Wednesday, February 22, 2012

I Drink Your Milkshake: Rising Gas Prices and the End of Escaping the Black Undertow

I drink your milkshake: The end of cheap gas means the end of Black-Run America (BRA)
So much to do, so little time to do it. Lately, due to working on finishing three books (and researching Detroit's history for the definitive story on the impending collapse of Black-rule in that city as well) and shoring up the details of a Fair Campaign that *could* have major ramifications, I feel like SBPDL has suffered. Traffic has never been higher, but too many stories are being neglected.

I'm working on four articles for VDare, but wanted to pose this question to all SBPDL readers: Gas prices are rising (as the purchasing power of the dollar declines, plus the pernicious influence of inflation and the increased demand for oil from "developing" nations) and will reach levels that will negatively impact American families budgets.

Mind you, those budgets are now reliant on the Dollar Store Economy to help stretch the buying power of the dollar farther and farther:
Over the past few years, arguably no retail faction has experienced as much success as dollar stores. Dollar General has just about doubled its number of locations in the past decade. There are now more than 9,800 Dollar General stores nationwide, making it the country’s largest retailer by location count.Dollar Tree opened its 4,000th store in 2010, after hitting the 3,000 mark four years ago. Family Dollar, meanwhile, has about 7,000 locations in North America, and expects to add 450 to 500 more this fiscal year.
According to one study, as of mid-2011, the four main dollar stores (those named above, as well as 99¢ Only) outnumbered major drugstore chains in the U.S., 21,500 to 19,700.
The study, from research firm Colliers International, indicates that dollar stores have gone mainstream and become more acceptable, even in relatively upscale shopping areas.
Nothing showcases the glory of open-border madness, free trade policies wiping out wealth creating manufacturing jobs, a libertarian-friendly service economy, and collapsing majority Black inner-cities like the dollar store economy. It should be noted that 10 years ago I found a copy of The Bell Curve at a Dollar Store (walked in to buy toilet paper to roll a friend's house-- think economically when you plan to TP a house!), which is still the best dollar I've ever spent. 


On this same line of thinking, many economists, sociologists, and apologists blame the decline of Detroit under the  Actual Black Run America (ABRA) government on the highway system that enabled white flight to cheap land around the city. Whitopia's - those temporary "Drifter Colonies" - instantly sprung up around not only Detroit, but major cities throughout America, when cheap gas made it possible for families to move away from the crime and societal confusion of densely populated metropolises and live in a beautiful home with the white picket fence. 


Gas prices have fluctuated during the exodus of white people from major cities to the suburbs, but father's (and increasingly mother's) have continued to spend upwards to two hours each day (10 hours a week, forty hours a month, 480 hours a year - the equivalent of 20 full days) just to avoid living in cities with too many Black people. 


This is why we have stated the greatest ecological threat is not some fatuous notion of man-made global warming, but the continued misapplication of resources to escape the Black Undertow (which drives down property value, drives away businesses, increases crime and the need for greater law enforcement budgets, stresses entitlement programs, and overwhelms a school system with discipline problems and poor academic performances) enhances the carbon footprint of white American's trying to raise a family in an environment that seeks to replicate 1950s America. 


I came across this fantastic site that shows historic gas prices over the past six years, and it offers form fields where you can customize your search for hundreds of cities in the United  States.



We live in the end of a historic era; few even dare contemplate what this means for the future policy positions, but I believe historians will look back on the past sixty years of American history and point to the availability of cheap gas as one of the key variables as to why we delayed addressing the real reasons racial inequalities persist in America. White Americans could escape into the suburbs -- even those that would inevitably be overwhelmed with Climate Change -- and raise families far removed from the negative influences of Black America. 



Just look at the strange geographic look of a Metro Atlanta, where the suburbs jettison out in every direction from the City too Busy to Hate. The same can be said for any major metropolitan city in America that has a large Black population.


Gas prices are rising at a record pace. Hardworking American families are seeing more and more of their after-tax income and budget going to pay to fill up their car. This will only get worse as the year moves on and gas prices rise higher.

The end of escaping Black-Run America (BRA) is upon us. It's no longer economically viable.

We at SBPDL believe this is a good thing. This is why the Fair Campaign (Exist) which will be slowly unveiled over the coming weeks is so important.

The end of abandoning city after city to the future fury of ABRA is now. The end of escaping into suburban America and the abandonment of 'Manifest Destiny' for a 'Black-Run Destiny' is now. 

Tomorrow, we'll discuss why the concept of a "Green City" can't transpire unless the Black population is below five percent. We'll introduce the concept of what an actual "Green Job" represents. And soon, we'll discuss what "Mini-Sweden's" are, and how they are popping up all across America.

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99 comments:

Anonymous said...

Deadly Weekend in Cleveland

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORgzlWgXafk

Anonymous said...

The more unemployed whites there are, the more people there are who are NOT too busy to hate.

Think about it.

Californian said...

For a while, the left was pushing the fact that American working class wages were declining while CEO compensation was skyrocketing. This line got dropped as the left took up the cause of illegal immigration ("undocumented workers"), one of the primary reasons for lowering working class wages as well as breaking up the unions and so forth.

Thing is, the standard of living for the average American is probably on the decline, with the dollar stores and such as a symptom.

There's a valid point here about how commuting adds to the overall stress. That two hours a day or more people burn up driving to and from work could be used for any number of useful purposes, from mowing the lawn to going to a town hall meeting. But then again, if you live in the suburbs and getting to city hall requires a minor expedition, it's far easier to sink into the barcalounger after work and drown yourself in 500 channels of cable.

Discard said...

Dollar stores are institutionalized yard sales for Chinese manufacturers. I suppose it's a good thing that people are using the stuff instead of dumping it into landfills, but it's sad for an older White man to see. I remember the nearly indestructable die-cast toys we had, the baseball glove my brother used for 25 seasons, the steel staplers and scissors and other household items that lasted for many years. These things have become totems, symbols of the White Man's lost Juju.

Anonymous said...

Paul..see a book called..
'THE END OF OIL'
or 'POWER DOWN'.

Anonymous said...

White suburbs are ending for those who want to it to end.. Its called gentrification. The whites/asians are pushing out blacks to the suburbs which is creating an odd problem.

The whites who moved to the suburbs to escape the black undertow are not too pleased with blacks moving into their neighborhood. This causes the white suburb to shift around a city like a carousel. It's an interesting phenomenon.

Anonymous said...

I look forward to your post tomorrow. You might find this interesting:

THE WHITE CITY

http://www.newgeography.com/content/001110-the-white-city

Big fan!

Anonymous said...

Yep, when Dad can no longer afford to go to the movies to get his quiet time, it's time to reclaim the remote control and easy chair from the ungrateful kids.

Anonymous said...

Gas prices are rising (as the purchasing power of the dollar declines, plus the pernicious influence of inflation and the increased demand for oil from "developing" nations)...

You left out one important factor. Speculation of future supply due to possible hostilities.

All of the neocon candidates have either pledged to attack Iran, or have not ruled it out. Obama appears not to like this "option," but it is difficult to go against the wishes of Israel (and probably also Saudi Arabia, if the truth was known--although the House of Saud would never admit their complicity). With an election at hand, it would not surprise me if he attacks close to November. Sure, that would be cynical, but what else is new?

At the same time, both Russians and Chinese have an economic stake in Iran, so they are not happy. It is an interesting mix of competing interests. In any case, Obama has proven that he is not averse to military action against ME countries that the Anglo led regimes wish to destabilize.

Anonymous said...

So you cut off the escape route whites have typically employed to escape predation by blacks. Not a good idea. What if whites begin an offensive against the blacks who lay siege to whites? You can expect to hear cries of racism when junior and his half brothers/sisters get killed while attacking whitey.

Anonymous said...

I think this is a good website and I enjoy the articles and comments. They don’t feel ‘filtered’ or sanitized.
I have read many theories on black behavior, culture, inability to contribute in a technical civilization and on their potential to improve. I am not an evolutionary biologist but I think there are two functional elements that have been overlooked. First is that blacks and whites evolved in different environments and therefore were encoded with environmentally determined characteristics for success which are as different as their environments. To survive from the hunter-gatherer through agrarian to the modern technologic dependent world required whites to specialize. Complex communication, planning, memory, and social awareness as individuals within the group improved survival odds. On the other hand, blacks evolved in herds, as prey,more or less. No reward for complex language, planning, specialization or post pubescent cognitive development. The herd or tribal line of evolution is one of ‘looking back’, over- the- shoulder response rather than a plan or awareness of possible positive consequences of planning. Could this explain, at least in part, so many of the features that characterize blacks? For example in spite of trillions of dollars spent on education, why is the dropout rate so consistently high in black males once they reach puberty? Also, their clear impulse control failure shows a complete void of awareness of forward consequences. Why is everyone ‘brother and sister’ when they kill each other with Hollywood precision? Is it because the environment favored success in a herd or tribe rather than an individual direction? Most African land prey insures success by numbers, speed and physical skills rather than planning, right? Why would the human prey be any different? Why are 95% of strong, fast running backs in the NFL black?
So evolution pushed blacks to evolve as an over- the- shoulder, backward- looking group with herd and tribal dynamics. If they evolved any differently in that particular environment, they would be extinct. Until the world became dependent on technology and infrastructure their difference didn’t matter.
That brings me to point two. In 2011 some basic genetic research confirmed the concept of epigenetics. Essentially, the concept is that while all of our characteristics are expressed within the architecture of our inherited DNA, that that very DNA can change its expression without changing the basic pattern based on changes in the surroundings. This is unbelievably huge. It may explain why a segment of nonwhite contaminated blacks can actually integrate into a complex, forward-moving culture but still be unable to meaningfully contribute to the sophisticated technology. These are the nonarrogant, nonviolent, non aggressive, blacks that we all know and like. Blacks with white DNA seem to have an 80% chance of achieving success in our technical world depending on the amount of white DNA.
In summary, it means that there may, in fact, be a way blacks can ‘post evolve’ into productive, civilized neighbors. Unfortunately, you can’t properly fix what you don’t know is broken and our confused, politically correct government and media will not allow any discussion that suggests blacks are ‘different’…not inferior, just different. This occurs despite daily evidence in the form of ebonics, obesity, academic dumpsters, violence, quitting, laziness, dependency, generational welfare, teen pregnancy, victimization, and racial hatred and envy.

Midwestern said...

In the black undertow, you will often see cars stalled in the middle of the road. The cars are out of gas. This occurs more frequently when gas prices rise.

The blacks have not planned well, and instead of learning to keep the tank topped, or simply keep an eye on the gauge, they instead always, ALWAYS carry a red gasoline can in the trunk for the times they run out of gas. I have also seen blacks carry plastic milk jugs full of gasoline in their trunks for the times when they run out. You would think they would just put the gas in their tank instead of carrying it in the trunk.

Blacks pump $2-$5 worth of gas at a time when gasoline is expensive, and they always drive big old cars with bad gas mileage. In the undertow, you will often see blacks walking along the road with red gas cans.

Anonymous said...

Great article PK. I bought The Bell Curve at a dollar store too.

