Friday, September 20, 2013

Correcting Dr. Marie Crandall: "living near black people in Chicago means you are 500 times more likely to be shot than other people in neighborhoods without black people"

But who pulls the trigger? 
Only days after  a Northwestern University published a study claiming black people in Chicago are compelled to fire guns at one another when they live in close proximity to 'liquor stores or bars', this happens [13 shot in park: 'My younger brother was on the floor', Chicago Tribune, 9-20-13]:
Semehca Nunn tried hard to talk about her 3-year-old grandson, one of 13 people shot as neighbors played basketball in Cornell Square Park in the Back of the Yards Thursday night.
"They need to stop, they need to stop," Nunn said, the last word coming out as almost a shriek as she closed her eyes and collapsed crying.
A pick-up game was being played on the park's basketball court in the 1800 block of West 51st Street around 10:15 p.m. when at least one gunman walked up and started firing, apparently with a high-powered gun.
Thirteen people who were on the court or were watching the game were hit, many of them in the arms or legs.
The boy, Deonta Howard, was standing on the court and was shot near the ear, the bullet exiting through his cheek, according to police and relatives. His family said the boy is expected to recover but will need plastic surgery.
Three of those wounded, including Deonta, were in serious to critical condition this morning. The others ranged from serious to good condition, including a 15-year-old boy and a 17-year-old girl.
Police believe the shooting stemmed from an ongoing dispute between the Black P. Stones and Gangster Disciples, a law enforcement source said. It was not known if any of the victims were intended targets.
Police said they were questioning several people, but would not say whether any of them were suspects.
"I think it was like an AK," said one neighbor, describing the shooting. "Man, it was a lot of shots. Man, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. A little boy got hit in the face."
Another neighbor said he heard as many as 20 shots. "I was across the park and I heard the shots and I came over and there was a lot of people down. It happened so fast. They were just playing ball, like they do everyday."
Alcohol purchased at liquor stores and bar hopping doesn't lead whites in Chicago to use guns... why do inebriates alter blacks mental composition in such a debilitating manner? 

Dr. Marie Crandall study doesn't factor in the one simple variable, clarified in her research showing no clear correlation to gun crime and liquor stores/bars in areas devoid of black people. 

That variable is simply this: in the absence of blackness, civility and culture flourish (even if its enhanced with liquor and beer!) [Study links liquor stores and bars to shooting risk: NU faculty member says findings point to broader issues faced by poor urban neighborhoods, Chicago Tribune, 9-19-13]:
Chicagoans near a liquor store or bar on the city's South or West sides are up to roughly 500 times more likely to be shot than other people in the neighborhood, according to an abstract of a study released Wednesday by Northwestern University. 
Though violent crime is a persistent issue in some distressed neighborhoods, Dr. Marie Crandall says there is a link between a troubled neighborhood resident's proximity to a liquor retailer and the risk of becoming a victim of gun violence.
Crandall, an associate professor of surgery at Northwestern's Feinberg School of Medicine and a trauma surgeon at Northwestern Memorial Hospital, said she expects the study's conclusions to be controversial.
 
But Crandall said the data could drive broader discussions about how easy access to alcohol may affect urban neighborhoods already plagued by poverty, crime and a lack of easy access to nutritious food. A common thought is that liquor retailers in high-risk neighborhoods are prone to violent crime, but there has previously been little quantitative evidence to support it.
"You're adding alcohol to an already volatile situation in a distressed community," Crandall said.
The study found that gun violence rates near liquor stores in Chicago's southern and western portions stand in stark contrast with the rest of the city. Crandall found no clear link between liquor retailers and gun violence in more affluent areas but said clear risks are apparent in more impoverished areas such as Austin, Woodlawn, Roseland and Englewood.
 Chicago's southern and western portions are populated by the descendants of the "Great Migration" of blacks from the south. 

Those "affluent" areas of Chicago with no clear risk of gun violence aren't populated by those same Nubian descendants.

So it goes to show Dr. Crandall's study is wrong.

It should be: living near black people in Chicago means you are 500 times more likely to be shot than other people in neighborhoods without black people.

76 comments:

10mm AUTO said...

ZING! Paul Aces it!

DWL's can't say it. They want to, but they would lose their teaching creds if they said it. But in their hearts they KNOW that negros are smelly, incompetent, violent, psychopathic, cannibalistic morons with low impulse control but they just can't say it. That guns and negros mix like gasoline and a match.

However, we can.

I think this is a whole new line of attack! Rewriting DWL's studies to simply "color" in the facts. Everyone who reads this knows that there is a liquor store in their hometown, probably just down the street. They also know that bullets don't come flying through the windows if they live in a city, town or area without negros or Hisspanics (spelling intended). They live in a "low crime" area with "good schools" and maybe a "Neighborhood Watch" which is the modern equivalent to the Sunset laws.

EVERYONE knows it is the negro, but no one says anything, so crap like this gets published as though it was real science. It is the object, the gun, the liquor, the baseball bat, the drugs, the hooptie, the AK-47, the hoodie, etc that CAUSE negros to commit crimes.

Imagine, you are walking along and you see a Colt 45 Automatic leaning against the telephone pole singing "We shall Overcome" or "Swing Low Sweet Chariot!". Suddenly the pistol sees you and in a fit a drunken emotion, fires three shots in your direction. That is what this "scientist" wants you to believe. This magical thinking is the same symptom as cities have putting up resistance to Payday loan stores. It be da stores and sheet, putting good negros into debt wif der blinking lights and their mind control.

This isn't science, it is paternalistic negro pacification by object blaming.

Dan said...

