Wednesday, April 7, 2010

Black People, Behavior Placement and the Media


We'll return to normal posts tomorrow (remember, only posts with a # are part of the official canon of SBPDL), but an article in the April 7 issue of The Wall Street Journal caught our eye that helps explain what our Black History Month Hero series was all about.

More so, the article showcases the ability of television to manipulate and warp the viewers mindset going into the program and upon watching the show have a completely different operational paradigm.

We have argued that sports - and sports alone - helped usher in the relative peaceful integration of Black people into the mainstream white society. Jackie Robinson, Bill Russell, Muhammad Ali and Jim Brown did more for Black people than any Black politician or religious figure could ever dream of doing in helping white America find commonality with them.

Sports helped mainstream positive images of Black people to white people and gave them heroes to cheer for, even if they locked their doors whenever a group of disheveled looking Black people approached their vehicle after leaving the stadium.

Sure, white people still flock to whitopia's for their residences, but Black people have the highest standard of living for members of their race in the world. In America, there is no African diaspora, but a land of opportunity if that Black person is smart enough to seek a career in the government sector where Federally mandated employment laws have made it virtually impossible to fire them.

But we digress, back to the article in question. Entitled What Your TV Is Telling You to do the article reports:

In just one week on NBC, the detectives on "Law and Order" investigated a cash-for-clunkers scam, a nurse on "Mercy" organized a group bike ride, Al Gore made a guest appearance on "30 Rock," and "The Office" turned Dwight Schrute into a cape-wearing superhero obsessed with recycling.

Coincidence? Hardly. NBC Universal planted these eco-friendly elements into scripted television shows to influence viewers and help sell ads.

The tactic—General Electric Co.'s NBC Universal calls it "behavior placement"—is designed to sway viewers to adopt actions they see modeled in their favorite shows. And it helps sell ads to marketers who want to associate their brands with a feel-good, socially aware show.

Unlike with product placement, which can seem jarring to savvy viewers, the goal is that viewers won't really notice that Tina Fey is tossing a plastic bottle into the recycle bin, or that a minor character on "Law and Order: SVU" has switched to energy-saving light bulbs. "People don't want to be hit over the head with it," says NBC Universal Chief Executive Jeff Zucker. "Putting it in programing is what makes it resonate with viewers."...

This is the power of persuasion that NBCU hopes to tap. "Subtle messaging woven into shows mainstreams it, and mainstreaming is an effective way to get a message across," says Lauren Zalaznick, president of NBCU Women & Lifestyle Entertainment Networks, which oversees the effort...

In June, NBCU plans a week in which programming will emphasize healthy eating and exercise: The idea is that viewers will watch the shows and then spring into action. "It's about incorporating a marketer's message into a thematic environment," says Mike Pilot, president of sales and marketing at NBC Universal.

Ladies and gentlemen, you have now learned a marketing secret and behavioral modification technique utilized since the dawn of television to control the masses through what they watch, how they watch it and whom they watch.

Behavior Placement was the strategy behind The Cosby Show, which gave white America a few of a fictional Black family functioning with the grace and dignity usually reserved for a television show featuring white people. Or, real life white people:
Some theorists argue that political and social change is preceded by shifts in popular culture. So it’s not surprising that the debate has heated up over who, or what, in arts and entertainment presaged Barack Obama’s election as president.

Many ideas have ricocheted around academia and the blogosphere — from Oprah Winfrey to Tiger Woods to Will Smith to “The West Wing,” to the many actors who have played black presidents, among them Morgan Freeman and Chris Rock (although not that many people actually saw Mr. Rock’s film “Head of State”).

But one idea seems to be gaining traction, and improbably it has Bill Cosby and Karl Rove in agreement: “The Cosby Show,” which began on NBC in 1984 and depicted the Huxtables, an upwardly mobile black family — a departure from the dysfunction and bickering that had characterized some previous shows about black families — had succeeded in changing racial attitudes enough to make an Obama candidacy possible.

On election night Mr. Rove, the former Bush strategist, said on Fox News: “We’ve had an African-American first family for many years in different forms. When ‘The Cosby Show’ was on, that was America’s family. It wasn’t a black family. It was America’s family.”

Dr. Alvin F. Poussaint, a psychiatrist at the Jude Baker Children’s Center in Boston and a professor at Harvard Medical School who was a script consultant on “The Cosby Show,” said in an interview that “there were a lot of young people who were watching that show who are now of voting age.”

Dr. Poussaint added: “When ‘The Cosby Show’ first came on, it was a professional, middle-class family. And they said, ‘That’s not a black family.’ We heard it from blacks and whites. I think that’s why Karl Rove calls it postracial, because it was universal.”

