Monday, February 20, 2012

What Do You See on the Horizon?

There are two views for the future, two paths this world can take: Black-Run America (BRA) continues, unabated, with massive third world immigration helping put the nail in the coffin of the historic American majority population.

County after county in America collapses (like Jefferson County, Alabama, which the New York Times covers here and we cover here, revealing a much different why Birmingham is now a shell of its former self) and tyrannical law after oppressive law are implemented to keep white flight from removing the last vestiges of a tax-base from a city.

Or, BRA ends.

The most oppressive force in world history - one that keeps an adult discussion on racial differences in crime, achievement, and why some cities collapse and others thrive, from occurring - falters, cracking apart at some unforeseen fault line. There exist plenty of scenarios which could provide the spark for this to transpire, but it's in the early stages of the confusion where salvation rests.

Those are the two choices left for America. There is no alternative. There is no compromise. If BRA survives in America, the managerial-elite of this ideology will work to ensure that no nation escapes its reach. Its pernicious influence. 

Like the enemy in Ender's Game, if BRA falters in America, it collapses worldwide.

We are so close to the collapse of Detroit - no, not the Big Three car companies, which have all been on the precipice of bankruptcy only to regroup, reorganize, restructure, innovate, and recover - but the actual city, which Black people have lorded over since the Great Revolution of 1967.

The Great Revolution of 1967 -- that's what the real Leftist Agitators for Genocide (LAG) call the Black Riot of 1967, still the worst riot in American history -- is documented in Detroit: I Do Mind Dying as an event that was the harbinger of healthy change from the insidious white rule that had actually built the city. This book shows the true evil that Disingenuous White Liberals (DWLs) - judging by their mating habits - even shy away from.

Now, in 2012, Actual Black-Run America (ABRA) Detroit prepares to die.

The lesson of what happened in Detroit post -1967 must be told, for it must not happen to another American city (or county) again. It must be documented, it must be debated, and it must be confronted.

Luckily for those pushing the BRA-agenda, they have no actual opposition. The managerial-elite of BRA are unopposed, with the looming take-over of Detroit via financial martial law by the state of Michigan not even a cause for consternation.

This will be repeated again in cities like Baltimore, St. Louis, Newark, Atlanta, Memphis, and others if BRA limps along until we as a nation no longer imagine 2050, but see A.D 2050 with our own eyes.

Personally, I believe millions of people across this nation are just waiting for an individual of some note to say, "You know what, Black people ruined Detroit."

The result of this statement would be a Chernobyl-style meltdown by the media, with this individual's comments immediately deemed outside the realm of acceptable discourse and an untold number of editorials in dying newspapers and on Web sites - both left and right - attacking the morality of this statement, with writers spilling buckets of bilge claiming how its that very line of thought that somehow keeps Black people from abiding by the law, their children from going to school and learning, and Black people from being able to run a business.

Worse, it's this type of language that keeps Black people dependent on entitlements programs and somehow enables their No. 2 pencils from filling in the proper bubble on a scan-tron or test during an aptitude exam like the SAT, ACT, GMAT, GRE, MCAT, LSAT, or military exam.

Black people did ruin Detroit, courtesy of the types of LAGs who praised the actions of Black rioters in Detroit: I Do Mind Dying by Dan and Sur Georgakas. Because the state failed to open fire on the Black insurrection of 1967 - putting it down before it could put down roots - we now live in a world where merely noticing Black pathologies is grounds for immediate termination.

We now see the type of LAG thinking in Iowa, a state attacked constantly for its unforgivable whiteness (though the same never happens in Detroit, where its debilitating Blackness is the reason why a nine-month old is dead today). It is a lawsuit that showcases what the future holds for all white people if BRA continues:
IOWA CITY, Iowa– A judge will soon decide whether to grant thousands of black employees and job applicants monetary damages for hiring practices throughout Iowa’s state government they say have disadvantaged them for decades.

Experts say the case is the largest class-action lawsuit of its kind against an entire state government’s civil service system.
The plaintiffs, up to 6,000 African-Americans passed over for state jobs and promotions dating back to 2003, do not say they faced overt racism or discriminatory hiring tests in Iowa, a state that is 91 percent white. Instead, their lawyers argue that managers subconsciously favored whites, leaving blacks at a disadvantage in decisions over who got interviewed, hired and promoted.
The case represents a growing front of discrimination litigation.
Anthony Greenwald, an expert on implicit bias who testified on behalf of the plaintiffs, said the decision would be one of the first of its kind because similar cases against corporations have usually been dismissed or settled before trial.
“The decision will be important. It will be certainly looked at outside of Iowa,” he said.
Scholars and employment lawyers have shown a growing interest in implicit bias in the last several years, after Greenwald and other scientists developed the Implicit Association Test to test racial stereotypes.
Their research found an inherent preference for whites over blacks — in up to 80 percent of test-takers and among many people who do not consider themselves racist.
The theory hit a legal obstacle last year when the U.S. Supreme Court disqualified a class-action lawsuit against Wal-Mart’s pay and promotion practices for women. The court found the class was too broad and failed to challenge a specific hiring practice as discriminatory.
Lawyers defending Iowa have cited that decision in asking the judge to dismiss this case. But the high court’s decision did not specifically reject the theory of implicit bias, and dissenting Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg wrote that such claims can be allowed.
Class attorney Thomas Newkirk said the science and other evidence that shows disadvantaged groups such as blacks face employment discrimination in subtle ways “is becoming overwhelming.”
“Clearly, the problem is not in Iowa alone, but we believe Iowa is the exactly the right place to ask society to take control of this important issue fairly for all races, and to seek a better future for all as a result,” he said.
What. The. Hell.

Seriously.

Only in a nation governed by BRA could a lawsuit like this even be heard in a courtroom. How many of these 6,000 Black applicants are related to one of Iowa's 2.9 Black population, who represent a whopping 24 percent of the states prison population?:

Black prison population in Iowa could grow--now 2% of population and 24 % of prisoners

Black prison population in Iowa could grow
By MIKE GLOVER | Associated Press Writer
May 14, 2009
Chicago Tribune
DES MOINES, Iowa - Blacks continue to be incarcerated in Iowa prisons at a number far out of proporation to their overall population in the state, and that disparity is expected to grow over the next 10 years, state prison officials were told Wednesday.
The state began to study the racial breakdown of prison inmates under former Gov. Tom Vilsack, and that initial study found that 24 percent of the state's prison beds are occupied by blacks who make up roughly 2 percent of the population.
The Iowa Board of Corrections was told that those numbers remain unchanged as of last year but are expected to grow.
"The projections are that the percent of African-Americans in prison will slightly increase over the next 10 years," said Lettie Prell, research director for the Iowa Department of Corrections. She said tougher penalties for crimes like robbery will likely lead to the increase.
Prell also said there is a disparity in sentencing practices when sentences are measured by race.
She said 48.3 percent of blacks convicted of serious drug charges receive prison time, compared to 36.5 percent of whites. That same disparity is seen throughout the range of felony drug cases.
Looking at the correctional population as a whole, just over 20 percent of whites in the corrections system are in prison or confined in community facilities, while nearly 40 percent of blacks in the corrections system are in prison or confined in community facilities.
"On the whole, incarceration rates for African-Americans is higher than for whites for the various types of crimes," Prell said.
Prell said studies have shown a broad array of social and economic forces account for the disparity in prison population.
"They go way beyond the scope of corrections itself," she said.
Prell said corrections officials have launched pilot projects in Waterloo and Des Moines that begin before an inmate is released and are designed to closely supervise inmates and offer a variety of counseling programs. Early results are encouraging, though a tight state budget has reduced available funding for those efforts, she said.
"We're doing what we can to grow those initiatives," Prell said.
Steve Sailer noted that Iowa's Black people are perhaps the nations worst Black population. You don't have to convince us of that, with the 2010 Beat Whitey Night event at the Iowa State Fair still fresh in our memories.

If not Iowa, a similar lawsuit will be filed in Alabama. Perhaps North Dakota. Maybe North Carolina. It could be Colorado.

And - if the judicial system of BRA has its way - those Black people who whites subconsciously discriminated against will see a judge rule in their favor.

So we come to the most important part of the lesson, an invaluable quotation from the underrated 1999 movie Ride With the Devil. One of the remaining Missouri guerrilla-fighters is having a discussion with a citizen of that state - which was under Union occupation at the time - whose loyalties are with the rebelling South:
Mr. Evans: You ever been to Lawrence KS young man? 
Jack Bull Chiles: [scoffs] No, I reckon not Mr. Evans. I don't believe I'd be too welcome in Lawrence. 
Mr. Evans: I didn't think so. Before this war began, my business took me there often. As I saw those northerners build that town, I witnessed the seeds of our destruction being sown. 
Jack Bull Chiles: The foundin' of that town was truly the beginnin' of the Yankee invasion.
Mr. Evans: I'm not speakin' of numbers, nor even abolitionist trouble makin'. It was the schoolhouse. Before they built their church, even, they built that schoolhouse. And they let in every tailor's son... and every farmer's daughter in that country. 
Jack Bull Chiles: Spellin' won't help you hold a plow any firmer. Or a gun either. 
Mr. Evans: No, it won't Mr. Chiles. But my point is merely that they rounded every pup up into that schoolhouse because they fancied that everyone should think and talk the same free-thinkin' way they do with no regard to station, custom, propriety. And that is why they will win. Because they believe everyone should live and think just like them. And we shall lose because we don't care one way or another how they live. We just worry about ourselves. 
Jack Bull Chiles: Are you sayin', sir, that we fight for nothin'? 
Mr. Evans: Far from it, Mr. Chiles. You fight for everything that we ever had, as did my son. It's just that... we don't have it anymore. 
"We just worry about ourselves..."

What happened if we didn't? What happened if people didn't slink off to Idaho or Montana to watch the world die, or tolerate paying $4.00/a gallon for gas so they can escape to a Whitopia and raise a family, away from the unsafe inner-cities where the Black Undertow rules uncontested?

This is what we at SBPDL mean by the simple term "Exist"... this is why the impending release of the Fair Campaign's first salvo is so important. We aim to misbehave in a perfectly legal manner.

There are only two futures for this nation: the uncivil application of "co-exist" nationwide (as we see in Iowa, the courts will push this agenda) or the ability to "Exist."

That's all we see on the horizon.

117 comments:

Ivan Shatov said...

God bless you, Paul. You're fighting the good fight. But the demographic die is cast. There will be no reprieve from the darkness and the West will continue to descend into the black abyss.

"When poor people with two-digit IQ’s are given the right to immigrate and vote on politicians who then decide how to tax the greater property and income of those with three-digit IQ’s, whom they outnumber, democracy becomes a farce of two wolves voting themselves a lamb for dinner. When those differences are largely genetic and intractable, and those with less wealth have higher birthrates, we have a recipe for a very unstable society, on its way to the logical progression of multiculturalism: from the First World to crony-corrupt Mexico, from Mexico to racial-socialist Venezuela, from Venezuela to the affirmative-action-state (and world rape capital) of South Africa, from South Africa to the lawless murders, rapes, stealing and mass inflation of Zimbabwe, and from Zimbabwe to the permanent abyss of Haiti." SWB

Anonymous said...

I pray our Nation wakes up. I fear it is too late. I am raising my two young sons to see the truth so they can rebuild.
I am preparing for the collapse and coming conflict.

Jay Santos said...

What do you see on the horizon?

I don't want to see it, but I do. For my country, an irreversible dystopian landscape. The least of the talent from the third world will materialize within these borders. The destructive negro influence on the culture will accelerate. The ruling political class and their allies in government unions will only sharpen their rapacious control over the population and feed like ticks on anyone continuing to work.

The culture will relentlessly regress to the lowest common denominator. Which will be perfectly tailored for the negroes. Eventually a brighter culture, maybe the Chinese, or a more aggressive culture, Islam, will seize control of the real estate and something else will grow here.

