Thursday, June 24, 2010

#176. The Super Soaker


In the upcoming science-fiction film Inception, one of the main characters is heard to state:

“What's the most resilient parasite? An Idea. A single idea from the human mind can build cities. An idea can transform the world and rewrite all the rules. Which is why I have to steal it.”

Ideas lead to discovery, which in turn lead to innovations, ultimately giving us inventions that benefit humanity.

It is stated that life began in Africa and that humans migrated elsewhere, thus the Out of Africa Theory (OAT). Often maligned as The Dark Continent, those of African descent have been noticeably absent from any hard science fields when it comes to Nobel Prizes and worse, metallurgy never took off on a continent bestowed with untold resources. It was left to Europeans and now, the Chinese (those who evolved outside of Africa, if OAT is to be taken seriously) to mine these resources for human usage.

Prometheus is said to have stolen fire from the Gods and given it to man, an act he was eternally punished for and yet this divine spark was the mythical instigator for all human innovation.

Black people are painfully aware that Prometheus decided to impart that divine spark of fire unto white people, thereby depriving the earliest form of life (if OAT is taken seriously) any opportunity to create, innovate and eventually invent anything of lasting significance that has helped benefit the humanity:

Imagine some pathetic Euro-American activist grabbing your lapels and demanding,

"Did you know that Euro-Americans invented the airplane? [You nod.] Oh, you did? Well … did you know that Euro-Americans invented the golf cart? Huh? Huh, did you know you that?"

Well, duh, everybody knows—whether or not they're crass enough to mention it—that over the last 500 or 600 years, whites invented pretty much everything worth inventing. (And, of course, a lot that wasn’t.)

For his encyclopedic Modern Mind: An Intellectual History of the 20th Century, Peter Watson interviewed 150 scholars from around the world about who was responsible for the great innovations. Watson recounted that

"…all of them—there were no exceptions—said the same thing. In the 20th century, in the modern world, there were no non-western ideas of note."

Maybe this is a little unfair to the Japanese, whose Just-in-Time manufacturing was hugely important. And to some nonwhites in the West who came up with good ideas like jazz. Overall, though, the dominance of whites is just so hugely apparent that it's in bad taste to talk about it.

During Black History Month, Crusading White Pedagogues go to great links to elucidate the trivial inventions of Black people to the point of praising George Washington Carver for his contributions in furthering our knowledge of peanuts and multiple usages and applications of this delicious diminutive snack. Sadly, even these teachings are inaccurate.

A list of purported Black inventions is found here, though these touted accomplishments face scrutiny here. Black Invention Myths is a website dedicated to truth in a world where Fictional Black History Month Heroes are being drudged up from the bottom of seemingly endless sea of innovations brought to you solely by the Black mind:

Perhaps you've heard the claims: Were it not for the genius and energy of African-American inventors, we might find ourselves in a world without traffic lights, peanut butter, blood banks, light bulb filaments, and a vast number of other things we now take for granted but could hardly imagine life without.

Such beliefs usually originate in books or articles about black history. Since many of the authors have little interest in the history of technology outside of advertising black contributions to it, their stories tend to be fraught with misunderstandings, wishful thinking, or fanciful embellishments with no historical basis. The lack of historical perspective leads to extravagant overestimations of originality and importance: sometimes a slightly modified version of a pre-existing piece of technology is mistaken for the first invention of its type; sometimes a patent or innovation with little or no lasting value is portrayed as a major advance, even if there's no real evidence it was ever used.

Unfortunately, some of the errors and exaggerations have acquired an illusion of credibility by repetition in mainstream outlets, especially during Black History Month (see examples for the traffic light and ironing board). When myths go unchallenged for too long, they begin to eclipse the truth. Thus I decided to put some records straight. Although this page does not cover every dubious invention claim floating around out there, it should at least serve as a warning never to take any such claim for granted.

Well, Black-Inventor.com is one of the best tools for researching Black inventions as they provide links, unlike numerous websites that purport to highlight inventors who hail from The Dark Continent.

Sadly, insufficient evidence is cited which can credibly confirm any of the aforementioned inventions that came from the fertile soil of the African mind (Ancient Egypt was not Nubian, to the dismay of Afro-centrists everywhere).

However, one such innovation is credited to a Black person which Black people collectively can take credit for and relish in the notion that one innovation is fully documented as theirs: The Super Soaker.

This toy gun, when filled with water, has the ability to supply children with endless hours of fun and we owe its creation to Lonnie Johnson:

Lonnie Johnson has some impressive hard science credentials.

He’s worked for the Strategic Air Command and for NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory, engineering missions to Mars, Jupiter and Saturn. He holds more than 100 patents, many of them in that arcane spot where chemistry, electricity and physics cross into future technology. He invented a chip that converts solar heat to electric current

Now Johnson, a nuclear engineer is introducing a new generation of rechargeable battery technology that could revolutionize the, cell phone, pacemaker and plug-in electric car.

But among the crowd of aspiring engineering students, their parents and some of Los Angeles’ top names in engineering, Lonnie Johnson is still known as Mr. Squirt Gun, inventor of the Super Soaker water gun.

“What, cried UC Riverside engineering students Ebube Agu, Kevin Mitton and Nkenge Wheatian “He invented the Super Soaker”? The students were among those gathered at the Proud Bird Restaurant for the Los Angeles Council of Black Professional Engineers’ 31st annual awards and scholarship banquet.

Keynote speaker Johnson, 61, doesn’t mind if he’s better known for watery mayhem than rocket science.

Perhaps that’s because more than $1 billion worth of Super Soakers have sold since 2007. His share (he licensed the Soaker’s design to Larami Toys, later bought by Hasbro) won him financial independence to pursue his own dreams and ideas which is how his Atlanta based Johnson Research and Development Company was born.

“It all started with an accident,” Johnson told the crowd.

The Super Soaker toy gun is the most important contribution to humanity that can be credibly linked to being solely the innovation of a Black individuals mind, thus it can truly be celebrated by Black people everywhere as a profound sign of their inestimable value:

No one could mistake Lonnie Johnson for a crackpot tinkerer. The Atlanta toy inventor knew he had something special when he let his children play with the pump-and-nozzle apparatus he had fashioned. "The other kids in the neighborhood," he says, "just had regular water pistols."

Johnson first got the idea for the Super Soaker in 1982, while he was still in the Air Force. "I was experimenting with inventions that used water instead of Freon as a refrigeration fluid," he recalls. "As I was shooting water through a high-pressure nozzle into the bathtub, I thought that it would make a neat water pistol. From that point, it was an engineering problem."

In March 1989, Johnson visited the Larami Corp. booth at the American International Toy Fair held at New York City's Jacob K. Javits Convention Center. But, he was in a wary mood for deal-making, bringing with him a history of disappointing ventures with manufacturers who had licensed his previous ideas. "I didn't have a nondisclosure agreement with me," he recalls, "so I talked very superficially. I just said I had an idea for a new type of water gun and asked if they would be interested."

Millions of children can thank Mr. Johnson for this invention, as he helped progress toy military technology by 50 years and ushered in a new era of water-based weaponry that few can hope to replicate. Every other innovation, well... we think you know who to thank.

Sadly, the invention of the Super Soaker is an albatross for Black inventors as so few other innovations have come from the innovative minds of Black people (Robert Johnson did found Black Entertainment Television, but this innovation has done little to improve the quality of life for anyone who watches the channel).

Lonnie Johnson has placed a heavy burden upon Black people (especially Black inventors) by inventing the Super Soaker, a device of such overwhelming importance that one can scarcely imagine a time when such an innovation wasn’t help wreck havoc in backyards across Whitopia’s everywhere.

Stuff Black People Don’t Like includes the Super Soaker. Lonnie Johnson’s invention is a sad reminder that unlike the character Leonardo DiCaprio will portray in the upcoming film Inception, Black people can’t steal inventions as he can dreams for their own benefit.

Only in movies are such innovations brought to us by Black people. Save the Super Soaker, of course.









82 comments:

Hilarity Ensues said...

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otis_Boykin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patricia_Bath
http://www.iaimuseum.org/i_markdean.html
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http://www.iaimuseum.org/i_charlesdrew.html
http://www.iaimuseum.org/i_williamhubbard.html
http://www.iaimuseum.org/i_elijahmccoy.html
http://www.jazzistry.org/timeline.html
http://www.answers.com/topic/who-invented-jazz
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081011082132AAIGmvs

And, again:

A short list: The wheel, language, writing, rafts, weapons, clothing, tools, traps, the marked stick for measuring, ways of making fire and smelting copper and iron, the baby sling, the iron machete, papyrus, the earliest form of writing paper, the game of Chess originated in Africa and then spread to Persia and India, irrigation, mummification and methods of preserving the deceased such as petroleum which is still used as a preservative today, mining, using cotton as a fabric, instruments such as the fiddle, the slit gong, the thumb piano, the harp, bows, modern conveniences such as soap, ceramics, hair braiding, domestication of animals, systems of higher education (universities began in Timbuktu), mathematics, masks, archery, walking upright and it is possible to continue, but in all honesty I'm not that concerned with what modern western innovations black people have accomplished (like the space shuttle retrieval arm), you can find that information on your own. It means very little to me as my views on what constitutes culture and advancement are obviously quite different from your own.

