Friday, November 29, 2013

Gun Confiscation in New York City? A City Where, since 2008, 97 percent or more of Gun-Crime Has Been By Non-Whites?

 Gun confiscation?
Why is this alarming? These same statistics are confirmed as a yearly fact (SBPDL analyzed the Crime and Enforcement Activity Report in New York City from 2008-2012)

What, that stuff is made in New York City! [The Gun Confiscation Notice an NYC Resident Reportedly Received Will Likely Send Chills Down Your Spine, The Blaze, 11-28-13]:
New York City has reportedly started sending out confiscation notices ordering gun owners to “immediately surrender” rifles and/or shotguns capable of holding more than five rounds of ammunition. It is illegal to possess a rifle or shotgun with the capacity to hold more than five rounds in the city, according to NYC Administrative Code 10-306 (b).
An alleged notice sent to an NYC resident, dated Nov. 18, offers the gun owner the following options:
1. Immediately surrender your Rifle and/or Shotgun to your local police precinct, and notify this office of the invoice number. The firearm may be sold or permanently removed from the City of New York thereafter.
2. Permanently remove your Rifle and/or Shotgun from New York City…
[…]
3. You may call to discuss the matter if you believe your firearm is in compliance, or you may request the option to bring your firearm to a licensed gunsmith for a permanent modification and certification proving that it is permanently modified and in compliance.
 Why might the New York City Police Department be issuing notices declaring they plan to confiscate privately owned (legally-owned) weapons?

Black people. [NYPD stats: 70% of shooting suspects in first half of 2013 were black: Data collected during the first six months of the year also reveal that 74% of the city's shooting victims were black, and an additional 21.5% were Hispanic. NYPD top cop Raymond Kelly has used similar numbers to justify stop-and-frisk, while black community activists say the frustrating statistics reflect the stark reality of economics in poorer neighborhoods., New York Daily News, 11-19-2013]:
If you're black, you are almost 25 times more likely to be shot in New York City than a white person — and you are also more likely to be arrested for pulling a trigger, alarming new NYPD statistics show.
Data collected during the first six months of the year reveal 74% of the city’s 567 shooting victims were black. An additional 21.5% were Hispanic. Less than 3% of shooting victims were white, according to the report.

Blacks also accounted for the majority — about 70% — of the 222 people arrested for shooting someone during the first half of 2013, according to the NYPD’s Crime and Enforcement Activity report.
Black community activists said the frustrating statistics, which have barely fluctuated since 2009, tell the stark stories of economics in poorer neighborhoods and the NYPD’s laser-like focus on communities of color.

“It’s all a battle between the haves and the have-nots,” said Tony Herbert, president of the National Action Network’s Brooklyn East Chapter. “In the end, it’s survival of the fittest, and there are some who want to bring weapons into the mix. That’s what it comes down to.”
Alarming?

The gun-crime statistics (fatal and non-fatal shootings) in New York City would be alarming if they weren't replicated in cities like Baltimore, Philadelphia, Newark, Camden, Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Louis, and Memphis.

Oh, and New Orleans, Indianapolis, Washington D.C., Atlanta, Birmingham, Charleston (South Carolina), Tulsa, and Lincoln, Nebraska.

 Our friends at the New York City Police Department put out a yearly guide to homicide and non-fatal shootings in the city (Crime and Enforcement Activity in New York City), which should provide sufficient information into just which racial demographic needs to be disarmed in the city.

Let's start with 2008:
Shootings 
Shooting victims are most frequently Black (75.8%) or Hispanic (20.6%). 
Whitevictims account for an additional 2.2% of all Shooting victims while Asian/Pacific Islandersvictims account for less than 1.4% of all Shooting Victims. 
The race/ethnicity of known Shooting suspects is most frequently Black (78.3%).
Hispanic suspects accounted for an additional 19.9% of all suspects. White suspects (1.3%) accounted for the remaining significant portionof suspects while Asian/Pacific Islander suspects accounted for less than 0.5% of the known Shooting suspects. 
The Shooting arrest population is similarly distributed. 
Black arrestees (73.5%) and Hispanic arrestees (24.1%) account for the majority of Shooting arrest population. White arrestees account for the remaining 1.7% of the Shooting arrest population.
 How about 2009?:
Shootings
Shooting victims are most frequently Black (72.8%) or Hispanic (23.0%). White victims account for an additional (3.1%) of all Shooting victims while Asian/Pacific Islanders victims account for (0.9%) of all Shooting Victims. 
The race/ethnicity of known Shooting suspects is most frequently Black (79.8%). 
Hispanic suspects accounted for an additional (18.3%) of all suspects. White suspects (1.4%) accounted for the remaining significant portion of suspects while Asian/Pacific Islander suspects accounted for (0.4%) of the known Shooting suspects. 
The Shooting arrest population is similarly distributed. Black arrestees (74.3%) and Hispanic arrestees 
(23.6%) account for the majority of Shooting arrest population. White arrestees (1.6%) and Asian/Pacific Islander (0.4%) account for the remaining portion of the Shooting arrest population.
Hmmm... not too alarming, are these statistics? A pattern has emerged, for those gifted with an eye for discernment.

What about 2010?:
Shootings 
Shooting victims are most frequently Black (73.7%) or Hispanic (22.3%). White victims account for an additional (2.6%) of all Shooting victims while Asian/Pacific Islanders victims account for (1.1%) of all Shooting Victims. 
The race/ethnicity of known Shooting suspects is most frequently Black (74.2%). Hispanic suspects accounted for an additional (23.3%) of all suspects. 
White suspects (1.4%) accounted for the remaining significant portion of suspects while Asian/Pacific Islander suspects accounted for (1.2%) of the known Shooting suspects. 
The Shooting arrest population is similarly distributed. 
Black arrestees (69.2%) and Hispanic arrestees (26.3%) account for the majority of Shooting arrest population. White arrestees (2.9%) and Asian/Pacific Islander (1.5%) account for the remaining portion of the Shooting arrest population.
Wait a second... an alarming pattern is emerging: white people commit virtually no gun crime in New York City! What about 2011?:
Shootings 
Shooting victims are most frequently Black (74.3%) or Hispanic (21.7%). White victims account for an additional (2.6%) of all Shooting victims while Asian/Pacific Islanders victims account for (1.4%) of all Shooting Victims. 
The race/ethnicity of known Shooting suspects is most frequently Black (72.5%). Hispanic suspects accounted for an additional (23.9%) of all suspects. 
White suspects (2.5%) accounted for the remaining significant portion of suspects while Asian/Pacific Islander suspects accounted for (1.1%) of the known Shooting suspects. 
The Shooting arrest population is similarly distributed. 
Black arrestees (67.1%) and Hispanic arrestees (27.9%) account for the majority of Shooting arrest population. White arrestees (3.3%) and Asian/Pacific Islander (1.7%) account for the remaining portion of the Shooting arrest population. 
 
