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It even has a huge blue horse statue outside the airport that killed its sculptor!
More importantly, it has a Black population that has been engaging in Mahogany Mob activity since Mein Obama was inaugurated in 2009. At roughly 10 percent of the Denver population, "The Blacks" have turned the Mile-High City into perhaps (outside of Knockout King in St. Louis and Black attacks in Philadelphia) ground-zero for racial violence in America.
To borrow the coolest power in the universe that Zack Morris had in Saved By the Bell, let me quickly call a "Time Out." Pointing out that Black people are attacking white people in Denver, and calling it racial violence, is a valid usage of that term. Just because we have been conditioned to believe that the only acceptable usage of the term "racism" is used to describe the actions of whites against any non-white racial group, doesn't discount the obvious racism on display in Denver. "Time In"
It all started in 2009. Here's the Denver Post on the start of the violence:
The Denver Police Department arrested 32 men and juvenile boys after a months-long undercover investigation into what police said were racially motivated assaults and robberies in downtown Denver, including the LoDo entertainment district.
A task force composed of Denver police, the FBI and the Denver district attorney's office investigated 26 incidents in which groups of black males verbally harassed, assaulted and at times robbed white or Latino males, according to Denver Police Chief Gerry Whitman.
All of the suspects are young black males, most of whom told police they were associated with either the Rollin' 60s Crips gang or the Black Gangster Disciples gang.
Here's Denver's ABC affiliate on the same problem from a story in 2009:
Black gangs roaming downtown Denver often vented their hatred for white victims before assaulting and robbing them during a four-month crime wave, according to interviews and court records obtained by 7NEWS.
"I hate you f---ing white people," said a black woman in a large group of black men, according to the victim who was beaten up as he and three buddies left a LoDo bar after midnight on Aug. 30. "F---- you, white boys," the woman added, according to the 25-year-old Westminster victim, who spoke to 7NEWS Friday.
"Why do you hate white people?" the man recalled asking. "That's when I got hit. They beat the crap out of me," he added, saying that 15 to 20 men beat him to the ground. "They just swarmed you," said the man who curled up on the ground to shield his face. "You basically just had to protect yourself and hope they didn't kill you."
Black people, according to Denver's NBC affiliate in a 2010 story, singled out and continued the attacks on white people. This is the same town where city employees are forced to watch diversity videos that hammer white guys verbally in the same manner that Black people hammer white people on the streets.
Lawrence Auster pointed out that that same NBC affiliate ran an article earlier in 2011 that described Black people using baseball bats to attack whites in Denver.
Now, Matt Drudge of the most powerful and influential news aggregate around - The Drudge Report - has posted a story that describes Black people and Hispanics attacking whites in Denver:
Police are asking for the public’s help tracking down a large group of violent teenagers.Mahogany Mobs are now being aided by members of Mocha Mobs in attacking white people. And most white people in Denver just keep consuming the medicinal marijuana...
They say 10 to 15 young people — described as black or Hispanic and both male and female — attacked four white men on the 16th Street Mall at about 10:45 p.m. on Sunday.
Denver police say the men were standing on the mall near Arapahoe when they were approached by the group. After a conversation, the group turned violent and they attacked the men.
Denver is a progressive city. Where the progressive agenda of Disingenuous White Liberals (DWLs) behind Black-Run America (BRA) is headed for all of America, is on display in Denver.
We move closer and closer to the moment where "The Blacks" attack the wrong white person. It could be Denver. It could be St. Louis. It could be Milwaukee. Perhaps Atlanta or Chicago. Maybe Philadelphia. But this white person will have a concealed license and they will fight back.
It is this moment when the real conversation on race that Attorney General Eric "My People" Holder claims needs to transpire will occur; when a white person dares use force to put down a Mahogany Mob attack. That white person will become a hero to millions, while being vilified by a dying Mainstream Media (MSM).
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I don't have anyone. It is obvious tht these persons have committed hate crimes, so they should be charged with such, and put them in prison for such. That being said, the rest of the Black population shouldn't be looked upon in the same light as those thugs who did what they did. I'm Black, I don't go out in the streets attacking anyone at all. I'm cool with ALL people. This is part of why this is so disturbing. It is also disturbing because Black people have been hated from the moment they came to this nation. They didn't choose to be here. They were brought here as slaves and have been hated since they have been here. I find it sad that these persons will be given the most attention and decent Black individuals will be ignored. I can imagine what some of those White individuals have been through getting attacked because I'm been attacked by Whites. People have thrown rocks at me, shot me with a paintball gun, threatened to "lynch" me. Still, I take every person(White, Black, Hispanic, Asian,etc) as an individual and try to judge the person as an individual. I would hope more people would do the same. What those thugs did was wrong. Hating someone because of their skin color, no matter who it is, is wrong. This is why I find hating on ANYONE disturbing.
mr_evergreen, some of your sentiments are noble. But the dilemma is that white people in America are being targeted not simply by flash mobs and wildings, but also by liberal agitprop which makes them the bad guys in their own country, and by a DoJ which seems indifferent to black on white crime (and not just simply under Holder, either). The combination of anti-white agitprop+anti-white violence+anti-white legal system amounts to a low level of ethnic cleansing against white people. Don't believe it? How long will whites patronize the streets and businesses of Denver if they risk physical attack? Or will it come down to white people resorting to vigilantism and a new race war?
I have a little experience in South Africa, and see the same thing developing in that country on a much bigger scale: farm attacks, BEE, the ANC singing "kill the Boer, kill the farmer." And we can look at the urban uprisings in London and some continental European cities. It is not unreasonable for many whites to see themselves as being under siege globally. And we can blame in no small part the DWL agitprop machine for creating this.
Still, I take every person(White, Black, Hispanic, Asian,etc) as an individual and try to judge the person as an individual.
Alas, the government, the universities, the corporations, the race hustlers, do not see things this way. They treat whites as collectively "guilty" for every manner of past transgression by long dead whites, with retribution being extracted by everything from affirmative action to flash mobs.
Have you ever noticed blacks in their mug shots? They look as if they are taking photos for a family album. It's as if they are wondering how do I look? Is this alright?
Sheessh! These people don't have a clue.
@Mr. Evergreen
I do not find entertaining your very thinly disguised 'poor black man' routine.
So what if they were slaves, so what if they were mistreated in the past, this does NOT give them the freedom to behave in an unlawful manner towards anybody, out of some false sense of entitlement or retribution.
The problem is we are now faced with a nearly entire generation of younger blacks who were raised in broken homes, live on the government tit, have no respect for anything or anyone, their own lives included, and who are daily pushing the boundaries with their behaviors. It is a powder keg waiting to be ignited and it is going to happen.
I am White and personally hate no one who is law abiding, upstanding, upwardly mobile and trying to make something of their lives, whatever color they happen to be. But..and here comes the but..a majority of blacks behave in just the opposite manner and that is a huge problem coming to a head.
Paul is right, the tipping point is near and it is going to be ugly I fear. Stay tuned.
"I do not find entertaining your very thinly disguised 'poor black man' routine".
I wasn't trying to entertain you. I was telling you what I know. My point was this. If people don't want Blacks in this nation, then blame the persons who sold Africans into slavery, blame the persons who were slave traders, blame the persons who were slave owners.
I'm Black and I didn't come from a broken home. My mother and father have been together for almost 3 decades. My father has a masters degree in engineering and he works designing airplanes. I'm currently a senior in college and will be getting a BA in Geography. I'm just trying to live my life the best way I know how. I was never raised in the inner city. I have never lived there. My father would never have raised me there, as he used to live there himself and didn't want that for his children. I'm not the one out there attacking people. My family has nothing to do with those criminal activities either. In fact, if I did any of that, my father would let me rot in prison.
By the way, I don't know many Black people who act like criminals,so I have no proof that the majority of Blacks behave this way. The Black people I'm around do not act like criminals.
Another question: If this tipping point is near, what do I do?
Californian, I'm not taking part in the criminal activities. In fact, I would be one of the first persons to condemn it. After reading your statement, and if it really is true, here is a question I have: What is going to happen to me? What am I going to do in the future? I'm not wealthy, but I feel I have it better in 2011 than I would have it in 1911.