Hirsch said...

It's funny to compare the story of Lonnie Johnson to that of Dr. Kalashnikov, who basically got nothing since his invention was created under the old Soviet system and he therefore didn't hold the rights to the patent of the AK-47 he created.

As far as magic Negroes go, this guy seems pretty much above reproach. He could be doing Geico commercials, playing God in various movies, or dare I say it...running for President of the United States?

This post shouldn't inspire too much negativity on either side of the aisle.

Hilarty Ensues said...

And SBPDL, have fun continuing to post anonymously. Nuendo is open. Firefox is closed.

Anonymous said...

http://www.africahistory.net/
http://www.africanphilosophy.com/
http://www.africanphilosophy.com/vol1.1/morton.html
http://www.africanphilosophy.com/issue3/alumona.html
http://www.africanphilosophy.com/issue2/brodnicka.html
http://faculty.msmc.edu/lindeman/af.html
http://www.authorsden.com/visit/viewarticle.asp?AuthorID=1217&id=4765
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwame_Gyekye
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_philosophy
http://www.amazon.com/Essay-African-Philosophical-Thought-Conceptual/dp/1566393809
http://www.historyforkids.org/learn/africa/science/
http://www.historyforkids.org/learn/africa/science/numbers.htm
http://wysinger.homestead.com/ancientafrica.html
http://wysinger.homestead.com/kerma.html
http://wysinger.homestead.com/ironage.html
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http://knol.google.com/k/peopling-of-the-nile-valley#
http://egyptsearchreloaded.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=egyto&action=display&thread=15
http://wysinger.homestead.com/nubian105.html
http://www.metmuseum.org/special/Genesis/tattersall_lecture.asp
http://wysinger.homestead.com/article10.html
http://wysinger.homestead.com/nubians2.html
http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2003/649/he1.htm

"The record of the Cro-Magnons is truly extraordinary (see White, 1986). Over 30,000 years ago they had already begun to leave extraordinary art on the walls of caves (Fig. 4; see also Chauvet Cave* and Lascaux Cave*). At the same time bone flutes of complex sound capabilities announce the advent of music (Fig. 5). And if these people made music (see examples of the earliest playable prehistoric bone flutes from East Asia*), surely they sang and danced as well. Markings on bone plaques (Fig. 6) clearly represent systems of notation, perhaps even lunar calendars. Burials were often complex, and crammed with grave goods. And some of the most beautifully observed and crafted sculptures* ever made date from this time. Notable among these is the tiny Vogelherd horse (Fig. 7) carved from mammoth ivory, perhaps the earliest art object known at around 34,000 years old. This exquisite piece is no simple rendition of the chunky horses of the Ice Age European steppes; instead, it is a quintessentially symbolic piece: an abstraction of the graceful essence of the horse. At the same time, technology became more complex and started on a course of constant change and innovation. By 26,000 years and more ago, bone needles (Fig. 8) announce the advent of tailoring, and equally early on ceramic technology was invented, figurines (Fig. 9) being baked in simple but remarkably effective kilns. Hunting became more complex, and fish and bird bones show up abundantly for the first time in food refuse.*

The list of Cro-Magnon achievements could go on and on, but the point is already evident: these people were us, possessed of a sensibility totally unprecedented in all the hominid history I've briefly reviewed (for greater detail see Tattersall, 1998). However, as I intimated earlier, this extraordinary record from Europe shows the human capacity already fully fledged. And quite evidently, this intellectual facility did not emerge in Europe. It was brought with them by the Cro-Magnons, whose new qualities had emerged elsewhere. Probably this was in Africa, for it is from this continent that we have not just the first suggestions of the emergence of modern anatomical structure, but of modern behaviors as well.*"

-http://www.metmuseum.org/special/Genesis/tattersall_lecture.asp?page=3

Anonymous said...

"African Americans who must work with historical and philosophical texts face a dilemma. On one hand they wish to make use of the information contained in the texts they study; but they must at the same time be aware that the information is often tainted by views which define as universal things which are not. And when they examine these supposed universals, they discover that the latter’s proponents are Europeans who did not intend for their universals to include non-Europeans. Furthermore, they find that those who are not included in the universals have been consciously excluded and that this exclusion has provided the justification for racial events and theories which set-up the framework for white supremacy in history, politics, and scholarship.

In this paper I analyze one example of extreme exclusion: that of blacks in the works of the British philosopher, David Hume (1711--1776), who published most of his works between 1734 and 1760. The main body of the paper has two parts, and an addendum in lieu of a conclusion. First I locate Hume in the historical context of eighteenth century theorizing on racial matters when Europe was confronted with the moral dilemma posed by its exploitive relationship with Africa and the Americas. Next I juxtapose Hume’s theories on human nature with his racial law, which Hume included an infamous footnote in his essay, Of National Characters. There he claimed that there are moral causes that tend to transform whites from a barbarous state to a civilized one, whereas nature does not allow this to happen to blacks."

-http://www.africanphilosophy.com/vol1.1/morton.html


"South Africa is now a few years into her new political dispensation, and she is grappling with the same issues that have plagued Africa since independence especially the challenge of organizing society on the basis of social justice. Painfully aware of the failures of those countries that attained political independence before her, South Africa is exploring all possible political models that might suit her situation. Diverse political theories have been tried in Africa's political life, most of which were transplants from the West. In this connection, South Africa stands a unique chance to break new ground in the creation of a better system of democracy informed by her history, the present political conditions, and what has obtained, and still obtains in the name of democracy in post-independence, or post-colonial Africa. To this end, I will argue that the adoption of traditional institutions, which were neglected in favour of wholesale classical democracy and other alien ideologies, will go a long way in assisting us in fashioning a dispensation unique to our situation. My plea is for an Afrocentric cultural renaissance. South Africa is a young nation with an identity crisis, trying its best to find its feet. Thus critical inputs by citizens and a responsive government could only assist South Africa to grow a better understanding of itself as a nation state. South Africa is unique in that here the African and Western streams meet and can flow together harmoniously. Despite this harmony, the Afro-centric cultural dimension is calling for more respect and space to express itself positively. A contextual democracy responding to South African actuality ought to be developed."

-http://www.africanphilosophy.com/vol1.1/teffo.html

Anonymous said...

"African people made the earliest, and the most important, scientific inventions. The earliest tools, the earliest use of fire, and the earliest use of numbers are all from Africa. People in Africa began to make their own stone tools about 1.9 million years ago, before they even got their big brains. They probably figured out how to use fire about 800,000 years ago (or maybe a little earlier). By about 250,000 years ago, early people evolved into modern people. Around 60,000 BC, African explorers left Africa and settled India and Australia, and then West Asia, Europe, and China.

The Africans who stayed behind in Africa - the large majority of people alive at that time - continued to think up new inventions. Around 50,000 BC, they began to make fish-hooks, for instance.

By around 35,000 BC, African people were using tally sticks to keep track of numbers. Ten thousand years later, about 25,000 BC, people in Africa were using bows and arrows to hunt animals to eat, and maybe also to defend themselves against their enemies.

In later Africa, women were more involved in science and technology than they were in Greece or Rome or West Asia. Women were responsible for the early pottery industry, and also for iron smelting when Africans began to smelt iron, and also for a lot of cloth manufacturing. Both women and men were involved in African medicine.

In North Africa, however, this attitude changed when the Phoenicians and then the Romans took over. The Phoenicians and Romans did not want women to be involved in science. And in the 700's AD, when the Islamic Empire conquered North Africa and began to trade a lot with East Africa, they also did not allow women to be involved in science or medicine.

But there were a lot of men in North Africa and East Africa, and in the area around Timbuktu, who were scientists and doctors between 700 and 1500 AD. Thanks to their common religion, Islam, all of these men were able to communicate in Arabic, so they could find out about new treatments and ideas, and they frequently travelled both within Africa and to West Asia and India and even sometimes to China.

In South Africa and Central Africa, people didn't have so much contact with other places, and here women kept on being involved with science and medicine. Among the San, for instance, both women and men learned to identify hundreds of plants that could be used for medicine."

-http://www.historyforkids.org/learn/africa/science/

Anonymous said...

Absolutely Brilliant!

Desiree (anticipating the Revolution) said...

Good God, man, what a hateful post!

I mean, really hateful, guy.

I thought there was no such thing as the White Collective (which is why you hate White Watch, because they assume there is a collective White, no?)?

And here you are, having not invented a damned thing besides a new way to scratch your ass everyday, trumpeting other white 'individuals' accomplishments as your own.

This black man created something. Something friggin' awesome, I might add! (Perfect toy for the hot Las Vegas summer) And you are downing it?

LOL...white people need to figure out which side they want to be on. You shouldn't have the right to be convenient.

I've said this all before: white people are 'individuals' when something done by one of their members is bad (hence the dislike/jeering of White Watch); they are a collective unit when something done by one of their members is good (ie. the Tuohys).

Hey, I'm white, too! My grandpappy be white! Can I claim white inventions, too? Pretty please?

Idiots...

Anonymous said...

SBPDL #1

IRONY.

Porter said...

To the proprietor, I apologize for this off-topic post.

To the blacks now visiting this site and generously offering their wisdom to the benighted, I commend the following to your thoughtful consideration.