You could do a double blind.

Everyone knows the blacks are zombies.

Dan said...

Just replace synonyms of impoverished with negro and you get the point.

If we were to disarm the blacks, ban the sale of alcohol to them, ban various things
that whites mostly cope with but are signs of decadence and decay. Do that and cut off the black from welfare. Reduce them to about 25 million. Then they can pick up the rubbish drive their own busses and serve.

Problem solved.

Anonymous said...

"Safe Passage" worker hits woman, steals EBT card:

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/09/19/safe-passage-worker-hit-woman-stole-benefits-card-authorities/

Dis be da comunitee dat Barry orgunized, uh hum, dats rite.....

Anonymous said...

The 13 shot last night in Chicago were located in an area referred to as "Back of the Yards" as this was behind the Chicago stockyards. So the initial workers were white immiigrants that did hard jobs for a decent prevailing wage and lived nearby and took care of the neighborhood and their properties. The Chicago Park districts were beautiful with pools, grounds, fields, clubhouses, showers and all of that changed when you know who started to show up and white flight ensued.

Anonymous said...

Funny thing is, near where I live, there's a liquor store and 3 gas stations selling rivers of liquor - not one shooting and only one robbery in 10 years! But that's just one of the many benefits of living in a majority white area.

Feel-good link - I say pack up and let them have at it. http://www.catholic.org/international/international_story.php?id=52434

Anonymous said...

Iceland has a high density of guns, liquor, and people crowded onto small areas of an island with long periods of cold dark gloomy weather. The young people are fond of extreme metal music with violent sounds and themes.
Why is it so extremely peaceful, happy, and prosperous?

Could it be that Icelanders are the descendants of Nordic males and Gaelic females, whereas the obamavilles of Chicago are filled with blacks?

"Plagued by poverty, crime, and a lack of easy access to nutritious food."
"Distressed community".

Real world translation:
While Iceland is blessed by the presence of White people of Northern European descent, Chicago neighborhoods are distressed by a plague of black people.




HaroldC said...

Gee, I wonder if there is any sort of overlap between alcohol retailers and the neighborhoods of a certain demographic. Are there any Negro neighborhoods without a alcohol retailer?

Anonymous said...

I wonder how many of the casualties were aspiring rappers.

Bogolyubski said...

I wonder how many of the casualties were aspiring rappers.

That, and future cancer researchers, doctors, architects, explorers, astronauts, rocket scientists - every single one. Just axe Mickey-Dee.

Anonymous said...

Trial junkie here.
The Chicago Police Supt., Garry McCarthy, wailed that "illegal guns drive violence."

McCarthy admitted some of the victims were in gangs as well as the likely shooter.

Anonymous said...

""They need to stop, they need to stop,..."

yeah, yeah, it's always somebody else.

It's not me, it's not my kids, it's somebody else's kids that's doing the killing.

Of course, nobody knows nothing

Anonymous said...

When I lived in southern states that had dry counties, the negroes all had a house that sold liquor in their neighborhood. No white neighborhood had such a thing that I knew. If you wanted liquor without driving two or three counties over you bought it from the enterprising negro. Making things illegal does not make them go away. The problem is not liquor, guns, or drugs. The problem is the people. This professor is so full of crap she could be an outhouse.

Expiring Rapper said...

Bogolyubski said...
"I wonder how many of the casualties were aspiring rappers"

They are all aspiring rappers,aspiring rapists and aspiring murderers....

NORDIC CAUCASOID said...

greatwhites,

that study by the DWL's about the booze and guns is well full of total shit if you asked me! total shit skinned! a.k.a. black skin!

well for every Newport billboard sign put up means that you are likely to get cancer too if you stand next to the second hand billboard sign areas! such crap from the left wing in this country. and as usual they got to hide the fact that their favorite pets are dangerous to every race in this country. and I know everyone who stops bye SBPDL has never been running around basketball courts at the ripe old age of three after 10p.m. right? right! thank god for real white mothers!

fuck em all they stink like wet dogs even when they are dry! black fatigue is building up more momentum in the U.S.A.!


GODSPEED/SEGREGATION NATION!!!

Jay Santos said...

I was reading an article the other day about the danger of wolf attacks. The author seemed to be making the case that wolf attacks were on the rise and cited three or four attacks on humans over the past couple of years. There were a few university or US government reports on the issue referenced and it just struck me how odd it is that we have researchers focuses on the danger of wolves and no one will utter a word about the danger blacks represent. Instead of studying the details behind one wolf attack, why the hell isn't someone studying the daily killings by blacks. What kind of danger do wolves represent when compared to blacks? With the negro, we have literally introduced and maintain a dangerous animal around vulnerable prey constantly.

Just looking at negroes as a predator, some researcher could report

"Two of these creatures killed an 88 year old man in Washington State. Another two killed a 12 year old girl in New Jersey and dragged her body off. Several more killed a young Australian student in Oklahoma recently. A 13 month old infant was taken by a pack of two in Georgia. A college professor was killed by one acting alone and his partner badly injured in Seattle. A pack killed a 62 year old disabled man right in Chicago. Another pack, this time of four, killed a 19 year old male in South Carolina. There was a pack that killed an 85 year old woman and her 90 year old husband in Oklahoma. Most recently a sole individual killed 12 people right in Washington DC."

Would that start to get people's attention?

countenance said...

Many parts of St. Louis used to have a tavern on almost every corner.

countenance said...