 Was 2012 any different? Did white people buck the trend? Nope:
Shootings 
Shooting victims are most frequently Black (74.1%) or Hispanic (22.2%). White victims account for an additional (2.8%) of all Shooting victims while Asian/Pacific Islanders victims account for (0.8%) of all Shooting Victims. 
The race/ethnicity of known Shooting suspects is most frequently Black (78.2%). Hispanic suspects accounted for an additional (18.9%) of all suspects. White suspects (2.4%) accounted for the remaining significant portion of suspects while Asian/Pacific Islander suspects accounted for (0.5%) of the known Shooting suspects. 
The Shooting arrest population is similarly distributed. Black arrestees (75.0%) and Hispanic arrestees (22.0%) account for the majority of Shooting arrest population. 
White arrestees (2.4%) and Asian/Pacific Islander (0.6%) account for the remaining portion of the Shooting arrest population.
 So, 1.3 percent (2008);1.4 percent (2009); 1.4 (2010); 2.5 (2011); and 2.4 (2012) of the arrested suspects in shootings (defined as any crime where victim struck with bullet) in New York City were white. 

For blacks during that same time, it was 78.3 percent (2008);79.8 percent (2009); 74.2 (2010); 72.5 (2011); and 78.2 (2012) of the arrested suspects in shootings.
 
For Hispanics during that same time, it was 18.3 percent (2008);19.9 percent (2009); 23.3 (2010); 23.9 (2011); and 18.9 (2012) of the arrested suspects in shootings. 

What is alarming is that law-abiding white people will see their guns confiscated; guns used by law-abiding white people to protect their property and families in New York City from black and brown people.
 
Oh, and of 8.3 million people, New York City is 33.3 percent white, 28.6 percent Hispanic, and 25.5 percent black. 

And suspects in gun crimes (since 2008) are almost exclusively non-white.

If you disarm non-whites in New York City and actively prosecute - meaning, the state executes - those who have illegal guns, there would be virtually no gun crime in the Big Apple. 

That is the alarming fact.

69 comments:

Anonymous said...

The increase in crime victims is but a gun-ban away....

My prediction is that crime in my beloved NYC will increase (spike) and the demographics will be roughly the same.

The 85% rule is in effect (Women make or influence 85% of consumer purchases, therefore legal decisions must appeal to womens' general sense of wanting the safety of the state to ban guns, as they will remember who did what at election time).

I feel less safe already.

Anonymous said...

is this is why people don't register their guns?

james m said...

I was going to post this NY Daily News article after the spate of "Knockout King" attacks but decided against it. Good thing too as I would have stepped on PK's latest punchline.

Jim said...

Taking away guns from the group of likely perpetrators will never happen. All must be punished.

In Baltimore, as more blacks moved in, the false fire alarm rate increased drastically. More than 60,000 false fire alarms were occurring annually. Nearly 100% of the false alarms originated in black areas.

A decision was made to remove fire alarm boxes from these particular areas. Long story short. Every fire alarm box in the city was removed. Blacks said it was racist to remove the alarm boxes in the problem areas.

Same will happen with guns.

I wonder how the NRA feels about taking firearms just from problem areas

An astute observer of the human condition said...

I don't imagine the new communist mayor will be tough on crime. He will, however, do all that he can to disarm law abiding white people.

Socialists/progressives/liberals/democrats, don't fear the ghetto. The ghetto is bought and paid for by government handouts. They will not rise up against the government. They will riot if their government cheese is taken away, but they will not target Washington, or politicians. They'll destroy their own neighborhoods, and attack Whitey, whom they blame for all that is wrong with their lives. They will target whites.

On the other hand, law abiding, intelligent gun owners ARE feared, because they are smart enough to see the direction the country is headed under the leadership of socialists/progressives/liberals/democrats. They see how they are being targeted, how their freedoms are disappearing, their taxes are being raised, their homes devalued, and their jobs lost...yet handouts continue for those who have never worked or contributed. When their backs are broken, and they see no way out, THEY will rise up and target Washington, their Capitals, and politicians. THAT it's why they are feared. THAT is why their guns are being confiscated.

Gun control has absolutely nothing to do with guns, and EVERYTHING to do with control.

Republican Rants said...

Yeah D.C. banned all firearms a coupke decades ago, their crime rate went up 183%. Gun bans just make the general public more vulnerable to attack by these cowardly pansies!

Anonymous said...

Hispanics in NYC are mainly Puerto Ricans and Dominicans.

The majority of Dominicans are black and a large majority of Puerto Ricans are black. Both are still classified as "Hispanic," even though they are really blacks.

countenance said...

Those arrested for shootings:

Black 70%
Hispanic 25.4%
White: 2.9%
Asian: 1.6%

Those SQFed:

Black 55.8%
Hispanic 29.6%
White 10.7%
Asian: 3.5%

This means NYPD are probably deliberately stopping more Hispanics, whites and Asians than they need to, and not SQFing as many blacks as they need to, to keep the civil rights hounds at bay.

All moot now with the oil driller coming in.

Note: "Hispanics" in New York tend to be black or mixed race blacks from the Caribbean, the black undertow with Spanish surnames.

Anonymous said...

I'm thinking of one of those "Death Wish" sequel movies right now. I think it was number three in the franchise. I'm thinking of the scene where the NYPD cops knock at the door of the elderly couple's apartment to tell them that they have to turn in their little .38 revolver for some bullshit reason. Then like clockwork, they soon get victimized by the neighborhood gangsters who wear that goofy war paint on their faces. It's not until Paul Kersey (The Charles Bronson one) sets up a springboard trap in front of their window that they can feel safe again, since it knocks out the front teeth of one of the gangsters.

Whiskey said...

The whole point of gun bans is to disarm Whites so that Blacks (and Hispanics) have Droit du Seignor to punish Whites for the "original racial sin" of Whiteness, slavery, and segregation.

