Sunday, July 3, 2011

Why isn't "Captain America: The First Avenger" coming out in theaters on July 4th?

Editors note: On July 22, 2011, a short book on superheroes and whiteness will be released. Expect to see a few Web sites carry an article or two (in truncated form) that will be featured in this tome. This is a passion of mine - along with college football - and the date coincides with the release of Captain America: The First Avenger.

Captain America finding out Will Smith wasn't cast to play him
Fitting that Harvard University would publish a study - Shaping the Nation: Estimating the Impact of Fourth of July Using a Natural Experiment - that finds July 4th parades as nothing more than jingoistic events that benefit Republicans only:
Democratic political candidates can skip this weekend's July 4th parades. A new Harvard University study finds that July 4th parades energize only Republicans, turn kids into Republicans, and help to boost the GOP turnout of adults on Election Day.

"Fourth of July celebrations in the United States shape the nation's political landscape by forming beliefs and increasing participation, primarily in favor of the Republican Party," said the report from Harvard.

"The political right has been more successful in appropriating American patriotism and its symbols during the 20th century. Survey evidence also confirms that Republicans consider themselves more patriotic than Democrats. According to this interpretation, there is a political congruence between the patriotism promoted on Fourth of July and the values associated with the Republican party. Fourth of July celebrations in Republican dominated counties may thus be more politically biased events that socialize children into Republicans," write Harvard Kennedy School Assistant Professor David Yanagizawa-Drott and Bocconi University Assistant Professor Andreas Madestam. [Enjoy political cartoons about President Obama.]

Their findings also suggest that Democrats gain nothing from July 4th parades, likely a shocking result for all the Democratic politicians who march in them. [Check out editorial cartoons about the Democrats.]

"There is no evidence of an increased likelihood of identifying as a Democrat, indicating that Fourth of July shifts preferences to the right rather than increasing political polarization," the two wrote.
We live in a nation where the United States national soccer team was booed viciously on American soil, in what amounted to a 'home game' for the visiting Mexican national team in Los Angeles:
Speaking to the LA Times, Mexican supporter Victor Sanchez said: 'I love this country, it has given me everything that I have, and I'm proud to be part of it.'

The 37-year-old Monrovia resident reflected the sentiment of most of the 93,000 strong crowd when he added: 'But yet, I didn't have a choice to come here, I was born in Mexico, and that is where my heart will always be.'
The question you have to ask yourself is simply this: "In an increasingly diverse nation, where racial loyalties supersede any bonds of commonality to the United States history (past, present, or future), what is the point of celebrating July 4th anymore?"

When the history is of the United States is nothing more than white males dominating People of Color (PoC); creating white privilege; exploiting Black people for their slave labor; and demonizing immigrants who risk everything and leave behind their nation for the chance to succeed in America, what hope does July 4th have anymore to instill pride in PoC who are taught to loathe and despise this country?

In short, it doesn't. July 4th was always a holiday celebrated by white people, who in 1964 represented 90 percent of this nations citizens. As the Republican Party becomes the de-facto 'white' party, it only makes sense for July 4th parades to become the dividing line between what constitutes the old concept of 'American' with the Democrats concept of the PoC rainbow coalition. 

Disingenuous White Liberals (DWLs) hate July 4th, because deep within many of the Untouchable White people throughout this land some connection to Pre-Obama America still exists, and with that, the belief that an actual nation worth defending is still there. 

But you must remember one of the two most important comic book characters and iconic figures in all of American pop culture turned his back on 'truth, justice and the American way' recently (read What is Superman Renouncing?) and the words of James Kilpatrick from an article at Alternative Right will help show that celebrating July 4th is an anachronistic activity at this point:
In the same way, Superman, Batman, and other iconic American characters once reflected certain aspects of the American experience but have since become brands. Killing off characters only to bring them back and creating drastic character changes straight out of pro wrestling only create short-term profit spikes and news-cycle mentions. The larger significance and importance of characters that were once national icons are slowly drained away.

