Wednesday, August 17, 2011

Da' Hood Food Mart: Lotto tickets, chicken, liquor, and cigs all in one place

Gotta catch a flight, but Green Week continues tonight. One quick story that shows innovation and the entrepreneurial spirit isn't dead in a city overwhelmed by the Black Undertow. Da' Hood Food Mart in Dallas (not open yet) is your one-stop shop for all the essentials:
Franchise this concept now

Community leaders from the Southern Christian Leadership Conference and local businesses in Fort Worth, Texas are unhappy with the name of a local food-mart titled “Da Hood Food Mart.”


“The name is insulting to our African-American heritage and the over-saturation of these types of establishments within the economically disadvantaged communities is simply a continuation of the exploitation of the poor,” the Rev. Kyev Tatum, president of the SCLC, said in a press release.

The business, which boasts that it sells “Krispy Krunchy Chicken, cheap cigs, and lotto tickets, [sic],” is currently seeking a liquor license.

The East Forth Worth Business Association is calling for the community to reject their application, saying it’s not only insensitive, it’s bad for business.

“We need employers to come in here. And employers are not going look to come into East Forth Worth if its ‘Da Hood’,” said the President of the East Forth Worth Business Association.
Is it just me or is this idea worth franchising? Atlanta, St. Louis, Birmingham, Baltimore, Milwaukee, Detroit and plenty of other cities with high rates of Black unemployment could open these stores up as a way to fight back against those ever-increasing unemployment rates. Just make sure that the store can take EBT/Food Stamps. It would be a great way to teach young Black kids - only half of which will finish high school - some important on-the-job training.

Could you imagine the Mahogany Mobs that would rampage through one of these stores?

Outside of Obama Fried Chicken, what other stereotypical restaurants are out there that cater to Black people via hilarious target marketing, like Da' Hood Food Mart is trying to accomplish?

83 comments:

anon dude said...

BwAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

They should sell guns and STD creams at the express checkout.

Anonymous said...

How about "Fat Ho Burgers" that just opened in Waco?

http://www.myfoxdfw.com/dpp/news/unusual/032311-%27fat-ho-burgers%27-opens-in-texas

Anonymous said...

lol..
common sense
if you're ever lost and see a liquor store, check cashing place, and fried chicken place within 2 blocks of each other, you're in the HOOD.
if they are all wrapped into one store... your ass aint making it out alive!! RUNNNNN

Anonymous said...

I'll open one, but I'll have Krispy Krunch Khicken, and trap door floors which I can activate when then mahogany mob comes to visit.

Steve said...

"Outside of Obama Fried Chicken, what other stereotypical restaurants are out there that cater to Black people via hilarious target marketing, like Da' Hood Food Mart is trying to accomplish"?

To be honest I don't know of any funny ones but these business cater specifically to the black "community"
Payday loan centers, check cashing stores, prepaid credit cards and of course the pay as you go cell phone. Basically any business that does not require identification or a life on the grid.

Ryu said...

Hoooo-weeee!

That's a great idea. Sell 40s, menthol cigarettes, malt liquer. They could even open early on the 15th or whenever the welfare checks come in.

Now you see it's racist to not open places in the hood, and then it's racist when you do. It's the old catch 22. We can never win.

Warrior said...

Another Priceless Gem!

Anonymous said...

I'm in New York City and would welcome cheap cigarettes.

—GA

Anonymous said...

I was in Atlanta in 2010 for a business conference. I stepped out of the MARTA exit to catch my shuttle to the hotel and I was literally the only non-black person on the street (it was a Sunday around noon).

As I was waiting, I noticed there were three gold teeth stores within eyeshot.

If you don't believe me, wait outside the Peachtree station and see for yourself. But please go during daylight.

There was also a billboard for "Free at Last" bail bonds. Again, this is funny but 100% true.

Anonymous said...

But I thought black culture was rich and vibrant compared to the bland, soul-less white culture.

~AV~ said...

LOL...ya'll have to check THIS out...

READ the "comments" after the story!

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2011/08/17/so-many-flies-at-burger-king-inspectors-wouldnt-open-mouths/

have fun!

Californian said...

Interesting thing is that here we have entrepreneurs who are actually trying to meet the needs of the community and they come under fire. But there is a sort of reality that the underclass has market demands that often will not be met by more "respectable" establishments. A case in point is payday loans. Often these tide over low wage earners in emergencies and provide checking services not accessible in banks.

Perhaps the SCLC would want to set up its own grocery store or whatever? Put its money where its mouth is?

And I really have to wonder what is wrong with crunchy chicken? Chicken's probably more healthy than any other kind of fast food.

My two cents worth.

Van said...

Someone beat me to more/less the same joke, but I was thinking how great it would be if the product was called Krazy Krispy Krunch chicken.

I genuinely surprised to see "Krispy Krunch" spelled with Ks instead of Cs. I would think two Ks would be enough to make a brother nervous. I guess they love improper spelling more than they fear the letter K.

MICHAEL DEAN MILLER said...

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"Ho Cakes!" cuz ho's gotta eat, too!'


(with apologies to Mr. Townsend)



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Hell_Is_Like_Newark said...

Will the Cigs be sold in packs or individually (aka "loosies")? All the bodegas in my neighbor hood ignore the law and sell cigs one at a time.

Anonymous said...

And are blacks not attracted to bright colors like red and orange?

Laz said...

There are 14 "Homeboy market" stores on the east side of Fort Worth.

D J said...

Someone above commented on pay as you go cell phones. If my employer didn't subsidize my smart-phone, I would be on a PAYG phone.

Am I a ghetto rat? No. Am I low-rent? Nope. My credit rating is over 800, so that is not the issue.

It just happens I do not talk on the telephone enough to justify having a contract for one.

Steve said...

DJ that would be me STEVE. One thing about PAYG phone ( as you put it) is it requires no ID and does not report to a credit agency. With a contract phone ( I have a low data limit) you pay your bill on time and it gets reported on your credit. This helps build up your overall performance as far as credit agencies are concerned.

The MAJORITY of thugs are not applying for a Iphone unless its subsidized but instead getting the Boost Mobile gang banger phone.

I could go into this further as far as law enforcement is concerned but it wouldn't be worth it.

Anonymous said...

I have to agree with D J, not all PAYG phone users are ghetto. As an example- I have several friends whose spouse ruined them financially and it's the only option right now.

That being said, I have a sneaking suspicion that people like that are in the minority. If stats were available I'm sure they would prove the point. The undertow has shown us the same miserable stats over and over again. Almost, it seems, without exception.

Anonymous said...

They'll sell hard liquor in those mini bottles you get on the airplane or hotel room. There will probably be bullet proof glass between the clerk and customer, who has to put money in a slot and talk through a perforated circle. At night, you can't get into the store, you have to buy through a slot and speak through a microphone.

I wish I was creative enough to make this up, but there's a store just like that down the street from my gym run by some Pakistanis.

Theoderic

Anonymous said...

