Tuesday, September 27, 2011

"It's not a good way to live": Philadelphia Racial Violence Gets Worse

Liberty is dead in Black-Run Philadelphia
The summer of 2011 is over. What did we learn? That the racial violence of Black people targeting white people (and other non-Blacks) through Flash Mobs Mahogany Mobs is a non-story; that the strange incident in Jackson, Mississippi where white kids killed a Black guy in "bad part of town" (code for: drug-infested, high-crime, 'Black' area) is worthy of CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, NBC, etc., devoting airtime and punditry toward yet another Jena Six-style moment.

Not a word on the racial violence of Black people targeting white people in Milwaukee, Chicago, Cleveland, Columbia, St. Louis, Minneapolis, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, New York City, Boston, Peoria, Atlanta, or Philadelphia.

The heroic Drudge Report has been the lone - mainstream - voice of reason attempting to showcase the reality of Black-Run America (BRA) through the penumbra of nonsense and inanities peddled as news. Normal Americans who have come to rely on Matt Drudge's news aggregate site have been driven to click on stories detailing shocking Black criminal depravity and continued stories of the reliance on the federal government for mere necessities (such as EBT/Snap cards, of which Drudge recently lampooned by showcasing the rap by Mr. EBT).

These stories confirm to readers of Drudge (in the tens of millions) why they live nowhere near Black Undertow cities and exercise true freedom of association by living in Whitopia's and retreating away from Climate Change that is exacting devastation upon once economically healthy cities.

Over July 4, 2009, a white family in Akron learned a truth that must be beaten into the heads of people the country over, as they were attacked by 50+ Black people who shouted, "this is a Black World." Knowing that the legal system is run by people, like Eric "My People" Holder, trained (and promoted) to only prosecute hate crimes when the defendant is white, believing that justice will ever come to any of the people assaulted in the Wisconsin State Fair Attack in Milwaukee is akin to believing the world is flat.

Perhaps this is one of the reasons for such extreme levels of segregation in the United States, especially cities where the Black unemployable level (Black people rely on government jobs because the private sector has to turn a profit and can't have unproductive people on their payrolls) is reaching frightening levels, revealing to the world the harsh reality of cognitive differences between the races through the free market.

Knowing that rates of interracial crime and murder are horribly skewed toward Black people attacking, raping, murdering, assaulting and targeting white people (with the rare exceptions of white people targeting Black people for the aforementioned crimes fodder for Mainstream News sob stories of continued white oppression of "helpless" Blacks), the decisions made by white families across the country to live in cities with few Black people is a life-saving one. Never forget that nearly 90 percent of interracial murders in America are Black-on-white.

Knowing the high fratricide rates in the Black community (Black-on-Black crime), all white people are missing from having Black neighbors is the increasing odds of an early grave; being a mere statistic and a case for The First 48.

The once charming city of Montgomery, Alabama, ruined by the combined forces of the overwhelming might of the Black Undertow Effect and a perpetual nostalgia kick for reliving the Civil Rights struggle is drowning in a sea of Black crime and economic stagnation, caused by the lack of purchasing power in the Black community who inherited the city through white flight.

What are white people fleeing? What the audacity of hope wrought:
At least eight people were shot Saturday evening at a gathering of several hundred people at Oak Park.
Police Chief Kevin Murphy said some of the injured were children but he did not know how many or how old they were.


Victims were taken to both Jackson Hospital and Baptist Medical Center South, some by ambulance and some by per­sonal vehicle, said Sgt. Donna Mackey, a Montgomery Police Department spokeswoman.
A news release from Mackey on Saturday night stated all the victims were treated for in­ juries that were not life-threat­ening.


Details were limited Satur­day night as police were pro­cessing the scene and pursuing leads. Police were not sure how many shooters were in­volved.


The gathering was a reun­ion for current and former Trenholm Court residents, Murphy said. It was not immediately known, however, whether any of the shooters were taking part in the reun­ion.


Many of the victims were found at locations other than the park, having fled the gun­ fire, Mackey said.

Murphy stressed that a small number of people were responsible for the shootings and that most who attended the reunion just wanted to have a good time with their families.


"You should not condemn a community for the acts of a few," Murphy said of Trenholm Court, a housing area off Columbus Street near down­ town Montgomery.
You are right Chief Murphy: high rates of crime are discernible through statistical analysis in any Black community throughout the country. The problem of Black crime  - and the lowering of property value - isn't exclusive to Montgomery. That Black people refrain from "snitching" to the police and cover up the criminal actions of fellow Black people in their communities through the concept of Organized Blackness (Black people believe police are racist, without understanding that police are trained to only believe white people are racist) shows why white people must avoid the Black Undertow completely.

Your life might depend on it.

Especially if you live in Philadelphia, a city completely taken over by the Black Undertow Effect. Capable whites have fled the city, leaving behind middle class whites unable to evacuate the impending disaster already unfolding before our eyes. Black teens engaging in Mahogany Mobs have been targeting white people for random assaults and white businesses for vandalizing since Mein Obama came into power.

This license to steal and assault whitey is being replicated nationwide, but in Philadelphia we are witnessing something extraordinary.

We will now reproduce a story from the Philadelphia Inquirer that Matt Drudge featured on his Web site, detailing a home invasion by a Mahogany Mob on a white family:
ABOUT 11 P.M. on Sept. 9, dozens of youths with bats and pipes descended on a tidy residential area of Port Richmond looking for white teens who allegedly had attacked an African-American kid at Stokely Playground a couple of hours earlier.


Two fearful white teens spotted Mark LaVelle on Indiana Avenue near Belgrade Street and asked for help. Suddenly, the mob appeared. LaVelle, who said that he didn't know the two kids, who looked to be 13 or 14, ran with them into his nearby house.

" 'We got you, you white mother-------!' " LaVelle said he heard someone yell in the "mob" of black and Hispanic youths.

Inside his house, LaVelle, 37, called to his wife, Kim, 30, to go to their bedroom with their twin 13-month-old boys, Mark and Mason, and to call police. He also ordered his two other sons, 11 and 17, and his nephew, 7, to stay upstairs.

With the two teens hiding in the house, LaVelle, 5 feet 10, 220 pounds, a well-known sports-league organizer and coach in the community, went outside to try to calm the angry mob.

They were standing on his steps. One shouted, " 'Something's going to happen now!' " LaVelle recalled in an interview Friday at his house. LaVelle got nervous and went back inside, locking his door with a deadbolt.
But the attackers pounded on his front windows and kicked his wooden door so hard, it flew open and some of them entered his house.

"The first guy hits me with a pipe. The second guy knocks me in the face. All I'm hearing is my wife and kids screaming," said LaVelle, who feared that the next time they saw him, he would be in a casket.

He said that he was able to push the attackers out the door, but then a third man - who had a gun - tried to extend his arm. LaVelle grabbed onto the gunman's lower arm and shoulder so he couldn't raise the weapon. Then, police sirens screamed in the neighborhood, and the mob turned and ran.


LaVelle was able to identify three of the people from the melee. He said he did not know if they had been chasing the white teenagers, or if they were just trying to find someone to attack.

Police arrested Bergson Morin, 21, of Rosehill Street near Wyoming Avenue, Feltonville, as the man with the gun. They arrested Enrique Delgado, 32, of Rockland and C streets, Feltonville, as the man who hit LaVelle with the pipe. And they arrested a 17-year-old juvenile as the one who punched LaVelle in the face, giving him a black eye.

LaVelle said that the next day the mother of the juvenile came back with some other people, banging on his door, screaming. LaVelle, who was at a charity sports event, was called back to the house by one of his sons.
When he got home, LaVelle said, the mother yelled at him, " 'You white mother------, you got my kid locked up! You got my son locked up because he's black, you're white!' " The mother claimed that her son had been "a witness," not an attacker. To that, LaVelle said if that were true, it would come out in court.

But the mother, according to LaVelle, then yelled: " 'If you make it to court! I know where you live!' "

Police public affairs could not confirm yesterday if the mother has been arrested for making threats.

Patty-Pat Kozlowski, president of the Port Richmond on Patrol and Civic Association, said that police told her that the attack on LaVelle stemmed from the incident at Stokely Playground, Indiana Avenue and Thompson Street, a few blocks from LaVelle's house.

She heard that an African-American "kid got knocked off his bike or fell off" and white kids were laughing at him. The group of African-Americans and Hispanics came back for retaliation, Kozlowski believes.
She said she didn't know any of the people involved in the playground incident or in the attack on LaVelle. LaVelle said he also did not know anyone involved.

Morin and Delgado, who face charges of aggravated assault, conspiracy, burglary, weapons and related offenses, were scheduled to face a preliminary hearing in Municipal Court today, but the hearing got postponed to Nov. 7. Delgado, who is in state prison, was not brought down to the city. Also, both defense attorneys requested a lineup in the case, which the judge granted. Morin is in custody in county prison. Their family members could not be reached for comment Monday.

Freddy Godoy, Delgado's attorney, said yesterday that someone Delgado knows "was probably related to the child" who was attacked in the playground. But he contends that Delgado was not one of the people who attacked LaVelle.

Richard Patton, Morin's attorney, declined comment yesterday.

Kozlowski, a legislative aide to City Councilwoman Joan Krajewski and a lifelong Port Richmond resident, wrote about the attack in The Spirit community newspaper, which serves the river wards. Since then, the story has created a lot of buzz in the predominantly white neighborhood.

Kozlowski and Maryann Trombetta, president of the Port Richmond Town Watch, both recalled the murder of Sean Daily, a white teen who was beaten and shot by bat-wielding youths, mostly Latino, in May 1989.
They don't believe that the attack on LaVelle started as a racial incident, but believe that there was a racial element to it when the mob "called him a white mother------" and when the juvenile's mother allegedly threatened LaVelle.

LaVelle, who runs sports leagues composed of youths and adults of different races, said he doesn't want any retaliation on the people who attacked him. But the attack has instilled fear in him and his family, and he hopes that there will be more of a police presence in the neighborhood.

His wife is afraid to stay at home, and "every time I hear a car, I'm looking out the door," he said.
"It's not a good way to live."

No, it's not a good way to live. Thus, the reason Memphis, Detroit, Baltimore, Atlanta, Birmingham, Charlotte, Milwaukee, Chicago, St. Louis, Kansas City, Montgomery, and hundreds of smaller cities and counties have been evacuated through the life-prolonging action of white flight. New suburbs have been built across the nation because living near Black people, well, "It's not a good way to live."

Massive budgets for new highways, continual highway repairs, wasted hours sitting in long commutes on those highways (constantly being repaired); a reliance on gasoline for cars because of a desire to live in suburbs away from the Black Undertow Effect and stay away from public transportation (the preferred mode of transportation for the Black Undertow)' all because white people understand that living near Black people, well, "It's not a good way to live."

Contrary to what Ron Unz might write, living near illegal aliens in California isn't a good way to live either.

During the summer of 2011, almost every major city in America with a sizable Black population enacted emergency curfews to stop the Mahogany Mob violence. Only in times of war or natural disasters are curfews needed to keep the peace. Well, add when Black people decide following the law is immaterial to them.

After all, "It's a Black world."

All we can say to that is: "It's not a good way to live."

Be advised: if you live in an area with a high Black population, considering moving immediately. Your property value (if you own your home) is only going to depreciate and, as the Black Undertow Effect allows more and more Black people to take over the city infrastructure, police, district attorney's, and the mayor, city council members and entire governing apparatus will be Black.

