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It's not fiction.
The book offers a look at various conspiracies [unsubstantiated] that permeate throughout the black community, placing the blame for black dysfunction on "organized anti-black conspiracies [that] threaten the communal well-being and, in particular, the individual bodies of blacks." (p. 3)
Hilariously, the book points out that many of the massive black race riots in the 1960s had their origins in rumors of some combination of police brutality or a white backlash against the black community (in Chicago in 1967, a black race riot started when it was alleged - and spread uncorroborated throughout the black community - that white boys had pushed a black man in front of an elevated train, p. 53).
Below are rumors and unconfirmed stories that once circulated throughout the black community to try and explain why various maladies befell their community.
You can't make this stuff up.
Text #1: Church's [fast food chicken franchise] is owned by the Ku Klux Klan [KKK], and they put something in it to make black men sterile.
Text #2: I remember hearing that the killings [of 28 African Americans] in Atlanta were related to genocide of the black race. The FBI was responsible and using the bodies for interferon research.
Text #3: I have heard that US scientists created AIDS in a laboratory (possibly as a weapon to use against enemy in the event of war), and they needed to test the virus, so they go to Africa, as they [Africans] are expendable , introduce the disease, and then are unable to control its spread to Europeans and Americans.
Text #4: Troop [a popular brand of athletic wear] is owned by the KKK. They are using the money they make from the products to finance the lawsuit that they lost to the black woman whose son was killed by the Klan.
Text #5: Reebok is made in South Africa. All of the money they make off of those shoes goes to support whites in South Africa.
Text #6: The production and mass distribution of drugs is an attempt by the white man to keep blacks who are striving to better themselves from making it in the world. So many blacks take drugs in order to find release and escape from the problems they face in life. By taking drugs, blacks are killing themselves, and by selling them they are bringing about the imminent destruction of their race. Overall, the white man has conspired to wipe out the black population by using them [blacks] to destroy themselves.
Text #7: Tropical Fantasy [a fruit-flavored soft drink] is made by the KKK. There is a special ingredient in it that make black men sterile. (p. 2-3)
Seriously.
So here's the question: Patricia A. Turner book was published 20 years earlier. What new urban legends/rumors have circulated within the black community to replace the ones mentioned above?
More to point -- what type of rumors/urban legends could be created today, which would immediately find fertile ground for growth within the black community?
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Their biggest urban legend is that Obama is incredibly brilliant.
From South Africa. Condoms are supplied to blacks by the health department to slow the spread of aids. Secret reason - because whites want blacks to stop having children.
While true that any white with a brain would be overjoyed if they would stop breeding like bacteria, they don't have any say in government as that is black run.
Black 'n' Mild cigars have a layer of paper in them between the shell and the tobacco. The black folks "freak" the cigar by removing the tobacco and this paper, then replace the tobacco within the cigar.
It's because white folks know they like B'n'M's, and we've poisoned this paper to kill them off.
You can't make this stuff up.
(1st post, btw)
IP
While I don't think they started this one a good many blacks seem to believe that the moon landings were faked.
I once watched a documentary on cannibalism in Africa in which one African stated on camera that whites didn't want blacks eating each other because whites wanted to eat them. This was met with total agreement by the other blacks in the group- one of whom claimed to have found a black hand in a can of corned beef.
That kind of rumor wouldn't work in the USA but maybe someone could spread the rumor that 40's contain white urine and menthol cigarettes have chemicals in them that make black people go blind. Just target the most popular items and the rumors would spread like wildfire.
First, how do Churchs Chicken eating, therefore sterile, black men then proceed to propagate with all the ability of their r selective, quantity, not quality, gene pool?
Second, aids originated in Africa when a black male had sex with a lower primate. I would normally think bestiality repulsive, but then I think, perhaps he understandably mistook the lower primate for his wife.
In any event, the world can thank blacks for bringing aids from the lower primates to the humans.
Ironically, the aids that black people brought into the world of humans has cost white people untold amounts, billions of dollars I would guess, to scientifically find a cure and or prevention.
But why let the truth ruin such a perfectly wonderful illusion.
Blacks may be less intelligent than white liberals, but they are just as immature. Thanks.
I would guess that many blacks believe that high rates of black incarceration are because of white racist laws designed to hurt blacks.
The fact that such absurd beliefs are widespread in black communities can be chalked up to two simple factors. First, it demonstrates a natural tendency for people to attribute failure to external factors beyond their control, rather than internal factors. If most of the people in your group (blacks) are unemployed, in prison, living in poverty, addicted to drugs, etc. etc., it's a lot easier to place the blame on "white racism" (an external cause, implying that one is not at fault) than it is to place the blame on one's own irresponsibility, stupidity, incompetency, etc. Hence, conspiracy theories serve an important function for blacks because they enable black people to continue to perceive themselves in a favorable light, no matter how unrealistic. Think about it...when was the last time you EVER met a black person who WASN'T a self-centered, self-absorbed, narcissistic fuckhead? When was the last time you met a black person who suffered from "low self-esteem?" I'm guessing the answer is never. Belief in these retarded conspiracy theories is a major reason why.
The second reason why conspiracy beliefs are widespread among blacks is simply because black people are completely incapable of any form of rational, logical though processes. For virtually all blacks, judgment and decisions (even those that could have potentially life-changing ramifications) are based on "feelings" rather than any examination of the facts pertaining to something. And yet, INCREDIBLY, there are white people who actually WANT to be governed by blacks (e.g., any white liberal city or state that elected a black mayor or governor).
This country is doomed.
All this hysteria about mythical threats to blacks, and yet not one peep from them about Margaret Sanger's dream of eugenics made real in Planned Parenthood - upon which the other day was called down a blessing from God, by our very own Black-In-Chief.
The extent of my Negro fagigue is so severe that I don't give a fig about ANYTHING they have to say anymore. NOTHING. ZILCH. I am actively looking for a place to move that will, long-range, not be affected by the scourge of the black orc population.
Another commonly sighted black myth is the invention of the traffic lights,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_light#History
by somebody called garrett morgan - yet a quick check of wikipedia proves that 3 people all white came up with various versions before he did.
Its like Blackberry claiming they invented the mobile because they made various updates to it 30 years later.
Let's not forget the most important conspiracy by Whites that must at all costs be kept secret. The Africans must never learn that slavery was put in place in order to prevent Africa from rising and conquering the world. We had to reduce the population of Africa and enslave its greatest minds or else Africa would have assumed its rightful place. If ever Africans from around the world were to return to Africa we of European descent would be doomed. The second most important kept secret is how Whites by inter-breeding with Africans are diluting the pure African bloodlines. These conspiracies must be kept absolutely secret so please don't repeat them.
More wonderful black invention myths
http://www.toqonline.com/blog/black-invention-myths/.
The internet is wonderful instantly you can make these idiots look like the cretins that they are when they spout this crap.
White people need to rediscover the backbone that enabled them to build the modern world. So we can expel all these non whites and immigrants out of our countries.
Here's my conspiracy:
Ever notice how the US demands majority (racial, ethnic, religious) rule all over the world-- Kosovo (Muslims), Iraq (Shi'ites), Afghanistan (Pashtuns (Taliban)), South Africa and Southern Rhodesia (Blacks) and yet demands minority rule at home?
Heaven help the Afrikaaners if they ever decide to break away and establish their own homeland. (I smell American napalm in the air.)
In the early 90's, the Blacks I know were convinced that the sailing ship on the Snapple tea bottle labels was a slave ship...
And when I worked in AIDS organizations, it was common to hear from Blacks that the US government has created the virus and infected Africans with it to destroy Blacks in America...1/3 of Blacks, according to polls in those days, believed that.
