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| An average ACT score of 16.5 means Urban Prep will have plenty of future Tech Startups |
For the second year in a row, the entire graduating class -- 104 students -- at Urban Prep Charter School's Englewood campus has been accepted into a four-year college or university.
Urban Prep Academy is the nation's first all boys public charter high school. It is comprised entirely of African American students.
The students who recently received their college admittance letters were presented with the new stripped ties Wednesday.
"I received a couple of scholarships...Now it just feels amazing. It is all around amazing," said Matthew Williams, student.
Mason Fuller has received a full athletic scholarship to Northern Illinois University.
"I want to major in engineering, mechanical engineering in college, and then if possible go in the NFL," said Mason.
Eighteen-year-old Alfonso Henderson was accepted by 21 universities. He will receive $719,000 in scholarships. Alfonso wants to be a lawyer and is considering Harvard, Yale and Wheaton College.
"I have been praying each and every day and just asking God to show me the way," said Alfonso.
"It's so amazing what he's been doing," said Nathaniel Jones, father.Urban Prep is like a Black Hogwarts, but instead of witches and wizards you have Black kids from underprivileged backgrounds who get sorted (sadly not by a talking sorting hat) into "Prides" where they work together as smaller units.
Tim King, founder Of Urban Prep Academy, says students, parents and teachers all come together to ensure the success of the young men.
Small class, extra tutoring (think college athlete levels) and speeches from such luminaries as Spike Lee, Gary Sheffield and Henry Louis Gates are a hallmark of the non-profit institution (Newark anyone?).
It should be noted that the average ACT score of the Black students at Urban Prep is 16.5, hardly an overall score that screams "college prepared":
Robert Schaeffer, the public education director of the National Center for Fair and Open Testing, a Cambridge, Mass.-based testing watchdog group known as FairTest, said the “stagnant” ACT scores reflect a failure of the promise of the federal No Child Left Behind Act to boost achievement and improve college readiness.
“Politicians can make all the claims they want that it is raising achievement, but even when there are improvements in state test scores, they don’t show up in college-admissions test data, or on [the National Assessment of Educational Progress],” he said. “So where is the beef?”Strangely, the average ACT for Black students at Urban Prep is below the average Black score nationwide:
Mr. Schaeffer also noted that a FairTest analysis of ACT score changes between 2008 and 2009 shows little narrowing in the gaps between racial and ethnic minority students and their white peers. The ACT scores show only 4 percent of black students and 10 percent of Hispanic students meeting college-readiness benchmarks in all four subject areas in 2009, compared with 28 percent of white students and 36 percent of Asian students.
Participation in the ACT has been rapidly increasing among African American and Hispanic graduates over the past five years, far outpacing overall growth. Since 2003, the number of African American test-takers has increased by 18 percentage points, while the number of Hispanic test-takers has increased by 23 percentage points. The overall number of ACT-tested graduates has increased by 11 percentage points during this same span.
Asian American students again earned the highest average composite score at 22.6, followed by Caucasian students at 22.1, American Indian/Alaska Native students at 18.9, Hispanic students at 18.7 and African American students at 17.0.How are these kids going to be ready for college when they have basically had their hands held during high school?
What is the culprit behind this racial gap that even the vaunted Urban Prep cannot undue? Poverty maybe? Racial Segregation? Can't be, because the students from Urban Prep all come from poverty-stricken families and at least - on paper - are accepted to college. The sons and daughters of the artificially created (thanks affirmative action) Black middle-class score just as poorly on standardized tests when they move to Whitopia's.
Charter Schools even have horrible scores for Black students that still best Urban Prep.
The United States already spends an ungodly amount of money on education (with white and Asian students providing an amazing return on investment) but it is Black kids in every school system in the country that continue to weigh down state averages on aptitude tests.
With Black students heavily populated in the southern United States, its no wonder that Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia, Arkansas and Louisiana appear near the bottom of overall US educational statistics. Weighted down by low Black scores, these states stand no chance against lily-white states from the Northeast.
We already know that in Black Run America (BRA) the goal of the education system is to provide Black people with the best opportunity for success at the expense of all other students. The only gap that matters in closing is the Black-white gap in achievement.
Waiting for "Superman" is the goal of all teachers, all schools and every educational institution in America. Meanwhile in China, the best and brightest are challenged daily knowing that the tomorrow belongs to them while Americans piddle away their nation with dreams of closing an impenetrable gap that nature never intended nurture to seal.
But hey, congrats to Urban Prep. Its success give Teach for America and Crusading White Pedagogues everywhere cause for celebration and hope. Meanwhile, school districts across the nation consider closing science labs in a bid to stop the racial gap from growing.
In a related story - to NASA's search for a Black scientist and Black History Month Hero August Gorman - a writer at The Huffington Post bemoans the lack of Black startup companies:
For the past two years I've been spreading the message that people of color are missing out on the technology startup revolution. In an era where companies can be founded and within a few years can surpass the market-caps of companies that have been in existence for decades, and companies that are created in a weekend can go on to raise millions in funding and create jobs and opportunities for success for others, we are notably absent. It's a topic that almost no one wants to touch.
Technology conferences brush over the concept by focusing their "lack of diversity" panels on low numbers of women leading startups rather than tackle the almost complete absence of African Americans and Hispanics as founders in the space. Or they highlight minority celebrities that have taken an interest in the space to make a passive attempt to show, "Look, they are here. Our education system does not promote science and mathematicsin general and promotes them even less in minority and urban areas: if children have parents who promote the importance of these subjects at home they are truly fortunate because the focus has all but disappeared in many public schools. When science is taught from rolling carts and "discovery math" concepts are introduced instead of real problem-solving, those children are already at a disadvantage.
We have a value proposition problem: I wrote a blog post about this topic over a year ago. Minority children today are led to believe that it is easier to be an entertainer or a pro athlete than it is be a startup entrepreneur.Look, white and Asian students do fine in science and math. Black students don't. Creativity, an entrepreneurial spirit and innovation aren't taught, but reflect an individuals intelligence, ability, drive and determination. Kind of a "get rich or die trying" spirit that Black people sometimes showcase in a criminal sense.
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| The Sorting Hat from Harry Potter couldn't find a Black scientist either |
I'd simply say this: America needs to look more like America. Looking at patterns of residential living, most of America already does with third world enclaves spread throughout that most people - who can - assiduously avoid.
So congrats to Urban Prep. I'm drinking a glass of white wine and smoking a cigar in your honor. Though your average ACT scores indicate your woefully unprepared for college (that test is culturally bias anyways) I'm sure you'll do just fine outside your controlled, Black Hogwarts environment.
You at least give the Mainstream Media something to gloat about for a few days.
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So congrats to Urban Prep. I'm drinking a glass of white wine and smoking a cigar in your honor. Though your average ACT scores indicate your woefully unprepared for college (that test is culturally bias anyways) I'm sure you'll do just fine outside your controlled, Black Hogwarts environment.
You know, if you were black, you'd be considered a purveyor of the 'crabs in the barrel' mentality, an Uncle Ruckus who looks for failure in his own people. A Black person does something good, you just have to hate on it, you have to pick it to pieces because there is nothing else better for you to do.
But since you're white, I can call you something better: a racist.
Since when are blacks--affirmative action or not--graduating a bad thing? At least they are not 'slinging guns' and robbing people, right?
What the hell is going on here? I am honestly perplexed...
Here's the reality: most students are unprepared for college, and this is all races. Have you seen today's average freshman essay?
It's abysmal, and I went to a majority white university my freshman year. Personally, I always found it amusing--and I could because I was born with the talent to write. My classmates were not just from shitty Nevada but other states as well, California, Idaho, Iowa, Oregon, etc.
The sad thing was that these students were the 'honor students' in their respective high schools!
So, what I am saying is, 'suck' has never discriminated on the basis of race. We all know this. What I have noticed, though, is that foreign students, from India, Asia, Africa, tend to 'seem' more studious than American students. I just think rigor is enforced in these areas, whereas here, it is not.
And, by the way, why is the de facto measurement of 'intellect' always mathematics? I knew a Latino girl who was excellent at math (she was seeking an engineering degree) but her papers were terrible (she was in my class)!
Some people have strengths and weaknesses. Give me a math exam, I'll manage to fuck it up in some way. But give me a paper to write, a point to argue, something along the lines of thinking/writing, etc., I'll be an A++ student.
Diversity in talent is a beautiful thing, and when we try to force people to be good at something they aren't, degrees start to be worth less. If everyone was a math geek, our human species would die out in a generation since everyone would be a corny, sexless nerd.
Comedian Jim Gaffigan joked: 'It ain't brain surgery. What do brain surgeons say? "It ain't...like we're trying to talk to women."'
Exactly.
I should note that these so-called brainiac Asians have a great mentality when it comes to education.
In America, we believe that people are given gifts and excel in certain things and when the 'fail' in a certain area, it is due to the fact they just aren't 'good' at it. The person then moves to something else.
But I remember a foreign exchange student from high school who hailed from Taiwan and he said that no one believes in 'innate' intelligence and ability; they believe in hard work, that people stress, stress, stress school 6 days a week and hours of studying a day and that, with this, students will do well.
This is what is lacking in this country. We give up too easily. I think that if I wasn't so lazy when it comes to math, not giving up when it seems 'hard', I wouldn't be a C math student...
Desiree, writing and math ability aren't mutually exclusive FYI.
You should be well aware there are many people talented in both humanities and maths.
Psychometric studies have shown people good in one area tend to be good across the board.
Many of the best writers have scientific and mathematical backgrounds.
A writing deficiency is,in my opinion, much more redeemable than a maths one.
This is because math is much more objective and you can't fake your way through a math class like you can with an essay.
So writing papers has a lower IQ threshold for getting a good grade than maths,physics,etc.
One of the reasons,Desiree,that the average U.S. student is unprepared for college level work upon graduating high school is...
(insert drum roll here... )
The dumbing down of the high school curriculum. Which has been largely done to try to get the graduation numbers of blacks to a level that can be accepted by the powers that be.
Not in every case,I grant,and it certainly isn't the only reason. Television,electronic games,and a host of other reasons are also there. But it started with forced integration of school districts,and the realization that the average black student would never,ever be able to score on a level comparable to the average white or asian student.
And as far as talking/writing skills go,vs. math/engineering skills,I have a deal for you.
The next time your local power plant goes offline due to a malfunction of a turbine or a valve or something along those lines,drive out there,stand in the parking lot,and talk at the turbine or the valve,or whatever else is broken,and see if you can convince it to fix itself.
Or go to your local ore body ( if you're from Nevada,you have a bunch ) and talk at the copper ore. See if you can convince it to lift itself out of the ground,separate itself from the gangue,transport itself to a smelting operation,and transform itself into useful things like the wire that carries the electricity that powers stuff like the water pumps that supply your shower.
Let me know how well it works!
Ex Gladio Libertas
No Desiree, you are not good at writing, arguing a point, or thinking. You are worse at those things than you are at maths. But because those things are more susceptible to biased marking, you can fool yourself more easily.
Looks like Diseree has decided to get up early and be the first to take a good early morning dump on each post. After the initial spew, she can just avoid the posts and not have to read or respond to all of the truth that come afterwards. We shall get the true negro point of view first and it is all uphill from there.
Brilliant! Thanks Diseree.
Working toward an engineering degree is also very lonely and quiet. The killing of trees practicing multivariable calculus problems are like mental gymnastics ... and it's hard. Humans are not designed to sit still anyway. I do hope that some of these black fellas graduate from college and pay income taxes one day, but I expect they'll all probably wind up dead in a crack house or locked up in the ol' concrete Hilton.
Ms. Desiree, writing is the most subjective of the disciplines. You can either be a grammar-challenged lunatic, like Milton, or a semi-colon and comma splice nutbag, like Melville. You can revel in the fluidity of the English language's descriptive properties, like I do, or you can be an arbitrary prescriptivist slave, like race pimps. A^2 + B^2 = C^2 is niether fluid nor prescriptive -- it describes the angle of my middle finger with the plane of the Earth when I see negro people driving around with spinner rims.