That's it. And "the wrong sort" of White people suffer. Not the millionaires in Park Avenue. But the working class Whites in the outer boroughs, Queens, Staten Island, Hipster Brooklyn, etc.

NYC is a dead city walking. It committed suicide to embrace its PC religion. Women of course are far more religious than men. And PC is a powerful religion, the form of Christianity (original sin, martyrs, saints, salvation, faith etc) and the debased Marxism (race, gender, and sexual identity overthrowing class) combined. With both pseudo science and upper class endorsement.

Its toxic. The Crystal Meth of Religions.

City resident said...

NY will be entering the de Blasio era and it'll be a real test case for everyone to wait and see just how fast it all goes downhill. We'll be able to see the experiment unfold before our eyes. They were on the verge of going under years ago but were able to pull out of it. This time around It'll just be a question of how fast and hard it'll fall. How that very strange lefty radical got himself elected is a puzzle to most people around the country. Wonder what they were thinking?

Anonymous said...

90210

re.
Note: "Hispanics" in New York tend to be black or mixed race blacks from the Caribbean, the black undertow with Spanish surnames.

thanks...Puerto Ricans are said to be 20% Black..which might explain their lack of interest in Education,
lack of scientific inventions etc.

Pro-Civ said...

Excellent article Paul. You are the only truth that matters on America on the internet, the kernel, the black hole of all that is America right now.

Indeed, why do so many Americans lack pattern recognition? I think that it is because pattern recognition itself, because it leads to racial realism, has been termed "Racist", and there therefore verboten under modern day Black National Socialism. "Racism", under the broad definition offered by the national socialists of the USSA, is merely pattern recognition. This is large consequences in all areas of philosophy and thought about the world, where one is to always avoid searching for direct causes, and instead bask in a sea of indirect, magical, voodoo causes for each and everything.
Guns are imbued with a fetish-like magical attribute of "causing crime", as are dilapidated buildings, which come from "outsourced industry", which comes from "evil corporate CEOS'.

(In my opinion, one reason for the decline of the modern US auto and steel industries has a lot to do with a lower quality of work brought about by the immigration and employment of Black workers during the Great Migration - don't European, especially Germanic, workers do a higher quality job in just about everything? -- Is supplanting White auto and steel workers with Blacks the very reason Japan was able to "outcompete" the "American" workers in the '70s and '80s? This is a question which has never been investigated- -- because it is RACIST - descending from a cause originating in a pattern of human behavior itself)

No pattern recognition!!!

See slutty, degenerate celebrities perpetuating shamefully unfeminine ways of behaving? This is supposed to be caused by "modernity" itself, as if there was no causal agent. The causal agent, a hostile elite which does not care about the moral and social benefit of the masses, is allowed to fill America with filth.

NO PATTERN RECOGNITION!!!

Blacks shoot most people? That is because they come from poor houses with no activities provided for them. And get this- Blacks don't shoot people, guns in the hands of GENERIC PEOPLE OF NO RACE might decide to shoot themselves.

It is the primitive mentality engulfing America, where Things Fall Apart, Blacks are violent and unwilling to learn because they are "poor" (with free food and housing), and cities just "decline to to factory outsourcing and evil, corporate CEOs."
Kali Yuga

Your idea to create permissive gun laws, then crack down on inner city violations just might work Paul. White will follow the laws, (undeserving) Blacks won't. Very strictly applied LOOSE gun laws may be an answer.

The concept of the "undeserving poor", and the "undeserving citizen" needs spreading in the USA.

Anonymous said...

Jim: "I wonder how the NRA feels about taking firearms just from problem areas"
The NRA fought against those policies in Chicago and D.C., and eventually won in the Supreme Court.
And just as Anon up top said: This is why people don't register their guns. California, New York, or anyplace in between, whereever they had s "harmless" registration program (if you're not a criminal, you have nothing to hide), the bans came next, followed shortly by the knock on the door. But it was fun to call all those people paranoid wackos, wasn't it?

Anonymous said...

Maybe I missed it over the preceding week or two, but did the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution suddenly get repealed?

Just seems as if the NRA had the resources, they should file suit in federal court over these types of city gun bans on the grounds that this infringes upon citizens' legal rights to bear arms.

It just seems like so much common sense is being sacrificed to the PC crowd. There is a 2nd amendment for a reason. Why a penny anne city gun confiscation ban should go unchallenged in federal court is quite frankly, a miscarriage of justice and it lays the groundwork for further 2nd amendment rights to be lost over time.

NRA better start to file suit in federal court. These bans are approaching the unconstitutional stages. Getting late in the game, so to speak, so they'd better file suit to help protect citizens' 2nd amendment rights before we lose the right completely.

PB said...

"How that very strange lefty radical got himself elected is a puzzle to most people around the country."

Electronic voting systems again?

Anonymous said...

What you're seeing in NYC now is only a snapshot, not the video. The motion picture is more interesting.

Bloomberg accepted the decades' old loss of NYC's middle class by trying to adapt the city into a banana republic that worked: an uber-rich stratum of finance, media, advertising and consultancy professions, all to be served by working class whites, blacks and/or immigrants. To make the model work he needed (relatively) low taxes and crime control for the rich and job stability (and crime control) for the servants.

That meant retaining Giuliani's anticrime policies while converting as much of Manhattan as possible into a Disneyland for the wealthy--the first banana republic in history to protect joggers, control cholesterol, and to Keep Fifth Avenue Safe For The High End--but also a safe commute for the cashiers, doormen, and maids.

What does the snapshot tell us? The NYPD are competing for De Blasio's favor. Budgets are at stake, and De Blasio is politically committed to end Stop & Frisk. (And also to fund daycare from new income taxes on the rich.)

But the movie runs like this: the Guiliani-Bloomberg era was a fluke. NYC retreats to Lindsay-Beam-Dinkins, the mean. The whites that will leave this time will take their financial empires with them.

In 20 years, New York looks like Detroit. But I differ with PK in one important regard: there's a reason that whites have not fought to retain control of cities: given the decentralizing changes in technology (one tiny example: telecommuting) "cities" as we knew them are themselves becoming economically obsolete. There is no future in large and dense clusters of human habitation.

Obama and his cronies must believe that this is true, because they have abandoned large scale urban rescue and inner city development for a cheaper model: exporting his voters into white suburbs.

Incidentally, this may have an unintended consequence: opposition may come not from whites but blacks, or rather, black tribal leaders: the mafia of preachers, local politicians, and drug lords who would see their power drain away once their constituency decamps to the formerly lily-white suburbs.

