Sunday, March 20, 2011

Curfew Ordinances and Black people: an Open Question to David Love

Lost in the horror stories of endless suffering in Japan was this tragic story of 30 students who waited patiently for their parents to arrive and pick them up from school. They never came and the students never moved.

David A. Love, the executive editor of Blackcommentator.com, wrote that the reason Black people rioted after Katrina an the Japanese remained calm in a situation infinitely more horrifying came down to simple economics.

We at SBPDL disagree with this view completely, understanding that Blackwater was needed to restore order to New Orleans in 2005 for the same reason that those students requiring school discipline around the United States are disproportionately Black.

Blackwater's (or, as it is currently know, XE) presence was unnecessary in Japan following the tsunami for the same reason that school discipline is largely a superfluous idea when it comes to Asian students.

Recall previously when we discussed the movie The Crazies and the strange rate of Black-on-Black (and Black-on-white, Black-on-Asian, and Black-on-Hispanic) crime that doesn't in real life require the release of a military pathogen to occur. In that horror film, it took a  destabilizing virus inadvertently released into an all-white community in Iowa to bring chaos, murder and mayhem where rarely it is found.

Even in the top Black county in America, Prince Georges County, murder, crime and mayhem transpire without provocation.

Normally after a major disaster or during wartime, the local, state, or national government will declare a curfew to keep unnecessary personnel off the streets. Trying to restore order in the face of tragedy is only amplified when people roam around at night, requiring policing of these areas to stave off looters and keeping people away from damaged areas. Under such circumstances, why strain precious human resources when the national emergency, disaster, or wartime effort is already pushing the allocation of such resources to the breaking point?

Why strain resources when the national emergency, disaster or wartime effort is already pushing the allocation of resources to the breaking point?

In the United States, however, curfews are not only mandated during times of national distress but also during times when the Black population in an area becomes fractious.

Curfew laws in towns as geographically diverse as Galveston, Texas; Helena, Arkansas; Greensboro, North Carolin; Jonesboro, Georgia; Cleveland, Ohio; and Iowa City, Iowa all are needed to keep a potentially Black criminal element off of the streets. Normally reserved for such times as war or restoring order after a natural disaster, curfew laws are needed in times of relative peace because of the Black population found in cities that such laws will disproportionately target:
Minorities have received more than half the citations and warnings for juvenile curfew violations in Iowa City since the law was first enforced in March.

Twenty-two of the 40 contacts made by police officers from March through November were with minorities, according to statistics provided by the Iowa City Police Department. Sixteen were black, and six were classified as white-Hispanics. The rest were white.

Iowa City is more than 85 percent white, according to the U.S. Census Bureau, although the juvenile population is more diverse, with minority students making up 32 percent of the Iowa City school district’s enrollment.

The racial disparity seen in the curfew violations was not a surprise to Iowa City Police Chief Sam Hargadine, who warned more than a year ago, when the City Council was debating the curfew, that it may happen. He said it wouldn’t be because officers were prejudiced but rather the result of the calls to which they responded.

He reiterated that earlier this month.

“There’s nothing that says the number of juveniles who were out after dark have to be reflective of the population,” he said.

The curfew has won the backing of a former critic who works primarily with black kids and last year worried the curfew was aimed at them.

Henri Harper said more important than the statistics is the positive relationship between kids and the police that he believes the curfew has helped build through better communication.

“I think people realize that they didn’t just want the black kids off the street; they wanted kids off the street,” said Harper, director of FasTrac, an academic and cultural support program for young people.

Curfew starts at midnight for 16- and 17-year-olds, 11 p.m. for 14- and 15-year-olds, and 10 p.m. for those 13 and younger. There are exceptions for things like work, school activities and being accompanied by a responsible adult.

The City Council approved the curfew in December 2009 with a 4-3 vote after a months-long debate. Police officers did not start issuing citations until March.

A curfew proposal arose after a few large fights, among other problems, in southeast Iowa City earlier in 2009. Race was part of the debate, and the council wrote into the law a requirement that demographic and other data be reviewed annually, so it’d be known if certain groups of people or areas of town were overrepresented.