Aspiring Rapper Arrested For Murder Of Aspiring Rapper

ST. LOUIS, Mo. (FNN) – Nu’dandrifftavious Jones, a 19-year old aspiring rapper from St. Louis, has been arrested for the murder of Doodooquan Williams, 18, also an aspiring rapper from St. Louis. The murder happened at a home in the Fairgrounds neighborhood just north of Fairgrounds Park.

“How could someone kill my baby?,” screamed Euquestrian Williams, 33, the victim’s mother, in an interview with Fake News Network. “He was a good boy, an honor roll student, a great athlete, who happened to fall in with the wrong crowd but was in the process of turning his life around. He was like the best son a mother could ever have, you know. And there he is, lying in a box, another victim of these streets.”

La-a Jones, 33, the mother of the suspect, was equally as despondent in her interview with FNN reporters. “There was this here shooting, and this here boy got kilt, and then the police came around and arrested my baby boy for no reason. He don’t do no murdering, he’s a good boy, an honor roll student, a great athlete, who happened to fall in with the wrong crowd but was in the process of turning his life around. He was like a mother’s dream come true, know what I’m saying? And my baby is sittin’ in jail, another victim of these streets.”

Nu’dandrifftavious Jones remains in the St. Louis City Jail in advance of a bond hearing tomorrow, when he is expected to be ordered held without bail.

Reverend Bacon said...

Yes, we can all see the autocorrelation inherent in this "science." Liquor stores are a proxy for "black neighborhoods." I would suspect that she'd get a better regression if she used check cashing stores instead; or weave salons, or other things that are better proxies. White people drink alcohol, too, as Paul pointed out.

Let her share her data, as they screamed to John Lott on his "More guns, less crime" book. Of course, he did share, but they still screamed.

http://johnrlott.tripod.com/surveysupport.html

Anonymous said...

All you really have to say anymore is "poor urban" if you really mean "black". Then you even get to sound educated and sensitive.

"Pro- Patria" 31st Inf Regiment said...

Thank goodness they cannot pick & identify (choose) their targets. They, whose name we cannot mention-per DWL, belong to the school of shoot & spray (or pray). In over 30 yrs of military service I can count on one hand the number of blacks that could hit a target at a KD range (ie: known distance). The peasant farmer of SE Asia, with an old weapon, could stop, wound or kill a whole platoon of blacks with the usual results of the "feet don't fail me) mantra of the negro infantryman as he fled to the rear only stopping possibly to rape some peasant farming in the paddy. Off the subject I read that "Red Lobster & Olive Garden" are not doing well within the food industry. Seems I read that the POTUS wife stuck her nose in how their menus should be with this as a possible result as they followed her guidance.

Anonymous said...

Gee, I just came from the Dirt Cheap Liquor Store in St. Charles, Missouri (97% White) and didn't hear any gunshots at all, not even a truck backfiring. I wonder why? Actually it was quite a pleasant experience, the clerks were friendly and not sitting behind a wall of plexiglass. Thank God there is still a few non-fuxxated, mostly white areas.

Anonymous said...

Saying that one's chances of being harmed when around a majority-black population is a no-brainer statement, like saying you'll be sunburned if you lay in the Florida sun all day.

Anonymous said...

90210


http://takimag.com/article/social_oncology_race_and_the_legacy_media_fred_reed/page_2#axzz2fTkcKAUL

cool article.

Anonymous said...

300 party drunk teens do a $20K trashing of vacation house of ex NFL player in upstate NY


assholes? surely
all white? most likely

because no guns and no one died

Southron said...

There may be a few people that actually believe that blacks are not the cause of their own problems, but most people already know the truth.

Even blacks themselves know. That's why they always want to be near whites.

I have seen lower class neighborhoods populated by whites that were safe and clean, despite it's residents being relatively poor.

That magical day comes where blacks start moving in. It starts small. They walk down the street, blocking it, staring you down. Then a bicycle disappears. Things start coming up missing from your yard.

Then, the white mass exodus starts. The empty houses become occupied by more and more blacks. By this point, the gangs are there, with the drug deals and shootings.

The neighborhood is dead.

Did a liquor store cause it? Slavery? Segregation? No. Blacks came.

I'm starting to see the beginning signs in my own neighborhood. I was adding some landscaping bricks to my yard last weekend, and started thinking about it. As a took a level to make sure each block was straight and level, I started to think about what it will be like when my neighborhood falls, and I have to move.

Will my home be a crack house when blacks take over my neighborhood, and I am forced to flee? Will bullets fly through what were my walls?

I wonder if the blacks that will eventually live here will appreciate all the work I did to keep this house nice? Of course they won't. They'll immediately start tearing up what I and my family have built and worked on for years, and using my money in the form of government handouts to do it.

I don't want to move, but if I wait too late, my house could be worthless, and my family and I could be in danger.

All this is happening because no one is allowed to address the dysfunction of black people. They are permitted to and encouraged to continue their destruction, and you and I have to pay for it.

I'll end up in another house, further away, putting down some more landscaping bricks praying I don't see a moving truck pull into the neighborhood with blacks in it.

Anonymous said...

If you think things are bad in Chicago and urban America now, imagine what will happen if the feds ban Newport cigarettes...

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101026219

The statist nannies see their sale as somehow "racist", while blacks will see their ban as selective racism. "They ain't banning whitey's Marlboro lights".

Pull up a chair. This could get interesting.

Anonymous said...

Southron...good post. Sad to say it, but that truck may be heading to your neighborhood right now. And if you look close, that'll probably be Eric Holder driving it. Helping out "his people".

City resident said...

Firewater makes the natives wild and crazy, dangerous to be around. Everybody knows that. It's best to avoid areas where the natives imbibe firewater. How much did that "study" cost? The stupidity of these educated academics is just amazing. I could have told her all that for free.