Anonymous said...

I have not been to New York City in about three years. I packed a gun with me every time I went to house-sit for friends of mine in the past. I think now that I would just rather not go there any more.

Bogolyubski said...

So, is this "DeBlasio" going full retard or is it just a final finger-up-the-arse from the Bloombrain (the TWMNBN billionaire who wants only his security detail to have guns)?

It's a full retard event either way, but I'm sure Mittens the underwear-bankster would do just the same were he erected as Lord Mayah.

Whiskey notes:
PCMC = The Crystal Meth of Religions

That's an excellent summary. It really is.

Anonymous said...

OT: White student nearly killed by black mob attack at Atlanta middle school

Bullpen bullying nearly kills 12-year-old

A white student on a middle school football team was savagely attacked by his black teammates. After the brutal beating, the football coach allegedly only tossed him a towel and left him to die. Doctors say the white student came very close to death. The white student still has debilitating injuries. This black attack occurred back in 2012. It has only just now surfaced because the white student's father has filed a lawsuit against the school. The media is still censoring the fact that the perpetrators are black. The school in 46% black, however the football team is almost all black.

If the races had been reversed, this would have been a major news story that went international.

Anonymous said...

Astute observer, comment more. You get it. Talk to the people you love spread the gospel of preparedness. Books of Smith and Wesson, Glock, Mossberg. Americans who matter need to be armed. Breaks down like this: (1) A handgun is perfect tool defend youself in a deadly force situation, such as street crime, Knockout Game, etc. (2) A 12 gauge pump shotgun is damn near indestructible, easy to use and does not require lots of training to be deadly accurate within ten paces. Perfect for home defence. Homie does a home invasion at two in the morning welcome him with three shells worth of 00 buck. My third point is not racial, and possibly off topic. (3) To reduce a Republic of free citizens to high tech serfs / wage slaves would be a daunting task requiring decades, generations of concentrated effort. Were I a tin pot tyrant I would try to destroy the family unit, devalue and degrade the dominant racial stock. Attack masculinity and assertiveness as. "aggressive," possibly mental illness requiring medication and one other thing.

Government monopoly of violence.

Every truly free citizen who wants to stay that way must own a serviceable center fire rifle. In a current military caliber. An adequate AR15 can be purchased
for less than $1000. The US military, domestic law enforcement, and all NATO forces use the 5.56mm / .223 Remington center fire rifle cartridge. There are also lots of 7.62mm / .308 Winchester shoulder arms in use by the grunts / goons of our prospective overlords.

Own a rifle. Know how to use it. If some dirty politician attempts to take it from you, for the children, or any other reason . . .

This is an excellent blog. Lots of valuable information about the weaponized demographic in our midst. The coloreds are a huge problem. A five hundred pound rabid Rottweiler at the end of a steel chain. Loud, scary, easy to put down using shot placement and fire discipline.

Your rifle is protection against the corrupt, criminal system holding the blacks on a leash. A rifle allows a free man or woman to assert their will against those who would enslave them.

Get one for everyone you love and yourself, before it's too late.

Son of Delbert.

Jay Santos said...

I fully support firearm confiscation in New York city. The city is about to begin an experiment in social engineering under the new mayor "smack down dance" De Blasio. As you're probably aware, De Blasio is coupled with a lesbian black womyn, so we will see some interesting philosophies put into action in New York. And they deserve it. More than any collection of people on earth, they deserve it. They don't deserve any firearms to protect themselves either. Life is rough after all.

Anonymous said...

NYC is screwed..I just saw the video of De Blasio's victory dance with his groid family on YouTube...What a disgusting sight!

OT...Thanksgiving was groid-free, didn't see one the entire day! I'm thankful for that! I'm also thankful for SBPDL, it's nice to know that there is other people out there who realize what the hell is going on around here!!

I rarely watch TV, and when I do it's usually a movie. I had dinner with family this year and after it was over we watched a game of foozball (my thugs are better than yours), and after the game I stayed long enough to see about 20 minutes of Entertainment Tonight (ET). That was about all I could stand. It started off with Sandra Bullock and her groid baby. (more propaganda for the idiot women in this country), then on to a series of White Guilt movies: Fruitvale Station, 12 years as a Slave, the Butler. More bullshit fairy tales to make YT give the groids mo' money...It seems to me like they are amping up the white guilt lately, as these types of movies came out maybe once or twice a year, but this year it's several at once. TWWNBN must be responding to all the racial incidents this year, to reassure YT that groids are "human".

Good news from Europe: A girl I know in the country I am moving to decided to bring a London groid out to her city (she honestly didn't know any better, thanks to the TV she thought all the nig nogs are livin' large). The turd decided to run off from her and ended up sexually assaulting another girl. The local boys decided to take things into their own hands, (the police will only put it in a jail with food and a roof over it's head) and play a game of "knockout king". The turd was beat senseless, and the police turned a blind eye. The girl who brought the piece of shit was also warned not to make the same mistake twice. It makes perfect sense why women weren't allowed to vote in this country. I wish all of you a groid-free weekend!!!



Angry Anglo

10mm AUTO said...

“It’s all a battle between the haves and the have-nots,” said Tony Herbert, president of the National Action Network’s Brooklyn East Chapter. “In the end, it’s survival of the fittest, and there are some who want to bring weapons into the mix. That’s what it comes down to.”

With delusional statements like this being made by Pols, there is no chance for Whites keeping their weapons. Between the weapons disarmament movement and the PSMC (the Crystal Meth of Religions indeed) at high fashion, White middle class is truly going down the tubes. Millions of families out of work or losing home/pension and the free Trade/Open Borders koolaid drinkers keep mixing up a fresh batch of Rabbi Heblstien's Extra Strong Egalitarian Grape Drank Civilization dissolver.

To the DHS operatives of the Regime, Christmas this year looks good. The negro, in the ETB/Section 8, Capitol supported Districts it looks like they will eat well over the Holiday’s.

The White Middle class "districts' will still find leaner rations next year, less jobs as brown and Indian (Dot not Feather) suck up their jobs and atomize their neighborhoods. Troublesome Districts of non-passive Whites will find housing prices carefully lowered by HUD and no jobs for their Tributes.

We are playing the Hunger Games for real and if you are White, the odds are NEVER in our favor.

kitabel said...

