Tuesday, June 29, 2010

#124. Angelina Jolie Portraying Cleopatra


Michael Jackson famously bleached his skin in an all out effort to become white; had plastic surgery to replace his God-given looks with features that esthetically would be deemed white; and had his hair straightened in an attempt to undo nature, replicating the same techniques that millions of other Black people employ.

Though he ran away from his Black roots his entire life (attempting to have the outward appearance of a white person in the process), Jackson found a precious moment to acknowledge them with the 1992 music video to his song Remember the Time:

The video was set in ancient Egypt, and featured groundbreaking visual effects and appearances by Eddie Murphy, Iman, The Pharcyde, Magic Johnson, Tom "Tiny" Lister, Jr. and Wylie Draper.

Black people have long found Ancient Egypt a fascinating subject and source of pride, because Egypt is in Africa and logically must be an African nation. Just like the Black people populating Michael Jackson’s music video (an interview from Jet magazine with Michael Jackson about the music video can be found here), the Ancient Egyptians were Black people, and the intriguing erections that jettison into the barren desert are a constant reminder of the past glories of a people long since gone.

Those who believe some long dead ancient race built the pyramids are mistaken, as the long-standing monuments that still deliver awe-inspired looks of astonishment upon the faces who them in person were built by Black people.

Aliens had nothing to do with assembling and constructing the stones that comprise the pyramids or any of the trappings that make Ancient Egypt so intriguing and exotic. It was Black people.

Now, the question of where these intellectually-gifted and architecturally-minded geniuses drifted to is a question most Black people never pose nor consider answering: only the celebration of a long-dead civilization that has the geographic advantage of being on the African continent – thus making it Black in origin – is allowed.

Though scant evidence for inventions, metallurgy or descendants of this long dead Black civilization possessing similar intellect required for the creation of such an impressive civilization exist today, Black people still celebrate Ancient Egypt as their own.

In the seminal book, Not Out of Africa, the author provides mountains of evidence – all sourced – that helps to dynamite intellectually bankrupt ideas regarding Ancient Egypt that have spread throughout intellectual circles and infested the Ivory Halls of academia like Credit Default Swaps did in the 2008 financial markets:

Although I had been completely unaware of it, there was in existence a whole literature that denied that the ancient Greeks were the inventors of democracy, philosophy, and science. There were books in circulation that claimed that Socrates and Cleopatra were of African descent, and that Greek philosophy had actually been stolen from Egypt. Not only were these books being read and widely distributed; some of these ideas were being taught in schools and even in universities.

Ordinarily, if someone has a theory which involves a radical departure from what the experts have professed, he is expected to defend his position by providing evidence in its support. But no one seemed to think it was appropriate to ask for evidence from the instructors who claimed that the Greeks stole their philosophy from Egypt.

Normally, if one has a question about a text that another instructor is using, one simply asks why he or she is using that book. But since this conventional line of inquiry was closed to me, I had to wait till I could raise my questions in a more public context. That opportunity came in February 1993, when Dr. Yosef A. A. ben-Jochannan was invited to give Wellesley's Martin Luther King, Jr. memorial lecture. Posters described Dr. ben-Jochannan as a "distinguished Egyptologist," and indeed that is how he was introduced by the then President of Wellesley College. But I knew from my research in Afrocentric literature that he was not what scholars would ordinarily describe as an Egyptologist, that is a scholar of Egyptian language and civilization. Rather, he was an extreme Afrocentrist, author of many books describing how Greek civilization was stolen from Africa, how Aristotle robbed the library of Alexandria, and how the true Jews are Africans like himself.

After Dr. ben-Jochannan made these same assertions once again in his lecture, I asked him during the question period why he said that Aristotle had come to Egypt with Alexander, and had stolen his philosophy from the Library at Alexandria, when that Library had only been built after his death. Dr. ben-Jochannan was unable to answer the question, and said that he resented the tone of the inquiry. Several students came up to me after the lecture and accused me of racism, suggesting that I had been brainwashed by white historians. But others stayed to hear me out, and I assured Dr. ben-Jochannan that I simply wanted to know what his evidence was: so far as I knew, and I had studied the subject, Aristotle never went to Egypt, and while the date of the Library of Alexandria is not known precisely, it was certainly only built some years after the city was founded, which was after both Aristotle's and Alexander's deaths.

Black people profess a belief in Afrocentrism, the belief that all that is good and great in the world comes from the supple and capable hands of Black people and that all evil and maliciousness is the hallmark of white hands only. The existence of Ancient Egypt as a Black civilization rests at the pinnacle of the theory of Afrocentrism, and no matter what scientific discoveries might uncover, Black people cling to the idyllic and romantic notion of a long-lost advanced society that was distinctly Black.

Michael Jackson’s music video provided all the evidence Black people needed to support the supposition that Ancient Egypt was Black, and should have closed the lid on such a superfluous argument once and for all.

It has not as contrary to the claims of Black people everywhere, Hollywood is prepared to make yet another film without a Black leading actress. However, the affront this time is too great as Angelina Jolie has been cast as Cleopatra:

Angelina Jolie is one of the most beautiful women in the world, but her "perfect" looks have some critics complaining she's all wrong for her latest role.

Earlier this month producer Scott Rudin got the Internet buzzing with his announcement that he was developing a Cleopatra biopic "for and with Jolie" based on Stacy Schiff's book "Cleopatra: A Life."

Schiff raved about the choice, telling USA Today, "Physically, she's the perfect look."

But some members of the African American community beg to differ -- they are outraged by the casting decision and say Jolie is "too white" to play the Egyptian Queen.

"I don't care how full Angelina Jolie's lips are, how many African children she adopts, or how bronzed her skin will become for the film," Shirea Carroll wrote in an editorial for Essence.com.

"I firmly believe this role should have gone to a Black woman...What's next? A biopic on Sojourner Truth played by Betty White?"

This isn't the first time Jolie has found herself at the center of a debate about race in Hollywood.

In 2007, she sparked serious controversy when she wore tinted make-up to play the role of slain Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl's wife Marian, who is partly of African descent. Pearl herself took to the press to defend Jolie, telling Time Magazine, "It is not about the color of your skin. It is about who you are."

While experts can't say with certainty what Cleopatra looked like, physically speaking, Jolie is probably not the most historically accurate choice. For starters, she's probably too tall, beautiful and skinny, according to what historians now know.

"Sadly for those who seek the secret of her personal allure, the more we study Cleopatra's surviving images, the less certain we may be of her [allegedly gorgeous] looks," Susan Walker, a senior curator at the British Museum, told the British Sunday Times.

In fact, according to ABC News, Egyptologists insist that the legendary temptress, known for having used her beauty to seduce Roman Emperor Julius Caesar and general Mark Anthony, was actually "short, fat and plain."