80 percent of Black children are born out of wedlock. They will never know their father. At best, they'll live the life of Michael Oher. At worse, the life depicted in the film Precious.

Read the article in The Wall Street Journal and put the idea of "behavior placement" into the context of placing Black people into situations in which no precedent in real life would necessitate that casting and you will understand the power of television and movies.

Black History Month Heroes, an on-going series here at SBPDL, showcased Black actors and actresses being cast in roles that had no precedent or historical basis for their on-screen presence.

Black people represent a distinct brand. To most white people, it will always remain foreign and alien. But to television and movie executives, behavior placement is the name of the strategy used to mainstream positive images of Black people when they don't exist in real-life. Well, outside of sports that is.

SBPDL recommends you read this article in the WSJ to understand the world and then turn off your television set. Upon doing so, we recommend you pick up the invaluable book Invictus.

We'll be posting a review of the book (haven't seen the movie yet) later this week, to coincide with our continued coverage of the upcoming World Cup in South Africa.

Again, going with the narrative of sports being the ultimate for the peaceful integration of society, Invictus tells the story of rugby being the tool to finally defeat Apartheid and give birth to Black rule in South Africa:

Despite its cover – Matt Damon in a Springboks shirt playing team captain Francois Pienaar in the book's recent screen adaptation – Invictus is less about South Africa's triumph in the 1995 World Cup than it is about Nelson Mandela's seduction of the country's white population. South Africa's shift from volatility to a state in which the black population rooted as passionately as Afrikaners for the Springboks, once "a metaphor for apartheid's crushing brutality", was largely thanks to Mandela's force of personality, winning over prison guards, ministers and rugby players alike.

Of course, Black rule in South Africa has given birth to the near collapse of that nation, which will soon be hosting the World Cup for all the world to see.

Perhaps you might want to keep your TV set on for this event: network executives won't be forced to introduce any behavior placement strategies in the coverage of the impending carnage overwhelming South Africa.

It will merely be... naturally.

That's why Black people don't like the local nightly news broadcast, for the unpleasant reality of life in 21st America is in full glow.


24 comments:

Critical Thinker said...

I'm afraid I have to actually disagree with a couple of points here in this post.

For one, I wouldn't argue that sports, and sports alone, allowed blacks to better integrate into the mainstream. I think music played an equal if not greater role than sports.

For example, it wasn't black athletes that white hipsters such as Jack Kerouac sought to emulate. Many white Americans eventually came to admire hipsters, who in turn admired black jazz musicians. These hipsters, combined with the radical changes that came with the 60s, are the primary reason why so many white kids use drugs and engage in other destructive and anti-social behaviors as compared to several decades ago.

In many ways, the impact of black musicians on white America has been negative, despite the fact that the music is popular.

Also, I always thought that the illegitimacy rate among blacks was 70%, not 80%.

Though the black illegitimacy rate is atrocious, the white illegitimacy rate is between 25-33%. That isn't exactly comforting. Drug use and drinking also plague white communities.

Don't get me wrong: I'm not one of those self-hating Tim Wise types. I don't romanticize blacks and think they're these wonderful angels. From reading my earlier posts, you know that certainly isn't the case. I know that in many ways blacks are dysfunctional.

However, since we can't control their dysfunction, I believes that whites ought to start focusing more on their internal problems. We need to get rid of drugs, alcohol, and ensure healthier and more active lifestyles for our kids. For all of their rants against whites, black nationalists have also made great efforts to clean up their communities. I think it's time whites started doing the same.

That way, black and anti-racist detractors won't be able to derail this sight by pointing out destructive behaviors whites engage in. I'm tired of so many destructive whites giving anti-racists ammunition.

Rather than focusing so much on blacks, we ought to be focusing more on ourselves and our own lives.

Stuff Black People Don't Like said...

CT -

Music played a minor role. The South would never have capitulated to Black Run America (BRA) were it not for the fear of being denied chances to compete for the national championship in college football.

Thus, the integration of college football meant the downfall of the last region of the nation still in open defiance of Washington DC.

Same with college basketball and then the professional ranks.

I'm working on a book that details the integration of sports from a much different perspective than traditional sports tomes.

I recommend reading Invictus to understand where I'm going with this.

As to the Black illegitmate rate: we are both wrong. It hovers around 73-75 percent.

http://www.thinkinghousewife.com/wp/2010/04/the-lesson-of-black-illegitimacy-and-fatherlessness/

You are correct: We can not control any segment of our society. I have a lot of empathy for Black Nationalists.