Council member Mike Wright, who proposed the annual report and voted for the curfew, said the council will need to discuss why 55 percent of the curfew citations and warnings have been issued to minorities.
“That’s a little bit troubling because, obviously, 55 percent of our population is not minority,” he said. “I don’t know what that means.”
Since Black people commit a disproportionate amount of crime in every city they reside in America, any effort to curb crime will disproportionately target Black people. 

Only in times of national distress are curfew laws needed, be it war or a horrible natural disaster. But in the United States of America, the preponderance of Black criminality necessitates the need for local city councils to enact curfew laws in an attempt to maintain order.

So, Mr. Love of Blackcommentator.com, The question shouldn't be: Why were there no looters in Japan? Instead, the question should be: Why are curfew laws needed in United States cities where there is no natural disaster?

Why, Mr. Love, are curfew laws needed in cities where Black crime is a recurring problem and no earthquake, natural disaster or war is needed to justify the passing of such ordinances?

Curfew ordinances nationwide have been attacked as racist because, it is alleged, such ordinances have the propensity to target Black juveniles. Well, really, it is Black juveniles that tend to violate them.

Where a natural disaster or outbreak of war are not the reason for enacting a curfew, the enactment can only be because crime and disorder are in the main caused by some demographic component.

Do tell us, Mr. Loe, what demographic might that be.


34 comments:

Anonymous said...

When blacks break the law and their numbers mostly make up crime statistics, it is called racist?

How is it racist that you have a minority population committing most of the crime and getting busted for it? Why do blacks think they should get a free pass on committing crime or violating the law? They shouldn't, nor should anyone else.

We really need to start hammering down on this minority population just a little bit harder. If we don't get a handle on this, it is going to be much, much, much worse.

Cry me a river said...

What happened to those kids is nothing less then sad. Hope things work out for them.

David A. Love is just another black that can't handle the truth. Japanese didn't loot because their relatively homogenous and their sense of discipline and order. The truth is "insensitive and bigoted". Like it or not David "black people, no matter where in the world they are, are cursed with a genetic predisposition to steal, murder, and create mayhem.” And when other blacks like Leighton Levy or Larry Elder tell it like it is. They're wrong and it "doesn't cut it". I don't recall such rampant crime among whites during the Great Depression.

Racial profiling is both effective and necessary.

I know a lot of people say the Japan Crisis of 2011 is payback for Pearl Harbor. Dropping 2 nukes is more than payback. It's overkill.

Professor Snape said...

David A. Love, the executive editor of Blackcommentator.com, wrote that the reason Black people rioted after Katrina and that the Japanese remained calm in a situation infinitely more horrifying came down to simple economics.

We at SBPDL disagree with this view completely


I have to agree with David Love, although culture does play a part of it more than he realizes. The culture argument shouldn't be an indictment against blacks because, as he rightly pointed out, poor whites destroyed and looted "Black Wall Street" in Oklahoma. I guess we can debate whether that was racism or privation but I believe it was the typical resentment of the "have-nots".

We should also remember many of the looters in Los Angeles following the Rodney King meshugas were (poor) Hispanics.

The correlation between poverty and looting is pretty strong. I find it interesting that David Love cites Larry Elder's opinion, who says it basically does have to do with black behavior. Call me a cynic but the right has a knack of trotting out it's minority "puppets" to do its "racial" dirty work. God forbid anyone of them says it!

Does Elder view himself as black, or did he get "lucky" and miss expression of the black "looting gene"? I always find it pretty humorous the way a black or Hispanic on the right will naysay their fellow blacks or Hispanics in a completely general fashion but see themselves as unique and individual.

Hell, I guess that's what Fox News is for, a "sometimes" comedy channel.

But Love misses the point on culture. Japan has a very small amount of poor people and a 99% literacy rate. Their culture, unlike American culture, fosters this type of "success". I don't watch Beck often but a night ago he mentioned something called "Ganbatte" (sp?) in the Japanese culture - I don't know if I'm spelling it right. He said it was essentially perseverance in the face of obstacles, no matter what; resilience.

He tried to link it to "American exceptionalism" but that's where we deviate because Japan and America are two different animals. The man's insane.