Black people being forced to suffer the indignity of watching a film that contradicts the Michael Jackson music video Remember the Time and the learned teachings of Afrocentrism is a horrendous offense that no amount of Black actors being cast as Nordic Gods can bring atonement too.

A pyramid can be found in the great Black city of Memphis, Tennessee… exactly as pyramids can be found in the great ancient Black civilization of Egypt. That should be all the evidence necessary to warrant Black people’s claim that Ancient Egypt was a Black civilization and that Jolie should thus be barred from portraying Cleopatra.

A land of eternal mystery, Ancient Egypt is a Black civilization that has been lost to the sands of time and the memory of this Nubian land is corrupted by nefarious white people bent on removing any shred of evidence that connects Black people to their rightful heritage:

This "celebration" marked the high-water mark of Afrocentrism, a movement that had begun in the academy in the 1980s and gained astonishing momentum with the publication of Martin Bernal's "Black Athena: The Afroasiatic Roots of Classical Civilization" (1989). According to various Afrocentric books and popular assertions, ancient Egypt invaded ancient Greece, Plato and Herodotus somehow picked up their ideas in travels along the Nile, and Aristotle stole his philosophy from the library at Alexandria. Though the arguments were contradictory and scattered, the point was that Western civilization had been founded on materials and discoveries borrowed or stolen from black Egyptians.

During this whirlwind of dubious scholarship, the academic world mostly remained mum, hiding behind the curtain of academic freedom and withholding its criticism lest a statement of simple truth be branded "racist." For a 1991 column in U.S. News & World Report, I phoned seven Egyptologists and asked whether the ancient Egyptian population had been "black." Of course not, they all responded, but not for attribution, since, as one said, "this subject is just too hot."

Truth is no ally of those who desire to win a debate with one who promotes theories populated with Afrocentrism.

Stuff Black People Don’t Like includes Angelina Jolie portraying Cleopatra, a casting move that contradicts the historical reality of Ancient Egypt and dares to question the validity of Michael Jackson’s most important contribution to contemporary Black history.

Remember the Time? Attempts to Black-wash Egyptian history fail historical reality, as the attempts to white-wash Michael Jackson’s body in life finally helped bring about his untimely demise.







63 comments:

Anonymous said...

Africa is a giant turd.

Anonymous said...

SBPDL,

I said this many times on this very site. The vision of the artist is his and his alone. If some white dude wants to cast Kathy Bates to portray Malcolm X's wife in a film who gives a damn.

As someone who enjoys film , I have only one question. Has Angelina Jolie been even remotely involved in a decent film since Gia?

Minus a few notable exceptions movies and TV shows are mostly boring, predictable, cliched hyper PC garbage.

Anyone who is honest and smart realizes this casting is a publicity stunt used to drum up phony "controversy", and this post helps support that argument.

I have gigabytes of photos and video of family and friends on my hard drive. So if I need to see black faces I can do with or without the help of Hollywood.

-Black guy

Anonymous said...

LOL Liz Taylor played Cleopatra in 1963 and didn't cause a stir, but I guess that was before we all knew about Cleo's blackness.

With black crime, black unemployment, black illegitimacy, black incarceration, etc, all spiraling out of control...THIS is important???

It's always refreshing to see that black people have such a well-grounded sense of priority.

Anonymous said...

Um, the R1b haplogroup "is the most frequently occurring Y-chromosome haplogroup in Western Europe, parts of central Eurasia (for example Bashkortostan), and in parts of sub-Saharan Central Africa (for example around Chad and Cameroon). R1b is also present at lower frequencies throughout Eastern Europe, Western Asia, Central Asia, and parts of North Africa. Due to European emigration it also reaches high frequencies in the Americas and Australia. While Western Europe is dominated by the R1b1b2 (R-M269) branch of R1b, the Chadic-speaking area in Africa is dominated by the branch known as R1b1a (R-V88)." In other words, NOT European through and through.

See also: http://www.nature.com/ejhg/journal/v18/n7/abs/ejhg2009231a.html

Stop with the fraud. Blatant fraud.

Hirsch said...

As mentioned in the "Super Soaker" post Afro-centrist historians have a stated goal. They are candid about this. Their goal is to raise the self-esteem of their people, particularly children. Other historians, regardless of their background, also have a stated goal. To uncover evidence of the past
that helps us understand the way people lived and thought, with the help of professional archeologists. It is up to you to decide which agenda would better serve your understanding of history.

I've heard this assertion that the only true Jews are black. Is this why so many black leaders resent world Jewry? It would have been nice if Hitler had gotten this historic memo. This particular Afrocentric canard could have saved millions of lives if it had been perpetrated earlier.


Angelina Jolie always struck me as an insipid, vapid actress with the most beautiful lips I have ever seen. Remember her in that other historic biopic that was a disaster, Oliver Stone's "Alexander"? Her laughable accent in that movie is now the stuff of legend. I've seen her in more than ten movies and still struggle to recall one decent performance. "Hackers" or "Girl Interrupted," are decent, but hardly enough to merit praise. Like Sean Penn or Bono, she leaves the mansion or limo long enough to deign to talk to us rabble about how to heal the sick and help the maimed, provided those in question are black.

Anonymous said...

North African civilizations such as the Carthaginians and the Egyptians were related to Mediterranean cultures (Greeks, Romans and the Phoenicians) as well as the Middle Eastern cultures (Arabs and Semites). That's why they look more like Greeks and Israelis as opposed to blacks. Do a google image search for the modern day egyptian and you won't see anyone with wooly hair or black skin. The Somali empire was the only black civilization close to Egypt as they were on the east coast and connected via the Nile, and if you look online they are distinct in features from Egyptian. The rest of Black Africa was separated by hundreds of miles of Saharan desert, so they were off doing their own thing for thousands of years until one day Europeans showed up with gunpowder and armor.

JEM said...

Okay, after a year of reading, it's probably time to step in as no one seems to be giving the appropriate answer fast enough and God knows the comment threads these days keep disintegrating before anything can really be resolved.

Cleopatra was a Ptolemy, which is to say a descendant of one of Alexander's generals, ie of Macedonian decent. Needless to say, Cleopatra would certainly have more closely resembled Jolie than, say, Angela Bassett.

JEM said...

And now to make a complete hypocrite of myself by also following a thread that detracts from the original, Jolie is actually far more of her father's daughter than a Sean Penn or a Bono. This skeptical bend, particularly with regards to the role of Governmental powers and the Obama administration is actually part of what led to her break-up with Obamaphile Brad Pitt.

Anonymous said...

Anon@6:19-

Why don't you google Egyptians? There are still Africans in Egypt as well as 'Arabs' and 'Semites'.

"The Somali empire was the only black civilization close to Egypt," etc.