Black Muslims teach that schools in America deliberately teach Negro children the wrong information in primary schools, to make them appear stupid. They say these kids are taught 2 x 2 = 3 and the moon is called the sun and a cow makes a dog barking sound. That is during 6th grade, if they go to high school, they are taught that 5 x 5 = 18 and that there is a peaceful hip-hop kingdom where all food and housing is free in a far away city called Chacargo.
They believe this is why so many negroes have IQs of 75.
White Rumor:
When I was a young boy, my mother would tell me that if I kept doing a certain thing that I would go blind. Well, I finally stopped doing it when I started wearing eyeglasses.
Maybe it was true after all. I am 67 y/o and still wear glasses, but not blind.
This seems like a slow news day, so allow me to share my conclusions following my review of the Section 8 propaganda I referenced earlier, located in two separate publications, both of which can be located here. I apologize in advance for the long post, but I promise it’s worth your while!
FYI, the premise of both of these articles is to address the widespread concerns raised by the 2008 article in Atlantic Monthly regarding the geographic expansion of violent crime in Memphis, which I know has been widely discussed at SBPDL. For those that are unaware of it, it is located here. Since this article was based both on science, as well as first person accounts of actual violence and destruction caused by the relocation of blacks into formerly safe areas of Memphis, DWLs found it necessary to quickly respond in discrediting its conclusions in the arena of statistics. Conveniently, the TNB that destroys communities – selling drugs, loitering, harassment of white residents, property that cannot be sold because potential buyers observe the environment and immediately leave the area, drunken screaming and fighting at 4 am, unattended children running wild, etc. These things simply do not exist, and, thus, have no quantifiable effect on society.
In fact, as a special treat for all SBPDL readers, I have prepared a pictorial essay of my personal, tranquil and peaceful experiences with Section 8 diversity for all to enjoy, located here. It’s a 17MB file, so give it a minute do download. I think you’ll find it worthwhile…
In reviewing the articles, I believe the following conclusions are of primary interest to race realists:
1. Both pieces (the shorter of which is really a summary of the larger study) rely on the unstated, but painfully obvious assumption that all races are equal in every way. Conveniently, race is never mentioned. The only exception to this is the term “vulnerable,” which is used repeatedly in different contexts (vulnerable neighborhoods, vulnerable residents), to mean black.
2. They completely underestimate or totally ignore the real-world impact to quality of life and property values associated with Section 8, based on statistics, alone. It’s a complete denial of reality. Essentially, because there were no statistical instances where the introduction of Section 8 recipients to a “community” was immediately followed by a 5000% increase in violent crime within one week, that there is no negative impact, at all. The aforementioned TNB does not exist, so it cannot have any negative impact.
3. A common theme in the articles is the utopian fallacy of “mixed-income developments.” In addition to being straight out of Agenda 21, they see these projects, which have been demonstrable disasters in city after city across the country, as a solution to former public housing projects. It goes like this - when public housing is torn down (with billions in federal HUD grants allocated to tear down these failed edifices of social engineering, also constructed with billions of taxpayer dollars), residents are temporarily relocated, the “gentrified” site is revitalized with high-end, live/work/shop developments like Atlanta’s Atlantic Station. This is meant to attract “more affluent” residents. Once everything is up
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and running, the Section 8 cancer is then injected into the otherwise healthy organism via returning the displaced residents into the portion of units that were reserved for their ilk. We frequently talk about the 20% tipping point (it’s probably much lower), which is immediately achieved, and INSTANTLY, you have the hellhole scenario that White Mom has described for us. Thus, White Mom leaves, taking her hard earned $2K/month rent with her, and the looting scheme where productive white citizens like her finance the ghetto thugs next door implodes. In fact, the squids probably never wanted to rent to white people in the first place – they wanted them to buy, thus making white flight much more difficult. However, with the housing market in the toilet, the squids ultimately had to accept rental income in order that the entire scam not collapse before construction could even be completed. There are literally beautiful high-rise condos in downtown in Atlanta that the white people that can actually afford them wouldn’t even consider investing in with the exception of the most deluded DWL. Atlantic Station quickly became a nightmare of drugs, crime and TNB. (As an aside, with her endlessly varying monikers, my personal favorite was “White Mom - living among the turds.” However, I readily admit to being very easily amused.)
4. In their references to Atlanta, all emphasis seems to be placed on City of Atlanta, at least half of which is largely a no-go zone for white people. There is no distinction drawn for the sprawling suburbs, which is where the vast majority of the population in the metro area resides. So, if you move the negress T’waneesha and her brood of niglets via 4 different bucks out of Techwood Homes, and relocate them south of I-20 in another all-black hellhole, the resulting crime statistics will be non-consequential, as the new area is already a cesspool of black on black crime, with daily shootings, drug dealing and various assorted TNB. Now if you transplant one across the street from where I used to live, and what I had to tolerate, which was so severe that I determined it was better to destroy my credit than have to be armed at all times when walking our dog, I believe the results would have been more telling. Which is precisely why then focused only on the City of Atlanta.
Finally, allow me to conclude my summary by sharing some select quotes from the propaganda, itself:
*“The $6 billion HOPE VI program facilitated the demolition of hundreds of distressed inner-city public housing developments and allowed housing authorities to replace them with a combination of new, mixed-income communities and vouchers. Underlying this transformation was the hope that public housing residents would benefit both socially and economically from living in more diverse, higher-opportunity neighborhoods… [Emphasis added.] Although not all these hopes have been realized in every public housing revitalization project, a large body of research shows that former residents are generally living in better housing in safer neighborhoods™ where they experience less stress and anxiety.” [Isn’t that nice? $6 billion in white, taxpayer money so that these diverse people of color are not stressed or anxious.]
“And third, some public housing residents or their associates could simply bring crime with them, essentially displacing problems like drug trafficking and gang activity from one neighborhood to another.” [No Shit?!]
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“…the CHA [Chicago Housing Authority] offered residents relocation assistance and mobility counseling to encourage them to move to “opportunity areas” that offer better schools™ and services…”
“Among the key initiatives were a number of policy changes in AHA’s leasing standards and practices, and the adoption of strategies intended to enable families to use their vouchers in a broader range of neighborhoods.” [Emphasis added.]
“…about 10,000 households were relocated [by the AHA], and the vast majority used vouchers to move to the private market.” [Emphasis added.]
“Even in communities with few relocated households, residents claimed that CHA families
brought new problems with them, especially criminal behavior.” [These unsubstantiated claims simply cannot be true.]
“…in a relatively small number of areas in Chicago and Atlanta that received more than a few relocated households, crime decreased less than it would have if no former public housing residents had moved in.”
“Crime would have been slightly lower in destination neighborhoods without relocated households.” [OK, these last two are my favorites, as they are pure DWL bullshit. This is exactly the same arguments employed regarding the failed Stimulus™ bill, after which, when no jobs were actually created, the administration shifted the focus to the enigmatic, completely unquantifiable concept of jobs that were “saved.”]
“Our findings clearly indicate a much smaller impact of public housing transformation on destination neighborhood crime rates than popular accounts imply. Nevertheless, they suggest that there are negative impacts for some neighborhoods when relocated households take up residence in them.”
“A neighborhood with a moderate density of relocated households compared with a similar neighborhood with no relocated households would have a violent crime rate that is 11 percent higher on average in Atlanta and 13 percent higher on average in Chicago.”
“Finally, the tracts in both cities that experienced the greatest impact on crime associated with relocated households are neighborhoods that were already vulnerable [majority black], with high rates of poverty and crime before the arrival of public housing relocation households. In other words, our story is not the popular version of previously stable communities spiraling into decline because of public housing residents moving in, but rather a story of poor families moving into areas that were already struggling.” [Lift rug, sweep under.]
