Wednesday, February 8, 2012

More Than a Feeling: Black on (Gay) Black Attack in Atlanta = Hate Crime; Black on White Attack in Philly = Nothing

God Bless WSHH... but why no "Hate Crime" in Black-on-white attack in Philly?
World Star Hip Hop (worldstarhiphop.com) is the most important Web site on the Internet, for it shows Black America in all its glory. Black people willingly upload videos of themselves engaging in behaviors that Disingenuous White Liberals (DWLs) dismiss as "stereotypical" and Organized Blackness claims are only isolated incidents of neglected youth lashing out against a society dominated by white privilege.

No. World Star Hip Hop (WSHH) is just Black people 'keepin it real'. It's undiluted, uncensored, uncouth, unapologetically untrammeled Black behavior. That's why the recent video upload of Black people in Atlanta assaulting a quote "faggot" (No Homo, right?) instantly became a WSHH sensation:
Members of an Atlanta street gang were filmed beating a man who was brutally assaulted because “faggots” were not allowed in their neighborhood, according to a videotape of the apparent hate crime.
The 30-second clip, posted today to the Worldstar Hip Hop web site, was shot outside a grocery store in Atlanta’s Pittsburgh neighborhood. The business, located at 1029 McDaniel Street SW, is a popular congregating spot for members of the Pittsburgh Jack City Gang (or “PBJC”). The group has also used the name “Jack City 1029.”
After being provided a link to the video, an Atlanta police spokesperson told TSG that the clip had been forwarded to the department’s gang division as well as the unit that investigates bias crimes against the LGBT community. Officer Kim Jones added that she was researching whether a police report was generated at the time of the attack (which investigators believe took place over the weekend).
As seen above, the video opens with an unseen cameraman and a second man outside the grocery store. The second man announces, “Round one. Jack City. No faggots.” Then, after a diminutive man exits the grocery, an assailant approaches him from behind and delivers a brutal punch to the side of the victim’s head. The man’s cell phone flies from his hand and he crumples to the ground.

Black people have gleefully uploaded their crimes for the world to see on WSHH (nor bragging about them on Facebook), but this time, the usage of the word "faggot" has stripped the usual Black-on-Black crime we have come to expect to dominate the news in a big-city like Atlanta, to a level of naked bigotry that can not be tolerated:
Federal authorities joined Atlanta police Monday in investigating video footage posted online of an apparent gang-related beating in southwest Atlanta.

The video, posted on YouTube and the website for WorldHipHop.com and reported by online news site The Smoking Gun, shows three men attacking a man they claim to be gay coming from a grocery store on McDaniel Street.
One of the alleged assailants shouts a derogatory term for gays as he attacks the victim.
In a prepared statement emailed to the media Monday night, U.S. Attorney Sally Quillian Yates said, "Along with the Atlanta Police Department, we are working to determine if the actions portrayed in the video violate federal law, including the hate crime statute.
"The actions depicted in the video are appalling and unacceptable in our community, and we encourage anyone with information about this video to contact the FBI or Atlanta Police," Yates said.
YouTube removed the video on Monday, citing it violates the website's policy against violence.
In the video, the victim appears to be talking on his cell phone as he emerges from the store, and rounds a corner into an apparent ambush.
Three assailants  swarm the man, punching and kicking him repeatedly. When the man falls to the ground, someone grabs a car tire and strikes him with it.
Atlanta police say they were made aware of the video by the media, but weren't able to determine Monday when the footage was shot and whether anyone had filed a report.
"We encourage the victim to come forward to discuss the incident with investigators," police spokesman Carlos Campos said in a statement. "The Atlanta Police Department is working to determine more about the attack depicted on this video, including attempting to identify the victim and the perpetrators."
 Just like the predominately white student body of Georgia Tech (located in downtown Atlanta) - targeted on a daily basis for robbery, random assaults, rape, and murder by Black people - it now seems gay bashing is a enjoyable game in the Black community of Atlanta. Considering that the gay community is the last chance for ensuring that property values remaining high in Fulton County (via the first wave of gentrification), this incident might spook one or two members of that community from settling down in The City too Busy to Hate.

But this incident, when compared to a recent ruling in Philadelphia shows us one simple fact: white people have no real legal protections anymore when they are assaulted by Black people, especially when said Black people are using racial epithets during the barrage. Remember the Urban Terrorists who targeted whitey in Philadelphia recently? As they beat two white guys, they yelled racially charged slurs and pejoratives toward them. Federal authorities aren't launching an investigation however:

THREE JUVENILES accused of assaulting a cabdriver and his passenger in Center City Saturday night while shouting racial slurs will not be charged with a hate crime, the District Attorney's Office said yesterday.
The teens, who are black, were not charged with hate crimes because there was no evidence that the assault had been motivated by the race of the victims, who are white, said Tasha Jamerson, D.A. spokeswoman. Just shouting racial epithets during the commission of a crime doesn't rise to the level of ethnic intimidation, she said.
"They just didn't have that in this case," she said. "If they had somebody who, two blocks before, heard them say, 'We're going to beat somebody up because they're white, brown or purple,' it might be different."
Such is life in Black-Run America (BRA), where Obama's War on white America gets more obvious on a daily basis. Lawrence Auster at VFR recently opined on the meaning of "hate crimes" and it's vital for you to read what he stated:

The creation of the legal category of “hate-crime” illustrates how liberalism is the dominant force of our society, progressively taking over and displacing normal and traditional concepts. Traditionally, a crime consists of two elements: the intention to commit the criminal act, and the criminal act. Those are the two things that must be found in order for a jury to find a person guilty of a crime. The only required psychological component is that the defendant had mens rea—the guilty thought, the guilty intent to commit the crime. The precise nature and quality of this intention does not matter, insofar as the establishment of his guilt is concerned, only that he had the intention to commit the crime.


The establishment of “hate-crime” as a category in criminal law adds on to the normal idea of criminal intent the idea of “hate.” If you “hate” the ethnic, religious, or sexual group to which your victim belongs, and if such hate was part of your motivation, your crime is much worse, and is punished more severely, and society condemns you more harshly. Determining whether such “hate” obtained in a given crime involves looking into the thoughts of the defendant in a manner that does not happen in normal criminal law. It defines as criminal certain kinds of thoughts, which has never been the case in the Anglo-American legal tradition. It makes certain kinds of intentions more criminal, and more punishable, than other kinds of intentions. So, even as society keeps letting off with light punishments people who have committed terrible murders, it makes a huge deal of, and punishes more severely, people who have committed crimes who also had “hate” in their mind when they committed them. In 1989 an acquaintance said that racism is now worse than murder. With the establishment of the category of hate-crimes, that statement has become literally true. 

As I’ve always said, the ruling principle of modern liberal society is non-discrimination. Therefore under liberalism discrimination is the worst thing there is, the thing that must be rooted out and eliminated, as liberals are always saying it must be. The introduction of hate-crimes statutes shows how this liberal ideology has taken over our society. It shows how, to a very significant degree, America is no longer a free country, but an ideological state, ruling society according the ideology of non-discrimination. But of course this ideology is not imposed equally on everyone, but principally on white Christian heterosexual men, who according to the liberal ideology are the main or only source of hate and discrimination in our society. Thus when, as in Philadelphia this week, blacks commit what appears from the news reports to be a grossly obvious hate-crime against whites, physically assaulting a white cab driver and the white cabbie while yelling racial epithets, the hate-crime charge was instantly dismissed by Philadelphia’s district attorney.
The economy of Philadelphia will continue to falter with white flight from a city under-siege by Black people engaging in Flash Mobs Mahogany Mob attacks on white people and then uploading their buffoonery for all to observe on WSHH.  Atlanta's property values will continue to plummet, and commercial real estate prices will bottom out (as companies seek to open headquarters in the lily-white suburbs up 400 north in Alpharetta) because Black crime makes living in the city an intolerable act of cruelty; commuting two hours every day to work in the city and live away from that same Black crime is an even greater act of cruelty (and one of the sparsely researched areas of why marriages are failing: having to spend so much time commuting to and from your Whitopia in a bid to escape Black Undertow cities).


None of this warrants national discussion; none of this warrants national dialogue. We would rather see every major city in America turned into another version of Detroit, then confront the reality of race.

One day, to even acknowledge that Black people commit a disproportionate amount of crime in America will automatically be deemed a "hate crime" in BRA. To even point out twisted application of the law (when comparing the attacks in Atlanta and Philly) is probably grounds for some sort of punishment in our brave new world.

SBPDL has more than a feeling that a few people around the nation saw these two stories and made the same connection we did. In the end, the Black attack in Atlanta (is there any other kind?) only brought more attention to WSHH, that wonderful Web site that confirms every anecdote you've ever heard or read about Black people.

And that's a good thing.

The bad thing? The quick decision to go after Hate Crime charges in the Atlanta story, but to deny that there was a Hate Crime in the Philadelphia situation (when racial slurs against whites were used by Blacks in the latter) shows that the legal war against white people continues unabated.

More than a feeling that a lot of people wish someone would confront that "bad thing" - they'd have a huge portion of the nation behind them. 





167 comments:

Anonymous said...

Let's face it, the only white people protected by hate crimes are gay, transgender (or whatever they call themselves, like in the McDonald's incident)) or Jewish. Everyone else is on their own.

Stuff Black People Don't Like said...

Nothing objectionable with that comment.

Sailer - read this post after I posted this entry - says basically the same thing.

http://isteve.blogspot.com/2012/02/gays-over-blacks-part-xiv.html

Anonymous said...

“hate-crime” legislation = Protected Classes.
So much for the libs riff about[SIGH,GASP, FOLD HANDS IN PRAYER] EQUALITY.

Anonymous said...

Like that film with Adam Sandler and the faux gay firemen.

Hey it is a strategy to lock up a nog fir an extra year or two isn't it?

AmericanGoy said...

"after a diminutive man exits the grocery, an assailant approaches him from behind and delivers a brutal punch to the side of the victim’s head."

Went to a predominantly black high school.

This is how black guys fight.

When a gang member picked on me, he brought two full car loads of people to "show" me.

About 10 peeps surrounded me, making a circle, with the "hero" slapping my face.

Showed tat white boie, yea?

I survived because I wasn't fighting back (after I told him it's hard to fight 15 to 1) and one dude from the circle told him I wasn't fighting back, lets just go...

I sincerely wish such a learning experience (I've had others) on any DWL.

MuayTyson said...

I'm sorry but this article is just beating a dead horse. I would say that most of White America agrees with this. White are only the perpetrators of Hate Crimes never the victim.

We all know it is rotten we all know it is wrong now what will be done? When will we have an advocacy group for Whites with lawyers that will fight this at the Supreme Court level. All the evidence is in every lie that was told about the adoption of Hate Crimes have come to pass. All of White America knew it was just another punishment added to the crime of being White.

Now what the hell are we gonna do about it?

Ben N Indiana said...

How depressing.

I read in the news today that German scientists have mapped the entire genome of an archaic human known as a Denisovan. source

I also read that the Russians concluded 20 years of drilling in Antarctica, tapping into a lake that has been trapped in darkness for 20 million years. source

Another discovery this week revealed that a mild, painless electrical shock to the brain enhances learning. source

Astronomers discovered a 'super earth' in a life friendly zone in deep space. source

And just since the beginning of 2012 scientists in Scottland discovered a vaccine for ovarian cancer. Another headline read, "DNA sequences from tumor cells can be used to direct the immune system to attack cancer."

Such is a typical week in the global Whitopia.

Another news story today revealed, "he has combined a glass slide, plastic sheets and double-sided tape into a "diffusion-based gradient generator" -- a tool to rapidly assess how changing concentrations of specific chemicals affect living cells."

I don't even know what that means.

What I do know is . . .

• We are witnesses the apex of Western culture; civilization in its highest form

• We are destroying this culture through multicultural social engineering.

While White people busy themselves unraveling the mysteries of genetics and unwrapping nature's treasures from 20 million years ago, black are occupied with busting the cranium of a gay guy in Atlanta.

Eventually the multicultural experiment will be complete. All that has been accomplished by Western culture will be destroyed and forgotten. And it's happening in our lifetime.

Anonymous said...

In interesting twist on this.

I am a white gay in San Francisco. I can tell you that this does not apply to white gays. I was mugged by a group of blacks one night, all yelling faggot. The cops response: 'what did you do to provoke them? and did you say anything racist while being attacked?'

Black tolerance of other minorities, is widely known by gays.

Jay Santos said...

MuayTyson said...

Now what the hell are we gonna do about it?


Yea, what exactly are we gonna do about it? Maybe elect Romney, Santorum, Gingrich or Paul?

Yea, that will do it.

Anonymous said...

Do you think that there will be a tipping point in which white people refuse to accept this kind of treatment anymore?

Will there be a point where the majority stands up to the power structures that have determed who gets protection and who will be left defenseless?

Or, is this the swan song of those who work and produce, learn and teach, discover and invent?

Anonymous said...

Trial junkie here. Jane Velez Mitchell (who is gay) has had the Atlanta beating on her HLN show the last two nights. JVM hasn't mentioned the series of Philadelphia beatings and murders.

JVM has had a few black on white crimes on her show, not many though. Nancy Grace never does.

Anonymous said...

WSHH and the willingness of blacks to post their crimes for all to see has been fantastic.

Just another nail in the coffin for uncensored interet, as TPTB can't allow this truth to be disseminated.

Yes, of course gays > blacks in protected class hierarchy, so they were indicted.

Like that old joke, liberals are just one mugging away from being conservatives, everybody should get enriched by going to school with blacks. Getting robbed or beaten by them at a young age leaves an impression that will stick with them for life.

The british elites send their kids to prep school to get a similarly beaten.

To the SF gay guy-sorry to hear about that. was the cop white? I love that he was fishing for a reason to put you in the wrong.

I've found cops to go after the lowest hanging fruit. hence gun confiscation from whites during Katrina, for example.

We live in Zimbabwe or south Africa.

The law exists to tax, disarm, and convict whites that defend themselves from black attackers.

Blacks know damn well they won't be punished for black on white crime.

Winston Smith said...

Best comment on the Blaze-

I wonder if theyll call it black spring, black summer, or black fall?

Whiskey said...

The situation is tolerated because only the untouchable get beat down -- the Beta White guy. When White WOMEN get a regular beat down, and harassed, and robbed, in daily life, things will be different. It has to happen suddenly, to most White Professional women, and be clearly something that cannot be avoided.

Many (not most) White professional women of my acquaintance knew the score in the South. However Black guys fascinated them, and while they studiously avoided them there was little solidarity with White guys who ran afoul of Black gangs. There was also a class division that cut across gender lines, the "wrong sort" of White people deserving punishment.

