, couple of fine ladies to keep me warm, and I am right behind ya.
Thank you!
White Mom in VA
Lakeesha gots 3 keeds with Tyrone and 5 keeds with DeShawn. She also got 2 mo but dont know the dad. If she gets $250/month EBT per chile and $500 a month of WIC, how much she be gettin each month?
If Tyrone be gettin a cut of 30% of Lakeesha's green, how much bling could he buy?
If Lakeesha be gettin a weave and a nail job for a total cost of $200, how much she have leftova after payin Tyrone?
Who be sayin we not be gettin our math on?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2330970/Houston-police-shut-Kanye-Wests-screening-racially-charged-music-video-New-Slaves.html
That is pretty much what I am saying.The problems with Muslims,Asians,Hispanics,etc. pales in comparison to the ubiquitous dysfunction that is the Nig-Nog.It is all around us,everywhere,yet most have become so used to it we look right past it,make excuses,etc.Everything GIVEN to them is destroyed,misused,etc. Sign me Ronny Nonny
I have to nitpick Lorraine just a bit:
I want to comment on IQ again. It really does not measure creativity or innovation. It measures conformity.
No it does not, and nobody who's so much as looked at IQ tests such as Raven's Progressive Matrices could seriously believe such a thing. It measures pattern recognition and speed of thinking, which is why it correlates with nerve conduction speed. In other words, IQ is closely related to physical phenomena we can measure with high accuracy.
School grades measure conformity, which is why they are so often wildly at odds with both IQ and scores on achievement tests such as the SAT. Teachers and school administrators who give low grades to high achievers or vice versa should be subject to corrective action.
Jail birds tend to have low IQs because they are always getting caught...
No, they are always getting caught because they can't foresee the consequences of their actions... because they can't think worth a damn.
The idea of a whites only nation in the Northwest sounds good but, at the same time, there are many areas that are solidly white and should never be abandoned or surrendered to the groids etc.
IF the USA should break up ala the Soviet Union, I would hope that many white areas would quickly form a union dedicated to the same ideals as those expressed by those who support a Northwest nation.
If such should ever come to pass, these areas should become militant and begin a campaign of driving out the groids and others and reconquering territory. The goal should be NOT to retreat into a corner but to consolidate power and drive the groids and other destructive forces into a corner.
Drive them out one county at a time and keep it up until vast areas are reclaimed and defend those expanding borders with ferocity.
All the money currently wasted on groids and groid support programs could be efficiently redirected to said purpose and fully fund the effort. Once the support funds for groids were no longer forthcoming, this would quickly cause massive collapses in the groid population which would further aid the cause. Abandon the groids to their fate and defend the borders with the aforementioned ferocity and give them no place (inhabited by whites) for them to run to and feed off of.
With apologies to Floridians, maybe we could eventually drive them all to South Florida and build a huge wall across the Peninsula ala the Great Wall of China and seal them off. It would quickly become Haiti of the North but at least white areas would be free of them.
They don't need a new Museum, the museum and the works of Africans are all around them.
Wonderful idea! As a bonus,none of them can swim! This is a simple,effective solution that unfortunately is unlikely to happen. How about one of the many worthless atolls and islands that are US territories ? We have never found a use for these territories besides atomic bomb tests on a few of them.Great idea! I am afraid that short of a 'drastic' approach such as this it is going to get steadily worse.I am Ronny Nonny
The memory of slavery gnaws at the Negro mind like a cancer. The great Negro slave revolt of San Domingo stares at them reproachfully from the past. Only White blood will blot out the humiliation. The stage is being set. Weapons and ammunition have been acquired by Homeland Security and placed in armories throughout the land. The most significant cities of the US have been occupied and secured by the Negroes and their allies. The genocide of Whites is poised for the home thrust.
We have the option to fight or commit suicide, that is fall without resistance. Oddly our will and intelligence seem to be paralyzed. To the MSM and most of those posting that I’ve read our position seems fatal. I can’t see why.
The Negroes have placed themselves in a weak defensive position. Consider medieval times when people placed themselves in forts or castles. The forts had to be strong enough to resist a determined siege. If the walls were wooden they were burned; if stone they were battered down. The besieged met their fate.
In their cities the Negroes are dependent on water, gas, electricity and food. All four come from outside the city and are beyond Negro control. Prevent food from entering and that old fashioned WMD starvation comes into play. You can’t defeat it. Cut off water and the WMD dehydration takes effect; fatal without fail. Gas and electricity are essentials in both summer and winter. Buildings are constructed to build up and intensify heat without air conditioning; you freeze stiff without heat.
Offensively we are much stronger than we need to be; it only requires will. We don’t need jet planes, tanks or artillery. We need the will to use the natural weapons that we have to either bring the Negroes to reason or if they wish to pursue their San Domingo dream, so be it.
The odds are on our side. They are concentrated; we are dispersed. We just have to watch our backs from the Liberal Whites.
Regarding Mexicans and the like: There are some who are pretty White, but the great bulk of them are dumb and primitive. Like somebody wrote, using Blacks as your yardstick is a piss-poor idea. Sure, Mexicans have a murder rate only half that of Blacks, which means that it's five times the White murder rate. Is that really a bargain?
I have taught Mexicans in a Catholic school, and many of them are fine kids, but don't let yourself be fooled by narrow personal experience. We all know a few decent Blacks too. Look at What Mexicans have done with the working class neighborhoods and schools they've taken over. Not a future any White should want.
BTW, the dominance of Jewish classical musicians was preceded by the dominance of Jewish music critics. Many Europeans felt that Jewish pianists and fiddlers were too emotional, melodramatic even, but tastes are changed.
I praise the lord for Detroit and some of the modern musical artists the city has produced.Derrick May and the rest of Underground Resistance and all who have followed in their footsteps,thankyou from a UK Techno head.
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