The Johnson administration years and years ago rightly linked the state of the ghettos and slums to affluent white society and essentially stated that the latter was responsible for the former.

Love could bolster his argument on the economics front - because he is right to an extent - by linking this "black culture" that people blame on looting as being created by the dominant, majority culture here in the States.

Western capitalism has helped shape the ugly side of poverty; they are linked. It's made uglier by institutional racism, which created the poverty of some blacks.

Sad Love doesn't see it, especially when he mentioned whites looting Black Wall Street (who were poor). He shouldn't call it "racism" because it's only observational; whites see poor minorities - blacks - looting, they'll think it has to do with blacks, even if there is documented proof other groups of people do it as well. (I bet if we were all transported back to revolution-era France, we'd think the impoverished French acted like animals; they're not black, but they were poor.)

But blacks are so far-removed from their indigenous cultures (African) that it's more accurate to say that behavior is reflective of America's culture of poverty, which is rooted in the inequality essential to capitalism.

Sorry, I know this was about curfews. If I had my way, all kids would be in bed by nine so they won't get into anything. We were all kids once and I snuck out of the house at least twice a month. :)

Anonymous said...

This is ANOTHER story that needs no further explanation, as everyone knows it is true.

And yet, Diarrhea will argue with it. "Awl peepoo be capesaboo uh breakskins kerfew, an whatnot"

This country is soooo screwed.

Anonymous said...

The only people that deserve justice are the ones who can afford a lawyer. Tax-payer funded lawyers defending Negroids and Negresses too stupid to behave normally is just another form of human oppression.

The Engineer

Jack said...

As someone posted on another site because I can't take credit for it, but it is one of the best statements I've read concerning the Japan/Haiti/New Orleans looting comparisons.

"The Haitians looted even when there was nothing to loot, the Japanese haven't looted and there is plenty to loot. I rest my case."

It is not a simple matter of economics, but genetics.

Anonymous said...

"poor whites destroyed and looted "Black Wall Street" in Oklahoma."

LOLOL A single example from a hundred years ago is your "proof"???

Snape, that's pathetic even by your standards, you should be ashamed.

BTW, the looting in Haiti was accompanied by widespread rape. How exactly does being poor explain rape???

Anonymous said...


Sad Love doesn't see it, especially when he mentioned whites looting Black Wall Street (who were poor). He shouldn't call it "racism" because it's only observational; whites see poor minorities - blacks - looting, they'll think it has to do with blacks, even if there is documented proof other groups of people do it as well. (I bet if we were all transported back to revolution-era France, we'd think the impoverished French acted like animals; they're not black, but they were poor.)


Oddly enough,Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_Race_Riot

Which is pretty PC in its reporting of racial matters,points out that the 1921 riot was instigated by the alleged assault of a young white woman by a black man. It's arguable that this alleged assault happened at all,however a local newspaper got ahold of the story,and what (IMO) touched off the riot was inflammatory reporting. Inflammatory reporting about a white woman being assaulted by a black man. Not something that ever happens in real life,mind you. Anyone who ever watches any mainstream television dramas can attest to the fact that a black man assaulting a white woman is something that can't happen anywhere at any time.

Ex Gladio Libertas

Anonymous said...

Snape has his own standards?

Really?

Are you sure he didn't just borrow Desiree's?

Curfews Be Racist said...

From todays news here in Raleigh, NC:

A (presumed) white man accidentaly hits a black man who is running in the street and when the driver stops to call for help on his cell phone a group of black bystanders pull him from his car and beat him within an inch of his life.

http://www.wral.com/news/news_briefs/story/9298969/

Anonymous said...

Countering Professor Snape's absurdities point-by-point can be done easily, but it's tiresome repeating it time after time, because like all progressives, he will never learn.

Leftist mental activity stops at its memes, tropes, assertions, and cherry-picked outliers... they parrot them once or twice for effect, and are then satisfied that further research, analysis, and logical thinking are unnecessary, basking in the afterglow of their self-righteousness.

Dissident said...