Paul, I've been keenly following these "flashmobs" for a while now.
They seem to have one common traits, they're all comprised of BLACKS.
While Hispanics certainly aren't saints, I sincerely doubt there was a "Mocha Mob."
My brother, a former cop in Miami-Dade County, came to the conclusion that they just threw in another group of undesirables.
I think the article just threw them in so they would not collectively lay the blame on blacks, so they threw in another group of misanthropes.
Just look at any other "flashmob," anywhere else in the country for proof.
http://angrywhitedude.com/2011/09/awd-dude-of-the-week-temple-university-student-michael-eels/
Philly- Urban youth put a gun on a Temple University student and demanded money, student refused. Youth then shoots him but the student, carrying with a permit, fires back, wounding the youth shooter.
Video #3 is fascinating - watch it, study it and learn. Niggers literally do not have a conscience. It just isn't there. Only when they fear PUNISHMENT do they admit guilt or attempt to show what we humans call remorse.
(Sigh) ..... How much longer do we have to live side-by-side with these dangerous monsters?
The fact that I have to read someone (mr_evergreen) repeat to me that black were at one time slaves is part of the problem.
Yes, we know that at one time blacks were brought over as slaves. For God's sake does anyone with any sense think that still carries weight in todays world. No wonder blacks are completely incapable of moving forward.
Glad to hear that you find anyone "hating" on anyone is disturbing. Your words are weak and weightless. Your words mean nothing to whites that have to deal with the violent, criminal behavior of blacks that attack whites with impunity.
Your words are those of apologists and myopic hand-holders. What is happening in Denver is reality and it's a clear picture of what is going on. Take your words of peace and love and anti "hating" and go preach to your fellow blacks.
okay, the 1st vid at 1:40.
I'm White and I am embarrassed by that effing pig!
Just saw the latest Hamburger Helper commercial, with the mythical two-parent middle class black family.
"It is also disturbing because Black people have been hated from the moment they came to this nation."
Complete, childish bullshit. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Blacks were brought here as labor. The cost of purchasing slaves was a huge expense, and slave-owners had a vested interest in maintaining the health and well-being of their workers. Slave-owners did not "hate" their slaves, they fed them and cared for them.
In other words, you are full of shit.
Even now, blacks are not "hated". However, as it becomes increasingly clear that blacks are not capable of living in a civilized manner, whites want nothing more than to stay as far from blacks as possible.
Blacks have no one but themselves to blame for how they are perceived. If you behave like animals, you shouldn't be surprised when others want nothing to do with you.
"I find it sad that these persons will be given the most attention and decent Black individuals will be ignored."
Are you fucking kidding me??
OF COURSE these black thugs will be given the most attention, they are a CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER to the lives of white people.
I find it sad that you think "decent black individuals" deserve attention for doing nothing other than obeying the law.
Blacks need to get their $hi! together and stop the this, Oh, woe is me routine.
Listen up, blacks aren't the only race that's been enslaved and blacks aren't the only race that's had it tough, so just stop with the pity party already.
Like Californian said, this is an ethnic cleansing and a genocide agaisnt whites in our own damned country. We are the targets and I'm just thankful that we still have our 2nd amendment rights to posses weapons, because when the SHTF, at least we'll having some fighting chance.
I'm sorry 'Mr. Evergreen', but I'm through feeling sorry for you people. Pull yourself up by the bootstraps and get your ass in gear man. Clean your own rotten communities up and QUIT blaming ME for all your damned problems.
I've never owned a slave and don't want one. As a matter of fact, I'd like to take those bastards that brought you people over here and burn their carcasses in effigy. What a curse this has been on an otherwise productive society.
White mans burden my ASS!
X-zaply wrote:
Why do we have to wait for the 2012 election results for the real domestic war to begin?
Can you imagine what will happen if Obama loses?
Sorta make me think about voting for him again... for my family's safety
Mr. Evergreen, I agree with much that you said. I also try to judge people by the content of their character, not the color of their skin. However, I relate it thusly. I you are around 100 horses and 90 of them have kicked you, it would be a fair assumption that you should stay the fuck away from horses. When 93 of the 100 Blacks that I have been around try to hustle me, rob me, commit violence on me, verbally berate me for being white, try to sell me crack, or try to fuck my wife, the assumption that I should stay the fuck away from blacks becomes racist hatred rather than a logical assumption.
The other point I would try to make. I come from Irish heritage. When we emmigrated to this country, they treated us just as badly if not worse than blacks..Christ, they gave us the jobs that were too dangerous for blacks, because they didn't want to waste their slaves. That being said, you don't see roving bands of Micks assaulting those who were "responsible" for the harsh treatment we received in the 1800's. The Irish people (for the most part) worked their asses off for centuries to assimilate into America.
So what if they were slaves, so what if they were mistreated in the past,
You do know that the 2011 Dollar cost of a slave in 1850 was $40 000 versus $900 for a slave in Africa today.
Who do you think would be treated better?
then blame the persons who sold Africans into slavery, blame the persons who were slave traders, blame the persons who were slave owners.
Do you know that Africans were big players in the slave trade and slave owners in the US itself?
mr_evergreen said: I don't have anyone. It is obvious tht these persons have committed hate crimes, so they should be charged with such, and put them in prison for such.
I disagree, because I believe the very concept of a “hate crime” is fraudulent and Orwellian. Criminals should be charged with the real crimes they committed, not the imaginary Thoughtcrime of having unsavory personal motivations. The very idea of “hate crimes” should be repulsive to rational Americans, but it’s probably impossible to put that genie back in its 40 ounce bottle.
And while we are on the subject of “hate crimes”, I recall reading somewhere that the majority of people serving time for “hate crimes” are actually black. You gotta love unintended consequences.
mr_evergreen said: That being said, the rest of the Black population shouldn't be looked upon in the same light as those thugs who did what they did. I'm Black, I don't go out in the streets attacking anyone at all. I'm cool with ALL people. This is part of why this is so disturbing.
Well, unlike you, most non-black people do not have a crystal ball or ESP. They also do not have the time to interview each and every black person in America to find out if they are “cool” with us. I won’t confuse you with any math, but let’s put it this way: If population group X happens to have a well documented disproportionate propensity for criminality and violence, it is not unreasonable to proceed with caution when dealing with population group X. That does not make one “racist”, it makes one intelligent. Ignoring overwhelming evidence in order to maintain a holier-than-thou mantle of moral superiority is just idiotic, even if it is currently fashionable among the liberal set, although in your case you are also sticking up for your own, for better or for worse.
mr_evergreen said: It is also disturbing because Black people have been hated from the moment they came to this nation. They didn't choose to be here. They were brought here as slaves and have been hated since they have been here.
Your fallacious statement is unlikely to gain much traction here. It is a non-sequiter and an appeal to emotion. It is precisely the sort of lame excuse that many people are sick and tired of. I think it is pretty safe to say that you were never a slave. I also think it is pretty safe to say that you live a comparatively comfortable, even luxurious, lifestyle. How much longer will it be before the fallacious “slavery” excuse finally wears out? 100 years? 200? A thousand? If blacks are so oppressed by being here against their will, then I hope they choose to escape this horribly racist, white dominated hellhole and purchase a one-way ticket to a freedom-loving African paradise such as Liberia. Hopefully, they can apply for refugee status and never have to return to the evil, oppressive United States of America.
mr_evergreen said: I find it sad that these persons will be given the most attention and decent Black individuals will be ignored.
It is sad, although it has never stopped black people from screaming about incidents of white racism at every turn and insisting on collective white guilt for every crime, whether real or imagined (or fabricated).
mr_evergreen said: I can imagine what some of those White individuals have been through getting attacked because I'm been attacked by Whites. People have thrown rocks at me, shot me with a paintball gun, threatened to "lynch" me.
Did they rape you and cover you with feces and racial slurs, too? LOL This is another lame excuse that we are sick and tired of hearing: “B-b-but white people do it too!” What is so frustrating about this whole issue is that you don’t even understand why your anecdotes, even if true, are completely meaningless in the larger scheme, nor is it likely that you would acknowledge this even if you did understand.
mr_evergreen said: Still, I take every person (White, Black, Hispanic, Asian,etc) as an individual and try to judge the person as an individual. I would hope more people would do the same.