I live in Forth Worth. There's definitely some nasty parts where you will see pavement apes of various genders and sizes shambling about.

But you will never see mob activity here, too many corn fed rednecks who love to fight.

Anonymous said...

Alright,

This is GIJoe and I'm posting again. At first I thought, 'why bother to challenge the opinions of a bunch of anonymous bigots?' but I still think there could be some value to forcing some of you to face the reality of my existence.

By the way, I do find it flattering that you believe I am some kind of imaginary black superhero. That's funny.

To review

I am a graduate of West Point, Class of 2000 to be specific. With Honor In Hand is our class motto. General Christman was the commandant when I started, and General Abizaid was the Dean when I graduated. I was a chemistry major, the chemistry building is Bartlett Hall.

.. all of that was for the people who don't believe I am a real West Pointer.

I am a graduate of the U.S. Army Ranger school, and was a platoon leader at the 101st Airborne division from 2001-2003, detachment commander from 2003-2004. General Petraeus was my commander during the Iraq deployment. Colonel Joseph Anderson was my Brigade Commander (2nd Brigade aka Strike Brigade). I was in the third battalion of the 502nd infantry regiment commanded by LTC Christopher Holden. This battalion was decomissioned the year I left for medical school - 2004.

I am a 2008 graduate of the University of Maryland School of Medicine. Not much specific about that place that's not public information or easy to confirm from outside of the institution.

I am a military surgeon (resident) - meaning that I am halfway through my training to be a stand alone surgeon.


I am hoping that some of you will suspend your racist outlook for a moment and consider that I might be an actual african american at this point.

As I said in my rebuttal comment on the August 4th post, pattern recognition doesn't make you a racist. I.E. noticing that there are a lot of problems with the black community does not mean that you're racist.

Refusing to believe that a well accomplished, hard working West Point Graduate, Surgeon in Training, Army Ranger with a 135 IQ actually exists somewhere makes you a racist asshole.

And this is the basic reason that I am even still concerned with addressing a crowd like this. As long as people rationalize, and refuse to recognize black achievement when it does occur - dismissing us as affirmative action beneficiaries, or just assuming our incompetence - then people like me will continue to have a lot of problems created by your low opinion of blacks in general.

So again, let me be clear, I am not saying that my existence somehow constitutes the redemption of all black people. I am saying that I am different and I know it.

I also want to make the point that I am different because my environment was different. None of you have probably noticed, but there is a rift between African immigrants and african americans. The immigrants tend to be more intelligent, harder working, and look down on african americans. Hatians are the same way.

Most black doctors that you see are African, Carribean,etc. This is because of the culture they were raised in. Africans and Carribeans are taught by their families to avoid African Americans. Although I am AA, my parents were extreme right leaning, evangelical Christians and also believed in keeping us away from African American culture.

The result is that none of the forces acting on my people were able to have much effect on me. This is why I too looked down on blacks for a very long time.

Anyway, I could go on and on but I won't. I am real. I am capable. There are others like me. Don't let your hate for niggers allow you to do harm to hard working, intelligent black people like myself. Give everyone a chance. That is really my only point.

Thanks.

GIJoe

USMA Class of 2000
UMD SOM Class of 2008
Ranger class of 02-03 (3rd class fiscal year 2002)

Anonymous said...

So the "Reverend", does he sit on a lily pad in his spare time and catch flies with his tongue?

I was having flashbacks to the animated movie "The Hobbit" and the "Reverend" reminds me of the Orc characters.

(The Hobbit) Where there's a whip, there's a way!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdXQJS3Yv0Y

-- Momma told me, never start a fight, but be certain you're the one standing when it's finished.

Anonymous said...

That's absolutely hilarious (the story about the souf side Burger King). Sickening, but hilarious.

Is any more proof needed that these creatures can't take care of themselves?

Anonymous said...

“The name is insulting to our African-American heritage..."

Wait, what?? So this nigger has declared ANOTHER "N" word? "Da Hood" is now a term that may not be uttered other than by niggers?

Lol. These subhumans are pathetic, not to mention hopeless.

JB said...

I'm sorry, but again, I do not think "GIJOE" expresses himself like a person who has a 135 IQ.

"GIJOE," please.

~AV~ said...

GI Joe...as I have always said, it is the Uncle Toms that I embrace and have as friends.

Allen West is today getting his ass ripped by blacks and liberals for being an UNCLE TOM.

Maxine Waters yesterday displayed to the world she is a fucked up nigger...who is embraced by liberals and niggers...

I respect ANY PERSON who embraces the white values that made this country great. Therefore I respect Allen West, Clarence Thomas, Thomas Sowell...etc, even you if you are who you say you are and I will to take your word, you are the honorable person you claim to be.

HOWEVER...I need to repeat...I hate NIGGERS!

I hate white niggers and black niggers.

Sadly, out of the 14% of all America...about 90% of the 14% are niggers...through and through...

Even sadder it must suck to be you...you are hated by your own race, and your race has dealt you an impossible hand to play...

Good luck fighting against your own...they would be thrilled to slit your throat...and YOU know it!

Midwestern said...

"I am real. I am capable. There are others like me."

You are too racially sensitive, soldier. I know capable blacks too. We have all met them. They have one thing in common - they have rejected "black culture", and we have done the same.

My beef is with liberalism and its support of a criminal and dysfunctional black culture of victimology (which you detest), and about liberalism, in general. We are not all equal. I like being with my own white people. I like white schools, white businesses, white neighborhoods. I want to be able to legally separate from blacks if I choose. I can't do that right now. Blacks follow me everywhere, trying to get my stuff and I don't like it. Blacks are only interested in white people's money and revenge for slavery. Blacks are the most racist people on the planet.

So, why don't you go preach to the black people? We only want what you want, to get away from ghetto blacks and their vile culture. You seem to have made it out, help others do the same. The black sub-culture in America is not sustainable. It can not exist without white people.

Blacks genetically have a lower IQ and other issues which they can not overcome. They need to realize that they can only do the best that THEY can do, and not be equal to whites. There is equal opportunity for blacks, but that does not promise equal outcome. Blacks need to hear this important message.

Van said...

GIJoe:

Not a single word in your post is news to anyone here. Yes, there are smart and capable blacks. They are real. The problem is that they are rare. Extremely rare.

Unfortunately, the US Military has made diversity a priority over production. Standards have been lowered in special forces units to get more blacks in. This legitimately calls into question the merit of any black Ranger or ASF member. Sorry, but if you don't like it, demand to be held to the same standards as whites - then maybe you'll be taken seriously.

The same is true in the private sector. Most middle class blacks have been pulled up beyond what they could've accomplished on their own (leaving several more competent whites behind).

Assuming you are who and what you say you are, for every one of you there are so many incompetent blacks destroying their companies, the military, and their government agencies from the inside. Not due to malice, due to complete and total incompetence.