The Engineer
The truth about white privilege:
http://www.woodpilereport.com/html/index-201.htm
"A Black person does something good, you just have to hate on it, you have to pick it to pieces because there is nothing else better for you to do."
You are only celebrating because most black males in America flunk out, rop out, go to prison. White people don't celebrate 104 white students getting acceptance to college. A college degree used to be a thing of value. Now it is not because anyone can get in and pass with lots of assistance and lowered standards. We all know that Urban Prep is only the dumbed down negro version of a prep school. The standards are lower and more manageable for blacks. So what!
"Admission to college" means nothing. I passed my tests and was accepted to at least 5 colleges before graduation. No big deal! It is something that whites just "do".
You are congratulating a group ob black boys for something that whites do with very little effort because you know blacks are not historically capable of such a feat. Now it is finally special because blacks have done it? Big whoop. White donors and white taxpayers have opened their wallets once again and adopted these black boys (like the Blind Side) and tutored and nurtured them (in place of their black mamas and daddies) and are the ones who deserves the credit.
The organization's largest source of funding is the Illinois State Board of Education, which funds all charter schools. In 2008, Urban Prep received an anonymous donation of $1,000,000, most likely from a white man. Oh yeah, and Oprah donated, of course.
We will hear nothing more of most of these boys once they drop out or flunk out of college. Or, a maybe even more DWLs will take them on as a charity case and make sure they are successful in order to "prove" to their white friends that they are not racists.
A few might make it with lots of help, but it is a serious uphill climb and very unsustainable. Let's stop all the happy talk and focus on the majority of problem black males who are assaulting their teachers, commiting rape and murder, and committing acts of terrorism against American citizens?? Why all the happy talk about 104 black students? Everyone is not college material, and this is especially true for black males.
Just to be fair SBPDL, I'd speculate that the reason for the sub black national average ACT score at Urban Prep would be the inclusiveness of the data set. Since all 104 kids were admitted to college, that means that all 104 took the ACT. That's no surprise given the mission statement of the school. Nationally however, since half of black males don't even graduate from college, you have benign selection. Let's say that of all the black youth only 5% are college prospects. Out of that 5%, in a non prep school environment let's say only 20% would follow through to take the test, but in a prep school environment let's say that number is 80% or higher (I'm speculating on these numbers but they sound logical). I think that sounds like a reasonable explanation for urban prep's variance from the national black average for ACT scores.
I studied finance at a top 25 undergrad program. I'll be honest, I had only one black in my accounting or finance classes. (Ex marine GI bill very disciplined very determined guy) However, I did see one black guy on graduation day who had special ribbons for getting a 4.0. I never saw that guy in any classes, student functions, or parties so I guess he spent all 4 years locked in the library.
It all comes down to "critical thinking"...writers, just have to memorize rules, and in some aspects most math follows rules.
However, the entrepenuer, the scientist, rely on "their" basic education (the rules math and writing skills) to challenge the unknown, to search for a new medicine, to build new equipment to do things that haven't been done before.
THAT is the true value of an education...to CRITICAL APPLY the rules and move the boundaries forward for yourself, your family, community, company, country...etc.
To make a dollar, to produce something of value for another human's need or want.
Most blacks can NOT critically think, that is why we see Asians and Whites in the roles where "critical thinking" is required.
That is the underlying facts on where or not a person has been "educated"...can the person, understand what they have read, apply the rules of math, put these tools to work and CHALLENGE themselves and go out and CREATE something of worth.
Blacks can not critically think that will make social change for their advancement...they only mimic continue to compete by mimicing what was designed by whites (such as every sport in the USA...developed by whites with rules)...just as the earliest blacks began mimicing farming, and church going from the white farmers they used to work for.
Blacks if REALLY left on their own (no hand outs, white rules...etc) ...they would revert back to their heathen ways...roaming the earth looking for roots to eat in the Sahara desert...and eventually revert back to killing and stealing and selling things to whites...ohhh similar to balcks selling other balcks into slavery...that is it...it comes down to blacks really have NO VALUES other than whatthey mimic...their EARLIEST values...roaming as bug and root eaters, and stealing from other bug and root eaters...is about it...
Blacks mimic whites until they realize they don't want to be held to white standards of values.
Blacks are doomed by their own folly and inbred natural incapability to critically think for themselves or for a larger cause.
Blacks are just naturally hand to mouth eat sleep and excreers, with occasional short term feel good impulsive behavior (stealing, fucking and getting intoxicated)...
So we can see until the black person rejects his inner most natural urgers...the natural inclination of a black...
no critical thinking needed for the raw and basic animal behaviors.
Actin' white...hunnert puh-cent.
I would love to compare each of these students against the average and LOW scores at each school where he will be going. THAT is where the REAL story is: how far was the bar lowered to include these students?
I see 104 male Desirees. Young Africans who have been coddled and fawned over and told they beez important and talented an' shit, when they are mostly dull normal. Desiree, whose basic writing is "ok" (the non-creative written discussion of posting online is NOT a talent, Desiree) and better than most writing I see online, but it's neither exceptional and only "better than average" because she's being compared in a field where the bar is in a trench, and "atrocious" is the standard. Desiree, however has been coached, brainwashed into believing that "okay" and "average" performance is indeed exceptional, and she believes herself to be far better than she is. That unwarranted black self esteem manifesting 105 times, in these white-acting Chicago Preppies and in Miss Oreo America, or Miss Inside-Out Oreo Of America, whichever one she is pretending to be today.
Set these boys loose after dark in Detroit or DC in their "acting white" clothes from skoo' and see if they live til morning.
Can you imagine the TNB that will ensue at this graduation?
Dude, what's the purpose of you writing this essay? Ha Rah! Whites and Asians on top again. So what, 16 is not a good score, but a start. I'm a black girl in Cps school system. I know what it's like out here. These kids have no faith what's so ever, They are taught to fail. I don't blame them. Their families devalue education. What do you think happens to the kids, without guidance, they go without proper knowledge to exceed. I'm tired of satirical morons like you, maybe you should take into consideration black people have always had the fucked end if the stick. Many darker people do. And The Black Hogwarts? What are you, an 11th grader. Here's some pointers, take your cynicism out of your Ass next time. Instead, Step Your Fat Ass Away from the computer and do something about the shit you don't like about black people. Since you love to harp on them so much I suppose.
In most colleges, blacks are treated to a "minority" or "black orientation" which is different from what white students get. Blacks are actually told which easy classes to take in their freshman year, are told about all of the minority handouts available on campus, shown the "African American Studies" routine, given the number for the black student union, and then told which majors are the easiest. I know this from personal experience, by the way.
Huge groups of blacks at my college majored in "Internationa Finance", "Human Resources Management" and "Insurance", whatever that means. These were deemed the easiest of all majors and were full of blacks and other minorities.
"Young Africans who have been coddled and fawned over and told they beez important and talented an' shit..."
Yes, in America, it takes a village (of white taxpayers and DWLs) to raise a (black) child.
And yes, Lawrence Auster had a very good post about black intelligence and their reliance on mimicry of whites.
http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/001132.html
and Joseph Kay's "Empty Black Suit"
http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/011380.html
"...and do something about the shit you don't like about black people. "
To Cps girl:
Let's start with
1. mandatory birth control shots after BabyMama receives the first welfare payment following the birth of her first unwanted black baby or optional $1,000 for permanent sterilization.
Then 2. voluntary, paid sterilization for black males over the age of 18.
Then 3. a complete rollback of welfare and public assistance of all kinds, including affirmative action, AFDC, WIC, and Medicare.
Then 4. a court order for all black male baby daddies to pay adequate child support for each unwanted black offspring or go to jail.
5. Profiling in black crime ridden neighborhoods and full regular police sweeps in all black ghettos.
6. Black women who intentionally neglect or abuse their offspring by not feeding, housing and clothing and providing basic needs for them shall be permanently sterilized and incarcerated and lose all parental rights.
How is that for a start? Are you with me?
"So congrats to Urban Prep. I'm drinking a glass of white wine and smoking a cigar in your honor. Though your average ACT scores indicate your woefully unprepared for college (that test is culturally bias anyways) I'm sure you'll do just fine outside your controlled, Black Hogwarts environment."
SBPDL needs to put a sock in it. Your sarcasm is the least bit amusing and very contradictory. Why congratulate when you obvious don't care and can't wait for them to fail like a kid on Christmas Eve waiting for Santa to drop off his or her presents?
I'm sick of the hypocrisy that a majority of you folks show on this blog. Ridiculing blacks for dropping out of school and so forth is a nature of habbit for you people, but "unfortunately" it isn't enough. Then when you see blacks actually setting themselves up to at least try and have a bright future, you compare the averages of their standaridized tests and so forth to degrade and claim that whatever future they have is bleak.
Let's face it. You people are bitter pessimistics that can only find good in your own people. You never look for good in other people outside your race. I now know why it's so hard for you people to accept the good things in life, it's because you've been focusing on the bad things in life so much that you never had the opportunity to enjoy it.
But I'm not sorry for you people. You don't deserve my pitty. Go ahead and live your life of hate, we'll see who gets farther in life.
You Get What You Get
"What do you think happens to the kids, without guidance, they go without proper knowledge to exceed."
Well......where to begin! ,When black parents are unable to parent black children, and as a result they are unable to exist in our civil society, they will most likely go to prison or end up dead on the streets.
Why are you letting black parents off the hook so easily? Are you, like most blacks and liberal, finally admitting that blacks are not capable of responsibly parenting a child into adulthood?
Please read the archives on this site, you will better understand how moronic your statements are. You are obviously not very educated about black people and their uniqueness.
Dear Sista-Souljah-Cps-Girl and Desiracist Kar-ian (the dash don't be silent, foo'):
Please never breed.
Cps girl, you said: "Their families devalue education." Right. Correct. BLACK CULTURE IS THE PROBLEM. IT IS THE DECAY THAT IS DESTROYING CIVILIZATION.
"Their families devalue education."
So do you think that it is white people's job to teach black people to value education? To say that black cultural values are actually hurting blacks? Who is going to stand and make this profound statement, are you willing??? Isn't it the black parent's job to instill values in a black child? Or is it the YT gubment daddy's job?
How much longer shall it take for blacks to finally figure this out, 200 years or so? How much more of other people's money shall we spend on programs designed to instill cultural values and personal responsibility into the black population?
All rhetorical questions, of course.
"...a nature of habbit"
Speaking of sarcasm, did you mean to say the nature of the Hobbit? Or the nature of the Rabbit?
Habbit....is that a costume for Hobbit nuns?
I somewhat agree with Desiree. It's all about small victories. At least as far as we know these guys aren't out robbing and raping at the present time. That's just about all YT can hope for.
Of course I am disturbed that a marginal student can get 700 thousand dollars worth of scholarships. How about spreading some of that around to some kids in Appalachia that are much poorer and have none of the media blowholes championing them.
BUBO
You Get What You Get:
Looking for "good" in a black person or (more importantly) in the black community is like looking for a seared Porterhouse in a septic tank. Yes, it might happen, but it ain't fuckin' likely, and even if you find it, you sure as hell don't want to take it home.
The only way one can gain entry into a university with an ACT score of 16 is if the standards are lowered. We have lowered standards in all facets of society in order to create the illusion of "diversity" and allow entry for blacks. Blacks cannot compete in real life. Blacks call this being "underserved" and "overlooked". Catchy terms for the inability to compete. Once blacks realize that white standards are high and impossible for blacks to achieve, they drop out and scream "racism!" and "bias!"
Black people do not add value to what whites have created, only to DWL liberals who compete with each other for the "Top Liberal of the Year Award" while using blacks as their puppets. Blacks always fall into this trap, but any realized success unsustainable in the long run.
P.S. I just got a dreadful image of Tyler Perry's remake of LOTR. I vomited a little in my mouth.
You Get What You Get,
I disagree. Every day in this country a news story is published of a Black person doing something extraordinary -- this story of 104 students doesn't smell of sanctimony to you?
Have you paid attention to the Atlanta Public School fiasco? Because of incredible gains made in a test, a number of alarm bells went off and the entire school system was investigated and is now on probation for grade inflation.