Just like in Philadelphia, a city where Black-Run America (BRA) is rapidly approaching its logical conclusion. It started with random attacks on white people (and Asians in the horrible - because it is overwhelmingly Black - school system); now you have home invasions.

Words like 'freedom' and 'liberty' are tossed around frivolously in contemporary America. As long as BRA is the law of the land and a white person fears for their safety in a Black Undertow city, neither words can be used to describe life in America.








172 comments:

Anonymous said...

Shocking, but please get back to football. We have to stay focused on what's really important.

Anonymous said...

"Contrary to what Ron Unz might write, living near illegal aliens in California isn't a good way to live either."

Don't forget in Texas.

Baldowl said...

You know, I'd have no problem with your not posting the sarcastic "feetballz" comments. I don't think any serious readers of this blog would mind not having to read them.

Anonymous said...

I keep a loaded AR-15 carbine with a 30 round magazine ready for just such a thing. Had this happened to me, there'd be more than a few dead savages on the floor. Of course I don't live near substantial numbers of them.

Sheila said...

I just got threatened at another website (Urban Grounds) by someone with the handle "Nazar" because I discussed former SEAL Jake Zweig as another example of why there aren't more blacks in special forces. Said Nazar "I wouldn't talk shit about former SEAL on the internet or in person" if I were you, with the implied threat that free speech and thought on the web must be curtailed by threats of violence, as well.

PC thought/speech controls: It's not a good way to live. Diversity: It's not a good way to live.

mr_evergreen said...

Here is my plan. Find the perps, imprison them for a while, allow carry concealed weapons, and have more police on the streets in all areas to keep an eye on everyone.

Adrian said...

Just checking in i've not finished the Q&A from way earlier, having to move. Your blog is doing great on exposing these folks who continue the BRA we have today. It will be to a better neighborhood but barely, they've already been enriched by about 70% Melanin heavy persons.

Pvt keeping an eye on things.

Baldowl said...

Here is the plan White people follow, Mr. Evergreen: Move away from the Black people. It works every time, if only temporarily.

Anonymous said...

It always amazes me when white people put on the victim hat. As in victim of racial oppression. By any measure -- health, education, economics, employment -- white Americans enjoy a superior standard of living. If that's racial oppression, sign me up.

But still, one occasionally hears mewling noises from that subset of my white countrymen who feel put-upon by big, bad racial minorities.


I have four words for any other white Americans who feel themselves similarly victimized: Cry me a river.

mr_evergreen said...

"Move away from the Black people"

In that case, what happens to the Black people who get victimized by Black crime? Last time I checked, alot of middle class Blacks don't want to get caught up in that crap either. Why else do middle class Blacks often leave the inner cities?

Often how it works is the middle class Black family moves in. Someone doesn't want Blacks around and leaves. Later on more Blacks come, mostly non-criminal Blacks who just want the same things that White people are able to have. This is the thing: Criminal Blacks are more likely to go around in packs than middle class Blacks. Middle class and non-criminal Blacks tend to be relatively dispersed where as the criminals will pack in together.

Anonymous said...

Cry you a river?

Just what in the fuck are you talking about? Listen to how deluded you are. People are tired of being shot at, stabbed, assaulted in their own neighborhoods by well-fed minorities who have become bored with their Playstation 3?

Seriously. Cry you a river? How about w3e just shoot back and start burning neighborhoods to the ground you sack of shit?

Wulfram said...

September 27, 2011 12:41 PM
Anonymous said... "I have four words for any other white Americans who feel themselves similarly victimized: Cry me a river."


Anonymous, exactly why are you here if you do not want to hear views from a Whiter persons' point of view? If you have a brain dead TV, get back to watching it.

Baldowl said...

Friends, please don't feed the trolls.

mr_evergreen said...

"How about w3e just shoot back and start burning neighborhoods to the ground you sack of shit?"

And then there will be more violence. Violence towards the persons who didn't do anything to you will not solve anything. It will just create more violence. There is self-defense, and then there is revenge. Burning down the neighborhood will hurt those who haven't done anything to you, and cause more anger, which will lead to more revenge. This isn't 1921. The results of burning down a neighborhood will just foster more violence.

Anonymous said...

In that man's place, I would have made sure every one of the thugs who forced their way into his house, and the gun wielder would be found with their faces shot off. I have been threatened with a gun enough times by non-whites that the next time one does that, I will kill him and anyone else who tries to intervene. Invasion of someone's home while armed is more than enough grounds for the use of deadly force, and whites must be prepared to pull a trigger without mercy or remorse when these thugs threaten them and their families. Whites must also back up and help other whites defend themselves in court when they do start shooting rampaging non-whites during mob attacks such as this one. Like I said before, it's time for Vlad the Impaler style justice.

Anonymous said...

"It always amazes me when white people put on the victim hat. As in victim of racial oppression."

By contrast I am never amazed that non-whites can put on no other hat.

"By any measure -- health, education, economics, employment -- white Americans enjoy a superior standard of living. If that's racial oppression, sign me up."

If non-whites contributed to that you'd have a point, as it stands you do not, because that superior standard of living is the product of fleeing third world disfunction in all its forms.

Anonymous said...

It is sad to see my little town grow darker each day. The local Walmart once devoid of the negro now has them 'working' the aisles. I now see the ghetto types with the knots tied in their hair walking the streets of the growing town thanks to low income housing championed by the DWL tiny vocal crowd.

At some point we whites will have no place left to run. The mere thought of this group running roughshod over the graves of my ancestors who built this country is sickening.

Anonymous said...

It is sad to see my little town grow darker each day. The local Walmart once devoid of the negro now has them 'working' the aisles. I now see the ghetto types with the knots tied in their hair walking the streets of the growing town thanks to low income housing championed by the DWL tiny vocal crowd.

At some point we whites will have no place left to run. The mere thought of this group running roughshod over the graves of my ancestors who built this country is sickening.

Midwestern said...

"Be advised: if you live in an area with a high Black population, considering moving immediately... "

So....you are saying that the brave Americans who stood up to fight in the revolution were wasting their time? That they should have run away to hide and avoid conflict with the enemy? Your comment does not make me feel very hopeful, Paul. Are you serious???

This is why I like to read Hunter Wallace. He is brave. He does not back down. He sees the problem, and he calls whites to action. To be brave, fearless, and up to the black undertow. Blacks must think that whites are a bunch of sissies.

Why are white people not willing to fight for their cities? You are basically asking me to move from my family home, where I have raised my children and fought for others to come after me. I live on the edge of a "black hole", and while I could move and bankrupt my family, I choose to stay and fight. And yes, it is paying off!

I wish more white people were willing to do the same. It is dangerous to ask whites to run and hide. If we don't stand and fight, soon, there will be no place for us to go. I know so many young white couples with small children who are mortgaged to the max, with huge debt, huge expenses including safe private school tuition, and nothing to call their own.

I want for my husband to live near his job, for my children and grandchildren to have a place to call home and not be strapped with crushing debt. I invite all brave, young whites to stop running away, and to start demanding a place of their own.

Stuff Black People Don't Like said...

Fighting is not an option. Not at this point.

The law, the media, the police, the entire zeitgeist of the day is against the historic majority population of the United States.

That it took 18 days for this story to come out tells us all we need to know about the power of BRA.

Surviving is an option. Surviving is the only option.

10mm AUTO said...

Surviving is the Only Option. Correct!

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20110927_Chased_home__Mob_attacks_man_in_his_house.html?cmpid=124488459

This is the pattern, the standard of what it will be. This man is seemingly a generally good man sitting on his front porch when the negroids came calling. I doubt there really IS a White "teen" but if there is, thank goodness he was not caught by this lynch mob. I note that this man has a 17 year old son who was home at the time. He would have been dragged out and stomped to death.

Note that each negroid outrage this past year is a little more, first they only robbed Whites, then they beat and robbed Whites, then they made up games out of merely beating, then they came up on that guys porch in Philadelphia and he drove them off by displaying a rifle and now we have an gun armed mob breaking down the front door while the dad holds the breach and tells the kids to get upstairs and he desperately calls the Police.

Escalation over the past year has be rapid.

I was going to write a long post about weapon selection, tactics, Safe rooms and lawyers, but it is pointless. Even if you heroically survive an attack the negroids will burn you out. A family can't live in a siege mentally forever. The sow who threatened him is right, they know where you live and they will never forget, so one day "De'Shawen" will pour gasoline over your car at night, or go to the party your 17 year old is at and pour gasoline over him or meet your 11 year old walking home from school and finish the job. White Flight for this man is the only option and this goes for all of us.

We find ourselves at the opposite end of the spectrum that we want to be at, home attacks on Whites by niglets without out remorse and with guns and when the parents are called they back up the mob with their own terrorist threats and finally, the negroid covering Media does not report it for two weeks because they would rather write about the latest football game or the newest Diet. It is almost a surreal echo of South Africa and Rhodesia here in the USA.

Negroids will never stop till they FEAR to touch a White. How do we get there?

Exit Question: Suppose the Police had taken 10 more mins?

Midwestern said...

Mr. Evergreen, I see you are trying hard to make friends. Good luck with that.

It is the rioting, looting blacks who burn down neighborhoods. It is the blacks who hold all innocent whites responsible for the enslavement of their ancestors. It is blacks who are the most obsessed with race.

Whites do not randomly kill innocent, "middle-class" working blacks, but blacks beat, kill, and victimize innocent whites regularly.

White people do not want "middle-class" blacks following them to the suburbs and everywhere else. Blacks bring the ghetto with them wherever they go. If your black brethren do not even want to live near other blacks, then that should tell you something about your race.

You are ALL unwanted because you don't hold other members of your won race accountable. You are a culture of victimology and do not understand freedom and liberty. You are different from us, no matter what you say here.

Midwestern said...

"Surviving is an option. Surviving is the only option."

Where? How? Do you have a plan? How much is it going to cost you?

Section 8 blacks can pretty much move anywhere they want to right now. What if you move to hide and they come and find you and you have no money left to move again? What if you find yourself next door to a black welfare queen with 5 black boyfriends and 8 kids? You don't have a family yet, so maybe you don't understand where I am coming from. You sound like you have already surrendered. Be not afraid.

(I don't rely on the MSM being truthful about black crime these days, by the way. Surprising that they even printed the story.)

anon dude said...

You could look for a job out in the country or in a White state

But, some of the comments are right. Its getting more expensive for Whites to "flight".

Playing Roots Backwards said...

Whenever I read about White people who were unprepared to defend themselves I find myself wondering why so many White people have turned into Eloi in my lifetime.

When I was growing up on the West Side of Detroit in the 50's and 60's we fought all the time. Fistfights on the playground and bus. Recreational violence in the school gyms and boys clubs. We fought over whose dad had the fastest car. We fought over whose older brother was the toughest. We fought with rival families. We even fought with our siblings when nobody else was around to fight with.

It was the same all over. I had relatives in many states and they were all pugnacious bastards and so were the people around them.

Don't get me wrong, not everybody was brave or tough. There were sissies in every family, but it was not until Whites started fleeing from the Black hordes that the grazing animal characteristics became widespread in our race.

I have a semi-formed theory that putting White kids in the same schools with jungle animals is a large factor contributing to White cowardice.

The large carnivores of Africa made certain that the jungle boys that didn't grow up rapidly didn't grow up at all. A couple hundred thousand years of natural selection solidified that trait. For that reason, fourteen year old White boys are seldom as physically developed as their cannibal counterparts and are therefore no match for them at that age. Add to that the common occurrence of Black boys being held back a couple of times by the time they reach the 8th grade and you have a situation in which a White kid doesn't stand a chance in a fight.

