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| 3/5's or 3/4's: How can you not have a government issued ID? |
Politico is upset that numerous states are enacting Voter ID Laws that mandate voters show proper, state-issued identification before they are allowed to cast a ballot:
A new South Carolina voter identification law is impacting predominantly black precincts more than others in the state, according to a study by The Associated Press.
The measure requires that every person have a photo ID of some kind when they vote, whether it is a driver’s license, military ID or passport, the AP wrote. The law has been under review by the Department of Justice to see whether it violates the Voting Rights Act.
Wait, some states don't require proper identification before a person is allowed to cast a vote? And calling it "electoral genocide" for having to show proper identification is going a little far, isn't it? Drivers licenses aren't that expensive and just having the state issue an ID can't be that hard on the pocketbook.The AP found that many voters in predominantly black counties in South Carolina do not have proper identification — and the percentage of minority voters without the required identification is higher in those areas than other precincts statewide.For example, in Richland County, there are 11,087 nonwhite voters without ID, and in Orangeburg County, there are 4,544. The AP study said that means half of those impacted in Richland are nonwhite voters. In Orangeburg, that equals 73 percent of nonwhite voters hit by the law.
The AP’s analysis of the state’s 2,135 precincts reveals there are 10 precincts where almost all of the people impacted by the new law are minority voters.
“This is electoral genocide,” the state’s Democratic Party Chairman Dick Harpootlian told the AP. “This is disenfranchising huge groups of people who don’t have the money to go get an ID card.”
Similar laws exist in Indiana and Georgia, while four other states also passed new measures this year requiring photo identification in order to cast a ballot. In South Carolina, if someone goes to the polls without proper ID, that person is still able to vote absentee or use a provisional ballot, the AP noted.
Now, if individual states brought back the poll tax, single Black females would be in a lot of trouble. After all, they only have a net worth of $5. Then again, the net worth of Black families has fallen to $5,677, so a poll tax would radically impact the Black vote. It would be extremely difficult to elect politicians who favor a system of government that radically redistributes money through TANF/Welfare increases, EBT/Food Stamps, an increase in Section 8 Housing, etc, if a poll tax was brought back.
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| Bring back the Literacy Test: Then you'll see "electoral genocide" |
Knowing that illiteracy rates are highest in Black Undertow areas, how on earth would these Black people (25 percent don't have proper identification) be able to pass both a poll tax and a literacy test? Who in the world would be eligible to vote in elections in city's like Detroit, Baltimore, Atlanta, Memphis, Birmingham, Newark, Jackson (MS), and New Haven? The Black illiteracy rates in these cities is staggering high. Worse, with more than 50 percent of the US jail population being Black (and with 1/3 of Black males being in either jail, just out of jail, or on probation), how many Black felons can't vote?
The Black dropout rate from high school (not to mention college) is incredibly high, and yet, if they acquire a proper ID then they can vote. No poll tax; no literacy test. Just a valid ID.
I'd call that "national genocide"; allowing people to vote who have virtually no stake in the election save the electing of politicians who will pander completely to their community.
Thegrio.com reports more states are getting into the game of Voter ID laws:
Nearly 25 percent of African-Americans currently do not have a valid photo ID necessary to vote, according to a recent study by the Brennan Center for Justice, the non-partisan public policy and law institute at New York University's School of Law.What would one call Black people in South Carolina -- all Black people -- voting as a monolith for US Senate Candidate Alvin Greene back in 2010? If that isn't "electoral genocide" (or better yet, "national genocide"), we don't know what is.
The study revealed that the number of states with laws requiring voters to show government-issued photo identification, such as a driver's license or passport, has quadrupled in 2011, compared to only two states imposing such laws prior to this year's legislative season. More than 21 million U.S. citizens do not possess government-issued ID.
The Center reported that seven states had signed photo ID bills into law at the time of the study: Alabama, Kansas, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas and Wisconsin.
"This is electoral genocide," South Carolina Democratic Party Chairman Dick Harpootlian said in a recent Associated Press article.
Black people and Organized Blackness, through the usual channels in the Main Stream Media and with Disingenuous White Liberal's leading the charge, have stated that Voter ID laws would disenfranchise the Black vote. Since the United States (and the various states) got rid of the poll tax, literacy tax, and actually checked ID's of those voting, the historic majority has been disenfranchised and forcibly required to continue paying for the honor of being legally discriminated against.
Eric "My People" Holder and his Justice Department is investigating whether or not the requirement of proper identification at the polls is a violation of the Voting Rights Act (or some other nonsense). Of course, the Department of (In) Justice will side with those who are perpetually disenfranchised.
Would you rather be 3/5's a person or 3/4's a person? Quick math question: which percentage is closer to a whole person? If you haven't figured it out yet, you don't deserve to vote. But in Black-Run America (BRA), even if you don't have proper identification, can't add 2+2, or understanding basic values of the republican form of government, you can vote.
Are white people even considered 1/2 a person in BRA?
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"Nearly 25 percent of African-Americans currently do not have a valid photo ID necessary to vote"
BS. Then how do they cash gubermint checks, buy likka or menthol cigarettes?
Why didn't the Rachel Maddow show invite the other side of the question? Instead she has on a left wing jew to backup her whining, crying, and poor little thing bullshit. She sounded like a female Jeraldo Rivera.
In my state if you are so stupid that you do not have some kind of I.D. by the time you are old enough to vote then the state will actually send someone to you to make you an I.D. So that takes care of the disabled, the retards, I has to werk, not enough time etc. BS.
"This is electoral genocide."
One more outrageous exaggeration typical of leftist rethoric.
When Blacks actually go out on "kill whitey night", it's not genocide, of course. But keeping elections honest is "genocide".