1) When you debate please use some vaguely recognizable form of doing so. Whites often employ structures such as a thesis, descriptive narrative, and documented support. Stream of consciousness riffing, on the other hand, makes our blue eyes glaze over.

2) If you have a point, make it concisely. No one is going to read a 500 word paragraph--even one which blooms from your own fertile mind. Take an example from my hero and yours, Biggie: "First things first, I poppa freaks all the honeys, dummies, playboy bunnies, those wantin’ money."

And just that quickly we know he engages in sexual congress with all manner of available females. Take note.

3) No one cares about you. Your life story is no-doubt one of magnificent inspiration. As such it should hold your mother, dog, parole officer, prison guard, and crack dealer in rapt attention. These are all special relationships. Each would only be tarnished by divulging intimate details of your struggle to the strangers here.

In summary: Share your insights, not your bowel movements.

Anonymous said...

My personal favorite black tactic... if you can't blind 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em with bullshit.

Thankfully fewer and fewer whites are being baffled these days, they're just flat out disgusted by the whole game. A game that consists of a continuous dance to shift blame and avoid personal responsibility for anything.

I don't need lots and lots of links. I only need one, it explains everything in a nutshell.

Check out page 19
http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/pim09st.pdf

Thanks!

Anonymous said...

I find the laundry list of "inventions" claimed to have been made by Africans rather ludicrous due to the fact that to this day they cannot even manage a 7-11 in their "magical" country. Too bad they cannot muster an IQ much above 70 or so. I guess mutilating female genitalia, drinking cow menses, chopping of each others arms and noses, and fathers deflowering their daughters is as inventive as they get these days. But I guess if one lives in a brainwashed fairy-tale land anything may be possible.

Anonymous said...

LOL Hillary is still trying to convince everyone of black genius.

Ya gotta love persistence.

Hey Hillary, how many minds have you changed???

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Anonymous said...

Prediction:

Hillary will post yet another 12 paragraph diatribe that no one will read.

Hirsch said...

Hilarity Ensues pretty much destroys any argument (s)he could make by listing "Wikipedia" among his or her sources. There are many lies in the post of hilarity ensues, but I'll pick out one of the most glaring:

Chess originated in India and was known as Chaturanga.

But giving Hilarity (ironic choice of names) the benefit of the doubt for a moment, to say that Africans invented chess would not necessarily be a compliment to Africans.

Consider: Basketball was invented by a white man, (James Naismith) yet no one would consider it to be a sport dominated by whites, nor would anyone try to deny that blacks ushered in the versatile and multidimensional game as it's played today. The same goes for chess.

Even if Africans whittled the first pieces and established the rules, would anyone, even a deluded black revisionist, really try to claim that the greatest chess-masters were African or black. Kasperov, Lasker, Fisher, etc. could annihilate any black man foolish enough to step to the board with them.

Hilarity Ensues may have the links, but you have to consider the source. Anyone who believes "yahoo answers," is the place to cull material for a debate also deserves to look as stupid as Hilarity Ensues does today.

CWN said...

Obviously this guy did not have a black wife.No water.

Black women do not wash their hair very often. Maybe once a month. Because it is too much trouble.

My mother told me once of a black woman she worked with. This black woman was shocked that my mother washed her hair every day. The black woman said that she only washed hers once a month. Which is extremely nasty. But when you have black hair and all that crap in it, weaves, braided up, and whatever else, it cannot be washed easily every night. You think that whoopie goldberg washes her massive nest everynight? Not hardly.

I also remember, in highschool. A black chick, she had facial hair, more then me. Side burns, a mustache, some chin hair. Did she ever wax it off? nope. And guess what, her black boyfriend didn't seem to mind. All very nasty stuff. I used to wonder what she was, half man? Nope, just black.

Hygene is not on the top of the list for blacks. Infact it might be something they do not like. I don't know.

Desiree (anticipating the Revolution) said...

@Porter:

"Whites often employ structures such as a thesis, descriptive narrative, and documented support."

LOL--so I guess there are certain individuals on here who claim whiteness but aren't, as well? *cough*CWN*cough* <--I always knew he was black; hey, boo!

"makes our blue eyes glaze over."

You just discriminated against white people with brown/green/hazel eyes. There is no need for that type of intra-racial bigotry, guy. This is supposed to be a safe place for tender, slightly emasculated white men and 'gilded pedestal'-loving white women. I'm sensitive to their pain... You'd do well by being kind to Massa and Missus.

"If you have a point, make it concisely. No one is going to read a 500 word paragraph"

This is probably true but your refusal to read does not change the fact that what is written within is the Truth, bringing the Knowledge. Your ADD/ADHD appeals to our extraordinary levels of empathy.

"No one cares about you. Your life story is no-doubt one of magnificent inspiration. As such it should hold your mother, dog, parole officer, prison guard, and crack dealer in rapt attention."

LOL! Denying our Humanity. Wonderful. See, here's the thing: you know that the vast majority of us aren't statistics. You know this. Is this why you're angry? Better be careful; your bubble's bursting...it's scary out in the real world.

"Share your insights, not your bowel movements."

Ditto. So that means no personal anecdotes of how some random, virile black man stole your precious white girlfriend, or your wallet (because we already know your pathetic hatred is knee-jerk, alright?). No crybaby sob stories, please. Those bowel movements have a God awful stench!


You beez one smart ass white boy, kid. *rolls eyes*


Hilarity and Anonymous: Tell 'em! ;-)

Anonymous said...

"Those bowel movements have a God awful stench!"

That's your breath.

Porter said...

Desiree, I was actually speaking to the newly arriving members of your troop.

As for yourself, I haven't the faintest interest in attempting to decipher the primitive patois of clicks, grunts, emoticons, acronyms, and personal navel gazing which are the hallmarks of your mindless, monotonous drivel.

Though--to speak in your native tongue--I will say in response to your last comment:

ROTFSTCLMAAOBPO

(Rolling On The Floor Scaring The Cat Laughing My Ass And Other Body Parts Off)

CWN said...

"LOL--so I guess there are certain individuals on here who claim whiteness but aren't, as well? *cough*CWN*cough* <--I always knew he was black; hey, boo!"

Cough *ad hominem* Cough. Nothing like a random shot out of the blue. Listen, I know that I am wonderful, but try and keep your mind on the topic at hand.

"Lawdy dis white boy sure be fine."

I am not one of your teachers.

Anonymous said...

Desiree:

Do you like it when white people refer to black males as "black boy"?

If not, then please have the decency not to refer to white males as "white boy".

Stuff Black People Don't Like said...

Lost in all of this is the excellent contribution to the childhood experience that Mr. Lonnie Johnson helped bring about through his invention.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYFma2IDwak

The Super Soaker is a device that can be credibly linked to being a device created by a Black person.

Posting links that try and claim innovations and inventions attributed to long lost Nubian Tribes is embarrassing.

I myself haven't invented anything as of yet, but it is interesting to think that Black people must dig through the recesses of an imaginary history to come up with inventions that no shred of credible evidence supports, just to feel better about themselves for some long lost - and fictional - invention.

The wheel? Paper? Language? Come on.

As the quoted article from Steve Sailer, it would be wrong for white people to go around bragging about all the creations that have come from fellow white people, since just about everything that we see around us was created by a white person.

Oh, even AIDs right?

The Super Soaker is a legitimate creation by a Black individual. Celebrate that device.

During Black History Month, this device should be celebrated with the utmost dignity and reverence.

This might reveal my age, but I was quite young when the first Super Soaker 100 came available and can thank Mr. Johnson for his wonderful invention as his gift to mankind gave me hours upon hours of endless fun, torturing friends with steady streams of water.

God Bless the Super Soaker.

Anonymous said...

"Lost in all of this"

That's the goal of trolls.

CWN said...

Hey SBPDL,

Did you get the idea for this article from this link below?

http://www.alternativeright.com/main/blogs/district-of-corruption/the-glenn-beck-deception/

Hirsch said...

@ CWN

I don't see how you can accuse Desiree of ad hominem attacks when you devoted an entire post to the subject of how black girls don't wash their hair, and how you personally knew one with facial hair. People used to say the same sort of hurtful thing about Greek women. Did you not read the previous post about commenting rules?

Your fetish for fuzzy black women is in no way related to the topic, which is Super Soakers.

Here is another rule they should make. Larry the Cable Guy may no longer be allowed to log into SBPDL under the name of CWN. Also, anyone who was not familiar with the term "ad hominem" before watching an episode of The O'Reilley Factor doesn't get to use the word anymore.

Back to the La-Z Boy, you bold fresh piece of humanity.

Hilarity Continues said...

"Anyone who believes "yahoo answers," is the place to cull material for a debate also deserves to look as stupid as Hilarity Ensues does today."

It wasn't for you. It was for any black person that might stumble across this and experience a moment of doubt. Obviously you didn't go to the link. It is an article quoted from www.allaboutjazz.com which I wasn't able to find quickly on their site, although a Google search turned up link to Yahoo Answers which contained the desired text. Fail.

And Wikipedia is nothing more than a starting point that can lead into all manners of independent research if you're diligent. But you'd rather pretend like you know what you're talking about.

"Chess originated in India and was known as Chaturanga."

Funny, I found a site claiming whites originated the game of chess:
http://mistrealm.com/Chess/EarliestChessGamesByBillWall.htm

White people would NEVER be dishonest though. Right?