By that point, the population will know nothing of its history but the name Martin Luther King.

Anonymous said...

I would love for you to do a story about what you would do about the black folks of america.

MuayTyson said...

Good article Paul,

I choose to leave not sure it is even possible to fight back. I don't speak for all expats but please allow me to tell a little story that happened a few years ago.

My wife and I were in Ha-long Bay VietNam and we met an American who moved to Australia many years ago.

Before I go let explain it was a leisurely ride on a Chinese style junk. I'm White and my wife is Korean. He is an elderly White man with an Asian wife, I suspect she is Thai or Philippino. We just struck up a conversation out of the blue.

Okay, back to the story and I'll make it short. He had left America after returning from a stint in the military. If memory serves me correct he was either a Korean or Vietnam vet. Anyway he witnessed the Detroit Riots he spoke of more than one riot. He explained when nothing was done and few were punished he left for Australia.

This man was a patriot he missed America he spoke of the America of the past very fondly. He was not proud of what America became.

This was a few years ago and I could not fully see as much as I do now. I was a little uncomfortable about his candor that, "The Niggers ruin all they touch." In his eyes they got away with it and this great nation turned it's back.

If I knew then what I know now I would ask more question. I would be more curious as to how he lived and what he saw to make such a drastic life decision.

Many of us ex-patriots although Liberal in out own way we can see.

Anonymous said...

Iowas too white for MSNBC/ Andrea Mitchell..eh?

Anonymous said...

Not to hijack this thread, but have you heard about Jenny Hyun? She's some Korean-American pop singer who made some extreme yet largely accurate statements about blacks on Twitter yesterday. She pointed out that blacks are responsible for most crime and depravity in the world; that they have disgusting and savage cultures; and that they are a drain on the world's economic resources. She then began talking about "eradication", possibly of all blacks, which is when she went too far.

At first she seemed to stand behind her comments, but then (get this!) she was checked into a psych ward for paranoid schizophrenia.

I'm waiting with bated breath for the day that some public figure says the truth about black behavior and culture and doesn't back down (or get institutionalized)...this isn't it, but it's certainly a start.

Anonymous said...

What do I see?

"If You Build it They Will Come"

I'm not talking baseball fields and father and son pitch and catches, I'm talking Chicago style violent ghettos courtesy of section 8 voucher portability.

And a DWL population who thinks every lifelong gang-banger who descends upon previously Lilly white and perfectly safe Iowa is here only for a "better life."

It's "My Fair Lady" run a muck, except Eliza Doolittle never fired a Glock at anybody or robbed or beat them simply because they were white as is happening here in Iowa.

Of course these same DWL's will SCREAM from the rooftops that anyone even noticing -let alone criticizing - that this is going on is "Racist" but, fortunately, the ranks of "Those Who Can See" is growing (albeit quietly) every day. To wit:

http://broadwaycrimereport.wordpress.com/

As Unamused so frequently points out: where blacks go so does crime, violence and sexual assaults on white women, In Iowa, noticing this is a greater offense than the crimes themselves.

The first time a white kills a black in Iowa in self-defense will not only be the FIRST time, it will be long overdue and, of course decried as a "racist" action.

Anonymous said...

"She said 48.3 percent of blacks convicted of serious drug charges receive prison time, compared to 36.5 percent of whites. That same disparity is seen throughout the range of felony drug cases."

Prior offenses I assume?

Thrasymachus said...

I worked as a phone psychic for one day- true story- and from a very limited sample of about five people, the future of almost anyone is quite obvious, except to themselves.

Being an American, of the most desultory and begrudging sort granted, the American future is hard to predict. I will say the big mistake most people make is to assume BRA is primarily a financial arrangement, and when the government goes broke it will end. But BRA is primarily a legal arrangement, and a social and cultural arrangement with a legal basis. For BRA to collapse, the *entire legal system* would have to collapse. There's nothing new or different about this lawsuit. It is a bedrock assumption that low representation of blacks is prima facie proof of discrimination, and any convenient theory can be offered as proof, because no proof is really necessary beyond the assertion.

The initial attack on BRA, if it ever comes, will come from Asia. It's the only place not in the grip of racial idiocy. But the decline of America is to their advantage, so they are happy to see us die, and aren't eager to interfere with the process. Only if they see the end of BRA as necessary to protect their investments will they intervene.

Agnes Day said...

BRA will end, only to be replaced by MRA - Mexican (Over)Run America. The America we knew and loved is already dead. The people who could not only build an atomic bomb in 4 years but invented it, and had the courage to use it against people of another race to end a war, are long gone. We, the remnant, are not them.

In this world, James T. Kirk never grows up in Iowa - or anywhere else.

Anonymous said...

What do I see on the horizon?

A 2nd Obama term, for starters.

I see my own front door getting kicked down because I post comments on websites such as this.

I see whites, barely caring, never speaking up, always running, running. Then, when there's nowhere left to run .... well, who thinks that far ahead? A few crazy gun nuts. "Preppers". Probably all wicked white supremacists, anyway.

I see a lot of people being labeled 'terrorists' in the future. (In the (near) future, Racism = Terrorism.) I see white terrorists simply disappearing.

I see white folks with staring down at little glowing gadgets, not caring if they live or die.


Somebody please tell me my eyes decieve me!

eh said...

Steve Sailer noted that Iowa's Black people are perhaps the nations worst Black population.

So I guess part of the thinking -- as far as it goes -- behind the lawsuit is that the Whites in Iowa are perhaps the worst in the nation. Although you couldn't tell that by watching Radar O'Reilly on MASH.

Anonymous said...

"We just worry about ourselves..."

A conservative/libertarian creed that is unfortunately a losing proposition when there is an enemy out there so determined to destroy you. You can run to your white suburbs, Wyoming, New Hampshire, etc., but you can't hide. They will come for you eventually.

This reactionary approach of running away and merely trying to slow the advance of leftism and its savagery has been tried for over a century and has failed. It's time for a radical right.

Anonymous said...

Only one word can describe it: Orwellian.

I don't think it is a coincidence that this is happening in Iowa, either. Iowa, as this article notes, is "too white" for modern BRA.

Clearly, BRA is going for a killing blow and striking at the very Heart of Whiteness.

BTW, the judge is Robert Blink, whose most famous case was as a prosecuter in the retrial and conviction of Robert Anthony Williams, a "youth" who kidnapped, raped and murdered a 10 year old white girl.

In this interview he talks a bit about the case at the five minute mark: http://www.kcci.com/video/26625074/detail.html

He won a great victory by helping put that monster behind bars all those years ago. Hopefully, he still remains a White Knight.

Anonymous said...

The only way BRA will end is if the social environment becomes so oppressive, and so dysfunctional, that it cannot be ignored any longer, and in fact begins to critically affect the existential lives of whites.

To think we are there yet is naive. Most whites have only a nascent awareness of the situation, and given their penchant for television, sports, beer, and other forms of entertainment, it is a big question as to whether and when they will come around.

The "anything but Obama" electoral meme is counterproductive. Voting for any of the Republicans will simply mask the problem. The only solution (if it even be a solution) is for the situation to become increasingly worse, increasingly faster. Only then will the "conscious shock" necessary for enlightenment happen.

That is why I will likely vote for Obama. We need at least another 4 years of Negro-liberal totalitarianism against whites, and general civil mismanagement before a critical mass is reached. Romney, et al, will just slow, but not ameliorate the situation.

Midwestern said...

From Sailer:

http://www.vdare.com/articles/bad-schools-immigration-and-the-great-middle-class-massacre

"Bad schools impose indirect—but huge—costs on millions of middle-class families. In their desperate rush to save their children from failing schools, families are literally spending themselves into bankruptcy."

This is true for many middle-class whites I now. So, one way to fight back, as much as it might hurt, is to homeschool your children. Avoid the schools completely, public and private. Pull them out for good. YOU get to decide what they learn and when. There are so many resources out there that are free. When I hear about $16,000 per year spending on each child in some states, I cannot imagine spending that much money. It costs me around $1,000 per year for all of my kids combined, sometimes less.

When my young son reaches working age, he is going to apprentice with a friend of mine who wants to pass along an important trade. My son is very good in mathematics and technology, but I believe that learning a trade, and retro-fitting will be a good skill to have in the future. I am teaching my daughters life skills, including sewing, knitting, growing food, cooking, preservation and other home crafts so that they can nurture the next generation. All of my kids are under 15 and have jobs for spending money and savings. They love to work.

I homeschool them, and I know they will do just fine. They are testing at grade level or slightly above, they read novels, and I have taught them to work and think independently. We have forfeited my corporate salary in order to do this, but we have learned how to live within our means.My husband is our provider, and he finds great satisfaction in this role. We have grown into a traditional family, and are teaching our children old American history and personal responsibility. We pay lower taxes because we live on one income. We drive older cars, live in a house we can afford, and save as much as we can. We pay cash for most things.It is not all exceptional, but our family value system is intact.

We need to get a grip on our own personal family economies, and teach our children important life skills. We are facing a very different future, and we must be prepared for it. Homeschooling and family are a huge part of this. My kids have never ask me for designer jeans or cell phones, have not been bullied at school, they love their studies, and are eager to become adults.

It is hard, but it is a good way to drop out and focus on the important things and invest in your children's future. I used to say that homeschooling was not for everyone, but I have changed my mind over the years. Any homeschooling is better than the pack of lies being taught in schools these days.

Dan said...

That law suit is an act of war.

The Common law was never intended for this.

ScottB said...

Paul, I think you answered your own question about the billboard. Short, simple...and a nuclear bomb.


"Black people ruined Detroit."

A few strategic billboards with those four words may be exactly what we've been looking for to ignite the spark.

Anonymous said...

PK see Derbyshire's speech at the CPAC group it is his hypothesis that the "elite" will do a 180 turnabout on BRA.

Anonymous said...

This country is ruled by blacks through the perfidious courts' lawyers in black robes.

Anonymous said...

So what happens after BRA? We've got 34 million Black people in the USA. What do you do with those 34 million?

Sheila said...

I see the same dystopian future others have predicted. I'd like to think there's hope; I'd like to believe, as my husband does, that there are too many armed and angry Whites to let everything continue to decay . . but in all honesty, I can't agree.

Midwestern - excellent comment. My family is one of those that is bankrupting itself in private school fees. For various reasons, that I don't want to go into here, we chose not to homeschool. However, for those who have the fortitude to do so, homeschooling is the only way to go. Those who could homeschool or have the funds to pay a relatively superior private school but instead allow their children to remain in public school are guilty of de facto child abuse.

Anonymous said...

I'll come back later to answer the question posed by this post more thoughtfully, but in the meantime go over to Unamusement Park, and check out the latest thread, which features a classic intellectual hammering of a DWL by a veritable mob of witty, well-spoken realists.

It'll give you some hope.

Also be sure to follow the links near the end of the comments thread to the forum thread at the Seattle Stranger, where the beat-down continues. The realist commenter BPWP makes some very cogent and well-phrased remarks (you have to scroll up a bit from the bottom of the page, where the link lands you), which you may want to copy for your own use as talking points.

Well done!

Caiden said...

Personally, I don't think we can 'save' the country. The thing is, even here where we see the problems, many of us are willing to argue over smaller details - 'neo-cons', Those Who Shall Not Be Named, religion against atheism.

Basically we're end up falling apart. Blacks are unable to maintain a civilization. Liberals don't want to, they are better at belittling their opponents then being able to actually govern a city, state, or nation.

The liberals control the media and entertain industry, so ours news and now our myths are filled with BRA garbage such as black inventions or blacks who were invaluble to white heroes, such as Robin Hood's black best friend.

And the vast majority of whites are to afraid to see the truth, some literally unable to think clearly, on racial issues.