Theresa the Night Nurse said...

Chicago does not have a gun problem, nor does it have a liquor store problem. It has a nigger problem. It's just that simple.

Bogolyubski said...

Trial Junkie:

The Chicago Police Supt., Garry McCarthy, wailed that "illegal guns drive violence."

Well, at least the excuse du jour isn't the pilgrims. That was the one he floated last year. Yet, here we are a year later and McCarthy remains in office, spewing one lie after another. It never ends.

Bogolyubski said...

@countenance

....perfect. It would be even better if someone were able to sneak it into AP's newsfeed. Few of the Duranties would be able to tell what you'd done, but if it were actually printed in hundreds of newspapers those who could see would be in tears - from laughter.

Anonymous said...

I feel your pain. I an seeing same in zip 32806 in Orlando. I am planning a move out of state, perhaps Idaho, Oregon or Washington. Since blacks starting increasing thanks to some apt complexes beginning to accept Section 8, 2 gangs of young black males have been caught for breaking into homes, a white guy was pistol whipped and robbed in an otherwise safe white affluent area known as Thornton Park and at least 2 women were victims of carjackings in the driveways of their homes. Today while in the local ABC Liquor store, a black guy was caught trying to steal liquor while I was in the store. My limit has been reached. Time to flee increasing blackness. From De'Ontavious Jizzaiah Jones.

Anonymous said...

I recall that story.

If I'm not mistaken, this is the same underserved distressed community in which 15 year old U'Da'Man Watkins suffered a horrific death just two days previously.
If still get a lump in my throat when I see his 30 year old mother, Fri'chickenisha, screaming that her baby was an expiring vegetarian. "He lub da animals".

U'Da'Man was mauled to death attempting to sodomize a pit bull.
How sad!

Bogolyubski said...

Looks like we have yet another example of the groids' turdish touch - the visible black hand of economics. It's really a fascinating and insightful article. Stix is married to an Trinidadian of Indian (dot) origin and visits the place regularly. Read the article and one soon notices all the familiar patterns you see in urban settings from Detroilet to $hitcongo to NO to Birmingham to Jackson.

It's all directly the result of the turribul, tuuribul legacee ob de slabery (and colonialism) of course, even though slavery was abolished there in 1838. The pattern repeats regardless of the locale, regardless of the history. Another thing that repeats is the behavior of DWLs (overseas ones in the case of TT, as the small population of YT who once lived there is basically gone now). It's a familiar meme: all of the crime, poverty and corruption are the fault of Y.T. Rayciss (we really need to come up with a cartoon character) - who doesn't even exist in TT any more.

Anonymous said...

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=596_1379723860#C5omA1gcB8yE4Rvy.99

The ooks babble.

8MM

Anonymous said...

90210

re.

I have seen lower class neighborhoods populated by whites that were safe and clean, despite it's residents being relatively poor.

That was most of USA pre 1940. Then there was the 'boo,' 1940-1970.
The dems opened the floodgate in 1965 and USA is dying.

Ghetto did not mean 'crime n PoC'.
ghetto meant one ethnic group in poverty, in one area of a city.

Pity the Libs dont teach that. That ghewttos were safe, when dey wuz YT.

Anonymous said...

90210

from foundationcenter.org

September 16, 2013

Minorities

Moving the Needle: Exploring Key Levers to Boost College Readiness Among Black and Latino Males in New York City, a report from the Research Alliance for New York City Schools, finds that young black and Latino men face "opportunity gaps" and are exposed to school-level practices that negatively, and disproportionately, affect their outcomes....

[yikes, they dont study?]

NORDIC CAUCASOID said...

@sept 20, 6:03 p.m.

great post, and ain't that a bitch that us whites are worrying about a U-Haul truck pulling up with a black family that also has a couple of young teenage black girls in it. that makes it worse cause "Lil" ja-mal be loven dem boo's more than mac-donalds!(black version) meaning you'll have so many young urban males sitting on your property and littering and stealing car radios just cause the black so-called family has daughters! my personal nightmare!

after saying that let me throw this at you greatwhites.

Do you think blacks get nervous when they would see a U-Haul truck pull up with a big vibrant WHITE FAMILY in it?

Or do you think a so-called black family worries about their property values when they see that same WHITE family pull up in that U-Haul?


And lastly do those same blacks think to themselves "there goes the neighborhood" cause of the WHITE family moving in across the street?

I'll give you my answer about all three questions.-----HELL NO!
what say you greatwhites?

GODSPEED/SEGREGATION NOW!!!

Anonymous said...

10 M Auto has nailed it.

Anonymous said...

-Fireforce- here...

>>McCarthy admitted some of the victims were in gangs as well as the likely shooter.

Bingo.
That's the dirty little secret about gun violence in America. In the vast majority of cases both the shooter and the victim have previous criminal records. Most gun crimes are thus "bad guys killing other bad guys". The reality is that if you take some common sense precautions*, most law abiding people have little chance of being a victim of a gun crime in the US.

*-ie avoid high crime areas/minority neighborhoods, stay away from the drug scene, etc..

Anonymous said...

Is Chicago anywhere near Chicongo ?

Anonymous said...

"Wherever you go we will follow. You cannot escape us."So speaks the words of the black thug from Atlanta.Perhaps in the future,Whites will buy large mobil homes rather than houses and set them up in trailer parks or rented plots of land.Then just drive away when the black undertow arrive.Whites need to ban together and homeschool their kids,rather than support schools that pander to the black trash.The Public School system is a disastor for Whites. Good schools attract the violent blacks like sugar attracts the ants.Blacks are the lice that feed off of the white hosts and they will never join the human race.