People know what Black people score (on average)and the test gains were just to great.
I'm very optimistic about the future of this nation. Patterns of residential living show that whites (DWLs or normal white people) live among only whites.
They flee diversity without a moments hesitation.
Integration has been a disaster. A complete, 100 percent disaster. The Black community has collapsed because (a majority of Black people) believe white people will always pick up the pieces of their broken families and neighborhoods.
A reliance on the government (and handouts) has created a massive problem in this nation for whites and Black people alike - though Black people are disproportionately helped - and no amount of Tea Partying will change this fact.
Having the day off, I'm watching the union protests in Wisconsin. Does no one else realize that this nation is one unfunded mandate at this point?
BRA is a Ponzi Scheme that is slowly crashing.
http://www.alternativeright.com/main/blogs/malinvestments/the-end-of-the-age-of-the-bailout/
...(snip) You Get What You Get (end snip)...
NAWWWW... now bro...you known the black creed is...
"You get what you steal, or have redistributed to you by a Marxist Liberal Democrat"...
"Have you paid attention to the Atlanta Public School fiasco? Because of incredible gains made in a test, a number of alarm bells went off and the entire school system was investigated and is now on probation for grade inflation."
What's amusing about you is that you base your "facts" on southern states like Alabama, Georgia, and Virginia, which of course are populated by blacks.
But may I ask why you haven't considered basing these so called "facts" on states like New York (#1 state w/ black population), Illinois (#6), or California (#5) which are either Northern or western states that have more black population than your southern states?
http://www.statemaster.com/graph/peo_tot_bla_pop-people-total-black-population
You do know that lots of blacks live in the northern areas ever since the black migration from the south to the north from 1910-1930? Oh wait, I know why. It's because these northern and western states have higher scores than these southern states among blacks, thus it would hurt your image if you showed the statisitics of these states.
"I'm very optimistic about the future of this nation."
Yeah, this sure sounds like it: "So congrats to Urban Prep. I'm drinking a glass of white wine and smoking a cigar in your honor. Though your average ACT scores indicate your woefully unprepared for college (that test is culturally bias anyways) I'm sure you'll do just fine outside your controlled, Black Hogwarts environment."
Or how about your theories of BRA and the evils the black man has caused for our nation and so forth. How can you say you're optimistic when you created a blog to deliberatel degrade a race you clearly despise?!
For once concede to the fact that you're wrong. You're not optimistic and neither are the people on this blog. Everyone is very hateful and bitter. It's a well known fact. Just take a look at the comments on here. Or look at your own articles. There're at least one or more examples of your "optimism" in there.
You Get What You Get
@ SBDL
This blog seems to like dropping context on any given issue (again and again). Before I address the other clowns in the comments section, I'll address the context-dropper-in-chief here:
"In a related story - to NASA's search for a Black scientist and Black History Month Hero August Gorman - a writer at The Huffington Post bemoans the lack of Black startup companies:"
Yawn.
Nigerian Startups
http://memeburn.com/2010/05/20-hot-nigerian-startups-to-watch/
Since you like dropping context, lets expand the context of your assertion.
Have you addressed the lack of Japanese or Singaporean startups? How many new Japanese companies are comparable to Google, Groupon, or Facebook? These countries are majority Asian (aka "high IQ") yet seem to lack said startup activity. How many European startups are created (in white countries?) in comparison to America? Surely theres a discrepancy there.
@ Anon
"Huge groups of blacks at my college majored in "Internationa Finance", "Human Resources Management" and "Insurance", whatever that means.?
You probably need to go back (and take remedial classes). And learn the meanings of those terms (as well as their proper spelling) as they are all important to the international economy.
"Blacks if REALLY left on their own (no hand outs, white rules...etc) ...they would revert back to their heathen ways...roaming the earth looking for roots to eat in the Sahara desert...and eventually revert back to killing and stealing and selling things to whites...ohhh similar to balcks selling other balcks into slavery...that is it...it comes down to blacks really have NO VALUES other than whatthey mimic...their EARLIEST values...roaming as bug and root eaters, and stealing from other bug and root eaters...is about it..."
LMAO. That was awful.
1. There were no "whites" to sell things to in the Sahara desert (lol!)
2. Few lived in the Sahara
3. Most Blacks lived elsewhere and were iron age farmers. Or lived in urban areas in pre-colonial times.
"1. mandatory birth control shots after BabyMama receives the first welfare payment following the birth of her first unwanted black baby or optional $1,000 for permanent sterilization.
Then 2. voluntary, paid sterilization for black males over the age of 18.
Then 3. a complete rollback of welfare and public assistance of all kinds, including affirmative action, AFDC, WIC, and Medicare.
Then 4. a court order for all black male baby daddies to pay adequate child support for each unwanted black offspring or go to jail.
5. Profiling in black crime ridden neighborhoods and full regular police sweeps in all black ghettos.
6. Black women who intentionally neglect or abuse their offspring by not feeding, housing and clothing and providing basic needs for them shall be permanently sterilized and incarcerated and lose all parental rights."
Ok then, lets do the same for equivalent white mothers in trailer parks.
"How much longer shall it take for blacks to finally figure this out, 200 years or so? How much more of other people's money shall we spend on programs designed to instill cultural values and personal responsibility into the black population?"
Remove the welfare state and folks that don't learn won't last long. Problem solved. The problem is, white people created (and maintain) the welfare state.
...(snip "Their families devalue education."
So do you think that it is white people's job to teach black people to value education? To say that black cultural values are actually hurting blacks? Who is going to stand and make this profound statement, are you willing??? Isn't it the black parent's job to instill values in a black child? Or is it the YT gubment daddy's job?
How much longer shall it take for blacks to finally figure this out, 200 years or so? How much more of other people's money shall we spend on programs designed to instill cultural values and personal responsibility into the black population?
All rhetorical questions, of course.
(end snip)
Face it...once schools were desegregated was when this all began the rush to blacks failing in America.
Used to be ...the all black school which was a HUGE role player in the black community...
Black school teachers and administration...had the POWER to tell the black heathens...to STOP acting a foo'.
The black administration had the black parent's attention when they told the parent...your child is heading to jail, or pregnancy...and that THEY cared to stop it!
(Blcaks really don't care if a white person's values are extended to a black kid...they will just think it is a conspiracy to get their kid to act white)
Black schools didn't have the imaginary made up game of "acting white" to address when teaching children. The competion was against another child who was black...not againstthe white or Asian children...
The black MALE school teasher was the father figure to the male black bastards.
The black FEMALE teacher was a role model to the breeding black teenagers...
The black school "HELD" the fragile and broken black community together to CONVINCE the few...that playing by a "black schools" rules could lead to successful blacks they could MAKE it to a BLACK college...and struggle and compete with other black students.
Blacks really never learned how to compete in the classroom against each other...they are doomed when it comes to competing against other races in a class room.
Now instead we have integrated schools...that have failed...integrated colleges that pass over good students to hand out a slot to a SOON to fail black student...and the black schools are collapsing...
Blacks are too damn stupid to see the truth.
On another note:
Its interesting, this tone of moral self-righteous on this blog, the moral indictment of blacks.
Yet, if the problem with blacks is biological, rather than moral, as the author and most of the readers will attest, why the tone of moral indignation? If its biological as you say, its not their fault hence making all the moral posturing and finger pointed pointless.
This should be a biological advocacy blog no? (aka final solution).
Just a thought.
"Let's face it. You people are bitter pessimistics"
Stop whining, crybaby. If this site causes you to shit your diapers, then stop visiting.
BTW Mr Vocabulary, did you make up that word "pessimistics"???
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Black people are moving back to the South. The 2010 census information shows this.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/feb/16/in-a-reversal-more-blacks-moving-back-to-south/
This Web site advocates a passing of THE MICHAEL OHER ACT. Search the archives for what that means.
The Blind Side showed that Black kids can succeed when they are removed from their Black families (remember, 72 percent of Black kids are born out-of-wedlock).
People who come here, link to here, and comment here have had real-world experiences with Black people.
The idealistic view of Black people propagated through Black History Month Heroes in film and television (increasingly commercials) is false.
If this weren't so, why do DWLs live far removed from Black people?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/walkingsf/sets/72157624812674967/detail/
Segregation is at the lowest levels now, but it is in those states you talked about that have the highest rates of Black clustering.
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/black-segregation-us-lowest-level-centur
Read "The Big Sort" to see where America is headed. Better yet, read "SBPDL: Year One" which will be available on February 22.
"Have you addressed the lack of Japanese or Singaporean startups?"
Based on the title of this blog, I'd guess not.
However, if this is of interest to you, you should research the number of Japanese and Singaporean and black startups, then post your results back here.
Enjoy.
"If its biological as you say, its not their fault hence making all the moral posturing and finger pointed pointless."
This will be true ONLY IF we should ever reach the day when we can all stop pretending to see the Emperor's New Clothes, and admit the truth about racial differences (which is highly unlikely).
However, as long as DWLs and blacks continue to shove their "all races are equal" narrative down our throats, then "Those Who Can See" must be unrelenting in their efforts to highlight the truth about blacks, and expose this massive charade for what it is.
Yet, if the problem with blacks is biological, rather than moral, as the author and most of the readers will attest, why the tone of moral indignation? If its biological as you say, its not their fault hence making all the moral posturing and finger pointed pointless.
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The problem is, whether the reality of black inferiority is biological, social, or moral (or ALL of these, as I maintain), that black people fail to realize and admit their inferiority. Instead, they demand unearned status, goods, opportunity, thus lowering the standard for all. When a black person holds a job for which she is not the most qualified candidate, she brings down productivity, efficiency, effectiveness and profitability, whether we're talking about corporate America, a service sector job, or teaching. When black people receive billions of dollars on the "freedom cards" to buy they foo', they are essentially stealing from everyone who pays taxes. When blacks irresponsibly choose to have litters of niglets, without any planning or care about the financial and personal responsibility of parenthood, they place a tremendous burden on society. These welfare babies are destined to continue the cycle of parasitism that has existed for generations and defines the African "culture" that has infested and is destroying America.
Pretending that black people are equal has lowered expectations and achievement of our educational system and our society across the board.
The idea of earning and achieving has been perverted into a sense of entitlement among blacks. Actually gaining an education, be it in high school or in "cowwij" is not the goal--it is not even considered. Black people do not want to gain knowledge. They are only interested in getting the piece of paper that they have been indoctrinated to believe entitles them to fabulous wealth and status.
Government agencies, schools, token levels of corporate management are all rife with college-degree-holding blacks who are not only not qualified for their jobs, but are both stupid and ignorant. They have been rubber-stamped through the system, granted degrees, given titles, and exist in positions where they fester and spread the decay of their ignorance, stupidity and laziness. It's heartbreaking. Blacks have made many college degrees worthless now. If you have any doubt about this, read Michelle Obama's Princeton thesis. It's embarrassing to us as a nation, and would be embarrassing to her, if she had the self-awareness of a virus.
Dear Shooting Blanks:
1. Who cares about Nigerian blacks and their startups????? We are talking American blacks, or am I on the wrong site again?
2. Who cares about white trailer park welfare women?????? I was asked to find the solutions for black dysfunction, which is disproportionate to their percentage of the total population. Think black, black, black from now on.
3. Yes, white people feel great pity for biologically limited and blacks who choose to remain enslaved while they could choose freedom. Being the morally responsible and superior race, white people worldwide have tried, in a failed experiment, to "uplift" the black race and we should be about finished by now.
I totally agree that blacks should be pitied for their natural deficiencies, however, I am very tired of paying for their existence, and paying for them to irresponsibly reproduce. I waited until I was married and could afford to feed a child before I actually gave birth to one. Seems simple to me, but for blacks it is rocket science. Giving blacks even more compassion does not help them practice personal responsibility. Nothing does, as we have found from our failed experiment.
Why don't you and Be Gettin Mines do something useful with your lives and help white people find a solution to our little black problem instead of harping on and on about your victimology?
Instead of posting here and wasting your time, why not use your own personal black money to give blacks small third-world business loans to start their own little enterprises in the "community"?