Ben N Indiana said...

"but father's (and increasingly mother's) have continued to spend upwards to two hours each day (10 hours a week, forty hours a month, 480 hours a year - the equivalent of 20 full days) just to avoid living in cities with too many Black people."

The Demographic Dance

Most of those same White people are

advocates of 'civil rights' laws, 1965 Immigration Act, Brown v Board of Ed,

oppose Jim Crow, race profiling, etc

Midwestern said...

I always have a nice chuckle at the black posters on SBPDL when they try to convince us that we are "all the same".

When you live near a black undertow, you witness many strange behaviors. Most underclass blacks can not afford to keep and drive cars, but do so because of the stigma of riding the bus or walking and "looking poor" to other blacks.

Here are a few more interesting behaviors when it comes to blacks and automobiles.

In the undertow, you will see blacks driving newer model vehicles which have been wrecked multiple times, ones that have major emissions issues like chugging black smoke and backfires, cars with dragging or missing mufflers, cars with busted windshields, broken windows covered with trash bags and pillow cases, and missing fenders. Sometimes these have expired paper plates in the back window.

I see this problem increasing as gas prices rise.

These cars are patched with duct tape, cellophane, bungee cords, and metal wires because the cost of repair and upkeep is too high. When the time comes, blacks will dump the car on the roadside, remove the plates and spinning rims and tires, and abandon it for good.

I recently found out that the poor can get 10 and 20 year loans on new cars at a high interest rate so that they can manage the payments. They make a few payments, find that they cannot afford the car, abandon it, it is repossessed, and then it is sold again with the same terms.

They never intend to pay for the car in full, and will drive it into the ground knowing that they will eventually abandon it. I am sure the rest of us pay for this luxury.

Living near a black undertow, I have had to call about the removal of several cars which have been abandoned in this way.

Blacks will drive unplated cars with head lights off through the back roads and alleyways at night in order to avoid the expense of plates and the scrutiny of the police. They will also save money by using one single license plate and switching it between multiple cars, including other friend's cars.

When abandoning a car for good, the driver will often dump his trash in the curb, and I have found overdue hospital bills, court papers, welfare documents, and other personal items which include names, addresses, case numbers, and social security numbers.

Anonymous said...

WTF?????????

CNN :
'DOES SECURE BORDER KEEP AMERICA WHITE'



Mr LZ is black.....

LZ Granderson, who writes a weekly column for CNN.com, was named journalist of the year by the National Lesbian and Gay Journalists Association and a 2011 Online Journalism Award finalist. He is a senior writer and columnist for ESPN the Magazine and ESPN.com and the 2009 winner of the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation award for online journalism. Follow him on Twitter: @locs_n_laughs. Watch him on Tuesdays on CNN Newsroom, 9 am ET hour.

Grand Rapids, Michigan (CNN) -- In case you plan to see Wednesday's GOP debate, allow me to offer up some crib notes so you don't get lost.

First, when you hear the candidates talk about "job creators," that's just another way of saying "rich people" or "the guy bankrolling my super Pac."

When someone says "family values," that's to remind the audience that they don't like gay people; "religious freedom" means "Christianity"; and it's not really a GOP debate until a candidate attacks the "liberal media" for asking questions they're too afraid to answer.

R Neville said...

OT, thought I would post before it mysteriously vanishes from the website.
http://www.stltoday.com/entertainment/music/kevin-johnson/nightclub-holding-light-skinned-vs-dark-skinned-women-contest/article_5e5d5cbe-5dcf-11e1-83a3-0019bb30f31a.html

The newpaper is actually posting this by their entertainment correspondent (a negro-go figure).
What a nice DWL display of tolerable racism.

DW said...

One of the best things PK does here at SBPDL is point out how BRA affects our day-to-day lives, for example, long commutes.

In honor of Black History Month, let's all take some time to reflect on how different our lives would have been without the Black undertow.

Imagine there had been no Black kids at school with you or your kids, no AA hires working with you, no Black neighborhoods in your town, no Black influence on our popular culture.

Think about it, especially if you're a fence-sitter or someone who's newly aware.

W74 said...

I think that some Whites will HAVE to move into the inner cities out of necessity. Those who can't make-do in the woods or out on the farm will be in for a rough ride. Sorry office drones!

There are "reverse drifter colonies" I guess you could term them in Baltimore. The neighborhoods of Fells Point, Canton, and Federal Hill sport homes going for $200,000-450,000...right next to emptied out shells selling for $5,000-10,000.

Using Google Earth, Google maps, or (my new favorite for it's use of oblique aerial imagery) Bing Maps you can tell which are White areas and what areas have fallen victim to the black chaos.

Now I understand the appeal of not having to spend a lot on gas and having trendy restaurants and work nearby, but what happens when the office jobs collapse? What happens when the EBT card runs out and the blacks ("an dey chillinz") go hungry?

It will be a melée. You can bet your bottom dollar on that.

RobertB said...

Hate to burst anyone's bubble, but gas has been much higher before now--adjusting for inflation it hit today's equivalent of $5.00/gal in 1980. That figure was produced a few years ago, inflation has changed that so it might be around $5.25 in today's money.

In 1980 we also saw interest rates for home mortgages hit 19% +. We saw unemployment hit "adjusted" numbers of 12%. And, just like now, we were told that the new full employment level was 7.5% to 8% unemployment. It didn't stop white flight. It did put Ronald Reagan in the White House. Regan removed the Carter era restrictions on drilling and gas eventually fell to $ .99.9/gal in the late 90's. gas had, adjusting for inflation, become cheaper than it was in 1969. America boomed--now considered the longest boom in our history.

Instead of reading silly books about "peak oil". read "The Prize" by Daniel Yergin. It covers the history of the oil business from 1855 to 1992. The sequel was recently published. You will learn that there is not now, nor has there ever been a natural shortage of oil--they have all been "man made". The first was in the 1920's. It led to the Teapot Dome scandal.

Big oil discovered that it was best for them to keep the oil in the ground as long as possible. The West Texas Oil Fields taught them this lesson--by 1932 the price of a barrel of oil fell to $.15. It cost about $1.00 to get it out of the ground. They convinced FDR's administration to impose production quotas and the price dually rose. Thus began the relationship between big oil and the Democrats. Obama's biggest financial supporter and the biggest funder of pro-man made global warming is none other than BP. They want that oil in the ground. Big oil is not fearful of Green Energy because they know nothing will replace oil in the next 200 years. The CEO of EXXON has made it clear repeatedly that there is at least a 200 year supply at present and future forecast demand.

Republicans have always sided with small oil--the guys that want their piece of the pie. There is nothing wrong with oil--the whole of modernity is based upon it and made possible by it. It is not evil--it is a miracle of American ingenuity. It made it possible for your great grandfather to read at night and get an education. It made most of modern medical science possible and it made the whole of of modern chemistry possible. Oil companies were the first employers of chemists--way back in the 1870's. You can thank evil John D. Rockefeller for that.

cont'd

RobertB said...

cont'd below:

Liberals despise roads and oil precisely because it allows YT to run. Years and years ago I learned of one of many Liberal projects to curb white flight. One was to defund road building and maintenance. Another is to use road monies for light rail (hugely inefficient and ultra expensive), bus routes and bikeways.

The idea of "transportation corridors" and "sustainable communities" is all about curbing white flight and actually reversing it. If your commute becomes long enough and expensive enough, you will move back to the city. These concepts are part of the U.N.s liberal charter. They want the masses forced into high density housing and forced onto public transportation. Then they can force your children into public schools so they can further indoctrinate them.

Oil is your friend. Vote to drill, and I mean drill. there is no shortage other than man made shortages.

Stuff Black People Don't Like said...

Robert,

I'll pick up that book (it's been in my Amazon Wish List for a while now).

I've never been a "Peak Oil" person, but if the price of a barrel of oil keeps going up (based on speculation, increased demand, and the eroding purchasing power of the dollar), then American's will see $6.00/a gallon gas prices soon.

The impact will be huge. You are right though about inflation and gas prices being higher in the embargo days (way before I was even born).

HW said...

The recent spike in gas prices is due to South Sudan (a country that derives 98 percent of government revenue from oil) shutting down production over its oil revenue dispute with Sudan.

It is also due to Iran shutting off oil exports to Europe over trade sanctions over its nuclear program. I'm also sure that Libyan production has been disrupted by the revolution and that Boko Haram's bombing campaign in Nigeria has something to do with it.

In any case, it just goes to show that there is no slack in the system anymore, and that demand for oil has permanently outstripped supply, which puts a hard ceiling on economic growth.

I think it came out last Thanksgiving that Peak Oil happened in 2007 or 2008. The debate had always been about when it would happen, not if it would happen, and whether there would be time to transition to a post petroleum energy system.

The supply disruptions in South Sudan and Iran are just a little taste of what's coming down the road. It shows how vulnerable Western economies have become to supply disruptions in the Third World.

Anonymous said...

The system wants everybody under its control in the cities. They aren't bringing us together to be one people, one race, either! They want us at each others throats to divide and conquor.

Blacks will victimize whites if they're allowed in our midst. Hundreds of years of history confirm this is true.

I wish I had an easy solution, but there simply isn't one. I'm going to move to a white state, that's my solution.

I don't want to be around non whites and the problems they bring.

HW said...

The price of oil collapsed because massive new oil fields were discovered and brought online in Alaska and the North Sea that temporarily broke OPEC's leverage over the global oil market.

The West also developed and exploited oil fields in Mexico, Angola, Equatorial Guinea and other African countries like Nigeria. This was also before the explosion of economic growth in China and India bid up the price of oil in the Bush years.

The notion that there is plenty of oil to go around is refuted by the development of the Alberta tar sands, offshore drilling rigs like Deepwater horizon, and drilling in the Arctic circle.

If there was plenty of oil still left in, say, the continental U.S., you wouldn't be seeing so much money squandered developing inferior tar sand deposits or drilling in hazardous areas like the Arctic or the outer continental shelf.

Oil is a finite resource. Just look at the sharp decline in Mexican and North Sea production which are past peak.

Chris in LV said...

I welcome higher gas prices. It will just make my drive easier with fewer drivers on the road. Anyone remember the dipshits trying to "hyper-mile" back in '07-'08? LOL.

Took a road trip from Vegas to SoCal and back the other day and noticed several stranded drivers on the 15. All of them blacks and hispanics with beater cars that couldn't make it through the mountain passes. But they were able to scrounge up the money to come to Vegas... nevermind that radiator, some new tires and brakes or $4.25 gas... always living on the edge.

Anonymous said...

I had to add- los angeles has these green tow. trucks free on tfe highways to pick up disabled vehicles.

Id never seen one until I went to a bad part of town. They all congregate there because thats where the breakdowns occur. its also a ticketable offense to run out of gas on the freeway.

I've seen tires fly off cars at 65 mph, mufflers fall off, cars hit a bedliner that flew oit of a truck, mattresses and whatnot on the freeway, not to mention the usual sniping at people changing tires (if not simply hitting them)

Guess who the perpetrators of these things are, and what neighborhoods they happen in?

Jay Santos said...