Words have been turned upside down.
And in most cases the states that are enacting this voter identification statute are making non-driving licenses/state-identifications affordable if not actually free. Georgia took away every excuse imaginable that a person could use to claim that they couldn't afford to get a state identity card and yet some people still wanted to call it "racist", and by "some people" I mean Democrats. I could guarantee you that the people claiming they could not afford to get a state id also have cell phones, X-Box, television and the Dish Network. You literally have to be John Connor to be so far off the grid that you have no drivers license, no state id, and no passport. What kind of upstanding, decent, law-abiding citizen pays bills and has a job and moves around in a free society without the benefit of even one piece of legal, visual identification?
Why don't Blacks just push for a Universal Government Benefits (UGB) card that will be good for life and include a thumbprint, picture and include an embedded RFID chip? That way, every government transaction they do will be dutifully registered right up until the collapse of the US government! They could construct the card out of titanium allowing for an insert out of ceramic. Hell, Blacks expect everything FREE from whitey, so you might as well accomodate their expectations!
Democrats rely on massive black voter fraud to win elections, period. Any measure to bring some sort of validity to who's actually voting will be called "racist" by the leftist democrat press. Let them whine, scream and cry. Let them make threats. I don't give a shit. We've placated stupid blacks and libs long enough.
Here in Mississippi, it is more or less going to become law after it appeared on a Nov. 8th ballot initiative.
Race baiters are crying that the 'disenfranchised' can't get proper state issued i.d. w/o a cost, which is baloney considering the Great State of Mississippi is going to give them away for FREE! There is no reason this should not be a law and I voted in favor of it.
Show proper i.d. to vote or get shown the door. There is nothing wrong with this!
I still say 3/5 of a person is far too generous.
The 3/5ths compromise weakened the power of the slave holders, and ultimately contributed to the end of slavery. Shame on the media for promoting black victimhood at any cost, including reason.
The Smiths' "Half a Person" would fit this post well.
"One more outrageous exaggeration typical of leftist rethoric."
Projection.
In Canada you have to show I.D...but not your face. The government has twice tried to pass a law forcing people to reveal their faces (Read: Muslim women in burkas or niqabs).
Twice they have failed. Reason: racist - no joke.
As to the point about the people who 'can't afford' I.D. but they likely have cell phones...it's a bit like the OWS group...talking away on their iPhones, Blackberries, using their laptops...all while protesting the 'rich'...
If blacks apply for and receive ID, then they could be found for warrants, traffic tickets, welfare fraud, stolen identity, wage garnishment, and back child support, all of the usual crimes hustles blacks commit as part of black culture. My librarian told me that blacks don't apply for library cards either, since you must show proof of residency and a birth certificate (which most of them don't have due to "racism".)
Voter fraud is only one small part of the black criminal culture.
Obtaining proper ID is especially troublesome for feral black men, since they don't live anywhere on a permanent basis, they just "stay" somewhere like grandma's house, or roam around homeless.
Blacks also are very superstitious and believe that racist YT will use every opportunity to put them into the national black database, or resume lynching and slavery.
The reason "blacks" avoid obtaining a "gubermint" ID...
Is that they are generally have outstanding warrents and are WANTED by the authorities...
Sucks to be a low life criminal black...
From historical data, one might want to look up both the White and Black illiteracy rates from 1920. The tests were used specifically for Blacks and only Blacks could be given in any language.
"I've read story after story about school administrators, teachers, and students cheating or allowing white students to cheat on exams so their schools will out perform other schools.
I've seen the rampant cheating by whites with my own eyes because white instructors turn a blind eye, and in the same class seen black students flunk out -- and become demoralized because they didn't know the whites were cheating to get a passing grade.
I've taken employment tests that I KNOW I passed only to be told I didn't.
I've seen evidence of police and fire exams that were rigged, or where the white test takers were given (or purchased) the exam answers --only to read that blacks couldn't pass the tests and had to use affirmative action
to get the job"---
My point is - cheating is a natural way of life for white people"-----A black female who has posted comments on my blog
Here's one of many stories. You consistently mistreat and disadvantage us even though you say we are defective in intelligence. No sympathy for the infirm. Isn't that a characteristic of savages? Yet, your kind wants to sue Sea World for the slavery of whales. So. maybe, not just savage but inherently mad (like crazy) Shaking my head.
I'm not saying black people don't lie, steal, and cheat, but the amateur stuff we do is a drop in the proverbial bucket compared to what white people do as a group
Here's one of many stories on the school cheating of white people:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/30/nyregion/after-arrest-a-wider-inquiry-on-sat-cheating.html?scp=1&sq=Eshaghoff&st=cse
Oh, and targeted violence on the basis of color---- Black people do more of that to white people than vice versa???....I didn't know you were an aspiring comedian, Paul.
Midwestern.
Thank you. I have been thinking like a white person. You got it. That's why blacks will not get an I.D. They are wanted, or felons, or child support or escaped prisoners or are not eligible to vote. They are drawing govermint funds under some kind of false pretense and an official I.D. might catch up to them. No wonder the NAACP, the SPLC, and other such low lifes, don't want an ID for voting.
No matter what, just like last time the ballot boxes are going to be stuffed, even dead people will be voting in the next election. Barry Soetero will win the next election no matter what. Obuma has no intention of ever vacating the office of the US president. Bet on it.
If the voter ID laws passed today that means everyone would have more than a year to get one for the 2012 elections. A year is not enough time for these fools? The ID will be free for lots of them too. Can't they do anything on their own? Even something as simple as this is too much. Simple-minded, petty and childish.