Anonymous said...

Shooting into ANY large crowd of black people is usually a self contained event. The survivors are sure to include many hair dressers and barbers, preachers, and experienced pall bearers!

Lily White said...

"They need to stop, they need to stop,..."

Yes, they do. However, the denizens of the 'hood, while claiming to want the shootings to stop, are the first to howl when anything is done to stop them. If the police try to arrest anyone, the residents switch from wanting the shootings to stop to screaming that the po-po be there in they neighborhood 'cause they be racist.

You in the 'hood can say, "They need to stop" all you want, but until you want black thugs to stop shooting you and your "babies" worse than you want to knee-jerk defend those self-same thugs from any repercussions, simply because they have the same skin color as you, the chances of them stopping are pretty slim.

Mutant Swarm said...

Quick! without looking, guess who's involved (again):

Applebee's Calls Police On Family With Noisy Kids

Notice that these adults pictured are not "ghetto rats," but appear to be middle class.

Notice also that us White people, who many thought would never "wake up," have proven differently in the comments section. Ten years ago, nobody would have dares, even anonymously, to admit to this degree of negro fatigue.

Tyrone noose said...

"Then they can pick up the rubbish drive their own busses and serve.

Problem solved."


You have expectations beyond capabilities inherent in the negro.

Thanks for the lol

Get a black dog. Avoid the groid

Anonymous said...

Blacks
Freedom
Civilization

Choose any two.

Where's my PhD?

Gwinnett Gladiator said...

Warmest, race-realist wishes from the ATHell! On topic – the depths of the DWL’s capacity to create alternate theories and realities is the subject that’s truly worth of university study. But that would be akin to asking a pig to self-assess its own personal hygiene. In the mind of a DWL, every ill of society can ONLY result from some complex, interwoven process that only they have the capacity to unravel and fully understand, and can only be corrected via massive gov’t programs, at the expense of YT’s productivity.

Local news media reports violent crime incidents (generally speaking), which lead the news each evening. Watch your local news for one week, in any major city in the county, and the source of the problem is immediately obvious. Yet DWLs throw Occam’s Razor to the wind. Instead, DWLs flush this fundamental (and white) tenet of the scientific process down the toilet, while simultaneously demonizing non-liberals as deniers of science. Now THERE’S an angle of attack for Jim Demint, but he doesn’t have the courage to speak the truth. Instead, he is more comfortable throwing Jason Richwine to the wolves when he dared allude to the truth. The Demints of the world are all dead to me.

I am compelled to note what a tear Melanie has been on this week! Even being so bold as to engage CF, directly. Bravo! For the uninitiated at SBPDL, so that you don’t have to bother reading CF’s posts, the message in every one is as follows: instead of worrying about the ills caused by black people, we should REALLY be concerned about the national debt/federal reserve/quantitative easing, etc. The latter is, of course, true, but does nothing to render the former invalid.

Also, for the record, I miss ex-New Yorker! I hope he is doing well and will return at some point. What an unapologetic beacon of free speech his is!

At this point, I will delve into some research I did earlier this week. Specifically, I decided that it was time to look further into the nature of Botswana, which has been nominated as a majority-black polity that rises to white standards of civilization.

My assessment: well, not exactly. Although heralded as a “success story,” I believe there is a lot more at play, which I will try to explain. Basically, the fact that it is not a complete human rights debacle with genocide and a dictatorship is the main reason it is being held up as some kind of model for the future of Africa. Kind of like the oft-referred to gallon of vanilla ice cream with just a touch a feces.

First off, Botswana is one of the least populous nations on earth, with just over 2 million inhabitants. It has an overall murder rate of 14.5 per 100K, putting it on par with Milwaukee, per 2011 data. The capitol city of Gaborone has a murder rate of 16.13/100K, per 2009 data, which is on par with Shitcongo and Memphrica, per 2011 data. A current assessment from the US embassy in Gaborone (capitol of Botswana) is available here. Note the prevalence of home invasion, with a preference for the occupants being present, which requires multiple assailants to be successful, which necessarily equates to criminal gang activity.

70% of the country is occupied by the Kalahari desert, and is largely uninhabitable. Over 50% of households own cattle, which is the largest single source of rural income. The fedrah gubmint gave Botswana $7 million of YT money to reduce their debt to the US in exchange for more extensive land conservation efforts.

Gwinnett Gladiator said...

[Continued]

Botswana is supposedly the least corrupt country in Africa. What an amazing accomplishment? They import refined petroleum and electricity from South Africa, with some domestic energy production from coal. Currently, Botswana’s economy is propped up by diamonds. Uranium is also present, as well as gold and copper. The gov’t is supposedly trying to plan ahead, knowing that the diamond supply will be exhausted in about 20 years. The largest diamond mining company in the country is called Debswana, and is…wait for it…50% gov’t-owned.

There has been massive foreign investment in Botswana, much of which originates from China. Thus, I would assert that their economic boom in the 2000s was driven almost entirely by the influx of foreign capital investment, based almost exclusively on the known existence of precious natural resources.

Although they are said to have a middle class, there is some b/s going on in that assessment, too. This article indicates that only 29% of the population is in a truly stable, middle-class position, as well as containing some additional information that supports my premise. Again, being “the best” in Africa is not even remotely comparable to the standards of white, western civilization.

Since 2000, tens of thousands of Zimbabweans have flooded Botswana. We all know why, of course. Also, Botswana has been heavily criticized for moving traditional (mud hut), indigenous peoples off their lands. But wait! I thought only evil YT in America was the only civilization ever to do such things?! I wonder if they have a term in Botswana for this a la RAYCISS!!