Are you helping little black children learn Algebra and keeping them busy after school so they don't end up loitering or committing crimes?
Do you publicly attach stigma to unsavory black behavior? Call 911 when you see blacks committing crimes such as drug dealing?
Are you rallying for the end of public assistance to poor lazy-yet-fertile blacks?
Are you calling for blacks to assimilate into the dominant culture? Do you recognize that we even have a dominant culture in place?
Are you preaching about personal responsibility, respect and manners to little black children in your neighborhood schools instead of telling them to wait for YT Superman to fix their problems?
Are you holding the black hucksters, pimps, and race hustlers accountable for telling lies and myths about actual black ability and covering up the black crime stats?
This is a site about things black people don't like. Please stay on subject. You are pulling things out of your ass again and will not persuade anyone here. You are not doing the footwork that you are asking of us, and we know it. We are experts on black people. We have had thousands of encounters with blacks, we all share the same stories, and we know all about the black characteristics of which you are in denial.
BTW, finger pointing can never be "pointless" as you say.
@ Anon
"This will be true ONLY IF we should ever reach the day when we can all stop pretending to see the Emperor's New Clothes, and admit the truth about racial differences (which is highly unlikely).
However, as long as DWLs and blacks continue to shove their "all races are equal" narrative down our throats, then "Those Who Can See" must be unrelenting in their efforts to highlight the truth about blacks, and expose this massive charade for what it i"
So your saying that in the face of all this allegedly overwhelming evidence to the contrary, those nefarious blacks snd DWL's still manage to dupe and fleece the public?
Looks like you evaded point of my statement.
My point is that its pointless to point the finger at blacks and then claim or imply that they have some sort of moral responsibility for their actions if they can't control it.
Thats what the author and commenters on this blog seem to do alot and its contradictory.
Now your placing the blame on blacks and DWL's because you and your ilk are too impotent to cause people to see the obvious truth?
If your so impotent, maybe its because your wrong.
@ Anon
"Based on the title of this blog, I'd guess not."
Well its deliberately misleading his audience. In a global context, the lack of black startups is'nt really a big deal and mostly explainable by cultural factors.
"People who come here, link to here, and comment here have had real-world experiences with Black people."
This.
I've encountered, observed, and interacted with thousands and thousands and thousands of people of all races/ethnicities. And in spite of being taught by my God-fearing parents that we're all created equal, real-life tells another story. The significant and distinct behavioral differences between races are evident and obvious (and even remarkably consistent across the globe).
The notion that "we're all alike" is so absurd that it boggles the mind. Even the most devout egalitarians are usually quick to (contradictorily) admit that "blacks are better athletes" or "blacks have more rhythm", while militantly refusing to acknowledge even the possibility of cognitive differences.
"So your saying that in the face of all this allegedly overwhelming evidence to the contrary, those nefarious blacks snd DWL's still manage to dupe and fleece the public?"
To a degree, yes. The internet is slowly but surely bringing their propaganda campaign to an end. Telling people they are "racist" for not falling in line is a powerful tool, but it's losing its potency.
"My point is that its pointless to point the finger at blacks and then claim or imply that they have some sort of moral responsibility for their actions if they can't control it."
The alternative is that I say nothing and allow blacks to dishonestly blame whitey for their colossal dysfunction. Perhaps if blacks were told honestly that they are more likely to be criminals, they'd try harder not to be.
"Nigerian start-ups."
Oh, is that what those emails are all about?
"If your so impotent, maybe its because your wrong."
LOL I'm not wrong. And quite frankly, there's nothing any human being could ever say that would change my mind.
Frankly, I'm perplexed why some of you waste your time trying.
"...those nefarious blacks snd DWL's still manage to dupe and fleece the public?"
Absolutley, and here is the reason. The reasons are mostly political and powered by greed. Everyone involved knows the truth about this, but everyone is too cowardly to say it out loud.
In order for the Democrats and all liberals, for that matter, to stay in control of the government, they must pander to blacks for votes. Blacks do not vote or participate at a civic level, we know this already. But liberal whites DO vote, and by pandering to blacks, white liberals feel really warm and fuzzy inside and vote democrat in order to impress their liberal friends. Same is true for Hispanics/illegals. Pandering to minorities buys liberal votes.
Republicans tell the truth for the most part about HBD, and will openly state the inequality (which is very unpopular), considered racist, "mean", and plain unfair to minorities and therefore will gain liberal or minority votes. We know that blacks are only the pawns in this game, for the most part, but are partly to blame because blacks are not just noble savages like liberals try to get us to believe.
Blacks are prone to laziness, criminality and anti-intellectualism. They are not oppressed victims, not held back by racist whites, and are actually the preferred race in BRA. They are chose 10:1 for admissions in some colleges over whites, please remember.
Blacks terrorize American citizens with their kill YT campaign on a daily basis, knowingly and willingly steal from the taxpayer and businesses, brutalize, rape and murder whites and other blacks, cause disturbances wherever they congregate, destroy states and cities, and neglect their children emotionally and financially.
This brings down white society, the original and current majority culture in America. The rest of the world looks down on us too, because we have so far been unable to manage and ensure the success of our problem black population, which is out of control.
Another reason is that the "management and education of blacks" industry has created thousands of jobs for Americans. Just think of all the DWL white teachers in the inner-city, the "achievement gap closers", the after school programs, the welfare program workers, the oversight committees, the diversity specialists, the minority outreach officers, the minority council on this and that, and the list goes on and on.
If we stopped pandering to blacks, many jobs would be lost and the black babies would all starve. Right?? Maybe we should ALL start to challenge this.
Simply stated:
Whites value that which is important to white culture.
Black people do not value and openly reject that which is important to white culture.
America is a dominant white culture, and so black people cannot excel in America.
The question is, are blacks willing to excel in a sub-culture? I say probably not.
Blanks,
As far as Japanese or Singaporean startups, who cares, what a red herring. Any boob can see that Japan and Singapore are orderly, safe, first world societies that have thriving economies. Anybody in Africa have that? Nope. Here is a fine test. If a greencard to come to America was offered to everyone in Nigeria how many would come? Damn near everyone.
And for the record, every African that I have ever met has been personable, smart and frightened of American blacks. Africans that make it to America have their stuff together because of the lack of welfare state entitlement in their homelands, they succeed because of ability and hard work, traits that American blacks see as "acting white". Note that I have never met any moslem Africans from Somalia, who by all accounts are dreadful savages.
My hope for black Americans is that one day they will realize just how badly LBJ and "Civil Rights" destroyed the black family. From roughly 20% out of wedlock births to 70% in just a couple decades. Welfare and the state taking the place of the father, whose only job now is to impregnate and move on. Can anyone really argue that blacks are better off now than they were in the 50's?
BUBO
"...the lack of black startups is'nt really a big deal and mostly explainable by cultural factors."
Read much?
Tell that to your own black people who are making it an issue:
"How many of the companies you've just mentioned were started by someone who looks like you?"
and
"Disruption" is fine as long as it's caused by white, male, Ivy-league hipsters in skinny jeans."
http://blog.priforce.me/startup-america-needs-to-look-more-like-ameri
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/navarrow-wright/black-like-me-the-minorit_b_824427.html
First of all, do not judge my writing ability on the the comments I leave on this site. Please. I am not even trying when I write comments and I will say that even then, I find my way with words is pretty good. You can tell there is natural talent bubbling over. I admit that I have bullshitted many an essay but my bullshits are exceptional.
Me bullshitting an essay is not a reflection of soft-standards in writing. Many people can not bullshit an essay and get As. It is something that one can do when they can write.
I will constantly strive to perfect my Craft. Always. I can write both creative and noncreative pieces well. Always have, as I've been writing stories since I was a little girl.
Yeah, I get it: beat up on Desiree, the negro harpy. But I was blessed with a natural skill for this writing bit, not to mention I am also skilled at drawing. My father is an artist, as is my aunt. My mother also always wanted to be a writer but 'life and having a family' got in the way, as it were.
I agree that writing ability is not necessarily mutually exclusive with math ability. I can be honest and say I--at the point of writing this comment--am a C math student, average. C, C, C. Be it algebra or calc. I feel for me that my biggest failing when it comes to mathematics is the remembering the rules part. Because math builds and builds on previous knowledge and I have a hard time remembering the rules. I can work a problem with incredible ease if the rules are fresh in my mind. It's like computation then.
A funny thing in physics happened. The question was prove with trig., geometry, etc. that angle theta = angle beta in a triangle. This was an incredibly simple question, in hindsight, that is. However, this was a recall of rules I hadn't seen since high school. My lab partner was from Iran and she did it with little difficulty. I said, 'God, you're smart.' She explained it to me and it was basic geometrical rules that I seriously could not remember.
I have no qualms in relating this story because it illustrates something I'd said in my original comments: this girl went to school in a foreign country wherein they exhorted algebra, geometry, trig., calc, etc. for years and years for the student. Beyond my own poor memory/recall for such info, in my high school, we were never pushed to continue on in our maths education, which should have been compulsory as with knowing how to write in complete sentences and coherent ideas and knowing how to evaluate, understand, analyze, explicate texts.
We just do not have this rigor here in America. Needless to say, I was jealous and will always be jealous. I feel robbed by this educational system, and all of the kids in America, regardless of race, are being robbed.
Only fools try to blame someone's failings on something as immutable as race. The stats are there: compared to other nation's, we suck at math/science. And you cannot blame it on blacks or Latinos. Most people in the US are white, those are representations of American white ability in comparison to Asians and Africans and Europeans.
The holier-than-thou attitude of this blog, and the racist angle, really, really prevents real dialogue on the issues. If you don't want me to 'Blame Whitey' anymore I won't, as I am a little more nuanced than the Pan-Africanists I enjoy listening to. But you all should know there is a difference--maybe a fine line but it exists--between conservatism and racism...
"We are experts on black people. We have had thousands of encounters with blacks, we all share the same stories, and we know all about the black characteristics of which you are in denial."
One, even if your exaggeration was true, you still wouldn't know everything. If you knew so much about us, then you would know the point we're trying to make, and you would know why it means so much. You would know the history of blacks if you were an expert. You would know our true pain, happiness, and desire. You would know exactly what it means to be black instead of what you get from this blog and tv.
You would know the problems our people face everyday. And you would know that your race is no better than us. You would see the other side of the story instead of the "white" side. So if you guys are an expert on my people, why don't you know how to act around us? Why don't you know our history?
I guess it takes a black to know a black, and it takes a white to know a white. No matter how much we try to understand another, if you're not in that particular race, you'll never trully understand what it means to be them. I know so, because if you guys were an expert on us, there would be some kind of relationship or understanding between us, but there isn't.
The blacks and whites on here are against one another. What happened to your guys's expertise? Point proven.
You Get What You Get
My physics lab instructor said something really hilarious which is once again indicative of the American educational system and our collective conscious about education and ability (we need to change it!).
He asked us: 'So, what do you do when you face a really hard physics problem?'
No one answered.
He then joked, 'You change your major.'
I laughed aloud at that but it put some things into perspective. You cannot give up when you can't do something; it's all in your head, a product of this disgusting social Darwinist psychology of America. If I worked harder--and I know deeply that I am only 50% operational when it comes to math, so I am my own enemy in that regard--I can and will do better. That's why these Urban Prep kids don't deserve derision. Everything is a start.
A lot of inner-city youths have no support and, therefore, they do not understand the concept of intrinsic motivation, of believing in yourself that we middle class people have always understood. This is not an immutable 'black thing'; it's a psychology that is easily changeable. I know they hide lots of actual black history from the record but ours is a history of a very strong, perceptive, and intelligent people. I don't know what the hell has happened, though. The fight is never over, why be complacent?
Stop being a pessimist, SBPDL. It'll give you ulcers. These kids are just children; they're innocent. What the hell do want them do to? Go die in a cave because work by the Pioneer Fund says their inalterable DNA will keep them at near-retardation levels no matter how much funding and vouchers and assistance they receive?
What should they do?? All of these jabs at black people but tell us the real solution you want to see applied... Don't be shy; you haven't been thus far, why start now?