There are only about 8,000 private pistol licenses in all of New York City (population 8,000,000), or 1 in 1,000.
The remaining 25,000 or so licenses are retired cops, and uniformed security.
All Corrections Officers (jail guards) have licenses, which I found rather strange. They don't arrest people outside the jail, and they're not allowed to carry any weapon at all inside the jail.

Anonymous said...

" Anonymous said...
What you're seeing in NYC now is only a snapshot, not the video. The motion picture is more interesting."

spot on-- especially the point about cities being obsolete.

Anonymous said...

90210
someone here pointed me to Ann Barnhardt [see youtube]..
SHE IS A MUST LISTEN TO..SHE KNOWS OBAMAS TIES TO MU SLIME BROTHERHOOD
ETC.

danaigh said...

As the demographics change from 33% White to 25% or even 10% the slide of NY to a Detroit hellhole will accelerate. What would such a NY look like?

People are watching this drama worldwide. Comments on news stories about the knock-out game and such seem just like SPBDL comments. Many minds are now aware thanks to PK.

And as NY falls, inexorably, the cover-ups, MSM feints and obfuscation will be quite apparant. This event, though horrible to watch unfold, will actually be akin to the breech in the mother-ship, dubbed BRA, as in the movie Independence Day.

The cognitive dissonance of millions will be shattered. Although true believers will not believe their lying eyes!

Anonymous said...

A young chef from NYC just got beaten half to death in Philadelphia; the cage liner reporting the story describes the suspects as "men aged 16-21".

What happened to "teens"? My, they grow up so quickly!

Anonymous said...

"Hispanic" has always been misleading as a demographic. As noted above, Dominicans and Puerto Ricans are largely black or racially mixed (although many deny it).

But NYC also has large numbers of Colombians, Chileans, Equadorians, etc who are either white or descendants of indigenous populations. It makes no sense to lump them together with the Caribbean blacks. They have nothing in common with them except language. It would be like lumping Irish and Kenyans together and calling them "Anglos." Absurd.

Discard said...

Anonymous 90210: Puerto Ricans may be 20% Black, but that's not the reason for their lack of interest in education, lack of scientific inventions, etc. Take it from one who has lived among Mexicans all his life, Hispanics have little or no interest in education, with or without African blood in them.

Anonymous said...

Attention White Debbils:

Turn in all yo slabes at once.

We will no longer tolerate dis turrble scourge of slabery.

If you do not turn in all yo slabes at once, dey wills be confismascated and we gibs dem all free scholaryships to White Girl University.

Dis turrble era of turrrble slabery is finally at an end, whether you like it or not.

signed,
The Sun People

Anonymous said...

"Is supplanting White auto and steel workers with Blacks the very reason Japan was able to "outcompete" the "American" workers in the '70s and '80s?"

The answer is yes. Especially when Affirmative Action forced the hiring of incompetent women and black salaried employees. There's a direct correlation between the forced hiring of women and minorities and companies outsourcing work to foreign countries.

Mr. Rational said...

PAUL KERSEY SPOTTED IN NEW YORK CITY!

Knock-out game "vigilante"* sought in Thanksgiving Day shooting of Bronx thugs (h/t Second City Cop).

* Self-defense is not vigilantism.

Dissident said...

Pro-Civ.

Your comment on "pattern recognition" is accurate. Especially about our domestic auto industry.

If our automotive industries had been located in rural places like Iowa, Nebraska, or anywhere away from the underclass, then I suspect the quality would have been much higher and competition with the Europeans and Asians much closer to parity. I've thought this for a long time.

The problem that we have is that our collectivist government will make sure that our industries remain stifled through these social engineering programs. The Chinese, being a homogeneous society and the Koreans, will not ever have these kinds of lead weights entangling them. Got to love DIE-versity, huh?

"Pattern recognition" that you reference is a good analogy.

The Koreans and Japanese locate their American auto plants in rural areas, have you noticed that? They know. They are smart enough to stay away from the underclass as much as they can, of course they have to comply with the quota's and such, but they build their manufacturing in West Virginia, Alabama, Ohio, Texas, and away from the problems associated with large numbers of blacks.

Anonymous said...

Pro-Civ @ 6:47 and Anonymous @ 7:53 Very good remarks, both of you.

Pro-Civ points out that the quality of (for example) automobiles produced by our technical workforce had to have suffered due to lowering our standards by hiring less intelligent immigrant and black workers. He wonders if this could have been responsible for our losing the trade wars with Japan in the 70's and 80's. Having studied Engineering and machine metalworking, I can't help but believe that there is at least some truth to this. That and Union seniority rules that locked in and guaranteed promotions for unconscientious workers.

And Anon's observation about the black mafia's resisting the Fed's mandated relocation of urban blacks to the suburbs because they fear loss of influence is astute.

Puggg said...

Kitabel,

I can understand why. I'm a CO, really a sheriff's deputy that does CO duty. You're right that COs almost ever can be armed inside a jail, and if they're CO-only, have no power of arrest, (though, again, I'm technically a sheriff's deputy do I do). But they're also jail guards, watching over some bad people who can see who the COs are and talk to their thug friends on the outside.

Anonymous said...

Comrade DeBlasio is working on the glorious new Detoilet tirelessly for the good of the collectivist utopia.
The chocolate fountains and rainbow unicorns socialist paradise is only a few laws and five year plans away.
Workers of the world unite! To each according to his needs.

Anonymous said...

If our automotive industries had been located in rural places like Iowa, Nebraska, or anywhere away from the underclass, then I suspect the quality would have been much higher and competition with the Europeans and Asians much closer to parity. I've thought this for a long time.

This comment is spot on. Polaris Industries put their new Indian Motorcycle Plant in Spirit Lake, Iowa with .014 African American population. I'd just bet the quality is extremely high with pride in workmanship, unlike Detroit. No Negro fatigue there.

robins111 said...

I'd love to live trap about 25 black bears and turn then loose in New Yawk.. It'd be hilarious watching the cops trying to seize guns after that..

Bogolyubski said...

Anon:
someone here pointed me to Ann Barnhardt [see youtube]..
SHE IS A MUST LISTEN TO..SHE KNOWS OBAMAS TIES TO MU SLIME BROTHERHOOD
ETC.