Read more: http://www.culturekiosque.com/art/exhibiti/rhesouda.htm


"The Sudanese Neolithic era
The study of prehistoric sites in the Sudan is just beginning. Recent finds, exhibited in the first hall, point to a civilisation of some refinement capable of producing vases and club heads of incredible finesse in their execution, as well as stylised feminine representations of a high aesthetic level. For the most part, these items have been found in neolithic tombs at Kadero and El-Kadada near Khartoum, and at Kadruka, close to the 2nd cataract."


"The Kingdom of Kerma: Egypt comes under threat
In parallel with these cultures, and a good way south, a powerful kingdom whose capital was Kerma was developing around the 3rd cataract. Its territorial limits have yet to be properly defined. Known to us since 2500 B.C., it was to reach its height towards 1600 B.C., threatening Upper Egypt whose weak kings of the XVIIth dynasty had a hard time maintaining Egyptian sovereignty in the face of invasions by the Hyksos to the north (XVth and XVIth dynasties) and the ambitious Nubian monarchs to the south, who had invaded Egyptian bastions built during the Middle Kingdom. With the reunification of Egypt and the return to military expansion under the XVIIth dynasty, the Kingdom of Kerma was purely and simply to disappear. Remaining vestiges are derived essentially from the capital's buidings excavated by Reisner and from tombs in which dignitaries were buried together with several members of their entourage, sacrificed to accompany them to the other world. Excavations have also brought to light extremely fine ceramics. Red with a black rim, they constitute one of the artistic pinnacles in African ceramics."

Silent Running said...

The myth of Cleopatra is discarded even more easily than most Afrocentric nonsense. In 332 B.C., Egypt, formerly the property of the Persian Empire, was handed over to Alexander the Great. Alexander was a Macedonian (read: Caucasian) who would go on to shatter the rest of the Persian Empire. Alexander had a friend by the name of Ptolemy, who was also Macedonian, and to Ptolemy he gave Egypt. Ptolemy's line would rule Egypt until it was famously conquered by Julius Caesar almost three centuries later.

In order to placate the backwards natives, Ptolemy decided to adopt Egyptian customs. One of these customs was that the Pharaoh should marry his sister. So Ptolemy's direct line would be an almost totally unbroken chain of inbreeding until Egypt came under Roman rule. Cleopatra was a Macedonian Caucasian.

CWN said...

Lawdy you crackers be racist. Attacking colored people with facts, how dare you?

White devils!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Funny tho, Eddie Murphy is in the middle of the pic. But the two white chicks to either side of him look like they have some white in them.

Was Michelle Jackson saying that Egyptian blacks were mallatoes? That they hated being black as much as Michelle jackson hated being black?

No sweat off of my nuts either way. Negroes are desperate and funny people. Schitzophrenic and all over the place.

Anonymous said...

It's very simple, blacks are not capable of designing pyramids, I'm sorry.These great pryamids were mathematically precise.Give me a break.Nor are they capable of ruling as a world power as the Egyptians did for so long.
Just look at Haiti or the violent south african blacks and tell me that they're ancient cousins actually ruled the world at one time.

Anonymous said...

"It's very simple, blacks are not capable of designing pyramids"

LOL But blacks seem to cling to the nonsensical theory that if they can prove the existence of some sort of advanced historical accomplishment, that will somehow validate their race.

It's pathetic, really.

Anonymous said...

Blacks only started appearing in ancient Egypt during the Third Empire, long after Cleopatra, the pyramids, mathematics, language, culture, and Egyptian technology were invented. This was only due to the Third Empire's expansion into Somalia where blacks then started appearing as slaves, mercenaries, guards, etc.

There was no black hands involved in creating Egypt, hell in creating any legitimate civilization outside of mud huts and shit pits, and that's a fact.

Hirsch said...

@Jem

Ms. Jolie will more than toe the line regarding the political beliefs espoused by the vast majority of Hollywood elites. I could go on, but have no desire to hijack the thread. You could call my mother a whore in your response and I won't respond. Thread hijacking is for "Hilarity," who hopefully will stick to his/her/its word and remain gone.

Phalluster said...

JEM: cheers to your brilliance!

I sometimes wonder if I should comment more here. It's so easy to revel in a glorious mudbath of obvious fact that indeed we start to betray truth and display an intellectual dishonesty in our comments.

And some of the triple-digit IQ blacks, the outliers, are able to pounce on this.

As much as I instinctively want to "win" "the argument", I believe it is much more entertaining to behold the spectacle. These comment threads over the past week have been remarkable, marvelous, and splendid. No agent of fiction could construct them, because they could never dedicate themselves to such pursuits of empty tendrils.

But we have seen them! They are indeed astounding, and deserve reproduction, perhaps even some Scriptured canonization.

So I say to you: let's poke. Let's prod this animal with a stick and see what it does. This website is a zoo, so let us enjoy it as such. At a civilized zoo, you cannot feed the animals or toss pellets into their cages. That is a decent policy.

But we have been living at this 'decent zoo' for so long now, as long as I have been alive! We KNOW how the zoo creatures behave in captivity, and we know how they behave while wandering among us.

So I say to you: let us hurl pellets at them and make them charge! Yes, of course, they will crash into the zoo-cage walls and hurt themselves. We should LAUGH at this! The point of a zoo is our own revelry, no?

Please, comment more and fuel the fire here. I think it is preferable to watching from afar and consigning ourselves to boredom.

Anonymous said...

Hey wait a minute. Everyone's forgetting about modern day cutting edge (literally) African culture including: female genital mutilation, chopping off peoples noses and arms, fathers deflowering their daughters, burning people alive for being witches, drinking cow menses until the testicles are as big as a beach ball, etc. ad nauseum.

Anonymous said...

Phalluster, point well taken. It is entertaining watching representatives of a failed race air their collective "dirty laundry", i.e. myriad neuroses in a public forum. They could after all just sit in front of a mirror with their "Whitey" mask on and scream at themselves in private but where's the fun in that?

Anonymous said...

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1355/is_12_109/ai_n16346229/?tag=rbxcra.2.a.11
Black and white twins born to mixed race couple.
Expand your horizons.

CWN. You think it's a fact that Adam and Eve were the first humans, magically created a few thousand years ago by an angry UFO. Everything you say after that seems totally inadmissible. And hypocritical since you profess to be of the Christian faith. What would Jesus do?

"In order to placate the backwards natives, Ptolemy decided to adopt Egyptian customs. One of these customs was that the Pharaoh should marry his sister."

False. They were worried about preserving royal bloodline. You should know this, yet you utter misleading propaganda in an attempt to smear the Egyptians as 'backwards' (funny, how they become 'backwards natives' when it suits you).

The Ptolemaic dynasty has been characterized as extremely obese and suffering from a number of diseases and deformations most likely related to their incessant and excessive inbreeding.