"From todays news here in Raleigh, NC:

A (presumed) white man accidentaly hits a black man who is running in the street and when the driver stops to call for help on his cell phone a group of black bystanders pull him from his car and beat him within an inch of his life.

http://www.wral.com/news/news_briefs/story/9298969/ "

Ungrateful savages! Black America is sowing to the wind and is going to reap the whirlwind! It's exactly this kind of behavior that's really telling. They're just looking for ANY excuse to rape , kill, steal, or pillage! Reminiscent of that trucker in LA that was pulled from his truck and nearly beaten to death for nothing other than just delivering goods to the "hood"! Pathetic! Barbarians and savages is what these people are.

This is why I carry a .45 Glock wherever I go. It's a tool of self defense. I would advise all people reading this to do the same. We live in trying times and this just solidifies that fact in my mind.

I guess the next time you accidently hit a black a person you should just keep going huh? Is that what this story is telling us?

Anonymous said...

"http://www.wral.com/news/news_briefs/story/9298969/"

A group of negroes beat a white guy within inches of his life...and this article FAILS TO MENTION THEIR RACE??????

Could you imagine the media attention if a group of white guys beat a black guy??

SBPDL, you should do a post on this!!

Anonymous said...

When blacks misbehave in a large city (I live on one, 35% black in the inner-city, 98% white everywhere else...), the curfew laws are VERY important for local businesses. Whites who would spend money, avoid downtown because of black miscreants, beggars, misbehavior and crime.

Black teenagers descend onto our downtown mall by the thousands on the evenings and weekends. No shopping, just trespassing, which blacks enjoy as entertainment. The under 21 black clubs in my town are always a nuisance. Any time when a large group of blacks congregate, there are large brawls, fighting and shooting, especially during the Black Expo and other black events.

Curfew laws must be in place in any city where there is a large black population. This cuts into white people's personal liberties. With no black parenting going on, the law steps in for the absent black baby daddy.

Individual personal liberty is ALWAYS limited where there is a large black population. Blacks cannot handle personal freedom. They don't even know how to begin to be free. And yes, I say this from personal experience.

Anonymous said...

This has a lot to do with black people and their tendency to "act a fool", as Desiree told us in an earlier post. Black people have a hard time controlling their impulses, and are violent by nature. Curfew laws protect the rest of us.

Ask any authentically black person, and they will tell you all about blacks "actin' a fool" and they will even laugh about it. They find it humorous, because they don't know anything better.

Whenever you have a large group of blacks, you have violence, destruction of private property, lawlessness, and mayhem.

Anonymous said...

"But blacks are so far-removed from their indigenous cultures (African) that it's more accurate to say that behavior is reflective of America's culture of poverty, which is rooted in the inequality essential to capitalism"

You are a self-appointed handler of the blacks, Snape. LOL, your statement really cracks me up. Blacks are NOT far removed from Afirca, they bring the African ghetto and behaviors with them wherever they go. They have created little third world countries right here in America! Wake up!!

I am pleased to see that a DWL finally admits that blacks exhibit African behavior. African behavior and poverty belong in Africa. African behavior is fine in Africa, but does not work here.

Multiculturalism is a mistake. Blacks cannot function in a free society. They will always be enslaved by their own limitations.

CWN said...

I think that it is quite obvious how blacks act if they are left to their own devices. You need to have a way to control their destructive behavior. All one must do is look over to Africa to see unchecked black behavior. People can say what they wish about slavery, or Jim Crow laws, but atleast blacks were controlled, and not allowed to destroy society.

But with slavery, whites have unleashed an unseen damnation upon themselves. With the marixst "civil rights" movement and illegal immigration, and multiculturality. All of these have been hell for whites. All of these allowed by liberal, PC whites. Whites turn on their own kind. While blacks and hispanics would follow the devil if he were black or mexican.

But, curfews are reasonable ways to try and control some of the black behavior. With a curfew you might have less blacks wondering around, video taping their racist attacks, against unarmed, lone whites. Then again, since when do blacks care about the rules?

Anonymous said...

"People can say what they wish about slavery, or Jim Crow laws, but atleast blacks were controlled, and not allowed to destroy society."

This is why Apartheid worked.

South Africa is now a black-governed shit-hole, leading the world in rape and murder.