My, aren’t you so special and morally superior! And disingenuous to boot. While you are wasting your time, stumbling around in the dark, judging each and every person on planet Earth, the rest of us have stuff to do. I realize that, as a liberal, you are not allowed to commit the Thoughtcrime of [cue scary music] profiling (well, unless it suits your purposes), but those of us in the real world understand that profiling is a valid concept, and that just because something is stereotypical, does not mean it is incorrect.
mr_evergreen said: What those thugs did was wrong. Hating someone because of their skin color, no matter who it is, is wrong. This is why I find hating on ANYONE disturbing.
While you are busy being disturbed and sanctimonious, the rest of us would like to go about our lives without being accosted and attacked by hordes of your predatory black brethren, all their assorted enablers and the associated political/legal apparatus. And we would also like to be free to make our own judgments about people without being browbeaten and persecuted by insufferable, ignorant, deceitful, pompous, hypocritical dolts like you.
mr_evergreen said: By the way, I don't know many Black people who act like criminals,so I have no proof that the majority of Blacks behave this way. The Black people I'm around do not act like criminals.
To you, the only acceptable proof is that which you yourself have directly experienced? Is this what they teach in college nowadays? By the way, what is your major?
Providing you with proof would most likely be an exercise in futility, since you would simply ignore it and/or move the goalposts around. You remind me of those liberal buffoons who stood around blinking in astonishment when George Bush was elected, stammering, “That’s impossible! Nobody I know voted for him!
"My point was this. If people don't want Blacks "Evergreen" in this nation, then blame the persons who sold Africans into slavery, blame the persons who were slave traders, blame the persons who were slave owners. "
Whites Do blame the slave holders for not returning negros back to their homelands. It is a cruel and unpleasant fate for you to be ripped away from the land of your forefathers. We recommend Liberia, a land where Whites cannot even be a citizen, but a negro like yourself can can become one merely by arriving! Further, you can put your talented 10% brain and education to work making your new Country a happier place. This is your chance! Good Luck, no need to write.
"I come from Irish heritage. When we emmigrated to this country, they treated us just as badly if not worse than blacks..Christ, they gave us the jobs that were too dangerous for blacks, because they didn't want to waste their slaves."
I'm another Harp, and every word you entered is true. I can't help wondering if the Union's Irish Brigade would have advanced on Marye's Heights at Fredericksburg (13 Dec 1862) so stoically if they had been granted a preview of BRA.
Mr Evergreen. What to do when we reach the tipping point? Sounds like you are not part of the stereotypical black crowd and I'm sure there are others too. But that will make you a target as well. You will only be able to cover up so long. I suggest at the tipping point, walk to the nearest white suburban barricade with your hands up, explain your position and with any luck they may hand you an SKS and a bandoleer of ammo.
"If you are around 100 horses and 90 of them have kicked you, it would be a fair assumption that you should stay the fuck away from horses."
Better yet...
If you are in a cage with 100 rattlesnakes, and NONE of them have ever bit you, would you feel safe picking them up and playing with them?
Please delete any post with "I am black" in it. We know what they think and we are not interested in discussing the matter with them. Every argument is just some appeal to whitey not to rush to judgment or some other nonsense.
..and just imagine the violence from Mahoganey Mobs when EBT cards stop working due to an insolvent US government. It's going to be bad people...really bad.
"Can you imagine what will happen if Obama loses?"
Anything is possible, but with black unemployment at record levels and Obama's approval rating sinking like a boulder, black voters are likely to stay home and watch re-runs of Tyler Perry movies.
"...Further, you can put your talented 10% brain and education to work making your new Country a happier place. This is your chance! Good Luck, no need to write."
Lol. Except I sure as hell want him to write. And beg to come back.
A little help for our new pal "Evergreen" No matter what your particular experiences are; no matter how fine a citizen you may be (BTW, nowhere in his masturbatory little monologue did he mention how much he loves America...); no matter how law abiding you may be (he does imply that he knows some blacks who "act like criminals" - aside: I know NO Whites who act like criminals); no matter what, NO ONE HERE CARES, WANTS TO HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH YOU, OR WANTS TO LIVE ANYWHERE NEAR YOU.
Joe
mr_evergreen said: Hating someone because of their skin color, no matter who it is, is wrong.
Just to backtrack for a moment; this is why you will never be able to understand the deeper issues, you are stuck on this “color” thing. Perhaps this is on purpose, as a ruse. Perhaps out of genuine ignorance and/or lack of actual brainpower. Whatever the motivation, it needs to be addressed and understood.
Liberals often attempt to redirect the conversation to be about skin color, which is a straw man/red herring. They claim to be utterly perplexed and dismayed by the irrational hate over skin color, when in fact that has nothing to do with the issue at all. It’s a fallacy and many of them know it.
Now, some of them may actually be so stupid as to really believe that all the controversy stems from skin color. They have had that idea hammered into their soft skulls through years of liberal indoctrination. In that case, their confusion is completely understandable. Actually, that would explain a lot, because they are confused by a whole lot of other things also.
But there are a significant number that deliberately attempt to push the discussion in this direction because they want to derail the whole conversation.
Consider that we Irish were conquered and virtually enslaved and dispossessed in our own land for over 800 years. War was waged on our language and religion. Famine was inflicted upon us. Stories of the plight of Ireland are acutely heartbreaking. When Fredrick Douglass learned of Ireland he said he was ashamed to raise his voice in benefit of his own people.
When the Irish came to America most were broken people. They were wild and crime-ridden. The term Paddy Wagon refers to the Paddy's who need rounding up every night. What made the difference in the Irish in America? Self-policing and an attitude of group improvement made the difference. The same attitude that is spectacularly missing from modern blacks. The ability of decent black folk to influence their community is on the wane. As long as Mike Vick and OJ and Sharpton (the race-baiting anti-Semitic riotous murderer) are heroes and the entire civil rights hustle continues on it’s current trajectory we will have nothing but a date with tragedy.
I do not allow myself to become enraged over the British Empire and what they did to Ireland and the rest of the world. Vengeance thinking is weak thinking. Hell, I wish the English would grow their balls back and clean up their society instead of slipping down into the hell their Cambridge and Oxford educated elites are leading them to. Furthermore, if I were to become the next president of the US the first thing I’d do is ask the Brits if we could have back that Bust of Winston Churchill that the Trojan Horse Obama sent back to them. I’d issue an official apology for his coarse and petty behavior. I might even give the Queen and classier gift then a set of DVDs.
Leftism is a philosophy of vengeance, plain and simple.
Artist
"Another question: If this tipping point is near, what do I do?"
Mr Evergreen, if everything you say is true, I highly encourage you to follow in the footsteps of Allen West, Thomas Sowell, and Allen Keyes, and DISTANCE yourself from what has become known as TNB "typical negro behavior". Blacks will then turn on you, and hate you for "acting white".
I do not "hate" blacks, but I absolutely detest "typical negro behavior" (yes, even when whites behave this way). More importantly...and please read this next part carefully...I absolutely DESPISE decent blacks (like yourself) who fucking refuse to criticize negro behavior, and instead excuse it with bullshit like "Black people have been hated from the moment they came to this nation".
I don't blame you for not wanting to be perceived as a "typical negro". The responsibility is yours alone to make sure that you're not.
First things first. Two words: Concealed Carry.
A few well-ventilated flash mobbers will do wonders for these statistics.
SBPDL: Pointing out that Black people are attacking white people in Denver, and calling it racial violence, is a valid usage of that term.
It's not "racial violence", it's genocide. Just watch videos of Farrakhan and his Kill YT pals. Californian "gets" it:
The combination of anti-white agitprop+anti-white violence+anti-white legal system amounts to a low level of ethnic cleansing against white people. [emphasis added]
If anyone needs an example of a city ethnically cleansed by Blacks, look no further than Detroit. The fact that this urban hellhole also has America's densest Muslim population is no coincidence either. Urban Blacks and Muslims have very similar mindsets.