"Blacks only started appearing in ancient Egypt during the Third Empire, long after Cleopatra, the pyramids, mathematics, language, culture, and Egyptian technology were invented."

What have you been reading?!? David Dukes private history of Egypt? That statement is so absurd I should probably ignore it as it obviously comes from someone who, unlike most scholars, has already made up their mind on the subject! But for the sake of clarity:

"Who Were The Badarians?

The Badarian structure is said to have affinity to the black race . . . Max Toth, Pyramid Prophecies, Destiny Books, (1988): "The oldest ivory figurines found in ancient Egypt were sculpted by the Badari, a Negroid race of the Egyptians".
Dr. Eugen Strouhal Physical Anthropologist was able to take samples of seven of the racially mixed Badarian individuals which were macroscopically curly [spirals of 10-20mm in diameter] or wavy in [25-35 mm]. They were studied microscopically by S. Tittlebacchova from the Institute of Anthropology of the Charles University, who found in five out of seven samples a change in the thickness of the hair in the course of its length, sometimes with simultaneous narrowing of the hair pitch. Strouhal summarized: "The outline of the cross-sections of the hairs was flattened, with indices ranging from 35 to 65. These peculiarities also show the Negroid inference among the Badarians (pre-dynastic Egyptians)." (Journal of African History, 1971). Thus, this is incompatible with the theories that the Negro element only infiltrated into Egypt at a late stage."
-http://wysinger.homestead.com/badarians.html

But it's obvious that this will continue.

@Hirsch: Keep clinging to your illusions.

p.s. I never said Cleopatra wasn't white. It is, however, a fact that her full racial profile may include some African influence, but I simply don't care.

Menes doesn't seem to have been white:

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But whatever. You'll keep ignoring any evidence to the contrary and burying yourselves under ever more abstract premises and selective evidence, and for what? Just to have included even more "backwards natives" into your history?

Well, good luck with that.

Anonymous said...

In case it was missed, my comment concerning the R1b haplogroup was in relation to the link embedded, laughably, in the sentence in this very post that reads, in part, "no matter what scientific discoveries might uncover" (I wasn't aware that short clips on television documentaries were considered as viably 'scientific'). The link leads to a site claiming that King Tut was indisputably white. This is so absurd it should hardly have to commented on. Nonetheless:

I don't recall seeing anything more than simply R1b, and this from dubious sources regardless, which leads me to wonder why anyone is running with this story as if it proves anything at all, other than Tut was from Egypt, where he was found. R1b is not solely confined to Western Europe by any stretch of the imagination, so claiming that this makes him European "through and through", as your source has, is utter nonsense.

All that stating that his haplogroup is R1b proves is that he either came from North Africa, where his corpse was found, central Eurasia, Eastern Euorpe, Western Europe or sub-Saharan Africa...

This is actually extremely ON topic, as now you are explicitly guilty of doing exactly what you accuse black people of doing exclusively, namely, wildly distorting out-of-context information to support your obviously emotionally-influenced position.

CWN said...

Anonymous 10:52am

"CWN. You think it's a fact that Adam and Eve were the first humans, magically created a few thousand years ago by an angry UFO. Everything you say after that seems totally inadmissible. And hypocritical since you profess to be of the Christian faith. What would Jesus do?"

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, no. Not exactly what I believe. I believe that Adam and EVe were the first humans, yes. I said nothing about magic or UFO's. I believe that God, the God of the bible, created them with his power. No magic, and no angry UFO's. And what would Jesus do about what? About the truth? I don't get the question.

Anonymous said...

@Phalluster & Anon@10:52 (and everyone else, really) "Please, comment more and fuel the fire here":

I'll oblige thee...

But only because you're even funnier to me after reading that! I wonder what you look like...

"It's so easy to revel in a glorious mudbath of obvious fact that indeed we start to betray truth and display an intellectual dishonesty in our comments. And some of the triple-digit IQ blacks, the outliers, are able to pounce on this."

LOL! A 'glorious mudbath of obvious fact'? For your own sake, I really hope you're kidding. Glorious? An internet masturbation/genital-measuring ritual? Well, if you're serious then continue reveling in your glorious mud. And failed? Please. I thought we were taking over America. Keep placating yourselves, though I'm not sure why you need to do so if everything that's white is so glorious. Why not just focus on that? Do I sense a demon of your own lurking, Phallus? Hmm?

LOL, I just thought about your post again, Phallus!

I'm sorry, but that was really just too funny. Hubris of the highest order. Swollen egos, riding on the innovation of people probably not even related to you and due to a superficial resemblance of skin color sucking up any discarded pride you can find bobbing amongst the waste in the drainage ditch that western society is turning our planet into. What do YOU do Phallus? What, might I ask, do YOU do that makes YOU so special? What, you have a small presence on the internet with a few even weaker hangers-on to lap up the trail of drivel you leave in your onerous wake and you think this makes you a SOMEBODY? Special? What do you contribute? Anything? Anything other than the (questionable) ability to parrot a dying breed of so-called scholars? "Intellectual dishonesty"? Phallus, there was enough of that in your comment to last a lifetime, and you KNOW it, deep inside you KNOW what you are. A cliche, perhaps, but an altogether accurate one. Your language betrays you, mllecha. Why aren't you off picking the bones of a corpse?

@Hirsch: I thought you were leaving as well. Was the outside world too frightening? Too filled with menacing black faces?

In truth, this has amused me but the mood has passed!

Anonymous said...

CWN: "I don't get the question. "

Of course you don't.

CWN said...

Anonymous 11:57AM

"Of course you don't."

Well, if it is a nonsensical question asked without an explanation, I can't answer it. Just putting the term "what would Jesus do" after you mocked the bible doesn't make much sense to me.

Desiree (I look like the real Egyptians) said...

Um...Anonymous has all of the facts and you people are ignoring the obvious: Egypt is in Africa; it arose way before the caucasoid bone-structured Arabs and Greeks arrived.

Silly, silly.

There were many Cleopatras. I believe the famous one (to whom Angie Jolie would play) is whitish or mixed or something. But there were queens and pharaohs of Egypt that looked just like the drop dead gorgeous Iman. Maybe not Eddie Murphy, though...

Egypt is black. Black tourists from the States are often confused with indigenous Egyptians; this is a fact.

But screw the egyptian debate! SBPDL said Michael Jackson intentionally bleached his skin! That is a lie! A lie!

He had vitiligo. Check out his autopsy report, SBPDL, on the smoking gun.

How dare you defame Michael like that? How. dare. you?!

LOL.

Anonymous said...

"riding on the innovation of people probably not even related to you and due to a superficial resemblance of skin color sucking up any discarded pride"

Also known as "Black History Month".

Phalluster said...