I know there are other factors, such as pussy moms who say, "WE DON'T HIT!" each and every time a kid responds to that natural urge. Moms like that and sissy rules at school are instrumental to turning White kids into prime victims, but I think that exposure to jungle beasts during their formative years has been a much larger factor.

I used to ride with a club that had several dog-fighters as members. They all believed that the best way to ruin a game bred pit was to put a rough dog on him when he was too young to defend himself. It ruins them and turns them into cowards.

So goes it for human pups.

The solution: Don't let your kids around cannibals until they are old enough to stand their ground and don't marry a pussy bitch that says, "WE DON'T HIT!" Oh, yeah, and don't forget to teach your kids that punching and getting punched isn't a big deal.

Anonymous said...

"You know, I'd have no problem with your not posting the sarcastic "feetballz" comments. I don't think any serious readers of this blog would mind not having to read them."

Agreed.

Don said...

From Mr. Evergreen: "And then there will be more violence. Violence towards the persons who didn't do anything to you will not solve anything. It will just create more violence. There is self-defense, and then there is revenge. Burning down the neighborhood will hurt those who haven't done anything to you, and cause more anger, which will lead to more revenge. This isn't 1921. The results of burning down a neighborhood will just foster more violence."

Ummm, Yes, of course there will be more violence, & rightly so!. If a thug kills your wife or rapes your daughter, you DO NOT let the police take care of it.. You hunt every thug down you can & you exterminate them like rabid dogs!, & I mean ALL of them!.....

The time for tolerance & understanding has long since passed, the day of the sword is at hand!.

Anonymous said...

"It always amazes me when white people put on the victim hat."

When a white person is attacked by a group of black animals, he is a victim.

If this "always amazes" you, then you are an "easily-amazed simpleton".

Anonymous said...

"In that case, what happens to the Black people who get victimized by Black crime?"

No snitching.

Anonymous said...

"And then there will be more violence."

As opposed to what?

Anonymous said...

They were standing on his steps. One shouted, " 'Something's going to happen now!' " LaVelle recalled in an interview Friday at his house. LaVelle got nervous and went back inside, locking his door with a deadbolt.
But the attackers pounded on his front windows and kicked his wooden door so hard, it flew open and some of them entered his house.

"The first guy hits me with a pipe. The second guy knocks me in the face. All I'm hearing is my wife and kids screaming," said LaVelle, who feared that the next time they saw him, he would be in a casket.

He said that he was able to push the attackers out the door, but then a third man - who had a gun - tried to extend his arm. LaVelle grabbed onto the gunman's lower arm and shoulder so he couldn't raise the weapon. Then, police sirens screamed in the neighborhood, and the mob turned and ran.

Jee-zus Christ. Sounds like a zombie movie, except zombies are bit less cowardly. This guy needs to get his family and move immediately.

Natassia said...

Hey Roots,

Getting punched by a bully is a big deal, especially when schools will suspend the victim for hitting back.

Best recourse is teaching kids self-defense techniques and that standing up to big mouthed black bullies is the best way to avoid being a victim. Ghetto folk smell fear and feed off it.

map said...

I have a technical question. How do you defeat ballistic forensics on shell casings? Yes, I can make sure finger prints are not on it, but what do you do about the tool marks and brand name on the casing?

10mm AUTO said...

"I have a technical question. How do you defeat ballistic forensics on shell casings? Yes, I can make sure finger prints are not on it, but what do you do about the tool marks and brand name on the casing?"

Quick and Dirty is to use a stainless steel brush on barrel and chamber and a tiny file on the firing pin. Reload this weapon with different ammo that suddenly becomes your favorite that you "Always" use.

Better is to have a entire replacement upper for the entire pistol that you can put on in an instant. (An upper is slide, barrel, firing pin, etc. Better yet is make sure the entire weapon, broken down into parts, "Sleeps with the fishes".

The best thing you can do is NOT TO TALK, or as we say in the NorthWest, "Shoot, Shovel and Shutup". Have the family attorney's card in your wallet so when you say, "I want to speak to an Attorney" that is the end of the interview.


May I recommend the book "Unintended Consequences" by John Ross

(The above information is for entertainment purposes only written for humorous content and in no way constitutes either legal advice nor advocates the breaking of State, Federal, or local laws in the deportment of evidence or any other matter.)

Anonymous said...

->Completely Off Topic<-

Is anyone here a regular viewer of "The Wire"?

I do not have HBO, I have never seen this show once, but I've been told repeatedly it is far and away the best show on television.

Any opinions are appreciated, thanks in advance.

Baldowl said...

Anonymous, I tried watching "The Wire," but was driven away by the negritude. I didn't even make it through the second episode.

Playing Roots Backwards said...

Natassia

Any worthwhile means of learning self-defense techniques involves getting punched. Many, many times. It will quit being a big deal after the first month or two.

Playing Roots Backwards said...

Map

Use a wheel gun and you won't leave evidence all over the place.

Natassia said...

Roots,

Getting punched in a kickboxing class is different than getting punched by a mob of blacks in high school. Whether or not you see it as a "big deal" is irrelevant.

The physical damage initially may be the same, but in kickboxing class your sparring partner is not actually trying to destroy you. And typically such fights are fought fairly. No such luck with black folks who tend to favor the unexpected attack routine. And your chances of getting admitted to a good university aren't marred by sparring in kickboxing class whereas a school suspension record very well might hurt your admission prospects.

So, a generic punch might not be a "big deal" but every scenario is unique, and a punch from a black bully in school is a helluva big deal. And it should be treated that way,

Que Fah said...

Pennsylvania Castle Doctrine + Remington 870 X 00 Buck = Mahogany Mob Neutralized

mr_evergreen said...

"As opposed to what?"

My point was that vengeant violence against those who haven't perpetrated it will breed more hatred and the victims of that violence will want revenge.

map said...

10 mm auto -

Thanks

So if I run 147 gr ammo for several hundred rounds after running 115 gr ammo, that will alter the striations? What about the name brand on the shell casing?

Also, Glocks seem to have barrels that are hard to identify. Any other recommended autos I can use?

Simon Jester said...

I have a technical question. How do you defeat ballistic forensics on shell casings? Yes, I can make sure finger prints are not on it, but what do you do about the tool marks and brand name on the casing?

If you use a revolver, you don't have to worry about that.

Whiskey said...

You ask, how did we get here? That's the whole point of the Civil Rights movement, to make up for horrific treatment of Black people (and yes it was horrific) by treating White people like dirt, third class citizens.

Anonymous said...

To Playing Roots Backwards

I can attest to the being hit, hitting the ground etc until i learned to hit back.

Pvt keeping an eye on things.

Indianapolis said...

The Demographic Dance . . .

Whites move to get away from violent blacks.

Blacks move to get away from violent blacks.

Whites move to get away from the violence that blacks brought with them when they moved to get away from violent blacks.

Blacks move to get away from the violence that blacks brought with them when they moved to get away from violent blacks.

Whites move to get away from the violence that blacks brought with them when they moved to get away from violent blacks when they moved to get away from violent blacks.

Blacks move to get away from the violence that blacks brought with them when they moved to get away from violent blacks when they moved to get away from violent blacks.

ad infitum

Indianapolis said...

I don't think blacks hate White people for being white.

I think blacks hate themselves for not being white and take it out on White people.

Indianapolis said...

Behold the black racist.

• He speaks the White language.
• He wears clothes designed and manufactured by White people.
• He uses technology devised by White ingenuity.
• He receives health care provided by White science.
• He receives education from White people.
• He enjoys the manifold blessings of living in a Western culture.

What if black racists were required to surrender all the benefits of Western culture? What if black racists were required to return to living naked in grass huts with no communication with Western culture whatsoever?

What if black racists were allowed to participate in Western culture ONLY after they learn to respect and appreciate our values, technological advances, and rule of law?

In the meantime . . .

cry me a river.

Anonymous said...

Street interview with blacks before 2008 election:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1-RchxqTPg

Anonymous said...

“Whereveryou find the Negro everything is going down around him, and wherever youfind the White man you see everything around him improving.” –RobertE. Lee, to Col. Thomas H. Carter, May, l965

I direct your eyes to Iceland. This is what happens when you put whites on an island and leave them alone == Iceland, the only all-White nation in the world, has the world’s highest literacy rate. 100%. It is an island of cooled volcanicmagma, located Just south of the Arctic Circle. It has no coal, no fuel,no timber, no mineral wealth or natural resources, and no navigable rivers.75% of the interior is uninhabitable and only about 1% of the land is arable.It is the youngest nation in Europe and one of the most isolated countriesin the world. Nonetheless, Iceland is #2 in the world in life expectancyand has one of the world’s highest standards of living, in terms of percapita income. It has tremendous medical facilities and a thriving publishing business. Upon graduation from highschool, each Icelandic student has learned five languages.

Then there is Africa, or Haiti - nuff said.

Anonymous said...

"By any measure -- health, education, economics, employment -- white Americans enjoy a superior standard of living. If that's racial oppression, sign me up."

Whites created the healthcare, education and economic systems and create most of the jobs. Despite this fact, we are discriminated in each of these sectors.

By any measure - blacks enjoy a superior standard of living in the U.S. than in Africa or Haiti. If that's racial oppression sign me up.

Anonymous said...

"Violence towards the persons who didn't do anything to you will not solve anything. It will just create more violence."

Tell it to the blacks who commit all the racial violence.

"This isn't 1921. The results of burning down a neighborhood will just foster more violence."

Not true. In 1921, blacks knew whites would retaliate so black-on-white racist violence was much lower.

mr_evergreen said...

"Not true. In 1921, blacks knew whites would retaliate so black-on-white racist violence was much lower."

And then the 1960's came. Black people became angry and vengeant because of what was done to them for hundreds of years. I'm not saying it's right. I'm not offering excuses either. I'm saying that's what happens. The attitude of Blacks from 1921 is not the same as today. That is the difference. Attitudes have changed.

Anonymous said...

"My point was that vengeant violence against those who haven't perpetrated it will breed more hatred and the victims of that violence will want revenge."

So in other words...

When negroes commit violence against innocent whites, it breeds hatred, and the whites want revenge.

We agree.

Anonymous said...

Behind these little skirmishes, it's simply a matter of numbers and time. Whites are reproducing at significantly lower rates than other ethnicities. That's the rationale for Europe's self-destructive immigration policies. It's readily apparent in American cities which have re-entered the 3rd world. Given the obvious and wide-spread erosion of the cultural attributes which made the white European culture the force it was, it won't be all that long before all but those who treasure their origins are subsumed.

Anonymous said...

The "housing bubble" of 2007-08 has made it impossible to move away from the city. Our home lost half of its value practically overnight.

Now we couldn't sell it for half of what we owe on it, if it could be sold at all.

The housing bubble and most of the other economic problems were caused by the wealthy Wall Street elites and Banksters (all white) - thanks alot!

So we're stuck, it appears.

LBD said...

Mr. Evergreen, in what way would that violence and vengeance you predict will happen if white people defend themselves look different from black people's current normal everyday violence and vengeance? Mr. LaVelle, the victim of the home attack described above, spent his entire adult life helping and being kind to the black youths in his neighborhood and was repaid with a murderous attack in his own home. How much sucking up to negroes does a white have to do to be exempt from violence and vengeance? Oh, I forgot, there is no limit to the resources blacks will drain from whites with zero gratitude or reciprocation.