“This analysis shows a similar pattern in both Chicago and Atlanta: not the simplistic relationship implied by media accounts [aka reality], but rather a complex picture of declining crime rates in both cities, a small net decrease in violent crime citywide associated with the
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transformation efforts, but effects in some neighborhoods—those that received more than a few relocated households—that suggest that crime would have been lower in those neighborhoods had there been no public housing transformation. [bullshit interpretation – enter Section 8, crime increases.] Overall, our findings show that a substantial majority of neighborhoods in both cities were able to absorb public housing relocation voucher households without any adverse effect on neighborhood conditions. [Wait, so which is it??] This research raises many questions, most notably why the presence of even relatively small clusters of relocated households in the destination neighborhoods is associated with statistically significant differences in crime rates during that quarter, on average, compared to tracts without any relocation voucher holders, while the presence of traditional voucher holders seems to have little to no impact.” [Answer – black people.]
“…prohibitions on the use of vouchers in certain neighborhoods that already have high
concentrations of assisted housing and/or requirements that they can only be used in
more “opportunity rich” neighborhoods; [Thus, a proposed government initiative to FORCE Section 8 into majority white areas. This would be government-mandated destruction of all areas currently livable by whites in all metro areas, facilitated entirety by the Executive branch, under the guise of the HUD’s administrative regulation.]
“…requirements for all landlords to participate in the voucher program upon request” [And there it is. Using the police powers of government to force you to rent to groids and turds, and participate in the ‘program.’” Unequal protection? Unconstituational much? Marked for extermination, perhaps?]
“…coordination with local law enforcement to ensure that patrol officers and narcotics and
gang units are aware of the neighborhoods receiving relocated households to take action
in preventing any violence that might result.” [Wait! I’m confused! Why would this be necessary given the overall conclusion that there is no association between crime and Section 8 recipients?]
Go Section 8! It’s great!
GG
A good black legend could be a takeoff of the recent Mayan calendar prophecy that was supposed to forecast the end of the world. Just claim the pyramids, which as we all know they believe were built by blacks, contain encrypted prophecies giving the date of when blacks shall take over the world due to all others being wiped out by an epidemic, comet, or other cataclysm. Whites know this and are conspiring to keep blacks from uncovering the truth.
Vanishing sex organ manias are popular in Africa so just dream up something that whites are secretly putting something in food or drink to do so. Perhaps cell phones sold to blacks are of a special kind that emit high levels of radiation intended to kill them. The possibilities are endless.
There is a special ingredient in it that make black men sterile. ....what a great idea!
The Atlanta child murders were an attempt to start a race war, and the FBI framed Wayne Williams a black man to avoid the inevitable riots that would have occurred if it was found out that whites were behind it. Years later hollywood took the theory and ran with it making a fictional movie bringing the whole investigation into question. The black community took the movie as a documentary. You will find it hard to find black man or woman in Atlanta today who believes Williams is guilty.
Mich Mike
Reading Jay Santos' comments above reminded me of the following joke:
A kindergarten teacher asks her class the question, "Class, does anyone know what kind of a sound a pig makes?" Immediately, li'l Tyrone Jackson jumps to his feet and screams, "Freeze, motherf****r!"
I heard it through the grapevine that Jim Jones is still servin' up 'purple drank' laced with poison skittles from da grave, ya'll.
Don't underestimate the power of purple. For black folks, it means you're royally fucked.
The nanny-staters want our white children to be a part of the 'collective' villagey shit. Fox News: Did anyone see that white family's baby being taken away because the newborn had a heart condition and they wanted a second opinion before they decided on surgery for their blue-eyed little darling? Yet, you have Dr. Gosnell slicing and dicing up black babies at Ye Old Abortion clinic and nobody gives a flying fuck.
White people can't be shoved into African tribal thinking no matter how hard they try to force it. It's egregious how militant these 'child protective' services are towards whites but give blacks and their typical dysfunction a fucking pass.
This is unacceptable.
-=Northwest YT=-
From the rainbow collective worker's paradise of Amerika: A halfbreed bastard son of a communist gangbang whore loves him some black people.
Let me see, a few favorites I have heard when around monkeys and monkey shines.
Black man invented the UFO, but the White man stole it.
Black man invented the washing machine, then he realized that he hadnt invented electricity yet, so he left it in the desert for the White man to find.
And my personal favorite, "The white man invented da stupid pill and gots all blacks to take it, dats why we dont be memberin our glorious past. Gnomesaying?"
Honorable mention Snap, Crackle, and Pop from Rice crispies are all gang mebers because they wear flags. (Bandanas.)
BV
Today's new "rumor": mailmen won't deliver in black neighborhoods because they are scared for their lives.
Oh wait its not a rumor, its TRUE!
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/brooklyn/mailmen_deliver_us_from_evil_9TJh9RgtiTv1FGwOw05MOI
When I was a young child in California we had a huge black playground attendant.She seemed like a monster with dyed orange hair and no kidding a gold tooth with a diamond in the middle. In reality she was very nice to the children as I remember it was almost as she was on our level. She told us many of these "truths". My favorite was that Hubbabubba Bubble gum had spider eggs in it.
There is a common belief among Black males that menstrual blood has some kind of magic properties. In particular, that women will use it to bewitch men. That's why some Black males will refuse to eat spaghetti, because of that "red sauce".
Back in 1988, Massachusetts Governor and Presidential candidate had Jesse Jackson over for a home-cooked meal, prepared by the Missus herself, in hopes of persuading Jesse to help get the Black vote out. Not knowing their man, they served him spaghetti. Jesse declined and sent out for fried chicken. This is true, I read it in the L.A. Times the day after. (Just the facts, no mention of "red sauce" or voodoo.) I suppose it was too good a story for the newsmen to pass up, even if it did make a Black male look foolish.
@ Mitch Mike
The truth about the 'lanta chile murders is that the mother of one of the early victims screamed "serial killer" and after a while Wayne "Be Famous" Williams started murdering on spec - in the hopes he could get a book deal.
Meanwhile, no one noticed that the chile murder rate was more or less constant.
A CNN host has just been enriched by diversity. You'll notice no mention of race in this account but in others she describes the teenagers as black.
http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/03/cnn-host-i-was-robbed-in-atlanta/
As a followup to my previous post, how about the rumor that ObamaPhones are rigged to emit 30X the normal amount of microwave radiation and are designed to kill the user within 5 years without anyone catching on. It's a way to secretly commit genocide.
Idiot here. I neglected to give the name of the Massachusetts Governor and 1988 Presidential candidate: Michael Dukakis.
OT. Anybody know the race of the 17 year old who sucker punched a Mexican soccer ref and killed him, last week in California?
OFF topic, BUT:
CNN Reporter Attacked and Robbed by Atlanta Negro..
Wonder is she'll remain a lib after this dose of reality?
In South Africa these Gentlemen of Colour believe that raping a virgin will cure AIDS.
Trial junkie here. The typical DWL has no idea of this black trait.
A constant belief that extends over the decades is that "they" are always out to bring prominent black men down.
This means a belief that a massive conspiracy by whites deliberately framed O.J. Simpson. Now I would point out that Simpson was the most popular pro athlete of his time, black or white. The only famous white athlete post-WWII who was more popular was Mickey Mantle, though not be much.
Why would someone as popular as O.J. be framed? "To take a black man down," I was told by black co-workers in 1994-95.
Tiger Woods brought out the same fantasies.