White people do behave in a destructive manner. No people has ever produced a perfect society. In a nation that has 180 million white people, you would expect a certain percentage of them to act - to quote the president - stupidly.

Anyways, to get back to your point, there are many reasons for the decline of America and the majority population. You are right to point out the 60s counter-culture that now rests comfortably in the Ivory Towers of Academia.

But were it not for sports, white people would never have developed the odd belief in Black superiority in all athletics, which in turn has created a culture where white athletes succeeding represents a strange enigma.

We have been conditioned to believe such prejudicial thoughts, since we see 10 Black players in any given NBA game on TV or 18 of 22 Black NFL players on the field every Sunday during the Fall.

As to your last comment: this site was created to showcase SBPDL. It has become an aggregate of stories that detail such greivances to the Black community.

If you read the archives, we could have whole sections devoted to various subjects (Wal-Mart oddly is a constant source of hilarity for SBPDL).

Enjoyed your commments. Do you know of any books regarding Black musical contributions that you would recommend?

mark said...

A very readable and interesting work on American popular music is Hole in Our Soul: The Loss of Beauty and Meaning in American Popular Music...by Martha Bayles. She is an African American music critic. Many issues were covered but primarily the loss of "listen - ability" is one of the central points.

mark said...

The unreal dialogue between blacks and whites in America was epitomized by the Cosby Show. The real problems blacks face were avoided and the actual reactions white people have to those problems was never explored. Even Cosby now seems to understand his show was a hoax. Now, he goes around and lectures blacks on their terrible grammar and childish choice of names for their children, amongst other issues. I have heard he gets a lot of stony-faced listeners. The rage blacks often speak of springs, it seems, more from an incomprehensible present than a destructive and distant past.

Critical Thinker said...

Do you know of any books regarding Black musical contributions that you would recommend?

I'm afraid not. However, one doesn't have to be an expert in black history to know that their music profoundly impacted this nation, for better or worse. In many ways, a large portion of white America emulated black musicians (which they in turn were emulating through hipsters), seeing them as cooler and freer than their boring parents. I do think a book analyzing the impact of black music on white America is in order.

As to your last comment: this site was created to showcase SBPDL. It has become an aggregate of stories that detail such greivances to the Black community.

Agreed. This is your site, and it serves a specific purpose. At the same time, while blacks in certain ways do pose somewhat of a threat and at the very least are a burden to whites, whites are their own worst enemies. Since the majority of white people live in mostly white communities with few blacks, their fellow whites pose a greater threat to them than blacks. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't recommend that a white person casually stroll through a ghetto in Oakland, but most of us aren't spending time in black ghettos.

Again, I don't say this due to some self-flagellation and the desire to score points with blacks and the PC Marxist crowd by highlighting white pathology. I'm no Tim Wise. At the same time, I believe that whites Americans have many internal problems, such as drinking and drunk driving, drug use, corporate thuggery, and, or course, the occasional child molesters and school shooters (Though it turns out that blacks also commit a disproportionate amount of serial killings. It's no longer just our thing!). To add to that, white elites (liberals and neo-cons) are the ones encouraging illegal immigration and destructive wars.

I say this because I care about my people and I want to ensure healthier and safer lives for my fellow whites. While blacks certainly have as much, if not more dysfunction than whites, they at least have leaders such as Bill Cosby, Louis Farrakhan, and other black nationalist/conservative (not in the Larry Elder Uncle Tom way) leaders who want to do something about it.

Where's our Bill Cosby? While I enjoy this site, I believe that we whites ought to clean up our own communities. Until then, we'll always open ourselves to fierce anti-racist rebuttals whenever we criticize blacks.

Porter said...

Critical Thinker,

Not that you asked--but while I find your general theme of self-improvement to be sound for all peoples it's difficult to agree with your conclusions, at least as I infer them.

Yes there are dysfunctional whites, but they are the exceptions rather than the rule. With blacks it is practically the reverse. And as I have noted on here before, there will always be exceptions. Societies accomodate or deal with these exceptions, but they are never formed by them. This is why white areas that certainly have drunkards, meth-heads, and wife beaters are still safe, clean, and productive; while black areas that may feature some worthy, intelligent individuals are still violent, dirty, broken, and parasitic.

When you say "I believe that we whites ought to clean up our own communities. Until then..." I'm afraid that until then part isn't going to come--at least on this mortal coil. And if we are compelled to wait for an Earthly Heaven among our own people before we are willing to criticize an Earthly Hell of others, then we are done.

Anonymous said...