So it's really just a matter of surviving the downfall. When Rome dissolved not all the people died. Even without the Roman government or army there were people who were living, farming, and having families in the areas that Rome used to exist in.

I'm thinking it will be a generational thing. After the fall blacks will act like blacks, attacking anyone they can. The liberal whites will not see the problem, and will die easily. The smart whites will move away as best the can. The best thing is blacks are not smart enough to move without help. Look at Kartina and how many blacks didn't have the ability to get out.

Yes, there will be millions of stupid blacks willing to rape and kill whites now that the police forces have collapsed, but most won't be able to travel far from their areas.

Really, I have little hope at this point of the US maintaining it's first world status. There are enough liberals and blacks to insure that's impossible. But people will survive, and white will survive. The smart ones will do what whites have always done, rebuild, learn, thrive. The dumb ones will get killed by the blacks or starve. And eventually our descendants can rebuild what was ruined, and with luck they'll be taught what went wrong so they don't make the same mistakes.

Anonymous said...

WHY ARE WE FEEDING BLACKS IN AFRICA?
AND WHY DOES NY TIMES TWIST 'BLACK FACT'??

FOUND THIS AT CRIMES OF THE TIMES BLOG........

200 Elephants Slaughtered In Park, And The NYT Like A Stubborn Child Stomps Its Feet, Covers Its Ears And Mutters "

What's interesting here is that these scenes of poached wildlife - tragic images of these magnificent beasts whose numbers are dwindling as their two-legged brethren are kept plump with the Western food aid that enables them to have the highest birth rates on the planet - are identical to the ones we saw in Africa Addio, which I posted about last w..

Caiden said...

To the Anon who asked "what about the 34 million black people", well, if anything BRA shows they are unable to take care of themselves. Most will die off with EBT cards. I'm not joking, most have NO idea how to take care of themselves.

A supermarket has about a week or twos worth of food in it, they get trucks in every day to keep shelves stocked. When the government crashes down, no more deliveries. Alot of people will probably be stocking up before the fall, but in the end people will go Katrina or LA riot and try to get as much food as they can get. And really, there won't be that much for in the cities.

Again, look at Katrina, without outside help the blacks were UNABLE to get out or secure food - their stupidity was going to kill them if the army hadn't stepped in.

Keep in mind how insane, how criminal, the average black is. With no cops around, not only will they kill the white liberals who come around trying to start drum circles, they'll kill each other. How many blacks will think about buring bodies? How many Haities go to the bathroom in the streets now, two years after their disaster, two years without the ability to rebuild Haiti will the Asians in Japan are far better off. The negros who haven't kill each other will die of disease or starvation.

Everntaully, when they move out of the negro areas trying to catch and kill anything they can like the infected from 28 Days Later, they'll come across the smart whites who have guns and know how to use them. So when the blacks try a 'beat whitey' on white survivalists who have no white guild and aren't prepared to be raped or killed by the savages... well, c'mon, it's over for the blacks.

Very few blacks will be able to be productive after a fall. Everything from Katrina, the LA Riots, and housing projects show that the vast majority of blacks are destructive, or at the worst worthless. Without whites to feed them, it's game over for blacks, and after a fall the surviving whites will be the ones who can and will defend themselves from blacks.


I'd say a few months after the fall, there will not be a single liberal left in the US. Their will either be killed by the blacks, or had survived rapes, beatings, or witnessed enough black savagery to have no more illusions.

The bright side is, I think whites will survive, not all of course, the fall of the US will be a horrible event. But I have long term hope for whites. Whites survived wars, disasters, and diseases throught history and we were able to put a man on the moon and a probe on Mars. Blacks could only make one story mud huts on thier own.

Whites will survive, blacks will be like housepets and will not survive without aid.

As far as China, well, their economy is tied in with the West. When we fall they'll fall, and they'll be no point in invading at that point. Plus China doesn't have much of a navy. I'd think Russia or India will have more to worry about the chinese then the US will.

Midwestern said...

Sheila said:
Midwestern - excellent comment. My family is one of those that is bankrupting itself in private school fees. For various reasons, that I don't want to go into here, we chose not to homeschool.

Sheila, I completely understand. You will be strapped with college tuition and loans next. How can any family afford this? Homeschooling is a monumental task, and requires the full-time dedication of one parent. We "winged" it for many years, and magically, everything fell into place. The kids are older now, but still love learning. They understand that education is something that is a lifelong process, not just a 12 year period.

We push independent study and work outside the home for character building, and this also teaches personal accountability.I don't stand over them while they sit in little desks all day, they are working while I am working, sometimes I hardly see them until lunch time.

So it can be done, not in a traditional school setting, but there is great flexibility in home education.My 15 year old is getting ready to take the GED, and then who knows what is next for her.

Kids in school are kept from the adult world for far too long. All schools stunt their growth and delay their independence. I don't have to waste time lecturing and helping them "unlearn" the things that were taught by some liberal nutjob teacher. When I get a liberal question in a text or workbook, I am able to deconstruct it immediately and push their thinking in a more conservative direction.

I think kids should be adults in training once they are able to talk. Good luck to you and your family.

Zenster said...

Another excellent article, Paul.

… we now live in a world where merely noticing Black pathologies is grounds for immediate termination.

A doctor who neglected or refused to diagnose pathologies so obvious as the numerous ones presented by Blacks could successfully be sued for egregious malpractice.

Yet, people of any color, even Blacks themselves, cannot take open notice of TNB.

The principal is Dr. Deirdre Sharkey. According to the school's website, Sharkey was a microbiologist before becoming an administrator. She has a background in science and education.

Quanell X, Houston's leader of the New Black Panthers, said Ms. Sharkey is also African-American, making the incident more insulting in his view.

"No matter what the principal's race is, there should be a zero tolerance policy for the N-word coming out of a teacher's mouth toward another administrator or a child," said Quanell X.
[emphasis added]

As to the Iowa case:

Instead, their lawyers argue that managers subconsciously favored whites, leaving blacks at a disadvantage in decisions over who got interviewed, hired and promoted.

This is the beginnings of THOUGHT CRIME. It is also a signal that someone just being White is sufficient cause for legal action by minorities.

Does anyone else here at SBPDL see this as so-called "Reverse Profiling"? Of course, it is just ordinary Racial Profiling but with the added piquance of Orwellian Crimethink.

It should come as no surprise that Iowa trails only Delaware and Minnesota for over-representation by Blacks in their respective prison populations.

State ― BPP* ― BPPP** ― Over-representation

Delaware ― 5% ― 63% ― 12.6X
Minnesota ― 3% ― 37% ― 12.3X
Iowa ― 2% ― 24% ― 12.0X

* Black Percentage of Population
** Black Percentage of Prison Population

With all of a 5% difference in over-representation, Iowa clearly is neck and neck with first place Minnesota. Small wonder how Blacks in that state must resort to such an insubstantial, unverifiable and subjective explanation as subconscious bias to rationalize away TNB when the real reason is so glaringly obvious.

There are only two futures for this nation: the uncivil application of "co-exist" nationwide (as we see in Iowa, the courts will push this agenda) or the ability to "Exist."

People will learn soon enough how all this "Coexist" nonsense is just suicidal balderdash. Islam is teaching that lesson with a vengeance. The "UnFair Campaign" is a close second for awakening even the most somnolent among Those Who Can See.

Yet one more home run, Paul!

Anonymous said...

Bernie Goldberg was on The O'Reilly Factor last night and was talking about the poor doing their fair share. Obama talks about everyone doing their fair share all the time, but we know he doesn't mean everyone. Goldberg was talking about poor women having illegitimate children and all the problems this creates. O'Reilly looked a bit uncomfortable, even though Goldberg wasn't talking in a controversial way at all. I can just imagine the hate mail he's getting.

Anonymous said...

Stop censoring my comments.

Alexandra said...

One reason for the disparity between black and white prisoners...whites are at least smart enough to cover up their crimes, blacks are stupid enough to post it on social networking sites.

I can also imagine what would happen if someone dealing drugs was pulled over. A white person may act more civil. A black person would "chimp out" and as a result get the book thrown at him.

It all comes down to behavioral differences amongst the races.

VariedSort said...

"tyrannical law after oppressive law are implemented to keep white flight from removing the last vestiges of a tax-base from a city."

Nail on the head. To point out, the black community votes democrat around 85-90%. That affects local voting as well. As the black population expands in a metro area, the likelihood of that locality being run by democrats increases. With democrats come plenty of anti-business legislation. There is your white flight...

Zenster said...

Anonymous (2/20 - 10:43 PM): At first she seemed to stand behind her comments, but then (get this!) she was checked into a psych ward for paranoid schizophrenia.

Voluntarily or involuntarily?

Soon enough saying such things will get you checked into a psych ward involuntarily.

Zenster said...

Anonymous (20 - 11:11 PM): In Iowa, noticing this is a greater offense than the crimes themselves.

This is mirrored, if not magnified, in Britain where residents who injure a home invader during the commission of a crime often receive harsher sentences than the criminals themselves.

Zenster said...

Anonymous (2/20 - 11:12 PM): Prior offenses I assume?

Perish the thought that there would have been any correction for that.

Zenster said...

Thrasymachus: The initial attack on BRA, if it ever comes, will come from Asia. It's the only place not in the grip of racial idiocy. But the decline of America is to their advantage, so they are happy to see us die, and aren't eager to interfere with the process.

As The Corsican was so fond of noting:

Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.

― Napoleon Bonaparte ―

Only if they see the end of BRA as necessary to protect their investments will they intervene.

This is a brilliant observation. The onus is now upon Those Who Can See to make sure that China understands how lots of American debt that could potentially be repaid to them is, instead, being flushed down the Black Porcelain Receptacle™.

That would get their collective attention in a New York minute.

Zenster said...

Anonymous (2/21 - 12:06 AM): In the (near) future, Racism = Terrorism.

That is already the case. Observing that Muslims (who are not a race), are terrorists is being "racist". These modern Conservative "racists" have already been labeled "terrorists" by BRA.

Please pay no heed to how Arab Muslims are among the most virulently racist of any and all ethnicities.

W74 said...

What do I see on the Horizon?

I see that it has to end. How it ends is the realm of speculation at this point.

With the death of all things meritocratic we've been building an inverted pyramid. You can spin it around all day, but it has to fall over eventually.

It has to end whether violently or gradual. Even if BR America eventually becomes Africa-West it'll still be an end.

Anonymous said...

A breakdown in society is part of the plan. Look to Argentina for some examples.

There will be a way through this, and we'll come out the other side.

Unfortunately those who would 'save' us afterwards will make us even worse off than before.

This one world gubamint is nobodys friend.

Zenster said...

Alexandra: I can also imagine what would happen if someone dealing drugs was pulled over. A white person may act more civil. A black person would "chimp out" and as a result get the book thrown at him.

It has also been cited how Blacks often do not have a house or car to deal out of and, therefore, the transactions they make are more susceptible to observation by narcotics enforcement.

Without that more secure base, there is also a need to carry additional amounts of the saleable product on their person. Thus making any arrest one that is on charges of distribution and not just possession for personal consumption.

Also, the low income nature of their client base often requires them to make many more smaller denomination sales in that same easier to monitor environment resulting in more frequent arrest.

Chimping out is probably just icing on the cake and a good excuse to rough up a deserving thug.

Pauvre petite!

MrGJG said...

What's happening right now is nobody wants to speak out against these ridiculous lawsuits for fear of being labeled a racist.
People are afraid of being the lone voice in the wilderness.

Fortunately, these people are overplaying their hand, and I believe the majority of white folks would get behind anyone willing to speak out.

White America is suffering from Kitty Genovese syndrome.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kitty_Genovese

Kylie said...

Caiden, excellent comments, I really like your ability to move from point to point logically and clearly.