No, the success of black immigrants does not indicate that North American blacks have a cultural, rather than genetic, problem. The countries those people come from are disasters; just like majority black areas anywhere in the world. They are the top 5%, outliers, who were able to escape, but they are not representative of the people they left behind. And their overall impact is still negative, as their kids never live up to their success, they bring their families over, etc.

I'll ask you a question that seems to typically go ignored:

When you look at the crime, welfare use, need for higher taxes, etc; everything that makes blacks such a drain on our civilization; what is so great about you that makes up for it?

Why wouldn't we be better off without the whole lot of you?

What do you, GIJoe, bring to the table that outweighs all the dysfunction that blacks cause?

~AV~ said...

more sheboon behavior

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/08/17/new-video-surfaces-showing-unprovoked-attack-by-philadelphia-teens/

10mm AUTO said...

"When you look at the crime, welfare use, need for higher taxes, etc; everything that makes blacks such a drain on our civilization; what is so great about you that makes up for it?

Why wouldn't we be better off without the whole lot of you?

What do you, GIJoe, bring to the table that outweighs all the dysfunction that blacks cause?"

PLUS ONE TO THAT!

Anonymous said...

I love these negro-marts.

A student friend of mine lived in the ghetto for a while and when I went to visit him I started laughing when I saw his fridge filled with 'grapeade' and 'watermelonade'. He told me he had to buy it because all the stores in the area don't sell any milk or juice. 'Grapeade' was the closest.

I had to see this, so I went to the nearby negro-mart. Sure enough, they had a huge selection of alcohol, soda, at least eight different types of 'flavored drink' -- including the 'watermelonade' --, but no milk or orange juice.

The 'food' consisted of pork rinds and other garbage.

They did however often a wide selection of 'doo rags', Obama shirts, and fake bling.

Anonymous said...

I find it fitting the store name and I hope it sticks. I find it funny that blacks embrace this culture yet scream racism when someone dare profit from it. Let em kick rocks I say.

You act like a nigger, guess what? You get treated like a nigger. That's how it is.

Anonymous said...

GI Joe,

No way in hell are you who you say you are.

Blacks in the military who are squared away hate niggers even more than we do. If you really are a westpoint grad and a surgeon, you'd be asking to contribute articles to this website, not calling us bigots.

Anonymous said...

Wow, this just in: melee at Chinese vs Georgetown BBall game. http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/college/basketball/georgetown_basketball_players_brawl_xzUWDUAfDbWbAdu4UCjobK

Dissident said...

Gi Joe.

How does addressing black criminal behavior make us "anonymous bigots"? If the media were doing their jobs then we wouldn't have to!

I, for one, don't see all blacks as detrimental or AA beneficiaries, but as you say patterns don't lie.

If you're a surgeon-in-training as you say, then you are well on your way to a life of success-I'm happy for you.

Now, if you really want to impress me than get out there and preach to your racial brethren on the ills of "acting the fool". You're wasting your time on this blog trying to convince us that there are capable blacks.

BTW, you should thank those fine "right leaning" parents of yours every day of your life. Sounds to me, that they're the kind of people I could hang with.

Anonymous said...

iss called 1-stop shoppin' muthafuckaz! holla!

Anonymous said...

This is GIJoe and I'm posting again. At first I thought, 'why bother to challenge the opinions of a bunch of anonymous bigots?' but I still think there could be some value to forcing some of you to face the reality of my existence.

You have not and won't get any shit from me, GI--- Hell, even if everything you posted is false, I would still respect the idea of a person like you.

I was in the service too. My son is in Afghanistan right now. I have a special place in my heart for fellow soldiers.

I am now in the pest control industry in Atlantic City, NJ. From personal experience I can vouch for you in that the Blacks born here are demanding, abrasive, and confrontational.

The African immigrants are very hard working and willing to do whatever it takes to get rid of a bed-bug problem.

American born niggers will not lift a finger.

Quick story; I was treating a unit in the back Maryland section of AC (google it) and there was a young black boy very interested in what I was doing. I showed this young man where I was applying chemicals and monitoring devices to control his insect problems. We had a bit of a connection, or so I thought. 15 minutes later, I heard his momma yelling from downstairs "No YOU AIN'T gonna be no fuckin' exterminator! You gonna be a fireman or da police
!!

Anonymous said...

"What do you, GIJoe, bring to the table that outweighs all the dysfunction that blacks cause?"

Game. Set. Match.

Go away, "Joe"

Fayette White Guy said...

Black Georgetown basketball team gets their asses kicked in Chinese brawl:

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/blog/the_dagger/post/Wild-brawl-ends-Georgetown-s-exhibition-game-in-;_ylt=AgeuFbOJWy.f0eR0b6YdfvU5nYcB?urn=ncaab-wp4252

AnalogMan said...

GIJoe: Congratulations. I still wouldn't let you date my daughter.

Anonymous said...

"This is GIJoe and I'm posting again."

Great. So our tax dollars are paying for you to demonstrate your stupidity by wasting your time writing interminably long posts that no one will read on a blog where you are universally considered a liar.

You're just as bad as that low-IQ nitwit Desiree.

Anonymous said...

GI Joe,

"my parents were extreme right leaning, evangelical Christians"

What does this mean?

Are you perhaps displaying the bigotry that you accuse others of harboring, but in this case political and racial stereotypes and bigotry?

Besides, is that any way a supposedly educated and intelligent man would describe the parents that raised and nurtured him, in a public forum? Seems rather backward and low class to me.

If you are indeed black you should be thankful that you had parents to help you through life rather than ridicule them. Few black children of your age did.

Anonymous said...

"all of that was for the people who don't believe I am a real West Pointer."

And you think that by repeating your claims, you are more likely to be believed?

You are a fucking moron.

Anonymous said...

GIJoe Here,

As far as me being a moron for repeating my claims. The anonymous clown at 7:28 should note that I stated the names of the generals running the academy as well as specific facts about the academy that were true during my time there. This is to provide verifiable information.

So I am not simply repeating my claims.

For the individual who wishes to call into merit the qualifications of any Black Ranger or SF member you demonstrate that you clearly have not served in the military or if you have, you have not attempted any of this high level training.

Those programs that you speak of have been aimed at getting blacks into the schools. I've heard some proposed (waiving the swim test), but do not know of any that have been instituted They do not get them through the 60 grueling days of training. When I went through the ranger school in 2001, this did not exist. Nor have I heard of any specific changes involving blacks.

Every black Ranger earned the tab. You can be sure of that. When everyone's rank is removed, and head is shaved, the few black people in the class really stand out. And the last thing you want in the Ranger school is to be noticed. Every black ranger that I have ever spoken with agrees.. it is much harder to get through the Ranger school as a black male.

I watched white Ranger students sleep on patrol, refuse to carry weapons, and basically act like bitches while semblance of the same from a black ranger student was swiftly dealt with.

Believe me, the black rangers are some of the hardest individuals on this planet. And that goes for black SEALs too, like the one who died in Afghanistan last week. Check the faces of the fallen.