Anonymous (September 17, 2011 9:07 PM) So what if they were slaves, so what if they were mistreated in the past, this does NOT give them the freedom to behave in an unlawful manner towards anybody, out of some false sense of entitlement or retribution.
That's the bottom line. This "sins of our forefathers" horseradish has worn thinner than pond ice in summer.
mr_evergreen: If this tipping point is near, what do I do?
That's an honest question and one that deserves some sort of answer. You already seem to be doing the most important thing of all; namely, leadership by example. I am also obliged to commend you for commenting here at SBPDL and hope you will continue to. This site desperately needs more intelligent Black voices.
To answer your question; do what Bill Cosby did when he gave his famous "Pound Cake" speech at an event to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Brown v. Board of Education Supreme Court decision.
I know it's a tall order but Black America has astonishing few role models. Retired Lieutenant Colonel Allen West, now a Senator from Florida is one of a very few, Steve Sailer is another. Although I am a devout Agnostic, Senator West's message of reviving America's moral values and crushing Islamic terrorism is soul stirring. Listen to his "A Man Must Stand for Something or He Will Fall For Anything!" speech and realize that ― if color has anything to do with it (which it clearly does not) ― the wrong man of color is sitting in the White House. I would vote in Senator Allen West as President without hesitation.
Another fabulous individual is the Hon. James David Manning of Athla World Missionary Church. His "Call Me Uncle Tom Ruckus, Please Sir" speech is required listening for anyone who wonders why American Blacks have such a piss poor reputation.
mr_evergreen, one thing I recommend is that you drop the entire slavery grievance issue, permanently. There is no better way to anger people than by summoning up a well and truly dead issue that no living person is responsible for. As you can see from the replies, mentioning slavery simply evokes the entire “entitlement” mentality that justifiable enrages most ordinary White Americans and continues to poison black minds to this very day.
I guess I'm a softie but I feel for Evergreen. He's trying. He seems decent. He's now getting his eyes opened some. Many of you have been hard on him. But I have to cheer all of you pointing out how massive the anti-white apparatus is. Perhaps he'll learn something. But then I think of all the "race circles" the DWLs sponsor. What would it be like for a "seeing" white to attend one? Only a completely defeated brainwashed white could accept what goes on there. Just like freshman orientation the University of Delaware, where all white males are forced to accept the collective guilt. And the white girls get to pile on. After all, the spoils of the anti-white war are great.
I always wonder, did my father and his brothers put down their plowshares in 1942 to fight the Third Reich, to fight for a country that now enforces race-based quotas and we all have race identity embedded in our NWO electronic IDs?
I doubt that this was a mixed group of Blacks and Hispanics. Many light skinned Blacks can look Hispanic at first glance, so it's likely that the victims just said that their attackers were Black with some possibly Hispanic. Cops usually prod on details until you to make a concession that you weren't entirely sure of the race of the perp if there was any ambiguity at all.
Anonymous (September 18, 2011 4:34 AM): I find it sad that you think "decent black individuals" deserve attention for doing nothing other than obeying the law.
The only way that "decent black individuals" are going to deserve any attention is when they rise up and begin demanding accountability and responsibility from the gigantic Black criminal manufactory known as urban Black America.
Much like the thundering silence of so-called "moderate Muslims when it comes to terrorist atrocities, Black Americans are still at a "whisper level" when it comes to addressing the criminality of Black youth.
"...that a curse this (slavery) has been on an otherwise productive society."
I have said this exact thing to white liberals in conversation, and just like blacks, they don't really want a solution, they just want to bitch and then hold their hands out for reparations and showers of money. Imagine a country without ghetto blacks! Things are so bad now, I can't even imagine what that might be like.
"Ms. Evergreen" won't like it when the Republicans take charge of the White House again and blacks get their "shit" cut off. Deep down, she is more afraid of violent ghetto blacks than we are. Blacks have a very strong social hierarchy in their culture, and uppity blacks do NOT like ghetto blacks one bit.
Ms. Evergreen needs to cut the rhetoric and the pity party and get to work. If she is such a great, smart, and law-abiding black citizen, then she needs to GTF out there and help her people find a way to behave themselves.
I always love it when blacks harp on past slavery in America, and yet have NO CLUE or don't care that slavery still exists around the world, even in noble Africa. Blacks have no concept of history, the founding, credit scores, economics, politics, or even what is going on in the world today. Not a clue, not a care. These are white people's concerns. If BET or the WB does not cover it, they will never know about it.
If you care so much about slavery, "Ms. Evergreen", then get busy trying to end it, because your African brothers and sisters are still enslaved. If you care so much about the poor ghetto blacks and their plight, then start giving out ghetto loans so that they can get those businesses started up or go to college on your dime.
Thought not, you hypocrite. Stop lecturing us.
Anonymous (September 18, 2011 7:49 AM): Do you know that Africans were big players in the slave trade and slave owners in the US itself?
People really need to keep in mind that a huge percentage of African Black slaves were sold by Muslim slave traders. It's in the qur'an that owning slaves is just fine and incidents of hired help being treated like slaves by American Muslims are a routine occurrence.
Islam has enslaved more people than Europe and America combined.
Would anyone care to guess which nation on earth was one of the last to outlaw slavery?
Wait for it ...
Saudi Arabia, in 1962. Just take a look at this timeline:
● 1952 Qatar abolishes slavery
● 1959 Slavery in Tibet is abolished by China after the Dalai Lama flees.
● 1960 Niger abolishes slavery[56]
● 1962 Saudi Arabia abolishes slavery
● 1962 Yemen abolishes slavery
● 1963 United Arab Emirates abolishes slavery
● 1970 Oman abolishes slavery
● 1981 Mauritania abolishes slavery
Notice how almost all of the last practitioners of slavery are Islamic countries?
If anybody wants to piss and moan about slavery, they had damn well better start with Islam.
Just saw the latest New York Life commercial featuring the mythical two-parent black family and their college-graduate son.
Ain't it great.
Tsukuri: I disagree, because I believe the very concept of a “hate crime” is fraudulent and Orwellian. Criminals should be charged with the real crimes they committed, not the imaginary Thoughtcrime of having unsavory personal motivations. The very idea of “hate crimes” should be repulsive to rational Americans, but it’s probably impossible to put that genie back in its 40 ounce bottle.
Incredibly well put. If law enforcement had just done their job and not turned a blind eye to Jim Crow mentality and beatdowns of homosexuals, we wouldn't have these insane "hate speech" and "hate crime" laws that butcher our Constitution for the sake of protecting some Olympic class snivelers.
mr_evergreen said: Still, I take every person… as an individual and try to judge the person as an individual. I would hope more people would do the same.
And another thing…
It’s funny how blacks, feminists, et al are all about judging people on their individual merits, until it comes time to take an entrance exam or any other situation where merit is actually measured and judged. Then suddenly, individual merit melts away in favor of associating with an “oppressed” identity group. Merit becomes unimportant compared to inclusiveness and diversity (a curious exception to this is athletics). In their language, this is called “fairness”. LOL
You know what? I hate niggers. Ask me why and I'll shoot you in the fucking head.
Mr Evergreen is an example of why I am so fascinated about black people and the logic they use AND the fact that they think that people are going to have a change of heart when they post on a blog such as this.
To me, this is Mr. Evergreens way of "Handling the white man." They think that we are so gullible that we will believe whatever they say. The problem for them is that black peoples actions speak louder than Mr. Evergreens words.
Mr Evergreen, you seem to be more concerned about how we view black people than the saftey white people who have been attacked. That in itself is racist and just outright cruel. But we have been accustomed to this as we read just these few stories that have surfaced over the past summer alone.
Canis lupis
If ANYONE attempts to attack me and mine I will kill them. And frankly......most of rural Colorado does NOT care what happens Denver.
All too often these past months, 10mm AUTO keeps getting to the point before I do. Perhaps it's because I chamber a 9mm.
That being said, 10mm is right. Bemoaning being taken from "Mother Africa" (actually, most taken from the Caribbean Islands...few directly from Africa) in the face of the modern hellhole that actually is modern Africa is laughable. Really, black people? You wish you were there? Trust me, plenty of northern white folks would love to pay twice as much in taxes and send you back. We didn't bring you here, but you manage to move into our northern and western cities and mess everything up.