Of course, in some ways, Superman is not really abandoning America, but fulfilling it. American conservatives, the self-defined champions of the Constitution, the Flag, and the Troops, have set themselves up for this by creating an American patriotism divorced from any particular attachment to an American nation. To the American conservative movement, America is to be a universal nation, where anyone from any background can come to a land of freedom and fulfill their dreams.  When Barack Obama noted that presumably people in every country have a national dream, conservatives pounced, claiming that ours is superior precisely because America is the purest exemplar of universal values of freedom, equality of opportunity, and prosperity.
It is only in comic books that some concept of the United States still exists: the villains and criminals are all still white guys (a departure from real world crime rates); the nation appears to be permanently stuck in 1960s American demographics; and Superman renouncing his U.S. citizenship is meaningful in any way, when the concepts he vowed to defend have long died.

But it is one character whose debut on the big screen (discounting the horrible early 1990s film) curiously doesn't coincide with July 4th that has scratching our head. Steve Rogers, that 4F weakling who volunteered for a military experiment and became the super soldier known as Captain America, will see his story told on July 22 with the release of Captain America: The First Avenger.

Knowing that we live in Black-Run America (BRA) it would be wise to point out that in Marvel Comics lore (as of 2002), Rogers was retconned as the second Captain America with a Black person being the original, an obvious homage to the hoax known as the dastardly Tuskegee Experiment.

Just as July 4th parades are seen as a way to turn kids into Republicans - the 'purported' party for white people - and have them love the flag, daring to release Captain America: The First Avenger over the July 4th weekend in theaters would wrap this film in a saccharine patriotism that should no longer exist.

White people can have no heroes anymore and daring to make Captain America a hero on par with Will Smith would be heresy. Wait, you forgot that July 4th was designated as "The Release of the Latest Will Smith" movie?:

I just realized something. None of this matters. A critique of Hancock is an essay in irrelevance. It's Independence Day Week, and six times since 1996, that's meant a Will Smith movie — a mega-giga-gigantic hit. Independence Day; Men in Black; Wild Wild West; Men in Black II; I, Robot: He shows up, people line up. Thomas Jefferson used to own this holiday, but now the former Fresh Prince does. So why should critics even bother to review a new Will Smith movie? You'll go see it anyway. 

It's my theory — and I have the stats to back me up — that Hollywood is in its first ever post-movie-star era. Big celebrity names no longer guarantee box-office hits. Casting dramatic stars like Tom Hanks, George Clooney, Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise, Julia Roberts, Cate Blanchett, Angelina Jolie, etc., no longer guarantees a movie's commercial success; and the more reliable comedy stars, from Adam Sandler to Ben Stiller, lose much of their audiences when they try something a little different. 

To all this, Smith would say ha, and rightly so, since he's the big exception. He actually deserves that overused epithet "the last movie star." For more than a decade, he's been immune to moviegoers' fickle fashions. His films have earned $4.5 billion worldwide. And except for his pro bono work in Ali (for which he won an Academy Award nomination) and Robert Redford's The Legend of Bagger Vance, every Will Smith movie has been a hit or smash, earning at least $100 million in North America and another $100 million or more abroad. Sometimes lots more.
Strangely, Smith's charisma (and movies with Black leads) seem to only 'go over' with American audiences, as international audiences sour to films with Black characters:

As The New York Times reported in a long feature yesterday, Dreamgirls has earned more than $101 million in the U.S. and Canada, but Paramount expects it will make little more than $60 million abroad. Which is particularly problematic in an era when Hollywood increasingly depends on foreign box office to drive profits. These days, 52 percent of movie earnings come from international markets. As BET Networks entertainment president and House Party director Reginald Hudlin says in the Times‘ story, "I always call international the new South. In the old days, they told you black films don’t travel down South. Now they say it’s not going to travel overseas." At home, frequent box office champ Will Smith seems like the biggest star on the planet, but the Times quotes industry watcher James Ulmer as saying that Smith ranks no better than No. 12 in terms of worldwide bankability. 