It is both "shocking" and yet not at all shocking that my horn-blow for INTELLECTUAL DISHONESTY would be met with opposition from a black or philo-black. Indeed, anything from or by whites will be fundamentally opposed and stampeded against.

Why appeal to my credentials if whites created that racist system of false merit?

This is awesome! I was laughing as soon as I saw the first reference made to my quote. Yep, this is awesome.

Anonymous said...

Lights in a cloud/pillar of smoke, spinning wheels in the sky, celestial orbs capable of controlling peoples minds and whisking men into 'the heavens', claims of omniscience and the ability to see the future/play the future out in a spectacle of horrid visions in order to influence social change, appearing as a blinding light that renders people immobile and awestruck, claiming to come from 'the heavens'...yeah, UFO's do all that...

And I meant "what would Jesus do" concerning your hateful racism. "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone" and "love thy neighbor as you love your self" and "turn the other cheek" and all that other admirable stuff your Christ said...did you just FORGET it? The hypocrisy your mind must be capable of sustaining is tremendous.

Silent Running said...

Thread hijacking is for "Hilarity," who hopefully will stick to his/her/its word and remain gone.

Doesn't look like it. He or another of his tribe is now posting anonymously.

Anonymous said...

@ Anon 11:28 from yesterday - When people talk about Egypt, especially in the time of Cleopatra, they are talking about lower Egypt, which is the part next to the Mediterranean sea, in North Africa. If we talk about the history of Lousiana, we don't refer to pre Louisiana purchase expanse that was basically all of middle America.

North African civilizations were not black. If you want to get technical, yeah there was a 100 year period in the 3000 year history where a black Kushite king ruled lower Egypt, but they Assyrians kicked them out and drove back south.

Afterwards, as your source explains, they hung on to the Egyptian traditions like calling their leaders Pharaohs etc. Cheers.

Anonymous said...

Karate Kid wasn't black either!

Anonymous said...

That WAS a lot of entertainment with so very little poking. Oh well, on to the next feeding time.

Hirsch said...

"@Hirsch: Keep clinging to your illusions.

p.s. I never said Cleopatra wasn't white. It is, however, a fact that her full racial profile may include some African influence, but I simply don't care."

I don't know who the hell YOU even are, so why would you assume I was debating you? And if you don't care, why did you even bother posting in the first place? Idiot. Go bother someone else.

CWN said...

anonymous 4:14 pm

UFO's do not exist. There are no aliens from other planets. What you call UFO's are simply demonic manifestations.

http://www.alienintrusion.com/main.html#virtual


What would Jesus do about my hateful racism? What hateful racism? Who said I hated colored people? I don't wish to enslave them or lynch them. I wish for them to stop acting like ignorant savages and live proper lives. But blacks don't get that denile is not a river in Egypt.

Facts are not hateful. Facts mixed with some mocking is not hateful. The Negro needs to put down the chicken wings and malt liquor, and stop blamey whitey for his actions.

Hilarity Fellates Rhinos said...

"Although I had been completely unaware of it, there was in existence a whole literature that denied that the ancient Greeks were the inventors of democracy, philosophy, and science. There were books in circulation that claimed that Socrates and Cleopatra were of African descent, and that Greek philosophy had actually been stolen from Egypt.

Ordinarily, if someone has a theory which involves a radical departure from what the experts have professed, he is expected to defend his position by providing evidence in its support. But no one seemed to think it was appropriate to ask for evidence from the instructors who claimed that the Greeks stole their philosophy from Egypt.

Normally, if one has a question about a text that another instructor is using, one simply asks why he or she is using that book. But since this conventional line of inquiry was closed to me, I had to wait till I could raise my questions in a more public context. That opportunity came in February 1993, when Dr. Yosef A. A. ben-Jochannan was invited to give Wellesley's Martin Luther King, Jr. memorial lecture. Posters described Dr. ben-Jochannan as a "distinguished Egyptologist," and indeed that is how he was introduced by the then President of Wellesley College. But I knew from my research in Afrocentric literature that he was not what scholars would ordinarily describe as an Egyptologist, that is a scholar of Egyptian language and civilization. Rather, he was an extreme Afrocentrist, author of many books describing how Greek civilization was stolen from Africa, how Aristotle robbed the library of Alexandria, and how the true Jews are Africans like himself.

I asked him during the question period why he said that Aristotle had come to Egypt with Alexander, and had stolen his philosophy from the Library at Alexandria, when that Library had only been built after his death. Dr. ben-Jochannan was unable to answer the question, and said that he resented the tone of the inquiry. Several students came up to me after the lecture and accused me of racism, suggesting that I had been brainwashed by white historians. But others stayed to hear me out, and I assured Dr. ben-Jochannan that I simply wanted to know what his evidence was: so far as I knew, and I had studied the subject, Aristotle never went to Egypt, and while the date of the Library of Alexandria is not known precisely, it was certainly only built some years after the city was founded, which was after both Aristotle's and Alexander's deaths.

A lecture at which serious questions could not be asked, and in fact were greeted with hostility -- the occasion seemed more like a political rally than an academic event. As if that were not disturbing enough in itself, there was also the strange silence on the part of many of my faculty colleagues. Several of these were well aware that what Dr. ben-Jochannan was saying was factually wrong. One of them said later that she found the lecture so "hopeless" that she decided to say nothing. Were they afraid of being called racists? If so, their behavior was understandable, but not entirely responsible. Didn't we as educators owe it to our students, all our students, to see that they got the best education they could possibly get? And that clearly was what they were not getting in a lecture where they were being told myths disguised as history, and where discussion and analysis had apparently been forbidden.

Anonymous said...

Neither was Ralph Kramden.

Anonymous said...

Yup, you have NOTHING. As you were.

"I was laughing as soon as I saw the first reference made to my quote."

Nervous laughter?

Anon@6:33:

http://wysinger.homestead.com/badarians.html

Either way, orthodoxy will continue to be wrong no matter how many of you sycophants coddle up to it. It is in their interest to promote falsehood and suppress any discoveries that disrupt their cherished time line, because if that were allowed to happen the sacred halls of Darwinian Evolution would be rendered vulnerable to a full-blown invasion from the forgotten truth of old. Any damned anomalous discoveries must be ridiculed, their supporters ridiculed and forced out of their positions. But the truth remains what it is no matter how many serpents attempt to cover it up.

And they know it.

Anonymous said...

CLEOPATRA WAS/HAVE A GREEK HERITAGE OF PTOLOMAIC AGE AND NOT A NIGGER; AFROCENTRISTS CONFUSED AFRICANS WITH CONGOIDS; EGYPTIANS WAS ANCIET CAUCASOIDS MEDITERRANEANS AND NOT CONGOIDS OF CENTRAL AFRICA..!!

Anonymous said...

"The Negro needs to put down the chicken wings and malt liquor, and stop blamey whitey for his actions."

