Saturday, August 27, 2011

White Boys, Armageddon, and College Football: It all comes down to Sports

"White boys" like former Arkansas running back Peyton Hillis aren't supposed to play in the SEC
We all have things that interest us in life. For me, my most poignant memories will always center around football. Whether it involves going to college football games to tailgate with family and friends, playing the game, or watching my alma mater, nothing beats fall Saturday's.

Nothing.

Being relatively young, I was born years after the Southeastern Conference (SEC) teams finally integrated. At first, the quality and character of the Black student-athlete recruited was quite high, but this mindset evaporated quickly to the point where SEC schools now recruit Black athlete-students who barely qualify for admission to the schools (South Carolina head coach Steve Spurrier complained about admission requirements keeping out talented Black athletes) that are in the conference.

Sports Illustrated published an article in 1991 that bragged how Black people now dominated the SEC. Here are some excerpts from that story:
Even now he has vivid memories of games at Auburn, where the kindest chant was "Char-coal, char-coal," and of games at Mississippi, where Confederate flags were wielded with malice. Those were the most nightmarish trips for Vanderbilt's Perry Wallace, who in the winter of 1967-68 became the Southeastern Conference's first black varsity basketball player. He tried to block out the jeers, the taunts and the slurs, but sometimes it was impossible. Sometimes his palms would get so sweaty that a pass would slip through his hands, or he would get so jittery that he would have to go to the bench amid hoots of derision.
"Those were scary, scary situations," says Wallace, now an attorney in Washington, D.C., and a law professor at Baltimore University. "Every time we had a road trip, I approached it with the deepest sense of dread."

Today that all seems so long ago and so strange. Indeed, no league in the nation has benefited more from integration—check out all those postseason bowl and NCAA basketball invitations—than the SEC, which fought it the hardest. This season the conference's football teams are 57% black, its basketball teams 64%.
The SEC has been enriched by so many outstanding black athletes—names like Herschel Walker, Bo Jackson and Charles Barkley leap to mind—that it is difficult to remember that when Wallace made his debut for Vandy, the threat of violence was as real and near as the redneck hecklers sitting just behind the benches. David Sansing, a professor of history at Mississippi, remembers those times when he listens to the current debate on campus over the Alumni Association's request to Ole Miss fans not to wave Confederate flags at athletic events because doing so is an insult to blacks. "When you get down to it," says Sansing, "white Southerners and black Southerners still live in a world apart from each other, but it's better, and athletics has been a part of it. Take this flag thing. Twenty-five or 30 years ago, a white man could literally kill a black person in Mississippi without much fear of reprisal. Now we're talking about being insensitive to the feelings of blacks and scolding people for it. That's a hell of a difference."

The South was a racial battleground all through the 1960s, and its collegiate athletic teams, the most visible symbols of both the region's pride and its prejudice, were caught up in the emotions. Somehow, breaking the color barrier wasn't as difficult in the SEC's neighboring leagues, the Atlantic Coast and Southwest conferences, perhaps because Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and the other civil rights leaders chose to fight in the heart of Dixie. The ACC was quietly integrated by Maryland, where the pioneers were football player Darryl Hill in 1963 and basketball player Billy Jones in '66. Nor was there much of a stir in the SWC when Texas Christian's James Cash became its first black basketball player in 1965 and Baylor's John Westbrook became the league's first black football player a year later.

Daniel Sorensen (#9) stated the "white boys" from BYU will show the SEC
What's funny is that now white people get jitters when they drive into Atlanta, Birmingham, Montgomery, Jackson (Mississippi), Memphis, Knoxville, Columbia, Tallahassee, the wrong parts of Tuscaloosa, New Orleans, Baton Rouge, and other Southern cities because Black people make them unsafe.

Sadly, it is the sons of these Black people that SEC (and ACC, Big East and other college football conferences) schools recruit with reckless abandon - many times going on probation for cheating during the recruiting process - though they have no desire to interact with these Black people outside of football Saturday's.

We have pointed that college baseball is more in line with the racial breakdown of SEC student enrollment, with white players comprising the bulk of the rosters. However, college football is the exact opposite. The University of Mississippi Rebels Brown Bears have thrown away all of their traditions (read this article by me at Alternative Right on the situation) in the vain pursuit of landing Black athlete-students to lead them back to the glory days of Rebel football -- when the team was all-white and actually won games.