"I drink your milkshake" - an awesome movie. Though to be fair, I think Denzel should have played Daniel Plainview. In fact, where were all the black characters? Negroes pretty well built the oil industry with their labor. Hollywood ruined this tale, that was based on the novel Oil!, written by Bobby Brown.

Anonymous said...

Black on black gang violence, 6 deaths in Cleveland:

http://cofcc.org/2012/02/gangbangers-kill-6-in-cleveland-over-weekend/

Mr. Rational said...

The conspiracy theory of oil prices is proven wrong.  So has Daniel Yergin, who is essentially the paid mouthpiece for the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.  Yergin has been predicting higher oil production (extraction) and lower prices for years, and has been dead wrong year after year.  US oil production peaked in 1970, and was headed steadily and relentlessly down until we got close to $100/bbl prices.  Oil went down even when the oil price shocks made it more and more profitable to drill.  But Saudi Arabia doesn't want people to realize the game is over, because they'll switch and their kingdom collapses.  That's why you get the propaganda like "100 years supply".  That's true to a point; people like Bill Gates and George Soros will always have all the oil they want.

The only times since 1973 we've had relief from high oil prices was when one of two things happened:

1.  The Saudis pumped like crazy to flood the market.  This is what happened in the 1980's, and it killed the export income from Russian oil and brought down the Soviet Union in 1989.  The Saudis couldn't do this again if they wanted to, because Ghawar is just about empty.
2.  A fiscal house of cards collapsed and demand along with it.  This happened in late 2008, but also in 1998-99 with the Asian Flu.  I was there, I remember buying premium for under a buck.

The world is running out of oil.  Britain was an exporter when the North Sea was pumping like crazy; it's an importer again.  Mexico was an exporter when Cantarell was going great guns; it's about to be an importer again.  Indonesia, which Japan invaded in 1941 to get its oil wells to run its war effort, is an importer now.  Heck the USA was an exporter until 1948, and now we import 60% of the oil we use.  Do you get the picture?

Light rail is only "expensive" when union graft is added onto it.  Look at the old pictures of Detroit on shorpy.com; streetcars all over the place!  It was cheaper and cleaner than horses, and it worked because TNB never would have been tolerated.

R Neville said...

neighborhoods in urban areas are being taken back by whites---usually DWL's or DWL organizations.
Here in the Lou, the Lafeyette park neighborhood has been "gentrified" and is relatively safe. It is also a high security area wher DWL's use smart phone technology to track and deter negro crime.
Saint Louis University also is reclaiming urban land. They buy up the plague areas around their campus and hospital, demolish the buildings, and use the new space for parks, or new housing. You do not see the typical negro consumer stores in these neighborhoods either.
The problem is that these areas are not family friendly for whites. The schools, even the private ones, are geared towards negro mediocrity and doctrine. Many doggie loving DWLS/gays live in these gentrified areas.

Caiden said...

I wonder how long it will be before you see more families moving in together. In desperate times a couple may have a cousin or someone sleep in a spare room for a week or two. At some point, some whites aren't going to want to get any closer to blacks then necessary.

This seems to happen alot with illegal aliens, but at some point a lower middle class white family may rent out a basement of an equally middle class white family rather then rent or own a home in a black area, or one where there are more section 8 housing.

The conflict comes with the different expectations whites have over blacks. The whole occupy debacle was middle class white liberal kids who were demanding the government give them middle class life styles for nothing. The blacks were more realistic demanding housing projects and some EBT money, and while the blacks will always want more they're happen to have pee stanined building and eat based off of what is given to them rather then what is earned. The liberal white kids thought the 'white people's welfare' would mean they could live like trust fund babies.

While blacks have always accepted lower standards (thug boyfriends, have 5 kids they can't support, government substized life rather then working, etc) most whites have believed that people are able to work for what they need in life. And that blacks have just not been given the same oppurtunities to work for that life.

When you have 2 or 3 white couples living in the same house because even the hispters are afraid of living close to the blacks, what will happen next: massive anti Democratic voting or all out white riots.

Playing Roots Backwards said...

Those of you who are too young to remember the oil embargo of 1974 are in for a big wake up call when the problems in the oil producing nations escalate to the point of causing a gasoline shortage in America.

I had to drive from Detroit, MI to Santa Barbara, CA during that embargo and I have never forgotten the feeling of panic and helplessness that I experienced many times during that trip.

I knew that gas would be a problem, so I drove out of my way to fill up six five-gallon cans and top off my tank at a station in Petersburg, MI. Due to an oddball quota system that the Nixon administration created, stations in out-of-the-way towns had plenty of gas.

My '65 Impala was a guzzler, so my fuel only got me to a place in Iowa near the Amana Colony. My gas gauge was way down into the red, it was late and there were no motels nearby, so I slept in my car next to the pumps of a dark, closed gas station. When the attendant woke me up in the morning I was able to read the signs on the pumps that said they were out of gas.

A station in the next town had gas, but there was a 5 gallon limit.

I got off I-80 and followed Route 6. Most of the stations along the way were out of gas, but I was able to pick up a few gallons every once in a while.

I ran out of gas near Hastings, Nebraska and a farmer sold me 5 gallons out of his personal farm tank for $5 a gallon. He told me that he heard that there was plenty of gas in Grand Island.

There wasn't. Every tank at every station in Grand Island was bone dry. However, they did have a paint store that sold five gallon cans of toluene and denatured alcohol and all of the gas stations had plenty of kerosene, so I got creative. My old car ran fine on a two-part toluene, two-part alcohol and one-part kerosene cocktail, but if you shut if off you needed a can of starting fluid and an accomplice to get it started again.

By the time I got to Barstow, CA I was tired of feeding that expesive brew to a V-8 engine, so I traded my like new, low-mileage Impala to a guy who wore a Satan's Saints patch for a chopped, raggedy, 550cc 1957 Triumph Tiger with half bald tires.

The freeways around L.A. looked like the freeways in Atlanta on "The Walking Dead". Miles and miles of abandoned cars that had ran out of gas and no place to buy any.

When I finally made it back home on the Tiger about a week later the gas was beginning to flow again. The union truckers were still shooting at the independents who didn't honor their strike, and a lot of gas stations had broken windows, but life quickly settled back into the same old unconcerned stupor.

Ever since that trip in 1974 I feel like I just got kicked in the stomach every time the fuel gods start showing their ugly side. Before long you young guys will know exactly how that feels.

I'm pretty sure that when the folks from Whitopia start having to do a mini version of my California trip just to get to work every day they will start resenting the people who made it necessary.

Mr. Rational said...

when the folks from Whitopia start having to do a mini version of my California trip just to get to work every day they will start resenting the people who made it necessary.

They are already programmed to blame Exxon-Mobil and "speculators"; see RobertB above.

HW said...

Peak Oil was reached in 2006.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/energy/2010/11/101109-peak-oil-iea-world-energy-outlook/

Zenster said...

Lately, due to working on finishing three books (and researching Detroit's history for the definitive story on the impending collapse of Black-rule in that city as well) and shoring up the details of a Fair Campaign that *could* have major ramifications, I feel like SBPDL has suffered.

Forget it, Paul. You're doing an outstanding job of mucking out the Augean stables of Race Realism and have nothing to be ashamed of. Capiche?

On this same line of thinking, many economists, sociologists, and apologists blame the decline of Detroit under the Actual Black Run America (ABRA) government on the highway system that enabled white flight to cheap land around the city.

This is astounding as the Eisenhower era expansion of America's freeway system was a direct response to the military utility of WWII Germany's nascent autobahn system.

(As a sidebar to those who have not driven on a modern German autobahn; you cannot have more fun without taking your clothes off. Imagine driving on a roadbed that you could eat your breakfast off of. Now, imagine eating that breakfast off of a roadway that sees fewer accidents than an American country lane. I exaggerate but do not over-emphasize the lack of serious accidents that I saw in my several different weeks of driving on Germany's expressways. Remember, many stretches have no speed limits.)

Try to imagine the additional exhaust emissions that would enter the atmosphere if there were no freeways and all automobile traffic was forced onto congested surface streets. Lamenting the existence of multilane highways is like regretting ever having discovered the polio vaccine. Once again, Liberals shift the burden of guilt off of Black shoulders and paint White accomplishment as the villain.

On this same line of thinking, many economists, sociologists, and apologists blame the decline of Detroit under the Actual Black Run America (ABRA) government on the highway system that enabled white flight to cheap land around the city.

Trust idiots to blame functioning infrastructure for TNB. How much more stupid do they have to get before they finally forget to keep breathing?

We live in the end of a historic era; few even dare contemplate what this means for the future policy positions, but I believe historians will look back on the past sixty years of American history and point to the availability of cheap gas as one of the key variables as to why we delayed addressing the real reasons racial inequalities persist in America.

Outstanding observation, Paul! As you noted, Black undertow is the real climate change and our corporate reinforced reliance upon petroleum has permitted us to remain in an almost toxic state of denial.

It bears mentioning how Liberals have played a direct role in maintaining this vicious status quo. Just recently, the supremely disingenuous POS cofounder of Greenpeace, Patrick Moore, has finally admitted that “…the objective should be doubling the number of nuclear plants in operation.” This, after spending the last few decades intentionally conflating nuclear energy and nuclear weapons in the public’s mind.

Consider how just this one individual alone was a pivotal factor in our continued reliance upon oil instead of a timely conversion to nuclear power. Just as often, oil that has been imported ― due to less expensive extraction costs ― from terrorist Islamic tyrannies. This supposedly pro-environmental bastard has, instead, helped drive even more pollution and ecological damage by effectively shutting down the nuclear power industry.

[to be continued]

Zenster said...

As a consequence of this Liberal treachery the Nuclear Regulatory Commission issued its first license for a new plant in forty years . That’s forty years of hemorrhaging Western dollars which have flowed into the hands of Islamic terrorists. Will American Liberals ever be held accountable for this betrayal even as they import more Muslims whose illegal polygamous families bleed our system white?

This pollution of America is only compounded by how Liberals don’t just cosset Blacks, they enable them to breed and even promote infiltration of Black “culture” into White society. Without White promoters (c)rap “music” would never have taken hold in the way it currently has.

It's also important to note, as you have already done, the immense amount of damage to the social fabric of Whites that is caused by extended commutes. Not only is there additional pollution, roadways undergo extra damage, more fatal traffic accidents occur, there is needless wear and tear on vehicles, also a diversion of wealth towards fuel costs, decreased productivity in the workplace due to stressed out or sleep deprived commuters, increased divorce rates from couples that have less quality time to share, elevated delinquency statistics among juveniles who have less adult supervision; the litany of woes imposed upon Whites who seek to escape Black Undertow is nearly endless.

Yet, supposedly, it is Blacks who are “hit hardest” by White flight. This miscarriage of justice needs a thorough airing and blame for urban decay placed squarely on the shoulders of unproductive Blacks.

HW said...

Here are a few charts of what happened to oil production in Romania over the course of the twentieth century:

http://www.theoildrum.com/node/8855#more

Zenster said...

Californian: For a while, the left was pushing the fact that American working class wages were declining while CEO compensation was skyrocketing.