Playing Roots Backwards said...

Natassia

Spoken like a true Eloi. There are always a million excuses for going out like a pussy. When I was in grade school I witnessed many sissies play the "GLASSES" and the "NEW SHIRT" card. In high school it was the "I DON'T WANT TO GET EXPELLED" routine. When I was in college in the 1970's all of the cowards turned into hippies so they could claim they were pasifists, but if you kept your eyes open you could catch them picking on sissies that were even farther down in the coward hierarchy.

I never wore glasses, but I'm pretty damn sure that they wouldn't have kept me off somebody's ass. I had many good shirts ripped off my back and I had more than my share of expulsions from high school. It doesn't kill you.

I've been kicked and hit in kick boxing. I've been flipped, chopped and twisted in Judo . I've been punched and punched low in amateur and club boxing. I've had all of the above and then some handed to me in scuffles out in the real world. I got stabbed in Davenport, Iowa and shot in Minneapolis, Minnesota.

I'm 58 years old and many men that grew up when I did have similar tales to tell. The White race hasn't changed genetically since I came down the chute, so the difference in ball volume has to be due to nurture. I'm fairly certain that any child you raise will always prefer an excuse instead of of a swelled up face. You might want to think about that.

Anonymous said...

"And then the 1960's came. Black people became angry and vengeant because of what was done to them for hundreds of years. I'm not saying it's right. I'm not offering excuses either. I'm saying that's what happens. The attitude of Blacks from 1921 is not the same as today. That is the difference. Attitudes have changed."

Black violence in the 1960s was nothing new. It's just that whites stopped retaliating so blacks had (and have) no incentive to stop their racist violence.

If your theory were correct, blacks would stop raping, robbing and murdering whites since whites rarely respond in kind.

Given the amount of black racist violence, perhaps you should rethink your theory.

Anonymous said...

"Black people became angry and vengeant because of what was done to them for hundreds of years. I'm not saying it's right. I'm not offering excuses either. I'm saying that's what happens."

Then why aren't whites retaliating?

Anonymous said...

"And then the 1960's came. Black people became angry and vengeant"

Excuse me, but black people were angry and violent BEFORE the 1960's, and AFTER the 1960's.

Black people have always been angry and violent.

Mr Evergreen, you are a walking bag of cliches.

mr_evergreen said...

"Black violence in the 1960s was nothing new. It's just that whites stopped retaliating so blacks had (and have) no incentive to stop their racist violence"

Prove it!!

mr_evergreen said...

"Black people have always been angry and violent."

So have White people. There is a history of that. Furthermore, I used the word "vengeant", as in seeking revenge.

Zenster said...

'You white mother------, you got my kid locked up! You got my son locked up because he's black, you're white!'

No. Her son got himself locked up by participating in a mob action. You can just hear the screeching victimhood in this woman's voice.

mr_evergreen: In that case, what happens to the Black people who get victimized by Black crime?

They learn to fight criminality, regardless of the perpetrator's race and they especially learn how to report ongoing criminal activity to the police.

The "no snitching" tradition damns Blacks to the crime that they turn a blind eye towards. It is almost impossible to feel any sympathy for the hole Blacks have dug for themselves.

Anonymous said...

As long as white cops value their pensions and jobs more than they do citizens of their own race, we will continue to have this problem.

Brother Anonymous said...

Mr. Evergreen,

"Black violence in the 1960s was nothing new. It's just that whites stopped retaliating so blacks had (and have) no incentive to stop their racist violence"

Prove it!!

_____


Prove what? That whites stopped retaliating against blacks? Isn't that self-evident? Even Reverend Al might concede there haven't been any white-on-black lynchings in awhile.

Or is it the reference to "black racist violence"? Sorry, man -- anyone who's grown up in desegregated schools knows the score...even if they won't admit it. That genie's out of the bottle.

Anonymous said...

Sounds like people in the Philly neighborhood are waking up. They don't care about the police anymore, they are taking action because they know the police can't help them. I don't know if all these people were head in the sky types before and have awaken or what. Read about neighborhood preparations here:

http://www.philadelphiaweekly.com/news-and-opinion/news/Tensions-Running-High-in-Port-Richmond-in-Wake-of-Recent-Violence-130446098.html

Some selected passages:

"...phone trees have been established … and if it were to happen again, the men of the neighborhood will be out."

"...a third man stood up and vaguely referred to a plan of action coordinated among the men in the community—which came off as thinly veiled promise of swift vengeance."

Will be interesting to see what happens when the first innocent homeowner defends themselves with a high capacity semi-auto rifle.

Anonymous said...

I live downtown, but am fortunate to live in an area where Negroes do not predominate. Some blocks away it is different, and they are always causing problems.

I'm in a concealed carry state, and outdoors I am always armed. Whether it's a 17 round 9mm Croatian army pistol or, when packing light, a small 8 shot 32 cal pocket pistol, it doesn't matter to me. At home I have a Bushmaster M5 style AR-15 carbine ready, at all times.

Am I overreacting? Tell it to a Philly family, not me. The days of complacency are over, and one must prepare, taking stock of one's situation. I swear to my White brothers, and to my ancestors, that I will die fighting before savage Negroes run the hoodoo down on me.

Anonymous said...

"So have White people."

Once again, you resort to standard, predictable, mindless negro talking points...
"Whites do it too".

Mr Evergreen, black people are 12% of the population, yet commit more than half of the murders in this country.

You can't change this fact by childishly screaming "whites do it too".

You fail.

Anonymous said...

"Prove it!!"

Mr Evergreen, I'm not interested in "proving" anything to you, because quite frankly, I don't give a flying shit what you believe.

You have been fed a monstrous lie. This blog exposes that lie.

If you are not interested in being enlightened, then please leave, this blog is not for you.

Old White Jim said...

Three words for Mark LaVelle: Pennsylvania Castle Doctrine

Van said...

Evergreen: In that case, what happens to the Black people who get victimized by Black crime?

I. Don't. Care. Anymore.

You never answered "the question" - do blacks bring anything to the table that outweighs all the negatives?

Anonymous said...

SBPDL said:

"Never forget that nearly 90 percent of interracial murders in America are Black-on-white."

That can't be true. Sorry, I do not believe this for a second. Not to be rude but ... citation needed. And I don't want to beat a dead horse here, but if this is an exaggeration, then the quote serves only to lend less credibility to the rest of your work.

But you are right about "fighting not being an option; people who were born black will never be completely eradicated, and that's sad when you think about it, so there will always be savages and disingenuous white libtards working against us.

The solution is INDEED to survive. Heroism should be left to the comics because it is absolutely overrated. White people (humans in general) can ask themselves one simple question:

Am I a Boer?

If the answer is yes, then MOVE you idiot!

The Senior Engineer

Zenster said...

mr_evergreen: So have White people.

You are attempting to use an invalid debating ruse known as tu quoque:

Tu Quoque is a very common fallacy in which one attempts to defend oneself or another from criticism by turning the critique back against the accuser. This is a classic Red Herring since whether the accuser is guilty of the same, or a similar, wrong is irrelevant to the truth of the original charge. However, as a diversionary tactic, Tu Quoque can be very effective, since the accuser is put on the defensive, and frequently feels compelled to defend against the accusation.

Please stop with the usual Black and Liberal talking points. They only point out the shallowness of your arguments and piss off people who are fed up with that sort of crap.

Notice how you aren't getting much sympathy when you trot out these old bromides? I seriously recommend that you begin addressing the numerous questions you have left unanswered all through the threads where you have participated, like that of Van above.

Desiree said...

"Words like 'freedom' and 'liberty' are tossed around frivolously in contemporary America. As long as BRA is the law of the land and a white person fears for their safety in a Black Undertow city, neither words can be used to describe life in America."


Oh, okay. I get it. You want the 'freedom' and the 'liberty' to say nigger without getting slapped.

LOL.

If a white person lives near the so-called 'Black Undertow' (that doesn't have the dazzle of BRA and CEBFs, by the way), they are probably the type of whites who aren't allowed in the 'nice areas' either.

Ask Midwestern all about it! She be of da ghetto!

Desiree said...

Hey, SBPDL, did you ever reveal the reason behind your emergency 'fundraiser'?

Call me a cynic but I think that was a money-grab, IMO.

:-/

Anonymous said...

"Black violence in the 1960s was nothing new. It's just that whites stopped retaliating so blacks had (and have) no incentive to stop their racist violence"

Prove it!!"

http://www.colorofcrime.com/colorofcrime2005.html


Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving blacks and whites, blacks commit 85 percent and whites commit 15 percent.

Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against blacks. Forty-five percent of their victims are white, 43 percent are black, and 10 percent are Hispanic. When whites commit violent crime, only three percent of their victims are black.

Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against a white than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.

Blacks are 2.25 times more likely to commit officially-designated hate crimes against whites than vice versa.

Anonymous said...

@Evergreen

Now how about your proof about white retaliatory violence causing more black racist crime.

Stuff Black People Don't Like said...

Senior Engineer,

Here is a Walter Williams column from 2001:

http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=21982

"Since 1972, the U.S. Department of Justice has conducted a National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS) to determine the frequency of certain crimes. One category is interracial crimes. Its most recent publication (1997), "Criminal Victimization in the U.S.," reports on data collected in 1994. In that year, there were about 1,700,000 interracial crimes, of which 1,276,030 involved whites and blacks. In 90 percent of the cases, a white was the victim and a black was the perpetrator, while in 10 percent of the cases it was the reverse.

Another finding of the NCVS report is that of the 2,025,464 violent crimes committed by blacks in 1994, 1,140,670 were against whites - that's slightly over 56 percent. Whites committed 5,114,692 violent crimes; 135,360, or 2.6 percent were against blacks.

In 1997, there were 2,336 whites charged with anti-black crimes and 718 blacks charged with anti-white crimes, so-called hate crimes. Although the absolute number of white offenders was larger, the black rate per 100,000 of the population was greater, making blacks twice as likely to commit hate crimes."

Here is more:

http://www.colorofcrime.com/colorofcrime2005.pdf

Anonymous said...

"Hey, SBPDL, did you ever reveal the reason behind your emergency 'fundraiser'?

Call me a cynic but I think that was a money-grab, IMO."

Too bad we don't get corporate and government money like the NAACP, Nation of Islam, The Urban League, the Congressional Black Caucus and the other black racist groups.

Anonymous said...

Don't forget that these official stats count Hispanics as white when they commit crimes (though not when they are victims). Meaning the black-white gap is even larger.

Stuff Black People Don't Like said...

Mr. Evergreen,

Black crime has always been bad (it's disproportionately, bad in every nation where Black people are found, whether they are the minority or majority). W.E.B. Dubois even wrote about it.

http://stuffblackpeopledontlike.blogspot.com/2011/03/when-in-doubt-just-mention-lynching.html

Anonymous said...

"Am I a Boer?

If the answer is yes, then MOVE you idiot!"

To where? Are we giving visas out to them like hotcakes? The 800 THOUSAND who left pretty much immediately were the ones able and capable of taking your advice, the remaining 3 and a half million will not be so lucky.

Anonymous said...

"Oh, okay. I get it. You want the 'freedom' and the 'liberty' to say nigger without getting slapped."

I already have the freedom to say NIGGER without getting slapped.

What negroes think of me is not high on my priority list.

Anonymous said...