There are indeed African origins in the game of chess:

"http://www.thechessdrum.net/blog/2008/02/15/author-claims-african-origins-of-chess-2/"

The Indians, whose culture I love and am extremely familiar with, had their own variations. From that form the version we play in the west today arose, but not before Africans had their own ideas. The Moors also brought many of their own games to Spain when they conquered it.

I never claimed blacks dominated chess in the public eye, but that is fairly immaterial anyhow, as the public eye is generally blind. My concern is not, as yours seems to be, who dominates what. My concern was crushing the argument that black people exhibited no creativity.

It might help your cause better if you actually read any of the links I posted.

Stuff Black People Don't Like said...

CWN,

No, this has been on list for a long time, I just wasn't sure how to utilize it properly. All the talk by Mr. Hilarity Ensues about Black inventions finally caused an idea to formulate in my mind.

However, I greatly admire Richard Spencer and have co-wrote a piece there with him.

I did get the link to the video from that site, however. It is a hilarious link.

A friend put it succinctly to me about six months:

"All around us rest devices that white people created -the airplanes flying overhead and the cars being driven - yet the Super Soaker is testament to the false monopoly white people claim on inventions."

Hilarity Continues said...

CWN: all this pontificating on hygiene coming from one whose ancestors are responsible for The Dark Ages? You're cute. Have you been to Alabama or Mississippi? I have. I lived in Mississippi. It's not pretty. Not anymore. And your tendency to generalize on the habits of an entire race based on the (temporarily perceived) actions of one or two individuals, even 1 or 2 thousand, is laughable.

Your rhetoric is amusing. A 7-11? Who cares?

Hilarity Continues said...

"Even if Africans whittled the first pieces and established the rules, would anyone, even a deluded black revisionist, really try to claim that the greatest chess-masters were African or black. Kasperov, Lasker, Fisher, etc. could annihilate any black man foolish enough to step to the board with them."

First, have you ever been to Washington Square Park? I have. You could learn a lot from a visit.

Second: "Around 700, Sa'id bin Jubair (665-714), a black African judge who lived in the Middle East, became famous for his ablity to play blindfold chess. He became the first blindfold player to turn his back on the board and play without sight of the board. Earlier blindfold players continued to feel the pieces while playing blindfold. Jubair was later condemned to death for his part in a revolt."
-http://WWW.CHESS.COM/article/view/origins-of-chess

So your ideas are foolish. Just as there are excellent white basketball players, there are excellent black chess players.

Anonymous said...

"[A]ll this pontificating on hygiene coming from one whose ancestors are responsible for The Dark Ages?"

Why, you vicious little racist! So just because he's white, you assume that his ancestors caused The Dark Ages? Even if that were true, what do his ancestors have to do with anything? Leave his ancestral heritage out of it, you hateful, racist, under-educated boor!

Anonymous said...

I love your site SBPDL! Keep it up!

Hilarity Continues said...

"Posting links that try and claim innovations and inventions attributed to long lost Nubian Tribes is embarrassing."

I'm not embarrassed at all. There are long lost Nubian tribes whose history is downplayed, marginalized and ignored by many western scholars with an embarrassing regularity.

The Africans, Egyptians and the Chinese were the first inventors of paper, papyrus, used for writing. Ancient Egyptians were quite obviously a beautiful mix of Semitic and Nubian blood while many Egyptians were black Africans. I have a few older friends FROM Egypt, both black and tan, and BOTH call themselves African Egyptians. Emphatically. And both are very intelligent, speaking multiple languages fluently and with great animation. They are Muslim and though I am not we are still able to relate on a large number of differing issues, only one of which is the sad and shameful state of western affairs. That Africa and Egypt are intimately connected and that Nubians and Egyptians both exerted massive amounts of mutual influence on each others civilizations is indisputable.

On language:

-http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/african-click-language-holds-key-to-origins-of-earliest-human-speech-591505.html

And if you think languages containing clicks are somehow less valid than the various phonemic utterances of other cultures you are very ignorant and biased indeed.

And yes, I do believe AIDS was man-made and did not stem from Africans fucking monkeys. So do many (white) scholars and doctors. This is not merely a black conspiracy, but perhaps you haven't been able to stop focusing on how much you dislike black people for long enough to realize this. Expand your mind:

http://www.aidsorigins.com/
http://www.ariesrisingpress.com/
http://ariesrisingpress.com/books/
http://infidelguy.libsyn.com/index.php?post_id=199049
http://web.archive.org/web/20070718112448/http://www.tetrahedron.org/index.html
http://web.archive.org/web/20061202014456/www.lightstreamers.com/horowitz/horowitz_hepatitis_b_vaccine.htm
http://www.redicecreations.com/specialreports/2005/11nov/AIDSorigins.html

Just because you disagree doesn't make it false. And if you haven't even taken the time to thoroughly study and consider alternative hypotheses then...well, that speaks for itself, really.

Hirsch said...

@Hilarity...

"And Wikipedia is nothing more than a starting point that can lead into all manners of independent research if you're diligent. But you'd rather pretend like you know what you're talking about."

Do you know what I do when I'm feeling "diligent", Hilarity? I don't go through twenty user-edited links posted by someone at a blog. You know what I do? I read books or take courses. Believe it or not, some of us actually had a small bit of knowledge before you began shining your mellifluous beams of internet wisdom down upon us.

You also said:

"Funny, I found a site claiming whites originated the game of chess:
http://mistrealm.com/Chess/EarliestChessGamesByBillWall.htm

White people would NEVER be dishonest though. Right"

Here is where your arrogance dovetails into hypocrisy. An internet site claimed that whites invented chess, you say? I myself know that isn't true. But wait, did this site originate from that very same internet where you culled your information? You mean that not everything said on the internet is true? Surely all sources that agree with your position are credible, like the 20 you provided me, and all that disagree with your position are false.

"The public eye is generally blind."

Thank God I have Hilarity to remove the sty from my Caucasian cyclops eye! I would be blind without your deluge of websites.

The next time you wish to take up virtual space with your cited sources, do me a favor. Just cut and paste the entire Yellow Pages from your city's local telephone directory.

I have very little doubt that you won't respond to this. You are as predictable and persistent as a chatbot on this blog now, despite claims to being above the fray, and promises that you had washed your hands of the debate. For all I know you're not even an individual, but a program created by some bitter mid-level IT factotum in a cubicle, sent out to annoy people, with links to black inventions substituted for weight-loss spam and mortgage refinance ads.

As for the speciousness of your researches, I would like to repay the favor. I just typed "Jesus was a woman," into Google. Please research these links and get back to me, as I am curious as to how she hid her sex from the apostles:

http://www.godweb.org/Jesuswasawoman.htm

http://halife.com/church/jesuswoman.html

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=30604

http://andreaskluth.org/2009/06/21/was-jesus-black-jewish-or-female/

Anonymous said...

A supersoaker simply uses what is known in hydraulics as an accumulator, which is something that has been around a very long time. No new invention there just a new application.

Sheila said...

Well SBPDL, I have been reading for a number of weeks now, and although it started out promisingly, your site has been totally hijacked by the melanin-enriched community that I try to avoid as much as possible in everyday life. If I crave what passes for intellectual debate or lighthearted humor on their end, there are numerous black or mainstream (same difference) sites I could choose to troll. As you seem totally okay with their essentially having taken over your comment thread, I must presume this is a direction you encourage - which means not only am I not welcome here, but I don't really want to continue visiting either. Like those venues which use classical music and dress codes (a la some previous posts of yours) to discourage enriched visitors, when/if you adopt such rules of engagement for your site, it might be worth revisiting. In the meantime, thank you for the useful abbreviation "BRA."

Anonymous said...

Whether or not blacks invented language and writing as Desiree posted-- they certainly have not been using either since their invention.

Blacks do however still have a strong love of the 'iron machete'

Porter said...

Beyond the few four to five-sigma exceptions, blacks are simply incapable of logical thought.

For example...

Hilarity (indeed), the "Dark Ages" is a term used to describe an epoch in the history of white Europeans. Thus none others could be "responsible" for it by definition. In comparison, the whole of black African existence has been a dark ages--and continues as such today. We'll apologize for our limitations of eight centuries ago when you apologize for blacks being incapable of even feeding themselves today.

As for Alabama and Mississippi, what about them? Like every state with a high percentage of blacks they suffer from crime, corruption, and a multitude of social pathologies endemic to your race everywhere. And just like practically every other locale, the white areas are comparatively safe, productive, and livable.

And as for generalizing on the actions of one or two thousand being laughable. Would generalizing on the actions of one or two million be equally absurd? What of one or two hundred million? Pick a number, the behavior and resulting society is the same.

Stuff Black People Don't Like said...

Hang in there Sheila... I'm going to make some changes in the policy soon.

Freedom of speech is one thing, but writing blatantly false statements that lack any credible evidence to support such a claim is another.

I have been amused by some of the posters, but am growing tired of reading the same arguments over and over again.

Thank you for visiting though, and I hope you'll consider sticking around. The one problem we have that keeps America and the West from restoring order to this nation is our belief in freedom of speech and the Anglo-Saxon Rule of Law.

These no longer exits in the real-world, so why should they exist at this blog?