I would hope Nigeria would have Black startups. It is after all a Black country.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigeria#Demographics
Now why doesn't Detroit have the same thing? Parts of DC? Atlanta? Birmingham? Those other states in America that you pointed out have large Black populations?
Is it Black culture in America that keeps innovation in the Black community (outside of music and sports) down? Racism? If not, what is it?
@ Anon 11:06 Feb. 18
You see, you're not an expert. You believe just because I'm black that I'll have double standards for my people. I'm here to tell you that not only am I black, but I am a strong and faithful man of God. I put my morals before anyone. If you were truly an expert, you would be able to look past the skin color and focus on the person, because that is truly who we are.
So to answer your questions , yes I do some of those things you've mentioned, and would do some of them if I ever was faced with the opportunity. But being a man of God, I don't have to worry about those more serious things.
You Get What You Get
"...they do not understand the concept of intrinsic motivation, of believing in yourself that we middle class people have always understood."
Oh for God's sake, we have been here already! I am finished with trying to reform and save the black race!
Do gooder blacks like you are the worst enemy of other blacks. Even the blacks who have had marginal success with handouts are returning to the ghetto in huge numbers. Shall we spend even more money on them? Why are the black "parents" not doing their jobs?
Let the apples finally fall from the tree! Build more prisons!
Why try to change nature?
Is there some magic that blacks will offer that we don't already have??
We must stop paying for them to reproduce themselves!
Let nature take its course. Let the chips fall where they may.
"they hide lots of actual black history from the record..."
Who the fuck is "they"? Blame YT again? More black mythology and story-telling.
You would know our true pain, happiness, and desire. You would know exactly what it means to be black instead of what you get from this blog and tv.
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1. Your pain is that you are black. (Lazy, angry, less intelligent, violent, jealous. Embracing culture of blame and victimization. A feral group existing inside civilization, and outcast for it.)
2. Your happiness is in causing misery to everyone you encounter. Unfortunately, you are adept at this.
3. Your desire is to destroy everything within your field of perception. Unfortunately, you are an expert at this.
"Don't be shy; you haven't been thus far, why start now?"
Wow Diseree, two dumps in one day!
I have already made a list of what should happen to control the negro problem. Have you been reading??
Desiracist said:
"A lot of inner-city youths have no support and, therefore, they do not understand the concept of intrinsic motivation"
Uh-huh. This is black culture at work. Black "parents". Why do da yoofs has no suppot? And do do dey has no motivations? Is is beez cos dey be taught by dey mama dat it all beez whitey fawt, an he beez payin' fo' it, sho' nuff? Is it beez cos they mammy an' baby-daddy donts gives a shits bouts dem? Is it cos dey mama be a crack ho an' dey baby-daddy be daid? Is it beez cos dey don't even knows why dey daddy is? Desiracist, dese beez black problems, yo. Dis be a viscious cycle of black problems, yo. Desiracist, a cycle beez a sitch-ashun wheres the same bad shit beez happenin to duh same peeples gen'ration afters gen'ration ober an' ober gin, cos dose same peeples beez teachin' they babies the same bad shit! An' dis viscious cycle beez worse an' worse cos da black peeples, ya knows, dey has really quick-like gen'ration cycles, yo. Like it beez 10-12 ye-ahs from birfin a baby to dat baby givin birf. Soon dese skank-ho bitches be givin biff to babys dat beez pregnant when dey beez bawn! Iz troo! I sees it one time on da Star Trek. Desiracist, you caint blame no whitey cracka cos black peeples raises they keeds to beez niggas wit no values an' no ambition. It beez what it beez, an' dat beez a nigga problem.
These kids are just children; they're innocent.
Most "children" this age in Desiree's "community" are already baby-daddys, drug dealers or some other variety of felon, illiterate, unproductive, and well into a lifelong career of criminal activity.
These 104 thugs are just late bloomers.
You Get What You Get (self-proclaimed moral man of God)
Let's look past "color." Care to examine these fine "people" for us?
http://thugreport.com/
http://www.sullivan-county.com/wcva/liberal_racism.htm
Desiree has become Queen of the Clang Birds, and it seems she has brought a few of her disciples to the roundtable SBPDL graciously hosts.
"The Clang Bird is a rare creature that flies in ever decreasing circles at ever increasing speeds until with a terrible clang it disappears up its own ass. It is only because of the will of God that the Clang Bird is not yet extinct."
— St. Gomer, O.S.T., Founder, Order of St. Thomas, Novissima Verba, 1717
What a crock of shit. desirhea, you are barking up the wrong tree. too bad you are not swinging from it.
"You would know the problems our people face everyday."
Crime, violence, drugs, AIDS, ilegitimacy...
All self-inflicted.
A Modest Proposal for Managing the Black Plague
1. Retroactively de-criminalize ALL black-on-black crime.
2. Radically intensify punishments for black-on-white crime AND white-on-black crime.
3. Offer one-time LARGE cash settlements to black women who have ever spawned, to be irreversibly sterilized. The cash settlement will be paid on a monthly basis, like welfare, but with the added bonus of NO NEW NIGLETS.
4. Offer cash payments to any pregnant black woman to have an abortion. Additional cash payments for irreversible sterilization.
5. Cash incentive for black people to legally and irreversibly cease claim to American citizenship and go to Africa. Permanent tracking device mandatory, and return to America punishable by immediate execution.
5. Cash payment to black males of any age to be castrated. Payments to black women who refuse to have abortion to sterilize their offspring at birth.
It could take a while for the plan to reach utopian standards, but the benefits would be practically immediate and rapidly escalating.
Blacks will do almost anything for a few bucks, so this should work.
Desiree....a member of the "Clueless Clucking Clang"...say it ain't so!
Dizzy Ray said:
"I will constantly strive to perfect my Craft."
You might want to learn to capitalize first, honey chile.
I'll give it to you straight, Dizzy. Your writing is atrocious. SBPDL can write. Hirsch can write. Porter, curse his nazi soul, can write. Black Guy keeps it short, but his thoughts are well-developed and expressed well. You, on the other hand, write with an ebonics accent. Reading you is like listening to a Sarah Palin speech.
And you were a C student in algebra? ALGEBRA?? And you have no shame admitting to his? Get some standards, bitch! Get some dignity!
The verdict is in, General Disarray. You are officially mentally retarded.
@ Anon Feb. 18 1:54pm
Those OPINIONS of yours proves how much of an "expert" you really are on blacks. If I wanted those answers, all I would've had to do was ask any racist against blacks. You're stereotypical and nothing special from the bunch on this blog.
If I wouldn't have opposed the majority on this blog or stuck up for blacks, you wouldn't have thought I was lazy, angry, less-intelligent, or whatever. If I wouldn't have stated that I was black, you wouldn't have thought those things. You base a race on a few of its individuals. You haven't even seen me in real life, but yet you assume I'm those things.
The real idiot here is the one who bases what they know on the color of skin. Your OPINIONS have no evidence of such. All you can do is give me a couple examples of your "ecounters" with my people.
By the way you speak, I know you're a stubborn, biased, and stereotypical white who knows nothing about blacks. I bet you've never even tried to get to know us. You looked at the gangsters and criminals, and thought: "These are the only kinds of blacks"
You get What You Get
Porter, curse his nazi soul, can write
Oh, come now. Nazi accusations only serve to elevate the discourse. Let's return to more base pursuits, like calling for me to be hanged (as I am already well hung).
"If I wanted those answers"
No one gives a fuck what you want.
Now piss off.
"You looked at the gangsters and criminals, and thought: "These are the only kinds of blacks"
You are such a simple country bumpkin negro. You cannot see past the end of your own nose. You need to get out and look around. This is why blacks are so ass out.
Go to Google "ghetto" and see what pops up. Then you will know why we have such a huge black problem. Everywhere we go, loud rambunctious negros ruin the fun for everyone. Remember Diseree talking about blacks "actin a foo"? That is the shit we hate most of all.
And by the way, I don't even own a TV, you moron. I develop my prejudices from firsthand encounters.
"You haven't even seen me in real life, but yet you assume I'm those things."
No, you are a black who refuses to hold other blacks accountable for their massive failure and dysfunction. We all have eyes. White people have been trying to "manage" the black population for decades, and it does not work. You could help, but you don't. You are a victimologist, and an enemy to blacks.
You are like most blacks who are in denial about the massive dysfunction in your "community". The problem is that blacks do not behave like whites and do not have a white value system, and whites do not like it. I don't want the foulness of black culture rammed down my throat every day, it is completely foreign to me.
This IS a white majority country, and whether you like it or not, even if the browns become a majority, the majority culture will STILL rule. Don't expect this country to turn into a big brown third-world African shit hole anytime soon. White people have the brains to run a country. Your blacks do not, and never will.
Wake up!
"The problem is that blacks do not behave like whites and do not have a white value system, and whites do not like it."
I do hold my people accountable if they commit crimes. Again, I clearly stated I don't have double standards. Also, being white is not the solution to anyone's problems. You obviously are a supremacist. You believe that your race is the only race with good morals and solutions for this nation.
If the nation were to be a White Utopia, America would mean nothing. This nation is all about diveristy, freedom, and dreams. Your kind wants to limit those dreams because you believe you're dreams are the only ones acceptable. No one's perfect, and no race is perfect. No race is more elite or perfect than the other.
If we were to be like you people, we would find a way to create ranks among our own people, we would hate one another, and we would self-destruct. Face it. Your kind always finds a way to separate or classify people. It's in your corrupt nature.
Keep in my mind when I refer to your kind, I mean people like the ones on this blog.
You Get What You Get
"You haven't even seen me in real life, but yet you assume I'm those things."
Seriously, you are an idiot.
Please, read and listen CAREFULLY.
This is not about YOU.
No one gives a shit about YOU.
This is about atrocious TYPICAL NEGRO BEHAVIOR (TNB).
If you feel that you are being unfairly judged because of the color of your skin...TOUGH SHIT.
Until your people learn to behave as civilized human beings...(ie, NEVER)...you are going to be guilty of BEING BLACK.
If you don't like it...then stop making excuses for atrocious black behavior, and work to change it.
You Get What You Get,
Your presence here proves every negative thing any of us feel/believe about your dreadful race. You are here, knowing you are unwelcome, making yourself conspicuous, telling lies and doing your best to irritate and aggravate everyone else. It's been made abundantly clear that people would prefer you go, yet you revel in your infestation. You're like the typical negro, scowling as you trudge slowly across the street, dead lice dropping from your body as you delight in making whitey stop in the middle of the street and wait while your sorry ass glacially drags itself to the crackhouse on the corner.
I suprised the sky high std rate amoung blacks hasn't been mentioned by anyone. Blacks are walking std factories.
"No race is more elite or perfect than the other."
Pay attention.
The black race occupies the bottom of the social structure throughout the entire world.
There is not a place on this planet where the black crime rate is low. There is not a place on this planet where black illegitimacy is low. There is not a place on this planet where black educational achievement is high. And there is not a place on this planet that has been IMPROVED by the presence of blacks.
I don't give a shit if you believe in the Tooth Fairy and Santa Claus. But as long as you continue to mindlessly repeat your "All Races Are Equal" mantra, you will be ignored, and you will be considered a joke.
There has never been a place or situation not made worse by black people.
"It's been made abundantly clear that people would prefer you go, yet you revel in your infestation."
Do you honestly think just because I'm not popular on this blog that I'll leave? If you're not popular at a school do you just transfer to another? No. I don't back down because I'm not liked. What I offer are words of wisdom that are not accepted by your stubborn kind. I offer optimism, but clearly it's not perceived by your pessimistic kind.
Also, do you really think I wanted to be liked by the people on here? I'm clearly aggainst the majority and my views are far different. One, I'm black on a "hate black people blog", which pretty much gives away what feelings my pressence will give off on others.
"I don't give a shit if you believe in the Tooth Fairy and Santa Claus. But as long as you continue to mindlessly repeat your "All Races Are Equal" mantra, you will be ignored, and you will be considered a joke."
You people are the most redundant people I've ever met. The only joke is you and the others that continue to respond to my supposed "mantra". Every time I've posted, I've received a response, yet you people claim that no one cares and so forth, but you still make sure to reply.