Who’s to blame? "The international marketplace is still fairly racist," Ulmer tells the Times.
 When you remember white action stars are slowly giving way to a world governed by Fast and the Furious (a guy like Thomas Jane is 'too white' to star in an action flick), you'll understand that Will Smith is seen as bigger then spandex wearing white people trying to save the world yet again. For more on Will Smith, check out Hollywood in Blackface. He is seen by many as the real Captain America:

Box office champ Will Smith has become as synonymous with the Fourth of July as fireworks and backyard barbecues — but the star says he takes nothing for granted as he opens yet another summer holiday blockbuster with his new action film, “Hancock.”

“I feel like I have a relationship with the audience,” Smith told Matt Lauer on the TODAY set, winding his way through a cheering throng of fans. “They agree they are going to go in droves, and I agree that every time they go, it’s going to be better than the last time.”

Smith, 39, has launched such all-time action hits as “Independence Day” and “Men in Black” on Fourth of July weekends past.

Smith, whose films have grossed more than $4 billion in his prolific career, told Lauer he plans to play the real-life role of public advocate for Barack Obama’s election this fall — saying he can already feel the mood of the world tilting toward America as a result of Obama’s campaign.

“I just came back from Moscow, Berlin, London and Paris, and I’ve been there quite a few times in the past five to 10 years,” Smith said. “It just hasn’t been a good thing to be American. And this is the first time since Barack has gotten the nomination that it was a good thing.”When Lauer countered, “Do you think people can’t get behind America led by John McCain?” Smith said: “There’s certain ideas I believe Obama stands for that are fundamental, that the forefathers of this country wrote down on paper that we’re all supposed to pay attention to, and we’re not supposed to ignore it and do what we want to do because we have different ideas.”
Why is this not coming out on July 4th?
Though in the real world it is almost exclusively white people saving and defending Black-Run America, movies must no longer have a white superhero. Rumors persisted for years that Will Smith was going to be offered the role of Captain America, something incredibly hard to believe considering the United States Military was segregated during World War II. It is unknown if there is veracity in these rumors:
Just when you thought Marvel was trying to get a blue-eyed, blonde-haired muscle head to play Captain America in their upcoming live-action flick, MTV sneaks onto the scene with one whopper of a rumor. While speaking to Derek Luke about Miracle at St. Anna up in Toronto, the actor let slip that, as far as he knows, Will Smith was offered the part of Captain America. Bet you didn't see that one coming.
Chris Evans will play the part of Captain America in the film debuting on July 22, but you can bet that had Will Smith been cast in the role the film would have debuted on July 4th (or July 4th weekend). Having a white dude synonymous with the red, white, and blue is draconian and an image that can no longer be tolerated.

Some writers, including Jeff Sneider at The Wrap, attacked the whiteness of the character of Captain America. Attacking whiteness of Captain America is attacking the foundations of this nation and as the late Sam Francis correctly pointed out about then Senator Barack Obama after his 2004 Democratic Convention address:
Mr. Obama in other words is both a living testament to the power of black racial consciousness and identity and at the very same time a living renunciation of white racial identity. 

He joins Tiger Woods and Halle Berry as the model of what the New American is supposed to be—the multiracial utopia where every racial identity is legitimate except that of whites.

As Mr. Tilove notes, Mr. Obama "can argue for policies virtually indistinguishable from Sharpton's in cooler, non-racial terms, while still affirming a message of racial identity and uplift implicit in his very being." 

"I think he is talking about race when he's not," Professor Dillard says. "Something about the way he pitches things is perfect for this moment." 

And what is "this moment" exactly? It's the moment when America ceases to be a nation defined and characterized by the white racial identity of its founders and historic population and is transformed into the non-white multiracial empire symbolized and led by "people like Obama."
So now you know why Captain America: The First Avenger couldn't come out over the highly logical July 4th weekend. What's more American then Captain America, fighting to win World War II and being the ultimate embodiment of the dictum E pluribus unum?

Well, when you remember that the United States soccer team was booed by Mexicans who have colonized Los Angeles - ethnically cleansing Black people from Compton in the process - you realize quickly that Captain America, a blue-eyed and blond hair warrior, can't go the way of July 4th parades.


Anonymous said...

Loved the lines from James Kilpatrick. He perfectly describes the situation conservatives have created for themselves. In a nutshell, "American" has become so inclusive that it no longer means anything. It has been cheapened beyond all recognition. About the only things conservatives can rally around this 4th of July is going to be what country to invade next and how America is NOT white.