Re Where's our Bill Cosby?
Many white Americans have church, group therapy, and helping professionals of all sorts and descriptions. Millions of white people have graduated with advanced degrees in psychology, and there are many, many willing Christian people willing to help with what they have. Can you imagine a hugely dysfunctional fool such as Jeremiah Wright from ever attaining any status in a Christian church which ministers to educated white people?
We don't need a "Bill Cosby" and will never (God willing) see one on TV because he is the vulgar commercial answer to spiritual dilemmas. Underrepresentation in the helping professions means black Americans have to resort to the TV for psychological help. I hope we never sink that low.

Critical Thinker said...

This is why white areas that certainly have drunkards, meth-heads, and wife beaters are still safe, clean, and productive; while black areas that may feature some worthy, intelligent individuals are still violent, dirty, broken, and parasitic.


Of course. I never denied that white areas are better to live in than black areas. That's the reason why blacks are much more likely to prefer integrated neighborhoods than white people. It isn't because they're these loving and tolerant people who want to mix with other races, but rather because their neighborhoods (with a few exceptions) are so lousy.

Again, I'm not there to extol the virtues of black people. I'm not Tim Wise, Molly Secours, or Robert Jensen.

At the same time, we can't control what black people do. What we can control, however, is what goes on in our communities. Overall, are black areas more dangerous and dysfunctional than ours? Definitely. Are blacks a burden to us in many ways? Absolutely.

However, that doesn't absolve us of responsibility to fix our own communities. As white people, we owe it to our friends, lovers, and children to ensure healthier and safer lifestyles for them. If white nationalists would focus on improving white neighborhoods rather than spend all of their time focusing on blacks, then they would enjoy much more support in mainstream white America.

I say all of this as a proud white advocate.

Desiree said...

"Yes there are dysfunctional whites, but they are the exceptions rather than the rule. With blacks it is practically the reverse."

This is typical of whites. Why is it that you guys never want to take responsiblity for the actions of your few, all while telling black people to take responsiblity for ours? It stinks of hypocrisy! But 'tis the modus operandi of the Man. Don't lump us all into one boat if you can't take someone doing the same to you. Because we could do the same: do you know how many white people rape and molest children? But, no one is that stupid--except you--to label every white as a child molester. Also take a trip to Northern NV: those hicks are having a meth crisis (ie. the new crack here). It would do you some good to get it together...

"Overall, are black areas more dangerous and dysfunctional than ours? Definitely. Are blacks a burden to us in many ways? Absolutely."

How are blacks a burden? Are you regretting the slave trade? LOL! If you don't want us to be a burden then give to us (and our Native American brethren) what is rightfully ours: this country. It was their's first and it was we blacks who built it. Also, you'd do mighty fine if you abandon your lily-white privilege. Or you can share--either option is fine by me!


"While I enjoy this site, I believe that we whites ought to clean up our own communities. Until then, we'll always open ourselves to fierce anti-racist rebuttals whenever we criticize blacks....If white nationalists would focus on improving white neighborhoods rather than spend all of their time focusing on blacks, then they would enjoy much more support in mainstream white America."

Well, none of that is going to happen anytime soon because we all *know* some whites love to point out specks while still having planks--I mean *owning* their planks! Hence, this site and the bubble-people who patronize it. Naw, you guys are obsessed. Why does SBPDL have some of those clearly anti-racist sites to the left? To keep watch, of course. Obsession is an ugly thing; get help...

Anonymous said...

Desiree:

You have missed the point. No one is denying that whites in this country do not have our share of problems. The point is that they are nowhere near being to the extent of the problems of the black community, and that the problems in the white community do not disproportionately affect other races, unlike problems in the black community. White meth heads living in rural areas are just a tiny portion of the white population, and do not come even close to being the burden on society that 90% of black children are.
Study shows that 90% of black children between the ages of 1 and 20 years old have or will receive food stamps in their childhood.
http://newsone.com/nation/associated-press/studys-says-90-of-black-children-will-be-on-food-stamps/
The number one killer of black men ages 15 - 34 is homicide, which is overwhelmingly committed at the hands of other blacks. Homicide is the number two killer of black women ages 15 - 24.
http://cofcc.org/2010/03/black-men-are-the-leading-cause-of-death-among-young-blacks/
89% of interracial violence between blacks and whites in this country is black on white.
http://www.racismeantiblanc.bizland.com/005/06-02.htm

THIS is what we are talking about. Stop pretending that the problems in the black and white communities in this country are on equal footing. This assertion is why sites like this exist: We're tired of all this PC bullcrap where the truth and facts are denied to keep black people from getting their feelings hurt.

And yes, the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade is most certainly regrettable. Not only is slavery a moral atrocity, the enslavement of blacks in the Americas has doomed not only white Americans, but every other race that resides on these continents to rampant violence, financial stress, and constant whining by the black race.