This explains a lot, all over the US, Europe (where Black guys can with impunity talk about exterminating Whites in French subway cars), and so on. Whites are deeply divided: across gender AND class lines. White guys tend to suppress their natural tendency to be A-holes to get things done in a mixed gender workplace and that does not help, lowering the sexiness. Sexy men generally equals a hell hole. Since you get nothing but the above.

Want to change things? Make most White women perceive the current situation is a direct threat to their well-being, and can be solved without a Selma type bloodbath.

Anonymous said...

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/atlanta-video-beating-765912

I showed this video to a typical under thirty white male. He immediately attacked me for not knowing there are nasty white people. Finding a young white male who has not bought into the entire anit-white pro diversity line is almost impossible.
Most white are too stupid to save.
Robert in Arabia

Anonymous said...

But surely you can see that the "victim" was a former slave owner and that the "gang" was only seeking reparations?

Has black History month taught you nothing?

Anonymous said...

They didn't beat him and call him 'faggot' because he f*cked other dudes; LOTS of black bucks do that.

They attacked him because he didn't keep it on the "down low".

Anonymous said...

Baldowl: I would put Negroes in front of Hispanics. Other than that, your list is probably accurate.

White men will never be on "the list" since we are the enemy. Interestingly, in spite of some Oriental Asians trying to get on the list by their own efforts (claiming racial solidarity and discrimination), they have generally not been successful at it, mainly because they are so successful in just about every objective social criteria (education, income, rule following, etc).

Ironically, becoming a "discriminated against" class is the one status Orientals have not been very able to attain. Much of it is because with the exception of a few among them, they are as a group too embarrassed to play the race card openly, since it would mean admitting that they are somehow "second rate," and that would be a loss of "face."

At least that is the case in the older generation. The kids have probably bought into the liberal anti-white paradigm to a degree.

italian guy said...

You americans should come here in Europe for a while, just wait a couple of years here and then go back home, minorities would die of starvation and you will have your country for your own again.

Anonymous said...

as a liberal, white gay guy, i can honestly say that blacks are the biggest homophobes (and racists) you will ever come across.

here in nyc, there was a recent case of two hispanic brothers walking home on a freezing winter night -- two black men in a passing car mistook them for gays, and attacked them.

one man was killed -- simply because an ignorant black mistook him for gay.

here in nyc, there is a black lurking in just about every gay bar, stealing cellphones and anything else left on the bar.

my exboyfriend was robbed and almost killed by a black.

at age 14, i was attacked by a pack of blacks on the subway home from school -- around 12 of them, ranging in age from 13- to 18-year-old.

i chalked it up to ignorance, or the after-effects of racism on black youth.

two weeks later, i was attacked by blacks on the subway again.

they came marauding thru the subway car, attacked another white boy who was sleeping -- he woke up being kicked in the face, and they put lit firecrackers in his hair.

then they came for me. they knocked out my teeth. i had to go to the hospital.

i now hate blacks.

and when i am accused of being a racist, i usually go around the room and confront everyone, demanding to know if they have ever been the victim of a violent crime, and if the perpetrators were black.

most people have to admit that they were robbed, assaulted, threatened, etc by a black.

in my own quiet way, i hope i am helping a lot of gay guys out there understand that there is a difference between racism and realism.

and we can be gay and liberal in every way, except we don't have to accept the lies about racial equality.

it helps my case, when blacks are spreading AIDS in unbelievable numbers (where do they find the time to infect so many partners?).

it helps my case when WSHH showcases videos that blacks themselves upload, showing them attacking gays.

it helps my case that blacks came out in record numbers to vote for obama, but while they were in the voting booths, they also took a moment to vote against marriage equality.

it helps my case that packs of gay black teens roam the west village beating up older white gay guys.

thank you.

DW said...

There was also a class division that cut across gender lines, the "wrong sort" of White people deserving punishment.

Memories from my college days . . .

Campus NOW started a Rape Prevention council.

Their solution to prevent rape: put up more lights and emergency call boxes around the university campus.

I pointed out to them that the university was one of the safest places around. The majority of rapes (and violent crime in general) happened in the poor neighborhoods in town (there was a poor white neighborhood that sort of blended into a black neighborhood--just like my hometown). NOW didn't give a damn. They had zero interest in protecting poor people from crime. It was all about protecting pampered middle and upper class White women.

My suggestion that encouraging students to learn how to use handguns would be cheaper and more effective than putting up more lights got me branded as a Redneck, and from that point on I was invisible.

It made me puke up most of the feminist Kool-Aid I'd swallowed.

Anyway, this is SBPDL not SFDL, so I'll try to get this back on topic . . .

You're right. White women have been taught that we should have solidarity with Blacks because we were both oppressed by those Evil White Males.

White women need to wake up and see the real threat isn't from White men.

Charles Martel said...

@ MuayTyson said...
"Now what the hell are we gonna do about it?"

The end of this nigmare oops I meant nightmare is on the horizon.

The only silver lining on this dark storm cloud is that activities of this black protected class have allowed all their enemies to start aligning against a common threat.

The fuse has been lit and the aftermath will be a welcome period of world unity and temporary peace.

The solution is simple but requires discipline: No Retreat, No Surrender, No Empathy, No Sympathy, No Moving Away to another "whitopia". It is far, far better state of affairs to be hated and feared by ones' enemies than to be mocked and attacked as cowards.

Embrace the hate. Fight back even if it means your demise, fight back. The struggle we are embroiled in is not our struggle, it is a struggle for the future of the world.

How long will you other men stand by and watch as helpless women and children are attacked, raped, robbed, stalked, burnt, macheted or arrested for speaking the truth ( Emma West). We have all the time in the world to deal with other turmoils that we will face as a fractious world, but we must fight to secure that time.

Even if the odds are 15-1, fight back.

"They are in front of us, behind us, and we are flanked on both sides by an
enemy that outnumbers us 29:1. They can't get away from us now!"
- Lewis B. "Chesty" Puller, USMC

Anonymous said...

amen to my gay brethren above, from your heterosexual (& nonreligious) brother. good posts!
tangentially, the onion has an article today that actually pokes fun at the lack of racism - bet they'll catch some flack from it
http://www.theonion.com/articles/alarming-study-finds-more-than-12-instances-of-rac,27310/

Paleface 6 said...

This isn't really related to the story, but I post it here to illustrate the point that the sort of things written about here are not recent developments:

I just finished reading a book, first published in 1966, that outlines and predicts everything we are currently living through. In the first few pages, I found this:

"All over the country, although it is not being reported except in isolated incidents, Negroes are using a new robbery technique. 15 or 20 tough Negro males walk into a small store, and, at a given signal, run out with armfuls of goods. Nothing much can be done about it, since they are BLACK."

This paragraph was published in 1966. Over 25 years ago. Apparently, such things are governed by Circadian rhythm. Only this time around, it appears as though we've either run out of pesticide, or forgotten where we've stored it.

B. Herder said...

"One day, to even acknowledge that Black people commit a disproportionate amount of crime in America will automatically be deemed a "hate crime" in BRA. To even point out strange application of the law (when comparing the attacks in Atlanta and Philly) is probably grounds for some sort of punishment in our brave new world"

It's already here of sorts..
In many European countries (I AM NOT defending Nazis in any way, shape, or form) if you even publicly question any of the 'established' facts ... War crimes, slaughter of Jews and others etc. .... To even go on record saying something like 'Wait a minute ... These numbers don't add up' or something similar, is a crime and can get you thrown in prison.
I could easily see that kind of scenario happening here with regards to 'minorities' on this side of the Atlantic.

Anonymous said...

"I recently saw a hate crime hierarchy, in order of most protected. I think it goes:

"Jews

That's funny. Jews are THE reason Gun Control is continuously being passed in urban areas and THE reason the US Judiciary is quite stalwart in upholding any and all GC laws in Amerika. (Just look at all the GC laws that have been upheld including handgun bans, assault rifle bans, magazine bans, etc.) Look at the virtual lockstep Jews and the African-American "leadership" are in the promotion and passage of GC laws in urban areas like Chicago. Rev. Jesse Jackson uses this as his standard dog-and pony show in order to draw in the cameras of the MSM.

I have to say it was delicious irony when several years ago JJ decided to hold an anti-gun rally in front of DSA Arms (manufacturers of American FAL rifles) in Barrington, Illinois and DSA placed large posters of the anti-JJ book "Shakedown" on their outside walls. Guessed that showed JJ and his Black minions that TWO can play the PR game with the MSM!

Winston Smith said...

To the anonymous poster about the under 30 mighty whitey male calling you racisss, Id like to mention I would have done the same thing.

at age 35 I'd have agreed with you.

at age 40 i'd have said we need to legally arm ourselves for protection

at age 40+ I think the only solution is separation and what took me so long to figure it out?!?

Its too bad we couldn't get a dozen or so white families to colonize a Detroit neighborhood. Houses are cheap and we could organize patrols. Maybe build gardens on abandoned lots.

I wonder if MI allows open carry of rifles or pistols? People in Israel do it every day, theyre allowed sub machine guns if they want, and they do. look at Iraqis or Afghans. It can be done routinely and safely.

I can't see it happening, but its fun to think about.

Anonymous said...

LMFAO! I love that ONION article..............the picture speaks a thousand words...that is the funniest pic I have ever seen LMFAO!

Winston Smith said...

Excellent point about 'hate' speech! To paraphrase Gore Vidal ...hate speech 'is another term for the unspeakable truth '

Yes, routinely anti hate legislation gets shoehorned into defense appropriation bills and the like. Somehow its never been passed. Yet.

You can get 7 years for hate speech in Europe.

It'll come here, and be worked so that website operators will be arrested if any 'hate' comments show up.

That ought to stifle free speech if they can't do it under the guise of 'online piracy'

Anonymous said...

"Now what the hell are we gonna do about it?

Well now, what are you afraid of when speaking out? As I once said on American Renaissance:

Social Ostracism is the most nefarious form of censorship.

Yes, the feedback loop is a NEGATIVE one when it comes to racial realism. In other words, the MSM acts as the feedback element to your fellow thinkers.

Basically, you got to get people to either IGNORE the MSM or to get them exposed to and interested SBPDL because it affects them both in the pocketbook and in their day-to-day living vis-a-vis Blacks.

Get them used to the idea that Human Bio-Diversity is REAL and totally reflected in the Bell Curve. The intelligence differences between different dog breeds might be a good thin edge of the wedge to start cleaving away their MSM cultural brainwashing.

Anonymous said...

""All over the country, although it is not being reported except in isolated incidents, Negroes are using a new robbery technique. 15 or 20 tough Negro males walk into a small store, and, at a given signal, run out with armfuls of goods. Nothing much can be done about it, since they are BLACK."

AKA as the military technique of SWARMING.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swarming_%28military%29

"Military swarming is a behavior where autonomous, or semi-autonomous, units of action attack an enemy from several different directions and then regroup

Hate Crimes Be Racist said...

I am a gay man and an unapologetic race realist who was shaken out of my leftist indoctrination after being the victim of black homophobia. Three times I have had my safety threatened by groups of young black men, once here in Durham, NC and twice in Baltimore while visiting my family, and now I openly avoid blacks. Thankfully I am a 6'1" and 260lb viking type who looks threatening enough that most people dont mess with me although I really dont know how to fight and its probably just my appearance which saved me from being attacked on these three occasions. Sadly, you will never meet a group who hates gays more than blacks do (except maybe Muslims).

Hate Crimes Be Racist said...

I am a gay man and an unapologetic race realist who was shaken out of my leftist indoctrination after being the victim of black homophobia. Three times I have had my safety threatened by groups of young black men, once here in Durham, NC and twice in Baltimore while visiting my family, and now I openly avoid blacks. Thankfully I am a 6'1" and 260lb viking type who looks threatening enough that most people dont mess with me although I really dont know how to fight and its probably just my appearance which saved me from being attacked on these three occasions. Sadly, you will never meet a group who hates gays more than blacks do (except maybe Muslims).

Anonymous said...

Trial junkie here.

Whiskey,

White women are ALREADY being attacked, raped, and murdered by blacks and this has happened forever. Have you heard of TV personality Ann Pressly being murdered in her bed in a "safe" neighborhood? Our so-called culture pretends it doesn't happen.

By the way, white professional women of my acquaintance (I'm in TN) do know the score.

Anonymous said...

When is smeone gonna crash wolstarhiphop? It only encourages these chimps to act out.

Anonymous said...

I am sure this is an unintended consequence by the United States’ social engineers the Israelis. An elaborate system funded by taxpayer money to breed these subhuman African Americans is alive and thriving. High-rise incubators churn out a tsunami of gangbanging, murdering black cancer each year. By design, brutal ruthless Black on White crime takes place everyday with no hate charges associated. In my lifetime; I have seen atrocities against European people that far surpass any wrongs done to African Americans.

Anonymous said...

We whites could care less about People of Color and it's not even done maliciously in most cases.  We are so used to everything catering to our that standards it doesn't even dawn on us that there are other cultures who do things differently.

We get everything we deserve.

Anonymous said...

IN RESPONSE TO 2 COMMENTERS HERE

'Black tolerance of other minorities, is widely known by gays.

YOU MEAN INTOLERANCE

And the White Lib who hates blacks...you are no longer liberal, welcome to the club [ex liberals].

Anonymous said...

The top article on the Philly.com homepage today: "Why such youth violence on Philly streets?"
(http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20120209_The_young_and_the_reckless_are_wreaking_havoc_on_Philly_s_streets.html?viewAll=y&c=y).
Every time a citizen of Philadelphia is stomped into the concrete by a mob of black savages (ie, 'reckless teens') for the crime of 'walking while white', the Phila Inq feels morally obligated to ask this idiotic question. They've been asking it a lot lately, but the only place you will see an honest answer is in the comments for these articles, and on SPBDL: white people have become totally acceptable targets as sacrificial offerings.
The victims of these horrific crimes can plead their case for 'hate crime' prosecutions until their accts run dry: the criminals know that the odds are in their favor that they will likely walk, especially if they are a 'juvenile', whatever that means today. Besides, a stint in jail is a right of passage for 85% of this population, it's become a badge of honor.
I was raised in a major NE city, and there was once a time when I believed the liberal line of bullshit, one that has not changed an iota since then.
It comes down to a really simply matter: do you have the right to secure and protect yourself, your family, from the violence that is as second-nature to these people as breathing?
Only an idiot would expect any equal protection under the law today, from their government, their DA, their police force.
There is one black person who summarizes what is necessary here better than anyone:
'Be nonviolent with those that are nonviolent with you, but if someone lays a hand on you, send him to the cemetery'. Malcolm X.