Anonymous said...

Ret'd LAPD here. The 4th of July is popular among conservatives because it speaks about God, family, country, and liberation from tyranny. These are unimportant to liberals, that is why you will see their ranks swell at abortion rallies, anti-government riots and anti-cop demonstrations, with no conservatives in attendance.

As for the Tuskegee Experiment, I remember the TV movie about it starring Alfre Woodard. There is a scene where a white doctor is talking to the black men and based on the looks on their faces, it's as if he was speaking Russian. They were completely confused. Woodard sees this and proceeds to translate for the doctor to the black men in ebonics.

Will Smith plays the same type of character in all his movies, a jive talkin' fill-in-the-blank. With Hollywood's adulation of blacks and commitment to painting them in a better light than how they are in society, many whites try to "prove" they're not racist and spend the money on one of his flicks.

Discard said...

It is good that these foreign imports keep and express their alien loyalties. When the time to make The Great Sort comes, that will make our job easier.

Anonymous said...

I think this blog is great, I read it everyday. the superhero movie (i understand is your forte)phenomenon is just a symbol in my opinion of a tastless society, that is recycling old material and has been doing so since about the 60s. you make a good point about the standard white male character and how it has been eroded. but I think that really what has happened is that the non-white groups have culturally "hollowed out" america and the shell remains and this is the shell. empty movies about comic books from the 40s. World war 2 is constantly brought up again and again because it was our high point, but now our civilization is a husk inhabited by 3rd world imbiciles. the "successful" black man or what have you still ascribes somewhat to the traditional ideals that Capt. america symbolizes, but think that as it is like a mask or a charade on the part of the black to seem assimilated, it is now hollow and meaningless. just like recylced material from the 40s, seventy year old ideas.

Black & Proud said...

Look at that Successful Black man, Judge Perry who is presiding over the Casey Anthony case.

Frankly, I'm not surprised, considering how high profile and contentious the Casey Anthony case is, that a white prosecutor and a Hispanic defense attorney have to rely on the good judgement of an Afro-American.

Where is your article on Judge Perry, a successful Judge, presiding over one of the most high-profile cases in US history.

Eat your hearts out Paul and the rest of SBPDL'ers

Anonymous said...

First, that Judge Perry comment is hysterical. I haven't followed this trial but he's obviously AA and incoherent when I saw a short clip.

Second, I don't watch Will Smiff movies on principle-- or any of these other garbage culture droppings. The Pursuit of Nappyness was fantasy through and through.

The shell IS brittle. Soon it will break. Genetics is something else again. Trust in genetics and you won't go wrong. The blood will tell...

Playing Roots Backwards said...

I observed something thirty years ago that probably partly explains why American movies with Black stars don't do well in the international market.

I was about to place my order in a Chinese restaurant in Brooklyn Center, Minnesota, back when that city was about 99% White, when a big, belligerent-looking buck went pimp-strutting past the floor to ceiling front windows. My little generic Asian waitress, maybe Korean, watched the boon put on his show with a disturbed brow. After he was beyond the restaurant's entrance she said, "I am glad he did not come into here. American Africans say things too loud and they look like monsters."

Yeah, I realize that that one incident falls a bit short of being a comprehensive international sampling of potential movie-goers, but I truly believe that my waitress revealed some feelings that movie producers would do well to consider.

Since that day in Brooklyn Center I have heard of many incidents that confirm that East Asians who live in the U.S. don't get along well with Blacks. In a few areas, such as Frogtown in St, Paul, MN, Vietnamese people have proven that they are even more effective than Mexicans when it comes to displacing Blacks. So why would anybody expect their relatives back home to appreciate movies with loud, monster-looking stars.

One thing our world has is lots and lots of Asians. If producers want Will Smith's next movie to sell well in Asia, then they'll need to glue some fur on his ass and have him bite the rest of the cast.

Watching Blacks pretend to be funny, romantic, intelligent and heroic is just too big of a stretch for people who haven't been bombarded daily by the determined disciples of Edward Bernays as we have been here in the land of the free.