Barnhardt is quite excellent and has done first-rate analysis on many facets of the present crisis. Her take on the economic system in particular is superb. While I give her an overall A rating, she does have a couple of blind spots. In fact, despite being the über-traditionalist Roman Catholic (the kind that used to exist around a century ago), she's remarkably Novus ordo (Vatican II) on two specific issues:

# Race. She still adheres to an essential equalitarianism. In her amazing 2.5 hour video presentation on the economy, she mentions that the sheboons with Obamaphones are "not our enemy". That's simply untrue. They prove they are our enemies every day, over and over again. While Barhardt deserves credit for seeing through the fraud of Tea-Party darling Allen West (belatedly, I might add, after he voted for the Pigford scam), she does not really acknowledge the weaponized nature of negroes, their great enthusiasm to serve as the squids' willing executioners, or the ongoing zebra intifada being waged against whites.

#TWMNBN. For a supposed RC traditionalist, whose predecessors followed the scriptural admonition with respect to the "Synagogue of Satan", she completely glosses over the 98% who make the other 2% look bad (the IKAGO fallacy). While squids are far too small of a group to encompass all TWMNBN, nearly all TWMNBN march to the squid tune with their embrace of Marxism (which she denounces), importation of Muslims into white countries (which she ignores), and their general enthusiasm for promotion of the Crystal Meth of Religions (PCMC).

These are just weak points - probably holdovers from when she was a more conventional Repuke, so it's certainly no reason to stay away from her site, which is often outstanding. I enjoyed her line the other day when she remarked that if the RC's had the pope they deserved, they'd be looking at Pope Snoop-Dog.

Bogolyubski said...

Anonymous:
A white student on a middle school football team was savagely attacked by his black teammates. After the brutal beating, the football coach allegedly only tossed him a towel and left him to die. Doctors say the white student came very close to death. The white student still has debilitating injuries. This black attack occurred back in 2012. It has only just now surfaced because the white student's father has filed a lawsuit against the school. The media is still censoring the fact that the perpetrators are black. The school in 46% black, however the football team is almost all black.

If the races had been reversed, this would have been a major news story that went international.


While I very much hope that the father sues the school district and bankrupts them, I have to ask: Did he somehow think his white son was going to be treated decently in the government skool gulag? Any white parent who sends their kids to public school - especially one with any significant groid population - is an irresponsible parent, deluded by their Religious Crystal Meth.

Anonymous said...

"... the cover-ups, MSM feints and obfuscation will be quite apparent."

locally, a women was robbed of her purse at gun point

the ABC affiliate reported "two teens 15 to 19..."

the CBS affiliate reported "two teens.."

the NBC affiliate reported "two men..." the "reader" was black

Anonymous said...

but on Law & Order, all the offenders are white?

Bogolyubski said...

Anonymous:
Obama and his cronies must believe that this is true, because they have abandoned large scale urban rescue and inner city development for a cheaper model: exporting his voters into white suburbs.

Incidentally, this may have an unintended consequence: opposition may come not from whites but blacks, or rather, black tribal leaders: the mafia of preachers, local politicians, and drug lords who would see their power drain away once their constituency decamps to the formerly lily-white suburbs.


This is a very interesting (and very possibly accurate) observation. Could this be used to our advantage? A sort of reverse-engineering of Alinsky? If anon's observation is correct, the folks lined up on the side of bring section 8 to the pasturelands of Kansas would be the following:

1. DWL leftists, epitomized by various Ministry of Truth hacks, bureaucrats in the regime, etc.

2. Repuke Chamber-of-commerce types - the rope-sellers who never miss an opportunity to a) stab average whites in the back; and b) make lots of money; so as to be praised as "job creators" by morons like Limbaugh.

3. The squids who create the fake money to loan to both the regime and the chamber-of-commerce bloodsuckers.

4. Groids - always wanting more gibs, fresh white meat for muh dik, etc.

On the other site, we have these groups (maybe)

1. WNs like those here, race-realists, plus some whites who understand what Section 8 does to a locale.

2. Black mafia bosses facing a loss of power due to dilution of their base.

3. (long shot) Environmentalists opposed to endless development - the 'paving over of all the green places'. Most of these (DWL) folks' opposition to something of this nature is trumped by their embrace of the Crystal Meth Religion which elevates negroes to holy status, but a few might be persuaded.

Anonymous said...

I'd love to live trap about 25 black bears and turn then loose in New Yawk.. It'd be hilarious watching the cops trying to seize guns after that..



A half dozen large leopards would be much better. It would take them about 2 weeks to track them down. In Detroit with a lot of abandoned housing and a remnant of a police force it would take a lot longer with somewhat more spectacular results.

Anonymous said...

Trial junkie here. To Anonymous 11:37:

Yes, the Bad Guys on Law and Order were around 99% white and they would find extenuating circumstances on those rare occasions when an episode had a black defendant.

The show's viewership liked it the way it was. They wanted to believe criminal defendants in NYC were nearly all white.

Anonymous said...

Couldn't happen to a more deserving people. Let the games begin!

Pro-Civ said...

Thanks for the feedback on the outsourcing made worse due to Aff. Am requirements and Black migratory workers.
"Pro-Civ points out that the quality of (for example) automobiles produced by our technical workforce had to have suffered due to lowering our standards by hiring less intelligent immigrant and black workers. He wonders if this could have been responsible for our losing the trade wars with Japan in the 70's and 80's. Having studied Engineering and machine metalworking, I can't help but believe that there is at least some truth to this. That and Union seniority rules that locked in and guaranteed promotions for unconscientious worker"
"If our automotive industries had been located in rural places like Iowa, Nebraska, or anywhere away from the underclass, then I suspect the quality would have been much higher and competition with the Europeans and Asians much closer to parity. Polaris Industries put their new Indian Motorcycle Plant in Spirit Lake, Iowa with .014 African American population. I'd just bet the quality is extremely high with pride in workmanship, unlike Detroit. No Negro fatigue there."

This would make a great topic to research, I wish there was a book on this topic. Anyone know one?

It's just that these days, you are not allowed to research the human element in anything. Everything is due to external factors, "things just happen", searching for causal mechanisms from solely from external factors has become a society-wide pandemic of illogic.
Bogolyubski:
Astute observations on advocates of each side, without even including foreign agents.
In addition we have all the foreign countries and agents hoping to destabilize and diminish the US on the former side of bringing Section 8's "the the pasturelands".
Which foreign powers might be interested in diminishing and destabilizing the USA?