Don't underestimate "The Staggering Social Cost of
U.S. Business Leadership
" (pdf). (Released in 2007)

The Pay Gap

CEOs of large U.S. companies last year made as much money from just one day on the job as average workers made over the entire year. These top executives averaged $10.8 million in total compensation, over 364 times the pay of the average American worker, a calculation based on data from an Associated Press survey of 386 Fortune 500 companies.

● The private equity boom has pushed the pay ceiling for American business leaders considerably further into the economic stratosphere. The top 20 private equity and hedge fund managers, Forbes magazine estimates, pocketed an average $657.5 million, or 22,255 times the pay of an average U.S. worker.

● Workers at the bottom rung of the U.S. economy have just received the first federal minimum wage increase in a decade. But the new minimum wage of $5.85 still stands 7 percent below where the minimum wage stood a decade ago in real terms. CEO pay, over that same decade, has increased by roughly 45 percent.

The Pension and Perks Gap

● CEOs at major American corporations enjoyed, on average, $1.3 million in pension gains last year. By contrast, only 58.5 percent of American households led by a 45-to-54-year old even had a retirement account in 2004, the most recent year with data. Between 2001 and 2004, the retirement accounts of these average households gained only $3,775 in value per year.

CEOs of S&P 500 companies, according to Corporate Library data, retire with an average $10.1 million in their Supplemental Executive Retirement Plan, just one type of special account large American companies routinely set up for their top executives. But most Americans now move into their retirement years with no pension protection whatsoever. In 2004, only 36.3 percent of American households headed by an individual 65 or older held any type of retirement account. The accounts that did exist, on a per household basis, averaged only $173,552 in value, a miniscule 1.7 percent of the dollars in the supplemental accounts set aside for America’s top CEOs.

The top 386 CEOs took in perks worth an average $438,342 in 2006. These perks ranged from using private company jets for personal travel to reimbursements for country club fees, commuter expenses, and even the extra taxes due on bonus income. A minimum wage worker would need to work for 36 years to earn the equivalent of what CEOs averaged just in perks last year.
[emphasis added]

CEO overcompensation is killing American industry and, by extension, killingAmericans through job loss and reduced wealth creation as companies, burdened with exorbitant executive salaries and benefits, must resort to overseas contract manufacturing to maintain their profits and stock value.

America's corporate elite are largely disloyal blood ticks gorging themselves at the public's expense. They are draining this nation of its very lifeblood in a far worse manner than Blacks are with their EBT and welfare. Hard as that may be to imagine.

Zenster said...

Discard: Dollar stores are institutionalized yard sales for Chinese manufacturers.

Effing brilliant observation! No wonder I patronize them less than once a year.

These things have become totems, symbols of the White Man's lost Juju.

Which is why I scour the thrift shops for older and far better built manufactured goods. It is also one of the only ways ― short of paying 10X in price ― to avoid all of the plastic and resin crap being foisted on the American consumer.

I would rather pay $10.00 for a mint condition secondhand Pendleton robe than purchase some poorly stitched $5.00 polyester POS from China.

RobertB said...

You peak oil people are a crack up. I'm sure it will occur, but not in yours or your great grand children's lifetimes. No how matter many times it doesn't occur, you go on believing. It is a Liberal dream built on a desire to return to the lifestyles of the mid 1800's--whereby about 4.5 billion people would have to die off of necessity. EVERYTHING IN OUR MODERN WORLD IS BUILT ON HYDROCARBONS.

Oil wells in the gulf of Mexico replenish themselves--the Gulf may be the mother load of all oil on the planet. Thats why Obama killed exploration and why BP was in there drilling so deep--to lay claim to it and cap it. Which is exactly what they did--cap it.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/archives/peak_oil/index.htm

http://freealternativeenergyresource.com/gulf-oil-is-not-fossil-fuel-it-is-an-abiotic-self-regenerating-compound/

http://tucsoncitizen.com/christianarts/2010/11/04/evidence-that-oil-fields-renew-themselves/

http://www.prouty.org/oil.html

The list goes on. This was discovered completely by accident when oil engineers, doing routine EPA monitoring of capped wells in the Gulf discovered that empty wells were suddenly half full. Over a period of several decades, they were filling up from a much larger, likely vast, reservoir deeper than current technology can tap into.

The Saudis pumped like mad because they realized that if the other morons in OPEC had their way, the US and England would find the oil and pump it--such as Alaskan crude which had been found in the 50's but then denied to the oil companies--until we were in dire straights and Reaqan began his mantra of drilling. Without American and European demand, the Middle East would be back to cooking with camel dung and living in tents.

Peak Oil?

http://money.cnn.com/2011/03/04/news/economy/oil_shale_bakken/index.htm

The Bakken Oil Fields have enough oil alone to make America a net exporter of oil.

Peak oil my ass. They said the same thing in 1920:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teapot_Dome_scandal

A professor of mine in college told us all to watch old Humphrey Bogart films to see the price of oil--more in the 1930's than in the 1960's. and that wasn't even adjusted for inflation. There is so much oil--and he was the first one I to say this to me--that the problem wasn't finding it, the problem was limiting it's volume on the open market to keep the price up.

Read the book, Paul, his sources are legit--I had to read a few of them in college. My specialty on the way to a Masters in poly-sci was Middle Eastern Studies. At the time I thought I wanted to work in an embassy and that was the world's hotspot.

RobertB said...

"Light rail is only "expensive" when union graft is added onto it. Look at the old pictures of Detroit on shorpy.com; streetcars all over the place! It was cheaper and cleaner than horses, and it worked because TNB never would have been tolerated."

Like most everything else you are typing, this is blatantly false. Rail is the single most expensive way to move human beings--buses come in second. The most efficient? a compact car that holds four people hauling four people.

Trains were designed to haul freight--it doesn't matter how large they are or how they are propelled. Electric trains have been around for more than a hundred years. If trains were efficient means for hauling people, the railroads would have made money off of them--they never did. The private rail roads dumped passenger train service when they lost the mail contract to the trucking industry.

You sound like the people who were pushing bicycles in the 1880s complaining that horses were destroying the planet with their dung.

Oil is your friend. The car is the second greatest invention in the last 500 years. It gives us freedom--freedom to go where we want when we want which is why some people hate them. It's like repeating guns, the greatest invention, gives us the freedom to defend ourselves against seemingly unsurmountable odds.

So CAL Snowman said...

RobertB hit the nail on the head, "Peak Oil" is a fable, an absolute myth designed to keep the oil in the ground; much like DeBeers buys up all the diamonds on the open market and stashes them away to keep the illusion alive that diamonds are a "rare" commodity. New vast oil fields are being discovered each and every year. Brazil is developing a nuclear sub to patrol its vast new oil field and Colombia is producing oil in record amounts:

New Oil Fields May Propel Americas To Top of Oil Companies List

Here in the United States, NORTH DAKOTA oil production is booming, with the discovery of the vast new Bakken oil fields in 2010.

From the article: New Boom Reshapes Oil World, Rocks North Dakota

"Two years ago, America was importing about two thirds of its oil. Today, according to the Energy Information Administration, it imports less than half. And by 2017, investment bank Goldman Sachs predicts the US could be poised to pass Saudi Arabia and overtake Russia as the world's largest oil producer."

More from the same article:

"But in the last few years, advances in such technologies as "fracking" and horizontal drilling have made, by some estimates, as much as 11 billion barrels of oil available in the Bakken formation under North Dakota and Montana.There's oil companies coming from all over the country now."

And check out this: North Dakota Oil Drillers Produce 159.2 Million barrels of crude in 2011

They are producing so much oil in North Dakota that they are spending $10 million on BYPASSES to detour heavy traffic around the cities!

And this is just a DROP IN THE BUCKET compared to what is available in the ANWR (Artic National Wildlife Refuge). Of course the EPA (environmental protection agency) has fought tooth and nail to keep oil drilling out of the ANWR (gee I wonder why).

Oh and one final point, BP(British Petroleum) is the NUMBER ONE INVESTOR IN ALTERNATIVE ENERGY in the WORLD! They make money off of stuff like the Deep Horizon oil spill because it re routes dollars into "green energy"........

BP: Too Big to Fail?

Zenster said...

RobertB: Big oil is not fearful of Green Energy because they know nothing will replace oil in the next 200 years.

Not so. LED laser fusion could easily upend the entire energy market.

There is also the proton-boron based pulsed electrostatic fusion reactor designed by Robert Bussard (inventor of the ram jet). Imagine something the size of a refrigerator that could power your entire house continuously for 20 years.

We are only a few decades, if not just years, away from freeing ourselves of any dependence upon Arab oil. It is long past tea to tell Islam:

EAT SAND AND DRINK OIL.

The CEO of EXXON has made it clear repeatedly that there is at least a 200 year supply at present and future forecast demand.

The issue of actual supply centers on extraction cost, which drives down profit, far more than availability. There are massive undersea reserves, they are just very difficult (read: costly) to tap.

There is nothing wrong with oil--the whole of modernity is based upon it and made possible by it. It is not evil--it is a miracle of American ingenuity. It made it possible for your great grandfather to read at night and get an education. It made most of modern medical science possible and it made the whole of of modern chemistry possible.

Gasoline remains unparalleled in terms of energy release per gallon. Nothing even comes close with respect to ease of storage, dispensing and refinement. Hydrogen is looming on the horizon and would work in existing internal combustion engines but its storage in a vehicle is highly problematic.

Metal hydride foam adsorption "sponges" require several hundred degrees of heat in order to liberate the sequestered hydrogen. Not a good thing to have in a moving vehicle.

Current materials technology limits ultra-high pressure gas phase storage of hydrogen to spherical tanks; not a form factor that is very suitable for traditional automobiles.

However, you are correct in pointing out what a benison petroleum has been for mankind. Even after gasoline is replaced as a fuel, the plastics industry alone will still require vast amounts of polymer precursors that are derived from crude oil.

There still remain some very serious hidden costs to oil. None of which, incidentally, are paid for by the refiners.

Military aid and intervention to stabilize otherwise restive Islamic oil producers.

Health impacts from tailpipe emissions such as asthma and other pulmonary disorders cost millions each year and degrade quality of life in general.

Finally, there is a niggling little issue of how the entire gasoline market wouldn't exist if there weren't any roads to drive our cars on. Yet, magically, the refiners have paid next to nothing when it comes to the cost of constructing our freeways.

Imagine the railroads somehow getting taxpayers to pay for all rail bed construction and you begin to see the issue.

Still, I wouldn't want to live in a world where we had not discovered oil. Remember, when DWLs try and tell you that our presence in the MME (Muslim Middle East) is "all about oil"; ask them, "So what?" Then request them to detail how much gasoline and plastics they use and whether they'd like to live in a world that had no oil or natural gas.

Anonymous said...

http://takimag.com/article/love_still_not_colorblind#axzz1nCqYaLRf

Zenster said...

Anonymous (2/23, 2012 10:54 AM): The system wants everybody under its control in the cities. They aren't bringing us together to be one people, one race, either! They want us at each others throats to divide and conquer.

Politicians and the rich delight in provoking horizontal class warfare. It inhibits any ability of the masses to engage in what the elite fear most; vertical class warfare.