Steve said...

"Look at that Successful Black man, Judge Perry who is presiding over the Casey Anthony case".

Are you out of your f'ing mind?? Perry looks like a pathetic version of Chief Moose, he bumbles his words, speaks in some bastardized version of English and is only giving Casey a great opportunity for an appeal. That negro retard is a disgrace to the bar and the bench!!

White Devil said...

"Where is your article on Judge Perry"

Have you heard the bumbling idiot speak? The tinge of Ebonics laces every syllable, just hidden well enough to suit the formality of his role, a role ultimately obtained through Affirmative Action.

The same can be said of Herman Cain. Put enough of these fools in power and Detroit will happen.

Anonymous said...

anon 12:54

I'm a registered Republican minority. Racial apologists and liberals say assimilation, but I say adaptation. The Asian country from which my parents hail is corrupt as hell, which is why they came to this great nation. In world war 2, Japan decimated my parents country and tortured my grand parents and relatives. It was the Americans who came to drive the Jap bastards out. I bought into the liberal crap when I was a kid, but learned that it's bullshit. I'm probably a lot more conservative than most Republicans, because I was taught by my parents, who experienced the shittieness of a corrupt country that took their land, that this is the greatest country on earth. You might think that all immigrants come here and dilute the greatness of this nation with their 3rd world ways. I'm hear to say that some of us know how crappy the 3rd world is, and want to do everything in our power to make this a better nation. That is why I have complete inability to understand the black mentality. I grew up poor, as did all of my friends, but none of us took a single food stamp, welfare check, or handout. We didn't take what wasn't ours because our country was colonized by the white man 200 years ago. We didn't hurt people, vandalize, or litter because we were struggling to stay above the poverty line. We worked our asses off. My mentality is that I want to learn and emulate the ways of those who were successful.

I hope you guys see that the more enlightened immigrants probably believe in "The American Dream" more vehemently than many of the natives. I can't speak for everyone obviously, but the fact that this nation attracts people like my parents and I makes this the greatest fucking country in the world.

Anonymous said...

Nice post but The reason CA did not come out this weekend is because Transformers 3's release date (also this weekend) was determined way back when the second one came out (all 3 have been released the weekend of the 4th.) Paramount, who is distributing both films, did not want them competing with each other, as a quick google search would tell you.

Anonymous said...

Desiree cites:

Where is your article on Judge Perry, a successful Judge, presiding over one of the most high-profile cases in US history.

Judge Perry is "only successful" because he benefited from AFFIRMATIVE ACTION, just as the majority of blacks in such positions did. Honestly I wouldn't want to be chosen for a position solely base on my skin colour, I would somehow doubt the credibility of such approach since as a candidate I would expect to accede to such position by merit. But then I'm white and I have pride and insight, elements lacking in all black AA recipients.

Anonymous said...

to the anon at 4:35 pm. Awesome first paragraph. If America was 12.6% Asian instead of black, we'd probably have cured AIDS and have flying cars. I'm not being sarcastic. My college was 20% Asian, and many of my Asian American friends have stories like your paragraph. A post-WW2 immigration, blood sweat and tears, face hardship but bust ass for the american dream. Boat People to Ivy league in 3 generations. Black americans do not have the strong cultural themes mentioned by your post to overcome their genetic limitations. It is a cultural as well as a genetic thing that creates the destruction and chaos in the black community. It's welfare to welfare each generation.

Anonymous said...

@ anon 4:30, yeah its the old anon from 12:54, I understand your mentality and it is clearly an intelligent one, but I ask to you, what would you think if all around you in lets say your home of origin (my Grandfather was a marine stationed in post-war china< and I will assume you are chinese due to your anti-japan mentality) let say that in your country all around you your neighborhoods and schools are slowly becoming changed, white people are moving in and dressing ethnically chinese, speaking chinese and writing chinese books and living in your ancestors homes, going to your schools and sleeping with your women. now imagine that these men declare themselves chinese and begin to help shape the culture around their ancestry. the "hollowed out" part refers to the fact that "White culture" does not exist, chinese culture exists but there is no contemporary example of WHITE CULTURE, we don't even own our own identity. I apologize if this frustrates or angers you because you are not a bad person but I hope you understand the existential problem 3rd world adaption has caused white culture. SBPDL's captian america can only represent a white culture from the 40s, because there is no white culture anymore

Anonymous said...