The bottom line is the self-serving reason for all such rumors, fantasies, etc. They are excuses for never-ending failure.
Over the years, I've heard at least 2 blacks wondering why (i.e. complain) February, the shortest month, was picked to celebrate Black history. So if I've heard it twice, chances are there are many thousand who believe there was some racist motive in choosing a 28day month.
Which makes me hate Leap Year even more...
Funny thing about inventions is that once something has been invented there is no 'stealing' of the invention. The knowledge isn't lost to the inventor because someone else used that knowledge. For blacks to say that white men 'stole' inventions and the blacks no longer have knowledge of the invention is in and of itself pretty funny.
From what I gleaned on news and TV back in the day on Wayne Williams was that not only did law enforcement find evidence, hair in his car of one of the victims, if I remember correctly, but also and more convincing, the murders stopped once the law bagged him.
By the way I was 25 at the time, '79, I remember thinking "if this is ever a white TS is gonna HTF.
Muhammad Ali offered a 10,000 dollar reward.
Also as I recall, in the mid 70s the FBI had just started profiling and further profiled the perp as a young black between 25 and 30, Wayne was 25 as I recall. Further as I recall, the black community refuted this, seizing their opportunity to promote their ideological illusion of black failure due to whitey's persecution of blacks, and claimed they believed whitey was the culprit.
Lastly, serial murderers have consistently . at least till fairly recently, I no longer watch TV, targeted their own kind.
Once the FBI bags a perp, one can bet a five dollar gold piece they got the culprit. The FBI is impeccable in their pursuit of "their man". Thanks.
Their biggest urban legend is that Obama is incredibly brilliant
He probably is, compared to the average 85 IQ black. But that is still not their biggest urban legend. That would be the meme that Michelle Obama is beautiful and stylish.
I heard that God created white people and monkeys descended from groids.
KKK researchers need to get back to the lab. Those sterility compounds are definitely not working.
Also glad that those proceeds from Reebok led to the successful continuation of Apartheid. What? It didn't?
The conspiracies are working because they're not working, right?
Many of them believe that they might die if they leave a tip in a restaurant, others are convinced it's bad luck to shut the hell up in a movie theater.
Thanks for this fine and informative SBPDL blog.
Well, to be fair to the black community...
Two things on healthcare. For one, for over 40 years the Federal Government ran the Tuskegee experiment, telling illiterate or poor black men in the south that they had "bad blood," instead of treating and curing their syphilis. Now, if they'd do an experiment like that, then other things related to AIDS do not become so far-fetched. This is also the reason I don't trust Obamacare: we're ALL going to be treated like poor, illiterate Southern blacks now, especially whites outside the power structure.
Second, I think it was measles or smallpox or polio vaccine that was cultured for administration to Africans in kidney tissue drawn from chimps. Not saying it happened, but one theory is that AIDS was cultured along with the vaccine for polio.
You can, of course, Google either of those.
By the way, on the sterility thing: one plan that the Nazis had for emigrating Jews was to place radioactive materials at the genital level so as to sterilize the men. They eventually considered it impractical and went on to other methods not requiring the emigration of Jews.
I can't believe that they missed the nigger rumor from the early 90's about Snapple having the magical ingredient that makes bucks sterile.
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@ Gwinnett Gladiator:
Dude I used to live in Snellville and I can totally agree with you. My house was burglarized twice. I worked in Lithonia (CAT Scan Tech), and I swear that there was a "Put Up With Stupid-Nigger Bullshit" stipend built into my pay rate.
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I'm glad that I moved out of that shithole. My libtarded ex-wife still lives down there. She's been mugged twice now by that "Vibrant Diversity" since I moved home, and still clings to her libtardism. I guess 5 years of brainwashing at a University will severely blind you.
Will Smith (Fresh Prince of Bel Aire) said on camera once that AIDS was a government conspiracy to kill blacks.
Even if it were true it wouldn't be that hard to counteract if blacks had any personal will power whatsoever.
Don't shoot drugs into your veins and don't have sex with anything and everything that has a flesh hole. It's really just 2 simple steps to a guaranteed victory against the evil world controlling elite if you're black.
Re the Snapple:
Blacks certainly believed the rumor that the circled K on Snapple bottles stood for KKK. The media actually started that rumor, mainly because Snapple was a sponsor of both Rush Limbaugh and Howard Stern at the time.
A really wise man told me this a long time ago: The more ridiculous is an idea, the more insane is an idea, the more improbable is an idea, the more likely it is that it will be accepted as common currency in the black community. The relationship is linear.
Right on. I am a former teacher and school counselor. I do related work now, I have said a number of times on this blog that CPS is an arm out to extort money from middle class whites and it will now be a tool to come after white families.
Know this;
1) if CPS comes knocking, take pictures of your kid in their presence to document their is no bruising. Make sure the CPS people see you do this- they will know that you 'know' their game
2) you refer them to talk to YOUR pediatricians etc, / Never use theirs and don't let them bully you into talking to 'their' doctors who are of course paid to be yes men
CPS is bad. It has prevented the black family from disciplining their kids and it has destroyed them. Nothing left now so they let the blacks wild out, .., but whitey, there is money there.
White Mom in VA
and yet not one peep from them about Margaret Sanger's dream of eugenics made real in Planned Parenthood - upon which the other day was called down a blessing from God, by our very own Black-In-Chief.
The only complaints I've seen about Kermit Gosnell have come from White conservatives. These people obviously cannot See... yet.
The only exception to this is the term “vulnerable,” which is used repeatedly in different contexts (vulnerable neighborhoods, vulnerable residents), to mean black.
Other interchangeable euphemisms are "distressed" and "struggling". Why don't we just substitute "infested", and make this inerchangeable with "fumigatable"? If we fumigated these "vulnerable" neighborhoods with e.g. chlorine gas, the pests causing the problems would be eradicated and the problems would go away... wouldn't they?
If someone could arrange to put e.g. methyl mercury into things consumed by Black people, they could be removed from the problem population within months. This is obvious, yet it has not been done: ergo, the conspiracy does not exist. Dammit!
you have Dr. Gosnell slicing and dicing up black babies at Ye Old Abortion clinic and nobody gives a flying fuck.
Black people hardly care if they're shooting each other, so why should we give a flying fuck? Gosnell cut the population of future shooters. It's all good... isn't it?
Thank you Gwinnett Gladiator. It is amazing how underhanded this all is and how whites self determination is undermined.
I feel like the studies and info you presented here echo my story the past few years. How can you find out if you have or will have Section 8 neighbors? By law a realtor could not answer you if you asked., am I right here?
In DC, there are a great deal of dumb DWL people who have bought in neighborhoods that appear to be turning over, but in reality, this dog and poney show is temporary and the gentrification will not 'stick'. Why? You can paint a turd gold but it is still a turd.
I have advocated for people to stop paying their mortgages here at SBPDL. Really, whites should renig on paying all bills, and if they can get away with it, stop paying rent if they live in a mixed income community.
The only way we stop the cancer is by bankrupting the system. I have posted this on Amren as well. It is the only measure that will work. We are being scammed out of our life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness.
I want to ask you Gladiator. Do you know of Amren meet ups? I also want to start an advocacy group for working class white women. How would you go about doing this?
Annie Oakley I hope you will join us
White Mom in VA
Completely off topic, but I took a trip through Wenatchee, WA recently. This small city is in north central Washington state. The town was founded pretty recently, 1890 or so and on the new railroad at the time between MN and Seattle. It's a nice area, economy based largely on tree fruit; apple and pears. Our hotel had only white folks working there, reception and housekeeping. We stopped at a car wash and all the guys working there were white high school kids. It's an agricultural area and there are a large number of Mexican or Central Americans. I'm guessing the native, non-immigrant population just isn't there to support apple and pear crops every year. Bunch of reasons those American workers aren't there, but that's not the point, they simply aren't there to care for apple trees and pick apples every fall.