Paleface 6 said...

Anonymous said...

" 'All over the country, although it is not being reported except in isolated incidents, Negroes are using a new robbery technique. 15 or 20 tough Negro males walk into a small store, and, at a given signal, run out with armfuls of goods. Nothing much can be done about it, since they are BLACK.'

'AKA as the military technique of SWARMING.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swarming(military)

'Military swarming is a behavior where autonomous, or semi-autonomous, units of action attack an enemy from several different directions and then regroup.' "

I found this quote particularly interesting:

"Swarming is a logical extension of network-centric warfare, but the networks needed to make swarming routine will be available around 2010-2011. (Emphasis added.) At present, the networking for swarming is only available in specific contexts."

Gee, does that mean enough free cell phones have been handed out to hood rats?

Thanks for the link; very informative.

Anonymous said...

italian guy said...

You americans should come here in Europe for a while, just wait a couple of years here and then go back home, minorities would die of starvation and you will have your country for your own again.


Thanks for the invite.

We're working up transportation now. We made a slight change in plans, however. Instead of White folks coming to Europe, we sending non-Whites.

No cost to you + free shipping.

Ben N Indiana said...

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh, hold your pants on Petunia!

There's a silly notion that liberals are not racists.

Nonsense.

Liberals deprive blacks of dignity by removing them from Afro-centric gov't schools via integration. Liberals could care less about black education.

Liberals make blacks gov't dependent. It assures that blacks will vote Democratic.

By destroying the world's White infrastructure, they are taking away the future funding of Africa, Detroit and every other bastion of blacks.

Ben N Indiana said...

Seen this?

£200 million goes to Africa for starving Africans.

5 months later ...

£2.75 million reaches starving Africans.

LINK

Winston Smith said...

Ironically for a bunch of white supremist ray-ciss crackers, I don't hear anybody saying 'who cares what happened' to the guy in the video.

Nobody deserves to get beaten down like that. It makes me sick.

I care for them as people. I don't want to be their slaves or be victim. I'll give charity. When BRA holds a gun to my head demanding money for some 'past wrongs', it doesn't make me a racist not to like it.

Hunter Morrow said...

Gay is a more protected "class" than black now.

After 50, 60 years or so the liberal assholes who honestly believed that some multi-trillion dollar uplift strategy could work are completely pissed off at the blacks. Not only are the blacks more pathological than ever the blacks have the gall to not give a fuck about anything in the liberal platform. How many pro-abortion, GLBT loving, save-the-whales and ban-the-nukes blacks do you know of?

Liberals treat blacks with a potent mix of pity, disgust, disdain and disappointment. They feel like a really wronged Mommy. Mommy helped her kid study all week for the math test and he would up getting an F on the test and rape-murdering the teacher.

Anonymous said...

In response to anon 10:17, let’s assume you’re not a troll, and let’s break down your post and I’ll give a few of my responses and ask you a question or two;

‘We whites could care less about People of Color and it's not even done maliciously in most cases.’

I think you mean we could not care less, but either way is true, and my response is, why should we? I don’t mean in a way that makes it ok to harm or cheat them, but why should we care any more or less about anyone based on their minority status?

As far as ‘we’ not caring, I’ve spent my entire adult life post-civil rights and with it everything involved, from AA (for blacks) and minority (black) set asides, forced integration (of blacks), section 8, you name it, set up to ‘level the playing field (for blacks)’.

We’re now in the third generation of these ‘caring’ programs for minorities (blacks) and what do we have? (black) Illegitimacy is higher than ever,(black) criminality is as bad or worse than ever,(black) poverty levels unchanged or higher, (black) illiteracy unchanged and in some areas increasing and interracial crime (black on white) is through the roof.

“We are so used to everything catering to our that standards it doesn't even dawn on us that there are other cultures who do things differently.”

Exactly what ‘standards’ are you referring to with this statement? Expectations that you or your family members can go about life with a degree of safety? That you can leave your home for a few hours and not lock it down with deadbolts, alarm systems and motion detectors and closed circuit TV monitors that banks didn’t even need a few decades ago?

Now before you come back with the tired response ‘white people commit crimes too’, keep in mind that black males between 12 and 50 (less that 3% of the population btw) commit over half of all murders, half of all armed robberies, nearly half of all residential burglaries, over half of violent crimes (assault, rape, strong arm robberies) fbi.gov/about-us/­cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010­/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables­/table-43

If this is the type of ‘culture’ that you feel you need to be fulfilled, be my guest. I’ll sit this one out, thank you.

‘We get everything we deserve.’

Speak for yourself, thanks. But by all means, if and when you or someone close to you is being robbed, raped or murdered by one of these ‘minorities’ (blacks), just keep repeating this statement and I’m sure you’ll feel much better.

NorCal

So CAL Snowman said...

The comments from the gay community are very interesting and I appreciate your courage in speaking out and sharing your experiences. I've noticed that many of these comments express the sentiment that blacks are the MOST homophobic of all races. I think they are right. Check out this piece from AON (Africa Online News):
Legal Status of Homosexuality in Africa

Apparently homosexuality is ILLEGAL for gay men in 29 African countries and ILLEGAL for women in 20 countries. Uganda and Zimbabwe in particular are known for their ruthless treatment of gays. NOT surprisingly South Africa stands apart from the rest of Africa when it comes to the legal status of gays, mirroring Western European countries.

Anonymous said...

A black coworker once commented to me about the number of black males who engaged in male on male sex. I said "isn't that homosexual sex?" and his response was "well it isn't as long as the black male is doing the penetration or being the recipient of oral sex." Told him that I thought that was splitting hairs. He agreed. Might be a thing of self hatred being reminded of what they (black males) really are.

Anonymous said...

black people have many interesting eccentricities, which include disliking a litany of every gay event, gay places, homosexual objects and other aspects of every gay life.

Anonymous said...

The guy who runs this site must be a faggot you only print things that you want.Print every thing someone says dont block them coward.

Paleface 6 said...

Hunter Morrow said...

"...Liberals treat blacks with a potent mix of pity, disgust, disdain and disappointment. They feel like a really wronged Mommy. (Emphasis added.) Mommy helped her kid study all week for the math test and he would up getting an F on the test and rape-murdering the teacher."

"DaShaunte, you just wait until your father gets home!"

Oh, wait...

Cap'n Crunch said...

"But of course this ideology is not imposed equally on everyone, but principally on white Christian heterosexual men, who according to the liberal ideology are the main or only source of hate and discrimination in our society."

DOUBLE-STANDARD. any fool can see whats going on here is reverse discrimination. If they had film of whites giving blacks a beat-down; and shouting the "N" word...it would be on CNN, FOX, MSNBC and transmitted worldwide.

earl said...

The black "faggot" has a 50/50 chance of having at least one std, as well as numerous felony arrests.

Ms. Evergreen said...

I don't see how its good for black people if hate crime laws protect whites. That's all me and lil' Evergreen care about - what's good for black people?

Of course, if he was there in Phillie, lil' Evergreen would have tried to stop those youths from hurting that guy. He don't approve of that sort of thing. Then he would've lectured the white guys about racism.

I haven't commented in a while. but I'm bored today. Mr. Evergreen is busy harassing white women at some restaurant association and lying about his business success.

MuayTyson said...

Cap'n Crunch said...

"But of course this ideology is not imposed equally on everyone, but principally on white Christian heterosexual men, who according to the liberal ideology are the main or only source of hate and discrimination in our society."

DOUBLE-STANDARD. any fool can see whats going on here is reverse discrimination. If they had film of whites giving blacks a beat-down; and shouting the "N" word...it would be on CNN, FOX, MSNBC and transmitted worldwide.


Perfect let's make one. Have some White guy dress like Robert Downey Jr. from Tropic Thunder stage a beat down use all the little things liberals like you know; Red necks, the N word, Pick-up trucks and post it to WSHH.

When the media picks it up and you know they will BLAMMO! they will lose what little respectability that they have. All you have to do is let the ruminate on the video for a week then come out as performance artists and say you wanted to see what would happen.

Anonymous said...

Political correctness that legitimizes and encourages brutal assaults by "victim" groups is a fatal disease of the Western world.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2097330/Daniel-Stringer-speaks-hate-crime-attack-Asian-gang-left-fighting-sight.html

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/why-did-evil-thugs-stamp-on-me-gang-677138

Check out rampant rapes by Muslim subhumans in Scandinavia as well. Sweden is the Muslim rape playland of Europe and the Swedish idiots just take it.

Anonymous said...

To Anon at 6:17 AM (liberal gay white guy)...you're not that liberal anymore, good for you. But, in the past were you as concerned about straight whites being assaulted, etc. by blacks? Off topic, but Roland Martin has been suspended by CNN for making anti-gay remarks on Twitter. I despise Martin, I consider him to be anti-white. Anti-white comments are constantly made on the MSM and I've yet to see someone suspended. Also, I don't think that being against gay marriage is discriminatory or hateful.

Anonymous said...

"After 50, 60 years or so the liberal assholes who honestly believed that some multi-trillion dollar uplift strategy could work are completely pissed off at the blacks.

Oh, I doubt that very much. The "liberal assholes" have discovered that Blacks are an endless blackhole of which to expend government money, which, of course, the White leftists with their useless sociology, management, government, psych and other "caring" degrees will administer with huge government salaries. That's why white liberals ALWAYS live away from Blacks while advocating "integration."

Zenster said...

Anonymous (February 8, 2012 9:25 PM): Will there be a point where the majority stands up to the power structures that have determined who gets protection and who will be left defenseless?

Quite definitely. The tipping point for Blacks is exactly the same as it is for Muslims. Namely,

WHEN LIVING WITH BLACKS BECOMES MORE TROUBLE THAN LIVING WITHOUT THEM

Only then will the majority finally do something. Before that time, all sorts of low intensity atrocities (i.e., Knoxville), will persist. Eventually, as so many others here predict, someone with a CCW will blow away a baker's dozen of Mahogany Mobbers and the festivities will begin in earnest.

Or, is this the swan song of those who work and produce, learn and teach, discover and invent?

Not by a long shot. Again, as with Islam, it will just take a few wake up calls. I had thought that the 9-11 atrocity was sufficient with regard to Muslims; quite clearly, it was not.

One thing is assured ― yet again, just like Muslims ― Blacks will rise to the challenge and eventually commit some heinous crime of such staggering dimensions that there will be no turning back. It is only a matter of time and resources.

peterike said...

You ever notice that when you hear a gay black man speak, they pretty much always speak standard English perfectly well, and have little or no trace of Ebonic ghetto patois?

No wonder the other blacks hate them. In addition to being gay, gay black men invariably "act white."

Hereward said...

You ever notice that when you hear a gay black man speak, they pretty much always speak standard English perfectly well, and have little or no trace of Ebonic ghetto patois?

No wonder the other blacks hate them. In addition to being gay, gay black men invariably "act white."


Bingo. One of my former co-workers was black (albeit rather light-skinned), well-spoken, and liked classic cinema and reading novels. He was also a rather effeminate homosexual.

Zenster said...

Anonymous (February 8, 2012 10:26 PM): WSHH and the willingness of blacks to post their crimes for all to see has been fantastic.

Yes it is. This is the genuine "Reality TV".

Just another nail in the coffin for uncensored interet, as TPTB can't allow this truth to be disseminated.

But … but … but, censoring Black media be rayciss and scheit. I predict it will be a long time before Liberals can ever summon up the scrotal endowment to censor Blacks. Hell, Blacks will censor each other before DWLs get around to it.

Yes, of course gays > blacks in protected class hierarchy, so they were indicted.

Perhaps ― work with me on this this ― it is because, despite being White, gays are effeminate and, therefore, inspire not just one but two different categories of Liberal protected species (i.e., women and gays).

I've found cops to go after the lowest hanging fruit. hence gun confiscation from whites during Katrina, for example.

Considering how New Orleans is one of the most corrupt cities in America; that its police should the onerous task of actually enforcing the law is no surprise. Hell, remember that there were NOPD law officers participating in the Katrina looting.

The law exists to tax, disarm, and convict whites that defend themselves from black attackers.

Just wait until you get a snootful of what's happening in Britain. It makes America look like the Wild West all over again. In the UK, people who injure criminals as part of defending themselves or deterring a home invasion will often find themselves facing a harsher sentence than the criminal ever does. British law enforcement hates any and all competition, regardless of their total incompetence.

Blacks know damn well they won't be punished for black on white crime.

All the more reason for increased CCW.

So CAL Snowman said...

peterlike said:

"You ever notice that when you hear a gay black man speak, they pretty much always speak standard English perfectly well, and have little or no trace of Ebonic ghetto patois?"

Good point. It makes sense because gay black men don't spend their entire lives chasing the muff around and probably do not listen to as much hip hop and are therefore less likely to be immersed in "black culture." Hip Hop promotes nothing but misogynistic attitudes towards females so there is little reason to think gay blacks would be interested in that crap. And since homophobia is so rampant in the black community it would make sense that gay blacks do not speak, act and walk like their ghetto brethren.

Zenster said...

Robert in Arabia: Most white are too stupid to save.

To the contrary. MSM indoctrination has made most Whites unwilling to save themselves for fear of being smeared as "racist".

That will change soon enough and the innate intelligence of Whites will kick in to make mincemeat of Black thugs. Give it time.

Zenster said...

DW: My suggestion that encouraging students to learn how to use handguns would be cheaper and more effective than putting up more lights got me branded as a Redneck, and from that point on I was invisible.

That is priceless. You, as a woman, still could not suggest the one most effective way of preventing recidivism in rapists. I wonder how many of those NOW weeniettes would like to be raped twice. Remember, don't shoot to kill. (Just kidding; go for the head or center mass every time.)

It made me puke up most of the feminist Kool-Aid I'd swallowed.

I promise be there to hold you by the hair while you're regurgitating.

Anyway, this is SBPDL not SFDL, so I'll try to get this back on topic . . .

You are totally on topic with respect to DWL-style NOW weeniettes and their "soft racism".

You're right. White women have been taught that we should have solidarity with Blacks because we were both oppressed by those Evil White Males.

You'd think that the 300:1 ratio of Black on White versus White on Black rapes would have convinced these uppity dames otherwise.

White women need to wake up and see the real threat isn't from White men.

But … we're the ones who want to keep them barefoot and pregnant, along with buying them flowers, supporting the children, holding open doors for them, taking them to dinners and plays plus all sorts of other icky, hideous unmentionable things that usually don't involve anything more objectionable than a bit of playful spanking.