"Look at that Successful Black man, Judge Perry"

LOLOL He speaks like a babbling idiot. I've never heard a white judge who sounds like an incoherent third-grader, but that's what you get with affirmative action.

Anonymous said...

"If producers want Will Smith's next movie to sell well in Asia, then they'll need to glue some fur on his ass and have him bite the rest of the cast."

LMAO...That's hilarious.

Anonymous said...

"I hope you guys see that the more enlightened immigrants probably believe in "The American Dream" more vehemently than many of the natives."

That is very true. I've found that asians in particular tend to be nice, hard working, smart, civilized people who contribute to and appreciate what this country has to offer. In short, they're much better for this country than America-hating white liberals.

The people I'm completely disgusted with are blacks (for the many reasons detailed on this site) and non-American hispanics who are racist against whites, hate America, and want to turn the US into a latino shit hole just like Mexico (and they're succeeding, unfortunately).

Whiskey said...

Actually, I can think of at least ONE Smith movie that made more money abroad than at home: Karate Kid, with his son Jaden Smith. Box Office Mojo shows that domestically the movie made $176 million and foreign box office (Gross) was $182 million. Due to the vagaries of the international market the net domestically may have been far larger (most movies are sold in bundles abroad for a set fee). But Jaden Smith was fairly impressive for a low-budget movie (co-star Jackie Chan did not hurt).

Box Office Mojo also reports that Hanccok did $227 million (with Charlize Theron as love interest) and $396 FOREIGN. Independence Day has $306 million domestically vs. $511 foreign. Men in Black did $190 million domestically, and $251 million abroad. Seven Pounds did in 2008, $69 million, domestically vs. $98 million abroad.

Conclusion: Will Smith is the world's favorite movie star. Even his KID, a no-talent nothing, draws huge overseas. All actual evidence, you know reported box office, suggests that Will Smith being an Black man does not hurt, and probably HELPS his international box office draw. He's on a movie screen, not a scary guy threatening people in real life. He's tall, he's Black (women in general according to Sailer's work prefer darker skinned and taller guys than say, Conan O'Brien). Being Black probably helps Smith, who seems more masculine and assertive than White guys (a natural Black advantage btw) without being too scary (his slender physique probably helps there).

This pattern seems to hold though only for Will Smith and one other Black actor. Jamie Foxx generally does slightly less than domestically, for global box office. His numbers for the Soloist which is a total star turn for him, were $31 million domestically and only $6 million foreign. The same or worse hold true for Martin Lawrence and Eddie Murphy, though that is probably at least their huge number of comedies (that do poorly overseas).

Denzel Washington is basically about a half-Will-Smith. Deja Vu did $64 million domestically, but $116 million overseas. Washington does basically a bit over foreign vs. domestically, or a bit under, or near damn break even. World wide audiences have no problem with him.

Conclusion? It is all over for White leading men. They just aren't very popular **WORLDWIDE** compared to the best of the Black actors, talent aside. World-wide audiences prefer Denzel and Smith particularly, to White guys. Their Black ethnicity pencils in automatically higher levels of toughness, masculine aggression, and sexiness than White actors of the same age and ability. HOWEVER, and this is a big however (that Hollywood has ignored) ... it takes a certain type of Black actor. One that promotes "higher class" than say, Jamie Foxx or Martin Lawrence. [Regardless of reality, we are talking image here.]

An action hero must present toughness, authority, sexiness, and more to a world-wide audience. Increasingly, European, Asian, and other audiences are rejecting White leading men in favor of Smith and to a lesser extent, Denzel Washington. The global audience cannot even consider a White guy having those attributes in a regular, non-Comic book action movie.

Anonymous said...

The people I'm completely disgusted with are blacks (for the many reasons detailed on this site) and non-American hispanics

"non-American hispanics"? So LaRaza, the Hispanic Caucus, MEChA and the hundreds of other American-hispanic groups, their members and supporters are just peachy?