If you really don't care, don't reply. Otherwise, accept what I have to give, or argue your point. I don't purposely offend you people, it's the hard truth. We are all equal whether you want to believe it or not. Your race is just as bad as mine. Get over it and accept.
For now I'll go by...
Take it or Leave it (You Get What You Get)
"One, I'm black on a "hate black people blog", which pretty much gives away what feelings my pressence will give off on others."
Your "pressence" doesn't give feelings to people. How do you give a feeling, anyway?
"We are all equal whether you want to believe it or not."
What does that even mean? Are we the same height? Do we all get the same time in the 100m dash? How exactly are we all equal?
"Your race is just as bad as mine."
Not really. The group of people who fit into my "race" are on average far superior to the group of people that fall into yours.
"What I offer are words of wisdom that are not accepted by your stubborn kind."
Your arrogance and unwarranted self-importance are appalling. You're not as dirt-dumb as Desiree, but neither are you as intelligent as Black Guy. Get an IQ, and know your place.
I'll give it to you straight, Dizzy. Your writing is atrocious. SBPDL can write. Hirsch can write. Porter, curse his nazi soul, can write.
This comment is funny on so many levels.
First of all, it's pretty obvious who our author is. Statement analysis affords us an acute way to measure deception in writing.
I already know who this is. Oh, my sides are splitting from the hilarity!
That you mentioned SBPDL being able to write in comparison to me was your first fatal flaw. S.A. tells us that most people cannot lie well and their statements will betray them.
You know that I think SBPDL can't write. Likewise, I know you believe the same as I do. Trying to pull out this historical agreement and then disagree with it was not very subtle.
Next, you mention 'Hirsch can write.' This exposes you even worse than the first, as you knew mentioning yourself first (notice: Hirsch was not even on this thread) would be your undoing. A typical deceptive technique is to place yourself at a conspicuous distance. Too conspicuous. Mentioning Hirsch second was the only logical choice, babes, and not a clever one!
Next, you bring up Porter. Firstly, Porter had not been on for a while, so mentioning him is just plain odd. Secondly--and this is the biggie--you referred to him as having a 'Nazi soul'. Now no one on this site will refer to Porter as a Nazi unless they were maybe black or a Jew who had got into a disagreement with Porter about said Jew's Jewishness.
I think the big arrow in neon lights is pointing to only one person and he enjoys potato pancakes more than the average white commenter on SBPDL: hiya, Hirschie babie!
I think you may be insane at this point. Calling me 'bitch' is a new one and I would have never suspected you as the culprit if it weren't for the aforementioned obviousness. I wonder how many other sock-puppets you've put on to troll me. You're obviously the slave talking one but who else?? You are not well, baby; get help!!
Oh, and I know you believe I can write; don't even go there...
We just do not have this rigor here in America. Needless to say, I was jealous and will always be jealous. I feel robbed by this educational system, and all of the kids in America, regardless of race, are being robbed.
Lol. Americans put men in space using slide rules, honey. But that was before anyone ever got the idea that American education had to be dumbed down -- had to -- in order to accommodate the "educational needs" of blacks and other no-hopers. Of course, you're quite right to describe this idiocy as "robbery."
The way to rectify the situation is to simply accept that people differ in academic ability and quit wasting time, mental energy and resources "closing gaps." Instead, time and resources could be then better spent helping students get a grip on the basics, regardless of how long it takes, simply because they're too important to neglect. The rest of the time should be spent simply helping students discover subject matter and tasks they have an aptitude for or enjoy. That seems like a much better deal than shoving algebra down the throats of guinea pigs who'll never really understand it much, and certainly never enjoy it, and will abandon and forget it first chance they get.
Only fools try to blame someone's failings on something as immutable as race. The stats are there: compared to other nation's, we suck at math/science. And you cannot blame it on blacks or Latinos. Most people in the US are white, those are representations of American white ability in comparison to Asians and Africans and Europeans.
I don't know if "blame" is the right word, but it's certainly an explanation. Blacks and latinos drag down the average. It really is that simple. White Americans do quite well in comparison to other white countries; and this in spite of the handicaps placed on them -- meaning they'd likely do even better without them.
"I think the big arrow in neon lights is pointing to only one person and he enjoys potato pancakes more than the average white commenter on SBPDL: hiya, Hirschie babie!"
Desiree, you really are as dumb as a rock. You use "statement analysis" and that's what you come up with? Truly, completely retarded. Look closer and concentrate, bitch.
@ anon February 18, 2011 10:32 PM
What Desiree fails to understand is that one can no more ascertain a writer's ability from a class assignment than they can from a blog. About 2% of Americans read for recreation, and of that number, most are erring toward books with Fabio gracing the covers.
Desiree has a blog, and the requirements for a blog are twofold: 1)Opposable thumbs 2)an internet connection. That being the case, if a homeless man wanted to write about the state of public restrooms in his local library, he could easily obtain a .blogspot (and probably would be providing more of a social good than say, someone who writes about Michael Jackson).
I never claimed I was Thomas Pynchon, but I have sold stories and articles, which, the last time I checked, at least makes me semi-professional. Desiree has yet to leave the starting gate, which makes her self-congratulation a little suspect.
@ Desiree
I am no more the anonymous above than you are "You Get What You Get." As to Porter's writing, it's not bad, though a little overwrought. If I remember correctly, he said my prose "pings around like a Burmese opium pellet." This sounds like a charge that Thomas De Quincey might have lobbed at Coleridge in centuries past.
Desiree's strident tone would be more suited to slam poetry. Literary talent is a mushroom best nurtured in darkness. She doesn't want revelation. She wants (obviously) attention. Desi, take Stephen King's advice and "spout doggerel about your angry lesbian breasts as you cried your mother's name in a tilted alley." You're a woman, you're a minority, and if you play at being a lesbian you'll hit the trifecta as far as your options when submitting your work for publication.
As an aside, that wizard's cap at the top of the page looks more than a little like either a melted heap of frozen yogurt or a steaming pile of dog doo. If it is intended to look like the latter, perhaps these students could craft a facsimile and use it as their graduation mortarboards. And they can sub in "Up in Da Club," for "Pomp and Circumstance" when they walk down the aisle.
In the words of Don Cornelius, peace and soul. And we out.
"Do you honestly think just because I'm not popular on this blog that I'll leave?"
Of course not. What an idiotic question.
Blacks have never had the decency or courtesy to leave from where they are unwanted.
"You people are the most redundant people I've ever met."
Yet you keep coming back here, and you keep repeating "we are all equal".
What a total dick.
"yet you people claim that no one cares"
There is not a single person on this blog (except for Diarrhea) who embraces your "message".
Your message is universally ignored, and considered a joke.
No one cares about your message.
That does not mean that it isn't fun to ridicule you for the nonstop, repetitive stupidity that you post.
Are you intelligent enough to grasp this?
You are like a three-year-old who wants to argue so bad that the only thing you can say is "if you don't care, then why do you respond?".
Yet you ignore the larger point...
"The black race occupies the bottom of the social structure throughout the entire world.
There is not a place on this planet where the black crime rate is low. There is not a place on this planet where black illegitimacy is low. There is not a place on this planet where black educational achievement is high. And there is not a place on this planet that has been IMPROVED by the presence of blacks."
"This comment is funny on so many levels."
You're like a broken record...repeat...repeat...repeat...
"The stats are there: compared to other nation's, we suck at math/science. And you cannot blame it on blacks or Latinos."
White and Asian test scores remain high, especially kids in school districts with few negroes.
"Your race is just as bad as mine."
Pay attention.
The black race occupies the bottom of the social structure throughout the entire world.
There is not a place on this planet where the black crime rate is low. There is not a place on this planet where black illegitimacy is low. There is not a place on this planet where black educational achievement is high. And there is not a place on this planet that has been IMPROVED by the presence of blacks.
I don't give a shit if you believe in the Tooth Fairy and Santa Claus. But as long as you continue to mindlessly repeat your "All Races Are Equal" mantra, you will be ignored, and you will be considered a joke.
"yet you people claim that no one cares"
I don't care about my neighbor's dog, but if he comes in my house and shits on my floor, I'll still kick him in the ass.
"Your message is universally ignored, and considered a joke."
And the message on this blog is acknowledged? If this was so, America would be far different. Most of us do believe we are all equal, that's why slavery, discrimination, prejudice, and racism are severely punished if committed in America. Maybe 5% of Americans actually care about what you or this blog has to say.
I'm simply trying to help you people understand that what you're doing is wrong. You may not want my help, but if you think about it, none of the information on this site is legitimate. It's mostly opinions, not even "hate facts".
And the comments in response to mine are only insults. You people need to realize, that no matter how many absurd, idiotic, and repulsive insults you throw at me, I'm going to turn the other cheek and move on.
"You are like a three-year-old who wants to argue so bad that the only thing you can say is "if you don't care, then why do you respond?".
Yet you ignore the larger point...
"The black race occupies the bottom of the social structure throughout the entire world."
The point you offer isn't the point to be discussed or seen. If this may be true, does it make it right to ridicule and degrade blacks? How would you feel about a SWPDL? An exact replica of this blog, except vice versa in races? I bet you wouldn't like it, and I bet you would stick up for your race.
My actions are guided by my morals. And you have proven that you do care. You can make up excuses like it's amusing to insult me, but we all know the truth. And even if that was true, you're and so are the others like you, no better than children.
Take It Or Leave It
"And the message on this blog is acknowledged?"
Of course not. You are the undisputed king of idiotic questions.
The message on this blog is spreading, and thanks to the internet, the number of Those Who Can See is growing exponentially.
You've changed zero minds here. Zero.
Keep up the good work.
"And you have proven that you do care."
I don't care about my neighbor's dog, but if he comes in my house and shits on my floor, I'll still kick him in the ass.
"My actions are guided by my morals."
Your actions here are mocked and ridiculed.
Perhaps your time would be better spent teaching black people not to break the law, not to have out-of-wedlock children, and not to drop out of high school.
Good luck.
@ Hirsch:
Don't bullshit me. You may think I am stupid but I excel at guessing games. It was you; do not lie, although I am not completely surprised you would resort to deception after being so mercilessly exposed.
Yes, being a writer, you assume you are clever but I am more so. Don't forget that.
Desiree has a blog, and the requirements for a blog are twofold: 1)Opposable thumbs 2)an internet connection. That being the case, if a homeless man wanted to write about the state of public restrooms in his local library, he could easily obtain a .blogspot (and probably would be providing more of a social good than say, someone who writes about Michael Jackson).
First of all, you've already told me both my blogs and stories were well-written, unless you had ulterior motives then, and I wouldn't be surprised. I also have two blogs, one for Jacko and one for fiction; the latter is on private because, as you know, what I enjoy writing ain't for the masses but I do like to see it in print.
You know, Hirsch, I may not provide a social good but people are interested in Jacko. And I will give these people what they want.
My pieces on his homosexuality ping-ponged around the internet and caused a huge storm in the community. I was deluged with hate mail and hate comments, people slandering my character and accusing me of being a NAMBLA member.
This is when a writer knows she has done well. She knows she was effective. Also, by virtue of having my blog, do you know how much insider shit I know? I could seriously sell a story to the National Enquirer and get 5 figures.
Do you think your pieces on Fight Hype go toward a social good? Yeah...exactly... And I won't even discuss the quality of writing in those, Hirsch, because I think you may be too sensitive for 'adequate yet flavorless'.
but I have sold stories and articles, which, the last time I checked, at least makes me semi-professional. Desiree has yet to leave the starting gate, which makes her self-congratulation a little suspect.
I don't have to have sold anything, Hirsch; the quality of my work is there on the blog for all to see. I disbelieve in stasis and if you think it is no good, I will always try to find a way to make it better. I thank you for the 'adverbs' tip, always. Much love for that one, Hirschie, especially since it was corroborated by King, whom I adore and trust.
I was lying on the floor in my hallway the other day picking up books from the book shelf and reading how other writers express themselves through words. And you know who has millions of dollars and can't write worth a damn? Danielle Steel.