The same principle applies to blacks in medical school. There are programs aimed at getting blacks into medical school. But you have three nationally standardized, and difficult licensing exams you must past to earn the M.D. USMLE Step 1, Step 2 CK, and Step 2 CS.

Don't pass any of these and you get no M.D. No affirmative action anything can change that. Every black doctor earned their M.D.

And to cause further injury to your belief that blacks are taking up all the spots better spent on whites... At least 600 white males finished behind me at West Point, and at least 50 white M.D.s finished behind me in medical school.

Some of you need to grow up and understand that being white doesn't make you special. Just like being black doesn't make me a great athlete.

There are plenty of black people smarter and harder working than you. Deal with it.

Oh yeah... AnalogMan.. I'm not interested in dating your overweight, extra-chromosome having, toothless daughter. Thanks for thinking about me though.


- GIJoe

Anonymous said...

I live in Fort Worth and recently went to a bar where something very bizarre happened.

The bar is called is called spencer's corner, it's right by Ridgmar mall. I like to take girls there because you will be endlessly entertained by seeing the dregs of society.

Around 10 pm I see 3 cops roll in, and then within 15 minutes the place was like the source awards, black people everywhere. They brought in balloons and a cake, apparently it was somebody's birthday.

Black hippos took over the dance floor in T-shirt sized dresses and commenced to bend over, giving you full view of their taint. A few mudsharks stayed on the periphery shaking their white girl butts, clearly too timid to try and dance in step with the black girls, who squatted down low enough to have a welfare baby.

They even set up a prom style photo backdrop, with two money filled fists.

Myself and the girl I was with got a kick out of it, I know it would be hell for most of you but here in Texas blacks know not to mess with white men, for the most part.

And it's true about black girls getting fatter and fatter, about 80% of the nubian princesses I saw that night had far, far too much cushion for the pushin.

But of course, they still thought they were sexy.

I told my date if white girls had the confidence of black girls we'd breed like mexicans.

MrGJG said...

GIJoe, why would you think your accomplishments should offset the mediocrity of the aggregate?
The plural of anecdote is not data.

MrGJG said...

Years ago they were talking about opening off shoot stores of "Toys are us" in the hood.
It was to be called "We gettin toys an shit"

Anonymous said...

Van:

"Yes, there are smart and capable blacks. They are real. The problem is that they are rare. Extremely rare."


Uh, no. If you consider the commenters on this site as 'smart' and 'capable' at the very least, then there are millions of smart and capable blacks.


"No, the success of black immigrants does not indicate that North American blacks have a cultural, rather than genetic, problem..."


Over and over, it's been demonstrably proven that African immigrants to both the UK and the US are over-achievers and much better than there West Indian-British black and American black counterparts, respectively, despite the fact of the poverty of their home nations. (This is the same with India--immigrants from that nation are also over-achievers and that nation is one of the poorest.)

http://www.africaresource.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=723:britains-brainiest-family-is-from-nigeria&catid=140:newsworthy&Itemid=330

http://faroutliers.wordpress.com/2007/03/19/black-immigrant-model-minorities/
(note the first comment in the thread listing statistics)

It's a baseless and ridiculous notion--complete fiction--to even pretend that the Africans who over-achieve over the rest of the population of their new countries of residence are 'extraordinary'. That is just a way to make it seem as if black success is fantastic and unusual, which is laughable. Immigrants immigrate because they think they can 'make it'. Don't believe me? Ask an immigrant, even illegal ones.

The evidence of Africans coming to the UK and US and over-achieving completely obliterates your belief system. The countries they've left have never been free of colonialism (note the flunky leaders who simply line their pockets at the expense of the people in order to stay in good with Western capitalists usurping resources from the nations) and when free--like in Ethiopia, for example--they drain so much of their capital defending their nations from foreign traders that virtually nothing is left to set up civilization.

Everyone knows war causes instability.

Africa is a goldmine of riches. Ignoring the history of conquest and subjugation of the peoples--and the fact capitalists used these people as workhorses only, never educating them (not a surprise; you don't educate your victims lest they take over)--so you can say, "This is how they live," makes you look like an idiot, a complete retard, and I'm embarrassed for you.

You cannot look at the Africa now and say this is what Africans are capable of BECAUSE they've never been free. However, obviously if given the tools pertinent to today's world, they over-achieve.

What don't you get about this? They learn and they excel; they are teachable and should be taught. This, of course, does not benefit Capitalists and all efforts to keep Africa in continued shambles post-Independence has been going as planned since the 1960s.

African immigrants demonstrate that it's a cultural problem, not a genetic one for American and British blacks (prove your genetics argument with a gene, otherwise it's just pseudo-scientific nonsense and extrapolation based upon that nonsense). These immigrants--as well as West Indian immigrants to the States--know that education is the way out.

Go on a Nigerian forum and actually hear what these people have to say. Africans and West Indians don't even like American blacks!

Anonymous said...

Van:

"When you look at the crime, welfare use, need for higher taxes, etc; everything that makes blacks such a drain on our civilization; what is so great about you that makes up for it?"


Oh my God, how can one person be so ignorant and arrogantly so? Lucky for you, you're around peers who don't know any better than you do...

The answer is most blacks don't break the law, most aren't on welfare. Welfare was invented for whites and is used by more whites and non-blacks than blacks. You rely on so many completely ridiculous notions to prove your points but you forget the most important point of all: the blacks who screw up have nothing to
do with those who don't, which is the majority.

Get it? Only you choose to be completely myopic and cling to your religion of hatred.

"I guess they love improper spelling more than they fear the letter K."


This is just so dumb. I've seen a "Karla's Kars" and two "Kelly's Kasinos" in my city. Owned by white people. Apparently you've never noticed the use of alliteration in marketing, which is a very useful tool to get people to remember a product or service.

............................................

Okay, white people.

If this store is owned by black people, it's not racist. If it's owned by white people, it's racist. Allow me to explain the seeming double standard and hopefully, although doubtfully, you will understand...

You see, joking about or even claiming stereotypes plaguing a marginalized group within a marginalized group is fine because there is no imbalance of power among the players; also it tends to create camaraderie in the face of struggle by taking ownership of associations and words that were traditionally used for bondage by those outside of of the group. For example, we know gays can call each other 'fags', but if a straight person calls a gay a 'fag', it's usually from a standpoint of power and is an imbalance between the two players--whereby 'straight' is the accepted norm an 'gay' is the deviation. Those with less power always end up on the defense and will have to justify being worthy of equal treatment.

You can also see this with women and the word 'bitch' and blacks with the word 'nigga'.

Using stereotypes when you are a member of the dominant group--heterosexual, white, and male--is bad.

Typically, people conforming to the dominant group will often be angry that they cannot break this accepted social custom, simply because, belonging to the dominant group, you believe that you should be entitled to just about everything.

Don't be upset, white people, at the truism described herein. It's the way it is.