"That can't be true. Sorry, I do not believe this for a second."

Senior Engineer...knowing that white-on-black crime (or NON-crime, as in Duke Lacrosse) is sensationalized, heralded and exaggerated by the mainstream media, while black-on-white crime goes unmentioned...just stop and ask yourself, WHEN is the last time you heard of any white-on-black violence?

James Byrd, perhaps??

Black-on-white violence is commonplace, and increasing. White-on-black violence is not only statistically rare, it is virtually non-existent.

Anonymous said...

Hey Evergreen, catch!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVSL8RG8l4w&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wUiQSWjJaA&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmrkTi3EHqk

Pvt keeping an eye on things, hey by the way chill out sniff the jenkum.

Anonymous said...

"Call me a cynic"

I'd rather call you an obsessive, deranged, psycho-racist.

10mm AUTO said...

Desiree, in honor of seeing you again, I donated another $25 to SBPDL. It is fun to watch it grow, to participate and to watch racist negroids like you go "tee hee" when they think that they have a point.

I noticed you have not addressed the thread we are discussing and I can understand why it would be difficult. You are desperately looking through the internet for a case where a negroid dad jammed the door shut on rampaging Whites as they tried to kill their children because the the children laughed at some Whites.

Good Luck.

Anonymous said...

"Black-on-white violence is commonplace, and increasing. White-on-black violence is not only statistically rare, it is virtually non-existent."

There is some white-on-black violence but it is usually retaliatory. For example, the James Byrd killers were raped in prison by Negro rape gangs. Whites don't form rape gangs (accept in the movies like Shawshank Redemption, American Me and other works of fiction). If blacks did get raped by whites and retaliated they would be supported and celebrated like O.J. and Mumia.

Anonymous said...

"Oh, okay. I get it. You want the 'freedom' and the 'liberty' to say nigger without getting slapped."

I'll settle for the freedom to not have my home stormed by a black racist lynch mob.

And for the freedom to fight back against a black racist without being charged with a hate crime.

Anonymous said...

Why does Desiree have a picture of a white woman for her avatar?

I bet she dreams of being white like that scene in Precious. That's why she can only hate.

Anonymous said...

"You are desperately looking through the internet for a case where a negroid dad jammed the door shut"

You'd have to first find a negro father.

Desiree said...

"Too bad we don't get corporate and government money like the NAACP, Nation of Islam, The Urban League, the Congressional Black Caucus and the other black racist groups."


STFU! Black people deserve white money! If I could hold Kersey upside down by one ankle to get what's in his pockets, I'd do it.

Actually, I want Sheila to pay for me; I'd die and go to heaven if Sheila's family paycheck went right into my bank account. I heart Sheila.

(LOL--you people love that, don't you?)

No, but really, that was a total money-grab. He won't fess up because he knows it's true... The aforementioned organizations are legit; Kersey won't even use his real name.

Silent Running said...

Pennsylvania Castle Doctrine + Remington 870 X 00 Buck = Mahogany Mob Neutralized

+1

Shotguns are essentially impossible to trace via forensics because shotgun pellets don't touch the barrel. All that leaves is the shell casing, and the 870 is a very common model.

Take a page from Anton Chigurh's book and get yourself a 12 gauge. 00 Buck turns any unarmored target into ground beef.

Anonymous said...

"Why does Desiree have a picture of a white woman for her avatar?"

She hates being referred to as "chubby mulatto".

mr_evergreen said...

"Hey Evergreen, catch!"

What's your point?

"Mr Evergreen, black people are 12% of the population, yet commit more than half of the murders in this country."

And 90 percent of murders committed by Blacks are against other Blacks. Blacks are more likely to BE murdered than anyone else in the USA despite only making up 12% of the population. You say Whites are not safe around Blacks. I am going to piggyback off of your logic for a moment. If Whites are not safe around Blacks, then it is fitting to say that Blacks are not safe around Blacks either even more so, seeing as Blacks get murdered more than anyone else in the USA, and mostly by other Black people.

Anonymous said...

"Blacks are more likely to BE murdered than anyone else in the USA despite only making up 12% of the population."

Yes, in spite of being only 12% of the population, blacks are significantly more likely to kill each other.
Whites call this "black birth control".

Anonymous said...

"Kersey won't even use his real name."

Gee, I can't imagine why he wouldn't want an obsessed psycho like you to know his real name.

mr_evergreen said...

"Whites call this "black birth control"

No. Most Whites I've been around don't call it that. I don't call it that either. I call it self-inflicted genocide that needs to stop. The murder statistic I just listed also says this: It means I, a young Black man, have the highest chance of being murdered.

Anonymous said...

I thought Moonbat Desiree was banned from this blog?? Is there a full moon tonight? The crazies' psychotic tendencies are exacerbated on such nights.
Diarrhea, I'd love to tell you this: Get a bloody life outside the blogosphere & get the Hell Out of here!

map said...

"And 90 percent of murders committed by Blacks are against other Blacks. Blacks are more likely to BE murdered than anyone else in the USA despite only making up 12% of the population. You say Whites are not safe around Blacks. I am going to piggyback off of your logic for a moment. If Whites are not safe around Blacks, then it is fitting to say that Blacks are not safe around Blacks either even more so, seeing as Blacks get murdered more than anyone else in the USA, and mostly by other Black people. "

Mr. Evergreen, this is what you are not understanding: this is a thread discussing the threat that black people pose to white people, not a thread about how black people are dangerous to other black people. Moreover, white people do not pose the threat to blacks that blacks pose to whites.

Old White Jim said...

Silent Running

I've gotta differ with you on the double ought. It's my second favorite. My all time favorite is #4 buck. I used to test a lot of guns and ammo at a friend's automobile graveyard and I really liked what that #4 does to a car door at 10-15 feet: No individual holes, just one big-assed raggedy blowout. The beauty of it nearly brought tears to my hateful eyes the first couple of times. Shotguns are our friends.

For handguns I prefer Glasers or Magsafes in a large caliber wheel gun. Despite what their manufactures say, I don't think the pre-fragmented rounds have the stopping power of a SJHP, but they don't leave much for the CSI cocksuckers to do a ballistics match on. Wheel guns keep the tattle-tale casings in the cylinder where they belong.

No evidence = no trial.

Simon Jester said...

+1

Shotguns are essentially impossible to trace via forensics because shotgun pellets don't touch the barrel. All that leaves is the shell casing, and the 870 is a very common model.

Take a page from Anton Chigurh's book and get yourself a 12 gauge. 00 Buck turns any unarmored target into ground beef.


I prefer the 590A1 which is the heavy-duty military version of the Mossberg Persuader:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne6IJ3TmbIo

That said, the 870 is also a very capable weapon. Hell, pretty much any pump-action shotgun made by a reputable gun company will do you.

Those who have recoil-sensitive individuals in their homes (women, children, slightly-built men, etc.) might also want to consider the 20 gauge. It has considerably less recoil than the 12, but is still a very good stopper, at least at in-house range.

Anonymous said...

"Kersey won't even use his real name."

Listen you moron (I hate using such language, but in your case it fits). No one who has a job uses his real name when speaking the truth about Negroes. Unless they want to become unemployed. It's easy to use a real name when you tow the political line. That is not a sign of courage or virtue. Not so easy in today's social totalitarian state, unless you want to ruin your life and the life of your family.

One day it will change. Then we can speak to your face, and out in the open about what Negroes really are.

Anonymous said...

SBPDL said:

""Black crime has always been bad""

Indeed, here is a Time article from 1958 about Negro crime. Of course even then they were not holding blacks responsible but rather 'the failure to integrate'

National Affairs: THE NEGRO CRIME RATE: A FAILURE IN INTEGRATION

THEY are afraid to say so in public, but many of the North's big-city mayors groan in private that their biggest and most worrisome problem is the crime rate among Negroes.

In 1,551 U.S. cities, according to the FBI tally for 1956, Negroes, making up 10% of the U.S. population, accounted for about 30% of all arrests, and 60% of the arrests for crimes involving violence or threat of bodily harm—murder, non-negligent manslaughter, rape, robbery and aggravated assault. In one city after another, the figures—where they are not hidden or suppressed by politicians—reveal a shocking pattern. Items:

New York (14% Negro). Of the prisoners confined in houses of detention last year to await court disposition of their cases, 44% of the males and 65% of the females were Negroes.

Chicago (15% Negro). In 1956 twice as many Negroes as whites—1,366 to 679—were arrested on charges of murder, non-negligent manslaughter, rape and robbery.

Detroit (25% Negro). Two out of three prisoners held in the Wayne County jail are Negroes. Last month 62% of. the defendants presented for trial in Recorder's Court were Negroes. Of last year's 25,216 arrests resulting in prosecution, excluding traffic cases, Negroes accounted for 12,919.

Los Angeles (13% Negro). In 1956 Negroes accounted for 28% of all arrests, and 48% of the arrests for homicide, rape, aggravated assault, robbery, burglary, larceny and auto theft.

San Francisco (7% Negro). The victims in 896 of last year's 1,564 recorded robbery cases reported that the assailants were Negroes.

Negro leaders sometimes argue passionately that arrest statistics wildly distort the comparative incidence of crime among Negroes and whites because cops are more likely to arrest Negroes for petty crimes or on mere suspicion. Protests Executive Editor Charles Wartman of Detroit's Michigan Chronicle, a Negro weekly: "The number of Negroes booked is at least partially indicative of subconscious if not conscious racial persecution on

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,810262,00.html#ixzz1ZKsmyE28

Dissident said...

If that Racist (TM) can't form any original thoughts other than than the usual RACIST (TM) talking points then don't give her any bandwidth on here Paul.

Is she can present a well reasoned argument then that's another thing. So far, she's just spouting nonsense.

Desiree, please bring something of substance to this table, or else leave.

Anonymous said...

And 90 percent of murders committed by Blacks are against other Blacks. Blacks are more likely to BE murdered than anyone else in the USA despite only making up 12% of the population. You say Whites are not safe around Blacks. I am going to piggyback off of your logic for a moment. If Whites are not safe around Blacks, then it is fitting to say that Blacks are not safe around Blacks either even more so, seeing as Blacks get murdered more than anyone else in the USA, and mostly by other Black people.

As near as I can tell,no one is safe around blacks. Which is why I advocate separation of the races.

Van said...

Evergreen: "If Whites are not safe around Blacks, then it is fitting to say that Blacks are not safe around Blacks"

So? What exactly is your point?

Are you saying that blacks should get to be around whites because they aren't safe around other blacks? But then the whites won't be safe. Why should we suffer, when its you and your people who can't create a stable, low crime society. If we took only the "good" blacks, many of your children would not be so (at a much higher rate than white children) and in a few generations, we'd be in the same place. It is impossible to separate the good from the bad, and maintain that separation over time.

This is why race does matter; and why it always will. Introduce blacks into an all white society, and the standard of living goes down for the whites, while going up for the blacks.

Why must we drag you along? Why should our cities, communities, and schools suffer? What do you bring to the table that makes it worth it? Show me I'm wrong - why is it good FOR ME to have blacks around?

Anonymous said...

Does this mean we're supposed to believe someone actually named her Desiree? What a sad name for an obese cunt who has never in her life been desired as more than a temporary hole to cum in. If that even.

Van said...

I just realized exactly what Evergreen is saying with his various comments ("what about blacks," "blacks aren't safe around blacks either," and "how does that help black people").