Need I mention what the Black guys have in mind?

Rusty Mason said...

"Now what the hell are we gonna do about it?"

Start now, right were you are. Be a leader in your family, church, community, etc. Arm yourself. Build and strengthen yourself morally, mentally, physically. Build your "tribe," your network of dependable friends and family. Travel in groups. Get a reputation as the honest guy who gets things done and protects the weak. Guys will respect you, chicks will to have your babies, and Chuck Norris will kill a commie in your honor.

Zenster said...

Charles Martel: The end of this nigmare oops I meant nightmare is on the horizon.

Effing witty. Thenk ewe.

The only silver lining on this dark storm cloud is that activities of this black protected class have allowed all their enemies to start aligning against a common threat.

In Commanality № 51 on my list of characteristics that are shared by Blacks and Muslims it is that:

They are assembling too many enemies too fast.

Whites, Asians, Hispanics, Jews, gays and even, some day, women will all close ranks and simply vote the legal rights of Blacks out of existence or start hunting down their gangstas with far more glee than Britishers have ever ridden to hounds.

The fuse has been lit and the aftermath will be a welcome period of world unity and temporary peace.

If ever there was a time to keep our powder dry, it is now that, "The fuse has been lit."

The solution is simple but requires discipline: No Retreat, No Surrender, No Empathy, No Sympathy, No Moving Away to another "whitopia". It is far, far better state of affairs to be hated and feared by ones' enemies than to be mocked and attacked as cowards.

Oderint dum metuant.

Fight back even if it means your demise, fight back.

It is better to die on one's feet than to live on one's knees.

The struggle we are embroiled in is not our struggle, it is a struggle for the future of the world.

If "World" = Civilization. Then agreed.

How long will you other men stand by and watch as helpless women and children are attacked, raped, robbed, stalked, burnt, macheted or arrested for speaking the truth (Emma West).

Thank you for mentioning Emma West. She, like my personal friend, Elisabeth Sabaditsch-Wolff (strongly recommended reading, especially for women), are undergoing Thoughtcrime trials in their respective countries.

We have all the time in the world to deal with other turmoils that we will face as a fractious world, but we must fight to secure that time.

Brilliant observation, Charles Martel! Quashing Islamic jihad and instituting Race Realism will provide the breathing room needed to counter the DWLs. Diverting ourselves into a domestic civil war with Liberals prior to that point will only embolden our enemies.

Even if the odds are 15-1, fight back.

In Brigadier General Sir John Hackett's book, "The Third World War" (the non-fiction version), he accurately predicted a 10:1 kill ratio in NATO versus Soviet jet aircraft dogfights. Any 15:1 odds are not to be dismissed.

"They are in front of us, behind us, and we are flanked on both sides by an enemy that outnumbers us 29:1. They can't get away from us now!"

― Lewis B. "Chesty" Puller, USMC ―


An excellent quote whose only modern version happens when, during the first Star Trek movie, James Tiberius Kirk declares:

Right … now that we've got them just where they want us.

Zenster said...

Paleface 6: "All over the country, although it is not being reported except in isolated incidents, Negroes are using a new robbery technique. 15 or 20 tough Negro males walk into a small store, and, at a given signal, run out with armfuls of goods. Nothing much can be done about it, since they are BLACK."

Cite please (i.e., Title, publication date, author's name and Dewey Decimal Number)? This is precisely the sort of documented, historical power-tool that Those Who Can See need in order to to establish a preexisting pattern of behavior that DWLs will no longer be able to deny.

Ivan .M said...

If American Blacks restricted themselves to peacefully opposing homosexual activism and helping people with unwanted same-sex attractions change, that would be fine by me.

This intense hatred and malicious violence that Negroes habitually direct toward homosexuals, however, is something the overwhelming majority of White social conservatives are repelled by. As far as the terrorizing of homosexuals in sub-Saharan Africa is concerned, that has been going on since the Arab Slave Trade and probably long before.

From what I can see, the Christianization of large swaths of Black Africa by Whites has actually had a mitigating effect on anti-gay violence there.

SCAM ALERT! said...

I have a sneaking suspicion that the author of this website is not white and doesn't celebrate Christmas.

This entire operation smells a paypal scam.

D J said...

To "Hate Crimes May Be Racist": we could almost be brothers! I, too, am like you, and look like a Viking as well.

I had a Navy negro (an E6 yet!) attempt to shake me down for my iPad while doing work on the base where he was stationed. He tried backing me into a corner, but I stood my ground and started heading HIS way! Then the yelling started, and that yelling was all mine. By the time I got done with him he was broken out in a sweat and the other people in the room (mostly bruthas) had their mouths hanging half way to the deck in shock.

To this day, he is likely wondering what in Sam Hill happened: he was bested in front of others by a 62 year old man who walks with the rolling gait of the arthritic; a big red and blond beard; tool pouches on his belt; camera around his neck; and a bad-ass temperament.

Ben N Indiana said...

Hunter Morrow said...

How many pro-abortion, GLBT loving, save-the-whales and ban-the-nukes blacks do you know of?


I know of one: Obama.

Ben N Indiana said...

Has it occurred to anyone that Obama is not the first black president? That he's the first mulatto president?

He's as White as he is black. Only the 'racist' one-drop rule makes him black.

(Herman Cain would have been the first black president.)

Anonymous said...

In a more traditional world, one opposed to libertarianism and liberalism (both the right and left variety), both Negroes and homosexuals knew their place.

The general acceptance of homosexuality as "normal" behavior also coincides with the push for "equal" rights for blacks, and other folks who are essentially unequal.

This, of course, is not to condone Negro (or other group) violence against homosexuals. But one must begin to think traditionally in a consistent manner if one is to derive a coherent and meaningful hierarchical understanding of human differences.

Much of the discussion here is still mired in a liberal foundation that must be abandoned, or modified significantly, if the Negro (and other) questions are to be solved.

Ivan Shatov said...

Zenster said:

"That will change soon enough and the innate intelligence of Whites will kick in to make mincemeat of Black thugs. Give it time."

Kind of like the whites in South Africa and Zimbabwe are defending themselves, right? Unfortunately, Zenster, the utopian nihilistic ideologies of toxic diversity multiculturalism seems to be dissolving the YTs ordinary resistance mechanism.

I hope you are correct but fear you are wrong.

be wise as serpents pdf said...

to : scamalert!

good looking out. personally I'm convinced everything is on the up and up. I've heard podcasts with SBPDL (interestingly, my android phone autosuggests SBPDL, in caps no less! I don't recall ever putting that in the dictionary on this new phone. hmm!)
and I think he's on the real.

The man has a day job and probably gets to work in a vibrant and diverse workplace, like most of us, and has to be careful.

That said, I could be wrong(doubt it. but it happens). Lots of organizations aren't what they seem. its prudent to be careful.

that said, I have noticed black sodomites act white. maybe thats the society they identify with. getting your ass beat by fellow tribe members would make me switch tribes as well!

on Lockup they seem more ghetto, but there's too many possible causes to mention

be wise as serpents pdf said...

Shatov! Great to see you post.

IMHO, *WE* are the resistance. There ain't nobody else.

My-t YT ain't coming to the party and will sit this one out, condemning us vocally while very possibly applauding in their hearts.

In other words, everybody wants to let someone else do the heavy lifting.

The 1776 revolution went off with 5% of the population involved.

There will never be a great systemic shift in thinking.

Luckily, we don't need many. The communist overthrow of the czar was instigated by only thousands, in the interest of discussion.

There are no easy answers, but as AJ says, we have to fight the infowars tooth and nail. Its our only hope.

TPTB know that of course, and their institutions of brainwashing and control are nearly dead.

That's why they're so desperate to reign in and coopt the net. Non corporate sites will get shutdown overnight when SOPA gets passed, or decreed by Black Caesar in the white house.

Anonymous said...

I think this was posted here before:

"Homies over Hoes", The Boondocks


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DV2U3yLSDvQ

Anonymous said...

No faggots in jack city. Why was this guy out of the gay area? Gays have an entire district of Atlanta to themselves

Anonymous said...

What people need to realize it that the chance to form new countries will present itself in the next decade when the global currency collapse occurs and you need to be ready to take advantage. Form up and get your shit strait.

Ivan Shatov said...

Tyd Om Te Trek

Here are the lyrics, roughly translated:

I did no loose you, but what won you?
You’re passport on the table pinned me down. You say war is coming, that burns within you. You ask am I coming with, to where you must go.
Refrain: You say it is time to trek (emigrate), to pack your heart, not to scatter us (can mean both as couple or Volk) But your words to me. . . . Do You want to stay behind?
There is so much more that I can say and would have done differently, but here in dark Africa that asked so much of us. What would it cost to just stay? Your words were to expensive, for what you wanted to say was already written against the wall.
Refrain.

Paleface 6 said...

@ Zenster -

I don't know if my reply to your source cite request re: 1966 flash mob formations, got through.

Check with PK if he doesn't want it publicly acknowledged, as it is quite a controversial source to say the least.

Kylie said...

"When is smeone gonna crash wolstarhiphop? It only encourages these chimps to act out."

Believe me, I do understand the feeling that prompted you to ask this question.

But it's not as though blacks need a lot of encouragement to act out. They behave this way in sub-Saharan Africa without any internet access at all.

Also, the more white people who see these videos that blacks themselves film and upload, the better off we all are.

Artur said...

I had a revelation last night. The term "multicultural" is a misnomer, an attempt by the anti-white globalizing elite to slide the racial angle of population replacement past unseeing whites.

By saying "multicultural" instead of what they really mean - namely "multiracial" - not only are the elites displaying their dark and sinister cynicism by so blatantly attempting to pull the wool over whitey's eyes, they are endowing their beloved non-white pets with a non-existent source of valor by the use of the word "culture."

As in, "the noble savage is such a worthy creature, it brings its vibrant culture to formerly bland, whitebread lands."

When you see usage of the term "multicultural," please politely point out on message boards etc. that the proper term is actually "multiracial."

Sincerely,

- crimesofthetimes.com

Zenster said...

Anonymous (February 9, 2012 9:10 AM): Basically, you got to get people to either IGNORE the MSM or to get them exposed to and interested SBPDL because it affects them both in the pocketbook and in their day-to-day living vis-a-vis Blacks.

That is the modern strategy in a nutshell. As So CAL Snowman likes to point out, find that loose thread and start tugging at it. Just make sure that others notice when things start to unravel.

Get them used to the idea that Human Bio-Diversity is REAL and totally reflected in the Bell Curve. The intelligence differences between different dog breeds might be a good thin edge of the wedge to start cleaving away their MSM cultural brainwashing.

Like the proverbial bus load of lawyers at the lake's bottom; it's a good starting point.

Zenster said...

Anonymous (February 9, 2012 10:01 AM): When is smeone gonna crash wolstarhiphop? It only encourages these chimps to act out.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

Let the chimps act out. We Who Can See avoid them like the plague so that the end result is an increasing number of Liberals being mugged by reality and joining those Who Can See.

Other than sincerely poring over SBPDL, exposure to a Knockout King or Mahogany Mob is one of the few avenues of obtaining flash conversion with Liberals.

A real turning point will come when WSHH makes the prime time television news on a regular basis.

Anonymous said...

Hate Crimes Be Racist,

I'm glad to see I'm not alone in "having eyes that can see " in Durham. Funny how we both live in the same undertow city and have found our separate ways to this site.

Zenster said...

Anonymous (February 9, 2012 10:17 AM): We whites could care less about People of Color and it's not even done maliciously in most cases.  We are so used to everything catering to our that standards it doesn't even dawn on us that there are other cultures who do things differently.

We get everything we deserve.


There you have it, folks. Liberal self-loathing and self-hatred all wrapped up in the White privilege camouflage of Cultural Marxism.

This is foot soldier/cannon fodder of your real enemy, the Cultural Marxist. Blacks are shock troops.

Zenster said...

Anonymous (February 9, 2012 10:47 AM): Besides, a stint in jail is a right of passage for 85% of this population, it's become a badge of honor.

Second only to the Black community's "no snitch" policy, a lack of stigma attached to being imprisoned is a huge toxin that will irreconciably divide it from regular society.

Employers rightfully question the reliability of ex-con work applicants and the fact that Blacks do not adequately perceive this negative aspect of criminal conviction and act upon it means facing constant rejection in the working world.

'Be nonviolent with those that are nonviolent with you, but if someone lays a hand on you, send him to the cemetery'. Malcolm X.

Straight from the horse's ass.

DW said...

It made me puke up most of the feminist Kool-Aid I'd swallowed.

I promise be there to hold you by the hair while you're regurgitating.


Ahahahhaaaa!! Thank you! That's awesome!

However, this incident happened 19 years ago. I think most of the poison's out by now.

Interesting synchronicity:

A few hours after posting about my adventures with feminists, I was surfing here at SBPDL and found an article were PK compares SWPL Whites with Untouchable Whites. Wish I'd had those terms in my vocabulary during the big fallout with NOW.

Winston Smith said...

I was intrigued by the flash mob citation, so tried to find it and got this interesting history of 'youth' riots at Chicago beaches.
I remember reading 'clockers' in 93ish as there's a line in there referring to a characters revelation at hearing 'youth' or the like used as a polite term for nigger.

anyway, the link to black flash mobs back to 1900 or so
www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/The-312/June-2011/Flash-Mobs-and-Chicago-Beach-Violence/

id love to see the other link

Zenster said...

Ben N Indiana: Seen this?

£200 million goes to Africa for starving Africans.

5 months later ...

£2.75 million reaches starving Africans.


That's not quite accurate. In reality, $200 million was pledged towards famine aid in Somalia.

To date, only Gabon, Mauritania, Mauritius, Rwanda and South Africa have together paid out the £2.75 million in question.

The rest are all dragging their knuckles … er, feet with regard to kicking down what they promised.

Zenster said...

Hunter Morrow: How many pro-abortion, GLBT loving, save-the-whales and ban-the-nukes blacks do you know of?

A burning question that every foaming, bleeding heart Liberal should be confronted with.

Liberals treat blacks with a potent mix of pity, disgust, disdain and disappointment. They feel like a really wronged Mommy. Mommy helped her kid study all week for the math test and he wound up getting an F on the test and rape-murdering the teacher.

Key word: "feel". No thinking involved, just emotions and feelings which will forever remain immune to quantification or scientific analysis.

Anonymous said...

Tripe from Duluth mayor and friends..This is an unlisted video, watch it before it's gone..

http://youtu.be/VWPGyc1WDXw

Zenster said...