Trying to be fair and equitable brought us to this situation we are in today, so perhaps it is time to take a page out of the Rudyard Kipling playbook... what was that poem he wrote about "The Awakened Saxon"???

I'm not okay with the hijacking, but hoped for meaningful dialogue. Such has not arisen.

Hilarity Continues said...

"Do you know what I do when I'm feeling "diligent", Hilarity? I don't go through twenty user-edited links posted by someone at a blog. You know what I do? I read books or take courses."

I'm not talking about user-edited links, Hirsch. I'm talking about SOURCES, those books you mentioned. And Wikipedia is merely a form of scrying to me. I said it was a STARTING POINT, not a feedback loop. And the truth is far from the internet being my only source. The MAJORITY of my links were NOT to a wiki page. But that was all conveniently ignored in favor of going for the easiest target. I read a lot of books, essays and articles as well. Reading has always been one of my favorite pastimes.

And I know you had a "small bit" of knowledge before I came around. If you read my links, and their sources, and their sources sources, then you'd have a larger bit. Regardless of what conclusions you drew from them. But you don't even do this.

I never said the internet WAS a bastion of Truth, so how is that hypocrisy? The links are provided to expand the debate. Had you followed the links you would see that many offer BOOKS for sale. Either way, they weren't FOR YOU, as I have already stated. When I'm on the internet commenting at a blog that uses many links to other sites on the internet throughout its posts and I in turn provide further links within my comments I feel quite comfortable with that and frankly I don't see what your problem is.

The public is often largely unaware of many and varied truths and debates. This is simply true. And I never claimed to be removing any sty from your Caucasian Cyclopean eye, either. Hubris. I am merely widening the scope of the content. Again, that you might disagree is absolutely inconsequential as disagreement is essential for there to be any form of debate in the first place.

As to your links: Not only were they not even funny (I visited and read all of them) but they have absolutely no relation to any of the links I posted myself. Had you investigated you would have known. You masquerade as if you were concerned with truth yet merely berate my posts with derogatory language, ad hominem abusive attacks, circular reasoning and the fallacy of petitio principii. "Black people are uncreative because they haven't created most western innovations and the reason they haven't created most western innovations is because they are uncreative." Or "White people are the most creative because they have created most western innovations and the reason they have created most western innovations is because they are creative."

Classical.

CWN said...

Hirsch,

I have never said anything negative to you. So don't go and jump on my ass all of a sudden. Making references to larry the cable guy, and that type of nonsense. You can do better.

I am sorry if you are an elitist. But don't turn on your own like some filthy liberal. It is unbecoming and really makes my ass twitch.

If you like defending black hygene then just tell me. I really couldn't care less about Greeks and their large ugly noses anyway. ARe you greek? jew? Both have large unseemly noses.

And leave the humor to the younger crowd, old man. Thanks. Bub bye.

Hilarity said...

Concerning the dark ages comment I made, I do apologize to those who took offense because my intentions were not to offend. However, I find it ironic a people whose history contains many of the same things they berate others for then neglect to observe the possibility that, EVEN IF those elements were actually proliferated throughout the entire group they denigrate, there is room for change in the future. Even if.

Hirsch admirably countered that, and I commend her/him for it, though I wasn't aware of that counteraction when I wrote my comment.

However, Porter reinforced the spirit of CWNs original comment by claiming that all of Africa's history has been a Dark Age. Patently false. Africa still has many clean and beautiful areas where the tribes live in relative harmony with the land.

If you can't realize that the very nature of your comments is offensive and inspires anger in return then I don't know what to say. You are offended by the actions of what you insist is the majority of black people, when the majority of black people live nowhere near you (generally, I'm sure of it), you pretend as if though a people can exist in a vacuum and that responsibility falls squarely on the shoulders of one side in an obviously two-party equation. You will rather predictably attract opposition. Every action REQUIRES an equal and opposite reaction. This is the way of nature.

And now I'm reading of talk of possible censorship and further exclusion. I am not surprised that this began when I arrived. I am not sure if I have in some small part contributed to or detracted from my original stance that not all racists were also, of necessity, proud proponents of censorship. I will not lose any sleep over it, however.

So it seems that you feel my links and statements are blatantly false and lack any credible evidence because they undermine your position. And since they undermine your position not only are they "blatant and false and lack[ing] any credible evidence" but they are also worthy of censorship and devoid of all meaning.

So be it.

Anonymous said...

"I do believe AIDS was man-made and did not stem from Africans fucking monkeys. So do many (white) scholars and doctors."

LOL Hillary loves to support her theories with "there are whites who agree with me".

Funny.

Hilarity said...

And what of the comment I made before this one? Have you just not gotten around to it yet? I'm not implying that you are censoring me, although after the last post you made you might understand the reason for my inquiry.

I would appreciate it if you allowed to post, even if temporarily, as I'd like to collect a screenshot of it.

Thanks.

Anonymous said...

"And now I'm reading of talk of possible censorship and further exclusion."

LOL Hillary, I encourage you to start your own blog, that way you can write as many long-winded diatribes as you like. You might have trouble getting readers though. Des seems to have that problem too.

Hilarity said...

No, anonymous, I'm not supporting anything with that. I'm merely acknowledging this since from all of the reactions to my other links it seems that many among you have a tendency not to read something if a white person didn't pen it.

And I'm not offended at all by you calling me a woman. It's disrespectful to women in general to infer that being female is a negative thing. It seems you have all the respect in the world for white women when accusing black men of raping them the most (false) yet that facade vanishes when it comes time to hurl insults.

SBPDL, I will not be posting for much longer, no need to adopt what would be fascist policies, stick to your principles. I would appreciate it if you posted the missing comment though (if indeed you are withholding it, which is most likely not the case).

Anonymous said...

"I do believe AIDS was man-made and did not stem from Africans fucking monkeys"

Hillary, you're sounding more and more like Des.

As is common with most blacks, the embrace of conspiratorial "blame whitey" theories is another form of refusing to be accountable for one's own reckless, irresponsible behavior.

In spite of the fact that the entire world has known for over 25 years that the simple use of a condom will prevent the transmission of AIDS, blacks still spread the virus like wildfire.

Hilarity said...

Thanks SBPDL.

Anonymous, all I can say is not only am I not sitting online enough to run my own blog, if I did start one then the subject matter would have little or nothing to with any of this shit except on occasion. There is a whole vast universe out there and that consumes the majority of my interest. My time here is an anomaly. My computer usually is used for creative pursuits. Only for the last year or so have I been active on the internet. And I'm not concerned enough about having followers or hangers-on, or even a tribe of like minded individuals whose real names I don't know to worry about whether or not I'll get readers on a hypothetical blog I'll never create or populate with my long-winded diatribes.

Hillary said...

I am not "blam[ing] whitey" and would really appreciate it if you didn't try to subvert everything that I write with that kind of nonsense, though I won't hold my breath. It is an investigation into the facts, into events and occurrences that many, not only black people who wish to "blame whitey", find suspicious and indeed worthy of extensive investigation. It is no secret that the US government spends billions, if not trillions, of tax payer dollars on the development of biological and psychological warfare techniques (among other applications). Have you never heard of MKULTRA? The Tuskeegee syphilis experiments?

LOL, why am I wasting my time talking to you?

Phalluster said...

Contrary to popular belief, blacks did not invent the subprime mortgage loan. However, it was designed specifically for them, and its characteristics are quite fitting, right on down to the name.

Hirsch said...

@ Hilarity

"The MAJORITY of my links were NOT to a wiki page. But that was all conveniently ignored in favor of going for the easiest target."

You are incorrect. I went to the African museum page, and I'm glad that I did, because I found some curious things there. The first and most glaring was in the mission statement:

"The International African Inventors Museum promotes positive images and self-esteem in children..."

It goes on to say that it teaches as well as inspires, but this is a revealing lead-off, don't you think? The desire to instill pride comes before the quest for knowledge or truth. I have no desire to hurt the feelings of a black child. If a five year old black girl were to ask me what I think of George Washington Carver, I would say he was a nice man. If an adult, white or black were to ask me the same question, I would say that his contribution to the creation of peanut-butter was debatable...but that is according to the facts, for adults, not for the "self esteem" or "positive image" of children. The whole affair strikes me as about as political motivated as the Creationism Museum in Kentucky.

Also curious is the founder. Maybe you can help me: "Valerie J. Robinson, known as Lady Sala S. Shabazz." Here is an excerpt (with source)about a tract produced by this woman:

"This year the McDonald's Corporation got into the act by distributing a small booklet titled Little Known Black History Facts. The booklet was the work of Lady Sala S. Shabazz (who had been known as Valerie J. Robinson until she somehow became a noblewoman), and it carried an introductory note written by Tom Joyner, a radio performer. Joyner urged readers of the booklet to "have a Big Mac sandwich and a Black History Fact."

David R. Stronck, of California State University at Hayward, sent a copy of the McDonald's booklet to us after he noticed that it contained some "history" that was both familiar and phony. Her McLadyship declared that "The Father of Lubrication" was a black inventor named Elijah McCoy, and that the phrase the real McCoy had been coined to distinguish Elijah McCoy's excellent lubrication devices from "cheap imitations."

We had seen the same story in 1992, when Prentice Hall put it into the teacher's edition of a schoolbook, and we had traced it to a worthless pamphlet issued in 1985 by Empak Publishing Company (in Chicago), but no one at Empak could tell us how the story had originated."