In my state of California there are probably 2-3 million illegal aliens floating around all of which are using some type of fraudulent or non-secure ID. Much of the core opposition to secure ID are the enablers that are quite well aware of the fact that if we went to a system of secure biometric machine readable ID it would become well neigh impossible for those same illegals to do more than just exist.
Florida has been requiring a photo ID for as long as I can remember
The lack of ID won't stop them. Convicted groid felons can easily buy a Glock, and they can usually vote, too. Just wait until they bring back literacy tests such as reciting the alphabet backwards.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8AHZjM1pyo&feature=related
please take a moment and watch this vid regarding flash mobs, what we used to call RIOTS back in the day.
cree7, that's the funniest post I've read in a while. You've inverted reality, which is what You People do
mr_evergreen and cree7 sound very similar. It appears they are the same person.
@Cree7...... LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Funny! I am curently a student and the things that I see the darkies getting away with is INSANE!!!! Instructors HAVE to pass the blacks with a minimum of %72 or face a firing squad from the Board of Regents. Out of 37 students in my Anatomy/Physiology class, 12 are black. There are 2 bucks that are there strictly for the white wimmins, and 10 breed sows. Of the breed sows, only 1 of them is even semi literate(actually, very intelligent). One of my most memorable moments was just before a lab test were we had to identify models of human organs. A 300-325 lb breed sow picked up a liver and "axed" me "if dis beez duh sarabellims". This was after 8 weeks in the class. I had 2 EXTREMELY challenged breed sows in a pathogenic microbiology class that delibertly ruined cultures because they were pissed off that the other 3 people(whites) had the nerve to ask them to help with experiments and data gathering. It finally got to the point that I would just let them copy the results out of my lab manual, rather then have them compromise my grade. I have had other classes were teachers were afraid to say anything to bucks/sows using their sail fawns to cheat on exams/tests for fear of being called a racist. I never go anywhere near the school library, as it is truely a frigg'n zoo. The elderly librarians(white)are terrified of the darkies and pretty much ignore all the loud, inapropriate conversations. The constant vulgar language, using computers for any and every other thing EXCEPT course studies, food, soda pop, chewed and spit out gum, Etc...... Despite signs everywhere asked stating that "No food or drink allowed in the Library". The best part is that WE, PAY for it!!!! YES!!! Thats right.Most, if not all of the darkies are there on a Pell grantor some other state/federal gibs muh dat program. Hell, they even get allowances for food and daycare through these social programs. I have to take out student loans, work a job, pay my taxes so I can pay for these simian halfwits! In closing, I would like to say; Please give to the United Negro College Fund, A mind is a terible thing to want.
P.s. Obama 2012, Hope & Change you can step in.
"Oh, and targeted violence on the basis of color---- Black people do more of that to white people than vice versa???"
Yes, they do. By an order of magnitude. Read my blog.
How terrible! If you have to have ID to vote, it will make it harder for democrats to cheat. We can't have that. Illegal aliens won't be able to vote. Dead people won't be able to vote. Acorn workers could only only vote a few times instead of hundreds. It's not fair!
The ID is free in some states for this reason if it will be used for voter purposes. They are just too stubborn to walk to the DMV and get the state ID for free. Even a driver's license only costs 20 or 30 dollars. They whine to justify illegal voting, duplicate voting and felon invaders who are not citizens voting in American elections.
I think that Midwestern has it right. Many Blacks don't want to be found. But there's another trait of poor dumb people: They lose stuff. Many of them can't go a year without losing their wallet or purse, their keys, or some vital document. Court dates are a nightmare for them. They are simply children, and have no business voting.
$5.2 million.
That’s how much money a California court awarded a black man who had been called the ‘n’ word by a co-worker.
My guess? The jury was black.
Blacks shaking down Whites is nothing new.
Take a casual stroll through a black neighborhood. You may encounter a black guy who points a gun at your head and demands five dollars. It's no different. Just multiply times one million.
Black-on-White shake downs happen all the time.
Welfare payments target White taxpayers and most frequently benefit blacks. It's a shake down. ‘Affirmative Action’ programs transfer funds from White taxpayers into the pockets of blacks; another shake down.
The black victim says he was exposed to the racial slur while employed by the mega retailer, Sears.
Here’s the link:
http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_19197757
As White Americans lose ground to non-whites, we can expect an increase in tort claims.
Maybe the reason is not so much the cost of an I.D. ... But having to produce a birth certificate, or certificate of live birth to obtain and I.D.
I could see this being a problem for negros.
As touched on by several other posters, there's a large percentage of black people that simply don't want to be found for legal reasons, and I have many employees who refuse to open a checking account and will instead go to a nearby liquor store to get their check cashed, even though the liquor store may be getting anywhere from 5-10% of the check.
I think the legal reason is probably the single biggest reason why some black people won't get a valid i.d., but some paranoia and superstition also plays a part. Some are afraid that the government is going to just one day take all their possessions (probably will happen, but not for the reasons they suspect). I even had one employee hold his check up to a light bulb and peek into the envelope before actually opening it. He did this every Friday for several years; I asked him why he did it. He had no particularly good reason, other than that he was from New Orleans and that it was customary for his people to peek underneath the envelop flap before opening the envelope (as if the check was going to jump out of the envelope and run away).
I'm Irish, and I don't even see how the voter ID question is even an issue.
One in every three voters here gets asked for photo ID. It's policy and we prepare for it. Or are people just meant to take your word for it that you're eligible to vote? FFS.
Also, I'm always hearing leftists whining that the US should do X, Y and/or Z because "Yoorup does it/We're the only first world nation not to" - which, BTW, are codewords for white.
But all the European and first world nations (mostly, but not always, the same countries) demand voter ID. It never occurs to us not to do so.
I cannot believe that some American people are so unbelievably moronic that this is even a question.