Sheila said...

Anon at 5:36, you make some excellent points and a solid argument against either the "assimilation" or "adaptation" of unlimited numbers of immigrants - black, Asian, high-IQ, regardless. I have lived in Asia - no, they don't like blacks, but neither do they respect Whites! They refer to you as a "gweilo" or foreign devil or barbarian and are happy to take your money, your technology, or the education you provide, but they despise you and your culture. I have had some Asian friends, but even those who've spent years here hold themselves apart, and are a study in conflicting impulses. The cultural and familial traditions run deep, and while they may be a hybrid, or a new amalgamation, they are not purely American (they cannot be, just as I could never be Asian, no matter how many years I lived there). Culture proceeds from race, and race is a biological reality. This does NOT mean I hate all people of other races, or see no role or place for any of them anywhere ever in America. My point is that unless America is large majority White (minimum 75-80%), other cultures will not add "vibrancy or "contrast" or "enrichment." They will be divisive and set up parallel societies and remain aliens amongst us. The current paradigm cannot stand; the question is precisely when and how it the hollow shell that remains of America will finally shatter.

Spencer said...

I like what Anons. 4:35 & 5:36.My grandparents' immigrated here from communist rule in the '60s,back when there was still a quota system.America was about 90% white when they came,it's 72% now.

Sheila,the media propaganda is really bad and many people are brainwashed by the MSM,including those in other countries.I hate when I see Asians being racist to whites.I'm not a Dem. or Rep.I'm an independent.Blacks and white liberals are the real racists for not wanting all Americans to be independent and free from oppression,like the country was founded upon 235 years ago today.

I believe Hispanics can assimilate.They are like the Italians.It may take generations.The only things keeping Hispanics back are the illegals that they associate with.Secure the border,kick out the illegals,and they will be forced to adapt.

Brother Anonymous said...


"Secure the border,kick out the illegals,and they will be forced to adapt."

If legal hispanics and hispanic advocacy groups advocated this, you'd have a point. But they don't. And they never will. They aren't interested in setting the scene for assimilation as you describe it, and will do anything to stop it from happening.

Anonymous said...

The only things keeping Hispanics back are the illegals that they associate with

Some of you are a real multicultural trip. If the legal status is really the underlying issue then all we need to do is make them all legal. Just what is the Hispanic Caucus and what do they do? How about LaRaza? Why do you think they 'associate' with them?

Sheila said...

Spencer, I must respectfully disagree. First of all, I believe America is currently 63% White (not of Hispanic origin) - (; as recently as the early 1960s it was close to 90%. Even if all immigration (legal or illegal) were stopped today, Whites will shortly be a minority in this country due to dropping White birthrates and the increasing birthrates of immigrants. Mexicans in America have more children than those in Mexico, courtesy of subsidization by the U.S. taxpayer. Regarding Hispanics and assimilation, studies have shown (; that with each successive generation in America, Hispanics' academic achievement and English proficiency drops. There is little assimilation possible for Mestizos. While some in the WN movement regard Southern Italians as similar to Mexicans, I believe genetic studies have demonstrated the Italians, including Sicilians, are part of the European gene pool and quite distinct from Mexican and Latin American Indians. We don't have generations. We don't have even a decade. Personally, I believe the time long past when we could alter the direction of this headlong dash off the cliff.

Anonymous said...

First time poster here.

I think I'm in concurrence with Spencer on this one.

I served with many of them in the Corps. While, there is a considerable "anti-white" strain in some of them.

Many of those that I served with decent and competent people, some had a bit of resentment, but I wouldn't say hate. The ones that I served with pretty much emulated Whites, dated whites, and wanted to become white. Male and female.

Personally, I think it's dubious to compare their whining about "Anglos" to when Blacks complain about monolithic group known as the "whitey" or "The Man."

I can't really say they HATE whites.

They're a heck of a lot preferable to the blacks, IMO.

OTH, Blacks HATE white people. They really do HATE us.

They hate the entire concept of America.

They feel cheated and disenfranchised, despite all the things us whites have done for the sake of egalitarianism.