You write, "How many Haities go to the bathroom in the streets now, two years after their disaster, two years without the ability to rebuild Haiti will the Asians in Japan are far better off."

True. But let me add that even before the earthquake, Haiti had almost NO sanitary waste disposal. The earthquake only made things worse; it did not destroy the country's waste management infrastructure because as recently as 2010, Haiti didn't even have one. Still doesn't.

When I read that shortly after the earthquake, I lost the last remnants of my sympathy for Haitians. It's one thing to say blacks have never built anything as impressive as a cathedral or the Forbidden City, never composed any great music or literature. But never even building a system to manage their own bodily waste? After all the foreign aid they've been given over the years?

Toilets in Haiti

Also, sub-Saharan Africa is another good example of blacks' inability to manage the basics of civilized daily life, despite the infrastructure left behind by the white colonials. All they had to do was to maintain and repair what whites designed and built but even that has proven to be beyond their capabilities.

B. Herder said...

There is a character limit now?

Baldowl said...

I'm afraid any real change will require nothing short of revolution. If things are going to get better, it's not going to happen quietly or bloodlessly. I see a storm on the horizon. We all know who will weather it successfully, but knowing the outcome won't make it any less horrific.

Zenster said...

MrGJG: White America is suffering from Kitty Genovese syndrome.

A superb and most apt analogy.

Everybody knows that a really serious crime is going down ― as in; "the bloodcurdling screams are really hard to ignore" ― yet, no one wants to "get involved" for fear that they might experience similar consequences or get drawn into the ensuing legal fray.

The upshot of which is that they make themselves into the next victim.

Zenster said...

Caiden: Very few blacks will be able to be productive after a fall.



I'd think Russia or India will have more to worry about the Chinese then the US will.


Two gems from a hatful of them.

Sheila said...

Midwestern, it's not only Haiti that doesn't have a functioning waste disposal system - in India, too, people expel and leave their excrement on the street. Read some of the comments from some athletes who were there last year for the Commonwealth games (http://www.theage.com.au/sport/commonwealth-games-village-in-chaos-20100921-15le9). My husband was marveling over how the Romans were able to provide drinking water and public toilets to a city of thousands over two thousand years ago, and the Indians (those famed, brilliant math minds) have yet to figure it out. The reason Singapore has urine sensors in elevators is because the older Chinese men have a habit of peeing in the elevators (you know, part of that ancient, wise culture of theirs). I also read, recently, that Britain has begun placing signs in public toilets instructing third world students on how to use modern plumbing (http://tinyurl.com/6q8gswg).

Re private school tuition and then college costs - we've finally wised up there. My husband used to agonize over how we were to pay for our sons' college education - and used this concern, in part, to justify not having more than two. Now, however, he deeply regrets not having more children and has come to realize what a huge ripoff the modern college system is. Our children will begin at a community college, work, etc., if they feel the need for a degree. FWIW, for many years my husband was the only guy in his office with a degree. It had nothing to do with his work, and didn't make him a better employee. I think we're moving past the credential system, since so many such credentials have been so dumbed down by affirmative action and the fallacious belief "all children deserve a college education." Let the elites brag of their Harvard degrees (and by the way, a Harvard undergrad education is truly lousy). There are far more valuable things in life.

Anonymous said...

"But let me add that even before the earthquake, Haiti had almost NO sanitary waste disposal. The earthquake only made things worse;"

The earthquake in Haiti caused billions of dollars worth of improvements.

Cap'n Crunch said...

it's sad..but true. and nothing is going to change it.I have commented many times on cities in massachusetts..lawrence,lowell,boston..fall river. cities that were built by immigrants from ireland,italy greece,poland.Its easy to see that these cities were built to last many years,many generations. But, due to WW1,WW2,korea,vietnam,iraq,afghanistan..the majority of men who have died there are WHITE,CHRISTIAN MEN.dont believe it. look it up.And i'm talking COMBAT TROOPS. not support.not combat service support.look at the percentage of volunteers to be COMBAT ENGINEERS,(SAPPERS)or the best TOP RANGER competition.Not too many slimjims trying out for that.

Anonymous said...

I am not hiding from anything.I need only 25-100 meters from my home to engage a horde of knuckle draggers.
I have, for a bonehead who wants to harm my family, a 7.62 surprise that it has never seen before.Yes I live and work in NEW HAMPSHIRE. Come and get it.

WideAwake said...

Midwestern:

You need to copy and paste your homeschooling post all over the internet. Your post made so much sense to me. I am planning on having children within the next 5 years and was considering the homeschool option, but your post just cemented it.

Also, are your kids involved in the community? One argument against homeschooling is the socialization aspect, but (White) communities have plenty of groups and churches (if that floats your boat) to allow kids to have a social life without public school.

Van said...

Anon 3:22 AM: "The "anything but Obama" electoral meme is counterproductive. Voting for any of the Republicans will simply mask the problem. The only solution (if it even be a solution) is for the situation to become increasingly worse, increasingly faster. Only then will the "conscious shock" necessary for enlightenment happen."

I happen to believe that the 2012 campaign will become so racially polarizing, and that the accompanying black on white violence so bad, that many - perhaps most - whites will wake up. I already know several lifelong black-loving Democrats who are fed up. One even recently confessed that the "n-word" has come to mind a few times recently when observing blacks in public.

Discard said...

This is pretty speculative, but it seems to me that the Multi-cult is accelerating. For example, the sudden firing of Pat Buchanan after ten years on MSNBC, or this absurd lawsuit against the State of Iowa. There seems to be a race going on between us and them. They are afraid that too many people are opening their eyes, and they want to (a) keep those eyes closed and (b) erect a permanent political structure before enough eyes are opened. The two goals are at odds, since the faster they build their tyranny, the more people notice, yet if they don't establish that tyranny soon enough, the truth will spread. Those who have been wanting the pot to boil faster in order to alarm the frogs may be getting their wish.

Paleface 6 said...

Anonymous said...

Stop censoring my comments.

February 21, 2012 11:14 AM

________________________

Hey, eejit...you don't have a "right" to post here. If you said something so egregiously stupid that PK decided not to put it up, that's just too bad.

Go back to your room, the adults are talking.

mark said...

Re Jay Santos'".....Eventually a brighter culture, maybe the Chinese, or a more aggressive culture, Islam, will seize control of the real estate and something else will grow here..."
The Chinese will dominate because they have a higher baseline IQ and a much larger population meaning there are approxmately 200 million people with IQ > 115 there, while here we have 20 million, approximately.
The influence they exert on us culturally seems negligible compared to that of Islam, but appearances deceive. Islam, ultimately will be a para-military domestic issue. We'll have to put up with the ever encroaching police state, but this policing may turn out to be a widely accepted necessity.
Sometime during China's hegemony of Eur-Asia it will occur to the US intelligentsia that "this will never end".
Compounded interest payments to their sovereign wealth funds will guarantee that. Who knows, maybe we'll sell them a million acres or so of prime farm land to settle accounts.
Whatever happens, I don't forsee a breakdown a la Greece. Socialism just doesn't have the requisite number of sympathizers here. In this country we'll shutter the schools and all other government functions deemed superfluous before that happens.

Don M said...

As Discard said, the Multicultists are accelerating the program. I think our next signpost along the way will occur when we have an Emma West moment in the U.S.

Think about it, she wasn't arrested on the spot. The British version of the NKVD had to send officers to drag her away from her home days after the incident. That is a terrifying prospect.

Will our cultural commissars send the gleeful, armed enforcers of BRA (LEOs) to Paul's house for "inciting hatred" towards their dark pets? Will they come for Unamused and Hunter Wallace too? You? Me?

I don't think it is too far off. No, I think it is a when, not an if. Therefore, the real question is how shall we meet them at our doors? Will it be with ferocious resistance or with meek acceptance only to "burn in the camps" as Alexandr Solzhenitsyn put it?

Whiskey said...

I have some thoughts on the Puritan/Progressives vs. Hillbillies conflict. As you noted, the Civil War did not feature Black guys en-masse fighting the South, it was White guys against other White guys.

Part of the power of the Lawrence KS guys was that they could face down guerilla warfare with powerful things like five times the rail miles, and seven times the railroad locomotives, than the South. THAT was the power of universal education, a life that was more deadly than plowing or holding a gun straight -- because all those rail lines got built by former school-kids that could move a lot more men -- and their supplies.

My own take is that the advantage of that way of thinking and living, a big cultural way, is just about done. That other things are coming, that make the Missourians more powerful than those in Lawrence KS. But I'll leave it at that for now.

Whiskey said...

I will say that pushing an agenda of freedom and responsibility is a way to hit the Achilles Heel of the SWPL/DWL.

Why not simply say that Detroit's people got themselves into that mess, and should get themselves out? No bail-outs, no rule by the State of MI, no patronage, no paternalism, Black people in Detroit sorting things out for themselves.

The reason this works is it plays judo on the assumptions of DWL -- that all peoples possess the same amounts of drive, intelligence, future time orientation, and the like. No one can object to freedom and responsibility, can they? It is what they want for their own lives?

Frame anti-BRA as a way for people to have freedom and responsibility for their own lives. Not patronizing rule by folks who think they are "better" by Providence or some such thing.

Winston Smith said...

I'm listening to a podcast called.the orthodox nationalist and ill be a son of a bitch if we're not getting a Lenin style adjustment coming here. Guess what? He was a technocrat, too, and recognized without technology you couldn't have the authoritarian state he wanted.

Out similarities to the soviet union are becoming much more than skin deep. Its too much to type right now.

RobertB said...

I don't think a people who do this will exert much influence for long--not without us giving them influence:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2005231/Chinas-ghost-towns-New-satellite-pictures-massive-skyscraper-cities-STILL-completely-empty.html

As far as the lack of toilets go, India is not far from Haiti, neither is Mexico. Both still have open sewers in the streets and both "pipe" it into the nearest natural body of water. It is common in central America, as it is in Asia, for people simply to squat wherever they are and let it go. I reprimanded some Chinese once in a Petco store for taking their small child outside the door to urinate on the sidewalk. All the other whites in the store stared at me in disbelief when I informed them that this was America and we don't do that here. I then looked at the store manager and asked whether or not they had bathrooms available and he nodded his head--wide eyed and slack jawed. I turned back to the Chinese and told them to use it next time.

I have no idea what any of those stunned people thought of me and I never cared.

Mr. Rational said...

Our demographic problems were created by government policy, and can be fixed the same way.

What are those policies?

1.  Paying the dysfunctional to reproduce, both in cash and in kind (housing, medical care).

2.  Paying the dysfunctional to move into functional social groups and destroy their social capital.

3.  Allowing the low-skilled to immigrate (against the laws on the books), depress wages for Americans and eliminate the profits which would otherwise be available from automation of low-skilled labor.

The solution is to reverse those policies.

1.  Pay the dysfunctional to avoid reproduction.  Pay them to be sterilized.  If they insist on having babies before they can support a family, put them in barracks housing and make them work at least 8 hours a day.  There would be only 2 ways to get out and receive EBT or housing assistance:  performance at 12th-grade level on reading, writing and math tests administered in English, or sterilization.

Continued benefits would be contingent upon a lack of criminal behavior, including harboring criminals.  This would make it harder and harder for thugs to "stay" with relatives in otherwise crime-free areas.

2.  Require would-be Section 8 renters to be approved by the recipient community.  Allow approval to be rescinded by neighbors.  Require all background files to be open to the reviewers, including juvenile records of non-status offenses.

3.  Pay them to leave.  Mexico considers its second and even third-generation emigrants to be citizens, and wants their loyalty.  Fine; deny all social assistance to people considered citizens of other countries by their governments unless they leave the USA.  Pay them for 5 years or so after they renounce US citizenship for themselves and their children.

It might take a Constitutional amendment to get rid of dual citizenship, but if people are angry enough that might not be too high a bar to jump.