"From historical data, one might want to look up both the White and Black illiteracy rates from 1920."
I couldn't give a shit.
"Oh, and targeted violence on the basis of color---- Black people do more of that to white people than vice versa???."
Yes, by an enormous margin.
Any other dumb fucking questions?
"mr_evergreen and cree7 sound very similar. It appears they are the same person."
I disagree. They do not sound alike.
Evergreen is male, young and naive, but not blind to atrocious black behavior.
Cree is female, older, probably obese, fully subscribed to the blame-whitey mindset, and in complete denial about black-on-white violence.
cree7, I took a look at your blog. Wow, funny stuff! What's with your obsession with white men raping black women? You know that doesn't happen in real life, right?
Unamused, your blog doesn't show up when I click on your name...it just shows this one as a blog you follow. Just FYI as I visit your site every day.
I tend to view black reports of racism with a healthy scepticsim. I've seen too many cases of blacks claiming racism where audio of photographic evidence exists showing no such thing. Plus, blacks tend to hear the "n-word" on the air. Nobody said it, but somehow they hear it.
Also, I would like to point out that if the citizenry of this country were sufficiently educated, a charge of "genocide" on such a topic would completely dicredit the argument on its face.
"I couldn't give a shit."
I do care because I do vote and would like to continue voting.
"cree7, I took a look at your blog. Wow, funny stuff! What's with your obsession with white men raping black women?"
She's fantasizing.
"I do care because I do vote and would like to continue voting."
In case you never took Civics or American History in high school, the 15th Amendment to the Constitution guarantees your right to vote, you fucking idiot.
Mr Evergreen, your whining has become tiresome. It will not be tolerated here. You are not a fucking victim, there is no white boogeyman.
You have been fed a monstrous lie. This blog exposes that lie. If you are not interested in being enlightened, then please leave, this blog is not for you.
"In case you never took Civics or American History in high school, the 15th Amendment to the Constitution guarantees your right to vote, you fucking idiot."
Actually, I did take American Government in high school and the 15th amendment guarantees my right to vote. That being established, one of the last things I was talking about was the historical context of things. I asked about literacy rates because historically, it was only Blacks who were forced to take the literacy tests before they were made illegal. And those literacy tests could even be given in a different language or set up in some odd way. Nowadays that stuff is illegal, but sometimes I wonder what would happen if literacy tests were brought back.
"Nowadays that stuff is illegal, but sometimes I wonder what would happen if literacy tests were brought back."
It doesn't fucking matter, because your right to vote is constitutionally guaranteed.
Mr Evergreen, while you are busy fantasizing about white people revoking your constitutional right to vote...
1. Black unemployment is at historical levels.
2. Over 70% of black children are born out-of-wedlock.
3. More than half of black males do not finish high school.
4. 85 percent of black fourth graders can't read.
5. Nearly one in three African American males aged 20–29 are under some form of criminal justice supervision whether imprisoned, jailed, on parole or probation.
6. An epidemic of black-on-white violence is spreading like wildfire across the country.
It's good to see that you've got your priorities in order.
"1. Black unemployment is at historical levels.
2. Over 70% of black children are born out-of-wedlock.
3. More than half of black males do not finish high school.
4. 85 percent of black fourth graders can't read.
5. Nearly one in three African American males aged 20–29 are under some form of criminal justice supervision whether imprisoned, jailed, on parole or probation.
6. An epidemic of black-on-white violence is spreading like wildfire across the country"
The last time Black unemployment was extremely high was during the Great Depression, and back then, it was high for Whites too. What happened then is no different from now.
70 percent of Black children born out of wedlock started happening in the 1970's, when out-of-wedlock birthrates were rising for everyone. It's a question of what has happened in the rest of the USA, as well as with Blacks.
Half of Black males don't finish high school. This rate used to be much higher. There was a time when alot of Black men didn't even go to high school.I acknowledge that high school graduation rates for Blacks are not where they should be. That said, they have been much higher in the past.
85 percent of Black 4th graders can't read. Okay, where did you get that information, and what are the literacy rates for Blacks from grade K to 12?
At one time, Blacks did not make up the majority of the prison population(circa 1950). Now that rate has flip flopped since 1963. Alot of this happened during the drug war.
Black on white crime getting to these levels is something relatively new. Why it's happening, I do not know the exact answer. I don't want the solution involving a throwback to Jim Crow. I am functioning well under this system.
Black on white crime getting to these levels is something relatively new. Why is it happening?
Because of the natural racism of black people.
I dream of a day when we no longer suffer the Black Plague.
"The last time Black unemployment was extremely high was during the Great Depression"
And while black unemployment is at historic levels...along with black illegitimacy, black illiteracy, black crime, etc...you are concerned with a white boogeyman revoking your constitutional right to vote.
It's good to see that you've got your priorities in order.
BTW, congratulations on completely missing the fucking point.
"And while black unemployment is at historic levels...along with black illegitimacy, black illiteracy, black crime, etc...you are concerned with a white boogeyman revoking your constitutional right to vote.
It's good to see that you've got your priorities in order.
BTW, congratulations on completely missing the fucking point."
Yes, I should be concerned about whether or not my rights get revoked. I am a USA citizen,and demand to be treated as such. What is the point of being a USA citizen if your rights get revoked?
This is the way I look at Black on White crime. Go after the actually criminals, not the entire Black population.
"Yes, I should be concerned about whether or not my rights get revoked."
Your constitutional rights CAN NOT be revoked, you fucking idiot. You claim to be in college, but your ignorance suggests you are in elementary school.
BTW...if there was a legal way to prevent morons and negroes from voting...it would have already been implemented.