So, you see, Hirsch, making money does not equal quality. I know you know this. Stephen King contradicts himself all the time. He says if you get a check for your work and it does not bounce, you can call yourself a good writer. But then he says multi-millionaires like Stephanie Meyer can't write worth a damn. And I am reading 'On Writing' and the 'angry lesbian breasts' tripe, I would never write. Give me some credit.
Literary talent is a mushroom best nurtured in darkness. She doesn't want revelation. She wants (obviously) attention.
Hirsch, I know you are jealous of everyone with a blog, like this one here. And probably that I have one, too. For some reason, you worry that if you start one, no one will give a shit. So, you continue to hold onto your 'truisms' while I do my thing. Your insults, given history, mean nothing to me, babes.
If you need help with your blog, you can email me through my blog mail on my website, like many other people do asking for blog tips. I can help you work on 'Hirsch speaks...so listen...', in the mode of moi, your benefactor.
Not to worry, Hirschie, I would read it. I'd be your number one fan. X-D
"Take It Or Leave It"
Shove it up your ass.
If the nation were to be a White Utopia, America would mean nothing.
You are a fool, you are only spewing liberal talking points that you have learned on TV. You have nothing important to add to this discussion.
White people settled and built the America you enjoy now. The Founders envisioned a white utopia, and following slavery, unsuccessfully rid themselves of the black freed slave population. The intent was to protect the white utopia. The immigration of the brown people and the presence of blacks in America will be the end of our white majority.
Diversity is a PROBLEM to overcome, not something to celebrate or promote. People prefer their own kind, and the races are NOT equal no matter what your misguided opinion might be. You have been drinking too much of the Man's Kool-Aid, dude.
Blacks bring nothing of value to western white society. Listen again - Blacks bring nothing of value to western white society. Ask any white person and they will tell you this. You are in denial about your contributions. Watch what happens when blacks start to move in to a city or neighborhood in large numbers.
Whites flee for their lives because the value of everything takes a nose dive when blacks participate.
And you are like most blacks I have encountered, unwilling to take a hint that you are not wanted, unwilling to just leave quietly and politely, always demanding to be a part of everything without working for it or making any type of contribution.
You are not wanted!
If there were a "SWPDL" blog (and there may be)...the primary topics of discussion would be black people and TNB. If it weren't for black people, there would be nothing to be unhappy about.
@ Anon
"There is not a place on this planet where black educational achievement is high."
A blatant un-truth.
Nigerian Americans
The 2006 American Community Survey of the U.S. Census Bureau stated that 37% of Nigerians in the United States had bachelor's degrees, 17% had master's degrees, and 4% had doctorates. As of that year 8% of White Americans had master's degrees, and as of the same year 12% of Asian Americans had master's degrees and 3% of Asian Americans had doctorates Roderick Harrison, a demographer of the Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies, said that the statistics for Nigerian Americans had "strikingly high" levels of education; he added "There is no doubt that these are highly educated professionals who are probably working in the petrochemical, medical and business sectors in Houston." Stephen Klineberg, a Rice University sociologist, said that he believed that the actual percentage of Nigerian Americans with post-graduate academic degrees is higher than indicated in the 2006 survey.[4]
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5791096.html
They are probably the highest educated group in the US. They work in white-collar profession sdisproportionately. Nigerians are the black equivalent to jews.
Try again.
"A blatant un-truth.
Nigerian Americans"
Black educational achievement in America is abominable.
Black educational achievement in Nigeria is horrific.
My statement is correct.
Now piss off.
"As of that year 8% of White Americans had master's degrees, and as of the same year 12% of Asian Americans"
Ooops, looks like you accidentally omitted the figures for black Americans.
@ Anon
"My statement is correct."
LMAO. You said "nowhere was black educational achievement high", and I proved you wrong.
So means your statement was false genius.
It was my pleasure to know one of those very same Nigerians. He came here and worked very hard for his masters in aeronautical engineering.
He also lived in Inglewood California while attending college, back in the early 1980s. His opinion of the natives of the area was - to put not too fine a point on it - one of extreme contempt. "They are in a land filled with opportunity but stand on street corners with their giant radios, dancing like fools. Their English is that of street trash! They do nothing to further themselves, yet blame society for their own lack of drive!" And onward.
He was, unfortunately, killed in a plane wreck. It has been many years and I still miss him grestly.
Dizzy Ray wrote:
"Don't bullshit me. You may think I am stupid but I excel at guessing games. It was you; do not lie, although I am not completely surprised you would resort to deception after being so mercilessly exposed. Yes, being a writer, you assume you are clever but I am more so. Don't forget that."
Wow. Just wow.
I think I've figured Dizzy out. How can she be so ignorant, so incapable, so racist, but at the same time think so highly of herself? The answer is simple: she only cares about appearance, not substance. She thinks that if she acts the way that intelligent people act, then she will magically become intelligent. Deep inside, she understands that she is a bona fida moron, but she would never dare admit it, not even to herself.
Godspeed, Disarray. But before you sell that multi-million dollar story to the Enquirer, you might want to learn the difference between "status" and "stasis". Moron.
"LMAO. You said "nowhere was black educational achievement high", and I proved you wrong."
LMAO You didn't prove shit.
According to the CIA World Factbook, in 2010 Nigeria had a per capita GDP of $2,400; ranking 145 out of 194 countries. Billy, if this fact doesn't quiet your ill-informed critics, then I fear nothing will.
Though what I found particularly impressive was Nigeria's trouncing of arch rival and co-economic powerhouse, Sudan: the latter managing only a meager $2,300 PCGDP.
And these figures don’t even tell the full story. The fact is that nothing is accomplished in Nigeria without black African-Africans. They teach the innumerable children, grade the dirt roads, and build the shanties of Lagos. Blacks also comprise a large majority of businessmen and politicians. Frankly, you can forget acceding to national office there without securing the black vote.
The truth is that--with the exception of providing food aid and every known modern technology since the wheel--Whites do practically nothing in this country. If only Nigeria had more black Nigerians, alas.
Billy in case I put too fine a point on it above, your thesis of black Nigerians constituting some superior cohort is manifestly absurd—as I believe the performance of a 150 million+ sample size would allow one to conclude.
What you have conflated—oddly, since the relevant factors are described in the very article you pasted—is the educational achievement of black Nigerians in sum with the educational achievement of a tiny subset of black Nigerians here in America specifically to attend superior white institutions which do not exist in their own black Nigerian country. They attain masters and terminal degrees because they will be dispatched to their home hellhole if they do not.
Until our dispossession achieves greater velocity, whites are under no such pressure to become gratuitously edumacated.
You’re capable of reading on your own, but to assist here’s the relevant language from the article you provided:
The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 made it easier for Africans to enter the U.S., but mostly as students or highly skilled professionals…So many Africans pursue higher levels of education as an unintended consequence of navigating the tricky minefield of immigration…In a way, it's a Catch-22 — because of immigration laws you are forced to remain in school, but then the funny thing is you end up getting your doctorate at the age of 29," Kaba said. "If you stay in school, immigration will leave you alone." Although Kaba, who teaches Africana Studies, is not from Nigeria (he is Liberian), he said he, too, found himself pursuing a master's and then a doctorate to remain in this country legally.
Did you note that the highly educated "Kaba" teaches African studies? Can you imagine the intellectual rigor within a classroom of African nationals,studying themselves no less, in a choreographed routine to avoid ICE? The boys in the physics department should breathe a sigh of relief.
Five - Ten years tops, China has 2+ million people in Nigeria.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People's_Republic_of_China_%E2%80%93_Nigeria_relations
"You are a fool, you are only spewing liberal talking points that you have learned on TV. You have nothing important to add to this discussion."
Unlike you people, my points come from my morals. SBPDL, uses works of fiction (movies) to get across his point, when we all know that movies are works of FICTION. The points used from there to relate to today's word are absurd and idiotic. It's like reading a tabloid and believing the crap in there.
"White people settled and built the America you enjoy now. The Founders envisioned a white utopia, and following slavery, unsuccessfully rid themselves of the black freed slave population. The intent was to protect the white utopia. The immigration of the brown people and the presence of blacks in America will be the end of our white majority."
America wasn't build to become a white utopia genuis. The nation we live in was built so that the European settlers could escape from the authority of the British. The true reason for this, was because they wanted freedom. They wanted Democracy. They hated being ruled by a king. They hated the taxes.
Everyone of the age 10 and above know this. And I could care less about your whines of the White Majority ending. If America was truly the intent of becoming a white utopia, WHY WAS IMMIGRATION ALLOWED?! (Keep in mind that blacks weren't the only ones that "immigrated" to America. Did you pay attention in Social Studies or what?!) Also, blacks never immigrated here. We were captured and brought here.
"Diversity is a PROBLEM to overcome, not something to celebrate or promote. People prefer their own kind, and the races are NOT equal no matter what your misguided opinion might be. You have been drinking too much of the Man's Kool-Aid, dude."
If this was so, why did the forefathers and presidents back when America was becoming a nation, allow diversity? Diversity isn't a problem. It was a goal. The early settlers wanted to prove that they could create a democratic government that consisted of all types of people, and still have a great Nation. They expected to have diversity when the nation became the nation of dreams genuis.
"Blacks bring nothing of value to western white society. Listen again - Blacks bring nothing of value to western white society. Ask any white person and they will tell you this. You are in denial about your contributions. Watch what happens when blacks start to move in to a city or neighborhood in large numbers."
America isn't a white society. It's everyone's society. You should know this. America is based on diversity, freedom, and democracy. You're just throwing a fit because blacks don't act like your race, and it bothers you greatly.
"And you are like most blacks I have encountered, unwilling to take a hint that you are not wanted, unwilling to just leave quietly and politely, always demanding to be a part of everything without working for it or making any type of contribution.
You are not wanted!"
"Genuis", I clearly stated earlier that I knew I wasn't wanted and didn't care. I'm not leaving, so deal with it. And I do work for what I want to be in. I don't have to work to be a part of this comment section, seeing how the author enabled it to be used freely for his viewers, "genuis".
Take It Or Leave It
Some fool spewed: "The early settlers wanted to prove that they could create a democratic government that consisted of all types of people, and still have a great Nation."
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Whether or not this was the goal (it wasn't), you and your people have proven them wrong. There can be no order, success, peace, safety or progress in the presence of black people.
"Unlike you people, my points come from my morals."
And your morals have guided you to make a fool of yourself on this website rather than doing something to actually help black people??????
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Black people are committing crime, having out-of-wedlock children, using drugs, dropping out of school, woefully unemployed...
And Mr Morals addresses these things by wasting his time on this blog!!!
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Such great morals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"I clearly stated earlier that I knew I wasn't wanted and didn't care."
This makes you a normal, typical negro.
"LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL"
You remind of those annoying retards who found it amusing to over use LoL when texting. This is a political blog, act like you have sense for once. I cannot tell you how many annoying children you remind me of. You take insulting to a dumb level I never knew existed.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL your behind out of here.
Milo
@ 1st Anon
Reading comprehension fail? Try reading it again and explaining how I didn't prove anything.
Thanks.
@ Porter
"According to the CIA World Factbook, in 2010 Nigeria had a per capita GDP of $2,400; ranking 145 out of 194 countries. Billy, if this fact doesn't quiet your ill-informed critics, then I fear nothing will."
Nigerias economy doubled in in size from 2005 to 2010. Its actually doubling every 5 years ($170 million to $340 million). Its projected to reach $780 billion by 2015. Per capita income also doubled btw in that time.
I'll informed indeed.
"The truth is that--with the exception of providing food aid and every known modern technology since the wheel--Whites do practically nothing in this country. If only Nigeria had more black Nigerians, alas"
Food aid? Nigeria produces its own food as its agricultural sector contributes 32% to its GDP.
Secondly the claim that whites "provided" every technological innovation since the wheel is false. The Egyptians and Chinese contributed significant innovations in ancient times (calender, geometry, gunpowder, even sculpture, etc) where white people until the Greeks were nowhere to be found. Then it was the Arabs during the middle ages (again whites mostly nowhere to be found during that time).
So nope.