Whites bend over backwards appease these Negroes, and they just spit on our faces.

They want some merit award for things every other Corpsman does regularly. The level of entitlement they have is immeasurable.

Their level of entitlement really bugs the hell out of me. It really does.

Anonymous said...

Funny how I never really watched a movie in which Will Smith was a main character. I'm just not interested period, he does nothing for me as the majority of black actors. Media propaganda in the last 20 yrs or so hasn't influenced the types of movies I wish to view.

I make it a point of choosing mostly white movies above all, the same goes for my musical choices. I guess I don't have any merit, I've always been one to refuse media indoctrination.
Best way to get rid of Blackfaces in cinema is to boycott these movies.

Spencer said...

Sheila,the second link doesn't work.There were studies that by the 3rd gen.,most Mexican-Americans don't speak Spanish at all.And not all Hispanic immigrants are Mestizos or Native Indian(maybe 2/3 have significant Indian blood).

The time of Non-Hispanic whites are rapidly decreasing because you're not having children,which is exactly true.Why Whites have only one or two children and are satisfied is beyond me.

So,guys,America should do what Eisenhower did?We certainly don't give them amnesty of any kind.How will Hispanic advocacy groups respond if there are mass deportations of illegals?

Jesus Christ Supercop said...

Whiskey, isn't the actual problem that Hollywood isn't promoting white leading men anymore? I think that's what you've been saying for a long time.

Sheila: "I have lived in Asia - no, they don't like blacks, but neither do they respect Whites! They refer to you as a "gweilo" or foreign devil or barbarian and are happy to take your money, your technology, or the education you provide, but they despise you and your culture."

Asia isn't a monolithic culture any more than Europe is. It sounds like you're talking about just China.

Sheila said...

No, not just China. I'm well aware of the pecking order in Asia (with Vietnamese and Cambodians at the bottom, Japanese at the top) and the variety of cultural similarities and differences and cross-fertilization. While people in, say, Thailand are more personally friendly than perhaps people in Singapore, I repeat: They don't like blacks, they don't respect Whites, they think their culture far superior and are happy to take advantage (financially, educationally, culturally) of Whites whenever the opportunity arises.

Anonymous said...

Denzel Washington is up there with Will Ferrell, Vince Vaughn, Seth Rogan, Drew Barrymore, Tom Cruise and Eddie Murphy as one of Forbes most overpaid actors.

R said...

Whiskey looks like you're full of shit as usual...

Only took a few seconds to google too.

White leading man still dominate and yes that includes action films. Samuel L Jackson & Morgan Freeman are only up there because they've been in a shitload of movies playing only minor roles i.e. not leading men, same with Eddie Murphy whose greatest grossing films has been with the kids Shrek movies doing the voice over for the donkey sidekick. Will Smith is the only one who deserves to make the list and he's #9.

Whiskey you seem to have devolved into nothing more than a demoralizing agent, a defeated and pathetic excuse for a "Scotch-Irish" man spewing your poison all across the conservative/hbd/pro-white blogosphere. A worthless traitor as far as I'm concerned. What would your fellow Scotch-Irishmen Andrew Jackson, Ulysses S. Grant, and George S. Patton think of you're craven cowardice and defeatism?

That is if you truly are "Scotch-Irish"

Discard said...

Anonymous First Time Poster at 4:16 PM: The Darks in the military are the pick of the litter. Illegals can't enlist, and the majority of Blacks and legal Hispanics don't even graduate from high school. (The figures given in the media are faked, I'll explain just how if you ask.) Any impressions on racial matters formed from military service will be biased in the Darks favor. Which also means that if you got a bad impression of them in the service, they're even worse than you thought.

Brother Anonymous said...


"So,guys,America should do what Eisenhower did?We certainly don't give them amnesty of any kind.How will Hispanic advocacy groups respond if there are mass deportations of illegals?"

They will reveal that they were already in a state of war against us.

Anonymous said...

Whiskey has read Roissy's blog and has convinced himself that's he's beta.

And he's right.

Anonymous said...

Justin Bieber just has had the lowest selling magazine since Will Smith.

Some people are just poison to magazine sales.