Medical care outside of the capitol city is said to be rudimentary, at best. Life expectancy has decreased from a high of 64.1 years in 1990 to 55 in 2009. Not at all disturbing… In 2006, it was estimated that 24% of adults has HIV or AIDS. I read that this is the second-highest infection rate in the world after Swaizland. Free anti-retroviral drugs are available, and massive American (YT) dollars have been thrown at the epidemic, including some SBPDL favorites: Bill and Melinda Gates, Merck Foundation, Botswana-Hahhhhvard AIDS Institute, U. Penn., etc. Rampant promiscuity of every imaginable form is identified as a primary contributor to the problem. Thus, I expect no behavior is changing – it’s simply being relieved of any consequences with YT’s free medicines.

There are some educational opportunities in Botwsana, with an emphasis on technical colleges and training, which probably makes sense given the raw materials. They are said to have some decent highway infrastructure. However, I think that, in their haste to herald Botswana as an example of successful civilization in Africa, DWLs are really, really jumping the gun. If those natural resources dry up, and there is no reason for the foreign investment to continue, I see no reason that things couldn’t regress to the mean in a big way, very quickly.

In addition, I have certainly not heard Botswana’s rape statistics heralded as being the highest in the entire world. Nor the Islamic terrorist activity that is probably more extensive that what is reported given it’s known, rampant existence in neighboring hellholes like Somalia.

Gwinnett Gladiator said...

[Continued]

I also viewed several videos about Botswana. Here’s what it looked like to me – the white and Chinese upper-class the run the industry that is in place, as well as the gov’t power players, all live in gated, heavily fortified compounds, a la South Africa. I’m sure armed security is also part of the equation. Extreme poverty is still rampant.

They supposedly boast a literacy rate of around 81%. Good for them. However, the specter that Botswana meets or exceeds similar standards of western civilization in the areas we routinely cite seems to me to be a massive, massive stretch.

Gwinnett Gladiator

Anonymous said...

The Golden Dawn is rising in Greece.
http://firstlightforum.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/golden-dawn.jpg

Jobbik, the radical nationalist party of Patriots, is rising in Hungary. They have formed the Magya Garda to protect their country. http://cdn1.spiegel.de/images/image-140544-galleryV9-bnhx.jpg

The UK Independence Party is having a meteoric rise in popularity, demanding the UK free itself of centralized, federalized EU control. Demanding an end to the rape of the country through financialization.

Generation Identitaire, the "Identity Generation", a group of Generation Y activists demanding an end to the "multiculturalism" and moral relativism of the Baby Boomer generation.

The Freedom Party in Austria has made enormous gains and openly talks about the TWMNBN-sponored plan to destroy the West demographically.

I am SO sick and tired of people on here talking about how we're DOOMED, just DOOMED, I tell ya!

A wave of Nationalism is taking hold. The problem is that most of you see the world through the lens of athlete-worshipping, "free" market-idolizing, beer-swilling Bubba conservatism. That ideology is dead. It's a pathway to destruction. The "free" market (that is ironically leading us straight to feudalism and serfdom) must be utterly destroyed. Moral relativism must be destroyed. Cultural relativism must be destroyed. Anti-intellectualism is our enemy. Kick out foreign capital (and MOST of the capital in the US belongs to foreigners, just because they may carry US citizenship or a passport doesn't mean they have our nation's interests at heart), destroy the mindless zombie pop-culture, instill identity-based values in the next generation, revive militarism and give men their spines back.

New powers are rising ...




Anonymous said...

Fourth grade students in Vermilion Parish, La. were given a homework assignment that included words like “Po Pimp” and “mobstaz,” but school officials said the worksheet was age appropriate based on an education website affiliated with Common Core education standards.
...
Vermilion Parish School Superintendent Jerome Puyau told Fox News the “po-pimp” assignment was aligned to a fourth grade English Language Arts standard for Common Core.


http://nation.foxnews.com/2013/09/19/starnes-fourth-graders-taught-about-%E2%80%98pimps%E2%80%99-and-%E2%80%98mobstaz%E2%80%99-louisiana

The Common Core standards are about to rape education in this country (even more). The theory is basically: Black kids are idiots who can't learn, so lets dumb down the curriculum, and force it on EVERY school in America.

Anonymous said...

Another Black killing an elderly person.

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Death-Penalty-Sought-in-Elderly-Womans-Stabbing-Death-224464941.html

Prosecutors in central Pennsylvania say they'll seek the death penalty against a man in the killing of an 87-year-old relative of a witness in a sexual assault case against him.

Roth, from South Whitehall Township outside Allentown, was staying at her son's home to attend her great-granddaughter's high school graduation. Marsico says Porter killed Roth and set fire to another home to try to frighten witnesses from testifying against him in the sexual assault case.

Porter was free on bail when Roth was killed.


The judge who let him out on bail should be tried for Treason against the People of the United States.

Anonymous said...

from takiMag:

[this really got to me]


"And if the original incident is a hoax, so what?"
When the Tawana Brawley fraud unraveled William Kunstler said it didn't matter; the important thing was that she raised the issue of white racism.
When campus hate-crime hoaxes are exposed the professors shrug "Who cares? This is an opportunity for a teachable moment!"
When I was in second grade, I was going to a Quaker school. In social studies, the teacher was talking about the protests that were going on in South Philadelphia about the construction of the Whitman Housing Project. She was using that as an example of how the whites were being racists. I asked her then why don't they build the homes in Chestnut Hill, a wealthy Philadelphia neighborhood. She sent me to the headmaster for causing a disturbance.