Yeah, that's not hateful or ignorant or totally against everything that Jesus preached at all. Jesus would WANT you to be a stereotypical imbecile who trolled blogs mocking God's creations. He wouldn't want you to love your neighbor or anything. He wouldn't want you to pause before you threw a stone, or an insult, at someone whose actions you didn't approve of and think to yourself "Well, fuck, hey, maybe I do some pretty dumb shit myself!" No, he would want you to hurl the rock, to spew the insult, to ignore the lesson of his life and the blood he shed for you by being a pathetic, bitter and closed off bigot who makes assumptions based on nothing more than the tiny sliver of media he consumes.

By the way, I'm in league with those demons who float around in the sky and rise from the oceans and control the lightning, they send me messages through the ether, and various sacramental entheogens, and Barack Obama is our Antichrist, and we are taking over the entire world with hip-hop and AK-47's. We have placed the Sphinx in the desert, complete with signs of water erosion and African features which cast into question many of the wests most cherished theories, and we have invented rock and roll and horror movies and Halloween to corrupt your daughters and sons. John Dee was our servant, and so was Edward Kelly and so was Crowley, and 007, and R.A.W., and Hitler, and Horbiger, and Erzsebet Bathory, and Shaka Zulu, and Blavastky, and Leary, and Regardie, and Abramelin, and Eliphas Levi, and Weishaupt, and Rosenkreutz, and Hassan I Sabbah, and Malcolm X, and Kennedy, and Washington, and Churchill, and Darwin, and Beethoven, and Mutwa, and Parks, and Stone, and the Masons, and the Rothschilds, and the Rockefellers, and the Atonists, and the Vedantists, and Abyssinians, and the Romans, and the Nubians, and the NOI, and the Aryan Nation, and the Thule Society, and the Theosophists, and the Knights Templar, and the Golden dawn, and Astrum Argentum, and the Setians, and the Raelians, and Streiber, and Carman, Dub, Dother and Dain and Hiram, and Solomon, and Sheba, and Balor, and Joachim, and Boaz, and Strabo, and Mithra, and Elizabeth I, and Mohammad, and Jesus, and John, and Astoroth, and Lucifuge, and Alastor, and Azazel, and Soraki-gaeshi, and Asmodeus, and Fleruty, and Indrid Cole, and Dearg Due, and Satanachia, and Abigor, and Focalor, and Tsurara-onna, and Anubis, and Mammon, and Belial, and Uma-no-ashi, and Caorthannach, and Dagon, and Chiron, and Behemoth, and Harionago, and Horus, the crowned and conquering child, and The Questing Beast, and Habioro, and Lsrahpm, and Laidrom, and Aaetpio, and Bataivah, and Raagiosl, and Ikzhikal, and Edlprnaah, and Nekomata, and Stephen Hawking, and Dulles, and Kenneth Arnold, and Betty & Barney Hill, and the fey, and the Tuatha De Danann, and Leanan Sidhe, and LEGION and countless others. OIT EOGA MLU LN-BAM LML EOAN OOE GZE PLG BASP OI PSEA M OAVAANBBL LN-NIA-O SOB SSNO L EG OOEEON F G-DO BNG SMAN-M MEF-F! We are from the place of the outpouring...only Fire is substantial here. Everything is under control. Do not attempt to think. War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Duck is better than chicken. This will not end well.

Anonymous said...

@Hirsch: Shut up.

@CWN:

"UFO's do not exist. There are no aliens from other planets. What you call UFO's are simply demonic manifestations."

Thanks for clearing that up. So that means that if you've seen an UNIDENTIFIED FLYING 'OBJECT' then what you've really witnessed is simply a demonic manifestation? And God just made all those billions of stars with billions of planets floating around them so human beings could look up and say "ooh, pretty"? I'd have to wonder exactly why he decided put us in one of those decorative systems. Satan also planted dinosaur fossils to confuse people, right? Or were the dinosaurs were really biblical demons! No, wait, the bible never said that so it can't possibly be true.

I love Christian fundamentalists, possibly even more than I love Darwinian fundamentalists! It's like there is a race between them to see who can think less...

UFO's are simply demonic manifestations...

And by the way: EPIC Christianity FAIL. Where is your humility? Where is your Christ-like nature? If Jesus "returned" tomorrow you'd probably mock him too! You sure make a mockery of his teachings.

Anonymous said...

I'm sure the author of The Secret War would be thrilled to know that people are practically plagiarizing her work and presenting it as their own.

Stuff Black People Don't Like said...

Last anon,

What book are you referring too? I looked up "The Secret War" and came up with a book about the war on Jews. Which book do you refer too?



Also, I recommend anyone interest in learning more about Michael Jackson and his Afrocentric views check out this interview from JET magazine in the early 1990s I found.

http://books.google.com/books?id=TcIDAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA56&lpg=PA56&dq=jet+magazine,+remember+the+time,+michael+jackson+eddie+murphy&source=bl&ots=OqC-wV0JCs&sig=sIzd84zPoY7t5qyozYjo9injq1c&hl=en&ei=jmwrTNKgFYbGlQfm7_mZAw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CB8Q6AEwAg#v=onepage&q&f=false

Hirsch said...

@ Anon. "Shut up"? That's what you've been reduced to? Lol. Salaam Alaikum my true Jewish Egyptian Aristotelian brotha. Don't let those white devils use that racist anthropology and archeology to tell you who was and wasn't black. Brotha Mutulu Shabazz Malik, who obtained his PhD by mail has written a book exclusively available from his website which proves Albert Einstein was black and that the atomic bomb was created to devastate the black community. It's called "Heisenberg in Harlem." But these white devils fear true knowledge and try to suppress it from getting out.

Brotha Malik will be speaking at WGU (White Guilt University) about the message contained in his new book. It should be well-received.

CWN said...

Anonymous 8:58 A.M.

95% of all UFO sightings are explained as natural or man made phenomena. The planet Venus accounts for 27% of all sightings.

Now as far as the stars and planets. Humans struggle with its vastness because our comprehension is limited to the created time/space dimensions within which we exist, and it is mind-bending to try and comprehend anything beyond these. Since God is the one who made the universe, it can scarcely be ‘big’ to Him. The planets and stars were made to show God's glory and power. Wanting him to of made life on other planets does not make it so.

The only ones who get confused by dinosaur fossils are evolutionists. Dinosaur and man lived at the same time. The bible even mentions dinosaurs. The book of Job describes two dinosaurs. One is described in chapter 40 starting at verse 15, and the other in chapter 41 starting at verse 1.


"And by the way: EPIC Christianity FAIL. Where is your humility? Where is your Christ-like nature? If Jesus "returned" tomorrow you'd probably mock him too! You sure make a mockery of his teachings."

Wow you are dense. I will answer your question with your own remarks.