A white person opening a 'Da Hood Food Mart' should be condemned because of the aforesaid, not to mention he is siphoning wealth from a community he does not belong to and, most importantly, stereotyping.

Now, if a white person opened a mini mart, liquor store, or even chicken joint in a black neighborhood with neutral shop titles, this would be perfectly acceptable.

This shouldn't be a hard concept to understand...

Van said...

"The anonymous clown at 7:28 should note that I stated the names of the generals running the academy as well as specific facts about the academy that were true during my time there. This is to provide verifiable information."

the fact that I could look it up and verify it means you could also look it up to falsify your claim. If its not something I could look up, then its NOT verifiable, and you could've just made it up. I'll take you at your word, but you've proven nothing.

"For the individual who wishes to call into merit the qualifications of any Black Ranger or SF member you demonstrate that you clearly have not served in the military or if you have, you have not attempted any of this high level training."

Your refusal to acknowledge reality doesn't change reality. Standards have been lowered in every endeavor to get more blacks in; even then, with a limited number of slots, one of these newly-qualifying blacks gets in over a better qualified white. Standards are lowered less in the military than other fields (police/fire depts. come to mind), but they are still lowered. Its well documented, you can search it out on this site if you wish - there will be links to independent, non-SBPDL information.

Of course, this does not mean every single successful black would not have succeeded without help, but the process legitimately calls the outcome into question.

"And to cause further injury to your belief that blacks are taking up all the spots better spent on whites... At least 600 white males finished behind me at West Point, and at least 50 white M.D.s finished behind me in medical school."

Your statement in no way disproves mine. Every white does not have to be more qualified for it to be true that there were more qualified whites.

"Some of you need to grow up and understand that being white doesn't make you special."

There are hundreds of millions of white people on the planet. I don't feel special.

"There are plenty of black people smarter and harder working than you. Deal with it."

Worldwide, raw numbers? Yeah, that's probably true. But as a percentage of the whole, no. The vast majority of blacks are not smarter and more hardworking than me. Deal with it.

You didn't answer my question, GIJoe. What do you and your fellow top 5% bring to the table that outweighs the impact of the rest of your brethren?

See, most of us are just cogs in the machine. You and I are both replaceable. If we disappeared tonight, someone else could step in and take our places. But if all blacks disappeared, what would the impact be? A massive improvement. If all the whites disappeared? Distant and recent history indicate a rapid decline into 3rd World status.

Van said...

"there are millions of smart and capable blacks."

Percentage of the whole is what matters; and its too low for blacks to create stable modern societies. When they start doing it, I'll reconsider. Until then...

"That is just a way to make it seem as if black success is fantastic and unusual, which is laughable."

When something only happens a small percentage of the time, it is extremely fantastic and unusual.

"Africa is a goldmine of riches. Ignoring the history of conquest and subjugation of the peoples..."

Ignoring the fact that sub-Saharan Africans did NOTHING with that goldmine of riches is the only way you can claim group equality.

PRIOR TO the arrival of whites, blacks did NOTHING. The two major claims to black civilizational achievement include a mortarless pile of rocks and a non-black Ancient Egypt.

We'll return to the concept of prima facie. When there is no historical achievement, no modern achievement, and no success at maintaining that which was achieved by others. The logical conclusion is that said achievement is not possible. Demonstrate otherwise, and I'll reconsider. Excuses for the lack of achievement do not indicate that said achievement would've been possible.

"You cannot look at the Africa now and say this is what Africans are capable of BECAUSE they've never been free. However, obviously if given the tools pertinent to today's world, they over-achieve."

They were free before whites got there. We've seen what they do on their own.

"prove your genetics argument with a gene, otherwise it's just pseudo-scientific nonsense and extrapolation based upon that nonsense"

Blacks tend to have smaller brains. More importantly, they have fewer neurons per cubic inch. This has been dismissed by many, but not disproven or discredited. Many of the studies that claim to disprove them have themselves been discredited.

Transracial adoption, biracial aptitude. The fact that the "cultural bias" is strongest on math - the subject with the least potential for cultural bias. Sorry, it all points to genetics.

I'll ask you the same question:

What do you, and other "good" blacks do to balance all the negative ones. Convince me that I wouldn't be better off without the whole lot of you.

Anonymous said...

Sooner than later, I would answer that question with, "Kill my enemies, see them run like scared deer before me, then hear their women beg for their lives."

Anonymous said...

"This is to provide verifiable information."

LOL @ "verifiable".

You can't possibly be stupid enough to believe this is convincing.

Anonymous said...

"Uh, no. If you consider the commenters on this site as 'smart' and 'capable' at the very least, then there are millions of smart and capable blacks."

That is your opinion and you are entitled to it, and even though not a single person here agrees with you, no one is trying to change your mind about anything. In fact, you are encouraged to continue believing whatever it is you believe.

Please have the common courtesy to show the same respect in return.

You are like a broken record, repeatedly posting the same tired, unoriginal negro talking points. No one is interested in your long-winded diarrhea, no one listens to anything you say, and in fact, everyone here dismisses everything you write.

The fact that you waste weeks/months/years of your life arguing with people who collectively think that you're a racist imbecile strongly suggests that you have a low IQ.

Anonymous said...

Van,

I'm pretty sure that I already said that I myself do not represent 'redemption for the black race.' And if you deem another human worthy of removal or elmination because when they are visible in large concentrations they tend to be impoverished, loud, disruptive, and demanding.. then you actually would be better off without black people.

However, if you see people as individuals you would understand that all I am saying is that I am black and I have value to you and the rest of America. Regardless of what other black people are doing. I am caught in the cross fire.

If you really valued humanity regardless of color you may ask what I have done to improve the situation that has spun out of control in our inner cities.

I would tell you that I volunteer with urban children as a big brother. My goal has been to prevent them from becoming everything you complain about on this site.

For the most part I am agreement with a lot of the complaints posted on this site. The difference is that I love black people regardless of these obvious flaws. They are my friends, my family, my future.

Peace,

GIJoe

AnalogMan said...

GIjoe, have you heard the expression "sour grapes"? You're just making yourself look ridiculous.

Laz said...

OMG! How could I have forgotten "Rent-A-Tire"?

Anonymous said...

How curious that GIJoe spins all the same tired cliches as Desiree.

Shocking.

Anonymous said...

@ Anon. August 19, 2011 4:30 PM

"How curious that GIJoe spins all the same tired cliches as Desiree."

It is Desiree, who else here would be spinning these tall tales.

Van said...

"And if you deem another human worthy of removal or elmination"

I don't promote or support removal or elimination, and I never will. Someone who promotes genocide would make the same statements I've made, but our solutions are vastly different.

What I do support is honesty about the issues. There ARE racial differences; they are self-evident. They exist in intellectual achievement, crime and violent behavior, innovation, and any number of behavior traits. Our society is destroying itself trying to turn sub-Saharan Africans into Europeans. Its not working, and it never will. We need to stop fighting reality, allow our natural differences to just be.