Californian said...

A couple more points about Botswsna:

* The population is largely homogenous. This is unlike most post-colonial African countries which have demographics composing several different ethnicities/tribes. Since the vast majority of Botswanans identify with each other, there is more social trust. Elections are possible because voting is not simply about putting your Big Man into power. Compare this to much of Africa where different tribes contend for resources and control of the government, leading to endemic civil wars or one-party states.

i.e., Botswana demonstrates (once again) that to have a reasonably functional country, one can not have multi-culturalism.

* There is some considerations that the small percent of whites keep a lid on things via control of the diamond industry. And most Botswanans (at least the elite) have the brains to understand that as long as they go along with the game, they'll get their share of the goodies.

i.e., where YT holds the power over black, he can maintain a level of civilization, though usually at the price of living in gated communities and without consideration of what the world will look like for his/her grandchildren. Demographics is going to be destiny, and only colonization by large numbers of whites is going to make white civilization possible in the long term.

Here's a question: if the Botswanans can get their act together, then why can't Detroiters?

TheAntidote said...

@Southron. So sorry to hear the plague is coming to your neighborhood, but you are right; if you love, respect and want to preserve your family---get out as early as possible. If you go to town and see a coal burner with 2 or 3 zebras --get out; if suddenly one day your postman resembles Idi Amin --get out!
I speak from experience because my family has been in flight from negrosis for three generations. My old uncle says, "we keep moving further north from the blight of negrosis. Where will this end? Perhaps we'll all be huddled around the North Pole!"
Now HUD and DOJ have a master plan to settle masses of negroes in middle class towns. If they connect these dots with high speed rail, a vast negro empire will be created.
May God protect you and your family.

Californian said...

GG said...First off, Botswana is one of the least populous nations on earth, with just over 2 million inhabitants. It has an overall murder rate of 14.5 per 100K, putting it on par with Milwaukee, per 2011 data. The capitol city of Gaborone has a murder rate of 16.13/100K, per 2009 data, which is on par with Shitcongo and Memphrica, per 2011 data.

This is a fine piece of irony, since Milwaukee, Chicago and Memphis were once leading exemplars of American civilization and civility. Initially, the statement implies that the Botswanan murder rate is low, since the casual observer might think that Milwaukee is (was) the American heartland. But "those who can see" understand that these cities have been transformed into extensions of Africa.

Another example of the reality of race.

Anonymous said...

Immigration reform is a strategy to destroy the West demographically. This is NOT a conspiracy theory. This is NOT a secret. This is so brazen and open that those of you who don't understand this are willfully keeping your eyes closed.

“Everyone, even all white folks in this country, acknowledge that in a minute, [the] United States of America will be a new majority, will be majority minority, a brand-new thing,” she said.

In 2012, “for the first time ever in history, African-Americans outvoted white Americans. Oooh. That’s the fear of the white man. That could change everything. That’s why [immigration] should matter to us,” she declared.


http://dailycaller.com/2013/09/20/acorns-former-chief-calls-for-more-immigration-to-boost-black-power/

This is the former head of ACORN, a Black woman, saying this.

Anonymous said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDG1FGDPZeU#t=35

NOLA cop does nothing while Blacks fight in the middle of a busy commercial street.

Remember, cops will NOT protect you, especially not if they're Black cops. They will do anything and everything to justify and protect other Blacks.

josh said...

We stood in line one perfect summer morning,us kids at the CYO.(Catholic Youff Org.)My mom made me wear a sportcoat the first day! WTF? We had several weeks of arts and crafts and other assorted bullshit,but mainly...swimming. In that beautful pool at Cornell Park.Yep I spent a fair amount of time there when it be all white. Its changed... when oh when will we start talking about blacks in a race realistic fashion. That vicious viper Rahm--whose kids will never have a negro classmate-rushes back home from raising money in DC. he got to comfort dem chilluns!! oh lawd dis gotta stop!

Bogolyubski said...

GG's comment about the DWL capacity for excuses got me to thinking. A few years back when Auster was alive he cam up with this category called Non-Islam Theories of Islamic Extremism. Reading through the list one can soon recognize the familiar pattern on dishonesty on the part of the left with respect to Musloid behavior: legacy of colonialism, poverty, Y.T. Rayciss, etc., etc., etc.

We need to start a similar list here, like "Non-negroid theories of groid dysfunction". Of course, once you think about what the DWL, nomenklatura, Ministry of Truth, et al are actually saying about the issue, the 'list' all boils down to a single item: It's all YT's fault.

Stuff Black People Don't Like said...

Bobo,

We live under the shadow of the Kerner Commission/Report.

"white racism" will always be to blame.

http://www.nytimes.com/1988/02/29/us/20-years-after-the-kerner-report-three-societies-all-separate.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm

Our only mission is to survive the collapse of this system, which became explicitly anti-white in 1968 with the publication of the Kerner Report.

Bogolyubski said...

Anonymous (noting the latest scam in the pube-lick edumacation racket):

The Common Core standards are about to rape education in this country (even more). The theory is basically: Black kids are idiots who can't learn, so lets dumb down the curriculum, and force it on EVERY school in America.

Two full decades ago, James Dobson urged Christian parents to remove their children from the government school system. How many did so? Some, but not nearly enough. What is a repeated admonition from several of us here, along with "turn off the TV"? GET YOUR KIDS OUT OF THE GOVT. SCHOOLS. Simply put, there's really no excuse. You've been warned, and warned, and warned again. Vox Day likes to use the phrase Homeschool or Die. It's the same as with the endless games of niggaball, movies, etc.