In the 50's through 80's, the foreign power was the USSR. These days the encouragement of domestic policies which would bring destabilization to the USA will come from our modern enemies:
1) Any countries that want to end the dollar as reserve currency
and/or
2) The Islamic "Caliphate". This would include Iran, and their willing dupes, the Muslim Brotherhood (research this connection for yourself).

We must see afresh the perspective of Black Racism as a biological weapon designed to bring down the USA. In the 50's through 70's, enemies of the USA used the Blacks to riot and destabilize the USA, and I would not put that past them again (see KGB files now available).

If Iran or fundamentalist Islam is our enemy, then we will see an odd situation of Iran financing gangsta rap and thugs, in order to destabilize America.
Does anyone have any further thoughts on foreign influence in using Blacks as a biological weapon?
It was already done in the 70's by the KGB, who would have an interest in destabilizing the USA at this point?
This is the question we need to ask - who are our enemies, both domestic dupes (DWLS, leftists, rappers), and foreign agents (squids, anti-dollarists).
Also, is someone against the dollar even our enemy?

Is it in our interest for the USA to collapse so BRA falls? This collapse can either be in our favor, or it can be in the interest of those who want to loot the resources of the USA, something we do not want.
Does anyone have any cogent thoughts on the matter?

Evil hides behind Blacks, there is no question.
The shield of "anti-racism" renders evil uncriticizable.

Jay Santos said...

Here's a fine example of the media's disinformation "payload". The article below cites the growing distrust Americans have for one another. No surprise there, it's at the very least in part a direct result of (planned or not) multi-culti.

But here's the corrosive "payload" designed to influence the reader: "African-Americans consistently have expressed far less faith in "most people" than the white majority does. Racism, discrimination and a high rate of poverty destroy trust."

In God we trust, maybe, but not each other

You are hit with this kind of overt or subliminal disinformation, propaganda daily. If you watch TV, you are bathed in it.

Pro-Civ said...

SPBDL and Paul Kersey,

I wish to introduce you to Mindweapons in Ragnarok. It seems to tie in a lot with a focused discussion of weaponized minorities.

"This imbalance has led to great distortions in the economy and the culture. Right wingers are suspicious of debt, of gambling, of welfare, of “getting something for nothing.” But since we were not allowed to have any influence whatsoever, our concerns did not translate at all into public policy. It’s been accelerating Keynesianism (money printing) and inflating asset bubbles. Even liberal economists like Mike Whitney see that this isn’t going to work.

Once the dominoes start falling, the whole Bolshevik structure goes down, because it’s nothing but a bunch of debt bubbles anyway. The government employees bubble, the EBT bubble, the military industrial complex bubble, the foreign remittances bubble. Everything goes at once.

And it’s going to hurt real real bad. On the one hand, we have reason to celebrate. If we survive what’s coming, we’ll get a to see a society where liberals and Bolsheviks have ZERO influence whatsoever, and chances are that in the crash period, there will be a lot of blaming and settling accounts going on. But on the other hand, survival itself is going to be an issue. The analogy of economy crashing is no longer “a bad hangover from a party,” it’s major alcohol poisoning."


http://mindweaponsinragnarok.com/

Anonymous said...

Let's see, NY has just started sending out "turn in your gun" letters. These are going exclusively to people who bought them through legitimate channels and registered them legally, meaning they are exclusively white non-criminals.
The new honorary black mayor will end stop and frisk, allowing black gang members to start carrying again.
How can anyone not see that the gun bans, plus ending SQF, are aimed at disarming one ethnic group while arming another? The word for that is ethnic cleansing.

Mr. Rational said...

It's just that these days, you are not allowed to research the human element in anything. Everything is due to external factors, "things just happen", searching for causal mechanisms from solely from external factors has become a society-wide pandemic of illogic.

Shit doesn't "happen".  PEOPLE do shit... and Black people a lot more than most.

The passive voice is the enemy of reason and sanity.

Anonymous said...

My understanding is that this law was actually pushed and passed by Governor Cuomo. It regulates the amount of ammunition a gun can hold. It makes most formerly legal registered guns illegal. You can still modify the gun at great expense. If you complied with the law before, they already have your name and address, and if you don't respond or turn the guns in, the NYPD has set up a heavily armed "strike force," that will visit your home with a search warrant.

Dissident said...

Pro-Civ, says.

"Is it in our interest for the USA to collapse so BRA falls? This collapse can either be in our favor, or it can be in the interest of those who want to loot the resources of the USA, something we do not want.
Does anyone have any cogent thoughts on the matter?"

It can go either way actually. Since we're still armed to the teeth as a nation, the squids could have a much tougher time looting the assets, however, if people get hungry enough, then all bets are off.

We definitely need a hard reset of the system, this is indisputable. The problem arises with trying to guess how long the right side of the equation can hold civilization together. Is there more of us or more of them? People are really starting to wake up in droves, but this could be part and parcel for what the elite want. They play us like fiddles, because they control the media.

Not trying to sound fringe, but they really do use the strategies of tension for social control. The conflict and clash of opposing forces to move the pieces on the social chess board.

They have total information awareness in place now, they know who we are, but who gives a tinkers damn. I think they want social and racial conflict to go hot. Then they can spring the trap of more social control.

We live in damned precarious times folks.

You can believe that this is all organic if you want, and much of it is; it's the 10-20 % synthetic control that moves the pieces.

Keep your powder dry.

Anonymous said...

I get really mad when I think how much of our time, talent, energy and resources are expended dealing with the blacks/mexicans. The crime percentages for New York City alone show that we could be fine with about 10% of our current police/crime system if we were a white country.

Anonymous said...

Law & Order commenter here--don't forget the first suspect was almost always a wrongfully accused minority, later cleared when whitey was found responsible.

Johnny See said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
I'd love to live trap about 25 black bears and turn then loose in New Yawk.. It'd be hilarious watching the cops trying to seize guns after that..



A half dozen large leopards would be much better. It would take them about 2 weeks to track them down. In Detroit with a lot of abandoned housing and a remnant of a police force it would take a lot longer with somewhat more spectacular results.


Great ideas! How about some real, four legged black panthers?


Let me know and I'll bring a truckload of alligators to mix in.

We can call ourselves "The Animal Crackers"

PB said...

"Not trying to sound fringe, but they really do use the strategies of tension for social control."

You are absolutely not fringe. It is a truth among truths. Very little of what you see happening around us is actually how they say it is.