An accomplished black man like yourself should be allowed to succeed to the best of his abilities. But we should be doing nothing to force a group-level equality that simply doesn't exist.

"However, if you see people as individuals you would understand that all I am saying is that I am black and I have value to you and the rest of America."

If you are who you say you are, you're damn right you - as an individual - have value to America. There certainly are black Army Rangers who were truly capable of attaining their positions without the diversity "nudges" that are available. If you're one of them, I respect you.

The problem is that the overall impact of blacks on US society is negative. Its not even neutral, its negative. You and other like you don't balance out all the "Boyz'n da Hood" - not even close.

When I first came to that conclusion a few years ago, it was really quite depressing. I don't enjoy it.

"Regardless of what other black people are doing. I am caught in the cross fire."

I understand, and I think that's your real point here. The problem with most truly accomplished blacks is that rather than speak the truth, they agitate for more goodies, more programs, more preferential treatment, and on and on, for "their" people. When someone wants to take my income through taxation, and use it for the benefit of their people, at the expense of me, my family, and my friends, that person is my enemy.

The low-level black/white battle in the US is simply the same struggle for control of resources. Blacks want to take whatever they can, because they don't create much wealth on their own. Historically this has been the case. Instead of physical confrontation, they use the legal system. But legality is not morality, and theft is theft.

"I would tell you that I volunteer with urban children as a big brother. My goal has been to prevent them from becoming everything you complain about on this site."

I honestly hope you reach some of them. For everyone's benefit - yours, mine, and theirs.

"The difference is that I love black people regardless of these obvious flaws. They are my friends, my family, my future."

You should feel this way. The problem here is that the majority of blacks would consider me evil for making a similar statement about whites. For not caring as much about blacks, if not more, than I do whites.

Taking you at your word about who you are, it must be awful. To see the dysfunction among blacks, juxtaposed with the stability of white society; to be smart and hardworking, and to not see that among so many of your people.

Its why I've come to believe that we really would be better off apart. I've said it already - no black society has ever accomplished what white societies regularly do. To see it must be frustrating. There will always be tension among different groups who live together, because they are so... different. Different in meaningful ways.

Anonymous said...

"The fact that you waste weeks/months/years of your life arguing with people who collectively think that you're a racist imbecile strongly suggests that you have a low IQ."

Definition of irrational: without or deprived of normal mental clarity or sound judgment.
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@ GIJoe:

"For the most part I am agreement with a lot of the complaints posted on this site. The difference is that I love black people regardless of these obvious flaws. They are my friends, my family, my future."

Can't you see that the 2nd and 3rd sentences are hypocritical when put after the 1st sentence. They also show that you are an enabler. Which, in the end, doesn't make it worth the effort to support the many when there is such a very small percentage that are a contribution to society (you).

A fellow employee once jokingly told me "Family comes first with us, that's the difference between you white people and us." I said "That's right, we know when to kick the rapists and murderers to the curb as the dregs they are. Your entire culture embraces them."

Let me ask you a question: In the almost predictable upcoming race war, are you with family and friends or, are you with the people you know will win due to having the majority of weapons, ammo, and training?
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I really can feel for those stuck in the middle, especially the mixed race people. You get a sense that that they want to live decent lives with friends and neighbors but, those fools just won't act right.

Svigor said...

No Paul, you aren't the only one who sees enormous growth potential there. Fried chicken & soul food, snacks, beer & liquor, cigarettes and lottery tickets. Why even bother with gas? That, my friend, is a ghetto growth industry. But I would drop the "hood" part, it seems to be an easy "in" for the lawyers down the line. I'd stick with "country" motifs instead; it's always okay to stereotype rural whites.

I'd put everything but the snacks behind a heavy steel mesh and bulletproof glass. You could even have a heavy drop-down metal gate to contain the mahogany mobs until the paddy wagon arrives or they all starve to death, whichever comes first.

Californian said...

Africa is a goldmine of riches. Ignoring the history of conquest and subjugation of the peoples--and the fact capitalists used these people as workhorses only, never educating them (not a surprise; you don't educate your victims lest they take over)--

Manifestly not so. White South Africans educated blacks, as well as providing them with an extensive system of social services. And what happened? Whites today are now reduced to a despised minority in their own country. And the black majority is proceeding to wreck the country's economy and unleash a massive crime wave.

And then we can look at Rhodesia, aka Zimbabwe, where a similar process is further along the line, with Whites being ethnically cleansed. Let us note that the ruling party of Zimbabwe is Marxist, and has had every opportunity to implement anti-capitalist policies. And what has it produced? Economic collapse. Mass starvation. A third of its populace fleeing to adjoining countries. Human rights disasters.

Thing is, black Africans blaming White people for their dysfunctions has become a broken record which should have been discarded a long time ago. If Africans can not take responsibility for their own corruption and incompetence and despotism, then who wants to listen to them complain?

Californian said...

GIJoe, thanks for posting and engaging.

You need to understand there is a lot of righteous anger among many Whites over their own dispossession in the name of "civil rights." A case in point is with White people who have lost their jobs or were otherwise sanctioned because of their views on race. One would think that those who claim to speak for civil rights might respect the First Amendment, but such is not the case.

One reason that increasing numbers of White people are taking up a racial outlook is because they see no choice. Blacks, illegal aliens, whatever, all organize and agitate along racial-collective lines. What is even more maddening is that the power structure in the USA (government, corporations, schools, media, etc.) all promote minority racial policies. Meanwhile, Whites who adopt a racial outlooks are condemned as "racist" and sanctioned. Consider how in the armed forces one can have a Black History Month or Women's History Month, but were White men to do the same for themselves they would no doubt be downchecked for not supporting Equal Opportunities and their careers then trashed.


As I said in my rebuttal comment on the August 4th post, pattern recognition doesn't make you a racist. I.E. noticing that there are a lot of problems with the black community does not mean that you're racist.


The thing is, why is being a "racist" wrong in the first place? I would think that in the interests of diversity and free speech (the latter a basic civil right, after all), a race realist would have the same right to be heard as a liberal -- heck, we can have out-and-out communists teach in American universities, so why would a racist be wrong on those same campuses? Or is the liberal claim of "diversity" so much smoke and mirrors to hide a one-sided system of indoctrination.

Most black doctors that you see are African, Carribean,etc. This is because of the culture they were raised in. Africans and Carribeans are taught by their families to avoid African Americans.

Interesting comment, and one which would seem to vindicate the views of many race realists re American blacks, though I hope the situation is not that far gone! If black culture really is a factor, then what can be done to change it in America?

Give everyone a chance.

Race realists would like to, but they see themselves being dispossessed by affirmative action, by crime waves in which black violence drives Whites out of their neighborhoods, by being taxed to support programs which are used against themselves, by their being censored for stating obvious truths, etc.

In any event, I enjoy the dialog.

Anonymous said...

GIJoe Here Again,

Van, I think that you and I are coming from the same place. I am a race realist indeed. It lost me many black friends, or got me labeled in a bad way early in life. But the statistics don't lie.