Mr. Rational said...

Dealing with Islam isn't all that difficult either.  Just acknowledge that its agenda is political, not religious, yank its tax-exempt status and other socio-religious trappings (including the "right" to demand religious accomodations such as prayer times, foot baths), ban mosques as subversive organizations and arrest and deport any Muslim who calls for jihad or any element of Sharia or teaches Islamic supremacism.  Allow evidence of following Islam as an aggravating factor in crimes related to it (conspiracy to commit theft, rape, etc.).  Essentially, treat Muslims as they treat dhimmis.  Muslims will self-deport or convert.

RobertB said...

What will happen to America? Eventually the dollar will collapse. When it does, the country will break up into regions. It's already happening in some respects--it isn't just black people mass migrating to regions, but every other demographic in the country. Even without monetary collapse, there will be breakup.

The powers that be sense this on some levels--hence the increase in the heavy hand of the Federal government, the shrillness of the attacks by the Left in general, etc. I know it seems otherwise on the surface, but historically, it is when a power appears to be at it's peak that it is most vulnerable. Each and every component that makes up the Left is using the others to their own advantage. Eventually, that will cause an internal fight for power. I'm thinking the obvious will be Mexicans versus blacks since there is already a war going on there in the streets. It will be the blacks crying out for protection from the Feds.

Think Yugoslavia writ large. Since someone else quoted Solzhenitsyn, let me paraphrase him. In the book, "One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich" Denosovich talks about the survivors and the "Soviet Man"--the equivalent of our DWLs. They didn't survive the camps. They had no sense of self and could not align themselves with anyone else. But those who saw themselves as Russians, Czechs, Pols, etc., they stuck together and helped one another and survived. That is a lesson worth taking to heart. Embrace your people, their heritage and their culture that was at least 3,500 years in the making. Live it every day as an example to those who are ignorant of it and pass it on to your children and grandchildren so they can know it and enjoy it as well.

According to Murray's new book, "Coming Apart", our lowest quartile is coming apart at the seams--becoming "black" as it were. They will be lost in all of this, so it is very important that the rest of us keep up our traditions and historical way of life and support those institutions that reflect that way of life. If the Dark Ages teaches us anything, once it is lost, it is very hard to get it back.

RobertB said...

Winston--

I have seen our movement in that direction all of my adult life. IN HS I had teachers who assigned books by Orwell and Solzhenitsyn and Dostoevsky. In college, I was lucky enough to have professors who were still capable of driving these same points home as well. Multiculturalism is the Soviet Man--a man without a country, heritage, race or kinship. This coup did not take place recently. FDR's administration was full of communist aparatchiks. They have been at work for a very long time--our schools were full of them by the late 70's, early 80's. I remember how shocked I was when a public school teacher admitted, in public, to being a communist in the early 90's. He also warned me in that moment the day was coming for people like me.

To the Marxists, the ultimate oppressor is the white man. To the Marxist, all non-whites are oppressed by all white men. The most oppressed is the black man.

Know your enemy--they are the Marxists.

Anonymous said...

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2. Then here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_St._Louis,_Illinois

3. Then, perhaps, here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Cleveland,_Ohio

Oh those pesky facts.
How they persist in being persistently pesky.

Hope this information will spark a future post or at the very least provide a neat and clear source of information for analysis and reference.

Cheers.

Anonymous said...

Re: 'O'Reilly '...
Is he a war monger, white hating
NeoCon 'RINO' ????

Anonymous said...

and...

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2012/02/21/suspect-in-west-philadelphia-hit-and-run-arrested/

Anonymous said...

Can't remember if I sent this or not...

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2012/02/22/wednesdays-child-justin/

Anonymous said...

They need psychologists now...

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2012/02/21/a-plea-for-school-psychologists-as-philadelphia-continues-paring-schools-budget/

Tyrone shoelaces said...

Hey anony. I read your links.

This is what stood out on east st louis.

East St. Louis has one of the highest crime rates in the United States. According to FBI's data of 2007, its murder rate hit 101.9 per population of 100,000, surpassing that of cities such as Gary, Indiana (48.3 per pop. 100,000), New Orleans, Louisiana (37.6), Baltimore, Maryland (43.3), and Detroit, Michigan (47.3), as well as that of its neighbor St. Louis (37.2). FBI data shows East St. Louis' rate of rape exceeded 250 per population of 100,000.

Nice

It must be whiteys fault. (you know, the 1%)

Kylie said...

"Our demographic problems were created by government policy, and can be fixed the same way...The solution is to reverse those policies."

True but rather than making government payouts to the dysfunctional contingent on their abiding by certain conditions, why not do away with the payouts altogether? (Of course, this would not apply to the mentally retarded or those with debilitating mental illnesses or those genuinely incapacitated.)

"1. Pay the dysfunctional to avoid reproduction. Pay them to be sterilized. If they insist on having babies before they can support a family, put them in barracks housing and make them work at least 8 hours a day. There would be only 2 ways to get out and receive EBT or housing assistance: performance at 12th-grade level on reading, writing and math tests administered in English, or sterilization."

No need for EBT or housing assistance. The living in barracks/8 hours daily working would be sufficient.

"Continued benefits would be contingent upon a lack of criminal behavior, including harboring criminals. This would make it harder and harder for thugs to 'stay' with relatives in otherwise crime-free areas.""2. Require would-be Section 8 renters to be approved by the recipient community. Allow approval to be rescinded by neighbors. Require all background files to be open to the reviewers, including juvenile records of non-status offenses."

No Section 8, period. You do know that Section 8 permits often feckless people to live not just with a roof over their heads but better than many law-abiding, hard-working poor people who don't qualify for it?

I've know Section 8 people to live in houses with hardwood flooring, fireplaces, etc. You would never know they were sucking up government benefits. They were living, through little effort on their part, a comfortable, if modest, middle-class lifestyle. Section 8 renters generally make very poor tenants and neighbors. I have experience with them in both categories and the problems they cause are nightmarish.

"3. Pay them to leave. Mexico considers its second and even third-generation emigrants to be citizens, and wants their loyalty. Fine; deny all social assistance to people considered citizens of other countries by their governments unless they leave the USA. Pay them for 5 years or so after they renounce US citizenship for themselves and their children."

No payment, period. Illegal aliens to be deported immediately, no automatic citizenship for anchor babies, no dual citizenship. I'd like it to be much harder for people to become American citizens. They should have to have a marketable skill, no criminal background in their native country and a clean record here for, say, at least five years before they can even apply for citizenship. They should also have to pay something towards the education of any of their children attending US public schools.

We have got to turn off the financial spigot. Even a trickle will encourage the kind of behavior that should be eliminated, not merely reduced.

Winston Smith said...

Thank you, Robert B!

I knew in my head they were directing the Soviet and American systems to be easier to merge. I knew that most or all planks of the communist manifesto have been achieved in the USA.

The podcast just drove it home, by way of historical narrative, how they've done the same thing to us, why they're doing it, and what for.

They hate and fear those who work the land(inherently anti Soviet ), must destroy the family(children are property of the state) , everybody gets a food ration (ebt) card and are controlled and tied to the state, their true aim is to cause chaos to rebuild society to their liking and advantage (order out of chaos).

Its very interesting, and uber depressing. Knowledge is very fucking painful. Where's that blue pill again? I know its around here somewhere.

Winston Smith said...

RobertB

It goes without saying the FEMA camps they've put on 72 hr notice are for you and me. At least we'll be in good company.

They quickly made un pc speech a death sentence.

All these things they're getting by incrementalism.

None of this is news to you I'm certain but you inspired me to type it out.

Mr. Rational said...

why not do away with the payouts altogether?

Because riots and images of starving babies are great ways to stampede the electorate into fulfilling the demands of the poverty pimps, that's why.

No need for EBT or housing assistance. The living in barracks/8 hours daily working would be sufficient.

That's too punitive to sell.  There has to be an out, a goal to work for.  Besides, that way the masses who can't or won't get over the bar can be called stupid and lazy and deserving to be right where they are.  The voters must see it as justice.

No payment, period. Illegal aliens to be deported immediately, no automatic citizenship for anchor babies, no dual citizenship.

What do you do about the children and grandchildren of the illegals who got the 1986 amnesty?  They're citizens, but not like us.  If they're too feckless to make a living here, paying them to go back to the land of their ancestors is a "kinder, gentler" deportation.  Again, something the public will go for.

If there's violence over such reasonable measures... then you can get punitive and not produce a voter backlash.

Zenster said...

Discard: There seems to be a race going on between us and them. They are afraid that too many people are opening their eyes, and they want to (a) keep those eyes closed and (b) erect a permanent political structure before enough eyes are opened. [emphasis added]

Yet one more sterling reason to make sure Obama is unseated. A Republican candidate will still kowtow to PCMC (Politically Correct Multi-Culturalism), but it will be to nowhere the extent of BHO's BRA nor will it carry anywhere near the amount of legal framing that BHO might otherwise enact.

The two goals are at odds, since the faster they build their tyranny, the more people notice, yet if they don't establish that tyranny soon enough, the truth will spread.

This is where it becomes so important to kill your television and out the MSM's complicity in perpetuating White America's ignorance of BRA.

Those who have been wanting the pot to boil faster in order to alarm the frogs may be getting their wish.

Trust me, a Republican in the Oval Office will still get things simmering fast enough. What passes for Republican leadership differs from its Democratic version only by which pockets the money ends up in. Both are shot through with corruption.

Zenster said...

mark: The Chinese will dominate because they have a higher baseline IQ and a much larger population meaning there are approximately 200 million people with IQ > 115 there, while here we have 20 million, approximately.

You may wish to reconsider the importance of g (General Intelligence) before throwing so much weight to an extra 15 points of IQ. Despite their supposedly higher average IQ, the Chinese do not display anywhere near the cognitive ability of American and European Whites in terms of logic and other measures of mental capacity.

What's more, the Chinese government has no qualms about falsifying published test results and would treat the actual scores as state secrets.

So, how are we supposed to obtain any realistic measure of average Chinese IQ? What would those scores look like if all the illiterate backwater peasants were included in those statistics?

If the Chinese really were so much more intelligent than us, they wouldn't have to be copying and stealing so much of America's high technology.

Zenster said...

Don M: Therefore, the real question is how shall we meet them at our doors? Will it be with ferocious resistance or with meek acceptance only to "burn in the camps" as Alexandr Solzhenitsyn put it?

Great citation!

To quote:

What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, polkers, or whatever else was at hand? [emphasis added]

(Part I The Prison Industry, Ch. 1 "Arrest" (p3, The Gulag Archipelago, Collins 1974)

Zenster said...

Mr. Rational: Dealing with Islam isn't all that difficult either. Just acknowledge that its agenda is political, not religious, yank its tax-exempt status and other socio-religious trappings (including the "right" to demand religious accomodations such as prayer times, foot baths), ban mosques as subversive organizations and arrest and deport any Muslim who calls for jihad or any element of Sharia or teaches Islamic supremacism. Allow evidence of following Islam as an aggravating factor in crimes related to it (conspiracy to commit theft, rape, etc.). Essentially, treat Muslims as they treat dhimmis. Muslims will self-deport or convert.

Worth repeating verbatim. How encouraging to see someone else that truly "gets it" about Islam.

Zenster said...

RobertB: Each and every component that makes up the Left is using the others to their own advantage. Eventually, that will cause an internal fight for power.

Excellent observation. The Left's weapon of "diversity" is one that shall eventually be turned against it by competing internecine factions.

The divisive nature that DWL's embody through their unwillingness to live amongst their protected "pets" will be their downfall.

Know your enemy--they are the Marxists.

The Cultural Marxists, to be precise. Altogether, some great comments, RobertB. That article about "China's ghost towns" was especially revealing as were some of the comments posted there.