Mr Evergreen, please go away, this blog is not for you. Your delusional belief that whites are going to deny your constitutional rights is emblematic of your low IQ.
"This is the way I look at Black on White crime. Go after the actually criminals, not the entire Black population."
Since you're not white, your opinion of black-on-white crime is irrelevant.
"Plus, blacks tend to hear the "n-word" on the air. Nobody said it, but somehow they hear it."
I laughed so hard at this I spit my food out. So true.
You know? Black people are freakin' hilarious. How did anyone ever convince civilized people to take them seriously?
Evergreen, you seem to be an intelligent and curious young man. I would like to know what you think of Cree7's blog?
Indianapolis": $5.2 million.
That’s how much money a California court awarded a black man who had been called the ‘n’ word by a co-worker.
My guess? The jury was black.
Hell no. In politically insane California,even a totally White jury would be falling all over itself to prove their lack of bias by awarding some overly-sensitive mellanin positive idiot more than a lifetime's earnings for having had to endure hearing ― for all of a second or two ― an inappropriate (or even appropriate) label that should have no overarching significance outside of a dictionary.
What if the defendant had called some White person a "cracker"? Would we even be having this discussion right now? Would the numerical value of "$5.2 million" even be a topic of relevance?
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Anonymous (October 27, 2011 8:55 AM): Evergreen is male, young and naive, but not blind to atrocious black behavior.
Cree is female, older, probably obese, fully subscribed to the blame-whitey mindset, and in complete denial about black-on-white violence.
For whatever it's worth, I tend to agree. None of that erases Mr. Evergreen's objectionable reliance upon useless traditional Black or Liberal talking points.
However, the difference is glaring and remains an important distinction.
mr_evergreen: This is the way I look at Black on White crime. Go after the actually criminals, not the entire Black population.
So what?
As in, "Does this pass the 'so what' test?"
Mr Evergroid - those Literacy tests sounded like an excellent policy.
"Mr Evergroid - those Literacy tests sounded like an excellent policy."
Our opinions differ diametrically. This doesn't give you a license to insult me. I don't insult other people on this site.
If the literacy tests were such a good policy, then why were only Blacks subjected to them? If it is a good policy, then everyone would have to be held to the same policy. Other policies included the poll tax. Only Blacks were subjected to that.
"So what?
As in, "Does this pass the 'so what' test?" "
So what? It is wrong when White people get jumped and attacked for no reason other than their skin color. It is equally wrong to punish an entire ethnicity for the actions of fools who don't care if they embarrass their race or hurt others. It won't help race relations if everyone suffers for the guilty.
"It is equally wrong to punish an entire ethnicity for the actions of fools who don't care if they embarrass their race or hurt others."
Pay attention, Evergreen...
I'll explain again...
Very few rattlesnakes have ever harmed or killed a human being. Therefore, using your idiotic logic, it is wrong to pre-judge all rattlesnakes based on the actions of a few.
To your logic, I say...FUCK YOU.
I assume all rattlesnakes are dangerous.
Similarly, I assume all negroes are dangerous.
Therefore, it is in the best interest of my health and well-being to avoid rattlesnakes and negroes.
I don't expect you to agree, but for fuck's sake, get it through your head...your silly arguments on an internet message board are not going to change anyone's opinion of negroes.
"Very few rattlesnakes have ever harmed or killed a human being. Therefore, using your idiotic logic, it is wrong to pre-judge all rattlesnakes based on the actions of a few.
To your logic, I say...FUCK YOU.
I assume all rattlesnakes are dangerous.
Similarly, I assume all negroes are dangerous.
Therefore, it is in the best interest of my health and well-being to avoid rattlesnakes and negroes.
I don't expect you to agree, but for fuck's sake, get it through your head...your silly arguments on an internet message board are not going to change anyone's opinion of negroes."
First of all, it is not fair to compare human beings to rattlesnakes. Rattlesnakes all think the same and do the same thing. Human beings are individuals and no two human beings think alike. Not all African-Americans think alike. I am an individual with my own thoughts and ways of being, therefore, I feel that I should be approached as an individual. For that reason, I disagree with your comparison.
Second, I'm not on this site cursing you out. What gives you a right to curse me out?
"First of all, it is not fair to compare human beings to rattlesnakes."
Of course it's fair.
However, if you disagree...I don't give a fuck.
"Second, I'm not on this site cursing you out."
I don't care.
"What gives you a right to curse me out?"
The same Constitution that guarantees your right to vote.
Please go away now, this blog is not for you.
If the literacy tests were such a good policy, then why were only Blacks subjected to them? If it is a good policy, then everyone would have to be held to the same policy.
Equality before the law is the cornerstone of any just nation. And this is why it is so vital that the races separate, permanently. Allow me to illustrate this point.
Gun crime is a serious problem in the United States. Liberals love to blame this on the free availability of guns in our country. But when gun owners are broken down by race, we find that the Caucasian gun owner is among the least criminally violent worldwide. American gun crime is virtually all black and Mestizo. But because blacks are citizens who enjoy equality before the law, as all citizens must, society is unable to target the criminal subpopulation specifically. Instead, draconian gun laws which effect all citizens are set in place, and the result is a massive loss of liberty for those whose ancestors created the country from nothing.
The presence of black citizens necessarily diminishes the liberty and restricts the rights of Caucasians.
Unconstitutional weapons laws - your fault.
Because black children can't seem to keep from stabbing each other in school, a white child was suspended when he brought in a Swiss Army knife to eat his lunch with.
Zero-tolerance policies - your fault.
I'll make this plain: you are quite simply unfit to live among us as equals. You are not our equals, and your presence drags our society down to your level. This is unacceptable. By secession or forced repatriation, we must be rid of you if we are to be free.