In many ways I believe in what you are doing on this site. Voicing your complaints about a group of people who are behaving badly and pretty much being shielded by the media and white elites.

I spoke out about this rather strongly while I was in medical school in Baltimore, MD. Much of the time, people looked at me sideways and said nothing, demonstrating the attitude of tolerance of absolute stupidity just because black people got a raw deal once upon a time.

Well, though I am relatively anonymous here, I promise to you that I won't be one of the 'elite blacks' who pushes for more 'goodies and benefits.'

When I return to urban America, my goal is to initiate simple, inexpensive programs run by volunteers. The goal - to teach parents how to teach their children. To educate the uneducated on how to show their children the way out of poverty and ignorance.

And you're right, it is for my own good as well as yours. I am sympathetic to the white men and women who frequent this site. I understand that it must be infuriating to watch as things are handed over to people who don't deserve them, and who are more likely to waste them. Just know that there is a black man out there (though I am only one among thousands) who is working to empower poor blacks with knowledge - not just give them another handout (job, food, money).


And Californian, thanks for engaging me in true dialog. That is all that I am really interested in. Simply sharing a different perspective from a person who is equally pissed off from the situation with black America, yet affected in a completely different way.

And for the record, I don't consider it racist to notice the problems, I consider it racist for people to assume that someone like me cannot exist. Calling people pavement apes and stuff like that is just hurtful as well, it just polarizes people.

What we all need is honest, open, dialogue that addresses the real issues. Allocation of resources in a pure meritocracy is the best way to do things, I have always believed that.

When I was applying to med school I found out that Vanderbilt medical school reserved 2 or 3 spots for the most qualified black applicants who met a certain standard. I didn't think I was a candidate who was as competitive as many of the people admitted to this 'Southern Ivy League Institution' so I just didn't apply. I didn't want to feel like I had received a hand out.

Anyway, I'll end there. Thank you all for the responses. Even if I am not permitted to ravage your daughter - Analogman

Discard said...

GI Joe: I still smell bullshit. Last time it was when you wrote that you were forced to take an IQ test in an Army sponsored MD program, when your GT scores would have been readily available in your 201 file. Now it's your claim that knowing who the commander of West Point was is evidence that you had been there. Hey, when I was at the Little Big Horn with the 7th Cavalry, the Regiment was led by Lt Colonel George Armstrong Custer. When I surrendered to the Japanese at Corrigedor, my commanding general was Jonathan Wainwright. When I flew with Torpedo Eight at Midway, my squadron leader was Lt Commander Waldron. If you doubt me, you could look it up.

Discard said...

Anon at 6:27 AM Aug 19: Are you talking about those so superior and successful Africans that are burning England?

Discard said...

GI Joe: White Ranger trainees who refused to carry weapons? That would be ex-Ranger trainees, you bullshitter.

Anonymous said...

Discard, if you ever were in the military I'm sure you didn't go too far. You know nothing of which you speak. I am a M.D. I am in my third year of residency - the training you do after med school to become a surgeon. This is the program that forced me to take the IQ test.

The 201 file may list the GT score or Asvab score of a soldier, but officers don't take these tests. We're all college graduates remember? We All had the sense to take and perform well on the SAT - I got a 1340 in one try. The SAT scores of officers are considered irrelevant.

Let's put this to rest. I have photos of me graduating from WEST POINT in 2000, ranger school in 2001, and med school in 2008. Email me at Mehta.phyziz@gmail.com and I'll send you all three. You will see the same black man graduating from all three institutions. I'll also send you my sanitized 201 file that lists west point, my EIB, Ranger tab, Air assault and Airborne

Email me for confirmation or shut the hell up.


GIJoe

Discard said...

GI Joe: I was in and out of the service before you were born, and I was not an officer. I did not care to go any farther and got out. If officers don't take the same tests as EM, they surely take some kinds of tests. Don't tell me I don't know what I'm talking about. The military does not pretend that all 2nd Lieutenants are the same, and send some of them to flight school and some to the quartermaster school at random. Those scores will be in your 201 file. There can be no need for an IQ test to confirm official records. Unless your performance compels them to doubt your records?

I am not skilled at using computers, but I know that it has become easy for those who are adept to fake photos. Photo shopping, I believe it's called. That you would offer to show me digital pictures as proof of your claims is as silly as telling me the names of your alleged commanders.

No, I will not E-mail you, nor will I shut up. I am not about to give you an entry into my life. How dumb do you think I am? And how dumb are you to imagine that anyone would be persuaded of your credibility by such weak evidence?

Regardless of your personal attributes, I know that there are intelligent and capable Black officers. One of them taught me how to use a slide rule during idle moments. But such men are far too few to make up for the dead weight of their racial brethren. The price of admitting those eight or nine bright Black kids to Little Rock Central High was the destruction of the school by the rest of their people. The price of ending Jim Crow was the destruction of our cities. For every Black fit to live in White society, there are ten who are unfit, and admitting the one eventually means letting the rest in as well. The historical pattern in this country has been that the able Blacks are only the vanguard of the rabble, which is why I am for complete segregation, an enlargement of the old One Drop Rule. If your "talented tenth" hadn't insisted on bringing the rest of the 'hood along, there would be no Black Run America, and we might have gotten along. But it's too late now.

Anonymous said...

GI BLOW is more like it. No one CARES about any of your crap. Try going to Blackplanet or some other site and leave SBPDL.

Anonymous said...

Discard,

First and foremost, there is no need for Photoshop. The Ranger School keeps it's own graduation photo records.

https://www.benning.army.mil/infantry/rtb/gallery.html

Follow this link, click on the year 2002. Class 02-02 back row, second from the left. That's me. You'll notice that there are three other black rangers in this class as well. The one closest to me was a green beret Captain at the time. To his left was an E-4 from my company at Fort Campbell.

I could photoshop images from the West Point year book, but it would be pointless since a hard copy exists at the academy library (not that I would expect you to go through that much trouble to confirm the image is genuine).

Photoshop is nice, but putting myself into an image such as a company class photo of about 30 classmates standing shoulder to shoulder would be pretty difficult and beyond my abilities for sure.

I guess it's easier to believe that I would photoshop myself into West Point photos than it is to believe that I actually graduated from that institution huh?

As far as officers being placed into assignments... West Point was a perfect meritocracy. As I said, the average West Pointer is considered capable of anything. The only two branches that require additional testing are aviation (one must pass a physical, vision test, and the written flight aptitude test) and the Medical Corps (a cadet has to be accepted to a north american medical school and be approved by an academy selection board).

With the exception of those two, all other assignments are determined by class rank. The highest ranked cadet gets to select the branch of his choice. There are roughly 900-1000 cadets, as the available slots in each branch run out, so do the options for the cadets on the lower end of the class. Simple as that. I'm not sure how it works with the ROTC cadets since they call come from different colleges around the country.