Robert B said...

they aren't trying to disperse us, they are trying to push everyone back into the cities. THey are dispersing blacks because that gives YT the false impression that he has no where to run to. It also eases the strain on the cities.

As I've said before, the energy "crisis" is crapola. It was done under Jimmy Carter and would have been done under Clinton, but two many leases had been let under Reagan and the oil was flowing--to the tune of $.99/gal in 1999. Higher energy prices means smaller homes and devalued prices for suburban/rural homes while raising the value--and tax base, of inner city homes.

You need to read U.N. Agenda 21 and all that it happening--including the B.S. about AGW, will make sense. Your guns are a problem, but the soon to be inked Pacific Trade Agreement will end the last of your rights--such as they still exist. What you all need to "pray" for is the collapse of the dollar. Then you need to pray--and fight for, our ascendancy.

cookiedough said...

Pathetic but dont feel sorry for new york city

The Dude said...

If you're black, you are almost 25 times more likely to be shot in New York City than a white person — and you are also more likely to be arrested for pulling a trigger, alarming new NYPD statistics show.

Notice the squirrelly liberal NewSpeak. If you are black you are not "more likely to be arrested" for "pulling a trigger". "Pulling triggers" is not a crime.

If you rewrite the sentence in a normal fashion you would say that "if you are black you are over 30 times more likely to shoot someone than a white person."

But they water it down, drop the statistics, and make up some bogus crime ("pulling triggers") to give you the feeling that blacks are oppressed by being shot (by whom, pray tell?) AND by being arrested (poor little things!).

It is this relentless, crafty, deliberate, day-in-and-day-out NewSpeak they use to break down your resistance, inculcate white race guilt and teach you to fear and hate the police.

This is their goal.

BlkGrlSeeALot said...

ANON @ 11:37am

RE: "white" offenders on Law & Order

I have recently begun to get into the series; my late grandmother loved it, and I wish I'd watched it with her before her passing.
I love watching the (Misner) trained Jeff Goldblum and Vincent D'Onofrio work, as well as Eric Bogosian et. all...
Yes, most of the offenders are white, but there is an episode (Season 6, Episode 14) of Criminal Intent called "Flipped" with Det. Logan and Wheeler where they are tasked with solving the murder of a hip hop artist named Fulla T. It's basically a pseudo whodunnit about the unsolved murder of Run DMC member Jam Master Jay.
Usually, L&O tracks, dissects and punishes some white (collar) criminal in 45 minutes flat; justice is served and the smart and savvy detectives walk away triumphant.
But in the conclusion of this episode, the black perp delivers a dressing down to Logan & Wheeler that follows after 45 minutes of these 'white' cops learning what "no snitching" means, dealing with an undercover black cop from the 'hood' who (in rather stilted language and over-writing from the L&O team) is working both sides of the case.
After watching many episodes, I remember feeling uneasy and remembering the critiques here on SBPDL about L&O. Those of you who have made the anti-white case against the show are dead on. Hundreds of episodes of taking down various types of "Y.T's" and they fold on this black/hip hop episode?
I think they have some sense over there at L&O; I couldn't imagine the nuanced mind of Det. Goren being outwitted by a hip hop thug; I believe that they made sure that this soft ball was a Logan/Wheeler C.I.

Anonymous said...

"Hispanic" has always been misleading as a demographic.

It's a fake term made up by the US government for anyone who speaks a form of Spanish and is from south of the border, islands etc
In reality you're either White, Black, Indian, or a mixture.Your location of birth means little.Cuba is 2/3 White, 10% Black and 25% mixed but apparently the US gets mostly the lower class aliens who are also from the coloured groups(except for the Whites who left after Castro took their businesses)
You'll also notice that "Hispanic" isn't really used for White countries like Argentina or even Chile much.
In many of these places like the DR there are many mixed breeds.They may think of themselves as White in their own country but in the US may be referred to as Black so this "hispanic" classification is just a way to not hurt their feelings by saying they're black.
"Why, I'm a Hispanic"

I don't know much about baseball but there was talk about there not being enough blacks going into the sport.Apparently they meant US English speaking blacks because there are plenty of blacks from the islands who just speak Spanish but they are still blacks.This is what I mean about this fake "hispanic" nonsense.Are they suddenly not black? lol
Are Haitians or Jamaicans not black because they speak a sort of French or patois?

Anonymous said...

@November 30, 2013 at 7:44 PM

Fuel is cheap in the US. If it was 50 cent gal. in 1970 it's still only $3.50 today and that's about 7x the price which is consistent with the avg. salaries.And you should remember that it started out being very cheap to begin with and was historically cheap.And when you consider that cars get twice the miles per gallon as in 1970 it's really cheaper today even at $3.50 gal.
Food is probably 1/2 the price today as the 60's when you adjust for the fact that money was 8x as good.People spent 20% of income on food, today it's 10%. I guess this is why there is like 5x the obesity rate.People will bitch about everything (except the really important issues like alien invasions and the police state etc)

Anonymous said...

re.

You need to read U.N. Agenda 21 and all that it happening--including the B.S. about AGW, will make sense. Your guns are a problem, but the soon to be inked Pacific Trade Agreement will end the last of your rights--such as they still exist. What you all need to "pray" for is the collapse of the dollar. Then you need to pray--and fight for, our ascendancy.

tell us more...A21 /TPP...please.

Anonymous said...

I'd love to live trap about 25 black bears and turn then loose in New Yawk.

The trigger happy cops would just shoot them quickly.Maybe the bears will get lucky and they'll call in experts to tranquillise them.
Once in awhile a coyote will come into the city and it's fun to watch them try to catch it. They're wily :o)

Anonymous said...

The media incessantly run empathetic sob stories about violent niggers either dying ("he was turning his life around"), getting arrested (he "got caught up in the criminal justice system"), tearing up their 'hoods (they're disenfranchised, alienated, at risk, and other Tim Wise-approved excuses), abandoning dey chirruns (the "men" are incarcerated, the cycle of hopelessness continues, etc). The media is complicit in the obfuscation of crimes committed by niggers nationwide, watering down the severity/savagery involved, if they bother to report the crime(s) at all.

Robert B said...

Anon--

Gas prices are quite high, just as they were when it went up to $.50/gal on the 70's. I know, I was there. In 1970 it was actually $.17/gal. When it rose to .50, it was a huge calimity and it kept going--to over a dollar. We had double digit inflation, double digit interest rates and double digit unemployment. It helps to know what you're talking about.