The friggin' Southern plantation - what a waste on so many fronts.
Excuse me - I have my SR9c to go clean.
"Ever notice how you come across somebody once in a while you shouldn't have fucked with? That's me."
Nothing says "not tonite Toby" like 230 grains of jacketed hollow point.
Mr Evergreen, fair enough question you asked, which I answer below. One hopes we can have an actual dialog on race here.
Californian, ... here is a question I have: What is going to happen to me? What am I going to do in the future? I'm not wealthy, but I feel I have it better in 2011 than I would have it in 1911.
"What is going to happen to me?"
Given the way what SBPDL calls "BRA" is going, you will be able to exploit any number of government and corporate programs: affirmative action, grants, diversity requirements, black studies, black business associations, black advocacy groups, the ability to censor the speech (outside of the internet) of white people who dissent on race (see Don Imus, Stephanie Grace), etc., etc.
Heck, you will even see the government and churches importing refugees from Somalia and other African countries who, in the long run, will be a constituency for all of the above.
Bear in mind that there are just about no (zero!) organized mainstream groups which support the rights of white Americans (if I am wrong, then please name them). You have every last opportunity feasible in this country to succeed, and no one to stop you.
On the other hand, it could be argued that all these government-corporate programs are simply keeping you in hock to the system.
Do you ever ask yourself about the state of black America? Despite every liberal social engineering program being implemented over the last half century, despite the government pushing through every last civil rights bill, despite the corporate media presenting a non-stop picture of black success and white villainy, despite the ritual obeisance to MLK, look at:
* rates of black illegitimacy;
* rates of black violent crime and incarceration;
* rates of black school drop outs;
* the implications of all these in lower rates of black college admissions, wealth accumulation, and serious business start-ups.
Were things this bad in 1911?
You need to ask how far white people can be pushed. Will there be a backlash to the flash mobs, the diversity agitprop, the taxes to support the welfare state, the open borders, the DWL pathology of guilt over deeds long gone?
Websites like SBPDL are becoming more popular because white people are tired of the lies, and more importantly, having to lie in order to keep their jobs or even their status as students (google Stephanie Grace Harvard for an example).
Doesn't it bother you that for all the talk about "civil rights," we see blacks demanding the heads of anyone who dares make a statement, even in private, that is politically incorrect? Do you not see the hypocrisy here?
Growing numbers of white people do see the hypocrisy.
Reality check:
It is white people these days whose civil rights are being violated.
And it is white people who are starting to stand up for their civil rights.
Right now, dissent against what is termed BRA is at a low level. But it is growing. More decent, middle of the road white people are being alienated. These people aren't KKK or Nazis, they are people who have just been pushed too far. Sooner or later the situation will reach critical mass.
So why don't you tell us, what do you plan to do to stop the coming tidal wave of backlash? Would you be willing to demand an end to affirmative action? The dissolution of the NAACP? How about giving the white Southerner version of the civil rights movement in the schools? Or opening up US immigration to white South African and Rhodesian refugees who want to escape the crime and dysfunction now prevalent in those countries?
How about standing up for the free speech rights of, say, the designer of this website?
That would be a major step forward.
For all of us.
Overall, Colorado is a shit hole, period. It ranks 49th in the nation in education, 1st in foreclosures, 2nd in meth production, 1st in the nation for "medical" marijuana shops.
Denver citizens just elected a new jiggaboo mayor. Go figure. I could go on.
Take away the mountains and you have nothing.
They didn't choose to be here.
Then they shouldn't complain at being sent back. It's never too late to correct a mistake.
Still, I take every person(White, Black, Hispanic, Asian,etc) as an individual and try to judge the person as an individual.
I think the U.S. is going to balkanize in the near future, and that this will probably be a positive outcome. I have to admit that part of me really wants to see one of the new nations run entirely on libertarian principles, so the world can see just what a hollow, childish philosophy libertarianism is. We can then discard it for good, as we did with communism.
Perhaps as a bonus the anarchists can be given a place of their own as well, preferably right on the Mexican border. Once this country has ceased to exist after 6 months - 1 year, we can discard anarchism as well.
Anonymous (September 18, 2011 2:48 PM): You know what? I hate niggers. Ask me why and I'll shoot you in the fucking head.
Aw, come on now, don't hold back and be so shy.
Tell us how you really feel.
Tsukuri and Californian, I am really enjoying your posts. Thank you for staying on topic and on point without the invective.
I look forward to a response by mr_evergreen regarding your well reasoned posts.
Mr. Kersey,
Could you perhaps add text captions to your videos so people using Flashblock can see if they are of interest before clicking through? Thanks in advance.
Kersey,
Wow. Real horrorshow, my droogie. I've poked into the DIA murals before. Tells quite the bedtime story.
And another thing: Where'd you come up with all these crazy, new, hilarious commentators? I told you, this site's discourse level is on an upswing.
Oh, and a personal aside...BRA whapped me in the face today not five minutes into my sojourn into the world.
I said, "NO."
I often ask: "What would America be like if there were no blacks?"
It makes people think.
"Why do you hate white people?" the man recalled asking.
What a faggot question.
Calling Paul Kersey.
Anon at 9:58AM: "Please delete any post with "I am black" in it. We know what they think and we are not interested in discussing the matter with them."
Who is "we"?
In short, what you want is an echo chamber? I'm not sure about the other folks here, but I sure don't.
- Joseph Doakes
I agree with John's statement about Colorado. Denver is a MSM built fantasy.....similar to Atlanta ("Hotlanta") in the early 90's. About 10 years ago I lived in Denver for 1 year and could get out fast enough. I tried to worn my friends and coworkers about black people (who were just starting to trickle into the area at that time). I told them about the black on white crime stats and how careful white women need to be if black people are around. Instead, I was just branded a racists hater. I am glad Denver is having these problems now.
paul Kersey, please give a look to this article:
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/182209-cbc-chairman-if-obama-wasnt-in-office-we-would-be-marching-on-white-house
The chairman of the Congressional Black Caucus is very upset with the rate of black unemployment and would march on the White House IF OBAMA WASN'T PRESIDENT. Hahahahahahaha
Ret'd LAPD here. Some very wise and well thought out responses to Mr Evergreen. I have met many like him over the years, always baffled as to why there is so much heartburn directed towards blacks. They distance themselves from the thugs but only so far, and still have a deep racial kinship with them.
This blog, along with the videos uploaded to YouTube by dullards documenting their rampage(s), can only help make people aware as to the unpredictable, inexplicable and violent nature that blacks seem to be proud of.
When a black like Mr Evergreen gets a job, goes to school, leads a productive life, it is seen as a Black Success Story and lauded as such by the media and liberals. And, it is thrown in our faces as "See?? Not ALL blacks are criminals!!" Yeah, but way too many are. Our prisons are crammed with violent blacks and many continue to prowl our streets.
Luckily I made it out of LA, where I was born, raised, and worked as a cop for over 20 years. I am now in a nearly black free area where I might encounter one a day, and a single black is always well behaved.
No more Danny Bakewell, Nation of Islam thugs, liberal white defense attorneys and complicit media. Concealed carry is a way of life where I live and there's hardly any crime.
Keep posting everyone, I really enjoy your observations. And JB, it isn't "horrowshow" but pronounced "khurasho"
......The chairman of the Congressional Black Caucus is very upset with the rate of black unemployment and would march on the White House IF OBAMA WASN'T PRESIDENT......
It is veiled marching orders...for niggers to attack any white politicians..anywhere...or any whites...
angry, violent, low impulse control niggers looking for their marching orders....
Glad you're back LAPD, been missing your candor and your insight.
You must be in Montana. Stay there and enjoy your well earned retirement.
@ Californian.
Your questions posted towards "Evergreen" are very pertinent and to the point. This Blog is becoming an excellent repository of well-reasoned dissent against the hell of modern America.
I applaud all of you people that speak your minds, it's a damned shame we have to hide behind aliases to maintain our livelihoods as "free" citizens here in AmeriKa!