In any case, the story is bogus, and the history of the phrase the real McCoy is uncertain. Scholarly sources suggest several possible etymologies, none of which involves any inventor or inventions. See "The Fake McCoy" in The Textbook Letter for November-December 1992."

More than half of your sources come from this one woman who was further exposed by a true academic in just one article. Feel the burn, let it radiate, then continue on with however much Latin (petitio principii, lol) it takes for you to obfuscate the fact that the backbone of your citations is fraudulent.

Hubris is probably a word that should never leave your lips, unless it is preceded by the words, "I am full of..." You deign to chastise me for not reading your easily debunked articles, then proceed to tell me what is for me to read and what is not for me to read. Pity you were not born white one-hundred and fifty years ago. The way you like to order people around, you would have made a hell of a slave owner.

I leave you with a source backed by the bona fides of the man who exposed the woman who founded an organization to raise the spirits of children, but certainly not to raise the level of scientific inquiry.


http://www.textbookleague.org/102mcd.htm

*William J. Bennetta is a professional editor, a fellow of the California Academy of Sciences, the president of The Textbook League, and the editor of The Textbook Letter.

Anonymous said...

"Second: "Around 700, Sa'id bin Jubair (665-714), a black African judge who lived in the Middle East, became famous for his ablity to play blindfold chess."

Not just the Gypshuns, now the Iraqi were negros too!

YT

Desiree (anticipating the Revolution) said...

"LOL Hillary, I encourage you to start your own blog, that way you can write as many long-winded diatribes as you like. You might have trouble getting readers though. Des seems to have that problem too."

LOL--if you ever even looked at my blog, you would see the vast majority of my blog posts have nothing to do with white people. Sure, I'll discuss something about race at times but that is not the only thing I'm interested in.

My blog is basically info about Michael Jackson for MJ fans, among other various things. I have readers who come on, although, since they translate my page into their various European tongues, they cannot comment. If comments are the only way you measure 'readers', moron. My goal is for people to read my writing; commenting is secondary. Since I have the former, I can live without the latter.

Please only discuss what you know. Thank you.

"if I did start one then the subject matter would have little or nothing to with any of this shit except on occasion."

Exactly, Hilarity...exactly!

@Sheila:

Why are you getting mad? SBPDL is not white; he's black. If he was white, he wouldn't understand all of the inner-workings of the black community, the insights that you depend on. This site couldn't exist if he was white...

SBPDL: please tell Sheila to stay, and that you are black. I want you to scream to her that you are black and you're proud!

BTW, if you thought you were going to get real debate on this 'joke blog'--as you call it--you were mistaken.

ROTFLMBAO

Anonymous said...

"all I can say is not only am I not sitting online enough to run my own blog"

Hillary, this seems to be contradicted by the fact that your daily output here dwarfs that of SBPDL himself, who manages to run his own blog.

Anonymous said...

"The Tuskeegee syphilis experiments?"

Yes, I've heard of it. I have a feeling you haven't.

http://www.vdare.com/taylor/tuskegee.htm

Anonymous said...

"you would see the vast majority of my blog posts have nothing to do with white people."

Who said your blog had anything to do with white people?

No one commented on the substance of your blog, only that you have few visitors.

Hilarity said...

LOL, that's hilarious! So it's a self-loathing black man/woman, eh? I've met a few of you before. It's hilarious. For a while. Then it gets pretty sad. Thanks for the revelation Des (I will, like my white brothers at this site, choose to believe this even if it is not true!) and keep laughing!

Hirsch. Thank you for proving exactly how petty your argument is. You picked ONE inventor out of all of those at the site, peppered your comment with more subtle ad hominem attacks and then proved that you have no understanding of the WHY behind what motivates black people to focus in on the few inventions and innovations we do have ON RECORD; we are trying to raise the level of confidence in our youth. The babies! Lady Sala S Shabazz is for the babies! If you just sat back and let it happen instead of nitpicking at what is arguably the SMALLEST possible point you could have made (and I'm talking yoctograms of validity), you wouldn't get shot in the face and raped. Not that I support that kind of activity, but really man, think about it. Do you really think we feel robbed and bamboozled and hoodwinked for NOTHING?!? LOL, you must.

By the way, Elijah McCoy still invented the self-regulating lubricator. The only other thing you managed to prove was that the etymology of the phrase "The Real McCoy" is still unknown. By the way, even though he held 52 patents he died broke and alone.

YT...what part of BLACK AFRICAN did you not understand?

Hilarity said...

LOL, you send me to a white supremacist site and expect me to take their disinfo seriously? You're funny.

And yes, I've been on here a lot for THREE DAYS. You can really make an inference from that long period of time. And I almost regret not using every second of this time to make music, but I have learned a lot from these few days, which really amount to a very small portion of my 29 years on earth. (Yeah, I made it past the deadline!)

Anyway...

Hilarity Crescendos said...

Penicilin became the the standard treatment for syphilis in 1947, not the mid-50's as your link claims.

And that funny little bit about how the concept of "informed consent" didn't exist 1932? What? I hope what he means to say that it wasn't a legal precedent at the time, because raping someone while they slept would still get you into a lot of trouble, even way back in 1932. Nice how they try to defend the questionable moral behavior of those involved by saying that doctors rarely informed their patients of much of anything back in the old days! Please. They also stopped the participants from getting alternative treatments which were available, and accessible, at that time.

As a result we now have requiremnts that "informed consent" be obtained and there have been other important advancements to prevent abuse when using human beings in clinical trials.

Of course, pharmaceutical companies and corporate manufacturers often ignore this common moral decency pump all humans, black, white, asian, hispanic, etc, etc, full of harmful chemicals and they all act as if they had no idea what they were doing later.

Why, probably because, much like those involved in the Tuskeegee experiments, they see us ALL as ultimately expendable.

I really wouldn't trust racist sites as a source. They tend to be incredibly biased.

Anonymous said...

"you send me to a white supremacist site and expect me to take their disinfo seriously?"

LOL Your inability to refute the facts is illustrated by your feeble attempt to attack the source. How typical, mindless, and predictable.

YT said...

"YT...what part of BLACK AFRICAN did you not understand?"

I understood the term in its entirety. However, there is no evidence to suggest that the natives of ancient Iraq (such as Sa'id bin Jubayr (665-714), originally from Kufa, in modern-day Iraq) were NEGROES. Your assertion does not rise to the level of evidence.

Anonymous said...

"Penicilin became the the standard treatment for syphilis in 1947, not the mid-50's as your link claims."

LOL The essence of the article is that the "official version" that gets passed around in the media, and particularly among black people, has been so grossly exaggerated that it bears very little resemblance to what actually happened. Your quibbling over the article's contextual use of "informed consent", or the date of penicillin treatment doesn't change the point.

Hirsch said...

@Hilarity


Thank you first for admitting that the goal of the museum is to raise the self-esteem of babies, and not to discover or unearth any truths, as they may painfully contradict the lies, or at the very least, errors that are no doubt rampant in the museum.

This is futile, but not for the reasons you assume. I didn't pick ONE inventor. I picked the woman who established the museum, gave a source which showed she was, in essence, full of it, and provided a brief list of credentials for the gentleman who pointed out that she did what you do with ease, namely lie.

If my source's credentials do not include moderating at either Yahoo Answers or Wikipedia, then forgive my ill-educated professor for lacking all of the qualities of a pseudo-Muslim woman bankrolled by an organization like McDonald's (who have done everything in their power to increase the standard of living for black people in America, I guess).

Yes, I debunked one of your statements. It took about thirty seconds to expose you. Instead of acknowledging it, you make references to shooting and raping.

I could go through your sources and facts one by one for you, but what is the point? You are impervious, bullet-proof to the facts. You will remain Teflon-coated in your cocoon, while you accuse others of needing to expand their horizons. You also manage to insert words in my mouth that I never said. How you can do that and continue to accuse others of ad hominem attacks...well, I take my hat off to you and wish you a happy career in the public relations industry.


I'm sure there is room for someone of your caliber to join McDonald's and a factually-challenged, pseudo religious woman who makes a Scientologist seem logical.

Have a good night. I know you will, for yours is the kind of mind that will go untroubled by dreams, except of sweet visions of black inventors prancing in your head.

Silent Running said...

The wheel, language, writing...

I read somewhere that blacks have some of the lowest SAT scores, yet some of the highest levels of (undeserved) self esteem. The refined hubris of stating that the negro invented language and writing is in line with this assessment.

The proof is in the pudding. When the first Christian missionaries arrived in Africa, they found that the natives had not yet invented the wheel. Blacks make up 15% of the total population of the U.S. and 52% of felons. In 2005 black men raped white women to the tune of 37,000, while the figure for white men who raped black women is 0-10. So really, if what you say is true and the negro has a list of inventions as long as your arm along with this propensity for savage behavior, that would be an indication of a sort of racial psychosis. At least in reality black crime is mostly explained by a mean IQ 15 points lower than that of whites.

Lastly there's the fact that you even feel the need to come here and engage us. I don't go to Afro-centric websites because I do not require the negro to validate my life. My people were getting along fine without you for millenia; we can do so again. You come here because you need something from us, and on a deep level you know it.

Silent Running said...