"I'll make this plain: you are quite simply unfit to live among us as equals. You are not our equals, and your presence drags our society down to your level. This is unacceptable. By secession or forced repatriation, we must be rid of you if we are to be free."
Who are you to make judgments on me? You don't know me, you have never seen me. I have never shot anyone or stabbed anyone. It is not MY fault that gun laws are made stricter. Why not just lock up the murderers for life and let ALL law abiding citizens keep their weapons. My father bought shot guns and a pistol and has never shot anyone. The only things he has shot with any gun are rabbits, squirrels, and clay skeets. I have never shot anyone. In fact, the only person who ever shot me with anything was a White teenager who thought it would be funny to do so.
You can't do sweeping punishments because no one solution works for everyone. Banning guns would not work for me because how would I defend myself? If Black people are the ones getting shot by other Black people, then it is Black people who would need to protect themselves the most. In short, myself.
Let ALL individuals(keyword individuals)of every ethnicity and race who can obey the law have weapons. Lock up the criminals(ALL of them). I feel I have proven myself fit for civilized society as an individual, because I am a law-abiding citizen. For that reason, I am entitled to the same rights as everyone else.
mr evergreen: Given the extreme disparity in so many attributes between the White and Black races, Negroid appearance has become a marker for those attributes that we wish to avoid. Sorting out the good Blacks from the typical Blacks is time consuming and offers little prospect of a reward. It's like looking for jewels in trash cans. There are probably some pearls that got accidently tossed out sitting at the curb this very moment, somewhere's. But my time is better spent at a jewelry store.
Furthermore, should I find that good Black, there is a very good prospect that his friends and relatives won't be nearly as worthwhile.
Blacks are simply a risky, low return investment with high information costs. We're much better off without them.
Actually Evergreen the original intent of both Mr Lincoln and Mr Davis to remove your ancestors back to the Berber named land of Africa has yet to be implemented.
I respected my DSG in BCT and as black as he was there was a simple truth he understood and stated plainly, the negro should've never been allowed to live in the United States after 1870-75.
He didn't hate white people but he acknowledged his own inability to understand higher concepts, his IQ topped out at about 90 if that. Didn't slow him down any as he served in the Airborne for a good twenty years, discharged honorably and lives as far away from most other blacks as he can.
He is a damn good soldier, when the SHTF his efforts will be appreciated by the white folks around him. Other than that he'd like all fellow blacks to go away and live in their own country free to do as they like and believe.
Pvt keeping an eye on things.
mr_evergreen, for whatever reason the rattlesnake metaphor somehow managed to elude you. So, I'll put the question in another way:
If avoiding all contact with Black people significantly increases my chances of avoiding great bodily harm, robbery or any variety of physical and verbal assaults upon myself, wouldn't that be the wisest choice I could make?
As Van has repeatedly asked without the slightest adequate answer; what irreplaceable service, product or other intellectual property is available through Blacks that is otherwise unobtainable through people who are not of that race?
The clear and overwhelming answer is ZERO.
Without question, there are Blacks capable of offering up surgical, engineering or actuarial abilities that might be quite important to me. Are those same exact work products available to me without the least risk of being exposed to discriminatory bias law suits or hazarding under-performance and incompetence related malfeasance by avoiding Black purveyors of those skills?
Absolutely.
So, why should I chance experiencing any of those potential detriments when all that is necessary involves avoiding someone who is Black?
Finally, do you really think that I enjoy practicing such discrimination? Do you honestly believe that I prefer living in a world where my better judgement obliges me to prejudge people based on their skin color alone?
If you answered "yes" to either of the above questions, you are part of the problem and do not represent any path towards a solution.
mr_evergreen: Who are you to make judgments on me? You don't know me, you have never seen me. I have never shot anyone or stabbed anyone. It is not MY fault that gun laws are made stricter.
You just don't get it, do you?
Why should White America constantly endure incessant collective punishment at the hands of Black criminals but be prohibited from imposing the least sort of collective measures against Black Americans? The Black on White rape rates exemplify this better than anything.
Would it not be, at least, appropriate to employ police profiling with regard to Black youths in the 14 to 29 year-old age range? Or is that far too retaliatory a measure, despite how young Black criminals are disproportionately over-represented in America's criminal system?
I await your answer.
You can't do sweeping punishments because no one solution works for everyone.
Who ever said that the measure we seek should be one that "works for everyone"?
Again, you just don't get it.
What about measures directed at those who most commonly commit the vast majority of crimes with respect to their population demographics?
Doesn't such straight forward logic point directly towards young Blacks?
What about terrorism?
While not all Muslims are terrorists, aren't the vast majority (e.g., +99%), of terrorists Muslims?
What is it ― aside from lunatic bleeding-heart Liberalism ― that justifies any prohibition of profiling? As an example, Israel's El Al Airways employs a quite rigorous program of passenger profiling and ― despite being a major terrorist target ― experiences an incredibly low rate of terrorist hijackings or other Islamic-related violence.
If your answer involves anything remotely approaching, "the Israelis are intensely anti-Arab", then remember this.
In Israel, there exists alongside its numerous synagogues, numerous churches and mosques. On the other hand, throughout the MME (Muslim Middle East), there exist few Christian churches and, literally, no synagogues.
So, who is more for all of the profiling?
For our studio audience and all the folks at home, please explain, once again, why profiling ― or its legal cousin, collective punishment ― is so objectionable.
mr_evergreen,
I actually enjoy your comments, because even though I disagree with 99% of what you say, you are willing to politely debate. Any non-black person would agree that polite debate is impossible with black people regarding stances which are not overtly pro-BRA. DWL's usually find out later when they find some issues where they are not in 100% agreement with blacks.