First things first. Two words: Concealed Carry.
Agreed, but in the case of a Mahogany Mob one man with a handgun may still be in trouble if the crowd doesn't disperse after hearing the shot. If you're driving into a Negro-held area you should have more firepower (tactical carbine/shotgun) in the back seat.
This site desperately needs more intelligent Black voices.
I disagree completely. Although I don't mind the occasional reminder, we know what "intelligent" blacks think of us. We know what their talking points are. Their allies in the media have taught them a handful of rote responses that they, for the most part, mindlessly regurgitate. Evergreen said nothing that regulars at this site haven't seen/heard hundreds of times before.
And "desperately?" Are you joking? Please don't exaggerate the importance of the "intelligent" Negro.
Glad you're back LAPD, been missing your candor and your insight.
I second that.
To Mr. Evergreen and any other blacks who read this, listen up. Many whites like myself are of either Irish or Slavic descent, and our ancestors no more wanted to be here than yours did. I am of Irish, Scotish, Ukrainian and Russian descent, and I and others like me are tired of your slavery cop out. I even have Cherokee blood, does the "Trail of Tears" ring any bells? That's right, many whites have native American blood too. Whatever your ancestors have been through, it pales in comparison to the genocide, slavery, dispossession, torture, disrcimination, religious persecution, and discrimination at the hands of the Mongols, English, Nazis, Ottoman Turks and WASP's here in America. Your kind is not the only one who was enslaved. That's right, did you think the Irish were welcomed here? Did you think the Ukrainians and Russians were welcomed here? They weren't they were mistreated and abused just as your ancestors were, and yet they overcame that and are now Americans. Why have they left the nation a better place than they found it and your kind has not? They are not running around attacking blacks in flash mobs, stealing, raping and murdering, but your ilk are. Indeed blacks are waging a low-level genocide campaign against whites. Just because a few of you are decent people, does not mean I and other whites do not feel safe around you. If 9 out of 10 dogs bite, would you want to be around dogs at all? I would shoot all of them, on sight. Of course not, and this is the problem blacks created for themselves. For every one who is a decent person, there's from what I can see ten more who are immoral, violent thugs who will never be a productive, civilized member of society.
You blacks have no sense at all, especially when it comes to history. You know nothing of history, and your kind are about to repeat it, with tragic results all around, but it will be blacks who suffer the most because of it.
Your kind think we will keep tolerating this indefinitiely. That is a foolish assumption because many of us already regard your kind as a threat to be eliminated. While I am not a violent man ordinarily, I turn into one when I or my family is threatened, and so are many other whites. Your kind's flash mobs are soon going to mess with the wrong ones among us, and will be dragged off to the morgues with their faces shot off. The anger among us towards your race is growing and soon it going to reach a tipping point, a tipping point that will result in us going after ALL of you. Not all whites are the same, I have been the target of racial violence, my ancestors have been the target of racial violence, and we answer it with violence. You have been warned, we don't care about your pity party, your plight or your lives. They're worthless and the blame for that lies on your race's shoulders, not mine and not the white race's either. We're under seige globally, and we're fed up.
Ret'd LAPD here. Thanks a lot gentlemen, been away on vacation and I'm glad to catch up with you all.
Moar ''Stuff Black People Don't Like'': #XXX Threats to shut down pee-wee feetsbawl. Surprised? Me neither. The reason? Take a guess.
From some of the posts I am seeing, the message I have gotten from some is that my life doesn't mean much. I had to ask what would happen to me if the tipping point is reached because I know what I have now. I have alot to lose. My fear that if the tipping point is reach, some people would call for pre-1965 laws to be put in place. Other implications could mean a race war. These are two things I don't want.
Also, for those who agree with people like Cosby(the Pound Cake speech), I agree with Cosby too. I also concur with Mayor Michael Nutter and his comment "you have embarrassed your race". Unfortunately, the persons who should listen won't listen. The ones who won't listen don't care what anyone thinks. The idea for those thugs is "I'll get mine and forget everyone else". The best I can do, as a college student, is to condemn the actions of those thugs who were attacking people for no reason. I can call them out on their actions. The fact is, the people who need to listen to Bill Cosby and Michael Nutter won't listen. How would the thugs who did what they did listen to me? If I were to get around some of those thugs, I would get made fun of, get called "acting White". I should know because it has happened to me. I've been the Black kid who was made fun of for "acting White", and not just by some of the Black kids. A few White kids have made fun of me too. One White female used to yell "White boy" at me from the bus as some kind of joke. My point is I can only do so much. I do condemn their actions. I do condemn the actions of the persons who committed such criminal acts. I hope the persons who did what they did are caught, tried, and put in prison. My feeling is that mentality has alot to do with it. I was taught right from wrong, so I would not go and hurt other people. My parents kept me in church and I keep myself in church. However, there are parents who are not doing that. Add to that if people do not feel like they are part of society, they will feel no guilt and hurting people in a society. In a word, nihilism. Cornell West even describes it in his book "Race Matters". He brings up nihilism among Black men and the role it places in criminal behavior. I'm not using this as an excuse. I am just saying when people don't care, when people feel that they aren't part of a society, when they think they have nothing to lose, criminal activity will occur. I'm not excusing it because it is wrong and such persons ought to be held personally responsible for their actions.
And I know that many White people are of Irish, Italian, and Slavic descent. I know they had nothing to do with the slave trade, or owned slaves. I know that only a few people owned slaves. And I know the Irish weren't treated well. Look what happened when they weren't welcomed. Some of them resorted to criminal activity. The same happened with other immigrant groups who were treated horrible. There was criminal activity with immigrants too. Among Italian-Americans in Philadelphia, the homicide rate with them was higher than among African-Americans. When these immigrant groups were assimilated into the mainstream, then the crime rates dropped. I won't discount the role of personal responsibility.
Personally, I don't know what will happen if the tipping point is hit.
Why did you mention Marijuana at least twice in your article? What does that have to do with anything? Are you anti Marijuana? Do you drink alcohol? Coffee? Soft drinks? Smoke cigarettes?
Illegal does not equal immoral.
True conservatives wake up and get back to your roots. No more neocon bullshit. No more left wing bullshit. Wake the fuck up America!
Ron Paul 2012.
It's going to come down to one solution, whites separating themselves from everyone else. It's that, or a racially as well as politically motivated war and violence that will drag on for year after blood drenched year. Multi-racial societies are doomed to destroy themselves. Both whites and blacks both have been incredibly cruel to others of their own race, imagine how much worse it will be when they start to kill each other wholesale. Ukrainians and Russians alone have killed each other many, many times over the centuries in brutal warfare. That is why Ukrainians took their country back in 1991, and it's time for white Americans to form a land of their own. As I have said earlier, things are heading to a tipping point that will be tragic for everyone, and I think the best thing to do is for whites to separate themselves from other races......for everyone's sake. We have enormous problems that we have to deal with, starting with our below replacement birthrate and the enmity between white men and women. As for the evil doers among us, yes I agree they should be held accountable and punished accordingly. I am very angry and frightened about the direction this nation is taking, and from what I can see, whites are going to have to sieze homelands of their own, and leave the rest of the world to their own devices.
Evergreen, black folks, like yourself. Ones with some semblance of decency and understand reality are in a precarious position. Many whites won't trust you and most blacks will probably reject you as being "to white", am I wrong?
I feel for your plight in a way.
However, you as a black man of conscience, should still try to tell the truth about black pathology and racism. YES! I said black racism!
It's up to you to call a spade a spade. If you're as objective as you seem, then the burden of proof is now on you to prove your points.
Actions speak louder than words.
"My fear that if the tipping point is reach, some people would call for pre-1965 laws to be put in place. Other implications could mean a race war. These are two things I don't want."
What you don't seem to understand Mr. Evergreen is that the race war has begun.
Unfortunately, other than the few enlightened folks here and other like sites, most white people remain oblivious.
Are you suggesting white people not fight back?
I also agree that not all blacks are criminals; in fact most blacks aren't criminals.
The problem is, when you take the whole of the black population, 30% are criminals, 65% are their apologists.