Great deconstruction, NorCal, of Anonymous @ February 9, 2012 10:17 AM and that "We get everything we deserve", horse hockey.

Zenster said...

Anonymous (February 9, 2012 4:01 PM): A black coworker once commented to me about the number of black males who engaged in male on male sex. I said "isn't that homosexual sex?" and his response was "well it isn't as long as the black male is doing the penetration or being the recipient of oral sex." Told him that I thought that was splitting hairs. He agreed. Might be a thing of self hatred being reminded of what they (black males) really are.

This is not a matter of "splitting hairs" (pubic or otherwise), it is an absolute fact and represents № 52 of the similarities that can be drawn between Blacks and Muslims.

Muslims consider a boy without pubic hair as not being a "man". Therefore, by their lights, sex with such a person is not homosexual. There is a further issue that since no emotional love is involved, merely physical lust, again there is no bond which would normally qualify such activities as being homosexual.

If you want some perspective on this, view Frontline's excellent documentary about Afghanistan's bacha bazi or "bacha boys" who are dressed up as girls to dance for adult men that then bid at auction for their sexual companionship.

Remember the Taliban, those insanely puritanical and misogynistic loons? Would you believe that in 2007 they had to issue a list of 30 Rules regarding the conduct of their soldiers and commanders?

Number 19 states:

Taliban fighters must not take young boys without facial hair into their private quarters.

From the linked article:

Rule No. 19 obviously indicates that the sexual abuse of young boys is a prevalent and institutionalized phenomenon among the Taliban and that, for one reason or another, its widespread practice has become a problem.

The fact that Taliban militants’ spare time involves sodomizing young boys should by no means be any kind of surprise or eyebrow raiser. That a mass pathology such as this occurs in a culture which demonizes the female and her sexuality -- and puts her out of mind and sight -- is only to be expected. To be sure, it is a simple given that the religious male fanatic who flies into a violent rage even at the thought of an exposed woman’s ankle will also be, in some other dysfunctional and dark secret compartment of his fractured life, the person who leads some poor helpless young boy into his private chambers.

The key issue here is that the demented sickness that underlies Rule No. 19 is by no means exclusive to the Taliban; it is a widespread phenomenon throughout Islamic-Arab culture and it lies, among other factors, at the root of that culture’s addiction to rage and its lust for violence, terror and suicide.


More germane to the original topic is this excerpt:

It is no surprise that John Racy, a psychiatrist with much experience in Arab societies, has noted that homosexuality is “extremely common” in many parts of the Arab world. [1] Indeed, even though homosexuality is officially despised in this culture and strictly prohibited and punishable by imprisonment, incarceration and/or death, having sex with boys or effeminate men is actually a social norm. Males serve as available substitutes for unavailable women. The key is this: the male who does the penetrating is not considered to be homosexual or emasculated any more than if he were to have sex with his wife, while the male who is penetrated is emasculated. The boy, however, is not considered to be emasculated since he is not yet considered to be a man. A man who has sex with boys is simply doing what many men (especially unmarried ones) do.

This is almost identical to the Black model of homosexuality and its denial that's being examined.

Zenster said...

MuayTyson: Perfect let's make one. Have some White guy dress like Robert Downey Jr. from Tropic Thunder stage a beat down use all the little things liberals like you know; Red necks, the N word, Pick-up trucks and post it to WSHH.

When the media picks it up and you know they will BLAMMO! they will lose what little respectability that they have. All you have to do is let the ruminate on the video for a week then come out as performance artists and say you wanted to see what would happen.


Excellent idea, just like the exposés of ACORN and NPR done by videographer James O'Keefe. What better way is there of ensuring that WSHH shows up on the MSM's radar?

Zenster said...

Ivan Shatov: Kind of like the whites in South Africa and Zimbabwe are defending themselves, right?

Wrong. Whites were a minority in both of those countries. That does not apply here in America.

So CAL Snowman said...

Ben N Indiana said:

"Has it occurred to anyone that Obama is not the first black president? That he's the first mulatto president?

He's as White as he is black. Only the 'racist' one-drop rule makes him black."

It definitely occurred to me as I'm sure it occurred to MILLIONS of other Whites. It was one in a LONG list of things that led me down the path of race realism. The fact that they pressed SO HARD on Obama's blackness and only made passing attempts at him being "bi-racial" was a clear indication that the race angle was being played in a very sinister way.

The thing is, Obama is not at all representative of the black community in the USA. He had a white mom, his father was Kenyan and therefore HAD NO CONNECTION TO ANTEBELLUM SLAVERY (THE uniting force among Blacks in the USA), was adopted by an Indonesian Muslim man, lived in Indonesia for most of his childhood (as a muslim) and then went to live with his White grandparents in Hawaii. After this he allegedly went to Occidental, and then onto the Ivy League. Typical Black In America experience right? Yet Blacks absolutely FAWN over this guy as if he were one of their own SIMPLY BECAUSE OF HIS SKIN COLOR. It makes no sense that they would back this OBVIOUS FRAUD except for the fact that, you know, he's a Brutha keepin' it real.

Obama Sings AL Green

SwampThizzle said...

Know blacks? Know problems. No blacks? No problems. It really is as simple as that.

Zenster said...

Ben N Indiana: Has it occurred to anyone that Obama is not the first black president? That he's the first mulatto president?

He's as White as he is black. Only the 'racist' one-drop rule makes him black.


It certainly occurred to me back in April of 2008 when BHO was still on the campaign trail and I wrote about this exact topic in my essay, "One Drop of Liberal Blood". An excerpt:

Let’s please have it understood that Barack Hussein Obama is not Black. He is, by proper definition, a mulatto, being descended from both black and white parents. Rest assured that Obama plays himself up as a Black Man but that in no way changes his actual genetic and ancestral heritage. What it does signify is that Barack Hussein Obama is more than willing to ignore racial realities within his own personal realm when they conflict with his overall political vision.

What this bodes in terms of how he will deal with racial issues upon becoming President is not at all heartening. Furthermore, it is a bellwether of even more disturbing possibilities with respect to how such a man might seek to run this world’s greatest superpower.

In an obscene reinvention of Jim Crow doctrine, the thoroughly reviled “One-Drop Rule“ has found new life in American liberals and with Barack Hussein Obama in particular:

The one-drop rule is an historical colloquial term in the United States that holds that a person with any trace of sub-Saharan ancestry (however small or invisible) cannot be considered white and so unless the person has an alternative non-white ancestry that he or she can claim, such as Native American, Asian, Arab, Australian aboriginal, the person must be considered black.

By Obama’s own reasoning it would seem as though this long discredited and viciously racist notion — that even the slightest bit of Black ancestry makes a person entirely Black — suddenly has new validity and pertinence in our time. Perish the thought that — as Black Supreme Court jurist Thurgood Marshall insisted — “classifications and distinctions based upon race or color have no moral or legal validity in our society.”



The towering moral hypocrisy whereby a man of mixed racial heritage has arrogated himself the label of “Black Man” by dint of an incredibly offensive racist doctrine and yet eludes any calumny for doing so speaks volumes about the Liberal Left’s selective memory. That Barack Hussein Obama has become “Black enough” through such discredited genetic chicanery serves up notice that — quite possibly — nothing else about him may be as it seems. [emphasis added]

Zenster said...

While reviewing the links for my "One Drop of Liberal Blood" excerpt I, once again, read up on Jim Crow.

Here is a summary of its rules:

1. Never assert or even intimate that a White person is lying.

2. Never impute dishonorable intentions to a White person.

3. Never suggest that a White person is from an inferior class.

4. Never lay claim to, or overly demonstrate, superior knowledge or intelligence.

5. Never curse a White person.

6. Never laugh derisively at a White person.

7. Never comment upon the appearance of a White female.

Imagine the reduction in friction and outright conflict that would result were these rules put in place. I am in no way saying that Jim Crow was fair or, even, honorable. My sole point is that a gigantic amount of TNB would be taken straight off of the block by their renewed enforcement.

Anonymous said...

Response: was the cop white? I love that he was fishing for a reason to put you in the wrong.
Yes, he was white. All SF cops are heavily diversified trained. If you are white and a victim of a black, forget police protection, straight or gay.

I wish people understood, liberalism is basically a lesbian influence among gays born out of the feminist hate of anything with a penis. The prevailing wisdom of the old gays died out with the generation affected by AIDs in the 80s and 90s. Historically gays are very conservative and have always known that hate crimes will change nothing. If people hate you because you are gay, there is no amount of legislation that is going to change that. Will a hate crime bring back a murdered person? Will it make a black thug think twice before murdering or bashing anyone, gay or straight? Can a murderer possibly not hate someone they are murdering? In the days of prevailing wisdom, most gays knew that if someone hated you for whatever reason, there was not much that I could do about it, but most of all no ‘extra special rights legislation’ was going to change anything. The liberalization of the gay community has mostly to do with the lesbian influence where a new axe to grind must always be found or they will need to find a job. They followed the black model very effectively.

It seems funny, ten years ago we laughed at the dyke trying to get us to sign a petition to support gay marriage. Those of us that knew then, know that that would/will only be for the benefit of divorce lawyers.

Jay Santos said...

Zenster said: A real turning point will come when WSHH makes the prime time television news on a regular basis.

Somewhere in Hollywood an acceptable spin on WSHH is being discussed in a comfortable setting, replete with fresh fruit juices and healthy snacks, by white men in suits (or whatever the latest high fashion might be, suits with baseball caps on sideways, perhaps). GM will be solicited for ad dollars. Lil' Wayne will put together a beat. Michelle Obama will solemnly open each episode, encouraging the audience to eat well.

It will be presented as a "raw" and "real" look at the rage of the disaffected youth. It will be a little edgy at first and then before you know it, it's as normal as the sun rise.

Yup, that's where it's going. And best of all, you SBPDL readers will have an opportunity to be a star in the beat down!

Anonymous said...

White Guilt Month continues...

http://video.pbs.org/video/2185408208

Anonymous said...

"Wrong. Whites were a minority in both of those countries. That does not apply here in America."

Yet. SA was flooded with black workers after the boer wars to mine De Beer's diamonds.

Doubleplus good said...

WSHH is our ally and deserves all the support we can give it.

People are so conditioned to watching tv, those videos can accomplish in a few minutes what words cannot.

People without 'diverse" lives can witness firsthand the gleeful 'enrichment.'

It does have to be seen to be believed.

I'm still chuckling over that AA suggesting a white city would be boring.

I don't share his contempt for European- Americans (we can be hyphenated too!)

I've experienced it, tonight in fact. Its so beautiful to be around decent white folks without fear of predation or ridicule.

and we dance badly and nobody cares. and someone bumps into you at a crowded bar and its apologies all around. politeness and courtesies are in abundance. home schooling is common, as are dance lessons, instrument lessons, hiking trails in parks without a hint of litter or graffiti despite heavy use.

that culture the media denies we have is called western civilization.

to steal a phrase, blacks in africa aren't in the stone age, they're in the stick age, and going nowhere fast.

they can keep their filth culture of negativity and perversion of ours.

I'm moving, maybe to the NW. After seeing how awesome whitopia really is, I want none of what the babylon of los angeles has to offer.

Caiden said...

Zen, like most people I don't know much about Jim Crow other then it was 'bad'. What's interesting about reading your post is that first thing I thought about is we are still living with Jim Crow it's just against whites.

Never impute dishonorable intentions to a White person is now never impute dishonorable intentions to a negro.

Society will automatically call you a mean ole racist if you think a black is not being upfront, plus the black will sucker punch you from behind and then stomp your head, and since blacks are more used to prison and will be a jail block hero for attacking a white life inside isn't to different than life outside.

Caiden said...

Ivan, as Zenster state whites aren't a minority to blacks. There are alot more whites then blacks.

There are also alot of asians and hispanics. I know most asians don't like blacks, and blacks and hispanics do compete for low income jobs and each know they're draining the well dry from the same government teat.

If the government is giving money to an illegal with 5 kids, as dumb as blacks are they know there is less money to go to him and his 5 illegimate niglets.

While not widely reported in the white liberal media I think the news of the black gang rape of a hispanic child in TX is more widely known with hispanics. Hispanics do have spanish language stations, plus they'er not brainwashed to ignore the blacks who attack them as DWL are. A simple seach for 'hispanics attacking blacks' on youtube brings up alot of stories of blacks and hispanics fighting.

With hispanics the bad thing is we have alot of illegals who mostly act like blacks. Not well educated to had to travel to the US to get low paying jobs that don't need creditals. Construction work used to be the male equivilant of a waitress, almost any guy could do it, plus it used to pay pretty well. Now because of illegals it's doesn't pay enough for a white person unless he wants to live in an apartment with 9 roommmates.


But the hispanics who've been here for generations are closer to asians and whites then niggers, they support their families, they try to maintain good neighborhoods, not usually looking for trouble, ie chimps who will attack you for disrepecting.


While the situation in the US is far from good, we're nowhere near as screwed as SA. Eventually Africans are signing their own death warrants, as the Western world collapses under socialism there will be ALOT less money for aid to Africa. I've read alot about how many charities have less donations over the last 2 years. When the whites in Aficia flee or are killed the blacks will just slowly starve to death. Most don't have the mental capabilities to grow food on their own. Look at those 'feed Africa' campaings from the 80s, sacks of flour to staving negros to stupid to create a system that can feed themselves, to stupid to grow food, to stupid to raise livestock, their stupidy causes their deaths and we felt bad for the stupid people.

At my most depressed over the situation over our world, I take some comfort that whatever happens to whites it will be 10 times worse for blacks because blacks are incapable of self preservation in a modern adult world. Without white man's technology or assistance and no longer have the most basical survival instincts most blacks will die like a pampered pet left in the woods.

Anonymous said...

True that DWLs are the true enemy but the best way to attack them is with their pet minoroties.

Anonymous said...

Z wrote: I am in no way saying that Jim Crow was fair or, even, honorable. My sole point is that a gigantic amount of TNB would be taken straight off of the block by their renewed enforcement.

Fairness in your sense appears to be grounded within a distinctly liberal idea based upon equality. Otherwise, why would you imply (although you did not come right out and state) that such unequal treatment was not fair?

At the same time you soft-peddle the reintroduction of Jim Crow due to "utility." That is to say, a reimposition of the laws would most likely reduce errant behavior.

If social questions (of which the Negro question is but one) are to be answered, liberal ideas of "fairness" must be replaced with more traditional notions of what is "proper" and "fitting" for a people. Only then will the virtues, such as honor, ever manifest.