Ancient Egyptians were quite obviously a beautiful mix of Semitic and Nubian blood while many Egyptians were black Africans.

This lie and many others have been thoroughly destroyed by Mary K. Lefkowitz in her work Not Out Of Africa. Highly recommended.

Silent Running said...

The one problem we have that keeps America and the West from restoring order to this nation is our belief in freedom of speech and the Anglo-Saxon Rule of Law.

These no longer exits in the real-world, so why should they exist at this blog?


More to the point, it's safe to say that some things are universal, and some things are White.

Black people could never create the United States and neither can they maintain it. Our forebears codified in the highest law things like Freedom of Speech, Freedom from Unlawful Search and Seizure, and the Right to Arms, among others. These are White Things.

Letting these liberties spread to people who are unable to use them without rampant abuse is why we're in such a mess today. Give blacks the Right to Arms, and you get prisons full of black murderers. Give them Freedom of Speech, and you get the Afrocentric trolls that currently inhabit this website. American liberty is a civilized notion, meant for civilized people.

Black people have swaths of the internet where they can spread their lies and childlike philosophies. They don't need to take over this space as well. This blog is your property and you are under no obligation to let it become a free-for-all just because some swarthy pseudo-intellectual wails about "further exclusion."

Anonymous said...

Let me be sure I understand correctly. Blacks invented everything wonderful, exciting and necessary for a modern happy healthy life, but Africa is a 3rd world dung hole because . . . . ?

Hilarity Takes A Bow said...

Perspective:
http://www.southafrica.com/forums/human-rights-south-africa/2535-why-black-africans-considered-savages-4.html#post21477

Perspective:
http://www.southafrica.com/forums/human-rights-south-africa/2535-why-black-africans-considered-savages-4.html#post21478

30 Worst Atrocities of the 20th Century:
http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/atrox.htm

Who was the Bloodiest Tyrant of the 20th Century?
http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/tyrants.htm

Losses in the Second World War:
http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/ww2-loss.htm

Source List and Detailed Death Tolls for the Twentieth Century Hemoclysm:
http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat1.htm

A list of atrocities: 1450 CE to 1903:
http://www.religioustolerance.org/genocide2.htm

Partial list of atrocities, massacres, murders and injuries in recent hiistory for which the United States is responsible:
http://underprivilegedamerica.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/sh3tt6c4p-l3st_4f_1tr4c3t32s.jpg

White-on-White Crime ("Is there a biologically based explanation for the tendency of white males to slaughter strangers in public?"):
http://www.slate.com/id/43770

Color Conscious, White Blind:
http://www.lipmagazine.org/articles/featwise_34.htm

The secret lives of white supremacists:
http://blogs.clarionledger.com/jmitchell/tag/white-supremacists/

Was South African White Supremacist Eugene Terre'blanche Killed After Sexually Assaulting 2 Guys?:
http://www.queerty.com/was-south-african-white-supremacist-eugene-terreblanche-killed-after-sexually-assaulting-2-guys-20100412/#ixzz0rz1Qu9dW

Another Murdered White Supremacist With a Thing for Black Guys?:
http://www.queerty.com/another-murdered-white-supremacist-with-a-thing-for-black-guys-20100426/

Money may not have been sole motive for Barrett murder:
http://www.wlbt.com/Global/story.asp?S=12367018

White Supremacist Allegedly Targeted Immigrants In Rape, Murder Spree:
http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/01/27/white-supremacist-3/

German Neo-Nazi murders pregnant Egyptian woman in court:
http://whitewatch.wordpress.com/2009/07/04/german-neo-nazi-murders-pregnant-egyptian-woman-in-court/

Neo-Nazi skinheads jailed in Russia for racist killings:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8537861.stm

Russian Neo-Nazi Beheading (NOT FOR THE FAINT OF HEART):
http://nazisonshoreleave.independentengineering.us/?p=61

Police Respond to Report of Racist Murders in New Orleans ("New Orleans Police have launched an investigation into reports that White vigilantes hunted down and killed Black people in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina and were never prosecuted for their actions."):
http://blogs.bet.com/news/newsyoushouldknow/police-respond-to-report-of-racist-murders-in-new-orleans/?cp=2

Brutal racist killing in America (The shooting death of an African American whose body was dragged for several km is being investigated as a possible hate crime after the arrest of a white man he worked with, said South Carolina's state police chief.):
http://www.hindu.com/2010/06/05/stories/2010060555741600.htm


Katrina's Hidden Race War ("Herrington shouted at the other men to run and turned to face his attackers: three armed white males. Herrington says he hadn't even seen the men or their weapons before the shooting began. As Alexander and Collins fled, Herrington ran in the opposite direction, his hand pressed to the bleeding wound on his throat. Behind him, he says, the gunmen yelled, "Get him! Get that nigger!"):
http://www.thenation.com/article/katrinas-hidden-race-war


Death Penalty and Race - Race of Homicide Victims in Cases Resulting in a Death Sentence since 1976:
http://www.amnestyusa.org/death-penalty/death-penalty-facts/death-penalty-and-race/page.do?id=1101091

Death Penalty information Center:
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/race-and-death-penalty

Hilarity Takes A Bow said...

"So in 1994, a white guy in New York killed his mom for serving the wrong pizza; in 1997, a white 17 year-old in Alabama killed his parents with an axe and sledgehammer; and in 1996, Rod Ferrell, leader of a "vampire cult" in Murray, Kentucky, bludgeoned another member's parents to death, and along with the victims' daughter, drank their blood so as to "cross over to the gates of hell." Which brings me to rule number one for identifying the race of criminals you hear about. If the crime involved vampirism, Satan worship, or cannibalism, you can bet your ass the perpetrator was white. Never fails. Every damned time. But you'll never hear anyone ask what in the hell it is about white parents that makes their children want to cut off their heads and boil them in soup pots."
-http://www.lipmagazine.org/articles/featwise_34_p2.htm

ad infinitum

good riddance.

Hillary Clinton said...

"I understood the term in its entirety. However, there is no evidence to suggest that the natives of ancient Iraq (such as Sa'id bin Jubayr (665-714), originally from Kufa, in modern-day Iraq) were NEGROES. Your assertion does not rise to the level of evidence."

Sa'id bin Jubayr WAS A BLACK AFRICAN. No one said anything about the rest of the Iraqis. Read.

Anonymous said...

"Let me be sure I understand correctly. Blacks invented everything wonderful, exciting and necessary for a modern happy healthy life, but Africa is a 3rd world dung hole because . . . . ?"

...of WHITE COLONIALISM! You're not paying much attention are you?? And it's only called 3rd world because that's how you're racist brethren refer to it based on their own set of checks and balances.

Anonymous said...

The super-soaker as an invention? Please... Remember those bug-sprayers you carry on your back and pump to charge up? My dad said when they were kids they used to fill them with water and spray each other with those. This guy didn't really invent anything, those he did develop a clever application, so I guess I'll give him that.

Kgosi said...

"I read somewhere that blacks have some of the lowest SAT scores, yet some of the highest levels of (undeserved) self esteem. The refined hubris of stating that the negro invented language and writing is in line with this assessment."

Great source, that! "[S]omewhere," eh? Brilliant.

"In 2005 black men raped white women to the tune of 37,000, while the figure for white men who raped black women is 0-10."

How many white men raped white women?

And the IQ test? Please, read this article, entitled Controversial Study of African IQ Levels Is 'Deeply Flawed'" here:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/01/100121155220.htm

And for the psychological perspective, an article entitled "Behavior: Race and IQ" here:
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,902708,00.html

"It was left to John McLaughlin, of all people, to say the obvious about The Bell Curve: 'It is largely pseudo-scientific and it is singularly unhelpful.'"
-

This Hirsch fellow, he debunked nothing. He proved nothing. Yet he sadly clings to the notion that he has. Hubris. The purpose of the Museum is to showcase black inventors, and thereby to raise the awareness of black youth. The etymology of one phrase is all that is under dispute. And let the record show that is in fact UNDER DISPUTE and not entirely disproven, as the source of the phrase is still unknown. So nothing has been disproven.

"I'm sure there is room for someone of your caliber to join McDonald's and a factually-challenged, pseudo religious woman who makes a Scientologist seem logical."
-http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1271

Ad hominem and of no consequence.

Silent Running. While I can't speak for the others, I feel no need to engage you, but a simple desire to do so. Not even a very strong one. On a deep level I know that your claims and bigoted reasoning is false, but due to a racial memory of centuries of oppression (which you types are trying very hard to censor and change, under the guise of exposiong the truth, which you seem to believe is that black people flew down from dark thunder clouds armed with machetes and ak-47s and crack cocaine and proceeded to rape white women and accuse white men of heinous crimes of idiocy and racism solely to make your shiny, happy, white lives a living hell) I sometimes need to remind myself of exactly how weak your arguments truly are and how small your scopes must be, and how sad and bitter your lives must be to inspire you to waste so much time projecting all of your issues onto other people. All that I 'need' from you is for you to continue being exactly what you are.

I thank you for complying.


"In 2005 black men raped white women to the tune of 37,000, while the figure for white men who raped black women is 0-10."

How many white men raped white women?

And the IQ test? It has long been proven invalid as

Kgosi said...