Your postings encourage our regular commenters to eloquently state the facts and conclusions. Unfortunately, this doesn't seem to be rubbing off on black commenters, including yourself. We seem to have commenters with varied ethnic backgrounds here, so it's hard to understand what makes blacks view reality differently from all of the rest of us.
You seem to be a harmless fellow, but I agree with the others that it's time that you finally answer that question.
"First of all, it is not fair to compare human beings to rattlesnakes."
Likewise, it is not fair to compare ice cream cones to klansmen.
Let me help you through this. The metaphor is not comparing humans to rattlesnakes. It shows the decisions made by HUMANS with regard to available information. Consider that there are snakes that are completely harmless but bear a striking resemblance in coloring and markings to more aggressive and poisonous ones. Now lets say that you, Mr. Evergreen, are hiking through the abandoned and overgrown remnants of Detroit and come across a snake with black and yellow bands. You know that poisonous snakes with black and yellow markings are indigenous to the area and that there is another harmless species that shares the same habitat that slightly resembles the poisonous variety. You can't differentiate between the two and you don't have the time to try to determine if this is the harmless variety. Do you take your chances and try to step over the snake and make your way to your destination or do you give the snake a wide berth and take a long detour around it?
Let us now explore another example:
Let's say that there is a family that lives 2 houses down from you, Mr. Evergreen. This family, the Washingtons, consists of a mother, her 3 sons, 1 daughter, and a cousin that stays with them. Their household and the environment created within is their culture. You have had numerous run-ins with the mother, daughter, 2 of the sons, and the cousin - all very negative and stressful experiences. You have never had any contact with the 3rd son. You are busy trying to raise your family and live the American dream. You go out one evening after dinner to take your two children for a walk around the neighborhood. You push your youngest child in her stroller to the end of the driveway to the sidewalk with your son at your side. You look to the left and can see the 3rd son washing his car in front of his house. In the past when you have walked past their house you have been verbally accosted/taunted by other members of this family. Do you, Mr. Evergreen, decide to go right out of your driveway and take a route that does not bring you into potential contact with the neighbors 3rd son or do you decide to give the 3rd son the benefit of the doubt and chance going by where he is washing his car?
http://www.charlesdarwinresearch.org/2008%20Med%20Hypotheses.pdf
The link got cut off in my last post.
http://www.charlesdarwinresearch.org/
2008%20Med%20Hypotheses.pdf
Anonymous: (October 30, 2011 7:56 AM): Likewise, it is not fair to compare ice cream cones to klansmen.
ZING! [golf clap]
"I actually enjoy your comments, because even though I disagree with 99% of what you say, you are willing to politely debate. Any non-black person would agree that polite debate is impossible with black people regarding stances which are not overtly pro-BRA. DWL's usually find out later when they find some issues where they are not in 100% agreement with blacks.
Your postings encourage our regular commenters to eloquently state the facts and conclusions. Unfortunately, this doesn't seem to be rubbing off on black commenters, including yourself. We seem to have commenters with varied ethnic backgrounds here, so it's hard to understand what makes blacks view reality differently from all of the rest of us.
You seem to be a harmless fellow, but I agree with the others that it's time that you finally answer that question."
Thank you.
What makes Blacks view things differently from everyone else is history. Black people in the USA have a different history from everyone else. They have never had a say and view things from a perspective of residual anger. Furthermore, I view things a certain way because I am an individual. I feel I should be treated as such. Many Black have a different view because of history.
"You seem to be a harmless fellow, but I agree with the others that it's time that you finally answer that question."
"Thank you.
What makes Blacks view things differently from everyone else is history. Black people in the USA have a different history from everyone else. They have never had a say and view things from a perspective of residual anger. Furthermore, I view things a certain way because I am an individual. I feel I should be treated as such. Many Black have a different view because of history."
Actually, the question which I was referring to was Van's. I should have capitalized THE QUESTION. I'll borrow Zenster's rephrasing of it:
'As Van has repeatedly asked without the slightest adequate answer; what irreplaceable service, product or other intellectual property is available through Blacks that is otherwise unobtainable through people who are not of that race?'
When salespeople call our houses, we eventually want to know what we're buying. If it's nothing other than charity, that's ok as well. I get plenty of those phone calls too. But we just want to know what are the costs and benefits.
What makes Blacks view things differently from everyone else is history. Black people in the USA have a different history from everyone else. They have never had a say and view things from a perspective of residual anger.
What makes Vietnamese boat people view things differently from everyone else is history. Vietnamese boat people in the USA have a different history from everyone else. They have never had a say and view things from a perspective of residual anger.
Except they don't. Though their grievances with the Communists who oppressed them and the Americans who betrayed them are more than a century younger than your history of slavery, they have moved on and become successful.
It took them less than 40 years. American Blacks, OTOH, have been violent, stereotypically stupid, and dwelling on historical complaints (but I repeat myself) for no less than 146 years.
The difference is stupidity. Arabs are also stupid, and also nurse centuries-old grievances. There's a lesson there... except you're not bright enough to learn it.
"What makes Vietnamese boat people view things differently from everyone else is history. Vietnamese boat people in the USA have a different history from everyone else. They have never had a say and view things from a perspective of residual anger."
Well, I have read some things about Vietnamese history. Vietnam may have been dominated by the Chinese and the French, but they have their own nation now, and therefore, don't feel dominated by anyone anymore. The "boat people" who are here came here because they made a choice to better their lives. There is some residual resentment against the Japanese and the French, but neither peoples are in Vietnam now and are far away too.
"It took them less than 40 years. American Blacks, OTOH, have been violent, stereotypically stupid, and dwelling on historical complaints (but I repeat myself) for no less than 146 years."