Such a ground is classical and non-liberal. It is also not based on utility, but is rather a moral view with a foundation derived from essentialism.

We must consider a little deeper. Often, liberalism infects our way of thinking and our speech very subtly, even as we try to escape it.

Anonymous said...

Zenster said: A real turning point will come when WSHH

wshh?????
white ?? shh?

Zenster said...

mpresley: Fairness in your sense appears to be grounded within a distinctly liberal idea based upon equality.

Pound sand.

What part of the way that "Never comment upon the appearance of a White female." violates a person's Constitutional right to Free Speech do you not understand?

Until you're ready to selectively repeal Constitutional Rights for certain portions of this nation's citizenry, Jim Crow will remain unfair.

There is a whole lot of very basic and relatively simple law enforcement or sentencing that could curb huge amounts of TNB were it not for the constraints of political correctness. That us where we need to start and not by shredding the Constitution.

Anonymous said...

I am a young gay man from a liberal background and have lived around blacks far too long to regard them as equal or even conspecific to me. I want nothing to do with them -- period.

My experience with blacks is the reason why I'm no longer a liberal.

Kylie said...

mpresley wrote" "If social questions (of which the Negro question is but one) are to be answered, liberal ideas of 'fairness' must be replaced with more traditional notions of what is 'proper' and 'fitting' for a people. Only then will the virtues, such as honor, ever manifest.

Such a ground is classical and non-liberal. It is also not based on utility, but is rather a moral view with a foundation derived from essentialism.

We must consider a little deeper. Often, liberalism infects our way of thinking and our speech very subtly, even as we try to escape it."


What an elegant expression of an essential truth.

Liberalism is indeed ubiquitous, even in the positions of many who sincerely believe themselves to be conservatives or traditionalists.

I myself had a serious moral struggle over whether or not to vote in the last US presidential election. (As a hard-line traditionalist, I don't believe women should have the franchise and prior to 2008, I had never voted.) But I felt it so crucial that Obama be defeated if possible that I eventually decided to vote. I used as the basis for my decision the notion that in times of national distress, women may be called on to assume responsibilities that in more peaceful times are quite rightly the exclusive province of men (e.g., Rosie the Riveters in WWII).

Yes, the liberal rot is everywhere and we must always be on our guard against it. So well, said, mpresley, thank you.

Zenster said...

mpresley: If social questions (of which the Negro question is but one) are to be answered, liberal ideas of "fairness" must be replaced with more traditional notions of what is "proper" and "fitting" for a people. Only then will the virtues, such as honor, ever manifest.

What you are suggesting is the legislation of morality. Not only does it not work it is the very last thing you want big government poking its nose into.

Morals have to be taught at home and, to a lesser extent, within the community. Any misconduct resulting from an absence of such teaching must be addressed through public censure or the justice system.

It is precisely this overwhelming absence of home-taught morals within the Black community that sees our prison system awash in Black inmates.

Such a ground is classical and non-liberal. It is also not based on utility, but is rather a moral view with a foundation derived from essentialism.

None of which changes how you do not want government diddling around with such things. A government that can legislate morality is one step away from a theocracy that can legally interpret individual beliefs. That is a slippery slope which no one should wish to get anywhere near.

We must consider a little deeper. Often, liberalism infects our way of thinking and our speech very subtly, even as we try to escape it.

You do realize, don't you, that there is some degree of overlap between Classical Liberalism and its corrupted form of Modern Liberalism? It's why a great many Modern Liberal causes can sound so reasonable until you peel back the veneer of ostensible dignity and justice being sought to get a peek at the dog's breakfast of cognitive processing that drives such drivel.

Zenster said...

Anonymous (February 11, 2012 9:05 AM): wshh?????

WorldStarHipHop, a veritable cornucopia of TNB.

Zenster said...

Jay Santos: Somewhere in Hollywood an acceptable spin on WSHH is being discussed in a comfortable setting, replete with fresh fruit juices and healthy snacks, by white men in suits (or whatever the latest high fashion might be, suits with baseball caps on sideways, perhaps). GM will be solicited for ad dollars. Lil' Wayne will put together a beat. Michelle Obama will solemnly open each episode, encouraging the audience to eat well.

It will be presented as a "raw" and "real" look at the rage of the disaffected youth. It will be a little edgy at first and then before you know it, it's as normal as the sun rise.
[emphasis added]

Your prediction is more than a little disturbing. All the more reason for doing whatever it takes to keep BHO from being reelected.

Kylie said...

Zenster wrote, "It is precisely this overwhelming absence of home-taught morals within the Black community that sees our prison system awash in Black inmates."

Yes and no. With all due respect, Zenster, I don't think you've fully taken in just what the lack of black intelligence signifies in every realm.

It is precisely this overwhelming absence of abstract intelligence in black people that sees the black community awash in every sort of pathology and criminality. You cannot teach to your children what you yourself have failed to learn.

Blacks simply aren't intelligent enough to comprehend--much less internalize--a moral framework as whites can do.

Black people can be generous, friendly, good-hearted and helpful. But these qualities, admirable as they are, do not necessarily derive from a moral framework. They can proceed simply from benevolent feelings. It's only when we don't feel generous, friendly, good-hearted or helpful but act so anyway regardless of how we feel because we know it's the right thing to do in a given situation that we can be said to be acting morally.

Concepts like justice, duty, responsibility--all the principles that make a civil and civilized society possible--aren't even on the radar of most blacks. Such principles are too abstract and too removed from the possibility of immediate gratification or benefit to be of interest to most black people. This is why blacks behave best when they are externally policed (e.g., through Jim Crow or Christianity). Internal policing--i.e., the doing what is right because it is right, not because it is of immediate personal benefit to you--is simply foreign to most blacks because it is too abstract for them to comprehend.

Anonymous said...

This is from the National Socialist Review..no mention of what Bakke and Chavis did after graduation!

Attacks on ‘Black rights’ and the gains of the civil rights movement didn’t begin in the 1980s but got their start when Democratic President Jimmy Carter was in office. Under the Carter administration, a 1978 Supreme Court ruling against affirmative action unofficially began the concerted rollback on civil rights.
In 1978 the U.S. Supreme Court made its landmark Bakke decision, which set in motion a decade of attacks on affirmative action programs. The Court ruled that Allan Bakke, a white male, had been denied a place at the University of California at Davis medical school due to "reverse discrimination" policies which victimized white males. The medical school’s policy of setting aside 16 of its 100 annual openings for non-white students was found to be discriminatory against "better qualified" whites. But several important facts about the Bakke case never surfaced in the mass media. The first is that the medical school at Davis also set aside a certain number of places each year for the sons and daughters of wealthy (white) alumni. Secondly, 36 of the 84 white students admitted the year Bakke applied had lower test scores than Bakke. Bakke, moreover, had been turned down by 10 other medical schools.

Anonymous said...

THANKS ZENSTER!

WSHH..........NAAH..I avoid most black 'entertainment' and 'culture'.

Discard said...

Things like "rights" or "democracy" are suitable only for civilized beings. I don't ask the consent of my dog or my kids when I need to make a decision, not do I let them make their own rules. Why would I allow any sort of social or political equality between Whites and Darks?

Anonymous said...

Z wrote" You do realize, don't you, that there is some degree of overlap between Classical Liberalism and its corrupted form of Modern Liberalism?

I was not writing of either classical or modern liberalism. Classical liberalism is generally an Enlightenment derived notion, although it's political genesis can be traced to earlier to Hobbes, and in a way, Machiavelli. Modern liberalsm is simply the logical progression of its classical form.

Instead, I was speaking of non-liberal classical notions that are not based upon right, but rather grounded within a deeper sense of shared social organic unity. It is classical in that its beginning expositions were discussed by Plato, and even more importantly by Aristotle.

A short history lesson: the distinction can be highlighted within Aristotle's Politics, where the state is logically prior to the individual. It is the other way around in liberalism. The father of modern liberalism, Hobbes, inverted Aristotelian notions, and claimed that not only were all men essentially equal, but that they shared equally in the "right of nature." It was the start of a downhill slide from then.

As far as rights go, any political theory based on rights is bound to lead to the same problems we have now.

Finally, the idea that "morality" cannot be legislated is a misunderstanding of both the nature of law and morality. Morality has always been upheld by law to one degree or the other. What must be determined, though, is the basis of law. If it is deemed to be strictly positive, then it may actually become immoral, or certainly amoral. In this regard, it is better if civil law is based upon natural law.

Of course, after the Enlightenment destruction of the basis of traditional morality, and its subsequent philosophical critique by Nietzsche and others, many felt unable to even hold forth moral questions any longer. But that is another story, albeit certain a related story.

Discard said...

Zenster: All societies legislate morality. There may be such a thing as laws that do not enforce some kind of moral vision, but I can't think of any. How can a law be seen as unfair, unless there is some moral standard to judge it by?

Ralph said...

I would like to make an observation. The illegals we get in this country may have an even lower IQ than the average American Negro. I have read (although you can read a great many things on the internet) that the average IQ of an illegal in LA, Ca is 82. I can believe this, given that the average IQ in Mexico is 87, and this is somewhat boosted by the 9 percent white population. I think the illegals we get in this country are the bottom of the barrel from Mexico.

However, the Mexicans are not quite so prone to violence and will work. They are not something that I think we want in the country either, given their astounding birthrate, which is, of course, paid for by the white man. If they had to pay for their own children rather than it being a source of income for them, the birthrate would fall to probably a third of what it is now.

Ivan Shatov said...

Zenster said:

"You can't legislate morality!"

One of the oldest canards out there. What are the laws against murder if not legislating morality? What are the laws against stealing if not legislating morality? We can, and we must legislate morality.

Now regarding Negro intelligence. Blacks are substantially less intelligent than whites and Asians - of that there can be no doubt. But it is materialist reductionism of the worst sort to suppose that this is all that distinguishes the Negro from whites. High criminality, low impulse control and failure to civilize or be civilized are just a few of the other profound differences we must consider.

The Negro is an entirely different animal. Less intelligent, yes, but different in too many other ways to fully comprehend. Asians are also profoundly different. Possibly more intelligent, but without Europeans the Asian world would lack mercy and kindness which distinguish the European.

We need to start hating the non-Europeans. Hate is emancipating. Until and unless we avail ourselves of our capacity for hate we shall fail.

Interestingly, many of the homos(no insult intended) here seem to comprehend this better than most. I do not approve of this lifestyle, but if they are of our tribe I say live and let live - for God's sake just don't expect us to turn our culture and traditions inside out to accommodate you.

Zenster and others who declare smugly that we are a majority and SA, 1790s Haiti and Rhodesia couldn't happen here - you'd better think again. It can, and it will. The European is now less than 10% of world population. Our children will live in a world where darkies outnumber YTs. Trust me the darky hatred of one another is nothing compared to their hatred for their common enemy - YT.

Cindy said...

Zenster is incorrect on homosexuality in Islamic Arab societies. Effimate men and tranvestites are hunted down and killed, not seen as "substite for women", since gender-bending is forbidden in patriarchal religions like Islam and is a huge perversion (it's despised by Allah) and there is no substition (it's forbidden). I've talked to Arab Muslim women and from their views these men have sex with adult men and ADOLESCENT boys (not children). Basically it's: marriage and children by women in public and sex with men and adoslecent boys once in a while in private while not allowing public exposure of homosexuality. This whole idea that patriarchal Islamic men who view the sexes as different are touching gender-benders, shemales and little children is mistaken and contradictory. Unlike Western feminists, Muslim men don't believe that there that the sexes are equal and view the whole idea of gender-bending as repugnant.

Cindy said...

They didn't beat him and call him 'faggot' because he f*cked other dudes; LOTS of black bucks do that.

They attacked him because he didn't keep it on the "down low".


This is one important aspect that is missing from this discussion. A couple of societies tolerate occasional homosexual behaviour but they don't approve of a gay identity.

Anonymous said...

How come PK hasn't updated the site in 3 days? Not like him to let it go for this long....could something be wrong?

Zenster said...

Kylie: With all due respect, Zenster, I don't think you've fully taken in just what the lack of black intelligence signifies in every realm.

I'm glad you checked in, Kylie. Your input is always useful and typically well-thought out.

Black intelligence is a deadly serious issue as a lack thereof seems to be a major contributing factor to so much violence and murder committed by Blacks. While I might be guilty of projecting intelligence where there is little to be found, it is also necessary to operate within the existing legal framework. And by that, I mean a strictly interpreted Constitutional one and not the Politically Correct manure pile of today's legal system.

It is precisely this overwhelming absence of abstract intelligence in black people that sees the black community awash in every sort of pathology and criminality.

On this we agree completely.

You cannot teach to your children what you yourself have failed to learn.

It is hard to argue against the simple fact that there does not seem to be much of any moral tradition within a lot of the Black community.

Blacks simply aren't intelligent enough to comprehend--much less internalize--a moral framework as whites can do.

At this point I would like to excerpt a really interesting comment by Mr. Rational in last Tuesday's "It's Time to Play the Game" thread. To wit:

This is a good time to point out a pertinent piece on IQ versus criminality. Criminology: Intelligence and crime. A selection:

Kohlberg (1976), Candee (1984) Smetana (1990)

- Suggest low IQ is linked to failure to develop beyond first stage of moral development (effectively have learning difficulties)

- First stage = preconventional, people put own desires first, only obey law out of fear of punishment, one-dimensional thinking.

- Second stage = conventional, people learn law and accept it because should be followed.

- Third stage = postconventional, fully developed moral character. Person capable of testing law against abstract concepts of justice, fairness and respect for human beings and their rights.


This suggests, as you also note, that voluntary and consistent moral behavior may not be possible below a certain IQ.

[to be continued]

Zenster said...

The implications of this potential link between low IQ and criminal propensity are quite serious as any resolution of the issues presented by such limitations in IQ will take on some profound dimensions.

Black people can be generous, friendly, good-hearted and helpful. But these qualities, admirable as they are, do not necessarily derive from a moral framework.

We are in total agreement. They can just as often be arbitrary or momentarily motivated gestures that do not correspond to an overall moral framework.

They can proceed simply from benevolent feelings. It's only when we don't feel generous, friendly, good-hearted or helpful but act so anyway regardless of how we feel because we know it's the right thing to do in a given situation that we can be said to be acting morally.

As the old saying goes:

Character is doing the right thing when nobody's looking.

Concepts like justice, duty, responsibility--all the principles that make a civil and civilized society possible--aren't even on the radar of most blacks.

Apparently so but does that implicitly infer that such ideas cannot be taught to Blacks in some way? This will remain a crucial issue in any ensuing discussion.