"I love Christian fundamentalists, possibly even more than I love Darwinian fundamentalists! It's like there is a race between them to see who can think less..."

Anonymous said...

This video should put an end to the whole debate.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHF558u6Q_8


J.P.

Anonymous said...

@Hirsch: Since you used a woman's enthusiastic support of the theoretical etymology of a phrase, her desire to uplift the minds of the youth and her acceptance of endorsements from a major corporation as some kind of definitive proof that there was no value in her work and then belligerently defended your 'position' I have no patience for your brand of character assassination or your spurious reasoning faculties. So yes, "Shut up" is what I've reduced you to. If you can't present serious information you will not be responded to seriously. Besides, Einstein was black! Everybody knows that! He was an albino.

Anonymous said...

As far as the biblical dinosaurs:

Behemoth was already mentioned, or did you not read the post? Behemoth was a demon, as was Leviathan. Who was a dragon. Who spit flames from his mouth. So I don't think this really qualifies as proof that the bible knew about all the various species of dinosaurs uncovered over the years.

Now. Since I don't prescribe to the same worldview as many of your internet companions on this site, I have the ability to actually discuss these claims and take some elements of them seriously, at least more seriously than most. But, I am far more flexible in what I will consider than you, which gives me an obvious advantage when it comes to studying vast and varied subjects and contemplating the evidence. As such, I have no need to confine everything that comes into my field of awareness into a biblical framework. Due to this I have examined numerous anomalous cases that do not offend my religious convictions since I have none, the vast majority from afar but a few up close and 'personal', and the evidence as I have encountered by no means supports the biblical world view. In fact, it greatly contradicts it, which is just, I believe, one reason for its continued suppression throughout the ages. Like as with race and archaeology, Christian orthodoxy is infamous for destroying, suppressing and/or distorting any and all traces of nearly everything they find that might cause their resource-rich flock to question their lives and beliefs. This is historical fact. Not speculation. It also extends into the bible itself, which has undergone numerous revisions since its original manifestation, whenever that actually was (surprise, there is controversy over this subject as well). Therefore, for you to quote anything from the bible to me as proof of anything other than a statement such as "this was written in such and such edition of the so and so's bible by so and so in the year such and such" is something that I am forced, due to the weight of the evidence, to view as entirely inadequate. In other words, the only thing you can reliably use the bible to prove to me is that in some versions of the bible certain words are written. Behemoth and Leviathan show up in occult grimoires as well. As demons. Not as dinosaurs. So I'd be a lot more interested if you were pursuing a route of speculation that asked the question "Were dinosaurs really biblical demons?" and then proceeded to lay out your case based on numerous other sources, as well as biblical verses as starting points. But we can never have this conversation anyway, as I am an ignorant fried chicken and malt liquor lovin' negro in one compartment of your mind and an ignorant hell-bound heathen and unrepentant sinner in another. And your mind must be compartmentalized in order for you to actually hold those two viewpoints AND to think there is no contradiction whatsoever.

The UFO question is a lot more complicated than you seem to think it is, as is the issue of 'race'.

Anonymous said...

"95% of all UFO sightings are explained as natural or man made phenomena. The planet Venus accounts for 27% of all sightings."

Someone knows how to listen to their government! Are you even aware of what sightings have been attributed to the planet Venus? Since when did Venus make physically impossible arcs in the sky, 180 reversals while traveling at humanly-impossible speeds, turn colors and expand and then disappear?

The strength of your convictions on so many issues is almost impressive.

It's really not a question of "wanting" God "to of made" life on other planets at all. But as far as God is concerned I can see you think you already know his mind so go forth, oh prophet, and spread the Good News.

"Wow you are dense. I will answer your question with your own remarks."

I am not, nor have ever been, nor will ever be a Christian! I was asking YOU! You didn't even come close to answering my question. You merely avoided it because you don't know HOW to answer it because you CAN'T.

CWN said...

Anonymous 9:48 AM

It has nothing to do with the government. Most UFO sightings are infact nothing at all. The ones that do amount to something are demons. It is simply a deception. Satan is the father of lies.

I do know that God did not make life on other planets.

The Bible indicates that the whole creation groans and travails under the weight of sin (Romans 8:18–22). The effect of the Curse following Adam’s Fall was universal. Otherwise what would be the point of God destroying this whole creation to make way for a new heavens and Earth—2 Peter 3:13, Revelation 21:1-5? Therefore, any ETs living elsewhere would have been (unjustly) affected by the Adamic Curse through no fault of their own—they would not have inherited Adam’s sin nature.

When Christ (God) appeared in the flesh, He came to Earth not only to redeem mankind but eventually the whole creation back to Himself (Romans 8:21, Colossians 1:20). However, Christ’s atoning death at Calvary cannot save these hypothetical ETs, because one needs to be a physical descendant of Adam for Christ to be our ‘kinsman-redeemer’ (Isaiah 59:20). Jesus was called ‘the last Adam’ because there was a real first man, Adam (1 Corinthians 15:22,45)—not a first Vulcan, Klin gon etc. This is so a sinless human Substitute takes on the punishment all humans deserve for sin (Isaiah 53:6,10; Matthew 20:28; 1 John 2:2, 4:10), with no need to atone for any (non-existent) sin of his own (Hebrews 7:27).

Since this would mean that any ETs would be lost for eternity when this present creation is destroyed in a fervent heat (2 Peter 3:10, 12), some have wondered whether Christ’s sacrifice might be repeated elsewhere for other beings. However, Christ died once for all (Romans 6:10, 1 Peter 3:18) on the earth. He is not going to be crucified and resurrected again on other planets (Hebrews 9:26). This is confirmed by the fact that the redeemed (earthly) church is known as Christ’s bride (Ephesians 5:22–33; Revelation 19:7–9) in a marriage that will last for eternity.3 Christ is not going to be a polygamist with many other brides from other planets.

The Bible makes no provision for God to redeem any other species, any more than to redeem fallen angels (Hebrews 2:16).

CWN said...

Anonymous 12:58pm

No, Behemoth was not a demon. Behemoth has the following attributes according to Job 40:15-24

It “eats grass like an ox.”
It “moves his tail like a cedar.” (In Hebrew, this literally reads, “he lets hang his tail like a cedar.”)
Its “bones are like beams of bronze,
His ribs like bars of iron.”
“He is the first of the ways of God.”
“He lies under the lotus trees,
In a covert of reeds and marsh.”

Obviously describing a dinosaur. Not a demon. Most likely a brachiosaurus. Leviathan would have most likely been a Kronosaurus.


The history of every culture is filled with stories of fire-breathing dragons. If you think about it, in all the past ages wouldn’t someone have made up a story of a fire-breathing lion or something? Nobody did because the dragon stories are based on truth, and only “dragons” breathed fire. It is easy to imagine Leviathan as a member of the dragon (tanniyn) family. (Plus, Isaiah 27:1 strongly implies this connection.)