"I read somewhere that blacks have some of the lowest SAT scores, yet some of the highest

levels of (undeserved) self esteem. The refined hubris of stating that the negro invented

language and writing is in line with this assessment."

Great source, that! "[S]omewhere," eh? Brilliant.

"In 2005 black men raped white women to the tune of 37,000, while the figure for white men who

raped black women is 0-10."

How many white men raped white women?

And the IQ test? Please, read this article, entitled Controversial Study of African IQ Levels

Is 'Deeply Flawed'" here:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/01/100121155220.htm

And for the psychological perspective, an article entitled "Behavior: Race and IQ" here:
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,902708,00.html

"It was left to John McLaughlin, of all people, to say the obvious about The Bell Curve: 'It is

largely pseudo-scientific and it is singularly unhelpful.'"
-http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1271

This Hirsch fellow, he debunked nothing. He proved nothing. Yet he sadly clings to the notion

that he has. Hubris. The purpose of the Museum is to showcase black inventors, and thereby to

raise the awareness of black youth. The etymology of one phrase is all that is under dispute.

And let the record show that is in fact UNDER DISPUTE and not entirely disproven, as the source

of the phrase is still unknown. So nothing has been disproven.

"I'm sure there is room for someone of your caliber to join McDonald's and a factually-

challenged, pseudo religious woman who makes a Scientologist seem logical."

Ad hominem and of no consequence.

Silent Running. While I can't speak for the others, I feel no need to engage you, but a simple

desire to do so. Not even a very strong one. On a deep level I know that your claims and

bigoted reasoning is false, but due to a racial memory of centuries of oppression (which you

types are trying very hard to censor and change, under the guise of exposiong the truth, which

you seem to believe is that black people flew down from dark thunder clouds armed with machetes

and ak-47s and crack cocaine and proceeded to rape white women and accuse white men of heinous

crimes of idiocy and racism solely to make your shiny, happy, white lives a living hell) I

sometimes need to remind myself of exactly how weak your arguments truly are and how small your

scopes must be, and how sad and bitter your lives must be to inspire you to waste so much time

projecting all of your issues onto other people. All that I 'need' from you is for you to

continue being exactly what you are.

I thank you for complying.

Anonymous said...

"but Africa is a 3rd world dung hole because . . . . ?"

Duh! Because of White racism. Everybody knows dat!

Hirsch said...

@ Tgosi and Hilarity....Just as I predicted.Teflon, impervious to the truth. Your lies will work on black children, not adults. Apply for jobs at the museum in question; print up all the inaccuracies you want, and hopefully McDonald's will sponsor you.

Silent Running said...

Ah, another one. Desiree only has to sound the horn and they come a-runnin. The innate need (and it is a need, despite your convenient denial) for the negro to engage the white man is most amusing when it becomes frantic.

Great source, that! "[S]omewhere," eh? Brilliant.

It was an article written by an anonymous teacher. People have to remain anonymous when speaking the truth about your kind if they value their jobs. Your mastery of manipulation in the form of white guilt and grievance-mongering is second to none.

How many white men raped white women?

Black rapists single out white women. This is a well known propensity. Just ask Eldridge Cleaver:

"I know that the black man's sick attitude toward the white woman is a revolutionary sickness: it keeps him perpetually out of harmony with the system that is oppressing him. Many whites flatter themselves with the idea that the Negro male's lust and desire for the white dream girl is purely an esthetic attraction, but nothing could be further from the truth. His motivation is often of such
a bloody, hateful, bitter, and malignant nature that whites would really be hard pressed to find it flattering."

It was left to John McLaughlin, of all people, to say the obvious about The Bell Curve: 'It is largely pseudo-scientific and it is singularly unhelpful.

If asked directly, most disingenuous whites will sputter that we're all equal and that race has nothing to do with IQ, etc. The Bell Curve finally provided answers as to why the black race is such an utter failure. McLaughlin is the purveyor of pseudo-science here. Oh, and it's not just the Bell Curve that recognizes the truth.

It doesn't matter where you go, or in what environment you live. Africans in Africa have yet to create viable societies. Africans in America benefit from white civilization, which they have become adept at sponging off of but are unable to mimick. This is the last thing I will say to you: your race is a failure, and it will remain a failure until the stars burn out.

SBPDL, is this what you want your blog to become?

Kgosi said...

It doesn't matter where you go, or in what environment you live. Africans in Africa have yet to create viable societies.

The egotism apparent in your statement should hardly need to be addressed, but it apparently does. You are using a 'western' language, and 'western' ideals of what constitutes a society, to invalidate thousands of years of independent African culture, morals, thought, religion, society and heritage.

Africans in America benefit from white civilization, which they have become adept at sponging off of but are unable to mimick.

That you can't realize the absurdity stated here is sad at best. All things have 'good' and 'bad' aspects to them. That is the basis of existence. Negative, positive, neutral. Indigenous shamans, of all races, have understood the essence of this principle for thousands upon thousands of years. It is evident in their art and ritual, in their creation stories and their societal organization.

This is the last thing I will say to you: your race is a failure, and it will remain a failure until the stars burn out.

Many of the stars you are referring to have already burned out. Your claim is still untrue, and demonstrates an unassailable amount of ignorance and bias. All further claims made by you will now be seen for what they are: the desperate moans of a dying ideology. I, for one, will not mourn its passing.

And there is no 'k' in mimic.

Kgosi said...

The innate need (and it is a need, despite your convenient denial) for the negro to engage the white man is most amusing when it becomes frantic.

Funny, coming from someone commenting on a blog that is predominantly about black people, which is maintained by a (presumably) white person who has been making posts for almost everyday of the month, and often more, for over a year! Introspection in ever deepening amounts is highly recommended, and it is greatly rewarding.

It was an article written by an anonymous teacher.

From 'Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression' by David Martin:

"#15. Baldly and brazenly lie. A favorite way of doing this is to attribute the "facts" furnished the public to a plausible-sounding, but anonymous, source."

Your mastery of manipulation in the form of white guilt and grievance-mongering is second to none.

Strange that you would say that, as I don't think white people should have anything to feel guilty about, particularly not the youth of today, if they haven't participated in any form of racism. The phenomenon of 'white guilt' has always been a particularly interesting subject to me. I find it absurd, especially when the only thing desired of you is 'white' understanding and honest acknowledgment of the racist motives that are responsible for the present and the past. Yet there are still a few among you who seem entirely incapable of such a simple thing. It even seems that you now believe the dismissive lies of your forefathers.

Black rapists single out white women. This is a well known propensity. Just ask Eldridge Cleaver

So, apparently, do white men. I don't recall ever denying that this is sometimes the case, however. First of all, rapists, regardless of color, are pathetic creatures. But even still, where do you suppose this "bloody, hateful, bitter, and malignant" tendency stems from? The void? Simple jealousy? No. As all things it is directly related to the past, a past you are so intent on denying, or justifying with spurious so-called 'scientific' research. Which brings us to:

The Bell Curve finally provided answers as to why the black race is such an utter failure. McLaughlin is the purveyor of pseudo-science here [see: '17 Techniques for Truth Suppression' item #5]. Oh, and it's not just the Bell Curve that recognizes the truth.

You then linked to Rushton and Jensen's 'response' to criticism of an article they wrote. This article has even come under criticism from its one-time supporters. For example, William Saletan, who has since partially withdrawn his support due to the white supremacist stance evidenced by Rushton's presidency of the Pioneer Fund in an article entitled 'Regrets', available here, makes an even stronger case against the tone of the article in a piece entitled 'Not Black and White, Rethinking race and genes' here.

Further criticism of Rushton, entitled 'Rushton and Racial Differences: Further Reasons for Caution', available here.

Further criticism of Rushton and Jensen here and here, and further criticism of Rushton, Jensen and Saletan here.

Anonymous said...

Intellectual brown shirts - Richard Herrnstein and Charles Murray, authors of 'The Bell Curve' - Column

Anonymous said...

In sum -- it's whitey's fault!

Abe Stinkin' said...

Wow, I have never seen such a barrage of excrement. This is beyond words. The truth about black failure truly reveals itself through perusal of this nonsense however, as these idiots are the black elite, the talented tenth as DuBois would say. Reading through this simian dung demonstrates clearly why every black society is a disaster; if the above morons are their best and brightest, nothing else need be said. Case closed. Did I read above a rationalization about whites terrorizing blacks, during, Katrina? Huh? Incredible. Truly incredible.

This esteemed up ghetto trolling can be easily controlled within the confines of fully honoring the Western traditions of freedom of speech, traditions alien to Africans wherever they reside.

Regarding citations to opinions or works other than that of the author of an individual comment, why don't you just make up a rule that forbids reference to crap sources like Wiki and Yahoo. To wit, only citations to verifiable peer reviewed primary sources can be made and such citations must be in Blue Book format for legal sources and APA format for all others. If the reference is to a verifiable web based source such as the CDC or DOJ websites, for example, such citations should be allowed if complete and accurate. Without proper form, content and citation to specific pages of these primary sources, along with proper credit being given to quotations longer than two lines, simply strike the contents of the citation and hence, the entire post.

This has got to be the worst example of troll hijacking I have ever seen.

Stuff Black People Don't Like said...

http://newsone.com/nation/casey-gane-mccalla/video-black-inventor-reveals-two-amazing-energy-saving-inventions-on-cnn/

He's back!