Next, blacks most certainly had a hand in building this country, particularly when it comes to agriculture in the South. However to claim that blacks single handily built this country is utterly laughable. Southern agriculture only accounted for a tiny portion of this country's GDP when slavery was legal. This country was founded and primarily built by whites, who were primarily low to middle class sustenance farmers, manual laborers, and factory workers, not rich fat cat slave owners who sat on their duffs while "blacks built this country." Your belief that this is how America was built really goes to demonstrate how poor this nation's education system is.

Porter said...

I should offer an apology to L'Roi if he's reading. I had previously thought he was somewhat incoherent in representing his kind as the "black guy." But to hear Desiree is to luxuriate in the perfect nexus of stupidity and ingrained propaganda.

For nothing other than the amusement of watching a primate hurl its feces...Desiree, we don't ask blacks to take responsibility for the actions of their few, but the actions of their many. Would that only few of you were violent, low-IQ, entitled, societal parasites.

"How are blacks a burden?" They are a burden because they produce nothing other than rap music and rap sheets. And now they don't even win NCAA basketball tournaments.

Give you this country? The one blacks "built?" I wonder what would happen if blacks were handed a first world country? One with cutting edge technology, a nuclear and space program, and first rate medical facilities and infrastructure. Actually we don't have to wonder. It's called South Africa and it's now the most dangerous diseased cesspool on the planet--other black countries not withstanding.

I would be happy to give you other countries though. Haiti? Liberia? Zambia? Mozambique? In any of these black paradises, you could be free of "white privilege" with a bone through your nose and dead of old age at 42. Truly, my heart aches for the blacks who must live in our midst.

Anonymous said...

Desiree,

"This is typical of whites. Why is it that you guys never want to take responsiblity for the actions of your few, all while telling black people to take responsiblity for ours? It stinks of hypocrisy! But 'tis the modus operandi of the Man. Don't lump us all into one boat if you can't take someone doing the same to you. Because we could do the same: do you know how many white people rape and molest children? But, no one is that stupid--except you--to label every white as a child molester. Also take a trip to Northern NV: those hicks are having a meth crisis (ie. the new crack here). It would do you some good to get it together..."


Excuses excuses. Why must blacks always make excuses for their horrible behavior? Blacks always want to shift the blame. You can do better then that baby. Talking about white child molesters and druggies will not change the facts. You just make yourself part of the problem, rather than part of the solution. Do you hate black people?

"How are blacks a burden? Are you regretting the slave trade? LOL! If you don't want us to be a burden then give to us (and our Native American brethren) what is rightfully ours: this country. It was their's first and it was we blacks who built it. Also, you'd do mighty fine if you abandon your lily-white privilege. Or you can share--either option is fine by me!"


Blacks are a burden because of their behavior and racism. Their violence, rudeness, anti social behavior. Plus, their love of sucking at the governments teat's. Their wardrobe, ebonics, and nappy hair is not that appealing either. And yes, slavery was a big mistake. Whites taking out spear chucking savages, who were drinking zebra piss and bathing in flies and dung; Bringing them to America where to this day they are better off than their African counter parts. Yet blacks are still ingrates about this great opportunity given to them by the white man.

This country is not yours tho. White men founded it, set it up, and still hold the burden of running it properly to this day. Blacks do not have the intelligence to set up something like America. They cannot govern themselves. That is why white countries are always better than black third world countries.

"Well, none of that is going to happen anytime soon because we all *know* some whites love to point out specks while still having planks--I mean *owning* their planks! Hence, this site and the bubble-people who patronize it. Naw, you guys are obsessed. Why does SBPDL have some of those clearly anti-racist sites to the left? To keep watch, of course. Obsession is an ugly thing; get help..."

Sista please. What we do know, is that blacks will always blame their short comings on slavery and white people. A black woman has some illegitimate litter of little nappy savages without a husband, it is because of slavery and the white man. A black man rapes and murders a white woman, this is again because of slavery and white people. Blacks ruin their neighborhoods, and they kill one another. All because of slavery and white people. ETC.ETC.

I mean - come on! You can have a Billion Man March! If you don't put down that malt liquor and chicken wings, and get behind someone other than a running back who stabs his wife, then you won't get very far. Now will you, boo?


CWN

Phalluster said...

it is my pleasure to drop knowledge onto your heads like a gluttonous pigeon. whites have only ever been the majority in america, so they account for much of the weirdo crimes. here's a math-themed breakdown:

http://www.lagriffedulion.f2s.com/serial.htm

indeed, the dc snipers were only a beginning. as minorities overrun the country, so will serial killers of other races. preemptive congratulations to all on this melting-pot achievement!!!

meanwhile, the bell-curve argument holds true across the board. blacks have a taller, more narrow curve selecting for violent crime, falling to the right of whites. women have a taller, thinner curve for intelligence, but with the same mean and median IQ. asians are short, but yao ming is tall. same shit.