"What you have conflated—oddly, since the relevant factors are described in the very article you pasted—is the educational achievement of black Nigerians in sum with the educational achievement of a tiny subset of black Nigerians here in America specifically to attend superior white institutions which do not exist in their own black Nigerian country. They attain masters and terminal degrees because they will be dispatched to their home hellhole if they do not."
Disregarding your irrelevant tripe about "superior white institutions" (as if the presence of whites magically makes them superior) what you fail to see is the same selectivity in immigration applies to Asians as well (accounting for their high education rates). Not only that Nigerians, score higher than Asians in education rates. Its clear the issue is not race.
"Did you note that the highly educated "Kaba" teaches African studies? Can you imagine the intellectual rigor within a classroom of African nationals,studying themselves no less, in a choreographed routine to avoid ICE? The boys in the physics department should breathe a sigh of relief."
1. "Kaba" is not Nigerian.
2. Nigerians (through their names) make up %16 (roughly 1 out of every 6) of black computer scientists/mathematicians on this list:http://www.math.buffalo.edu/mad/computer-science/cs-peeps.html but are only 1/37 african americans.
They are only 1/40 blacks in america but 1/5 blacks in the hard sciences. Its safe to say they have plenty of representation in those fields.
"Reading comprehension fail? Try reading it again and explaining how I didn't prove anything."
Read it yourself, and see that you didn't prove shit.
Billy said:
“I’ll informed indeed.” You will eh? Alright let’s work with that.
Nigeria’s economy doubled…
I don’t care if Nigeria’s economy doubled from one stale biscuit to two. That wasn’t the point you futilely attempted to make. Your claim was that black Nigerians represent some high performance group; the fact is they do not. That they are somewhat less of a miserably performing group than they have been in prior periods is of no consequence to the argument. Wake us up to continue this debate when they surpass Swaziland.
Food aid? Nigeria produces its own food as its agricultural sector contributes 32% to its GDP.
Again, Billy you make statements as if they have some bearing on your contention. Sadly for you they do not. Yes Nigeria produces food and yes that production represents some X percentage of its GDP. Unfortunately, neither fact speaks to whether this production is sufficient to sustain the country’s teeming hordes. From the USDA’s foreign agriculture service report on Nigeria for 2009, Executive Summary:
Nigeria, Africa’s most populous nation (146 million), is a food deficit country. Formally a net food exporter, Nigeria’s subsistence agriculture can no longer supply the needs of its growing population.
The report continues in the section on food aid:
Nigeria has been a food aid recipient, with rice, soybean meal and skim milk powder having been monetized under USDA food aid programs in the past few years. No issues have arisen as a result of biotechnology and food aid. Nigeria is no longer a recipient of USDA food aid programs.
So while Nigeria can not support its own food requirements, it is merely a former and future charity case, rather than a current one.
As for what whites provided and what they did not, that issue has been delved into on this site with great alacrity on both sides. Though I think you’d witness about 150 million confused black Nigerians if suddenly their cars, computers, cell phones, electrical substations, and petro-rigs went poof.
your irrelevant tripe about "superior white institutions
It may be irrelevant to you Billy, but it’s obviously not irrelevant to the Nigerians. Those same Nigerians who come to White western institutions from across the world at huge expense and remain ensconced within their halls until their fingernails breakoff as they are finally dragged out the front door. I don’t have to say the white universities are superior—the Nigerians state the case plainly by their actions.
…the same selectivity in immigration applies to Asians
Who cares? That wasn’t the debate. Decamp to some website frequented by Asians and explain to them how and why Nigerians, with their 67 IQ and $2,400 PCGDP are superior to Japanese, with their 105 IQ and $33,900 PCGDP. Be sure to mention that “Nigerians score higher than Asians in education rates.” I’ll listen for the gales of laughter from here.
As for your concluding implication (if I am to read it as such) that Nigerians excel at a greater rate than American blacks. That’s a low bar to hurdle, though again you simply aren’t grasping this: the Nigerians you are using for comparison exist on the right flank of their country’s bell curve and do not represent any larger cohort of superior black Nigerians.
You’ll now either accede to the obvious or you’ll retort that black astronauts have more Phds per capita than Hondurans.
@ Anon
@ Porter
"I don’t care if Nigeria’s economy doubled from one stale biscuit to two."
You seemed to gloss over the part where I said Nigerias economy (and per capita income) is doubling every 5 years. Do you even know what that means?
Let me help you: it means from 2010 to 2015 per capita income from double from $2400 to $4800 (the current level of China). And from $4800 to $9,600 and so on. Had you done simple arithmetic you would have known they will rapidly become one of the top economies in the world in the next 30 years. Get a clue.
"Nigeria has been a food aid recipient, with rice, soybean meal and skim milk powder having been monetized under USDA food aid programs in the past few years. No issues have arisen as a result of biotechnology and food aid. Nigeria is no longer a recipient of USDA food aid programs."
Again reading comprehension. It says Nigeria "is no longer a recipient of food aid", so what makes you think they will go back to receiving food aid anytime soon when their economy is doubling every 5 years? Am I missing something here?
My point stands, they are able (and will continue to be able to) produce their own food. You have no point.
"It may be irrelevant to you Billy, but it’s obviously not irrelevant to the Nigerians. Those same Nigerians who come to White western institutions from across the world at huge expense and remain ensconced within their halls until their fingernails breakoff as they are finally dragged out the front door."
Its irrelevant because whether "whites created" those institutions or not was not the original point you were making (that blacks cannot achieve high education standards). They are. Besides, plenty of dumb and mediocre whites fail or dropout out of those "white institutions" every year. That does'nt seem to bother you.
"Decamp to some website frequented by Asians and explain to them how and why Nigerians, with their 67 IQ and $2,400 PCGDP are superior to Japanese, with their 105 IQ and $33,900 PCGDP. Be sure to mention that “Nigerians score higher than Asians in education rates.” I’ll listen for the gales of laughter from here"
Your completely dropping context now. First, I made no claim that they were "superior" to anyone, simply that their education rates were higher than Asian-Americans. Whats all this about Japan and GDP? Now you making comparisons (with dubious IQ stats no less) between Nigerians in Nigeria and Japanese in Japanese in Japan. Totally out of context for this argument.
"As for your concluding implication (if I am to read it as such) that Nigerians excel at a greater rate than American blacks. That’s a low bar to hurdle "
Haha. The article clearly stated not only are Nigerians more highly educated than American blacks, but also White and Asian Americans. They've not only cleared the hurdle, they are winning the race.
"the Nigerians you are using for comparison exist on the right flank of their country’s bell curve and do not represent any larger cohort of superior black Nigerians."
LOLOL. Ok, then why only 37% (still higher than whites and asians) have bachelors degrees? Why not 80% or even 90%? If they were on some higher end of the "bell curve" They would'nt just stop at 37%. I'm not buying it.
Facts remain. Nigeria's economy continues to boom and double every 5 years. Nigerians in America continue to out-perform pretty much every other group minority or not.
Billy,
Given what I just read, I presume that a handler provides for your feeding and watering. After this I'll take no more of your time or his. You'll forgive me for not addressing all of your points (such as they are) but I'm no longer inclined to sift through the debris of your incoherence.
Nigeria will be one of the top economies in the world in 30 years...Do you even know what that means?
Oh I certainly do know what that means Billy. It means that you yourself represent the left flank of Nigeria's 67 IQ bell curve. So you believe that not only will Nigeria's economy double every five years, but that it's per person output will also double. And you believe this will transpire into perpetuity. Here's how that would appear:
2010: $2,400 (Nigeria)
2015: $4,800 (Syria)
2020: $9,600 (Tunisia)
2025: $19,200 (Hungary)
2030: $38,400 (Iceland)
2035: $76,800 (Luxembourg)
2040: $153,600 (Highest standard of living in the world)
2045: $307,200 (Krypton)
2050: $614,400 (United Federation of Planets)
2055: $1,228,800 ...
3000: 629 million+ per capita income.
Further comment withheld.
"Given what I just read, I presume that a handler provides for your feeding and watering. After this I'll take no more of your time or his. You'll forgive me for not addressing all of your points (such as they are) but I'm no longer inclined to sift through the debris of your incoherence."
Translation: I can't with argue the facts you've presented. I can't argue that Nigerians have one of the highest education rates in the US. I'm a hopeless racist clown. I give up. :)
"Oh I certainly do know what that means Billy. It means that you yourself represent the left flank of Nigeria's 67 IQ bell curve. So you believe that not only will Nigeria's economy double every five years, but that it's per person output will also double. And you believe this will transpire into perpetuity. Here's how that would appear:"
I actually made no claim that "it would continue into perpetuity". I said at the current rate for the next 30 years it would become on of the top economies in the world. Given their huge market, oil reserves and educated diaspora its more than possible for them to do so. Ofcourse they can't maintain those rates of growth indefinitely, as their economy will naturally slow as it matures into a developed country.
I've had enough of your evasions, misrepresentations and other nonsense. You've already conceded defeat by failing to show (i.e. facts) why I am wrong (and instead resorted to personal attacks). I've addressed every one of your non-arguments. You lose.
Billy, you've repeatedly proven yourself the worst kind of imbecile--the kind who doesn't realize he's an imbecile.
yeah black people are cool but around where im from they steal way to much to the point i had to cut black friends that i actually like.. because of the friends they bring to parties. note i said around here. demographics people.. but still.. ehh..
once what seems like the majority of black culture stops idolizing drug dealers, theives, pimps, and violent offenders.. i will maybe think about trusting one. untill then, black people seem generally bad natured.. like caged up animals that were never meant to live in a white environment, and are bitter and constantly lashing out because of this.
i wrote the last two slightly offensive comments, and i would like you all to know im not a racist white person. im a white person that is trying to get the black community to get its head on its shoulders..stop the ignorance, stop the waka flakas and super stupid fruity gucci's. im sick of mr. steal yo girlfriend.. and the murderer being the cool kid in school. (dc local)HELP
As a black male, I am left speechless by these blogs. Are they meant to facilitate racial harmony or denigrate a fraction of the American population? I am not happy with how some different members of some different ethnicities behave and think, but I find it disingenuous to classify a set of people as behaving as the whole. I have, especially while traveling, come across individuals from all backgrounds, whether Asian, Caucasian, African-American, Haitian, Greek, Jewish, Italian, Dutch, Norwegian, Texan, poor, rich, Jamaican, Redneck, and/or Latino behave in a manner unbecoming of a sane, rational human being. What I refuse to do, however, is classify their background as the reason they behave as such. It not only limits my view of the world, but it effectually discredits any attempts of educating my mind I have made in the past. My experiences with other backgrounds, whether it be from traveling or interacting in events of diversity has removed the idea of classification. I see each person as an individual. Though multiple examples exist of American Caucasians stealing, raping, denigrating, and mimicking, all for different reasons, other ethnicities' strengths, I would be nonetheless of a bigot to classify "them all" according to the behavior of some, even if it were a majority. I thank God every day for the examples of black, African-American people who strive to become better people. As a member of this minority, I still do not badger, separate myself from, or denigrate the many examples of black people who do bad things. There are examples in every race. I want to be a part of the solution not a part of the problem that this country is known for. Lest not forget the past, I had to work harder to get to where I am. Of course, that statement will be used by a narrow-minded user of this blog to state that why can't young black men do the same. Well, I had mentors, of all ethnicities, nationalities, religions, and of both genders, assist me. My dad left me, but my mom stood around proud and strong. She married another black man, who became my new role model. Many black men lack the support I once had. If the negative writers of this blog would be bold enough to step out and mentor, rather than use words of hate, this world could be different. Yet, I sense it is easier and less humanly to destroy with words than help with thoughts and ideas. Each person should not be blamed for the actions of others with similar backgrounds. For years, white America was seen as racist and bigots, yet a few good people saw it not fit to succumb to the thoughts of the masses. They made a difference...
"I knew a Latino girl"?
I think you will find she is a Latina if she is a girl.
"If the negative writers of this blog would be bold enough to step out and mentor, rather than use words of hate, this world could be different."
and if blacks could live up to their parental duties ... .
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