It is important to note that Vietnam has been left alone since the 70's and American Blacks were basically de-humanized and treated like crap for 90 more years. 90 years of Jim Crow laws, discrimination, and lynchings. Blacks eventually got set off and rioted in the 60's. Some of it an influence of the Black power movement. Blacks felt that if they couldn't get fair treatment in the USA, then they had to tear down the power structure. That is the different. Continued maltreatment of Blacks continued into the 50's and 60's and eventually led to racial explosions. You cannot have a large group of people in a nation who feel that they have no stake in that nation. It is those persons who feel they have no stake in a society that are the most willing to tear it down.
'As Van has repeatedly asked without the slightest adequate answer; what irreplaceable service, product or other intellectual property is available through Blacks that is otherwise unobtainable through people who are not of that race?'
Still waiting.......
Continued maltreatment of Blacks continued into the 50's and 60's and eventually led to racial explosions.
Maltreatment? Into the 50's and 60's? Southern Blacks moved north in huge numbers during WWII, into areas where Jim Crow had never been the law. Brown vs. Board of Education was decided in 1954. This led to a number of civil-rights laws into the 1960's. Blacks had never had it so good.
Blacks used their new-found freedoms to go on sprees of riots, rape, robbery and murder. The reaction by the White administration in Detroit was to clamp down on the criminal class. One measure was the creation of anti-robbery units in the police departments. This program, "Stop The Robberies, Ensure Safe Streets" (STRESS) put armed plainclothes officers out as decoys. This led to a 20% drop in street crime, but several robbers were shot and killed by STRESS officers. Black agitator Coleman Young stoked outrage about the dead robbers to get himself elected mayor of the city in 1974; he would spend the next 20 years demonizing White people to cover up his own lack of positive accomplishments.
At that point, Detroit (wounded by the '67 riots) was essentially finished. The city died, not because of Blacks receiving maltreatment, but because of Blacks dishing it out. The reason Pittsburgh has revived and Detroit has not is because Pittsburgh has White productivity, foresight and political leadership.
You cannot have a large group of people in a nation who feel that they have no stake in that nation.
Blacks have the greatest stake in the nation of anyone. Without the nation's productivity, generosity and near-suicidal forebearance, most Blacks would now be huddled in shacks in the deep South, starving or dead. Blacks are doing their best to destroy that productivity, and both the generosity and the forebearance which allows it are soon to be casualties of their hate. It will not be long before we kiss Affirmative Action, TANF and Section 8 goodbye. When the EBT cards stop working Blacks will die like flies, either from starvation and disease or from the bullets fired by the people they try to rob. Deluded White Liberal charity workers will try to feed the masses for a while, but that will only last until Blacks rob or kill them.
It is those persons who feel they have no stake in a society that are the most willing to tear it down.
They receive far more from US society than they could ever give. This is why they should be offered free tickets to Africa, where the society is made by Black people.
Mr. Rational: Blacks have the greatest stake in the nation of anyone. Without the nation's productivity, generosity and near-suicidal forebearance, most Blacks would now be huddled in shacks in the deep South, starving or dead. Blacks are doing their best to destroy that productivity, and both the generosity and the forebearance which allows it are soon to be casualties of their hate. [emphasis added]
That's a really good point and this issue is only further complicated by the massive influx of Third World immigrants who share an essentially similar viewpoint.
One slight variant upon this is the Muslim concept of jizya, the tribute that must be paid by dhimmis (non-Muslims residing in Islamic countries). Muslims arriving in the First World view themselves as Islamic colonists and deem the collection of welfare or other social services as a form of jizya.
It is fairly similar to the Black sense of entitlement but, due to religious underpinnings, actually goes far deeper than most people imagine.
To re-emphasize your point, most ironic of all is the intense hatred for America shown by both Muslims and Blacks. Both global populations would find their lives far more brutish and short-lived if they were not on the receiving end of American foreign aid or given access to its agricultural and technological productivity.
As an example, the MME (Muslim Middle East) specifically, and MENA (Meddle East North Africa) in general, represent the fastest growing importers of wheat. In such conditions of water poverty the MENA region cannot possibly irrigate enough of its own crops without people dying of thirst as a consequence.
To irrigate the amount of wheat imported by the MENA region would require the entire annual flow of the River Nile. By importing wheat, Muslims ― who represent the majority in this region ― are effectively importing water.
The world's major wheat producers are America, Canada and Australia. All of these nations are targets of Islamic terrorism and infiltration.
If these three countries were to halt all exportation of wheat to the MENA region, MASS STARVATION WOULD BEGIN WITHIN JUST THREE SHORT WEEKS.
Yet ― just as with American Blacks ― Muslims simply cannot restrain themselves from committing vicious attacks and other predations upon these largely White countries.
This is why I continue to draw such numerous parallels between Muslim terrorism and the obvious anti-White genocide being committed by Blacks all around the world. There is far too much of a pattern to Black crime for it not to qualify as a form of ethnic cleansing or genocide against Whites. This, despite how American and African Blacks alike continue to rely so heavily upon White generosity.
In both cases, Blacks and Arab Muslims alike survive largely at the behest of White forebearance. When that well of sympathy finally dries up ― and you can bet the farm that such a day will soon arrive ― look for a swift reversal of fortune on the part of both of these predatory entities.
In combination, Black crime and the ghetto code's "no snitch" policy which facilitates such crime are stoking a towering rage that promises to justifiably usher in an refusal to tolerate such monumental ingratitude on the part of Blacks, Arab Muslims and all others who continue exhibiting such parasitic behavior towards White civilization.
When that day finally arrives, look for accusations of "racism" ― especially from Blacks and Muslims (who are not even a race to being with) ― to lose all pejorative connotations.
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