The fact that you quote Cornell West tells me your not part of the remaining 5%... therefore an enemy.
How am I an apologist? I just said that there need to be consequences for criminal actions. My point was that when the mentality of a person is messed up, that person will commit crime because said person feels there is nothing to lose from committing a crime. The question is, what to do about a person who has such a nihilistic mentality.
"Many whites won't trust you and most blacks will probably reject you as being "to white", am I wrong?"
You are not totally wrong. I still hold out for the nice individuals who will accept me for me and look at me as a decent person. Regarding what you said, what will help my own survival if the tipping point is reached?
The differences between Blacks and Whites are genetic. Future time orientation, propensity to violence, IQ and a host of other traits are embedded in the DNA. Culture accentuates these differences.
Modern society can only handle so many people who are unproductive, need to be heavily policed, etc. We've gone deep into debt trying to benefit these people. The USA's borrowing authority is about to end (China is preparing to liquidate its holdings of US Treasury bonds). The resources the USA can devote to the unproductive and troublesome are disappearing.
Mr. Evergreen, what measures would YOU accept to deal with this problem of resources?
Requiring sterilization as a condition of uneducated single parents receiving welfare?
Deporting the illiterate/criminal class?
Keeping the criminals in line by placing bounties on ones killed in the commission of crimes? "Oh, this guy's juvie rap sheet was a mile long... you get $20000 for bagging that SOB!"
Your opinions on those ideas, and any others you have, are welcome.
"The differences between Blacks and Whites are genetic. Future time orientation, propensity to violence, IQ and a host of other traits are embedded in the DNA."
There is also research to prove the opposite.
"Mr. Evergreen, what measures would YOU accept to deal with this problem of resources?Requiring sterilization as a condition of uneducated single parents receiving welfare?
Deporting the illiterate/criminal class?
Keeping the criminals in line by placing bounties on ones killed in the commission of crimes? "Oh, this guy's juvie rap sheet was a mile long... you get $20000 for bagging that SOB!""
I would say have some laws similar to how things are done in Singapore. In Singapore you get caned for vandalism.
I would also be in favor of EVERYONE being able to carry concealed weapons. An earlier post said an armed society is a polite society.
Deporting people who are already citizens of the USA seems quite unfair. Deporting the illiterate particularly is cruel. Who is to say that because a person can't read should mean he gets deported. Some people just have learning issues. I say if you commit a crime, you go to prison. Raise the bar for everyone, make the expectations high for everyone.
I would also be in favor of EVERYONE being able to carry concealed weapons.
Even people with a history of crime? I don't think so. Keeping people with poor impulse control away from dangerous things is part of a sane society.
Deporting people who are already citizens of the USA seems quite unfair.
Not deporting them is unfair to the law-abiding and productive.
Deporting the illiterate particularly is cruel.
Liberia has 61.7% illiteracy. The illiterates would be in a society where they fit in, racially and otherwise. What's so great about them being in the USA where they're effectively unfit for employment, and can't give their children the literacy they don't have?
Who is to say that because a person can't read should mean he gets deported.
Why should someone who is effectively impossible to make fit for membership in society be allowed to stay in that society?
I say if you commit a crime, you go to prison.
Thereby costing society even more. The USA cannot bear the costs of being "nice" to Black people any more. If they can't behave themselves, can't get jobs... can't even be bothered to learn to read and speak proper English, they ought to be given not one cent's worth of anything unless they volunteer for a one-way trip to Monrovia.
There is also research to prove the opposite.
You believe this because you read the PC-censored press and do not read between the lines. The low-activity variants of the MOAO-a gene (Monoamine Oxidase A) are associated with quickness to use violence. Like all genes, they are 100% heritable.
The frequency of these variants is radically different between races. Science Daily minces words about this:
Several studies have found a correlation between the low-activity form of MAOA and aggression in observational and survey-based studies. Only about a third of people in Western populations have the low-activity form of MAOA. By comparison, low-activity MAOA has been reported to be much more frequent (approaching two-thirds of people) in some populations that had a history of warfare.
This is a euphemism for Blacks. Much more here.
Silent Running: I disagree completely. Although I don't mind the occasional reminder, we know what "intelligent" blacks think of us.
Do we? mr_evergreen has demonstrated that he does not belong in that category.
I wish you could have met "Mike" like I did the other day. He was an upstanding Black guy who believed in American exceptionalism and had nothing but scorn for (c)rap music and much of popular Black culture.
Please don't exaggerate the importance of the "intelligent" Negro.
I think you may be driving at a larger issue and that is one of basically how there are so few intelligent Blacks that they simply make no difference.
As someone else has asked at SBPDL; "What is there to be gotten from Blacks that I can get from Whites without any of the risks or hassles of dealing with thugs and bad attitudes?"
It's a sad indictment of an entire race that they bring so little to the table. In response, I can only say that one of the few American politicians that is worthy of voter respect is a Black man named LTC. Allen West, someone who should be sitting in the Oval Office instead of the de facto Muslim who currently occupies it.
Anonymous (September 22, 2011 8:25 AM): The low-activity variants of the MOAO-a gene (Monoamine Oxidase A) are associated with quickness to use violence.
Thank you very much for some hard scientific and biological data regarding Black propensity for violence. Those were some really useful links.
You are welcome...
even if you are an agnostic. (yeah, you know me but I seldomm post here as "myself")
"The low-activity variants of the MOAO-a gene (Monoamine Oxidase A) are associated with quickness to use violence."
Then why am I not using violence?
"mr_evergreen has demonstrated that he does not belong in that category"
Can you add more details please?
"Thereby costing society even more. The USA cannot bear the costs of being "nice" to Black people any more. If they can't behave themselves, can't get jobs... can't even be bothered to learn to read and speak proper English, they ought to be given not one cent's worth of anything unless they volunteer for a one-way trip to Monrovia."
I can handle myself. I have a job, and I get my college degree in May 2012. My father is a college graduate with a master's degree in engineering, I know Black people who have graduated from college, are raising families, and who are handling themselves without violence or crime. And honestly, I prefer the colder climate of Denver to the tropical heat of Monrovia,Liberia.
That's all well and good.
Now, what about the large fraction of your co-ethnics who are on food stamps, may never have been self-supporting, or are so familiar with the criminal justice system that they view a prison term as a rite of passage?
"Now, what about the large fraction of your co-ethnics who are on food stamps, may never have been self-supporting, or are so familiar with the criminal justice system that they view a prison term as a rite of passage?"
It is important to note that I have never been raised in the inner city, never lived around the inner city. The only person I have ever known who was ever on foodstamps was White, and that's because he showed me the EBT card. I don't ask who has foodstamps.I haven't been around the stuff you're talking about, so in a way, if I haven't lived around it, and don't live around it now, what can I do?
It is important to note that I have never been raised in the inner city, never lived around the inner city.
In other words, you are not one of "them".
The only person I have ever known who was ever on foodstamps was White, and that's because he showed me the EBT card.
But probably not someone who'd never held a job or was completely unfit to hold a job, nor viewed going to jail as part of becoming a man.
Mr. Evergreen, if you want what you say you want, yew people (snicker) need to come up with some better way of separating the costly, dangerous folks from the ones like you who don't want to be second-class citizens and whose basic character, considered alone, merits first-class membership in this society.
But there's more to it. There's this:
"what will help my own survival if the tipping point is reached?"
You're always looking out for yourself, aren't you? It's me, me, me. You're not looking out for the society whose benefits you want to enjoy. That's where your claim of good character starts breaking down.
I have a suggestion for you. Advocate your own separation from the Black Undertow (and any other kind of dysfunctional ethnic malaise you can think of). Advocate some system to keep the Black Undertow from invading White cities and schools. Push to end Affirmative Action and eliminate "disparate impact" EEOC rules. Demand that the housing discrimination cops be fired. You say you can make it on merit? Then keep those without merit from making other people miserable just because you share a complexion.
There's a list. It's a lot of work, so I suggest you start lobbying your legislators and not waste time posting here.
Evergreen's repeated whining can be summed up as, "Why won't you help the subset of blacks, to which I belong, live free and clear of the dangerous blacks? Why must I do everything myself, when it is your responsibility as well?"