He's indicating that whites SHOULD absorb black dysfunction - basically that we should spread it to more of the country, dilute it, so that life for the average black person will be improved. So what if the quality of life for everyone else goes down?

If blacks fully integrate into white societies, many of those murder victims will be white, decreasing the odds of being murdered for a black person. Its not fair that whites can get away from black people but blacks can't.

Evergreen, this is why even the "good" blacks really aren't. When push comes to shove, all you care about is the well-being of blacks - even at the expense of others. You'll deny it, probably even to yourself. But its plainly obvious from your comments. You're afrocentric views are so ingrained that you've actually come to a forum dedicated to talking about black dysfunction, and possible solutions, and asked, "but how would this help black people?"

Further, the problem is that deep down you, and most afrocentrics, know that blacks can't succeed on their own. You know that the various ghettos nationwide are the best blacks can do on their own. So while you only care about the well-being of blacks, your solutions always involve whites pulling the load.

You're dead weight. An anchor around the neck of civilization. Please take your concerns about blacks directly to the blacks. You won't find your answers here. You won't find acceptance. This site is populated by people that have come to the reality that there is no partnership between blacks and whites. There is only whites being dragged down, out of the civilization we created and into third world dysfunction. Our of order, stability, and comfort. Into chaos and crime.

For decades whites have been willing to entertain the question, "how does this help black people?" We don't have the luxury of caring anymore.

Anonymous said...


Am I a Boer?

If the answer is yes, then MOVE you idiot!


Engineer-

The problem with moving is that it only works some of the time and sometimes when it works,it only works for a limited time.

The Boers did quite well for themselves after the Great Trek. Until some other folk discovered that gold was to be had in the lands that the Boers had settled upon. And what happened then?

If I remember correctly ( and I don't make any claims at having in-depth knowledge of the history of Southern Africa,so I might have some stuff wrong ),when the flood of goldseekers,and and attendant types that lived off the goldseekers arrived,that was pretty much it.

The Boers had already moved to get away from that kind of thing. They couldn't move back,and they couldn't go north much more,due to hostiles,and they couldn't go east because of the Indian Ocean.

We all know that there are still places where we can be born,live,grow old,and die among out own kind,but how much longer will that be the case? And if the Great Good Places here cease to exist,then what? Do we hijack ocean-going vessels and head for Siberia? Having seen some pictures of Kamchatka,the idea has some appeal,but can it really be done? And assuming we make a paradise on earth in Kamchatka,how long would we be left to ourselves?

And moving isn't without hazards either-Blood River is also a part of the Boer legend.

Dissident said...

Evergreen responded: "It means I, a young Black man, have the highest chance of being murdered. "

Okay. So, now your chances of being murdered by a member of your own race is quite high. How is this the fault of white people and what do YOU propose that we as whites go about doing to help resolve this situation?

Do you have any suggestions, other than to live in an all white neighborhood?

For the record Evergreen; it's not my desire or will that any black person be harmed, but I'm at my whits end with you people and your sniveling and your pathetic blaming and whining.

A little introspection is due and some self policing would go a long way in helping race relations.

mr_evergreen said...

"How is this the fault of white people and what do YOU propose that we as whites go about doing to help resolve this situation?"

I never said this was the fault of White people. I was just telling it like it is. I said what I said because the way people put it, Blacks are some kind of inherent predator that only harms people and can never be harmed. I resent that because it isn't true. Black people have been harmed and killed alot, by Blacks and by Whites. In Los Angeles some of the Hispanic gangs are murdering African-Americans, not just the gangs, but the civilians too. I can only do so much. The best I can so is to "snitch" as some people call it. Blacks policing Blacks, at the present moment, requires people to listen. Middle class Blacks will police each other and listen to each other more. The Black people who behave like thugs won't listen because of the attitude. It is the attitude of "you act White" or "you're an Uncle Tom". There are Black people trying. Bill Cosby is among them. Michael Nutter, the mayor of Philadelphia, called out his own people, telling them "you're an embarrassment to your race". He called them out. When Cosby called people out, he was hated for it for a while. There are regular Black people, and then there are thugs. Regular Black people, like me, will police themselves. Regular Black people are more likely to police each other much more than thugs, because the thugs have a mentality of "look out for me, and forget everyone else".

"And assuming we make a paradise on earth in Kamchatka,how long would we be left to ourselves?"

Actually, you can't have Kamchatka. It belongs to Russia. It will not be left to yourselves. People were living there beforehand and, I, a Black man, would like to make a trip there myself. I would like to see the Valley of the Geysers.

Anonymous said...

@ mr_evergreen

" No. Most Whites I've been around don't call it that. I don't call it that either. I call it self-inflicted genocide that needs to stop. The murder statistic I just listed also says this: It means I, a young Black man, have the highest chance of being murdered. "


Well, this is not OUR PROBLEM, this issue should be resolved among your brethren. Why should we care, your kind certainly doesn't.

Anonymous said...

Mr. Evergreen, keep your black ass out of Russia.

You aren't wanted and you'll get skull cracked open. Real talk.

Anonymous said...

"It means I, a young Black man, have the highest chance of being murdered."

If you are concerned about black-on-black crime (aka black birth control), you should be discussing it with other blacks.

Anonymous said...

Actually, you can't have Kamchatka. It belongs to Russia. It will not be left to yourselves. People were living there beforehand and, I, a Black man, would like to make a trip there myself. I would like to see the Valley of the Geysers.

Funny thing...I'm not all that old,and I can remember when people lived-and lived pretty prosperously and peaceably in places like Detroit,and Chicago,and Atlanta,and Philadelphia,and all kinds of other places.

Dissident said...

Evergreen, I can relate to the dilemma you present.

BUT.....you need to realize that not everyone on this blog hates black people, I for one certainly do not. I hate the actions of many and I hate the general attitude of many, and I resent the culture of criminality and the hip-hop persona that so many blacks seem to embrace.

I think I understand your position on the black community and their failure to be reasonable with you perhaps. You're in a pickle, the same way that many poor whites are, because they're too poor to move out of crime ridden, hostile neighborhoods. We all have a cross to bear don't we?

You seem reasonable to me on some issues and unreasonable on others. I don't see consistency in your logic. I think you have to break the PC brainwashing and accept the fact that whites AREN'T the cause of all black pathology and problems.

I don't even think we're the cause of a tiny portion of them, unless you consider the white liberals to be the problem, in that case I'll agree. They enable black dysfunction to a large degree.

Anonymous said...

"BUT.....you need to realize that not everyone on this blog hates black people, I for one certainly do not."

Most here think of blacks the same way they think of wild animals.

They don't "hate" them, they just want to stay as far away from them as possible.

Anonymous said...

Middle class Blacks will police each other and listen to each other more. The Black people who behave like thugs won't listen because of the attitude. It is the attitude of "you act White" or "you're an Uncle Tom".

The irony is that Mr. Evergreen would be a LOT safer if there was a bounty on thugs.  They would be afraid to show their faces, and Mr. Evergreen could benefit himself thrice over by bagging a few:  there would be fewer thugs, he'd be wealthier by the amount of the bounties, and the thugs would do their best to stay away from him.

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Anonymous said...

Anon 8:18. Ohhh lawdy lawdy, it be de big bad joo-man gwine get yo ass! Lawdy, lawdy!

Please.

You sound no different from the sniveling negroes who are on and on about the white man being the cause of everything from AIDS to the heartbreak of psoriasis.

Grow up.

mr_evergreen said...

"Anon 8:18. Ohhh lawdy lawdy, it be de big bad joo-man gwine get yo ass! Lawdy, lawdy!

Please.

You sound no different from the sniveling negroes who are on and on about the white man being the cause of everything from AIDS to the heartbreak of psoriasis.

Grow up."

So you respond to me by insults. I haven't insulted you or made crass comments about you. I don't agree with much of what gets said here, but I don't insult people or use profanity here.

Van said...

Honest question, Evergreen:

How old are you?

Discard said...

Van: On one post or another, mr evergreen has said that he is in college. He's just a kid.

Van said...

Discard: I wouuld have guessed high school based on my perception of his emotional and intellectual maturity. But I probably give coollege students too much credit

Dissident said...

Most college students that I've come across in recent years have heads full of liberal/socialist mush and PC indoctrination.

They are for all intent and purposes little, brain-dead lemmings, that can do nothing more than regurgitate PC/multicult nonsense.

We're in a pathetic state of existence, wherein these fools profess to be wise, but aren't smart enough to wipe their @$$e$ with their diploma's.

College education (except in hard sciences) has become a joke.

Van said...

Dissident:

Yeah, I didn't know squat about the real world when I was in college. I had little questions about the standard liberal worldview as early as jr. high school, but it didn't really come together until much later.

Evergreen:

Since you're a young guy, I apologize for the personal insults. But, honestly, you are naive and have a lot to learn about reality. For starters, I recommend taking some statistics courses and thinking about how some basic concepts like averages, distributions, and probability mind apply to various human populations

Anonymous said...

Van: "For starters, I recommend taking some statistics courses and thinking about how some basic concepts like averages, distributions, and probability mind apply to various human populations"

I attended a well known university with over 12,000 undergraduates. I graduated with an engineering degree and took a lot of stats classes. Not once in four years had I ever seen a black guy in one of my statistics classes.

Anonymous said...

Ret'd LAPD here. For Mr Evergreen and all other doubters, apologists and excusers of black misbehavior, I recommend buying a radio scanner and having it programmed with your local police radio frequencies. Although these people continue to yammer about "whites commit crimes too" and other drivel, all will be revealed when you start to notice every violent call that dispatchers put out to units in the field always have descriptors such as BMA (black male adult) and BMJ (black male juvenile). This ain't racism either yo. It is the description of a suspect based on witnesses and victims telling the dispatchers what their attacker looks like.

mr_evergreen said...

"Since you're a young guy, I apologize for the personal insults. But, honestly, you are naive and have a lot to learn about reality. For starters, I recommend taking some statistics courses and thinking about how some basic concepts like averages, distributions, and probability mind apply to various human populations"

Apology accepted.

I did take a statistics class in college. The statistics still do not serve the individual. I might know the average and the statistic, but how would it serve me as an individual?

Anonymous said...

I might know the average and the statistic, but how would it serve me as an individual?

You're already exploiting it.  You're doing your best to stay away from low-class Blacks, aren't you?

You have certainly been the beneficiary of AA and diversity preferences.  Now return the favor, by helping to dismantle the legal institutions which push the Black Undertow into White areas... and not incidentally make White people associate your presence with it.

Silent Running said...

I've gotta differ with you on the double ought. It's my second favorite. My all time favorite is #4 buck.

Now you've done it, Jim. Sounds like I'll be laying in some #4 for my next trip to the range.

Those who have recoil-sensitive individuals in their homes (women, children, slightly-built men, etc.) might also want to consider the 20 gauge. It has considerably less recoil than the 12, but is still a very good stopper, at least at in-house range.

Actually, a good autoloader like the Mossberg 930 series will absorb a significant amount of the recoil while preserving the hitting power of the 12 gauge (I'm not a big guy myself, so these considerations are my considerations). With low-recoil shells you should be able to put all rounds on target very rapidly. If only the five in Wichita had had one...

Van said...

Evergreen: "I did take a statistics class in college. The statistics still do not serve the individual. I might know the average and the statistic, but how would it serve me as an individual?"

Most of what is talked about here comes down to averages and probability.