Public schools are under the enemy's complete control, and have been for at least two decades (4 to 5 decades in many, many locales). Lying Repukes like to talk about "local control" but it's all window-dressing. They don't even bother to make phony promises to abolish the Dept. of Edumacation any more. In case you've been asleep like Rip Van Winkle, there is basically no local control over what is taught - or over who does the teaching. While the Ministry of Truth has been talking up the pedophilia of Catholic priests, they've been covering up an even greater sex abuse scandal in the government schools.

Anonymous said...

90210

APPLEBEES INCIDENT [link here in posts]

Lillian Maliti, Eli Gau and their children after being asked to leave Applebee's.

I wonder what country those 2 groids were born in?
maliti? gau???

Not born to citizen parents, I guess.

Anonymous said...

90210

bingo...bringing in more blacks..he has foreign accent

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzS3XftWz4I

eli gau

Anonymous said...

"Or do you think a so-called black family worries about their property values when they see that same WHITE family pull up in that U-Haul?"

There you go again, Nordic, thinking like a white man.

In my gentrifying neighborhood, the answer is yes!

Blacks here actually worry about the property values going UP. They actively fight against gentrification. The slimelords worry too, b/c they can't operate a nuisance Section-8 rental as easily.

The blacks here don't want their property values to rise b/c the taxes are so low in the ghetto. They own their homes outright, since prices were so low when the whites were cleansed out in the 1960s integration days. I get a lot of pushback from the locals.

My taxes are $1,200 per year right now. When whites move in, values go up and property taxes rise.

Plus, when the whites move in, blacks feel pressured to cut their shovel snow and grass every week or someone calls the health dept.

What a pain!!

Californian said...

GG said...On topic – the depths of the DWL’s capacity to create alternate theories and realities is the subject that’s truly worth of university study.

Try reading "Suicide of the West" by James Burnham. Burnham dissects modern liberalism, especially its ideological self-delusions.

Anonymous said...

The Chicago Police Supt., Garry McCarthy, wailed that "illegal guns drive violence."

Why don't they just outlaw illegal guns?

Anonymous said...

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/teens-charged-killing-hoboken-man-violent-game-knockout-authorities-article-1.1463380

Anonymous said...

@September 20, 2013 at 9:49 PM

If you want to stay in Florida try Jupiter (1% black) and it's not all very wealthy like Jupiter Is.

Seattle is only about 10% black and Seattle Hills is even less so.

Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine are all white and even most of Mass, Conn. and NY are out of the big cities.

I'd get out of Orlando.

Anonymous said...

No violence here

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=octoberfest&id=B7974E650F6B2DEEA5B07208F575B4E8D77D7DDC&FORM=IQFRBA

Anonymous said...

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/brooklyn/heartless-thug-mugs-woman-71-brooklyn-steal-purse-puts-hospital-article-1.1463323

AnalogMan said...

Bogolyubski said...

Public schools are under the enemy's complete control, and have been for at least two decades (4 to 5 decades in many, many locales). Lying Repukes like to talk about "local control" but it's all window-dressing. They don't even bother to make phony promises to abolish the Dept. of Edumacation any more. In case you've been asleep like Rip Van Winkle, there is basically no local control over what is taught

I apologise if this has been posted here before, but this vodeo may be instructive for any who still believe that they have any say in the matter:

Parent Arrested from Common Core Meeting for speaking out of turn

The tepid response from the audience is a matter of concern. They should all have walked out. Cattle, and content to be cattle, even when their noses are rubbed in it.

It's Time said...

In the conversations of "control": has anyone ever paid attention to how many preachers, reverends, etc. are married to school teachers?

Do your research. You would be amazed. It's insanity. Around here "back to school" drives are always going on where DWL's and any other unsuspecting sucker is asked to provide the school supplies for the "underprivileged" school children in our area.

So teachers unions and the like are backed by and supported by Christian churches.

Melanie said...

Lily White said...

"They need to stop, they need to stop,..."



Yes, they do. However, the denizens of the 'hood, while claiming to want the shootings to stop, are the first to howl when anything is done to stop them. If the police try to arrest anyone, the residents switch from wanting the shootings to stop to screaming that the po-po be there in they neighborhood 'cause they be racist.



You in the 'hood can say, "They need to stop" all you want, but until you want black thugs to stop shooting you and your "babies" worse than you want to knee-jerk defend those self-same thugs from any repercussions, simply because they have the same skin color as you, the chances of them stopping are pretty slim.



September 21, 2013 at 6:18 AM




Exactly. Chimpcago PSD enacted something called "Safe Passage" which was supposed to be volunteers-parents (ie baby mama or gramma) walking their kids to school to ensure safe passage, and apparently to beg to the gangstas who run their neighborhoods to hold their fire at least long enough for the little nogs to get to their gubmint-paid babysitter. They couldn't get enough volunteers from amongst the "parents", so PO were detailed to work "Safe Passage". One woman (sitting on her front porch while someone else walked her sprogs to the gubmint babysitter) said "All dese po-leece gone make our keeds scared to go to school". She didn't say anything about the gangstas (her sons, brothers, cousins, uncles, etc) who made such a silly idea necessary in the first place.



Oh, and the first day of school, Rahm Himself walked some little nogs through the "Safe Passage" (accompanied by armed PO, helicopter overhead, his own security detail, etc). Later, that very "Safe Passage" area had gang shootings in it. Oh, and some of the Safe Passage volunteers turned out to be registered sex offenders.



The "Safe Passage" program is expected to end as soon as the schools get their federal money which is distributed on the basis of student body count.