Where are all the business management types that are supposed to fill those numerous empty skyscrapers? Assembly line workers do not magically metamorphose into middle managers and administrative experts. China and Islam share in a common a tendency towards massive overreach.

Mr. Rational said...

If the Chinese really were so much more intelligent than us, they wouldn't have to be copying and stealing so much of America's high technology.

An intelligent opponent wouldn't bother to re-invent what he can steal quicker and more cheaply.

RobertB said...

Thanks, Zenster.

To you and Don, I have thought much about "The Gulag" over the last 18 years--especially since Ruby Ridge and Waco--but also since the Patriot Act went into force. It was actually written under another name by Janet Reno, but shelved in the wake of those two incidents. Our government is very capable of violent reprisals against us as a people and will use force. That's why I believe we actually need a fiscal meltdown for us to win--just as in the Soviet Union, when the end came, it came because the soldiers called out to fire on the people refused. Largely because they hadn't been paid either.

It's all very scary now--very. It's amazing to me how many people are walking around ignoring what's happening with the belief that "it can't happen here in America" when it is happening right before their eyes.

BTW, I posted in the Houston thread that I liked your analysis of TV. I would like to add here that when I was in college in the late 70's, early 80's I had no TV set--mine had been stolen. instead I listened to the radio and found lots of radio programs back then. My favorite were the old theater shows rebroadcast by the CBS radio network. These were from the 30's and 40's and were actually really good entertainment. I even had friends coming over on Sunday evenings for what must have been their flagship show back in that day. If you can find these, I highly recommend them.

RobertB said...

Opps--forgot to add this about the Soviet terror machine. Solzhenitsyn was right about how they should have reacted. I have made this point many times to Auster over the years, but it's too incendiary for him to post--I guess. Given the reality, this is why I advocate for people moving away from the big cities on the coasts and moving to the interior Red States.

It is freer here and there are far less blacks here than elsewhere to start with. It still feels like America here--or so I am told by those who move here. The more of "us" that live in those states, the higher the probability that we can push for session when the time comes.

Funnily enough, that viewpoint was seen as selfish on OneSTDV. It's not selfish, it's common sense. Swimming upstream will tire anyone. The East Coast, and the West, are lost. At least for now. It's better to consolidate and build a substantial enough power base that the governors in those states will feel empowered such that they will refuse the national guard to the Feds should it come to that. Believe me when I tell you that, right now, west of me in the Dakotas, Montana, Wyoming, etc. that they are wishing they were not part of the US and subject to the control of DC. W/O the encumbrance, they have the potential, along with Canada, of being a massive producer and exporter of oil. That pipeling Obama killed was not just for Canadien oil, but also the Bakken oil Fields as well.

And it isn't just oil. It's mineral deposits, gas and coal. the five state area alone has enough carbon fuels, mineral resources and water to become one of the world's industrial powers. And to top all of that off, the highest average IQ in America state by state--103-105. Federal regulations, and especially Obama, are killing this. America could become a net exporter of oil again there is so much out there.

Should the center of the nation go off on it's own, it would be economically far better off than it is now. Culturally, it would be "America".

Winston Smith said...

Robert B

I'm re-reading gulag archipelago on your mention. Unfortunately, as history repeats itself, I believe it will come to that.

As I understand "order out of chaos " after the US is completely broken, whomever will come as our savior, and we'll accept slavery(by debt) and a lower standard of living in exchange for possibly some order. Of course they'll give us order that's only in their favor, while continuing to pit us against one another so we can't unite to throw off the shackles. The oppression will be like east germany, naturally, but with more sickening ways to spy on people due to technology.

This will be dreamed of fascism and loyalty to the state, children spying on parents, equality through poverty, etc.

Like pre ww2 Germany, we'll keep telling ourselves it can't get any worse.

Then they'll send us to the camps, for our 'safety'.

RobertB said...

Mr. Rational--

Apparently many people--too many people, have forgotten just who build modern China. It wasn't the Chinese. It was American and English businessmen, thats who. Their capital, their "genius", their know-how.

The Chinese, like every other non-white, jealous "minority" in the world, are busy revising history to make themselves look better. In the case of the Chinese, this is not new and has been going on, through their own admission, for centuries. The most recent admission of this came over the silly book that made the silly assertion that a fleet of giant Chinese junks circumnavigated the globe during the High Middle Ages--and no one saw this or made note of it. They did this, in spite of the the fact that to this day they cannot build an ocean going vessel on their own--they pay the Russians to do that. When asked, Chinese historians admitted that it was made up to please the Emperor along with many other histories. This was because the Chinese believed themselves to be the center of the universe and the object of all learning--until YT showed up in real ocean going vessels with a real map of the world. Thus, to make the Emperor feel better about their obvious deficiencies, they simply re-wrote all history to lay claim to the achievements of YT, long before YT did it himself.

The Chinese are the original historical revisionists. Blacks could be called pikers by comparison. But it also brings to mind the assertions by Soviets in the Cold War days and their insistence that they invented everything.

Zenster said...

Mr. Rational: An intelligent opponent wouldn't bother to re-invent what he can steal quicker and more cheaply.

Intellectual property theft is a velvet cage. Its habituating nature leaves addicts without the mental acumen to compete innovatively. Only invention's trial and error process inculcates real creative thinking. It's also something that cannot be taught save by the aforementioned process.

The short term profit-oriented mentality of Chinese industry will really come back to haunt them. This is even more the case with a population whose g (General Intelligence) quotient is not comensurate with their IQ.

As Discard noted in the "Lin's Star Rises" thread:

For all the talk of them updating their military, they still have very good reason to worry about whatever nasty surprises those creative Big Noses might have up their sleeves.

Yes, the Chinese have dazzled one of our spy satellites with a laser. Could they ever have invented one? Can they shoot down satellites and ICBMs with ground or air-based megawatt lasers? I sincerely doubt it.

(Incidentally, when a multi-megawatt laser beam intercepts a satellite it doesn't slag it or cut the thing up. Photons have mass and a high power beam slams into the target with all the kinetic impact of a Greyhound bus.)

For those who are curious as to why the Chinese are interested in lunar exploration, here's a clue. Due to a lack of atmosphere and constant solar bombardment, the lunar regolith is heavily enriched with tritium. You know, the stuff that helps H-bombs go "bang" and is an ideal fusion fuel.

Mr. Rational said...

RobertB - You are a few years my junior, and while you are likely correct (historical revisionism requires history, and those who start keeping history first have a head start) it's a universal human thing that history is written by the victors.  The Hebrews, for example, were doubtless not as good as their tribal lore makes them out to be today.

This does not take away from the fact that the Chinese sent fleets of junks to East Africa years before Europeans sailed around the Cape.  This was both bold and skillful.  This was countered by a serious weakness; the Emperor, afraid that discovery would upset the established order of things, had the fleets recalled and the ships burned.

Underestimating the Chinese in the 21st century is as foolish as underestimating the Japanese in the 20th.  They are clearly capable of much, including taking lessons learned by others and improving on their teachers' work... which is how the Renaissance became the start of everything we enjoy today.  But we must also recognize their weaknesses, exemplified by the sudden and unquestioned halt to their abortive Age of Oriental Exploration.  Last, we must not forget our own.

Anonymous said...

RobertB

I thought kim jung IL invented everything and made the sun rise and set?

I'm betting on the great White Northwest myself. I hope to leave the golden state(golden brown. hah! I crack me up ;-) )

Intellectually I appreciate the Alamo argument, but practically speaking it doesn't end well and there's a lot to be said for living to fight another day.

Mr. Rational said...

Zenster(Incidentally, when a multi-megawatt laser beam intercepts a satellite it doesn't slag it or cut the thing up. Photons have mass and a high power beam slams into the target with all the kinetic impact of a Greyhound bus.)

No it doesn't.  The momentum of photons is very small (p = e/c).  Your 10 megawatt beam, perfectly reflected back to the source, transmits a force of about 0.067 Newtons.

Now, vaporizing a layer off the facing side of the satellite with a very short pulse—THAT slams like a Greyhound bus, and transmits shock waves through the material spalling off chunks from the far side... quite destructive.

Due to a lack of atmosphere and constant solar bombardment, the lunar regolith is heavily enriched with tritium.

No it isn't.  Tritium has a half-life of about 11 years.  It decays to He-3, which IS present in some quantity in lunar regolith.

Zenster said...

RobertB: BTW, I posted in the Houston thread that I liked your analysis of TV.

Thank you for that. Very few people realize that they are being bought and sold like the human slaves to television that they are.

Even sadder is how some of the finest quality programming resides at PBS, a Liberal indoctrination portal. The Masterpiece Theater versions of Charles Dickens plus other period pieces like "Middlemarch" by George Eliot and Conrad's "Nostromo" are superlative. Likewise with much of the documentary work by Frontline. I just cannot bear the Liberal undertone enough to watch television anymore.

My favorite were the old theater shows rebroadcast by the CBS radio network. These were from the 30's and 40's and were actually really good entertainment.

As a young child, our family did not own a television and I can remember listening to Orson Welles narrating "Tales of Scotland Yard". So, believe me, I understand you.

Zenster said...

Mr. Rational: This does not take away from the fact that the Chinese sent fleets of junks to East Africa years before Europeans sailed around the Cape. This was both bold and skillful. This was countered by a serious weakness; the Emperor, afraid that discovery would upset the established order of things, had the fleets recalled and the ships burned.

A similar case involved the first steam locomotives in China. The emperor did not see much use for them and, as a consequence, they were left in disuse. It is a byproduct of a country where the leader's word is not just law but absolute reality.

This absolutism, or fear of upsetting "the established order of things", is reflected in modern China's command economy and in how that nation actually has a "Ministry of Truth" which, being the ultimate arbiter of fact, can only be regarded as a serious, government imposed, impediment to all free thought.

It bespeaks a serious intellectual inertia and political materialism (as it were), that will inhibit change of even the most productive sort. This worries the wealthy politburo Mandarins not one whit as they continue to fart through silk.

Underestimating the Chinese in the 21st century is as foolish as underestimating the Japanese in the 20th. They are clearly capable of much, including taking lessons learned by others and improving on their teachers' work... which is how the Renaissance became the start of everything we enjoy today.

Be that as it may, there remains a key issue of how an all-controlling government like the politburo is not entirely hospitable to genuinely creative people (i.e., individuals). Said individuals tend to instigate change ― and not just technological paradigm shifts ― but that other messier type of change known as revolution. One cannot simultaneously discourage inventiveness and still manage to foster innovation.

The inhibitions imposed by Renaissance Catholicism were counterbalanced by less restrictive Protestant attitudes towards business and science. Would Europe have enjoyed such a flowering of investigative science and invention if, instead, the Papal States had been its sole governmental model?

China's totalitarian schemata doesn't enjoy anything like the moderating "control rods" which Protestantism provided Renaissance Europe. What hope have they of a viable dissident minority that can survive the tender mercies of China's PLA (People's Liberation Army), not to mention its attendant legislative and punitive wings? The outlook is exceedingly grim and Western civilization gains NOTHING from it.

Kylie said...

"'why not do away with the payouts altogether?'

Because riots and images of starving babies are great ways to stampede the electorate into fulfilling the demands of the poverty pimps, that's why."


Yes, I understand that that is true--in our current political climate.

But I was replying to your suggestion: "Our demographic problems were created by government policy, and can be fixed the same way...

The solution is to reverse those policies."


If we had the political will to reverse those policies, that would also mean that the political climate had change enough that riots and images of starving babies would provoke to the electorate to anger at the so-called "victims", not pity.

Stuff Black People Don't Like said...

Caiden,

Please re-submit your comment, but take out "The-word-that-must-not-be-named" (the dreaded n-word).

I don't want to censor comments, but those will no longer make it through.

Caiden said...

Ah, well, I know I couldn't mention 'those who can not be named' who I'm usually ok with, but got away with the other word before.