Many fossil dinosaur skulls contain unexplained, empty passages. Scientists have not been able to guess the reason for these passages. Would it make sense that some dinosaurs used these passages as “gas tanks” for the combustible mixture used to “breathe fire?

There is plenty of scientific proof for young dinosaurs. A T. Rex was unearthed in the 1990's.When the bones were brought to the Montana State University’s lab, it was noticed that ‘some parts deep inside the long bone of the leg had not completely fossilized.’To find unfossilized dinosaur bone is already an indication more consistent with a young age for the fossils. Mary Schweitzer, the scientist most involved with this find said ‘The lab filled with murmurs of amazement, for I had focused on something inside the vessels that none of us had ever noticed before: tiny round objects, translucent red with a dark center. Then a colleague took one look at them and shouted, “You’ve got red blood cells. You’ve got red blood cells!”

Infact, if you look at drawings and reports of certain groups like aborigines and indians, you can see that they are drawing dinosaurs. You could go on and on.

Anonymous said...

All that 'dinosaurs among humans' evidence points towards humans being in existence for 2 billion years. Which would invalidate both church orthodoxy and archaeological/evolutionary orthodoxy. You should read 'Forbidden Archaeology' by Michael Cremo. It also points towards a theory of human devolution, which arose from the Vedas (which were not penned by 'Aryans' in the sense too many white people believe these days), which would indicate that the great materialistic culture so many of you here worship is actually the corruption of the original Tao, or a gross divergence from correct dharma. And Behemoth is indeed a demon, listed in many grimoires. That doesn't mean dragons and dinosaurs aren't the same, it seems to me that they were, or at least stemmed from the same root. Anyway, I won't argue with you about religion. That's a pointless pursuit, and not very interesting to me.

Anonymous said...

CWN(Christian White Nationalist) stop listening to Kent Hovind, his phd is bogus.

CWN said...

Anonymous 9:44

CWN does not stand for christian white nationalist. And I do not listen to Kent Hovind.

Also, seeing as the earth is not billions of years old, then evolution would not have had time to do anything. Anything written outside of the bible, contradicting it, is false and, not to be given the time of day.

Behemoth was a dinosaur, obviously seen from its description. Any perverted pagan texts are null and void.

Anonymous said...

LOL. It must suck being Christian at times, people making fun of your beliefs all the time. I guess only a strong sense of PRIDE in your race and PRIDE in your religion can compensate for the doubt you must be harboring below the surface, next to all of your masturbatory exploits and other sinful thoughts.

Anonymous said...

I didn't read all the comments so if someone already said this it bears repeating anyway.

The Afrocentric nonsense aside, Cleopatra was of Greek descent not Egyptian. This just shows you how utterly stupid blacks and the media are.

Anonymous said...

LOL, yeah, you're kind of late on that...and you should read more...because you're just showing everyone how utterly stupid you are.

Anonymous said...

Actually it wasn't mentioned and you're just showing what a nonsensical, irrational nigger you are.

Anonymous said...

LOL! Oh no, some white guy called me a nigger! That never happened to me before!

I'm over that shit dumb ass. It doesn't affect me. I'm just wondering why the blog author decided to allow this comment!

Still, I won't respond to your ignorance in kind.

And besides, you weren't pointing out shit because I already know Cleo wasn't black and don't care anyway!

Cheers!

*poof*

(not sure if this comment went through the first time)

Anonymous said...

LOL! Oh no, some white guy called me a nigger! That never happened to me before!

I'm over that shit dumb ass. It doesn't affect me. I'm just wondering why the blog author decided to allow this comment!

Still, I won't respond to your ignorance in kind.

And besides, you weren't pointing out shit because I already know Cleo wasn't black and don't care anyway!

Cheers!

*poof*

Anonymous said...

And I mentioned it. You should really read more. I mentioned it HERE, on this very thread:

http://stuffblackpeopledontlike.blogspot.com/2010/06/124-angelina-jolie-portraying-cleopatra.html?showComment=1277920985062#c6986725538440228181

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

I love how at the beginning of this day's topic it says how Michael Jackson bleached his skin to become white, when in reality he had skin problems like a skin disease where areas on people's skin begin to change colors. If Michael really had bleached his skin it hadn't been done with the purpose to become white. It had been for the purpose to become beautiful.

Everyone knows Michael had self-issues of how he looked and how he had surgery done to do so. This wasn't done to look white, it was far from it. He didn't want to be white, he wanted to be beautiful in his own eyes even though he couldn't see that what he had been first given was natural beauty that should've been kept.

It's sad how uneducated you are and just by that first sentence I can tell you're white, but I already could by the title of this website. You really are quite uneducated. I read this article and most of these "facts" of yours are your opinions.

For example, "had plastic surgery to replace his God-given looks with features that esthetically would be deemed white; and had his hair straightened in an attempt to undo nature, replicating the same techniques that millions of other Black people employ" this fact is an opinion. How do you know blacks replicate the same techniques he supposedly did to become white?

Where is the evidence or proof? Some pictures or information from a reliable source would be conveint to support your response. Same goes with this opinion which was stated as a fact. "Now, the question of where these intellectually-gifted and architecturally-minded geniuses drifted to is a question most Black people never pose nor consider answering: only the celebration of a long-dead civilization that has the geographic advantage of being on the African continent – thus making it Black in origin – is allowed." The fact is weak and is obviously an opinion.

Now do tell us what you really know about blacks considering you aren't one and probably have never taken the time to know one. If so you met one who wasn't very kind and you decided to base a theory consisting of how blacks are inferior, stupid, un-gifted, ect. because of what you've experienced from a few of us. If that's true then you are the kind that's so blinded that they can never understand that you can't base what a whole race is like based upon what a few of its kind has done.

If you are then you should look at your own kind. Skinheads is one of the many bad things that's come from whites. I personally enjoy all races including whites. I'm now going to stop my sense of justice-like rambling so you can take the time to clearly understand how uneducated and racial you are.

Ordinary Citizen

floacist said...

Michael Jackson did not bleach his skin (which is impossible) to become White. He has a skin disorder 'vitiligo'. TV broadcaster Lee Thomas is another famous Black person with this disease. Like Jackson, he covered his blotches with brown make up to even his skin tone. However, as the patches of white skin spread, vitiligo patients often opt for depigmentation therapy. That is why Jackson's skin became lighter gradually. He did not one day wake up and decide to become 'white'.

As for his cosmetic surgery, this has been and ongoing procedure in Hollywood since its conception. I can name tons of famous actors and singers who have had nose jobs (White or otherwise) and other plastic surgery for vanity reasons. It has nothing to do with race.