Anonymous said...

Desiree-

I'll make you a deal. I'll stop lumping people into groups and treating them as members of groups instead of individuals just as soon as insurance companies stop doing it.

Until the day I turned 25,I paid collision insurance rate that I thought were purely outrageous. I didn't pay high rates because I was a reckless driver,because I wasn't a reckless driver then,and I'm not one now.

But the people working for insurance companies know damned good and well that males in their teens and early twenties are horrible risks. The kids have testosterone running out their noses,and are absolutely certain that they're 9 feet tall,bulletproof,and invisible. This translates to a high risk of accidents involving motor vehicles,and in fact,translates to a high risk of accidents that involve pretty much any piece of equipment that has more than two moving parts.

And if the equipment in question has no moving parts at all,then there is still a damned good chance that some kid will find a way to hurt himself with it.

So I got the "benefit" of having to pay out the nose because everyone else my age was out wrecking cars every other Saturday night. That's life. And there wasn't a damned thing I could do about it.

So,when you can sit there and tell me that insurance companies no longer use stereotypes based on age,race,and sex,then and only then will I consider not avoiding black folks in general. Here's why:

Assume I am approached by a black male in his mid-twenties. I do not know why this man is approaching me. I do,however,know that black men in his age group stand a 1 in 3 chance of being involved with the criminal justice system. So there's a 33% chance that he is a criminal,right there,before anything gets said,or any sort of interaction takes place. (Actually,given that it takes on average 4 or 5 tries to actually get sent to jail in this country,the chance of him being a criminal is higher than 33%,but how much higher is open to question.)

So here's my choice:

I can stand still,and take my chances,or I can remove myself from this man's presence. I'll leave,because in my view,the chance of being robbed or beaten isn't worth the risk of just possibly missing out on meeting a decent individual. Throw in the very real chance of being charged under hate crime laws if the guy does try something and I defend myself successfully,and you might begin to see why most sensible people want nothing to do with blacks.

Anonymous said...

Oh-and Desiree....

Regarding being approached by a black man.

In the states where concealed carry is allowed,the choice for the individual being approached is no longer limited to "leave" or "stay and risk being assaulted." There happens to be another choice,for those fortunate enough to live in such places.

Critical Thinker said...

Desiree

How are blacks a burden? I don't know. Perhaps it has something to do with turning once great cities into war zones (I know, you'll blame white flight and racism). Perhaps it has something to do with the constant whining and demands. Perhaps it has something to do with the constant battles over "equity" and "integration." Perhaps it has to do with perpetual racial conflict and grievances.

Are you regretting the slave trade? LOL! If you don't want us to be a burden then give to us (and our Native American brethren) what is rightfully ours: this country

Don't make me laugh! First of all, this wasn't a Native American "country." They were these violent, nomadic warring tribes. Nothing more, nothing less. This land only became a country when white men founded it. Secondly, your race didn't "build" this country. If anything, slavery was more of a burden than a benefit. A successful Capitalistic economy requires free labor, not slave labor. Is it any coincidence that the former slave states are the poorest in the country? Methinks not. To the extent that your race did "build" this country, you contributed in the same way that draft animals did: by laboring under the direction of whites.

Tell you what? We'll give you some money and let you live in Africa, free from the devilish white man. Deal?

P.S. Who are you calling obsessed? We aren't the ones insinuating that certain people only think the way they do because they have small dicks and are subconscious homosexuals who want to bang black men. By the way, did your white grandfather have a small dick? Because either way, he certainly managed to knock up your grandmother and produce a mulatto child!

Desiree said...

@Critical Thinker:

No, no...you guys are obsessed. I'm pretty sure of that. Only people harboring deep-rooted obsessions can create such delusional, self-satisfying fantasies about black inferiority. Your race founded a Matrix of lies and brutality because they were fearful of their own inadequacy being exposed. This is truth. And re: my granddad--he probably did have a small penis. I can guarantee it! I wouldn't be surprised if that was a rape; that is within that southern redneck blood! (why are you still hung up on penises?)
Oh, and don't give me that crap about the Native Americans being violent (isn't that the pot calling the kettle black?). Their land was stolen through systematic genocide and cultural warfare; that is a fact. I can safely say blacks built this country because whites were self-righteous brutes who were too lazy too build it themselves. Words on a document mean nothing if you can't produce anything tangible...
By your previous lamenting, I thought you had turned over a new leaf towards enlightenment! I guess I was wrong; still hateful as ever! *shrugs*

@Porter:

I'm an ape throwing feces? Okay...but you don't get points for that one; it's been used. You can happily ignore the truth and wallow in global revisionist history. That is fine. I won't bother to address you further because smug, self-satisfied ignorance turns my stomach. Keep dreamin' your dream, my man! America the Beautiful! You've did well...