As much as I hate to admit it, and I really do, there's probably a need for immigrants. Otherwise a small city like Wenatchee doesn't survive. The problem is that these Washington elites aren't effectively thinking about towns like this, if indeed it is their focus at all. They'll allow anyone into this country, clumping up in LA and other major cities, sucking on the government teat, instead of addressing what are probably legit labor issues in agricultural areas. Their focus is on the political power these people represent and not about solving specific labor issues for the benefit of the country. That would be too complicated, they would actually have to spend time studying the issues. They would actually have to work.
Anyway, I saw just one negro. The guy seemed to be pretty well domesticated, but who knows.
A few years ago, a rumor started that Snapple Iced Tea had a depiction of slave ships on their labels. Of course, it was actually a depiction of the Boston Tea Party (ironically enough, this is before the political TP was tarred as racist.) The company put up token resistance before switching to pictures of fruit.
'A kindergarten teacher asks her class the question, "Class, does anyone know what kind of a sound a pig makes?" Immediately, li'l Tyrone Jackson jumps to his feet and screams, "Freeze, motherf****r!"'
Tyrone and shitavius belong at harvard with prof gates [obongos drinking buddy]and his hiphop musuem!
we can't forget the big CRACK lie. you know the one where the white man/cia started the crack movement in the 1980's. someday it will be told that blacks are just useless and remember these fine words! "when around the blacks, you should never relax!" if it ever gets out that owning up to your kinds fuck-ups are worth money, then it will be long lines at the office that gives out the honesty checks. but like anything else in America that's just wishful thinking. remember to check on white elderly neighbors and GODSPEED/SEGREGATION NOW!!!
A small city like that can survive without Mexicans. I would be that most of those workers are there illegally. That means two things 1) jobs lost for US citizens, and 2) money they make goes back to Mexiho and not into the US economy.
Those orchards could advertise for seasonal workers who are US citizens. Stated just as do, but they make the choice but to out if greed, BUT they and we all pay in the end don't we?
Rumors in the ghetto can be fun - you just need to make sure it's outlandish and YTs fault. I've heard that drugs are to keep blacks addicted and/or in jail. I've heard AIDS was to originally kill the black man but it got messed up and kills whites sometimes. I've also heard that wherever there are fires in the ghetto, it's YT wanting to buy up the property for future development. And blacks won't neuter their animals because whites are always trying to neuter black males. I think it'd be fun to start a rumor that all the free food YT gives the ghetto is tainted and will cause sterility. Why else would we give them free food? And how about starting a rumor that the free 0bama phones have such high radiation that if you keep it in your pocket, it'll make you sterile?
Thankfully I'm not around blacks much but when I am I always listen to their conspiracy beliefs and agree with them and I always leave them with the parting thought that their beliefs are probably just the tip of the iceberg; who knows what else "they" are doing to them.
Mr. Rational said...
Black people hardly care if they're shooting each other, so why should we give a flying fuck? Gosnell cut the population of future shooters. It's all good... isn't it?
I hesitate when people play 'minority report'. An innocent human being is still an innocent human being.
Destiny might be by design in our DNA and perhaps our African brethren are a rotten lot, but, I cannot fathom killing them off just for the sake of getting 'rid' of the problems they create. I have too much conscience for that.
I don't believe in aborting retarded children either. Compassion is part of our empathic nature. When we stop caring for our sick, our old, our young, we stop caring about life in general.
We are better than that kind of evil.
-=Northwest YT=-
Harold- I just told people at the barbershop in the hood. I see what you mean, sorry. They all started begging for money to go back to Africa, and they changed their plans to go rape white women tonight, to avoid that horrible dilution of the wonderful African bloodline. Gosh, I hope they don't tell THEIR friends.
"Black people hardly care if they're shooting each other, so why should we give a flying fuck? Gosnell cut the population of future shooters. It's all good... isn't it?"
It's just another example of egregious liberal hypocrisy and double-standards.
"If Dr. Gosnell had walked into a nursery and shot seven infants with an AR-15, it would be national news and the subject of presidential hand-wringing."
Rep Christopher Smith
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCaaOxqQl18
@White Mom and Gwinnett Gladiator-- I too am looking for a meetup group. I emailed AmRen just yesterday asking if they can point me in the right direction since this isn't exactly something I'll be finding on Atlanta's meetup.com pages.
Keep us informed of any developments as it seems some of us are in closer proximity to each other than we think. Thanks!
I cannot fathom killing them off just for the sake of getting 'rid' of the problems they create. I have too much conscience for that.
But they're doing it to each other, and they barely care. Why should we "oppress" them by "imposing our values on them"?
I don't want to be "rid" of them. I want to be free of them, as a matter of survival.
I don't believe in aborting retarded children either.
I do, emphatically. Out of compassion.
Compassion is part of our empathic nature. When we stop caring for our sick, our old, our young, we stop caring about life in general.
One moral conclusion I came to a long time ago is that if I cannot do right by a child, I should not bring it into the world. If there is some congenital problem like Down syndrome or spina bifida or even a cleft palate which would require many major surgeries to correct imperfectly (I have seen such a case), it is wrong to compound nature's error by imposing such conditions of life on a born child. It is kinder that they not be born. This is doubly so if there is any question of the living conditions of the rest of my family.
It's also kinder to have the illiterate and criminal "fixed" than to let them raise children in chaos and violence. It's kinder for those children, and also for those who would otherwise have to endure the conditions they would have created.
We are better than that kind of evil.
It took hundreds of generations of eugenic trials and suffering to shape the White genome to make us what we are. Now we can accomplish many of the same ends in one generation with no suffering. I think this is the compassionate thing to do.
I had no idea how many crazy conspiracies are prevalent in the black community until I started listening to talk radio on a black owned station in St. Louis several years ago. Between the conspiracy theories and utter contempt for whites, it was truly an enlightening experience.
As much as I hate to admit it, and I really do, there's probably a need for immigrants. Otherwise a small city like Wenatchee doesn't survive.
Seriously, the illegal immigrant thing is recent, who do you think picked the fruit in the 60's? The 50's? the 40's? Regular white families, and their (GASP!) children, would take a few weeks off of school once a year (or twice depending in growing season) to do the harvesting, then get back to their normal jobs. Really, it's not that hard to do.
"Once the FBI bags a perp, one can bet a five dollar gold piece they got the culprit. The FBI is impeccable in their pursuit of "their man"."
That may have been true a few decades ago. I don't think it is true today. Look at the screwups with the anthrax case, Olympic bomber, crime lab contamination, missed 9/11 opportunities. More like Keystone Kops.
Living in the Northwest, I can tell you straight up that these "workers" are illegals. The reason we don't have our White kids picking fruit for their family farms is that the Child Labor laws strictly forbid that kind of work. The FEDGOV would rather shut down a Farm at gunpoint than have the family take in its own crop, even though it forces the farm to use illegal workers, and many times those pickers are underage! Further, "summer vacation" was originally so the kids would be available to hoe and Harvest. Spring break was for planting. Now they can do neither.
This is the level of crazy we have come to, where our "leaders" feel they can micromanage every little family, yet those things that made our Country strong are discarded. Faith, Family, Peace, Ties to the Land. Instead we have negros criminality, hatred of religion, social unrest and Corporate farming.