Zenster said...

HW: If there was plenty of oil still left in, say, the continental U.S., you wouldn't be seeing so much money squandered developing inferior tar sand deposits or drilling in hazardous areas like the Arctic or the outer continental shelf.

Part of what drives the tar sands projects are government incentives to develop alternative energy. Without those tax credits and other breaks it is doubtful that they could compete effectively.

None of which diminishes the need for ethical oil.

So CAL Snowman said...

PK, I don't think it was the availability of cheap gas so much as the Commercialization and rise of the AUTOMOBILE that was responsible for white flight and as you say, "why we delayed addressing the real reasons racial inequalities persist in America."

As I stated in an earlier article, Americans bought nearly 60 MILLION CARS in the 1950s! This boom in sales necessitated a boom in oil consumption. So even though gas started out relatively cheap, increased demand would necessarily increase the price. However, as Robert B noted above, oil companies in Texas were already limiting pumping in the 1950s in order to artificially increase prices. This article will tell you basically everything you ever wanted to know about oil and OPEC:

OPEC and Crude Oil Chapter 13

In my opinion they basically used the Automobile and the suburbs to fuel the global oil demand to the point we see today. Seriously re-read EVERYTHING ROBERT B said. He is so on point!

AmericanGoy said...

"Rail is the single most expensive way to move human beings--buses come in second. The most efficient? a compact car that holds four people hauling four people."

I am sorry but you are an idiot.

The most efficient way to move is on a ship or a raft, on a river or a sea/ocean.

Rail the most expensive way to move human beings?

Really?

Zenster said...

RobertB: Without American and European demand, the Middle East would be back to cooking with camel dung and living in tents.

Which is exactly where we need to put them again.

Anonymous said...

PK...see LA Times / yday/ article by Carla Rivera

remember the old term 'Hes not college material'..??
meaning low or normal IQ..
then Clinton said 'everyone should
have a college education'...

NO WHERE HERE ARE
EFFORT AND IQ MENTIONED....


...................................

The likelihood of attending a low- or high-performing high school was strongly related to race and ethnicity, the studies found. Patterns of high school segregation — by race, ethnicity and poverty — continued in the community college system because students typically attend the college closest to home.

The patterns have broad implications for long-term economic and social stability, the studies conclude, because nearly 80% of black and Latino students in the postsecondary system attend a community college and only about three in 10 transfer within six years.

RobertB said...

Zenster-

"I would rather pay $10.00 for a mint condition secondhand Pendleton robe than purchase some poorly stitched $5.00 polyester POS from China."

I love my Pendletons--always have. They don't make the good, heavy stuff anymore, but they are still alive and kicking. If you ever get the chance, visit Pendleton, Oregon. Nice town, totally "cowboy". I was last through there in 2008. After checking into a hotel for the night, I went to a bar up the street--big place. I sat at the bar and ordered a whiskey. Then I listened to the locals discussing--calmly, how long it would take for someone to shoot Obama if he got elected. The general consensus was, was that he would probably live as long as he didn't go anywhere out West. They felt pretty damn confident that no westerner would tolerate a black man lecturing them on how to be an American.

Anonymous said...

From Taki article mentioned....

' genius to see that the White females who are generally attracted to Negro males tend to be rougher and less intelligent than the average.
[read from low class family ..$ and edu wise]

This is the same type of White female that likes the bad boy biker or criminal type. The good provider quiet type of White male is repulsive to them, while this is usually the type of White guy that the Asian'

What I see in LA of black with white is usually Black Male with FAT white gal...
In fact such a pair is in building next door.

MB said...

Pardon me, but peak oil is not the subject of this piece. Debate that as you wish but it in no way changes the facts presented in the article.

The point is that the price of gasoline, for whatever reason, is another factor in BRA.

Anonymous said...

And..I just posted from Taki...

To the north is inter racial couple..shes fat and white
to the south [again just one building away, I am sandwiched in]
WAS similar....
A VERY THIN BLACK GUY AND A HUGE, SEVERLY OBESE UNATTRACTIVE WHITE WOMAN...
I am in Santa Monica..so they were professionals..she a nurse, he a limo driver...

Anonymous said...

Long ago a beautiful white woman said...
the only guys I know who like fat women are N****rs.
Weigh in [pun]..do you see black males with fat women...of any and all colors?

HW said...

The debate about Peak Oil was interesting and contentious for years until November 2010 when the IEA admitted that Peak Oil in conventional oil had been reached in 2006.

HW said...

Here's a list of all the countries which are now past Peak Oil. It includes countries like Romania, Mexico, and Indonesia that have no plausible reason not to export oil when it has reached such a high price:

http://www.theoildrum.com/node/5576

RobertB said...

Zenster--

all of those technologies you list show promise, but the problem is, oil will have to reach prices of $350.00/BBL before they become even remotely economically viable--long before that happens, the US taxpayer would be demanding that we use a neutron bomb on the middle east and anyone else withholding oil from us.

Did you know, adjusting for inflation, it is cheaper to extract oil today than it was 100 years ago? Technology, of which American Companies have a lock on it, has made it far cheaper to extract today than even in my grandfather's time.

Methinks, as someone else pointed out, that most of you are too young to remember the 70's oil crises. People who didn't live through it have no idea how much oil underpins our economy. The price of every single thing you need to survive is based in some part on the price of oil. Everything.

I was in college when all of that hit for the second time in the late 70's. Jiminey cricket Carter telling us all to put on sweaters and accept the fact that America had seen it's better days, the time had come to live like shit. We weren't having it--hence the Reagan landslide. From one week to the next the price of food noticeably rose in the super markets. Real unemployment was somewhere around 18% by 1980, inflation was at least 16%. The official rate was 12.5%, but loans hit 19.5% on home mortgages. There is an historical real rate of 3% on loans, thus, the real rate of inflation had to be 16%.

BTW, to the other poster, Bakken Oil is not subsidized. Obama and company want to kill it off. The oil pipeline would have served the Bakken fields as well. There are political factors at the moment affecting oil prices, but over all, the oil producing nations must have at least $85.00/BBL to fuel their socialist machines. Thus, your government is using it's power to underwrite third world socialism. If drilling were allowed, oil would drop to below $60.00BBL and those governments would collapse.

But you know what the best thing of all about the Reagan Boom was? The 80's was a time when it was great to be white again. Everything was aimed at young white people--everything about us was glorified. All of America was a whitopia. So much fun.

RobertB said...

Here's a last thought on this. Blacks are here. I wouldn't wish the death of suburbs in the hopes living with blacks (and Mexicans) will wake white people up. They already know, thats why they live where they live.

From a defensive position, its far better to have the enemy surrounded as we are, then to be like Europeans, who built their slums around the cities.. Their cities are surrounded by the enemy. Its much easier, in the event of racial warfare, to have your enemy already surrounded and thus easier to starve out. Plus, all you have to do is block the freeways with rolled over semis to end their flight.

I realize this means the loss of billions of dollars in each city just in infrastructure--water and sewer mains, but, that is a cheap price to pay in the event of war.

Anonymous said...

Is peak oil relevant to the dialogue? will its discussion help us or hurt us?

Anonymous said...

Peak oil is an artificial problem, designed to bleed the white western middle class of capital and power. Like buying protection from the mob, eventually they bleed you dry and toss you in the scrap heap. You pay them to "solve" a problem they create.

W74 said...

Light rail is only "expensive" when union graft is added onto it. Look at the old pictures of Detroit on shorpy.com; streetcars all over the place! It was cheaper and cleaner than horses, and it worked because TNB never would have been tolerated.

Rational,
I'm one of the few conservatives I know who's actually FOR mass transit (must be cheap, and must actually go places). You're right, the only way it can work is if you removed negros.

People in MD absolutely REFUSE to use trans. The trains are fairly empty when I fly past them down I-795 or I-83. Why? Blacks. The biggest complaint here is over safety and the fact that the system doesn't go enough places. Get rid of the TNB, and actually ENFORCE things like paying for a ticket and things will change.

I'll be going to DC early March and will be taking the MARC train. I've used the metro, but never the MARC before. I'll let you guys know how it goes. The D.C. rail system is somewhat decent on the weekends when there's enough tourists hitting the museums to keep TNB down.

There's also simple things like turnstils to 'help' make sure people pay, unlike Baltimore's honor-system light rail. Don't they know that the honor system only works with White people who are honest?

W74 said...

But you know what the best thing of all about the Reagan Boom was? The 80's was a time when it was great to be white again. Everything was aimed at young white people--everything about us was glorified. All of America was a whitopia. So much fun.

Robert B,

Too bad I spent most of my youth in the 90s.

All we ever got growing up was teen angst and diversity training.

RobertB said...

Oh, AMericangoyboy. I'm an idiot? If there was money in moving people by rail, why did the railroads walk away from it when they lost the mail contracts?

I like trains--well, I used to, Amtak trains are garbage. I Loved traveling by rail when I was a boy. You have never seen anything like first class rail travel when it was still privately owned. To get an idea, watch the movie "Orient Express". That is exactly what it was like even in the 1960's and up until the late 70's when it was fully taken over by the government.

The last time I went cross country in private rail cars was 1976. The last time I rode a train to the west coast was 2008.

Did you pull that out of your ass because your liberal momma likes trains? Trains are only the very latest way to move black people around. thats all they are.

This proves you wrong and me right:

http://www.templetons.com/brad/transit-myth.html

I had looked for a study done in the UK from which I quoted you above, but my search string isn't turning it up.

Here's the historical perspective:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/timeline/streamliners/

"Congress creates Amtrak in an effort to relieve railroads of the burdens of passenger traffic. For the first time, the U.S. government will provide direct financial assistance to the rail passenger service. Having signed contracts with virtually all the privately owned railroads, Amtrak begins operation in 1971. Under Amtrak, passenger rail service continues to lose money, as it has since the 1930s"

They were losing money long before the advent of the Interstate system. The only thing that ever made them pay was that they not only hauled the mail, but it was actually processed on the train while it moved down the tracks. Giving the mail service to the trucking industry was a political payoff that doomed the passenger rails.

This is pretty common knowledge, you know. During the great depression, 1000's of people were migrating across this country by car, not by rail, looking for work. Already by the 1930s it was far cheaper to travel by car than by rail. Those people who were migrating were dirt poor--you know, like in "The Grapes Of Wrath"? If the railroads couldn't make money moving millions upon millions of people every day at a time when 2/3's of all passenger traffic was by rail and energy was literally dirt cheap--what makes you think they can magically do it now when the costs of building are 100 times greater than they were then?

It's historical fact. There isn't a single rail line moving people that even breaks even. How stupid can you be not to see that a train's strength is moving tonnage. People are not tonnage. Let me put it in simple terms. Does it cost more to move four people 100 miles in a Ford Expedition, or a Honda civic? Sure, the Ford can haul more tonnage, but four people don't weigh two tons, do they? Simple math. If trains were cheaper, people would use them.

I feel sorry for you that you attended public school and never learned real history. But be that as it may, no industry insider will dispute what I have said. The only people who maintain otherwise are Liberals who want to take your car and your freedom away from you.