Anonymous said...

Anon 9.45 said "South Africa is now a black-governed shit-hole, leading the world in rape and murder."

How true. Even with the cheerleading of sports libs telling lies about how wonderful SA did with the world cup people know just how much of a black shithole it is. Anyone with any knowledge of the World Cup called it an unmitigated disaster that will bankrupt whatever basket case economy SA has. People stayed away in droves because of the overwhelming crime and instead of showing half empty stadiums on TV FIFA gave away free tickets to africans to blow those god damned horns the entire time.

BUBO

Billy Blanks said...

Think the Japanese don't loot? Think again.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703410604576216293024644156.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTTopStories

Anonymous said...

"Billy Blanks said..."

Whatever dude.

Please tell us (and we know you are unable):

Why blacks commit more than their share of violent crime everywhere in the world?
Why blacks cannot congregate in a group of 3 or more without rioting, brawling, or shooting each other with guns?
Why blacks are still shaking down whites and hustling race for reparations and cannot seem to get their shit together?
Why blacks have a huge chip on their shoulders and are the most violent and racist people on the planet?
Why blacks hate themselves and each other?
Why they insist on genocide of their own race?
Why they won't just go back to Africa, the Motherland?
Why over 70% of black children are born out of wedlock?
Why black men are so useless and lazy?
Why the black race is so dependent on public assistance and can not pull their own weight?
Why black neighborhoods are small third world Africas with drug dealers on every corner?
Why so called middle class blacks can not make it without handouts and AA positions?
Why black children are failing miserable in our dumbed down American schools?

You MUST answer these questions before anyone will even consider your posts in criticism of other races.

We are waiting................................................

Anonymous said...

"Think the Japanese don't loot? Think again."

LOLOLOLOL Did you even read the article?

"spread a blanket of beer bottles, barrels and other goods across the port. The beverages that spilled out were then hit a second time: by a surge of thirsty residents."

While blacks and latinos are breaking into stores and stealing TV's and appliances, thirsty Japanese are picking up beverages off the ground from a warehouse that was destroyed. A perfect contrast between the instinct to survive vs crimes of opportunity.

Good post dipshit.

Desiree said...

Good post dipshit.

It is a good post on Billy Blanks' part. The point is that taking something without paying for it after a disaster is 'looting'.

You also don't know jack squat about media bias. During Katrina, yahoo news stated that blacks looted, but whites found. I have the AP/yahoo photo in my files but here was the captions. Note that both photos showed people holding food.

"Two (white) residents wade through chest deep water after finding bread and soda from a local gorcery store after Hurricane Katrina came through the area in New Orleans, Louisiana."

"A young (black) man walks through chest deep flood water after looting a grocery store in New Orleans on Tuesday, Aug. 30, 2005."

You have to admit the media bias.

Asians are the model minority in this country for the simple fact that they do not make a fuss when they experience discrimination by whites and white people do not live near them (the model minority!). As such, there was a continued discussion on the togetherness and lack of looting in Japan.

Criminals exist in all societies. The evidence of looting--no matter how small it may be--is looting. And it represents egg on the face of a media harping on Japanese 'civility'. (Note: the was the Wall Street Journal!)

An interesting article dissecting the now-demolished 'lack of looting':

http://www.slate.com/id/2288514/pagenum/all/#p2

So, the Japanese get money to return things to the lost and found! Wow! I think if we had that policy here, no one would loot either! Not to mention, the Japanese do have less poverty and a community-first society. Capitalism is the economic system, not the culture system. Unlike America, where everything here is step on the backs and fingers of your brothers to get yours.

Thank you, founding fathers!! Ain't America grand?

Stuff Black People Don't Like said...

Desiree,

Did you read that Slate article you linked to? I don't think that you did...

The ranks of "Those Who Can See" grow exponentially when events such as Katrina and the Japanese earthquake are juxtaposed. Factor in Iowa and Nashville flooding where white people acting in a manner similar to the Japanese and you have a situation so obvious that it takes the creation of elaborate theories to try and cover them up.

Haiti is a homogeneous nation and yet why don't they have less poverty and a community-first society?