Of course not all black people are stupid. But the average intelligence is lower, and appears follow a normal distribution. This explains why blacks have never built or sustained civilization beyond Stone Age technology. The "not all blacks are stupid" argument is irrelevant. Its groups of people who effect civilizations. A single person, no matter how incompetent, won't do much harm (unless you make him president for some reason). But when you allow a large number in, the standard of living falls. It happens every time with blacks.

Of course not all blacks are violent. But violence is much more common, as well as more severe. A black community is always more dangerous than a corresponding white one. A very effective way to avoid being the victim of a violent crime is to avoid blacks. No amount of "not all blacks are violent" will change this statistical fact.

It sounds very noble to claim we should judge each person individually. But you'll find that (a) this is impossible, and (b) you already don't.

There simply is not enough time in the day to stop and get to know everyone. Many extremely dangerous people are quite charming at first. Your own safety (and in time, that of your family) should far outweigh someone else's hurt feelings for being "prejudged."

Let's take the example of the NYC cab driver. Black men age 15-35 are responsible for nearly 90% of all violent attacks on cab drivers. Blacks are about 25% of the population of NYC, so males in this age group would probably be about 10% of the population. A cab driver has no way of knowing who will attack and who won't. But he can reduce his odds of being assaulted by 90% while only eliminating 10% of his potential customer base, and therefore having no loss of business.

Under the circumstances, it would be stupid NOT to avoid black males in that age group. And if I was a cab driver, your hurt feelings at getting passed by wouldn't even come close to the importance of my safety and ability to provide for my family.

That's just one example. As I mentioned on another thread, every single one of my supposedly "good and educated" black co-workers has said something ridiculous about supposed racism in politics, how black crime is a myth, how blacks really invented (insert myth here).

Even the "good" ones are typically hostile.

Simon Jester said...

Actually, a good autoloader like the Mossberg 930 series will absorb a significant amount of the recoil while preserving the hitting power of the 12 gauge (I'm not a big guy myself, so these considerations are my considerations). With low-recoil shells you should be able to put all rounds on target very rapidly.

This is true enough, but just remember that autoloaders are notoriously unreliable with those low-recoil loads that you're talking about. Whatever load you decide to use, be sure to test it extensively in your gun to make sure it will function reliably.

Zenster said...

mr_evergreen: I don't call it [Black-on-Black murder] that either. I call it self-inflicted genocide…

Sweet merciful crap! Don't you realize what a searing indictment that happens to be of whatever it is that passes for Black culture?

A "self-inflicted genocide" instantly connotes the complete and total inability of a people to survive. End of line. Full stop. Period.

This is made obvious, not just here in America, but wherever Black people are given access to modern civilization much less on their own turf in Hutu-Tutsi Rwandan Africa.

Why on earth should Whites feel obligated in any way to attempt the rehabilitation of such such a dysfunctional mindset?

Please don't appeal to any sense of humanity. Was any humanity shown to Carissa Horton and Ethan Nichols or Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom, the latter pair BOTH being tortured, raped and murdered? Do not Blacks murder any White sense of humanity with endless brutal crimes of this sort?

If it were possible for Whites to merely step back and let Blacks visit upon themselves the logical extent of their almost congenital criminality, do you really demand that they feel the least moral culpability for doing so? Instead, we are almost forced to share, cheek by jowl, American society with such overwhelmingly criminal types.

Time and again, those who seek to uplift the benighted Black race end up perishing as thanks for their troubles. Think honors student, Catherine "Kate" Puzey. What lesson should we Whites be taking away from that sort of abject ingratitude?

As Van continues to repeatedly ask you (without reply), what is the ostensibly invaluable contribution of Blacks that cannot be obtained with less danger or grief from other Whites?

You steadfastly refuse to respond to Van's rather salient question in thread after thread here at SBPDL. Your thundering silence is beginning to wear a bit thin.

Again, why in Hell should Whites intervene with respect to the "self-inflicted genocide" being committed by Blacks? We have enough trouble being demographically displaced by Blacks, Hispanics and Muslims as it is, not to mention a suicidal abortion rate.

As Napoleon so famously said, "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake." In light of the intensely predatory nature of Black crime in America, please give me one good reason why Whites should intervene in ― what you have so appropriately identified as ― Black America's "self-inflicted genocide"?

Zenster said...

Anonymous (September 28, 2011 8:27 PM): I thought Moonbat Desiree was banned from this blog??

Hey, just chalk it up to the way that Conservative blogs more often show genuine respect for true Freedom of Speech than any Liberal versions.

Please let me know when you find a Liberal blog that does not edit all opposing viewpoints.

Zenster said...

Van: Are you saying that blacks should get to be around whites because they aren't safe around other blacks? But then the whites won't be safe. Why should we suffer, when its you and your people who can't create a stable, low crime society?

There you go again, asking those dang-nabbed difficult questions.

Keep up the good work!

Zenster said...

Van: Please take your concerns about blacks directly to the blacks. You won't find your answers here. You won't find acceptance. This site is populated by people that have come to the reality that there is no partnership between blacks and whites. There is only whites being dragged down, out of the civilization we created and into third world dysfunction. [emphasis added]

There you go again! Asking those difficult questions. You should be ashamed / proud.

Anonymous said...

Uggh! Black cities, towns, neighborhoods, whatever, they are all crime ridden dumps. If you can afford it, just move to an island or peninsula that requires you to pay a toll to get across the bridge, because at least these animals can't pay a toll with an EBT card.

These mongoloids don't like water anyway, so at least when the SHTF, you won't have to worry too much about hordes of black zombies trying to steal your stockpile of food. That's if they can even get past all the heavily armed citizens protecting their towns, which will definitely be the case in my area.

mr_evergreen said...

"These mongoloids don't like water anyway, so at least when the SHTF, you won't have to worry too much about hordes of black zombies trying to steal your stockpile of food. That's if they can even get past all the heavily armed citizens protecting their towns, which will definitely be the case in my area"

I'm Black and I like water. I learned how to swim when I was five years old, and there are ways I can learn how to sail a boat.

Anonymous said...

Evergreen: "I'm Black and I like water."

This imbecile is like a broken record. WE GET IT. You don't identify with the rest of the black population. That doesn't disprove that a higher percentage of blacks can't swim compared to other groups. BTW, sailing is not easy. I once saw a light skinned negro try to navigate an old Hobie Cat by himself. His friend let him try it, but he tipped predictably tipped over, and was visibly traumatized when they had to pull him from the water.

mr_evergreen said...

"This imbecile is like a broken record. WE GET IT. You don't identify with the rest of the black population. That doesn't disprove that a higher percentage of blacks can't swim compared to other groups. BTW, sailing is not easy. I once saw a light skinned negro try to navigate an old Hobie Cat by himself. His friend let him try it, but he tipped predictably tipped over, and was visibly traumatized when they had to pull him from the water"

Wow, just keep insulting me. By the way, I never said learning how to sail was easy, but I can learn. There are Black people who have learned how to sail.My point is that going out to an island won't stop some Black from getting there. What do you do about the Black people who can swim, sail, and like water?

Anonymous said...

evergreen is the now the "New Desiree"! He's such a goddamn bore, I can't stand how he plays "thick"!

Always retorting with : well I know one Black person who doesn't * enter *( Act in such fashion, or seem to fit the patterns, behavior, genetic tendencies etc...your describing when referring to US ).

It's always about HIM and His infinitesimal group of EXCEPTIONS. You guys are wasting your time trying to educate him, he's just an another lonely Troll.

Honestly, I would vote to have him banned like our precious Desi.

mr_evergreen said...

Just because I disagree with you doesn't make me a troll.

Anonymous said...

What do you do about the Black people who can swim, sail, and like water?

If they can accept civilization welcome them.

Anonymous said...

mr_evergreen

As I said, you're *thick*. You DON'T comprehend the laws of average, plus your attempt at refuting precious information that is handed to you on a silver platter that you thoroughly discard, has become a drag.
You persisting in pointing out, as I said your lot of infinitesimal EXCEPTIONS regarding blacks, that alone puts you in the Troll category.
You cannot substantiate your claims and what you point out has been debated here already, it's just a case of you refusing to acknowledge the truth. Your a "Troll" mainly for that reason.
I suggest you move on & explore other blogs. There are too many well-meaning individuals here whiling to listen to your grievances by addressing your every questions, I suggest you at least reciprocate instead of getting in the defensive mode.

mr_evergreen said...

"If they can accept civilization welcome them"

We have reached an agreement. I am the type of person who likes a peaceful society where no one is killing each other. A society where I am treated no different than anyone else and where I can contribute.

Anonymous said...

"What do you do about the Black people who can swim, sail, and like water? "

why do we have to worry about them? How is that our responsibility? What are you doing to stem the tide of black on white/asian violence?

mr_evergreen said...

"why do we have to worry about them? How is that our responsibility? What are you doing to stem the tide of black on white/asian violence?"

Well, I'm not contributing to violence. When I was a crime victim, I called the police, and later testified against the criminal.

Anonymous said...

"Well, I'm not contributing to violence."

Well, I'm not contributing white on black violence. So can we agree that we don't owe each other anything more beyond that?

Zenster said...

mr_evergreen: Just because I disagree with you doesn't make me a troll.

Perhaps not but spouting so many traditional Black and Liberal talking points certainly makes you seem like one. I happen to believe, despite whatever misguided notions you may have, that you are sincere.

That does not relieve you of the obligation to address polite and reasonable questions which are put to you here. Selectively answering those questions is a hallmark of disingenuous types and, as you can see, they are given short shrift at SBPDL.

I have yet to see you provide any response regarding Van's legitimate question as to what indispensable commodity it is that Blacks furnish modern society which cannot be gotten from Whites with far less risk or toleration of sullen attitudes.

Please feel free to answer that one. I join Van in being curious about what your reply will be.

mr_evergreen said...

Please feel free to answer that one. I join Van in being curious about what your reply will be"

I will answer. Black people have made contributions to science for the time that they have been here in the USA. Garrett A. Morgan invented the gas mask. Elijah McCoy invented a lubrication system for. The fire escape ladder was invented by a Black man. Think of the lives saves with fire escapes. George Washington Carver found over 200 uses for the peanut(not peanut butter though) and helped to revolutionize agriculture in the South. Lloyd Hall was a scientist that invented multiple ways of sterilizing foods and spices. Scientist Dr. Charles Drew discovered blood plasma. This helped to preserve blood longer. This was important for WWII. Black people have contributed more to the USA than many people would think. Thomas Edison did invent the light bulb, but African-American inventor Lewis Latimer helped improve it by inventing the carbon filament.

Dissident said...

Hey Evergreen, do you think that whites can be positive role models for black youth and if so could you name some whites that you view as positive role models?

Or could you at least name some black role models for whites and blacks to admire, I'm curious?

Thank you.

I'm talking in more of a contemporary sense here, not in dead men, but men that are still very much alive.

Van said...

Evergreen:

The majority of your examples are lies that have been fed to you to pump up your self esteem. Google "black invention myths" for a dose of reality.

In addition, it is true for the majority of minor innovations (whether the inventor was black, white, or other), that the innovation was inevitable, and would have been developed eventually. So while a black man did invent a device to help elevator doors close automatically (but not the elevator itself), eventually someone else would have if he hadn't.

While this does not discredit the inventiveness of the individual (again, regardless of race), to assume that there would not be automatically closing doors - and that people would be falling to their deaths with regularity - if not for this one person, is rather absurd.

Most minor inventions seem rather obvious in hindsight, and would've been invented by someone eventually.