Anonymous said...

"as the purchasing power of the dollar declines"

When Rome fell the proportion of actual silver in their silver coins was 0.2%.

RobertB said...

Peak oil was not part of the article, but manipulation by the government of oil prices and transportation costs to end suburbia is rightly part of it. Forcing people back into the city is a liberal blueprint for multiculturalism.

http://books.google.com/books?id=dkIH78o1_OoC&pg=PA135&lpg=PA135&dq=liberalism+and+transportation+corridors&source=bl&ots=PZ7T4N6wPc&sig=32tyet_N1da5EG-4Clqttun_0CE&hl=en&sa=X&ei=7AZHT6SwEqbi0QHn_sidDg&ved=0CDIQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=liberalism%20and%20transportation%20corridors&f=false

It's all part of a master plan, people. Transportation corridors between nations and continents is also part of the plan--to facilitate the movement of third world peoples to the first world.

Winston Smith said...

I was just thinking what the ratio was of times I've been threatened by blacks vs whites. Id guess it was around 100 to 1 , off the cuff.

I don't normally watch tv but saw a few minutes of a nature show on whales and dolphins. Guess what? evil white men slaughtered the whales and the whales fought back mightily, and they implied dolphins are smarter than people based on some brain cells and whatnot. A brave and smart Mexican first started petting whales in 1970 because they'd forgiven us and had empathy for humans, and he lectured YT about how we all needed to get along with our fishy friends, etc.

So much bs propaganda in just a few minutes.

Television is *true* hate speech. Disgusting.

RobertB said...

W74--

Ronald Reagan was so white he made it cool to be white. Look at the media of the 80's--it's almost all directed at white youth and their making money and living the good life and you almost never see blacks in it like you do now and in the mid-late 70's. No one even talked about black people let alone their perpetual "plight".

Rational--

Trollies are not trains. They are a while 'nother animal altogether. We had them here before I was born--my mother loved them. They just tore the last of the tracks up near me a few years back when repaving Snelling Avenue.

I don't live out East--I live in the West, really. We are not so tightly packed together here and things have almost always been spread out. Driving is part of life. To this day, it is common for middle class kids (and even working poor if they work) to run out on your 16th birthday and take your driver's test and get a car. Parents here like their kids having cars so they don't have to drive them. As a kid, I rode my bike or took the bus. I and everyone I knew hated the bus--it's cold here in the winter--real cold. Cars are cozy, have nice music, go where I want them to go when I want them to go. It takes me 15 minutes to get to downtown Minneapolis and 10 to downtown St. Paul from where I live. If I took the bus--or the train )to Minneapolis) it would take me between 30 and 45 minutes. No thanks. Around here, only poor people take public transportation for the most part.

You guys live in cities that were built before trains and cars and trains were made a part of it. While it's true that where I live was built in they heyday of trains, cars came quickly on their heels because they were cheaper to operate and far more convenient. My grandfather had his own rail car for going to livestock shows back in the 30's and 40's. The main rail for the Great Northern run to Chicago went right through a corner of the farm (still does) and he had a small siding built there. It had two large box stalls and a baggage compartment in the back and living quarters in the front--including a bathroom. He got rid of it in the late 40's because it had become cheaper and easier to haul the animals by truck all the way (instead of just from rail head to show) and far more convenient. That included the Chicago livestock show.

The further west you go, the faster and cheaper it is to travel by car. In the Dakotas and Montana, it is very common to see ranchers driving Porsches and doing 100 MPH down the interstates. Sounds funny, I know, but it's true.

Concerned Citizen said...

Looks like blacks are having a chimpout over shoes again.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/Foot-Locker-draws-out-of-control-crowds/-/1637132/8945358/-/jvwptoz/-/index.html

Concerned Citizen said...

Blacks are having a chimpout again over shoes.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/Foot-Locker-draws-out-of-control-crowds/-/1637132/8945358/-/jvwptoz/-/index.html

Whiskey said...

Re the Takimag article. I knew a bunch of smart, clued-in professional White women in the South. They knew the score. And they drooled over various Black athletes. Desire is what it is. Eliza Dushku and Rick Fox? I'd hardly call her trashy, her mother was/is a College Professor, her brothers lawyers or doctors.

Most clued in White professional women are certainly aware of the downsides of actual relationships with the kinds of Black guys available. But my experience is that the desire is still there. Hypergamy is hypergamy, and the attraction of physical dominance and thuggery is there for most women. The smart ones tamp that down, hard.

Paul's point is spot-on. Social peace was bought with cheap gas enabled White flight. Remove that and have suddenly, Whites having to live in places like Compton, or Watts, or Willowbrook, or East LA, and you get a totally different response. SWPL-ism, DWL-ism, becomes unaffordable.

RobertB said...

Hey Winston--

thats why I turned it off a long time ago. I use Netflix to get documentaries for my son and myself. I also like to watcher Turner's movie channel for the old, classic stuff. It's good for my soul and my children's education. I remember telling my oldest, then about 17, that America really did look that way back then--even Cleveland, Ohio. We were at the National High School Wrestling Championships and he couldn't believe what he saw there. So, when we got home, I drove him to North Minneapolis which was once a white, working class neighborhood. Now it's full of feral blacks mostly from Chicago.

You see, Winston, Now a days they teach kids that old movies were like that due to racism--deliberately excluding minorities from them. Fact is, they were 10% or less of the population, but younger people don't know that either because they don't tell them it was once a white country. Turn it off Winston. Read a good book about George Washington while you listen to a good stereo. Very pleasant.

SKIP said...

"The end of escaping Black-Run America (BRA) is upon us. It's no longer economically viable"\

And the expanding MARTA system proposal will be bringing predatory Africans to your new neighborhoods with speed and efficiency and returning said Africans with their loot.

YT said...

There are so many good comments I wish to respond to but can't. However, I would like to share a short book that brings much of BRA, white flight, oil and TV propaganda into a new light:

http://www.amazon.com/How-You-Kill-Million-People/dp/0849948355

Spoiler alert! You can kill 11 million people by lying to them.

Everything our leaders and elites say are lies. No duh right? Well, the historical implications are not good. There will likely never be any great awakening to BRA. We are far more likely to be slaughtered in mass outright or intentionally allowed to die off by the millions while most of our "fellow americans" put their heads in the sand......until their time comes. Read the book, it will only take an hour or two.

Secondly, the whole idea of standing up for white culture in the face of "the greater good" as interpreted by politicians has been tried before in the civil war and reconstruction period. More importantly, the civil war sort of settled once and for all the debate between the federalists and the jeffersonians.

At this juncture, the consolidated power in washington is deemed the supreme law and those politicians have so little respect for their constituents that lying is normal. They also love them some black people. Those three things tell me, after reading the book above, that we're far more likely to be allowed to die off in the millions than risk threatening the good intentions of our sociopathic BRA pimps.

Polpot, Mao, Stalin.....they all had good intentions for the greater good too.

Californian said...

Winston Smith said... Television is *true* hate speech. Disgusting.

Unlike your namesake, we can today turn off the telescreen. To make one of my common rants, race realists ought to make a political campaign out of getting people to dump their television sets. Consider the fear this would create among DWLs when they find out that people are rejecting their primary agitprop media.

http://www.turnoffyourtv.com/

Playing Roots Backwards said...

Right now, at this very moment, off the Louisiana coast, there are oil tankers taking on American oil that is bound for China.

Also at this very moment, there are tankers that are owned or leased by American corporations that are loaded with Saudi oil that is headed to China.

Oil companies are in business to sell oil. Demand is down in America, so they are taking their business elsewhere. That's just business.

Right now drill rigs are stacked and idle all the way from Texas to Canada. The oil companies have the leases and the mineral rights, and they can get the onshore permits with little difficulty. The reason they aren't drilling is simple: they can still purchase oil from foreign sources cheaper than they can get it out of the ground in America.

The oil companies pay the drilling companies an average of $26,000 dollars per day to drill their wells. I addition to that, they have to pay for all rig maintenance. Many of the rigs operating onshore were either built in the 1940's or 50's or they are copies of those ancient machines. Either way, they are high maintenance.

When I first moved to Texas in 2005, I heard T. Boone Pickens tell Jimmy Bridges that there were 1000 rigs drilling for natural gas every day in Johnson county alone. Very few rigs in Texas and Oklahoma were harvesting oil. That is still true today.

When regular gasoline hits $6 per gallon at the pumps, the oil companies will hire all of the idle rigs and they will even try to hire the operating rigs away from the companies that are working the Barnett Shale and we will see a frenzy of domestic oil production.

That's just business.

Zenster said...

RobertB …all of those technologies you list show promise, but the problem is, oil will have to reach prices of $350.00/BBL before they become even remotely economically viable…

If Bussard's fusion system can be brought online, that revolutionary technology has the potential of cheapening production of electricity to the point where mass use of electric cars could put a serious dent in our oil consumption.

I am unable to find an online image of the 2001 LLNL (Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory) Sankey energy flow diagram. On that page is a subscript note that reads:

Displace 70% of existing transport with solar powered networks. Petroleum reduced from 25.9 to 5 quads. [emphasis added]

(A copy of the 2002 Sankey energy flow diagram is provided at the link. Regrettably, it does not contain the same footnote. I will gladly email Paul a reproduction if anyone requests it.)

Dropping from 25.9 to a mere 5 quads of petroleum consumption ― an +80% reduction in use ― means that internal production could possibly sustain America's oil requirements. Therefore, activating a cheap source of electricity like Bussard's proton-Boron fusion reactor could release America from its hideous dependency upon Arab oil.

That would bring jihad to a screeching halt.

Need I mention how every questionable ally of Western civilization should have its nuclear entrée restricted to Bussard's fusion technology so that it utterly prevents all access by such unbstable loons to enriched actinide-related technology?

…long before that happens, the US taxpayer would be demanding that we use a neutron bomb on the middle east and anyone else withholding oil from us.

A few more 9-11 style attacks (or worse) will see that happening long before oil hits $350.00/BBL.

Permit me to say that I am impressed with your savvy in citing the use of neutron (enhanced radiation weapon) bombs. They would be the ideal way of eliminating any Islamic threat whilst leaving most of the MME (Muslim Middle East) petroleum extraction infrastructure intact.

Despite how we were supposed to have eliminated such "anti-civilian" devices from our nuclear arsenal, not too many people realize that any regular fusion weapon can be converted over to a neutron bomb with relative ease. Veterans that I have talked with, who were directly involved with the handling and maintenance of America's nuclear arsenal, have expressed unashamed dismay that atomic reprisal against Islam hasn't already occurred.

To date, it still remains only a matter of time before this happens. America's bipartisan epidemic of PCMC (Politically Correct Multi-Culturalism), literally assures a level of inaction that will trigger the Muslim holocaust. Not to be caught slacking Islam, too, is toiling relentlessly in the pursuit of this outcome as it strives to concoct an atrocity of such staggering dimensions whereby any reluctance to employ Massively Disproportionate Retaliation™ will be obviated instantaneously.

Zenster said...

W74: All we ever got growing up was teen angst and diversity training.