Welfare for negros is completely unnecessary. They could take every job we have for illegals; Processing chicken, picking tomatoes, apples, pears, etc., and have negros do it for their welfare check., what used to be called "Labor Battalions". Instead we whine about "child Labor Laws" while Shitrovilus and Jaunokeshia go out at night murdering, raping and stealing and beating Whitey.
White kids, who could be learning about running a business, managing labor, quality control, mechanics, farm management and one hundred other subjects spend their time in front of video games (ironically) killing Orcs.
33 million illegals and about 40 million negros destroy our Country with the force of the Federal Government behind them, but it will not always be so. Everything changes and the financial crisis is going to take down a lot of this crap.
This would not be happening it Whites had a Country of their Own.
WhiteMom-I'm in. Paul can give you my email if he wants.
The whiter areas of the country are doing fairly well. This small town I'm in has a few chiropractors and massage therapists who are busy every single day. This tell me the kwans are realizing being medicated isn't working and holistic medicine is far better in many instances.
I only want to be around the 3% whites. The whites like here on SBDL do.
We just went to a tax sale this past week. It was a real eye opener.
If working class whites want to buy properties cheap, they should do their research and go to tax sales.
If anyone wants any more information, I'll gladly make a long post about it.
10 MM Auto:
This would not be happening it Whites had a Country of their Own.
It's a great tag line, which I've even used myself. It got me thinking however. A century ago, whites not only had a country of their own, but a whole continent (Europe) and even several countries elsewhere (Australia, New Zealand, Canada - all massively white, even the USA was more white than now). There's not a single country which non-treasonous whites control now. Even those countries in which whites remain the significant majority population (mainly in the EUSSR) are ruled by others via white proxies or by genocidally treasonous whites. How did this come to pass so quickly - and so thoroughly? If whites are to ever have a country of their own again, how could it be ensured that the insane genocidal quasi-religion at the root of this madness is never again permitted to flourish?
OT. Anybody know the race of the 17 year old who sucker punched a Mexican soccer ref and killed him, last week in California?
I was in a sports bar last night and they showed a film clip on the wallscreen. There's a clip at...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4Wt1vpQ5k0
...go to about the one minute mark.
OT. Anybody know the race of the 17 year old who sucker punched a Mexican soccer ref and killed him, last week in California?
I was in a sports bar last night and they showed a film clip on the wallscreen. There's a clip at...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4Wt1vpQ5k0
...go to about the one minute mark.
First of all this happened in Utah, not California.
Second, though the clip you linked to showed blacks assaulting referees, it didn't show the actual person in this case.
I'm guessing that the kid in this particular case was actually some sort of pacific islander. SLC has few blacks but is loaded with P.I.s and they are incredibly violent and impulsive. I actually had to have some dental work done once due to an encounter with one of them.
"Mr. Rational said...
Black people hardly care if they're shooting each other, so why should we give a flying fuck? Gosnell cut the population of future shooters. It's all good... isn't it?
I hesitate when people play 'minority report'. An innocent human being is still an innocent human being.
Destiny might be by design in our DNA and perhaps our African brethren are a rotten lot, but, I cannot fathom killing them off just for the sake of getting 'rid' of the problems they create. I have too much conscience for that.
I don't believe in aborting retarded children either. Compassion is part of our empathic nature. When we stop caring for our sick, our old, our young, we stop caring about life in general.
We are better than that kind of evil.
-=Northwest YT=-" - The practical reason to oppose such violence is that the most violent blacks are the winners in the genetic lottery there. likewise gang violence is mostly intragang because it serves the goals and fitness of the gang. That said there isn't a whole damned lot that can be done about it unless you intend to force them to live under what is essentially an authoritarian dictatorship, again.
Right on.
The Feds are out to dismantle the white family.
Child labor that is not abusive was good for kids. It kept them busy. They were productive, they learned marketable skills.
Whites will win via creating a stealth society with a stealth economy. We must disconnect entirely from the media and its influence via misinformation. The TV is an instrument to brainwash us with untruths.
Stop paying to see movies. Hang out with real people. Go outside. Stop paying into the corporate machine.
White Mom in VA
Ivan here.
I am currently reading, "White Man Think Again," by Anthony Jacob written in 1965. This guy flat gets it. I will post some excerpts from the book. Here is the first installment:
The people of Kenya learned to their cost that all forms of Liberalism, Humanism, Progressiveness, Multiracialism, Non-Racialism, Partnership, Integration and True Democracy, are but the engines of White destruction. They learned that they are all nothing but exalted catchwords well calculated to overthrow White Christian order and institute anarchy; lures to set the primitive against the civilized, the mob against their rulers, who if they themselves are infected with the liberal poison are all the more easily overcome.
Kenya, we must understand, is a microcosm of the entire West. Therefore let us ask ourselves, What would have been our general White position today if the world had consisted only of Kenya, with no other place for us to go to and no other form of government for us to live under? What then ? We, the White race, would already have been obliterated or reduced to everlasting, serfdom, would we not? Yet however fanciful it might still seem to the white peoples of the northern American states and occupied Europe, the world today does in the most vital sense consist only of Kenya, for we cannot keep on being racially overruled and uprooted and moved on. Wherever we are now we are in effect in Kenya; for certainly the operations of the anti-White conspiracies, the techniques of the Communists, Liberals and One-Worlders, remain significantly identical whether they be applied in Kenya or Alabama.
We must all ask ourselves, and quickly: Why are these things and what purpose do they serve? Cui Bono ? — Who is the gainer? Obviously it is not us.
Ex-Brooklynite:
The Tuskegee Experiment was not what the "Progressives" want you to think it was:
The Truth About Tuskegee
By Jared Taylor on February 2, 2004 at 2:00am
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The Tuskegee syphilis study ranks almost with slavery and lynching as a symbol of America's racist past. There is probably not one black American adult who does not know—or thinks he knows—about an experiment from the 1930s in which government health authorities deliberately withheld treatment from 400 black syphilitics just to see what would happen to them.
In some versions of story, the government deliberately infected the men. At the very least, the authorities are said to have been guilty of withholding the effective treatments that became available in the 1950s.
Blacks often cite fear of "another Tuskegee" to explain why few of them cooperate with public health programs or donate organs for transplant. They never know when white doctors might experiment on them.
Anthropologist Richard Shweder of the University of Chicago has just published a detailed analysis of the Tuskegee study in which he shows that virtually every popular assumption about it is false. (Tuskegee re-examined, January 8, 2004)
http://www.vdare.com/articles/the-truth-about-tuskegee
@HaroldC: Sshhhh! Loose lips sink ships.
Bogolyubski posted this and it is a central question for race realism:
Bogolyubski said... A century ago, whites not only had a country of their own, but a whole continent (Europe) and even several countries elsewhere (Australia, New Zealand, Canada - all massively white, even the USA was more white than now). There's not a single country which non-treasonous whites control now. Even those countries in which whites remain the significant majority population (mainly in the EUSSR) are ruled by others via white proxies or by genocidally treasonous whites. How did this come to pass so quickly - and so thoroughly?
This requires its own topic if not entire blog! Let me make some random stabs at a response:
* Triumph of the Elites. What have elites always wanted? To rule the world! This can get off into conspiracy theory and the tin foil helmet realm, but it is a reality that hyper-elites do organize into groups such as the Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission, etc., to promote a globalized economy and international governance. From their perspective, a strong white middle class is a little too much competition. So you dismantle it with with globalization and by financing leftist and minority advocacy groups. Meanwhile, most people are too busy watching 500 channels of TV to notice their country being taken from them.
* Rise of the New Class. James Burnham, George Orwell and Sam Francis wrote about a managerial-technocratic class which was replacing the capitalists as the dominant elite. Since the new class controls the perception industry--whether in media or academia or government--they shape opinion to favor an atomized, de-nationalized populace which facilitates organizational society. (They're the Outer Party to the elite Inner Party.)