Mostly my point was while I don't call myself a Republican they are the lesser of two evils. The Democrats actively work to damage American and hurt whites. The Republicans... well, they're more for responsibility, mean you're more on your own, but always usually more job friendly then the Democrats who are the party of welfare.

I assume blacks will still riot when Obama loses. When Bush won a second term the Democrats really painted it that he stole the election. Wiether or not you liked Bush you'd have to admit this mindset that the Democrats created was very damaging to the country. Especially considering how often Democratic voters seem to rise out of the grave to vote for Democrats in Chicago.

So when Obama loses blacks will scream and rant and riot, in every city.

I also put forth that if someone more right centered, like Rush or Oriely, did give racial realist views on blacks it wouldn't really help out cause. It wouldn't hurt it, but he would be attacked by the left, fired like that one guy who called black basketball players nappy headed hoes, and blind whites will speak up on how much they hate the racist person to demonstate how much they're not racist.

If anyone here went on one of those network morning shows, Good Morning America or whatever, and held a sign the network would use it's resources to attack that person.

The horrible thing is I think the only thing that will wake people up is DEALING with the reality. Right now most of us are safe, threatened, but people have food, and can watch tv, so to many it's fine.

They don't realize how they're white kids are taught they're evil because of their race, or how low standards (getting pregnant at 15 for example) is an acceptable life style because black's own low standards have made it so.

The sad horrible thing is the only more victims is going to wake people up. Every day blacks are raping and killing whites, asians and hispanics. One minute you're watching some CSI Idaho, the next you got a call your college age daughter was raped and killed by her black boyfriend, or your son was jump by 7 brave blacks who kicked him into a coma. And then more people will see the truth.

I wish it was easier to get people to see now, to understand where we're headed, because it's not going to stop. Blacks are not going to condemn other blacks, the politcans will not allow cops to deal with racial crimes realistically, especially when so many cops have to be used to hand out tickets to create more revenue for failing schools filled with illegitmate failing black kids.

For what it's worth, what's coming won't be easy or fun, but I think it's unavoidable because it's where liberals and blacks are driving us. Whites will either act like those hipsters and become compliate victims, or fight back.

We outnumber blacks, we're smarter then them, and while we have empathy for those deserving there will come apoint that the black hatred and actions against whites can no longer be ignored.

Most of the special forces are whites. Most of the air force is made up of whites. and those whites are not the sons and daughters of liberal millionaires, they are the sons and daughters of working Americans who are trying to protect America. So if it comes to a point where things get ugly I doubt most of the armed services will be attacking us. Those national guardsmen who went into NO after Katrina new those blacks were feral.

Very sorry to use wrong language here, it's your site and I'm thankful for the work you do and for letting us comment.

This is not exactly what I wrote before but has the same points I had before.

Zenster said...

Caiden: The sad horrible thing is the [that] only more victims is going to wake people up.

Welcome to yet another similarity between Blacks and Islam:

№ 60: Only more victims will wake people up.

I do declare that this list will reach 100 items.

For what it's worth, what's coming won't be easy or fun, but I think it's unavoidable because it's where liberals and blacks are driving us.

Just as Islam cannot be excused for its treachery and barbarism, neither can Blacks.

№ 61: Both must bear ultimate responsibility for their misdeeds

Nonetheless, it still remains important to recognize how Liberals are employing both in their drive to deconstruct Western (read: White) civilization.

№ 62: Liberals employ both in deconstructing Western civilization

Mr. Rational said...

If we had the political will to reverse those policies, that would also mean that the political climate had change[d]

The political climate is already angry on the right ("Taxed Enough Already", anyone?), but a measured approach is required.  Demanding responsibility from the recipients of public benefits would be very popular today.  Some enforcement measures would fly.

riots and images of starving babies would provoke to the electorate to anger at the so-called "victims", not pity.

You have to give them a chance to be responsible, or the squishy middle won't have the guts to say "enough" just yet.  But pushing things a bit at a time is more likely to work than all at once; concealed carry was adopted state by state, not in Washington.

Also, we should demand responsibility of everyone, from the ghettoes of Detroit to the colonias of the Southwest to the hollers of W. Virginia.  It should not be a race thing, it should be a matter of morality and work ethics.  All underclasses should be told to shape up or exit the stage, no excuses accepted.

Kylie said...

"You have to give them a chance to be responsible, or the squishy middle won't have the guts to say 'enough' just yet."

True. But I think you and I have two different scenarios in mind. You're anticipating small changes over time. And that's probably how it will play out. But if there's an epiphany that the middle can't avoid seeing, then we could see rapid change. It wouldn't even have to be when TSHTF. I think something like, say, the LA riots or another Katrina aftermath would do it.

"But pushing things a bit at a time is more likely to work than all at once; concealed carry was adopted state by state, not in Washington."

Definitely. But once again, I think we're starting from different vantage points. You're saying Let's make things happen incrementally. I'm saying, If something does happen to change a lot of minds very quickly, let's don't take a halfway approach, let's go whole hog.

I think small changes over time is the more likely scenario. But boy, if we got a chance to sweep the decks clean, I'd love to see that happen. When I was one of the working poor in a low-income, mixed-race neighborhood, I saw SO much cheating of the government by the underclasses--black, white and Hispanic--that it really soured me on all but the most essential social services.

"Also, we should demand responsibility of everyone, from the ghettoes of Detroit to the colonias of the Southwest to the hollers of W. Virginia. It should not be a race thing, it should be a matter of morality and work ethics. All underclasses should be told to shape up or exit the stage, no excuses accepted."

Absolutely. I have NEVER advocated double standards whites and non-whites. I want all people of all races held to the same standards. One of the problems with having blacks in our midst--especially now that they can get away with so much--is that they provide a horrible example to poor whites, who in better circumstances, we could shame into behaving better and who we could refuse to help without incurring the dreaded "racist" charge.

Thank you for taking the time to reply to me in so much detail. I always enjoy reading your comments and I'm really flattered you replied to mine.

RobertB said...

Zenster--

Hmmm, Orson Wells, what a guy. I know how you feel. I love the Masterpiece theater shows. Aren't most of them English in production? And I do like Frontline and Nova. The Emperor didn't like the steam engine because the Chinese didn't invent it. Blame it on those crazy Greeks again:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_engine

Rational--

The only people who think Chinese seafaring was an accomplishment for their day are people who do not sail big water. No offense, but until you are out in the middle of it, with no site of landfall and dealing with waves that are as tall as your masts, in water that is sub 50F, you just won't get it. Nobody has ever come close to equaling the white man's wanderlust and his ability to satisfy it. No one.

There is no equating sailing from China to East Africa and "rounding the cape"--no comparison. I sail. The only big water I have sailed are the Great Lakes and mostly Lake Superior, but trust me in this when I tell you that the difference between rounding the cape and crossing the China sea is akin to skiing mount Everest and sliding down the hill at the local park. One takes a sea worthy vessel and true seamanship, the other takes about as much talent as sailing around on a small lake. The Chinese were never not within site of land. Thus, it was less arduous than sailing from Duluth to Mackinac Island. You cannot see the shore once away from it, on Lake Superior or Michigan "swells" are routinely 30 ft high. This never happens in the waters the Chinese sailed. Further, the Chinese never figured out how to navigate by the stars--you cannot cross big water w/o it--until GPS, anyway.

Only the best sailed the Atlantic and we now know for sure that the Vikings crossed it a thousand years ago. You know what else we know about European sailors? Well, there was a Middle Ages German merchant guild known as "The Hanseatic League". Their ship logs from the 13th century show, without doubt, that their ships were as far South as at least 26 degrees North Latitude--at least. How do we know? They were navigating by the Southern Cross.

Let the Chinese top that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanseatic_League

http://earthsky.org/favorite-star-patterns/the-southern-cross-signpost-of-southern-skies

There isn't a Chinese designed and built ship to this day that could ply the Atlantic. The Pacific is a pond by comparison. As I said before, Russia designs and builds Chinese ships, though I understand they are going to build their own carriers after the Russians build the first one or two--they will use them as a template.

There is no other race that can touch the white man--none. We are God's children. When, and if, we go, there will be an end to all upward progress--all of it.

RobertB said...

Hmm--Hey Rational, looks like those pesky Greeks beat the Chinese again.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spice_trade

I had forgotten that the the Greeks and Romans traded with India via sea transport. Pretty clever of them, ehh?

Caiden said...

Kylie,

while unscientific I'd seen some evidence the whites are walking up to the dangers of BRA. When I see yahoo news stories involving race there are ALOT of people saying how they're angry with black crime.

When there was a shooting at a George Clinton concert several months ago alot of people were pointing out the article didn't mention race, so that usually means blacks. So blacks and DWL were saying those concerts are mostly white so it 'must' have been a white guy, although all the witnesses they interviewed were black. So whites are speaking up online. Does that mean we'll get real change soon? I don't know. I think when Obama loses we will see alot of riots across the country, England style bonfires, and at some point I think most of the middle class will finally start demanding change from politicans regarding immigration and section 8 housing and welfare for loser criminals.

Kylie said...

"Kylie,
while unscientific I'd seen some evidence the whites are walking up to the dangers of BRA. When I see yahoo news stories involving race there are ALOT of people saying how they're angry with black crime."


I've seen the same thing. It used to be the comment sections were dominated by PC remarks; a few race realists would comment and everyone else would jump on them. Not any more. Even the leftwing rags like the NYT and the St. Louis Post now have lots of race realists commenting.

Still, there are huge swaths of the American public who are apolitical and just trying to make ends meet. I don't think their POV has changed much. Oh, they may be starting to notice things that would have flown under their radar a few years ago but they are far from being up in arms.

"I think when Obama loses we will see alot of riots across the country, England style bonfires..."

Speaking as a reasonably prepared person in a small town with an even smaller black population, I welcome that prospect. Not sure how likely it is, though.

Thanks for replying to me. You are another whose comments I always enjoy.

Caiden said...

Kylie,

Thanks for the kind words. I do have to remind myself to reread what I wrote, I try not to 'rant' but it's mostly stream of consious this-is-what-I'm-thinking type stuff.

Even on IMDB when stupid things are brought up, ie 'why doesn't the black character get more lines' people are moaning how stupid it is, while afew years ago everyone would agree to show what a good liberal they were. I try to be tacitfully add my 2 cents without getting banned. Funny thing is I've seen whole threads I've commented on get wiped out, not just my comments but everything. No warning so far and I'm not saying forbidden words but when you bring up Katrina shows blacks wouldn't do well in a zombie movie people get uncomfortable.

In a thread about horrible cities someone mentioned one with alot of white trash, and I mentioned Detroit having alot of black trash - not very tactful I know but waiting for response before I point the double standard of using trash like that.

Yes, sadly there are still people clinging to the facade. As I've said before (I know I repeat myself withthis) but the more white victims means more whites will walk up.

Even now people are 'safe enough' to ignore the greater threat, but with everything, rising gas prices, low employment, under employment, the white middle class is getting more and more frustrated. More and more will be less likely to think kindly of rioting blacks like the 60s when most whites had it far better today in terms of prides and safety and felt misplaced empathy for blacks who burned their own neighborhoods.

I too live in a mostly white area, so personally should be fine for a long time when SHTF. I do feel bad for the people in cities who can see, but figure most would be realist enough to have plans on getting out of town in an emergency.

Some whites may have to stay in Killidelphia for jobs but when they sense primal rage is building the smart ones will drop everything, grab the family and head out ASAP. It's the hipsters and liberals that will be Guendelsberger-ized by blacks first

(hmm, Guendelsberger-ized isn't going to catch on I think but it's good to remember people like her who witnessed black atrocities and would rather pretend it didn't happen)

Zenster said...

Mr. Rational: Now, vaporizing a layer off the facing side of the satellite with a very short pulse—THAT slams like a Greyhound bus, and transmits shock waves through the material spalling off chunks from the far side... quite destructive.