You have my sincerest sympathies.

As someone who was raised in an era of unlocked front doors and cars with keyless ignitions, it grieves me beyond measure to see the flower of White American youth having to endure Liberalism's mixed message of PCMC (Politically Correct Multi-Culturalism).

The toxin of spitting cobras has nothing on PCMC.

Zenster said...

RobertB: Peak oil was not part of the article, but manipulation by the government of oil prices and transportation costs to end suburbia is rightly part of it. Forcing people back into the city is a liberal blueprint for multiculturalism.

BRA-F%&KING-OH!!!

Sheila said...

I read the post and comments yesterday, and thought about them quite a bit. I don't know why the explicit connection between high priced oil/suburbia/White flight never occurred to me before. Of course, all the articles in the paper decrying the Whiteness of the boring suburbs were written by the hipsters so much more savvy and edgy than I, so I easily dismissed them as the usual criticism by youth of those so old-fashioned as to be married with children. What was obvious, but never mentioned, was the race issue. Good schools, or "quality of life" were cited by all the DWLs as reasons for moving their family to the suburbs or even further. Then some of the city denizens actually reproduced, somehow found it necessary to move to the dreaded suburbs, and began working assiduously to "fix" everything they found wrong. One local boondoggle they championed was a suburban regional arts center, to be paid for by public funds, of course. Slight glitch, of course, was that the foolish taxpayers wouldn't get on board! It was pushed for years and over the course of numerous elections, and only now has seemed to die (almost - but these things stay dormant for decades and then suddenly reappear).

The connection is so blindingly obvious, now - if Whites can't commute safely in their private vehicles, they can't afford to live apart from the multicultural hordes. Keep them from escaping to their enclaves (along with their money) and the black-run cities have an assured funding source. I remember all the fanfare with the local public transportation station first opened (on the east side of town, where the majority of the blacks and hispanics live). Now there are articles about the crime on the trains, the lack of paying customers (honor system of course), and the only insinuated but dreaded reality that their most efficient role is bringing the minorities out to the suburbs. Heck, I remember as a kid when driving visiting relatives around D.C. was complicated by massively snarled traffic due to digging for the Metro system. How shiny and clean it all appeared in the beginning - despite the black conductors and black supervisors. Same purpose, of course. Once the business commuters finish their morning and evening travails, the only ones riding are the blacks out looking for some White malls to hang out in or some DWLs to harass.

I rode the train once home from college in 1976. It was filthy and slow and I never rode again. The trains in the USSR, when I rode them in 1981, actually seemed more efficient. The car train from Belgrade to the border with Austria in 1990 was superior, with clean sleeping cars.

I well remember the 70s oil embargo, the long gas lines, and the careful calculation before driving anywhere. There is no Reagan (pro-White despite his many short comings) on the horizon today. Interesting times, folks.

Mr. Rational said...

RobertB: EVERYTHING IN OUR MODERN WORLD IS BUILT ON HYDROCARBONS.

That ought to scare you.

Oil wells in the gulf of Mexico replenish themselves--the Gulf may be the mother load of all oil on the planet.

(that's "mother lode".)  If they replenish themselves, answer me two things:

1.  Why has Mexico's Cantarell field production crashed?

2.  If oil has always been created at the cubic mile or so per year that we've been using lately, where are the ten million cubic miles of oil that would have been created in the last ten million years alone?  Ten million cubic miles is a layer about 250 feet thick on the entire surface of the Earth; if it was just on the continents and not the deep sea floor, it would be closer to 1000 feet thick.  Everywhere.  Where is it?  And where's the stuff from the 100 million years before that?  It should be oozing out of every crack and pore.

It doesn't.  It doesn't because it's not there.  It's not there because it was never there.

It's painfully obvious that these claims aren't just unfounded, they're outrageously wrong—"the-earth-is-flat" wrong.  Now ask yourself "cui bono":  who benefits from this idea?  Obviously, the people with the most oil left to sell.  That would be the Russians (where the "abiotic oil" theory originated) and the Saudis.  You're carrying water for them.

It's got to be some miracle of KGB subversion that escaping from the DWL PC mindset of multiculturalism and "all races are equal" sends people into another camp where the prevailing mindset is "oil is forever, Real Patriots drive huge trucks!"  Either way, they win.  Yuri Bezmenov would cry in his vodka to see the rampant credulity.

The Bakken Oil Fields have enough oil alone to make America a net exporter of oil.

Your own article says this:

"According to Harold Hamm, president of the energy company Continental Resources, it could produce a million barrels a day by 2020.

That's only a fraction of the 9.8 million barrels a day the country produces and an even smaller fraction of the 19.2 million it consumes, but it's significant."

The USGS's median estimate for the technically (not economically) recoverable oil in the Bakken is 3.65 billion barrels.  If you could pull it out at 10 million barrels a day so the US could be a net exporter, it would last one year.  If you did manage to squeeze 11 billion barrels out of it, you'd get... 3 years.

Rail is the single most expensive way to move human beings--buses come in second.

Then why were cities, including Detroit, chock-full of "light rail" a century ago?  Not because it was expensive, because it was cheap.  So were electric inter-urban lines.  Rail can be built with horses and hand tools; you can't maintain a freeway that way, let alone build one.  Freeways only won because of tax subsidies.

Rail is only expensive if you build it with corrupt contractors employing union labor and let the criminal element destroy the ROI by keeping the public from enjoying its work.  That's most of it these days, but it's not the fault of rail.

Mr. Rational said...

[continued]
Oil is your friend.

But not my only friend.  The people who export it are largely my enemies, and too much dependence on oil is dangerous to my well-being.  We can move our freight by heavy rail, we can move ourselves largely with batteries.  People are working on turning garbage to fuel for the rest of our needs.  If you change your life to need more oil (deliberately or not), you are going to be in a world of hurt.

The USA has more energy in uranium already mined than in all the oil and coal that could ever be produced here.  It's not even close; 50,000 containers, each holding the energy of 100 MILLION barrels of oil.  Already mined, refined, and sitting there.  Waiting for something like GE's S-PRISM to unlock it.  But you need an electric car to drive anywhere on it.

As a closing note, tell me where you'd rather live:  in an early Detroit with streetcars and no Blacks, or modern Metro Detroit with a mobile criminal element?

If there was money in moving people by rail, why did the railroads walk away from it when they lost the mail contracts?

Because they were competing with taxpayer-built freeways on untaxed rights-of-way.  Government was picking winners.

SKIP is absolutely right.  Light rail+TNB=disaster.

YT needs to look a little further.  The National Socialists used a lot more than just lies, and you can kill many more than 11 million people by stealing all their food; ask the Ukrainians about that, or google "Holomodor".

Therefore, activating a cheap source of electricity like Bussard's proton-Boron fusion reactor could release America from its hideous dependency upon Arab oil.

There are at least 2 domestic US fission technologies that could do the same thing.  They were stopped by politics.

My next car is going to be partially or totally electric.  I'll generate my own power if I have to; both wind and solar will work here.

Midwestern said...

I believe that Peak Oil is a scare tactic, and a way to punish whites who flee to the suburbs. Same with small cars vs. SUVs, bike lanes, and light rail. The whites will have to fund all of this.

Sheila said: "One local boondoggle they championed was a suburban regional arts center, to be paid for by public funds, of course. Slight glitch, of course, was that the foolish taxpayers wouldn't get on board!"

Sheila, we have a Indiana suburb called "Carmel", and your comment is EXACTLY what happened there. The taxpayers keep paying and paying and the project is a failure. I know artists who have bailed out already. They are trying to invent an art scene, but it looks and feels plastic.

The whites in Carmel are not hipsters or DWLs, but much older, conservative, and only care about the Indianapolis Colts football team and good schools. Now, our Mayor wants to expand transit to Carmel from the inner-city in Indianapolis, which will only import crime and destroy the white monopoly there. Carmel also has a new water park with $9 admission, but when I took my kids last summer, it appeared that the high cost was not keeping the "youths" out.

Carmel Arts And Design District:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQCh-imMz-U&feature=player_embedded

Caiden said...

Midwestern,

I find it fascinating when the political leaders in really nice areas decide to 'open' the area up to blacks.

If I remember the mall riot where blacks decided if Drake and some other pinhead were around that fighting each other would cause them to sing and dance was where the local liberals opened up rail service or bus lines to ghetto areas.

I mean, Hollywood liberals live in mansions far from the other whites who they want to see suffer. But if you're a citizen of the area that's about to be overrun then it's suicide. I guess it's the two concepts of white liberals, those who know the truth but pretend we're ok to appear nice, and the really deluded ones who think the inner city blacks will come to the art fair, smile and be nice, and finally do an impromptu rap and breakdance demonstration.

Mr. Rational said...

I believe that Peak Oil is a scare tactic, and a way to punish whites who flee to the suburbs.

Peak oil is another one of those issues that won't go away if you pretend it's not there.  When DWLs pretended racial differences didn't exist, they didn't go away.  When fundamentalists pretended that the scientific evidence behind evolution didn't exist, it didn't go away.  When the Soviets pretended human nature didn't exist, it didn't go away.

Peak oil is geology, plain and simple.  Oil is created by processes which operate very, very slowly (if they are operating anywhere in the world today, which they may not).  Any rate of extraction faster than the rate of creation will eventually exhaust the resource.  A finite planet cannot do anything else.  It gets worse because major new consumers (Chindia) are entering the market in a big way just as the peak resource extraction rate is passing.  If you don't believe this is geology at work, look at the US oil production curve since 1970 and tell me who's created this "scare tactic" and how they did it.

This is a problem related to BRA because cheap oil has so far been the way for YT to escape from it.  Cheap oil no longer exists; the cheap, easy-to-get oil is gone, and what's left is going to cost money.

Same with small cars vs. SUVs

Small cars will get you farther from BRA than an SUV will.  We should applaud high gas prices, because the NAMs in their Chevy Caprices and Escalades will run out of gas before they can get to the suburbs to rob them while YT in his Priuses and Volts can still get to work.

Kylie said...

"To make one of my common rants, race realists ought to make a political campaign out of getting people to dump their television sets."

I don't watch any TV on my TV. I use it to watch movies. I have Netflix because it has so many great old movies and TV series. I seldom watch any new releases and haven't gone to a movie theatre since 2000.

I honestly feel better not having all that PC garbage coming into my home every time I turn on the TV. The other night I watched Shane again and to go along with it, I reread the novel. So much better than any of the crap being produced or published nowadays.

Zenster said...

Kylie: The other night I watched Shane again and to go along with it, I reread the novel.

That is one of the greatest ways to really understand both the author and director. Providing, of course, that the director is worth a dime.

Please consider doing the same with Hashiell Dammit… er, I mean, Dashiell Hammett's "The Maltese Falcon". It is impossible to imagine anyone playing Sam Spade but Bogart, nor Joe Cairo except Peter Lorre, right down to his mincing accent.

I have seen few better, if any, interpretations of a book into film and know that you will feel the same after reading it and, then, watching the movie.