* Liberal guilt. Burnham in his "Suicide of the West" postulated that guilt was a central motivation for modern liberalism. And liberal guilt has become far more pathological in the 21st century than when Burhnam was writing (mid-20th century). Liberal guilt is irrational, taking the form of a mass medieval style suicidal hysteria. Every defeat for the Western world--from Algeria to the Long Hot Summer riots--is reinterpreted by the DWL ideological machine as a victory for universal democracy and equality.
* The Black Power movement. Whether it's MLK or the Farakhan, blacks have pushed ceaselessly for their racial interests, destroying white rule from Birmingham to South Africa. They have the agitprop system, the mobs, and the race hustles to get their way with guilt-ridden DWLs.
* Loss of racial consciousness among whites. It gets back to that Amy Biehl Syndrome: "If we are nice to the 'other,' then the 'other' will be nice to us." I've observed this among too many white people, and it goes beyond any elite conspiracy theory. It's like people I knew who were in the 1960s Flower Power movement believing that "All it takes is love." Maybe this worked with the Freedom Riders when they had the full power of the federal government and MSM behind them against some disorganized Southern police chiefs--but the power of "nice" has failed from Detroit to Zimbabwe. Not groovy, man.
* A couple of World Wars. Probably too many healthy white racially conscious men were killed off. Too many European countries were bankrupted. Too many white pro-racial/nationalist institutions were discredited by being on the defeated side. And as white people were fighting among themselves, the third world saw its chance to grab some power. Add to this the rise of Communism in Russia and China, and you had major geopolitical powers pushing for egalitarianism. The US jumped on the equal rights bandwagon to win the support of the third world and hasn't been able to go back since.
How did this come to pass so quickly - and so thoroughly?
Maybe you could come up with an answer for once, Bogo. You certainly don't seem interested in those answers posited in response to this endless question. And you've asked it so often that you must have some inkling as to cause and prevention.
It's a huge mistake to lose sight of where the rubber meets the road: if we just stare at our feet and dejectedly insist that it'll all just happen again, there's no point to any conversation on this website. There's no point to Caucasian survival. You will insist, again, that this is not what you're doing, but I have to wonder why you raise that particular sulfurous balloon over and over again, only to leave it hanging there each time, stinking up the environment.
You will never get them to believe that they are their own worst enemy. Which is obvious when they keep electing Negros with sub par IQ's. It will always be the White mans fault that they are in the predicament they are in. When in fact WHITES OWE THEM NOTHING.
One world government is only possible by destroying the white middle class. Connect the dots, immigration, Nafta, BRA, etc., etc.
It all points in one direction and only one direction.
If you are a middle class white, upper class white, working poor white, no matter liberal, conservative, libertarian, moderate, non-political, you are in the cross-hairs.
Ask yourself this one question...How can the liberal Jews and white elite in Europe support all the European Muslim immigration? They are committing suicide to fulfill their dream of a one world communist government. The pull and dream are so strong they risk their very lives to genocide by the Muslim hordes. It is already happening. The world over the same story with a different cast of players.
You owe to your children and their children to resist with everything you got. If you are one of the so-called "useful idiots" please use your brain and personal observations to understand that once your freedom and liberty are gone you may not ever get them back.
I'm pretty sure the greatest minds of Africa were killed and eaten by their stupid, mouth breathing peers. Generation after generation.
The Black Issac Newton saw the apple fall from the tree, and as he pondered it, another tribesman killed him, stole the apple, and then ate him.
Not that you couldn't guess, but here's a link to the video: http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=19112917
Sure enough, if Obama had a son, he would look like that guy.
'As much as I hate to admit it, and I really do, there's probably a need for immigrants.'
you fuvking nuts?
Immigrants = non white, non christian.
Immigrants = end of america. soon.
Californian provided some excellent historical answers to the central question I posed earlier. I think all these roads might lead back to the same place. Silent Running appears to be uncomfortable with the question itself, which is understandable as it is a very discomforting question which demands some serious examination of basic assumptions.
The weakness lies within. It has been ruthlessly exploited by those whose intentions are nothing less than genocidal, aided and assisted by far too many of our own people (not just elites) who acted individually in their own perceived self-interest. If you look at the historical record, you will notice that the process of our destruction has roots which go back even to the days of white civilization's early maturity. The one thing that started to manifest in the 18th century to the degree it had never done before was the notion of individualism as the ultimate good.
Kevin MacDonald makes a very strong case for this in his article on the disasterous situation in Norway. The Muslims, Africans and others operate as a collective, while whites are atomized individuals who cannot right a collective even when they want to.
Another vital question, courtesy of Bogolyubski:
If whites are to ever have a country of their own again, how could it be ensured that the insane genocidal quasi-religion at the root of this madness is never again permitted to flourish?
Every generation has to renew itself. Every generation must have its vision. Some random thoughts:
Simply having an ethno-state is not enough. After all, the USA was just such a state until the mid-20th century. European countries, the white British Commonwealth countries, etc., were all ethno-states. That did not prevent their self-destruction in recent decades. The Scandinavian countries, the most Nordic of them all, are the ones pushing the most for multicultism.
There's the politics. Modern liberalism, for all of its talk about "tolerance," expects everyone to tow the party line on race. There is no marketplace of ideas when it comes to Boasian versus physical anthropology, for example. Nor can segregation or apartheid ever be allowed a supporting argument. Dissenters are thrown to the wolves, even criminalized. DWLs run a repressive regime of censorship and indoctrination.
Conversely, white ethno-states generally have had Freedom of Speech. This allowed DWLs and race hustlers to dominate the debate because the moment they got any power, they purged the racialist partisans from academia, the media, government, churches, etc.
There is an analogy here with the Wars of Religion. The dilemma has been that only one side (the DWL) has been fighting this war since the 1960s.
The old argument is: "if you let those who want to destroy your system have freedom of speech, you are committing suicide." And it's a real moral dilemma. Should a white ethno-state suppress liberal ideology? Does the imperative of survival mean the First Amendment goes?
Or is it enough to actively promote your own values? Say, by having institutions which give the white side to history, law enforcement, science, immigration, whatever.
The South during the Segregation Era had a considerable pro-white agitprop system (academia, media, science) which was able to defeat the Southern DWLs when it came to an open debate. But DWLs do not believe in open debate. They used their Northern allies to swamp the South (via television news, Freedom Riders, etc.) and bring in the federal government to decide the issue in the courts as well as with troops. Again, DWLs were not playing it by the rules. They lost the intellectual debate in the South so they called in outside forces to bring about integration via mob rule and at bayonet point.
I don't want to refight the battles of the Segregation Era. It just may be that segregation is unworkable in a modern industrial society. But there are lessons to be learned. A future white ethno-state would be besieged by outside forces. Look at the international jihad against white-governed South Africa.
Possibly, the era of the nation-state is over. DWLs act this way, as do the globalist elites.
A revival of white sanity can not be confined to a single country. One course of action is for white activists to use the Internet to organize trans-nationally. Create a global front. Get everyone involved: race realists and Neo-Confederates in America, nationalist organizations in Europe, Boer defense groups in South Africa.
And expand the alliance to include groups against the current world order. This may just include libertarians and Constitutionalists who oppose big government; scientists who want to tell the truth about race; internet activists; the militia and anti-immigration movements; counter-Jihadis; even third world economic nationalists; and many others.
Rather than reliving the dead past, race realists need to have a vision of the future.
Any more ideas?