Thank you. That's what I meant. My work on the SDI ("Star Wars") Project was over two decades ago and the facts I learned back then are becoming a little hazy.

Permit me to say that I am slightly curious about your background and the wide range of knowledge you display.

Tritium has a half-life of about 11 years. It decays to He-3, which IS present in some quantity in lunar regolith.

That doesn't change how tritium content in the lunar regolith is still much higher than any natural form of it here on earth. With tritium priced at some $4,000 per gram, there is a lot of incentive to find a way of harvesting it.

Mr. Rational said...

The only people who think Chinese seafaring was an accomplishment for their day are people who do not sail big water.

What about the Polynesians who sailed much longer distances out of sight of land... in canoes?

Yes, yes, I know about the Greeks and the Vikings.  The Greeks sailed only the Mediterranian, and the Vikings only sent handfuls of small boats.  The Chinese accomplishment is unique for its day, and deserves acknowledgement.  Had they stayed merely to perform discovery and conduct trade, our history would have been very different.  Had they learned or discovered superior methods of navigation, Europe might have been the backwater instead.

Some parts of history are fate, some are contingency.  We ignore contingency at our own risk; the Chinese withdrawal led to British gunboats opening Cathay up for trade using opium.

There is no other race that can touch the white man--none.

Let us hope so, and let us shed the dead weight of BRA and White Guilt to reach higher.

m said...

Permit me to say that I am slightly curious about your background and the wide range of knowledge you display.

Zenster, I prefer not to discuss that in public.

With tritium priced at some $4,000 per gram, there is a lot of incentive to find a way of harvesting it.

It may be $4000/gm today, but without a workable power reactor to use it a few kg/yr would saturate the market; that's too little to justify a lunar mining operation.  It's harder to fuse deuterium and He-3 (which will still have some D-D side reactions yielding neutrons) than D-T, and we are nowhere near to useful breakeven in a D-T reactor.  Just admit that fusion is inherently hard.  No matter how good D-He3 fusion is, it's too late to be the solution to BRA.

Zenster said...

Mr. Rational: Zenster, I prefer not to discuss that in public.

Please know how that is your absolute privilege and something which I respect one hundred percent. Your continued contributions here are far more important than any unwarranted disclosure.

I can only say that it is refreshing in the extreme to encounter someone who is so well-versed on such a large number of widely varied topics. Especially if that someone has the temerity… er, I mean gall… er, acumen to correct any of my own factual lapses.

Few people can simultaneously comment with any authority on history in general, ancient maritime expertise in particular, peak oil (which, yes, does exist but is still a puppet of political and industrial agents who have a serious vested interest in both any hysteria it can generate along with the complacency its denial creates), not to mention high energy physics, evolution and a host of other seemingly unrelated topics.

Again, quite refreshing, if I do say so myself.

PS: Your own interpretation of how Peak Oil is being used by both sides for totally adversarial aims would be most welcome.

Zenster said...

Mr. Rational: Just admit that fusion is inherently hard.

Have I ever asserted otherwise? In reality it is the challenge of materials science (e.g., hydrogen embrittlement of stainless steel alloys), that continues to thwart fusion power generation as opposed to tritium supply or driver energy supply systems.

As it stands, much of recent technological advancement lies in, not issues of scaling (or reduction of scale, as with solid state circuits), but in the purity, reliability and reproducibility of the materials which these efforts rely upon.

No matter how good D-He3 fusion is, it's too late to be the solution to BRA.

Again, nowhere have I argued against this. America's potential economic collapse is a foreground event that totally eclipses the background of downstream fusion power generation save for the short-term advances (e.g., Bussard), that might reverse that trend.

Zenster said...

Mr. Rational: It may be $4000/gm today, but without a workable power reactor to use it a few kg/yr would saturate the market; that's too little to justify a lunar mining operation.

I think that you may be dismissing the robotic aspect which recent Mars probes have proven to be of such astonishing efficacy. A few such excavators crawling about with a rather simple low-G launch and return system might upend that entire model.

More than anything, America needs to focus upon electrical solutions. Nearly every appliance of importance operates via electrical power and, therefore, benefits from photovoltaic energy generation and many other forms of alternative power generation.

Cars are a minuscule portion, despite their enormous environmental impact, of the energy demand that modern civilization faces.

Far too much of the alarm and ridiculous hysteria that surrounds Peak Oil involves The Great Warmening

Zenster said...

Mr. Rational: What about the Polynesians who sailed much longer distances out of sight of land... in canoes?

Being half-Viking myself, I was amazed to read Michener's "Hawaii" and gain an understanding of what it took for Polynesians to reach the nascent Hawaiian archipelago.

Their ability to steer well beyond any previously recorded celestial navigation was monumental.

Such an accomplishment rivaled that of Christophoro Columbus, hands down. Fortunately, my Viking Scandihoovian ancestors managed to kick hemispherical gluteus maximus to such a degree that I have few feelings of inferiority.

RobertB said...

Mr. Rational--

"Yes, yes, I know about the Greeks and the Vikings. The Greeks sailed only the Mediterranian, and the Vikings only sent handfuls of small boats."

You don't really understand or know what a keel is, do you? Asians in general never had them--they didn't need them. To understand what a keel is, I suggest you get into a row boat and paddle out from shore on any of the great lakes and see what happens to you in a real swell. No one has ever referred to the Pacific as "The high seas" because they aren't. No weather such as is routine in the Atlantic. It takes balls to sail the Atlantic, even more to round the cape of Africa or tip of South America.

You don't read and you know not of what you speak. The Greeks sailed the Red Sea and the Arabian Gulf as well--so did the Romans. Thus, they top the Chinese. So did others. They also sailed to India and there is strong evidence of Chinese/Roman diplomatic relationships. Silk was important. The Hansa had silk mills in northern Germany.

http://phoenicia.org/trade.html

The Romans had a North Sea fleet 2,000 years ago--to support their troops in Britannia and Germany as well as the Amber trade. They had ships as far NE as modern day Russia. How dangerous is the North Sea? Good lord, it's the most violent water on the face of the earth.

Island hopping with canoes is considered an extremely primitive form of travel--even 2,000 years ago. Remember my post concerning Solutreans and their crossing of the Atlantic during an ice age? 25,000 years ago? Same thing. The evidence to support it, beyond flint making, is the existence of settlements on the east coast predating by thousands of years the Siberian land bridge crossing.

I don't do revisionist history, who's only purpose is to denigrate Western Heritage and accomplishment. You need to compare Apples to Apples and oranges to oranges.

""What about the Polynesians who sailed much longer distances out of sight of land... in canoes?"

The Pacific is a calm pond compared to the Atlantic. When was the last time you heard of a ship being lost at sea in the Pacific? Answer, never.

A map helps put this into perspective:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Polynesian_Migration.svg

Island hopping is no big deal.

You don't sail, you know not of what you speak. I don't know what to say to you, but anyone who knows anything about sailing knows there is simply no comparison. what the Vikings did far surpasses what the Polynesians did by virtue of the differences between the two bodies of water.

The only reason why anyone thinks anything of it is because it is just one more way to denigrate the achievements of Western Man.

Discard said...

RobertB: The Pacific has storms. Big ones. They sink ships. Did you know that a typhoon is the same thing as a hurricane, except that it occurs in the Pacific? Or that a cyclone is also the same thing as a hurricane, except that it occurs in the Indian Ocean?
Polynesian navigation was a tremendous feat. Let's see you do better without GPS. Thousands of aircrew died there because they got lost during WW2, even with compasses and radios.
Greeks and Romans sailed along the coasts of Northern Europe and the Arabian peninsula, until they were damned sure that there was land over the horizon. They only knew that because they'd crept along both sides of the Red Sea, the Arabian Gulf, and the North Sea. The Portuguese weren't able to get past Morocco until about the 1450s, because the currents carried them out of sight of land and they would always turn back, until Prince Henry the Navigator told them to get further south or else. No doubt the Chinese hugged the coasts of southern Asia until they knew about where India and Africa were, just as Columbus was willing to sail straight out over the Atlantic only because he believed that he'd run into Asia in six weeks or so. Luckily for Columbus, he ran into America.
Your faith in your own people must be pretty weak if it requires you to deny the obvious achievements of other peoples. The Chinese had no astronomers and no celestial navigation? Nonsense.
No, I'm not a sailor. Neither am I young enough to imagine that sailing the Great Lakes makes one an expert on crossing oceans.

Rusty Mason said...

Caiden prophesied:
"I'd say a few months after the fall, there will not be a single liberal left in the US."

No more liberals bad-mouthing me while they steal and destroy everything I have? What a wonderfully sustaining thought. Heaven is at hand, Brethren and Sistern!

Anonymous said...

Asians' reputation for high IQ is multiculti propaganda. The ones you see in your office may be a bit smarter than the average American, but they are self-selected immigrants and are skewing the Asian average here. I have lived and worked with Chinese, Taiwanese, Korean, Vietnamese, and East Indians for almost twenty years now, and I can tell you their reputation for smarts is undeserved. They are nice and relatively civilized, and the first and second generations work very hard. Their hard work is part of why they seem so smart -- they keep practicing until they finally get it right. They are not leaders but are pretty good followers (except the East Indians, which are mostly ignorant, arrogant obstructionists). They have difficulty conceptualizing complex problems and usually do not understand that they are not making sense or are in over their heads.

China is the way it is because it is full of Chinese people. Same with Mexico, same with India. Don't believe the hype about brilliant Easterners, they are average at best. A few good ones get way more press coverage than they deserve. Asians are nice to whites and will side with whites against Mexicans and blacks, but they stick together when the going gets tough, so don't think they will be your friends forever.

Western civilization cannot last without westerners (white people), simple as that. If we would work as hard as they do, you would immediately see who was the smarter, more imaginative and productive race.

Zenster said...

Anonymous (2/25, 2012 8:14 PM): If we would work as hard as they do, you would immediately see who was the smarter, more imaginative and productive race.

"If?"

US workers are world's most productive

America is the world's superpower for every best reason. Any questions?

Mr. Rational said...

RobertBYou don't really understand or know what a keel is, do you?

Only to the point of owning a couple of sailing craft, and having learned from the past few days of exchanges that "on an even keel" is something that you are not.

I don't do revisionist history, who's only purpose is to denigrate Western Heritage and accomplishment. You need to compare Apples to Apples and oranges to oranges.

Glad to hear it.  Now stop doing revisionist history and credit the Asians where credit is due, because underestimating them will get your behind kicked the same way the Germans underestimated American mountaineering in Italy and wound up being mortared from Riva Ridge.

Right now the Chinese are taking much better advantage of our flaws than we are of theirs.  As De Vauban wrote, some generals lost sieges because they attacked at a fort's strongest point rather than its weakest.  Others lost sieges because they let their defenses fall into disarray.  The Allies killed the Japanese war machine by starving it, primarily by cutting off oil.  We are in a similar state of dependency.  It's a big problem with lots of facets, and mere jingoism isn't going to cut it any more than indian war dances threw the White man out of North America.  You'll have to do better than that, so smarten up.

Discard said...

Zenster: Whites do not work as hard as Chinese, not at all. How many White factory workers regularly work six day weeks? Your average Chinese, laborer or student, puts far more hours in than the average White. I used to live and teach in New China (the San Gabriel Valley, east of Los Angeles). That is exactly how they have done so well, coupling moderate talent to hard labor.
U.S.. workers are more productive because they use better technology, not because they work harder. Anon at 8:14 is right, if we worked as hard as they do, (and dumped the burdens of the multi-cult), we'd make China look like Africa by comparison.

Zenster said...

Discard: Whites do not work as hard as Chinese, not at all.

Thank goodness for that. We work smarter and that's what makes us different from Chinese slave labor.