Desiree said...

@CWN:

LOL! Your backward comments always seem to make me giggle. Thank you! <3

Anyway, where do you live? In some integrated trailer park? Because you talk about some terrible shit. You must've been immasculated by someone of color. Yes, that is it. Because there is no way you live in a normal city where people of all colors live civilly amongst each other, like I do. Must be a shithole?

Also, you never say anything intelligent. I don't hate my own people. I am deeply troubled within my heart that we have to live in a system of racism and psychological brutality. That American white supremacy picks poor black youths out of the ghetto and turns them into entertainment fodder, only to trample them underfoot when they fail to conform to the Man's unrealistic and entrapment-like expectations. they then become manufactured examples of whites should hate, fear, resent, etc. You cannot possibly comprehend what I am saying because you have been born into privilege. I don't blame every individual black problem on the Man, although on the broader level he is *most certainly* to blame.

Quit with the 'savage' talk and the other uninformed bigotted rhetoric ('nappy hair' is unattractive? thank you for proving my point about the systematic global conspiracy to keep all things black at the bottom! sheesh!). It only makes you look hopelessly stupid when you go on to call black people 'racist'. How? Can you articulate how *we* are racist? Please--'enlighten' me and make it GOOD.

""Well, none of that is going to happen anytime soon because we all *know* some whites love to point out specks while still having planks--I mean *owning* their planks! Hence, this site and the bubble-people who patronize it. Naw, you guys are obsessed. Why does SBPDL have some of those clearly anti-racist sites to the left? To keep watch, of course. Obsession is an ugly thing; get help..."

Sista please. What we do know, is that blacks will always blame their short comings on slavery and white people. A black woman has some illegitimate litter of little nappy savages without a husband, it is because of slavery and the white man. A black man rapes and murders a white woman, this is again because of slavery and white people. Blacks ruin their neighborhoods, and they kill one another. All because of slavery and white people. ETC.ETC."

The fact you ignored my pointing out your constant patronage of this site is telling. You can't give it up! The only way you can feel good about your wretched existence is to point to or create someone who is 'less than'. You do realize that that is *tragically* pathetic and indicative of your loser-status...

Critical Thinker said...

(why are you still hung up on penises?)

Gee, I don't know, maybe it has something to do with the fact that your perverted self brought it up in the first place!

I can safely say blacks built this country because whites were self-righteous brutes who were too lazy too build it themselves.

Again, slavery was just as much of a burden as it was a benefit. Also, you did not "build" this country. That's like saying that the Hebrews built the pyramids. No, they provided the menial labor, but the Egyptians envisioned the pyramids. Similarly, whites envisioned this country. You guys were just sidekicks who labored under our direction.

By your previous lamenting, I thought you had turned over a new leaf towards enlightenment! I guess I was wrong; still hateful as ever! *shrugs*

Just because I believe in white self-improvement and criticism doesn't mean I have any love for blacks. Mrs. black history, you should know that Marcus Garvey and Malcolm X espoused self-improvement without becoming Uncle Toms. Likewise, I can implore my people to improve without becoming a self-hating anti-racist.

Porter said...

"smug, self-satisfied ignorance turns my stomach." Then your poor tummy must ache each time you pass a mirror; and the feces is flung. But as to what I am "ignorant" of is your closely guarded secret. Please, do tell. Again, the failure of your kind to comprehend the non-sequitur.

The interesting thing about the senseless position of this senseless child is how common it is even among pseudo-intelligent adult blacks. Their hypothesis: whites oppress blacks and keep them from realizing their true glorious potential. Well, this is quite an easy enough theory to test given all of the available control group populations in the world today.

If whites apply strong downward pressure on black actualization, then black standards of living and achievements will increase as sub-populations are less exposed to whites, reaching their zenith in populations completely free of white presence (i.e., oppression). Thus one would expect blacks to have the briefest lifespans, lowest incomes, worst medical care, and poorest access to technology, food, and housing in Europe and America, where whites are most common.

Conversely, the hypothesis would demand that blacks in deepest Africa, where white "oppression" is nonexistent, should have constructed gleaming societies of the highest culture and achievement. One that even exports food and technology to more benighted regions of the world.

Is this the observable state of affairs?