Such principles are too abstract and too removed from the possibility of immediate gratification or benefit to be of interest to most black people.

Civilization is often said to be based upon deferred gratification and the inability of most Blacks to demonstrate that cardinal virtue certainly argues against them being civilized. The social conditions of Sub-Saharan Africa are standing testimony to this fact as well.

This is why blacks behave best when they are externally policed (e.g., through Jim Crow or Christianity).

This is specifically why I noted how Jim Crow automatically inhibits a large amount of TNB.

Internal policing--i.e., the doing what is right because it is right, not because it is of immediate personal benefit to you--is simply foreign to most blacks because it is too abstract for them to comprehend.

That is why I cited Mr. Rational's comment.

The implications of this are enormous. Corrective measures border on eugenics. Non-corrective measures, with respect to Blacks themselves, almost automatically suggest intensive, forced segregation of the sort that was once seen with “Sundown Towns” or far worse.

What’s more, almost all functional responses to this situation require a suspension of civil rights if not a complete abrogation of all Constitutional rights for Blacks. This is neither practicable, at this time, nor are anywhere near enough Whites comfortable with such ideas to the point where they can even be discussed in a dispassionate manner.

Even the most basic approaches to this suggest that there should be competency examinations for all convicted criminals to determine if they are even capable of moral judgment. Those who are not would have to be confined to reservations or what amounts to concentration camps. This is all some pretty ugly stuff, not that we aren’t already experiencing a lot of “ugly stuff” in the form of Mahogany Mobs and disproportionate Black rape or murder statistics.

I will readily admit to proposing an "Australian Model" for the exile of violent or habitual criminals. Any steps beyond reservations or exile instantly imply deportation, denial of citizenship and a host of other exceptionally controversial measures.

I’m curious as to what you and mpresley have to suggest, based on these observations.

DW said...

As a hard-line traditionalist, I don't believe women should have the franchise and prior to 2008, I had never voted.

Wow! It's rare to meet another woman who believes this.

I vote in national elections because I cancel out a Democrat woman's vote.

So CAL Snowman said...

Some interesting posts regarding black morality or lack thereof.

Kyrie says: "Blacks simply aren't intelligent enough to comprehend--much less internalize--a moral framework as whites can do."

I think it goes beyond that. Let me borrow a phrase from the Liberal handbook here; Beyond the intelligence debate, Blacks simply lack the "cross cultural competence" to peacefully and successfully "coexist" with Whites and adopt our moral framework as their own. Look at the vast cultural and sociological changes that have occurred in Western Civ over the past 2000+ years. We have gone from the Greek City States, to the Roman Republic, to the Roman EMPIRE, to the dark ages ruled over by Feudal Kings and Nobles, to the Renaissance, to the Age of Scientific Discovery, to the Age of Enlightenment, and finally to our current systems of Capitalism and Socialism with elections by the people. During this period we have had scholars and philosophers endlessly debate the role of government, the role of women and men in society, how society should be organized, etc. We have had tyrants and dictators (Napoleon, King James III) and incredible leaders and visionaries (Charlemagne, Thomas Jefferson). Our history is incredible DIVERSE!

My point is, that while the White Race has gone through dramatic and Globe altering changes, the Black race has largely remained STATIC and stuck some 2000 years BEHIND the Whites. As our Western Civ. evolved and progressed, so to did our social and moral philosophies. Much of Africa is the same as it was some 2000 years ago, tribal warfare, black on black slavery, cannibalism and a general lack of civilization. It took us over 2000 years to get to where we are today, ITS IN THE BLOOD.

Also Non whites in Western CIV see EVERYTHING through the prism of race. They do not understand our way of life and thinking precisely because they are not us. They have their own Moral code that sees WHITE morality as KEEPING THEM DOWN.

Kyrie said: "Concepts like justice, duty, responsibility--all the principles that make a civil and civilized society possible--aren't even on the radar of most blacks."

Again this is true because look at the current and historical situation in Africa. The concepts of justice, duty and responsibility mean NOTHING to a people WITHOUT a civilization. That's not to say that they approved of murdering one another, it just means tribal warfare and horrific acts of violence were just par for the course. The ideas of "Social Justice", "SociaL Duty" and "Social Responsibility" are advanced concepts born out of modern civilization. Interestingly the Ancient Greeks adhered to these concepts at the same time that Africa was still stuck in stone age tribalism.

Zenster said...

Caiden: What's interesting about reading your post is that first thing I thought about is we are still living with Jim Crow it's just against whites.

Great observation! So called "reverse racism" ― which is just plain old racism by another name ― is the norm today. Its ultimate fruit is the stunning degree of incompetence demonstrated by both BHO in terms of foreign policy and the Attorney General's office in the form of Eric "My People" Holder's blatant anti-white bias.

Zenster said...

Anonymous (February 11, 2012 7:04 AM): True that DWLs are the true enemy but the best way to attack them is with their pet minorities.

Which is all the more reason to vigorously self-segregate so that DWL's are the only prey available to Blacks. Black thugs will convert DWLs to Conservatives one beatdown or rape at a time.

Ben N Indiana said...

IMHO . . .

The purpose of Jim Crow was to protect White people from black violence and crime.

Nothing more. Nothing less.

Jim Crow lives in urban shopping malls. Black teens are banned.

The mall rules say something like this: 'Persons age 18 and under must be in the company of a parent or adult at all times.'

The purpose isn't to ban teens. The purpose is to ban black teens who intimidate shoppers, are loud, are obnoxious, shop lift. bum money off of shoppers, etc.

There are no such rules in Whitopia malls of which I am aware.

News story about malls restricting teens

Zenster said...

mpresley: Classical liberalism is generally an Enlightenment derived notion, although it's political genesis can be traced to earlier to Hobbes, and in a way, Machiavelli.

I agree.

Modern liberalism is simply the logical progression of its classical form.

Here, I disagree. I was not a "logical progression" that has so thoroughly warped Classical Liberalism into its supposedly modern form. Classical Liberalism is relatively Conservative with respect to individual rights. Modern Liberalism cannot make that claim, regardless of how stridently it does.

Misplaced Christian universalism, competitive altruism and Cultural Marxism's exhortation of Liberals to equalize, not just opportunity but outcome are more likely agents in the detrimental transmutation of Classical Liberalism.

Instead, I was speaking of non-liberal classical notions that are not based upon right, but rather grounded within a deeper sense of shared social organic unity. It is classical in that its beginning expositions were discussed by Plato, and even more importantly by Aristotle.

It sounds as if you are referring to Natural Law.

A short history lesson: the distinction can be highlighted within Aristotle's Politics, where the state is logically prior to the individual. It is the other way around in liberalism. The father of modern liberalism, Hobbes, inverted Aristotelian notions, and claimed that not only were all men essentially equal, but that they shared equally in the "right of nature." It was the start of a downhill slide from then.

Only if you view individualism as a negative philosophical or political trait. I would suggest that it is corrupt (i.e., immoral or unethical) individuals that are the problem and not individuality itself.

[to be continued]

Zenster said...

As far as rights go, any political theory based on rights is bound to lead to the same problems we have now.

Then please explain how America managed to function so well for so long.

Finally, the idea that "morality" cannot be legislated is a misunderstanding of both the nature of law and morality. Morality has always been upheld by law to one degree or the other.

Here I must refer you (and Ivan Shatov), to an excellent comment by Kylie in Part I of my "Dis-Integration of America essay:

No, legislating morality is not one of the basic functions of government. You should not infer that it is from the fact that legitimate governments can and do pass laws prohibiting certain words and actions.

You are confusing protecting persons and property with protecting people's feelings. Laws against murder, rape and theft are about protecting persons and property, which is one of the basic functions of government. The fact that there are points of overlap between government provided protection of persons and property and the moral framework offered by Western civilization does not mean the two are synonymous.


While this assertion was made in the context of how "the Civil Rights Act is an illegitimate attempt by the government to legislate morality", it still remains pertinent.

What must be determined, though, is the basis of law. If it is deemed to be strictly positive, then it may actually become immoral, or certainly amoral. In this regard, it is better if civil law is based upon natural law.

Certain socioeconomic tools are necessarily amoral without any inherent negative consequence. Capitalism is a prime example. It is essentially colorblind and assures the greatest degree of fair opportunity among those who act in good faith.

Much of modern law devolves from two basic principals. Namely, a person's right to live unfettered so long as they do not infringe upon the rights of others and the right of that person to hold and retain their private property.

Of course, after the Enlightenment destruction of the basis of traditional morality, and its subsequent philosophical critique by Nietzsche and others, many felt unable to even hold forth moral questions any longer.

I commend your negative attribution of nihilism. Much of modern day society's ills can be traced to nihilist mentality. The prevailing and popular obsession with death or satanic symbols is a direct reflection of it.

But that is another story, albeit certain a related story.

In the absence of any new threads, I suggest that you continue the discussion.

Zenster said...

Ivan Shatov: One of the oldest canards out there. What are the laws against murder if not legislating morality?

I refer you to my replies to mpresley and Discard.

But it is materialist reductionism of the worst sort to suppose that this is all that distinguishes the Negro from whites. High criminality, low impulse control and failure to civilize or be civilized are just a few of the other profound differences we must consider.

Which is why I made direct reference to "deferred gratification" being a yardstick of civilized behavior. It automatically implies a degree of future time orientation; something that is typically at a spectacular deficit in Blacks.

The Negro is an entirely different animal. Less intelligent, yes, but different in too many other ways to fully comprehend. Asians are also profoundly different. Possibly more intelligent, but without Europeans the Asian world would lack mercy and kindness which distinguish the European.

Agreed.

We need to start hating the non-Europeans. Hate is emancipating. Until and unless we avail ourselves of our capacity for hate we shall fail.

At least begin hating those who hate us. Otherwise, just pull the plug and disconnect from so many others that we are futilely and needlessly opening our veins for.

Interestingly, many of the homos(no insult intended) here seem to comprehend this better than most. I do not approve of this lifestyle, but if they are of our tribe I say live and let live - for God's sake just don't expect us to turn our culture and traditions inside out to accommodate you.

Agreed. Homosexuality is a genetic box canyon that, ordinarily, should not have any profound effect upon society.

Zenster and others who declare smugly that we are a majority and SA, 1790s Haiti and Rhodesia couldn't happen here - you'd better think again.

Nowhere do I assert that "SA, 1790s Haiti and Rhodesia couldn't happen here". It is happening here, it's just that we still have a fighting chance of reversing the fortunes of our enemies. Any such opportunity for that is lost in South Africa and Rhodesia.

The European is now less than 10% of world population. Our children will live in a world where darkies outnumber YTs. Trust me the darky hatred of one another is nothing compared to their hatred for their common enemy - YT.

Especially when so many DWLs are propelling that image as well. Fortunately, minority hatred of Whites is irrational in that our extinction would see huge portions of those populations die off almost instantly.

We just need to make this clear by withholding food exportation, foreign aid and disaster relief until those Second and Third World cultures discover a little respect for White civilization. Until then, they can suck hind tit.

Mr. Rational said...

I love it when someone brings up a pertinent point so I don't have to.

Great catch, Zenster.

Anonymous said...

"I am a young gay man from a liberal background and have lived around blacks far too long to regard them as equal or even conspecific to me. I want nothing to do with them -- period.

My experience with blacks is the reason why I'm no longer a liberal."


Leftist interest groups try to keep gays in constant turmoil over things like gay marriage (which most people gay & straight don't care about one way or the other) in order to keep gays on the PC, left-wing reservation. If it weren't gay marriage it would be some other halfway made up "outrage." They use these things to make sure gays don't wander away from the leftist sphere of control. "You're getting beaten and killed in your neighborhoods by blacks? Forget about it! The real threat is Midwest bible-thumpers who want you to turn straight and go to their church!"

The left is absolutely terrified of losing their grip on the various groups they've ghetto-ized and who they - with a fair amount of success - herd like livestock into various policy positions.

You can see their terror in the way they react to women, gays, or blacks who talk outside of their assigned group thoughts. Gays or blacks in particular who break from the group by expressing support for some non liberal-sanctioned philosophy or idea are brutally attacked.

To me, this is one of the most miserable aspects of contemporary life. The constant oppressive fog of PC doctrine that hangs over everything in society makes me sick. I'm not saying I want to scream racist attacks on the street but, as long as you're not engaging in actual violence against others, you should be free to think and say anything you want without getting fired from your job or investigated by the media/government that rules our lives.

There should more respect for a diversity of ideas in our society than there is for our current state of fake "diversity" where society puts some people on a pedestal and lies about who they are just because of their ethnicity. Of course, that would be a direct threat to the PC, cultural Marxist regime we live under so we can't have that.

Zenster said...

Mr. Rational: I love it when someone brings up a pertinent point so I don't have to.

I trust you are referring to the "Preconventional, Conventional and Postconventional" categories?

That is quite a useful framework to hang some major Race Realism meat on.

Anonymous said...

There should more respect for a diversity of ideas in our society than there is for our current state of fake "diversity" where society puts some people on a pedestal and lies about who they are just because of their ethnicity. Of course, that would be a direct threat to the PC, cultural Marxist regime we live under so we can't have that.

Respect for diversity of ideas? You used to get that at universities where it was once safe to voice unconventional ideas. No more is it safe to voice unconventional ideas at universities since that may lead to charges of racism, homophobia, misogyny, etc.

Anonymous said...

Coming soon to a neighborhood near you:

http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2012/02/mexicans-take-kidnappers-from-jail-beat.html

Blacks don't understand that vigilantism can return with a vengeance.

Zenster said...

Anonymous (February 11, 2012 7:11 PM): Blacks don't understand that vigilantism can return with a vengeance.

It is yet another point that so many Blacks share in common with Muslims:

№ 53: Poor Comprehension of Likely Repercussions

As if flying fully loaded passenger jet airliners into occupied skyscrapers or the routine rape and murder of innocent Whites will not incur any blowback from Western civilization. Go figure.

Ivan .M said...

The illegals we get in this country may have an even lower IQ than the average American Negro. I have read (although you can read a great many things on the internet) that the average IQ of an illegal in LA, Ca is 82.

Maybe. Maybe not.

There's a strong possibility that the mean Negro IQ in America is actually 78.

I can easily believe it, since the most cognitively abysmal elements of our Black population usually go underrepresented in IQ testing. For obvious reasons, this situation will not change anytime soon.