America was once grand. It was the greatest nation in the history of the world. Since the mid-1960s, Black Run America (BRA) has changed that dynamic.

Anonymous said...

"The point is that taking something without paying for it after a disaster is 'looting'."

No, the point is that people who are without food or water can reasonably be expected to do what is necessary to survive, even though they didn't actually enter any buildings illegally.
Picking up bottles of beer from the ground is not comparable to breaking-and-entering and stealing flat screen televisions, and it is also not comparable to rape.
It is probably your low negro IQ that prevents you from understanding the difference between a single incident of survivalism versus mass negro looting and criminality.

Anonymous said...

"Note that both photos showed people holding food."

Get your facts straight. In interviews, the photographers explained their choice of words. The blacks broke into stores and stole things, thus the word "loot".
The whites grabbed items floating by, thus the word "found".
http://www.media-awareness.ca/english/resources/educational/teachable_moments/katrina_2_photo.cfm

"You also don't know jack squat about media bias."

Of course I do. I'm well aware that the media has no interest in reporting Obama's incompetency when white people are dying.
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/ice-storms-strike-the-heartland-wheres-obama/

Anonymous said...

"Asians are the model minority in this country for the simple fact that they do not make a fuss when they experience discrimination by whites"

Please give examples of Asians taking no action after being mistreated by whites. I've already posted articles of Asians organizing against negro violence.

If you are unable to provide examples, please be honest enough to say so.

Anonymous said...

"Criminals exist in all societies."

Although you probably think you are being profound, this is known as a "Mindless Statement Of The Obvious", and it is not in dispute.

Anonymous said...

"Asians are the model minority in this country for the simple fact"

They emphasize hard work, education, morality, and obeying the law.
These things are like kryptonite to a negro.

Billy Blanks said...

"Why they won't just go back to Africa, the Motherland?"

Why won't you go back to Europe? Did you not steal the land your on (assuming your a typical white American)?

What a dumb question.

Anonymous said...

"Why won't you go back to Europe?"

Good question.

I WOULD go back to Europe if I felt that America was a terrible, unfair, racist place to live.

Why would I stay here and whine incessantly when I could easily leave??

Anonymous said...

"Why they won't just go back to Africa, the Motherland?"

No welfare, no bling, no spinner wheels, no Section 8, no government make-work jobs, no getting paid to make babies (thanks, LBJ). In fact, there is nothing there.

There was a great Time magazine story, perhaps online, where a journalist went to the Congo. He took a boat ride down the Congo river and where once were factories, hospitals, trucks delivering supplies, jobs, bustling ports villages etc. now there was nothing for hundreds of miles. This had been decades since the Belgians left.

The journalist asked the boatman if he was glad the colonists left. The man answered that the first time the Belgians came, they came with guns and armies and took over by force, this time if they would come back the people would welcome them.

You could tell this was inconceivable to the lib journalist whose silly ideas of happy Africans, living in poverty with no way out, that were happy to throw off the chains of their colonial masters.

BUBO

CWN said...

Billy Blanks

"Why won't you go back to Europe?"

Why should white people do this? America was founded by whites, all western culture was. In all the wars, including the revolutionary war, the majority dying for this country have been whites. Whites pay the most money to run this society. American Whites get along fine with one another, unlike Amnerican blacks. Most violent crime comes from minorities.

The only reason we even have blacks in America is because they chose to sale eachother off to white slave traders. I guess enslaving each other in Africa was not lucrative enough.

So it would be much more logical for blacks to return to Africa than for whites to return to Europe. But ofcourse the blacks have it too good riding on the backs of the whites living here. So the blacks would not want to leave and live in that sess pool, and in reality they would not want whitey to leave because then America would turn into Africa.

It is about biting the hand that feeds you. Blacks bite the white hand that feeds them. And either way whites are considered racist, a catch 22.

dondiego said...

I live down the bottom of the world. A banana republic called New Zealand.
Over 170 years since whitey first started to fix the place and the brown brothers (who look to black American ghetto gangstaz for guidance) make up 15% of population/ over 50% prison population.
There probably should be a curfew in many cities. The 'human rights' of crims trump victims in N.Z.