Another gold mine is Hulu.com's archive of Alfred Hitchcock's television programs. He could do more with thirty minutes than most directors can do with a two hour movie. Plus you get to see tyros like Redford, Nimoy and nearly every other big star you can imagine trying out their wings.

That site also has the original "Outer Limits" series, among which is the ne plus ultra episode, "Demon with the Glass Hand" (by Harlan Ellison), filmed in Los Angeles' art deco masterpiece Bailey Building. With all the bazillion dollar blockbusters being filmed, it is hard to recall that "The Outer Limits" series had a (1960s) budget of $100K per episode; almost one million dollars in today's money.

RobertB said...

Rational--

You are irrational. You didn't bother reading a single link. You sound like a purely liberal green type.


Fact: The electrical grid has no way to support the demand battery powered cars would place on the system. Worse--look at how far they go. Just enough, really, to get around an urban environment.

The railroads were not competing with Interstates in 1930!! they didn't even start to build them until the late 50's.

The oil fields that were found originally were simply leaking out of the ground. I thought that was common knowledge. The fields you sight as proof of "Peak Oil" were always weak--just read about the problems the Germans faced in WWII with the Romanian fields as an example and the Japanese with the Indonesian fields. Technology changes, so does knowledge about the Earth. Mexican fields? They suffer from the same problem the Russian fields suffer from--lack of modern technology due to a lack of American involvement. The Americans will never go back to Mexico--or the Brits, because of how Mexico seized their property in the first place as well as it's ongoing keltpocracy. No one trusts Russia, either. American companies continued to do business with the Saudis because the Saudis paid them for their property when they nationalized it. But, Russia's proven reserves have multiplied enormously over the last ten years. There is also reason to believe there are huge deposits offshore and in Siberia. THe same is true of the islands in the Pacific that China has been laying claim to--some so small they station a single soldier on it to maintain sovereignty. The Chinese will use horizontal boring to get American oil from the Gulf--thanks to Obama.

http://www1.american.edu/ted/ice/spratly.htm

http://www.npr.org/2011/09/12/140405282/cuban-offshore-drilling-plans-raise-u-s-concerns

There is nothing on the immediate horizon to replace it with. More troubling facts for you:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railroad_Commission_of_Texas

http://www.wtrg.com/prices.htm

It's ALWAYS been about controlling supply. Before the Texas Oil Commission, it was Standard Oil's control of 90% of the world's refining capacity--Standard never owned any oil wells in it's heyday. The controlled refining and therefor prices paid by refiners, hence the supply of oil on the market.

Dude--face it, you're a liberal who got hit over the head by BRA and you're still trying to make sense of it all. There are more operating oil fields today than ever in our history. And you, oil hater, have nothing to replace it with but pie in the sky Utopian nonsense.

Zenster said...

RobertB: Fact: The electrical grid has no way to support the demand battery powered cars would place on the system. Worse--look at how far they go. Just enough, really, to get around an urban environment.

This is another reason why Greenpeace cofounder Patrick Moore needs to rot in everlasting hell. Maybe, if we had been building nuclear reactors for the last 40 years, today we might have the grid capacity to support large scale electrification of personal transportation. As it stands, we are woefully underpowered for any such thing.

Another niggling fact that the environmentalists don't like to talk about is how to quickly "refuel" an electric vehicle. Dumping several kilowatts into a battery array is a dangerous affair and doing it quickly is another matter altogether.

This is also a perfect time to bring up another aspect of Liberal "soft racism". The Left wants everyone to "go green", including the Third World. Guess what, how do you run a steel mill on solar panels? Answer; you don't.

By trying to impose alternative "clean" energy on the Third World, Liberals are effectively barring those countries from ever coming up the industrial ladder. There is no better way to keep a nation in eternal poverty than by preventing it from industrializing.

Rusty Mason said...

"... and that demand for oil has permanently outstripped supply,"

That's impossible. Demand adjusts to supply.

Rusty Mason said...

The quantity of oil is not as important as the effort needed to extract usable oil. Cost has nothing to do with this part of the equation. The important ratio is energy-in vs. energy-out.

It is true that we have plenty of oil. However, what our leaders are not saying is that we are running low on the stuff that's easiest to get to, the 1/30 ratio stuff. The fact that we are looking at the 1/10 and 1/5 ratio oil (tar sands, shale oil, super-deep water oil, etc.) shows that this is true.

This lower ratio means that we must extract more faster in order to keep our overall energy supply at the same, just to keep the economy, which is driven by ever expanding energy use, from totally collapsing.

It cannot go on like this much longer. If we don't start producing faster again, the existing depression will, to the glee of white-haters like Kunstler, accelerate.

Rusty Mason said...

"Oil wells in the gulf of Mexico replenish themselves--the Gulf may be the mother load of all oil on the planet.

Mr. Rational refuted this very well. The ambiotic oil theory is entirely unproven. Still, even if reservoirs did replenish, they do so much more slowly than we pump it out. Opening new fields is difficult, time-consuming, and expensive. Do you really think that every oil company is sitting on zillions of barrels of oils the way that DeBoers sits on rooms full of diamonds?

The reservoirs we are finding nowadays are not as big as advertised and they do not contain the good free stuff. Their oil is thick and need lots more refining. Oil fields fall off rather rapidly once they peak. It takes more energy to get out the remaining stuff than what we get in return. These are facts that do not square with what RobertB is saying.

Zenster said...

While I find the topic of oil entertaining to a certain extent, what all of you should be a lot more concerned about is water.

If you think we're pumping oil too fast, then be advised how massive aquifers that were filled during the age of dinosaurs are being drained at warp speed.

Again, if you think the wars over oil are something, just wait until the wars over water begin.

Mankind lived well enough for millennia without petroleum. Without water, humans die in a week.

To use an oft-cited example; halt all wheat exportation to the MME (Muslim Middle East) and mass starvation begins in a few short weeks. That's because what they're really importing isn't wheat, it's water. Ending jihad is just that simple but don't expect the current crop of Western political leadership to ever manifest the scrotal endowment required for that.

All the oil in the world will not, by itself, create water. Look for "water poverty" to seriously shift global politics long before peak oil does.

Mr. Rational said...

I don't know whether to laugh or cry at RobertB.  After I read his reference* and quoted it back to him to show it did not support his claim, he said this:

You didn't bother reading a single link.

"Talk sense to a fool, and he calls you foolish."

RobertB, I have worked at being an energy maven since the first oil-price shock.  I've forgotten more about energy than you ever knew.  You need to get out of your little echo chamber and start learning, fast, or you will not just be in a world of hurt, you'll take a lot of other people with you (White America is all in this together).

[cot'd... limiting to 2 links per comment]

Mr. Rational said...

Let's take a look at a few claims.

AssertionThe electrical grid has no way to support the demand battery powered cars would place on the system.

Reality:  RobertB did zero research, otherwise he would have found that Plug-In Electric Vehicles Could Help the Grid.  The grid has considerable excess capacity at night, and existing plants could handle millions of new plug-in vehicles without any difficulty.  (Search terms:  "electric vehicles" grid capacity)

AssertionThe railroads were not competing with Interstates in 1930!!

Reality:  WPA projects were competing with railroads long before the Interstate system was begun.

AssertionThe oil fields that were found originally were simply leaking out of the ground. I thought that was common knowledge.

Reality:  This is true.  Even today, one of the major methods of finding new oil deposits is through detection of seeps in ocean waters.  But the rate of discovery is far below the rate of consumption.  The world burns over 80 million barrels/day, 30 billion bbl/yr more or less.  Discovering a few billion bbl here and there falls way behind.

AssertionMexican fields? They suffer from the same problem the Russian fields suffer from--lack of modern technology due to a lack of American involvement.

Reality:  Cantarell was re-developed with modern technology, specifically nitrogen injection (to replace the depleted gas drive).  Still, somehow, its production fell from 2.1 million bbl/d to some hundreds of thousands and is still falling.  What happened to this "replenishment from below" that RobertB claims will be our salvation?  I will give you a hint:  if it exists, it is far too slow to keep up with our appetite.

Dude--face it, you're a liberal who got hit over the head by BRA and you're still trying to make sense of it all.

Me?  Liberal?  Hahahahahahahahahahaheeheeheehoooooo.... You're the classic example of the right-wing echo chamber; anything that contradicts the dogma is labeled "liberal" and dismissed (the real left-wingers do the same, and call me "reactionary" or the like).  Never do you so much as search for the facts to see if your echo chamber has them right (examples above).

There are more operating oil fields today than ever in our history.

Yes, but the old fields are operating with stripper wells at a few barrels per day each when they used to be hundreds or thousands.  The East Texas field is still "operating", but it is producing an oil-tinged flow of saltwater rather than the solid stream of crude which powered the USA war effort through 1945.  Look up "fractional flow" and expand your mind... if it hasn't irreversibly contracted around your dogma and cannot, like an old dog, learn any new tricks.

Rusty Mason:  Welcome to the Realist Club.  Have a seat and a beer.

* I do not consider conspiracy sites like prisonplanet to be legitimate sources.  They may link to valid sources, but only those sources should be cited and only when they support the claim being made.

Mr. Rational said...

I realized that I forgot to meet RobertB's point about oil seeps head on.

Yes, we find oil through oil seeps.  They are rare.  Satellite imagery of oil sheens on water are used to find them, because new deposits are scarce and even some of the discoveries are too small to be worth drilling.

If your "abiotic oil" scenario was remotely true, oil seeps would be everywhere and you wouldn't be able to dig without striking tar sands (which is what major oil seeps turn into when the light fractions evaporate and wind-blown matter absorbs and protects the bitumen from further degradation).  These things are found in few places, and they are not the thousands and tens of thousands of feet thick that they would have to be if oil was abiotic.

Supposedly, you have a brain.  Use it.  If you can sort out the implications of claims about racial equality and white privilege and show that the claims are false because the consequences of these things do not exist, you can do the same for claims about oil.  You have to stop being blind, man up and face truths that might require you to discard preconceptions and expectations.

Zenster said...

Thank you, Mr. Rational, for taking the time to address the issue of oil supply in a comprehensive manner. While I believe that "peak oil" is more of a technological issue than one of actual supply, at day's end petroleum is an unsustainable resource and must be regarded as such.

That said, solar energy, is the inevitable solution. Fusion is a good stopgap measure but harvesting some small part of the 970 TRILLION kWh that arrive every day is a more sensible strategy.

(The link is to one of the finest ads you'll ever see.)

Mr. Rational said...

Great ad, except for one little detail...

All those batteries littering the scene at the end would be able to supply power at night and on cloudy days.  The PV panels, not so much.  Even if the panels were free, storage would still be a problem.  That's why compact stockpiles of energy like coal, oil, natural gas and uranium are not about to be replaced by solar panels and wind farms.  We can turn those into electricity on our schedule, not when nature feels like it.

Getting back to the topic of this blog, that's why RE isn't going to be much help dealing with the Black Undertow.  You'd be better off putting solar collectors on your house to heat your water than trying to run your car on PV panels.  Come to think of it, if you super-insulated your house and used the natural gas you saved to drive a Honda Civic GX, it might just be better cost-wise than a lot of the other things out there.  If I wasn't busy with other things I might try to cost it out.