In a review of Richard Nisbett’s
Intelligence and How to Get It for The Open Psychology Journal, Philippe Rushton and Arthur Jensen wrote:

When Murray analyzed trends on the Woodcock-
Johnson test, he found that Black men born from 1925 to 1927 averaged 7.5 IQ points less than those born in later years. This was because Blacks born in the earliest years averaged 1.59 SDs [Standard Deviations] below Whites rather than only the more typical 1 SD. Black IQs increased from 78 to the more typical 85 in later standardizations.

Murray’s results suggested the hypothesis that the Black-White IQ gap in the US is actually 22 points, not 15, a possibility supported by data from World War II military samples. The Black-White difference on the Army General Classification Test (AGCT) for 1944-1945 inductions was 1.52 SDs. As Murray noted, the military testing during World War II was probably the most representative sampling of African American IQ ever undertaken. It was more inclusive than that conducted during World War I, which had excluded most of the 70% of African Americans who still lived in the rural South and were unschooled or very poorly schooled.


The above seems bereft of encouraging information, to put it mildly.

My anecdotal experience suggests significant differences in average intelligence between our Mestizo colonizers and the Congoid opposition. It doesn't appear to be as great a gap as that between either one and any of the high-IQ groups, but it is noticeable.

I think the illegals we get in this country are the bottom of the barrel from Mexico.

I won't disagree with you there. By exporting their unwanted rabble Mexico's White elite are effectively defecating all over us.

The militant brown Mexicans inhabiting our country carry something of a Europhobic attitude with them upon arrival, thanks to the very real criminal abuses they suffer at the hands of the fairer oligarchs down south. This doesn't factor in the subsequent anti-American agitprop spoon-fed to them by those loathsome invertebrates on the Cultural Marxist Left.

If they had to pay for their own children rather than it being a source of income for them, the birthrate would fall to probably a third of what it is now.

Their birthrates have reportedly stalled in the wake of the depression, but the reproductive defeat of America's founding stock is a fait accompli at this point.

Victory certainly remains within our grasp provided the contest isn't reduced to a breeding race.

Anonymous said...

Maybe their ignorance and poverty (can't afford television ) works in their favor. They simply don't have the bs to wade through to find out the only justice they'll see is what they dish out.

When people are able to get real news tptb don't fully control (internet) and people no longer watch banker owned television, things will get rougher.

of course they'll kill internet freedom to stop that from happening. I'm not sure they ll ever get people back to the networks again though.

Jay Santos said...

Anon at 2-11 5:38 (use a name, it's easy enough)

The left is absolutely terrified of losing their grip on the various groups they've ghetto-ized and who they - with a fair amount of success - herd like livestock into various policy positions.


They may be terrified, but there is no denying they have been wildly successful at this game. There's never been a gentle and happy consensus about all things within this country. But for most of the last century you could have traveled from Portland, Maine to San Diego, CA and you would have had a bit of commonality to reference at any time.

Way less today and the left is hell bent on increasing that with every passing day. It's a remarkably evil ideology that drives them. And the problem with much of modern black behavior in America derives from the left's influence on this culture.

Ivan .M said...

You can see their terror in the way they react to women, gays, or blacks who talk outside of their assigned group thoughts. Gays or blacks in particular who break from the group by expressing support for some non liberal-sanctioned philosophy or idea are brutally attacked.

I will attest to this!

Racial slurs have never been personally directed at me by any contemporary breed of White in America except the most self-hating ivory wretches from that eponymous tower.

White people in the United States can, if only simplistically, be divided into three segments: A self-hating minority, the subdued majority, and a minority in open rebellion.

When I frankly address "delicate matters" in the presence of my pale-faced countrymen, the reactions are rarely hostile. They might feel confused and disarmed at the fact that White guilt is not a particularly useful weapon against someone who isn't White, but they tend to be open-minded to some extent. These folks can be reasoned with.

Every once in a while, though, I'll encounter one of those hardcore suicidal Whites. What follows in these instances is stunned silence, then a sense of offense, an ensuing discussion in which my arguments prove manifestly superior, and finally, the name-calling.

If I despise any kind of person enough to watch them light up that last butt as the firing squad readies and aims, it's these creatures.

Ivan .M said...

Blacks don't understand that vigilantism can return with a vengeance.

YES! I derive immense satisfaction from their beating and roasting of the scum!

Life feels good after reading that story. Something glorious in it appeals to me.

It really gets my Amerindian going.

D J said...

Anon at 7:11. If only that had happened in Knoxville!

WS said...

Shatof:

...and then the names.

well put! It always winds up there. Funny, it always sounds like they're saying 'Heretic!'

I pick my battles, but in personal life don't usually go to great pains to hide my feelings about blacks.

I get 'why the hate?' or ' do you hate them?' from some friends. Its a loaded question of course and I think the word hate will no longer be addressed by myself in mixed company due to its squishy definition.

'Hate' gets used as a softer way of calling me a witch or a heretic .

I hate a few, pity most, and want nothing to do with any of them outside of infrequent, highly scripted and choreographed interaction.

Kinda like the Jim Crow laws that only whites have to follow.

Zenster said...

Ivan .M: By exporting their unwanted rabble Mexico's White elite are effectively defecating all over us.

In reality, they are keeping themselves in power. America is acting like a relief valve so that Mexico can shunt off a large portion of otherwise discontented and restive young males who could just as easily spawn a revolution resulting in the Mexican elite being strung up with piano wire.

This is yet one more reason to seal our Southern border, Mexico needs good government and that simply will not happen if things stay as they are.

Victory certainly remains within our grasp provided the contest isn't reduced to a breeding race.

With Whites still a majority in America, there is a slender chance of success if we can make this into a political race. Whites need to assemble pro-White leadership and make it work. It's that simple.

Zenster said...

Ivan .M: What follows in these instances is stunned silence, then a sense of offense, an ensuing discussion in which my arguments prove manifestly superior, and finally, the name-calling.

You can always tell when you've won an argument with a Liberal. The name-calling abruptly begins, usually accompanied by a bit of froth and spittle.

Kylie said...

"I will readily admit to proposing an 'Australian Model' for the exile of violent or habitual criminals."

If you mean violent or habitual black criminals, then you are, in effect, proposing a "back to Africa" program for blacks.

I'm not sure you realize how many blacks are habitual, if non-violent, criminals. One of the eye-openers I got while living in a low-income, mixed-race community is just how many blacks routinely break laws in non-violent ways. Driving without a license, illegal drug use, failure to appear on court, failure to pay court-ordered fines, failure to pay child support (!), shop-lifting, etc. are practiced even by "nice" blacks who are respected by the whites who know them. This, of course, pertains to my earlier points about blacks' low intelligence and high criminality.

"I’m curious as to what you and mpresley have to suggest, based on these observations."

I don't believe blacks will ever be able to be anything other than a drag on and degradation of civilization as whites have formulated it.

Any two-tier system of citizenship and justice in this country would be intolerable to most people, myself included. Nor do I foresee any dismantling of the horrible entitlement monolith so long as blacks are allowed to live among whites.

I'd like to see blacks where they belong--in Africa. So long as they coexist with whites, they will always trigger that weird, deviant altruism in some whites that the latter succumb to in alarming numbers (e.g., "Helpful White Ladies"). Certain whites are simply unable to refrain from being "helpful" to Negroes. I'd like to see those whites accompany blacks to Africa. Ideally, then, there'd be two separate nations, one of sane white people and the other of blacks and insanely helpful whites.

I have no idea of how to do this in a manner that's both successful and peaceable, since resistance on the part of both blacks and insanely helpful whites would be formidable. Not only would they have a lot to lose financially but, venal as they are, they would not willingly cede the appearance of occupying the moral high ground. But I also don't see any other alternative as sustainable in the long run.

Zenster said...

WS: Funny, it always sounds like they're saying 'Heretic!'

In reality, they are. While Liberals ostensibly ridicule religion but their blind faith in Magical Thinking™ makes them the blindest of believers imaginable.

Anything that contradicts accepted Liberal canon cannot be processed by their one-track (one trick?), minds and automatically is sorted into the "Heretic!" bin.

This is because there is no logical way to defend emotionally-based decisions much less advance them through reasoned argument. It's always a matter of "I just feel that it's right" and any contradiction of their emotions generates hurt feelings for them; even if there was no intention of hurting their feelings.

At that point you have, in their eyes, become a "big bully" and they start spewing invective because it's all that's left in their one-compartment problem solving toolbox.

It's very much like Blacks who play the race card. Thwart either of those last resorts and you can expect an explosive response.

Zenster said...

Kylie: If you mean violent or habitual black criminals, then you are, in effect, proposing a "back to Africa" program for blacks.

Thank you responding, Kylie. You are right that any policy of exile is similar to a "back to Africa" program. It is why I had the intellectual honesty to mention deportation and revocation of citizenship in parallel with exile.

I'm not sure you realize how many blacks are habitual, if non-violent, criminals.

I have enough experience living near Blacks to last a lifetime. Please trust me on this.

I don't believe blacks will ever be able to be anything other than a drag on and degradation of civilization as whites have formulated it.

It certainly appears that way. My stint here at SBPDL has only served to confirm any suspicions.

Any two-tier system of citizenship and justice in this country would be intolerable to most people, myself included.

I agree as well and that is why I've kept mentioning the Constitution.

I'd like to see blacks where they belong--in Africa. So long as they coexist with whites, they will always trigger that weird, deviant altruism in some whites that the latter succumb to in alarming numbers (e.g., "Helpful White Ladies"). Certain whites are simply unable to refrain from being "helpful" to Negroes.

"[D]eviant altruism" is very good. However, among DWLs, I see it as more a sort of competitive altruism as to who can open their veins the widest.

I'd like to see those whites accompany blacks to Africa.

It's certainly what they deserve.

I have no idea of how to do this in a manner that's both successful and peaceable, since resistance on the part of both blacks and insanely helpful whites would be formidable. Not only would they have a lot to lose financially but, venal as they are, they would not willingly cede the appearance of occupying the moral high ground. But I also don't see any other alternative as sustainable in the long run. [emphasis added]

You have identified many of the central issues in this last paragraph. Getting from where we currently are to Point B is going to take some serious thought. I look forward to working with you towards the goal of defining and then creating strong memes that can convey this admittedly thorny message to Those Who Can See.

Anonymous said...

thank you for the exceptional analysis, Zen!

Discard said...

Zenster at 2:00 PM, Feb 12: If you're looking for strong memes, I suggest anything that points out the unwillingness of DWLs to live up to the standards they impose on others. In other words, their self-segregation, their greed, their forcing working class Whites to pay the costs of the multi-cult while enjoying the benefits themselves. Hypocrisy has always been the liberals' weak point. Stick it in and twist.

Ivan .M said...

America is acting like a relief valve so that Mexico can shunt off a large portion of otherwise discontented and restive young males who could just as easily spawn a revolution resulting in the Mexican elite being strung up with piano wire.

I frequently point this out to illegal alien provocateurs and attach the requisite charges of cowardice to my point.

They are so vocal and aggressive when demonstrating against American sovereignty in our republic, under the protection of the Bill of Rights, subsidized by taxpayers and emboldened by Cultural Marxists.

Might not their umbrage be redirected toward a government more worthy of it?

This is yet one more reason to seal our Southern border, Mexico needs good government and that simply will not happen if things stay as they are.

Something just occurred to me.

What if, in the wake of the likely Mexican rebellion following our border closure and mass deportations, elite Whites in Mexico fear for the safety of themselves and their families enough to flee . . . to the United States.

That'd be a hoot.

Ivan .M said...

I revere our United States Constitution and common law traditions as much as any real American.

Having said that, I am quite willing to violate our republic's founding document if lawful remedies for the consequences of slavery become unattainable.

Even though the Constitution is perhaps the most artful plan of government yet devised, it was not ratified by God. It was ratified by imperfect, fallible men.

More important, perhaps, is the reality that our constitution is now an instrument of attack against White Americans and has been since the conclusion of the Civil War. The Reconstruction Amendments are, arguably, devoid of moral legitimacy. Mass disenfranchisement of White Southerners, federal occupation, carpetbaggery, and illiterate Negro legislatures seem, as conditions under which ratification took place, dubious, to say the least.

As a result of these shenanigans, Blacks were eventually afforded a means of facilitating their degeneracy and bellicose behavior. The Constitution has no "Bill of Responsibilities" because it was written specifically for Whites, who are intellectually capable of understanding that rights come with responsibilities.

When regarded as a vehicle for perpetuation of the locust-like existence of Blacks, the Constitution stands as remarkably diabolical. It secures the fealty of patriots to destructive ideas.

So, yes, I will support suspension of civil rights if need be. The American nation exists independently of the Constitution, not the other way around.

When it comes to Blacks, the simple fact of the matter is that unwavering adherence to the Constitution may guarantee the ultimate destruction of the Constitution.

Discard said...

Ivan M: I believe that it was Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr who said, "The Constitution is not a suicide pact". He also is noted for saying, with respect to sterilization for eugenic purposes, "Three generations of imbeciles are enough". Cool guy.

Discard said...

Ivan M: Rich Mexicans have already made provisions for fleeing to the U.S. They come here legally just like Europeans would, buy houses, and have their anchor babies. There are walled suburbs of them around Phoenix and San Diego. They run their businesses in Mexico and keep their families here, coming and going as the danger rises and falls. As I understand, Phoenix has consequently become the kidnapping capital of the U.S. Maybe they should only hire White gardeners and maids, so that the Mexican kidnappers would look out of place when they came by.

Chinese pull the same trick but I think they do it to facilitate their fleecing of America, not in fear of criminal gangs in their homeland.

Ivan .M said...

Rich Mexicans have already made provisions for fleeing to the U.S. . . . They run their businesses in Mexico and keep their families here, coming and going as the danger rises and falls.

It would seem those depictions of wealthy Mexicans in telenovelas merit more credence than I previously gave them.

As I understand, Phoenix has consequently become the kidnapping capital of the U.S.

An old classmate of mine from high school suggested that I travel to Phoenix and visit him.

I told him he was nuts.

Zenster said...

Anonymous (February 12, 2012 8:37 PM): thank you for the exceptional analysis, Zen!

Thank you, the pleasure is all mine and I really appreciate your support.

WilliamWallace said...

@AmericanGoy: You're exactly right. One thing that will make the gang-pussies pause though is if you break someone's arm. That always gets a reaction and the broken-arm guy is definitely out of the fight. Now it's just a matter of who wants their arm broken next. Not too many takers for that one. Usually two broken-arm guys makes everyone else not want to play anymore. Too bad. By the time you break two guys arms, you're probably just getting warmed up.

WilliamWallace said...

Funny how in modern, enlightened America, "white only" neighborhoods are illegal, but "black only" neighborhoods are ubiquitous and growing.