Silent Running appears to be uncomfortable with the question itself, which is understandable as it is a very discomforting question which demands some serious examination of basic assumptions.
This is where Bogo is going to pretend that he hasn't been asking this question consistently for at least six months (search for Revenge: Obama's War on White America) and probably much longer. Someone truly interested in the question might have used that time to write the rough draft for a new constitution, or maybe read through VFR (see the article by Jeffersonian) and other blogs where the very thing was discussed at length. You could start cataloging the answers you receive. Instead you pop the same question every few posts like you'd just thought of it. "It got me thinking however." Right.
I'm very curious as to why you do this. I have my own ideas, but I'd just as soon hear it from the horse's mouth. And since I did you the courtesy of answering your question in good faith six months ago, you might consider doing the same.
Hehehehehe. Time to start dropping rumors about items blacks routinely purchase. Stuff about flamin red hots causing impotency and if you mix certain fast foods together with a 40 that the chemicals cause diabetes....
Sounds like fun time at the stores.
I did not actually see your extensive answer to the November thread until just now and will need to read in detail, SR.
OK, I've now read your response and agree with you that we have experienced a type of 'perfect storm'. The role of Marxism is huge and undeniable, but the root of the problem lies in the related notions of equality (there is no such thing - it's pure mythology) and hyper-individualism. These ideals exist nowhere else but in white civilization, and they were both present and in ascendence before Marx was even born. We've been over the treasonous and genocidal nature of the elites many times, so there is little to discuss there. The fact remains that none of this program would have had the massively poisonous effect it has were it not for the acceptance of its essential ideology by the majority of non-elite whites. As I pointed out to you in my post in the fall, the majority of whites remaining in South Africa continue to support the regime even today.
Californian raises some excellent points. It's all well and good to talk of secession, but what good would it do to establish a new white country if the squids are allowed to lend manufactured money to influence and destroy things from within?
The role of Marxism is huge and undeniable, but the root of the problem lies in the related notions of equality (there is no such thing - it's pure mythology) and hyper-individualism.
That's as viable a theory as any, though I don't necessarily agree with its premise. It has long been a prominent topic at Mangan's, VFR, and iSteve, so those sites will have extensive archives.
The fact remains that none of this program would have had the massively poisonous effect it has were it not for the acceptance of its essential ideology by the majority of non-elite whites.
True, but I think I mentioned somewhere that this phenomenon is not new. In fact, there are two excellent examples of peoples accepting and even championing ideologies that were ultimately suicidal just this past century: Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union. The Third Reich was crushed in spectacular fashion and the Soviets imploded. Hell, there are unrepentant ex-Stasi men in the halls of German government to this day. This is all the product of human conditioning, and I'm not sure there's a way to roll it back without taking everything down.
It's all well and good to talk of secession, but what good would it do to establish a new white country if the squids are allowed to lend manufactured money to influence and destroy things from within?
Take a look at the Northwest Front website. They already have their own constitution and bill of rights (and a bill of responsibilities). There are many ways to limit the influence of undesirables by means of a constitution: limit the franchise, make your squids pay exorbitant tariffs, etc.
@Anon 4:06
Thanks for the Jared Taylor link. So, it is TRUE that the black men went untreated for 40 years, shocking given the current state of antibiotics, but that fact is in fact IRRELEVANT to the men who were in the study, as they were not treatable, being in the latent, third stage of syphilis. I think that's the problem with this story: it's fundamentally true, but seen through a window that projects present technology onto the past.
Almost as if on cue - a writer at Alternative Rght has posted a very interesting article on the subject of how a governing structure might be erected in a new white ethno-state. It's monarchial, but does not fall back upon the hereditary model of earlier eras.
Here's another issue I'd like to see analyzed: Why did the pro-white movement fail in the 1950s-60s?
Consider how there were entire states opposing the civil rights revolution, with politicians, cops, media, academics, businessmen, civic organizations, etc., all in the fight. There was George Wallace. There were Dixiecrats. There were millions of mainstream Americans opposing AA and busing. There was Nixon's Southern Strategy. There was William F. Buckley, jr., critiquing MLK and supporting South Africa. There were militant groups like the National Youth Alliance. There was the backlash against the Long Hot Summer riots. There was even Ward Connerly questioning where things were going.
All this ought to have created a mass movement.
So what happened?
Did the pro-white movement fail because its tactics were wrong? Because it misinterpreted the situation? Because its foundations were not valid?
I am really interested in anyone who has some experience from that era giving their point of view as to what happened. And in people today looking back and coming up what they think went wrong.
And how the next time around, a better strategy can be implemented.
^^^THIS!!!!^^^
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Big YT the Cracka
"One moral conclusion I came to a long time ago is that if I cannot do right by a child, I should not bring it into the world."
So do the world a favor and get a vasectomy, you miserable rat bastard. You're as selfish, shiftless and useless as the laziest black welfare recipient.
You would kill a child for a cleft palate?? Seriously???? And how DARE you chalk your selfishness up to "compassion." A Down Syndrome child might need assistance to handle everyday life, but they genuinely enjoy their lives and appreciate what they do have and can do.
You are a disgrace to whites everywhere.
During my time as a server, I've found that blacks don't tip as well as whites, but overall, class is actually a better indicator of who will tip than race is. People who are low class, regardless of race, are less likely to tip appropriately. I made this video to document my experience as a server.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s_MYStd-is
Someone without even the balls to pick a pseudonym wrote:
You would kill a child for a cleft palate?? Seriously????
No, I would terminate a fetus. A child breathes air.
I have long deplored the Marxist use of language by pro-"life" activists, such as the oxymoronic term "unborn child". Maybe you can call one that's more or less ready for birth an "unborn child", but they inevitably push the boundary back to things which are barely naked-eye visible. Abraham Lincoln said it well in a debate: "How many legs does a dog have, if you call a tail a leg? Four. Calling a tail a leg doesn't make it a leg."
And how DARE you chalk your selfishness up to "compassion." A Down Syndrome child might need assistance to handle everyday life, but they genuinely enjoy their lives and appreciate what they do have and can do.
I'm concerned about the survival of my family and the White race. A Down syndrome (or most any other "special needs") child is a detriment to both. There's a name for something that requires care throughout its adult life: a pet. I have a pet begging for attention right now, I don't want any more.
You are a disgrace to whites everywhere.
If you think that major birth defects are so great, why don't you start your own little colony and select your embryos for trisomy 21 and propensity to neural-tube defects? See how long your second generation can sustain the burden of its unproductive members, let alone defend itself against aggression from r-selected groups.
The West used to put Down syndrome babies (and many with other defects) into institutions, where they did not get much in the way of money for care and usually died very young. Post-WWII, we have thrown care at them in the belief that they are as valuable as anyone else. We have run out of the resources for this, both borrowing money against future income and slashing the quality of that future. This can't continue, so it won't. Whites are a K-selected race, and that means being careful about reproduction. Now as always, there are some offspring (potential and actual) which do not merit investment of resources. If you think otherwise, go read "The Gods of the Copybook Headings" for enlightenment and remember that adulthood is the ability to face unpleasant truths.
I do believe that the powers that be are using blacks against us...we are all pawns.
It is believable that they're supplying drugs to the black community...but the thing is, all blacks have to do is "just say no." Yeah, I know, I know...kinda hard to do when you're all about self-gratification.
This is why blacks are being imported rather than deported, the way I see it. Create a white backlash, and when chaos ensues, declare martial law and strip away what's left of the Constitution.
It's a possible scenario.
Blacks are also a good excuse to have Big Brother cameras all over the place, when you think about it. And of course in the name of equality, if you watch the blacks, you have to watch the whites and everyone else too....make sense?
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