"You're always looking out for yourself, aren't you? It's me, me, me. You're not looking out for the society whose benefits you want to enjoy. That's where your claim of good character starts breaking down"
The same thing you are doing?
Mr. Evergreen, I am probably the apex of the society whose benefits you want to enjoy, both racially and by disposition. You are not.
The same thing you are doing?
Au contraire, Mr. Evergreen. My co-ethnic ancestors built this society that you desperately want to be allowed to continue living in. Allowing your co-ethnics to run rampant is destroying it, even according to you.
We can do without you and yours. You cannot do without me and mine. Your race is parasitic.
"Au contraire, Mr. Evergreen. My co-ethnic ancestors built this society that you desperately want to be allowed to continue living in. Allowing your co-ethnics to run rampant is destroying it, even according to you.
We can do without you and yours. You cannot do without me and mine. Your race is parasitic."
My race is so parasitic, huh? Well, in that case, let me enlighten you on some things. It was the Black slaves that were forced to be here. It was Black slaves who were forced to pick the sugar cane, the tobacco, the cotton, the rice, the indigo. Those raw ingredients went to go make things like rum, clothes, and other items. Black people didn't get a cent from that. Slaves also built the White House. Black people were the ones building wealth for others and not benefiting from it. Alot of this nation's wealth was built from forced labor.
Anonymous: "We can do without you and yours. You cannot do without me and mine. Your race is parasitic."
Mr. Evergreen: "My race is so parasitic, huh? Well, in that case, let me enlighten you on some things. It was the Black slaves that were forced to be here. It was Black slaves who were forced to pick the sugar cane, the tobacco, the cotton, the rice, the indigo. "
Evergreen, you didn't refute Anonymous at all. Sugar cane and tobacco could be harvested without you. Negroids, on the other hand, could not accomplish the same things without white people. Without slaves, the cotton could have been picked by white laborers, though retail prices would have inched up. Railroads were mostly built by Chinese laborers, who worked for smaller sums than what it cost to house and feed negroes. The US negro slave population increased manyfold after the ban on new slave imports; compare that to the far more vast Arab slave trade, where the slave population kept decreasing even while importing new slaves.
To Anon. @ September 30, 2011 3:05 PM
Reg. Evergreen
He's just a softer version of Desiree, he's annoying, obtuse and brings absolutely nothing to our discussions other the the soooo typical Negro grievances.
I suggest he gets banned, he's too ill-willed and intellectually dishonest to be taken seriously.
Anon at 3:05 PM: The multi-cult likes to peddle the story that the railroads were built by Chinese labor, and it's becoming part of the historical landscape. None of the eastern tracks, which are the great bulk of the rails in this country, were laid by Chinese. On the trans-continental railroad, the Central Pacific used Chinese labor, while the Union Pacific used White labor. I'm not familiar with the building of other western major lines, but no doubt some Chinese, having acquired experience working for the Central Pacific, worked for other railroads as well. Some would have us believe that their contribution was essential and dominant, just as some exaggerate the achievements of the Tuskegee Airmen or the Japanese Americans of the 442nd RCT. Don't be fooled.
"Evergreen, you didn't refute Anonymous at all. Sugar cane and tobacco could be harvested without you. Negroids, on the other hand, could not accomplish the same things without white people. Without slaves, the cotton could have been picked by white laborers, though retail prices would have inched up. Railroads were mostly built by Chinese laborers, who worked for smaller sums than what it cost to house and feed negroes. The US negro slave population increased manyfold after the ban on new slave imports; compare that to the far more vast Arab slave trade, where the slave population kept decreasing even while importing new slaves"
Then why were slaves being imported? Who is going to pick cotton for free on a voluntary basis?
somebody else answer this cretin. I've already lost a few brain cells trying to explain to this dimwit. evergreen, how did you ever get into college? oh waitaminit, I think I know.
Who is going to pick cotton for free on a voluntary basis?
Cotton is now picked by machine, in case you hadn't noticed that little change.
You don't address the little fact that Arab slave buyers, who took far more African slaves than the Americas ever did, have roughly zero Black population today. That's because their Black boy slaves were all castrated, and the babies of the Black concubines were not allowed to live.
You've had 50 years of civil "rights", Affirmative Action and other benefits from the White man. Isn't it time for you to move on to the greater offenders against your ancestors, the Arabs? They have lots and lots of oil money right now, you should be demanding reparations from them. Maybe if you all moved to Saudi Arabia and rioted you could get a nice payoff.
"You don't address the little fact that Arab slave buyers, who took far more African slaves than the Americas ever did, have roughly zero Black population today. That's because their Black boy slaves were all castrated, and the babies of the Black concubines were not allowed to live.
You've had 50 years of civil "rights", Affirmative Action and other benefits from the White man. Isn't it time for you to move on to the greater offenders against your ancestors, the Arabs? They have lots and lots of oil money right now, you should be demanding reparations from them. Maybe if you all moved to Saudi Arabia and rioted you could get a nice payoff."
I know the Arabs traded slaves. But I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about in the USA. Different subject for a different time.
I am enjoying my civil rights. I can vote, go to school wherever I please, and I have a job. I don't break the law and I live a peaceful life.
If I rioted in Saudi Arabia right now, I would be killed. If I caused violence over there, as an American, I could be summarily killed. I'm not stupid enough to commit a crime in the USA, and I wouldn't commit a crime overseas either.
"I live a peaceful life."
mr_evergreen, you don't have to explain yourself to these idiot racist white people. Of course we can live peaceful lives, but idiot white racists refuse to open their eyes and acknowledge us. Like you, I am a peaceful African American who values education and condemns violent behavior. I recently attended an African American education summit at Howard University where we had a spirited argument about stereotypes. Here's a video from our debate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MB1_OjjUyo
@ Anon. October 6, 2011
"mr_evergreen, you don't have to explain yourself to these idiot racist white people."
If he doesn't want to have to explain himself, that's just fine with us, he's free to post his unfounded drivel elsewhere. He contributes NOTHING to any given topics. And while you're at it, you idiot racist black person, I'd suggest you post elsewhere on the blogosphere. There are many sites that cater to your kind, we certainly don't care to entertain someone as dense as everspleen. One dim-witted monumental bore is enough.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
(video title "Massive Chimpout 30+ SheBoons Locks in da Socks Brawl involving the whole block!")
I am enjoying my civil rights. I can vote, go to school wherever I please, and I have a job.
Lucky you aren't in most of Africa then?
Thank those traders who took your ancestors!
" And while you're at it, you idiot racist black person, I'd suggest you post elsewhere on the blogosphere. There are many sites that cater to your kind, we certainly don't care to entertain someone as dense as everspleen. One dim-witted monumental bore is enough."
you idiot white racist, I told you that I am a peaceful African American who values education and condemns violent behavior. I'm offering you video proof that black people can be intelligent and law abiding, since you refuse to open your eyes. Also, from that same weekend at Howard University, my professor debated Maya Angelou over the financial crisis. Here's the video from that exchange.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-NUFO6r3iU&NR=1
@ Anon. October 6, 2011
" you idiot white racist, I told you that I am a peaceful African American who values education and condemns violent behavior."
You're the IDIOT, you Black racist! There's no such thing as a White Racist, it's a creation of DWLs and race hustlers like yourself.
Listen, you African American person, if it weren't for Whites you wouldn't be EDUCATED nor peaceful, you'd more likely live amongst your kind and resort to your inherited primitive & violent behavior.
Show some respect for White People, they're the ones who made it possible for your kind to benefit from such a high standard of living.
And keep your uncalled for self-righteous indignation at perceived slights to yourself.
"Lucky you aren't in most of Africa then?
Thank those traders who took your ancestors!"
Actually, Black people got their full right to vote because they stood up and fought back. If Blacks had not fought back, they would have been treated badly to this day.
Evergreen
"Actually, Black people got their full right to vote because they stood up and fought back. If Blacks had not fought back, they would have been treated badly to this day. "
Rioting is not fighting back, it's civil unrest.
And why don't you clear the air from this blog? You have your own blog, stick to it ( even though no one's interested in it )and leave us alone!
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