Major innovations, of course, are a different story. I'm not aware of any black contributions that one could reasonably argue we could not do without.

Also, as you may have noticed, the majority of innovation is cumulative - building on past innovation with minor changes, improvements, and adaptations. Only in the context of white society has the rare black person been able to contribute. Left to themselves, there isn't enough intellectual capital for blacks to maintain modern society, much less improve it.

mr_evergreen said...

"The majority of your examples are lies that have been fed to you to pump up your self esteem. Google "black invention myths" for a dose of reality"

Are you sure what you're telling me isn't a lie?

Anonymous said...

mr_evergreen

"Are you sure what you're telling me isn't a lie?"

The "Black Inventor Myth" was manufactured for Black History Month. It's a promotional tool aimed at making Blacks appear smarter than they truly are.
No wonder you believe in this carefully crafted fallacy!
everspleen could you take a break from this site? Most of us here do not find you very entertaining nor particularly smart.

Black Inventors are an invention, LOl!

Van said...

Evergreen: "Are you sure what you're telling me isn't a lie?"

http://www.snopes.com/business/origins/blackinv.asp

http://www33.brinkster.com/iiiii/inventions/

Start with these two. Do your own research if you want more verification. Honestly, I've gotten worn out with you. You are either very good at playing naive, and intentionally toying with people; or you really are naive, and possibly lacking in the intellectual ability/honesty to confront the issues of which you keep asking questions.

If you're being genuine, and you are honestly attempting to engage in debate, you are totally out of your league. You're dealing with people mostly in their 30s and above, with real world experience, a proper education in and understanding of basic (or beyond) statistics and research methodology, and above average intelligence.

You are young, still in college and lacking real world experience, little to no understanding of statistics (demonstrated by your posts), and average intelligence (you can tell a lot by one's writing style).

If you think you will challenge anyone's beliefs, you're wrong. If you think you have anything to say that hasn't already been refuted, you're wrong. You're bringing junior high school level thought to a conversation with people who have master's degrees in science and research.

If you're questions are genuine, and you are open to the premise of this blog, stick around. If you are offended by the opinions and facts you read here, and think you'll defeat anyone in debate, you'll only end up discouraged and demoralized. If the latter, I recommend closing your browser, deleting your history, and never coming back.

This blog is not good for a black kid that doesn't want to see the reality of his people.

mr_evergreen said...

Van, I have another link for you to look at: http://inventors.about.com/od/blackinventors/a/black_myths.htm

What do you want me to say? Do you want me to say that Black people are inherently stupid and aren't capable of anything?

Anonymous said...

If black people continue to insist that the reason their neighborhoods are African hellholes is because the Irish, Italians, Germans, Koreans, Chinese, Indians, Turks, Argentinians, etc. are somehow conspiring to keep the secret of success out of reach of blacks due to inherent racist attitudes, then yes, you should say that blacks are inherently stupid. But if you can admit that black pathology is the main driver of black underachievement, then we can have a conversation. We're still waiting for you to answer the question of what it is that blacks contribute to society that outweighs their pathologies. Don't bore us with black invention myths. Tell me, what is your major in college? Is it computer science? Or is it Afrocentric Studies? Another poster brilliantly described that field as a political agenda disguised as an academic discipline for blacks. Our resident troll, Fat Desiree, claimed to be a bio-chem major but I assume she gave up and switched to Afrocentric studies, when she realized that she couldn't compete with the Dieter's and Rajah's in her classes.

Anonymous said...

@ everspleen

"What do you want me to say? Do you want me to say that Black people are inherently stupid and aren't capable of anything? "

I would have to agree on that one, yes the large majority of Blacks are inherently quite limited and don't usually amount to a whole lot in life.
Affirmative Action is another failure, since most of it's recipients are grossly under-qualified, and cannot perform adequately most tasks whites could take on hands down.

mr_evergreen said...

" Tell me, what is your major in college? Is it computer science? Or is it Afrocentric Studies?"

Actually, it's geography and I am seeking to get into environmental science as a second degree. I have never taken any courses on Afro-centric studies.

Anonymous said...

"Are you sure what you're telling me isn't a lie?"

If blacks are these engineering geniuses, why is it that blacks are nowhere to be seen in math and science classes in college. Don't even start with the one or two exceptions you will inevitably cite. They aren't even in the same league with the kids who got into universities on their own merit, instead of matriculating as diversity admits (don't you wonder why Obama is the only US president to not disclose his academic record?). If blacks are the briliant architects of the pyramids and math/geometry, why did they all of a sudden abandon them and decide to forget all their vast knowledge to go back to living in mud huts in sub-Saharan Africa. If Hannibal, a military genius, was really black as Afrocentrists like to claim, why do contemporary statues of him depict him as caucasian? Why did modern Egyptians bristle at the casting of Lou Gossett Jr. as Anwar Sadat in that biopic movie? You can try to claim that anyone who is not black is trying to disinherit blacks of their great achievements due to racism, but that is exactly the reason why you will never better yourself..... You got your head too far up your ass.

mr_evergreen said...

"I would have to agree on that one, yes the large majority of Blacks are inherently quite limited and don't usually amount to a whole lot in life.
Affirmative Action is another failure, since most of it's recipients are grossly under-qualified, and cannot perform adequately most tasks whites could take on hands down"

I beg to differ. If I were to really believe that Black people were inherently limited in what they could do, then I would have to believe that about myself, and that would mean having a defeatist mentality. How can a person do anything if they don't believe they can do anything?

Furthermore, White women are the largest beneficiaries of affirmative action.

Van said...

Evergreen:

I have no idea what you think that link adds to the conversation. Again, your inability to comprehend basic statistic al concepts is apparent. Your previous question, "how does it (statistics) serve the individual?" is telling . It doesn't; and this is irrelevant. You might as well ask how NASA is good for fleas.

That a handful of blacks have demonstrated intelligence tells us nothing about blacks in general. Averages and distributions serve that purpose. What's telling is how rare innovation is among blacks; and especially black societies.

Predictive value is a strong indicator of validity of a hypothesis. Consider what you would expect if black and white intelligence were equal or different (group level average), then look at historical and current situations. Which has the stronger predictive value?

Now, that's all for me; I've humored you enough. The topics discussed here are beyond your comprehension. Ultimately, I don't care to convince you. If I had my way, I would never have to come into contact with you in any forum - real or virtual. It improves my safety and sanity.

Anonymous said...

@ everboring

"Furthermore, White women are the largest beneficiaries of affirmative action. "

Wow, even everspleen is serving us the same rehashed garbage as Desiree!

The largest beneficiaries of AA are NOW Black & only Black. Why don't you beat it?? You're so much like that Crazy Chubby Mulatto who was booted from this blog a little while ago.
And for someone who claims to be a student, you certainly spend a whole amount of time posting your drivel on this site. Get a life & stop being a nuisance!

Mr. Rational said...

OMG, I just realized something.

The accomplishments of a society depend partly on the average, but rely a great deal on the most brilliant members and what they can create for the rest to reproduce.  For instance, it only takes one Nicola Tesla to give the world electric systems from continent-spanning electric grids to fractional-horsepower motors with one moving part and no contacts... as long as the public at large is smart enough to support and produce instances of those inventions.

Black people seem unusually susceptible to the Big Man phenomenon:  whoever is the Big Man in a given Black area gets everyone to follow him, like a tribe.  ("Unity in the community!")  Black people will follow the Big Man even when he is wrong, or crazy.

White people are far more individualistic than Black people.  White societies since the Enlightenment are characterized by far greater levels of debate, dissent and skepticism... and White societies have largely kept peace locally despite this while maintaining historically unprecedented rates of positive change.  We produce Teslas, try out the stuff they make, and adopt it if it makes sense, adapt it if we can, dump it if it doesn't work.

All of this was achieved by by following reason instead of the Big Man, and the major social catastrophes of the 20th century—Marxism-Leninism, Naziism and Maoism—were throwbacks to the Big Man model.  So are innumerable smaller failures, including The People's Temple and Heaven's Gate.

This suggests that a society cannot progress unless its members subjugate social conformity to individual reason and debate.  White people have passed the test.  East Asians seem balanced on the cusp, and Blacks can't even get to the exam room on time.

Van said...

Mr. Rational: "The accomplishments of a society depend partly on the average, but rely a great deal on the most brilliant members and what they can create for the rest to reproduce."

Related to this, those on the far right of the distribution must carry the load for those on the far left. There is a point on the distribution where one is dead weight, and a point where one carries the dead weight. These points would be relatively stable, regardless of the average of the population. With the lower average IQ of blacks, the entire distribution is shifted to the left, putting a higher percentage of the population in the dead weight category while reducing the number of carriers.

For ease of computation, let's say anyone below 70 is dead weight and anyone above 115 is a carrier. For whites, this would be 2.5% dead weight and 16.5% carriers. For blacks, the numbers are reversed - 16.5% dead weight to only 2.5% carriers.

For whites, each dead weight individual would have 6.6 carriers to pull him along. But for blacks, there are 6.6 dead weights dragging down each carrier.

In black societies, simply maintaining the basic tasks - procuring food and shelter - takes all the intellectual energy of even the most intelligent, because there are so many who can't consistently and efficiently take care of themselves.

There's also the fact that true innovation occurs mainly above 130 - 2.5% for whites; less than 0.1% for blacks.

If the greatest innovations occur above 145, your talking about less than 0.1% of whites, and essentially non-existent for blacks.

Anonymous said...

If the greatest innovations occur above 145, your talking about less than 0.1% of whites, and essentially non-existent for blacks.

It all depends whether Desiree took the Stanford-Binet intelligence test or The Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale! ;)

mr_evergreen said...

"Wow, even everspleen is serving us the same rehashed garbage as Desiree!"

Call me names all you want, but I'm telling you the truth.

Anonymous said...

evergreen

" Call me names all you want, but I'm telling you the truth. "

I'm not calling you name, I'm making a factual observation. You tell the truth? I never heard anything truthful coming from you so far. Keep on working on that, lying to yourself will not benefit you in the end.

Anonymous said...

"Here is my plan. Find the perps, imprison them for a while, allow carry concealed weapons, and have more police on the streets in all areas to keep an eye on everyone."

Mr Evergreen, you obviously have no clue. I'm a white man who was born in the Olney section of Philadelphia, directly across the boulevard from North Philadelphia.

The violence that I've been a victim to and a witness to in my life is staggering, on a basis relative to your average USA citizen. None of it has ever been initiated by whites.

You can scan the blog here for a taste of the crime that I live with, as this site does a good job of keeping up with Philly crime for the most part. Oh, but did you fellas get the story about the black teens that recently robbed a white couple and raped the girl behind a house, forcing her boyfriend to watch, at gunpoint? That was recently. Blacks here are 40% of the population and commit 80% of the murders.

Where do you live that you believe your solution to be any solution at all? That's like trying to huff and puff away a category five hurricane. It has no effect. The problem is with the group behavior.

You ask us to care about the blacks that want to live away from the thugs? Why should we care about them? Not out problem, because your community is your problem. Your failure to raise your children correctly is your responsibility, as a group. We suffer at the hands of your criminals because of your failure to be an effective community in any significant number. If it wa up to me, Id force EVERY middle class peace loving black family to live in amongst the thugs until you are forced to make your communities better, at least to the relatively non-violent level of poor white communities. Having the behaved, normal black people run away from the bad ones insures that the problem will never resolve itself and black communities will never be successful, ever. You have to at least try, and can;t expect white people to respect or accept you if you do not.