Desiree said...

@critical thinker:

LOL! No, I'm pretty sure I didn't bring up penises this time. Yep, I'm postive. You just have a one-track mind. Seriously, keep up! (How am I a pervert for ever bringing up penises? LOL. Silly, ritz...)

Without labor, there would be no pyramids. I think you should get out of lalaland. I forgot to mention: you say a good capitalistic country works on free, not forced, labor. No labor is free in a capitalistic system. Just because workers are not driven by a whip doesn't make it free. In a capitalistic society like the US, every *necessity* in life has been given a monetary value, ie. the new whip. They planned that out. So, people must work for the necessities essential to life and the capitalists benefit from the labor. Hello?! You can keep on being irrational and backward if you want but I'm telling the truth. Blacks built this country, at *least* until the industrial revolution; without black slaves America wouldn't have had much of the money it had, being a new country and all...

No, I was thinking that you were starting to 'get it' when you basically said white racists should get it together and stop focusing on black people all the time. But, as usual, that is your crack. You can't get enough! The best way white people can improve their communities is to stop being closed-off, racist baffoons. That way we can all band together and help each other. Harmony and equality.

Critical Thinker said...

No labor is free in a capitalistic system. So, people must work for the necessities essential to life

Wow! So I guess people should just have everything handed to them, huh? I do believe in a safety net for the working poor and lower middle class, but people should work to live. You don't work, you don't eat or get to live in a decent house (unless you're a kid). Oh well, I expect nothing less from a Marxist, which is what you sound like.

No, I was thinking that you were starting to 'get it' when you basically said white racists should get it together and stop focusing on black people all the time. The best way white people can improve their communities is to stop being closed-off, racist baffoons.

Obviously, you misinterpreted what I said. I never said that white "racists" should get it together by becoming black loving anti-racists. What I was advocating is internal improvement and reform, similar to the way black nationalists espouse self-improvement and self-determination. Just because I believe whites should clean up their communities and focus more on themselves than blacks doesn't mean I have any love for blacks. Besides, the fact that whiny negroes like you continue to be a thorn in our side makes it hard for us to not focus on you.

That way we can all band together and help each other. Harmony and equality.

Yeah, like that's going to happen! Hate to break it to you, but your utopia isn't going to happen.

P.S. for the final time, your race did not "build" this country. You simply labored under the direction of whites. Any drone can perform menial labor.

CWN said...

Desiree,

"LOL! Your backward comments always seem to make me giggle."

Ofcourse, backwards, forwards, sideways, highways, my comments are always accurate and beautifully written.

"Also, you never say anything intelligent. I don't hate my own people."

Oh, But you must. You always make excuses for black savage behavior, instead of dealing with and confronting it. You must want to keep a brotha down. Otherwise, you would drop the typical, mumbo jumbo, race bating, victim hood act. And you would deal with the realities of your peoples. You be keepin it real, son.

You also keep talking about some nonsense called privilage. Is this the same privilage that your mother got at stanford? The handouts from the government to blacks? The affirmative action? Hud housing? College funds? Loans? double standards? That privilage? As I have said before, I am still waiting for my slavery check in the mail.

"Quit with the 'savage' talk and the other uninformed bigotted rhetoric ('nappy hair' is unattractive?"

Why would any of that be bigotted? Savage is an accurate term ,considering the inhuman acts that blacks do to both themselves and to whites. Plus, even blacks consider nappy hair unattractive. Black women go get weaves and straighten their hair to look like white hair. It is all accurate. The truth is not bigotted. Nobody likes a savage with nappy hair.

"The fact you ignored my pointing out your constant patronage of this site is telling."

Ofcourse it is telling silly girl. It is telling you that you should not ask stupid questions; And expect a fine white brother like myself to answer them.

I come here to talk about the black plight on society. And to correct people like yourself. I am a humanitarian really. And no thanks is needed.

Anita said...

1) The illegitimacy rate is 70% and that includes families in which the father and mother are living together which is okay the father is present. My parents have been together for 31years this year and no they have never been married but we have been a happy family most black families are like this.

2) your assertions that "80 percent of Black children are born out of wedlock. They will never know their father. At best, they'll live the life of Michael Oher. At worse, the life depicted in the film Precious" is copletely out context most black fathers are involved in their kids life and just because your media doeant show them doeant mean they arent.

@CWN,

Talk the plight of blacks? Really How? you know a handful of black and suddenly you know our plight? since when?
Who said most black people find nappy hair unattractive? Hard to manage? Maybe but hardly unattractive
You may find blacks savages and nappy hair unattractive but dont you dare generalise black people!
You arent a humanitarian you are just an educated scum!