I find it interesting that you seem to echo the same sentiment as a few others. As you begin to accept that I may be exactly who I say I am, you find it necessary to emphasize the fact that my achievements cannot offset the chaos caused by my fellow negroes.

I will repeat myself again.

I never said that my achievements make a difference in the big picture. Poor, lower class blacks are a pestilence in this country. It's as simple as that. I avoid them almost as much as you do, but I do try to help the children when I get the chance. The adults are a lost cause. I will not buy a home within a 50 mile radius of large populations of this type of black person.

But that's not my point in commenting here. My entire point was basically that black people in large concentrations tend to be people that we all want to avoid. I am however, requesting that people prevent their dislike for this group of people do harm to people like me. People who are very similar to you (I've lived as the only black person among whites most of my life).

And to answer your question, yes I was forced to take the IQ test because my performance was being questioned. This is despite the highest test scores on our annual in-training exam, zero patient errors with regards to assessment and treatment, high patient approval ratings, and good surgical skills as evaluated by objective criteria. My point being that black males attract so much scrutiny and subjective disapproval, that these people actually questioned my intelligence. In doing so they found out that my IQ is 135 (median physician IQ ranges between 120 and 125).

Dissident said...

Hey GI.

I for one, do commend you on your achievements. It's my sincere wish that more blacks would strive to achieve what you have.

Your frustrations are justified, as I'm sure that it must be hard for you to try and overcome stigmas; just as it's hard for many whites to overcome the charge of Racism (TM) when we even attempt to say anything that's contrary to the PC party line!

I suppose we feel each others pain?

Anonymous said...

"I guess it's easier to believe that I would photoshop myself into West Point photos than it is to believe that I actually graduated from that institution huh?"

GIJoe, apparently you are not fully aware of the psychopath that inhabits this blog, and the absurd lengths to which she will go to create fake personalities/identities. Your lengthy writing style is a mirror-image of hers.

Although I was originally highly skeptical, at this point, I am convinced you are legit.

Anonymous said...

Hey Dissident,

We definitely feel each other's pain. As a black dude, it can almost be a knee jerk reaction to launch charges of racism when a room full of white men disagrees with you, the lone black male. But experience, patience, and maturity have taught me to take a careful and thorough look at myself first before making a bunch of accusations.

At the same time, I tend to operate with the expectation that 25-35% of white males wish to see me fail, marginalized, defeated, etc. This may be a gross overestimation for all I know. This is of concern to me because the political and social climate of our country demands that people keep their opinions to themselves on this matter. So I'm left wondering who I can trust and who I cannot.

One thing I know is that I cannot assume that it is all of them, that would get me nowhere and I'd just end up with feelings of resentment towards an entire race. The dominant race of this continent. It is in my best interest to assume the best in everyone, but to be prepared for the possibility of injustice.

Sorry to be longwinded.. I understand why it could seem that I am Desiree. We share many of the same beliefs from what I have seen on one other post. We probably differ in that I will not make excuses for bad behavior. I understand why black people are behaving badly, and I am somewhat sympathetic to the root causes, but I refuse to excuse it.


GIJoe

Discard said...

GI Joe: I am not prepared to sort out your sources. My computer skills are very limited, and I find most sites to be unbearably cluttered. I limit myself to this and one other site, where I have figured out how to get around. All I know is that it's easy to misrepresent oneself online, and that citing photographs that can be faked and commanding officers whose names are a matter of public record is no evidence at all. If others, more able than I, think you're on the level, I can accept that. As I wrote, I once served a fine Black officer.

I recognize that it must be terribly frustrating to be an intelligent, civilized Black man. It could only be much worse than the way I feel when I see wiggers or White degenerates with a faceful of metal and bodies covered with cartoons that ought to have been drawn on T-shirts. My sympathies, but the fact remains that capable Blacks are a battering ram for the mass of thugs and dullards. Once, I sat at a dinner table with one of the Little Rock Eight. He and his wife were members of my church briefly until his career called him away. Fine fellow, but he destroyed the schools of his city.
As an intelligent Black man, you have a dilemma: your race or civilization. As an intelligent White man, I have no such dilemma. supporting my race IS supporting civilization. And to defend my civilization, I favor segregation, despite the occasional injustice. I would not wish your burden on any decent person, but there it is anyway.

Dissident said...

Gi Joe.

Listen up. I grew up in a small Appalachian town with about 2,000 people in it. There was a black section of my town with about several hundred black folks living there.

Out of those black kids that I attended school with, two received computer engineering degrees from VPI, one received an electrical engineering degree and another went to Harvard law.

I know that blacks that come from good family structures can and do achieve, my home town is proof positive of this.

I know what people of all races are capable of, both good and bad. There's plenty of blame that can be leveled both ways.

I appreciate the fact that you don't excuse bad black behavior, as I certainly don't excuse whites when they are acting like savages.

Dialog is important for understanding, but let us never make excuses for foolishness and pure criminality from any race.

Anonymous said...

Dissident,

It's all good. As I have mentioned before, I think your group on this site has identified the problem correctly. An organization consisting of blacks like me and whites like you guys could probably make a positive impact in this country. Unfortunately, we tend to be drowned out by the Jesse Jacksons and Al Sharptons, as well as their white counterparts.

Wish you all the best.


GIJoe

Anonymous said...

@Discard

You said: "Regardless of your personal attributes, I know that there are intelligent and capable Black officers."

OK, so you say this but you cannot bring yourself to admit that maybe GIJOE is one of those intelligent and capable black officers? I mean, my God, he's provided so much detail about his background, you say blacks can be capable, but you cannot bring yourself to apply that to GIJOE?!?

Stephen King once wrote, "The definition of an asshole is someone who doesn't believe what they see."

I think that applies to you.

After all, even Paul Kersey is a fake name and he's provided much less details about himself than GIJOE. Who knows who he could be. For all we know, this website could be a grand sociology experiment by some liberal in Portland studying groupthink among fringe sects in society. Hell, he could even be black!

You said: "All I know is that it's easy to misrepresent oneself online, and that citing photographs that can be faked and commanding officers whose names are a matter of public record is no evidence at all. If others, more able than I, think you're on the level, I can accept that."

Well, shit, Discard. Yes, people can fake identities but most people don't. It's the crazies who do. Most people don't get to the point they are memorizing titles and finding the lone black guys at some academies JUST to make some point on a random blog.

I think what your problem is, is that GIJOE may be more accomplished and more intelligent than all of the whites on this site, including yourself. And you simply can't stand it.

He wasn't even being disrespectful. It just shows how far gone you are that you cannot even give credit to another person if their skin is black... Damn.

Discard said...

Anon at 3:43, Aug 26: If you had better reading skills, you'd have noticed that I allowed that it was possible that GI Joe was who he claimed to be. I find his credentials suspicious, but some other posters do not, and so I'm willing to defer to others who are better able than I to sift evidence online.

How do you describe someone who goes on a nine paragraph rant against another person because they failed to read what he wrote? Will "asshole" do?