The University of Mississippi has a student body population that is 82 percent white and 13 percent Black, but will see only four white players start on the football this season (out of 22 positions - 11 on offense and 11 on defense). The rest of the teams in the SEC are just as white - in terms of student body - but some are even worse when it comes to the football players. Here is Caste Football with a breakdown of the 2011 starters for the 12 SEC teams compared to the Mountain West Conference:

One way to see how Southern teams discriminate against White athletes more than any other conference in the country is to compare the darkest conference in the country, the SEC, with the Whitest conference in the country, the MWC. Even the high black populations in the states of the Old South don’t account for or excuse this extreme level of anti-white discrimination. Shown below are the number of White starters for each team.

SEC
Vanderbilt-9/22
Kentucky-8/22
Auburn-6/22
Alabama-5/22
Arkansas-5/22
LSU-4/22
Ole Miss-4/22
Tennessee-4/22
South Carolina-3/22
Georgia-2/22
Mississippi-2/22
Floirda-1/22

Total of 53/264 (20.08%) in the SEC

MWC
Boise State-16/22
Air Force-15/22
Wyoming-15/22
San Diego State-12/22
Colorado State-10/22
Texas Christian-10/22
New Mexico-7/22
UNLV-5/22

Total of 90/176 (51.14%) in the MWC
I pointed out in an article called The Opiate of America that the bulk of Black athlete-students enrolled at major colleges and universities would never have qualified and received special admission wavers were they not athletes. The reality of that statement is going to become increasingly clear this week during our college football preview.

I've thought a lot about this quote from 1955 that will be quoted below and I have finally realized I agree with it. Completely. This is from Time magazine:

Two thousand students from the Georgia Institute of Technology stormed through Atlanta one night last week, whooping up and down Peachtree Street, pushing aside troopers who tried to bar their way, and generally raising hell. At the State Capitol, the boys pulled fire hoses from their racks, adorned the sculpt head of Civil War Hero John Gordon with an ashcan. A dozen effigies of Governor Marvin Griffin were hanged and burned during the students' march, which culminated in a 2 a.m. riot in front of the governor's mansion.
Earlier in the day, the governor had incurred their wrath by a pinhead act: he asked the State Board of Regents to forbid the athletic teams of the university system of Georgia (e.g., Georgia Tech, the University of Georgia) from participating in games against any team with Negro players, or even playing in any stadium where unsegregated audiences breathed the same air. 

"The South stands at Armageddon," brayed Griffin to the regents. "The battle is joined. We cannot make the slightest concession to the enemy in this dark and lamentable hour of struggle. There is no more difference in compromising the integrity of race on the playing field than in doing so in the classrooms. One break in the dike and the relentless seas will rush in and destroy us."* 

The governor had a specific game in mind: Georgia Tech had contracted to play the University of Pittsburgh in New Orleans' Sugar Bowl on Jan. 2. Pitt has been selling its block of tickets on a desegregated basis, and Bobby Grier, a Pitt reserve fullback, is a Negro.
Judging by the current state of Atlanta, Memphis, Birmingham and hundreds of other southern cities and counties (not to mention American cities like Philadelphia, Baltimore, Detroit, St. Louis, Cincinnati,  Milwaukee, Cleveland, Buffalo, etc.), the dike burst everywhere in this once great nation.

All of these cities are awash in Black crime, with abandoned and devalued property (both residential and commercial), empty business districts, and lush in potential Black recruits to fill the rosters of SEC teams. White people do everything to avoid Black people, save when it comes to filling roster spots on their beloved alma maters football squad.

I've read more books and articles on the history of college football and the illustrious histories of the storied programs then I care to admit. This week, I will preview each of the SEC teams (basically, a racial history of the team, the school, etc.), plus I will discuss Notre Dame, Brigham Young University, Boise State, the University of Wyoming, the University of Washington, Georgia Tech, Ohio State University, and the University of Texas. 

It's going to be the most radical week ever at SBPDL. It might not be for every regular reader, but you learn more about why we live in Black-Run America (BRA) this week then all prior 130 weeks combined. 

Fitting, the University of Georgia and the University of Ole Miss both open up their 2011 schedules against teams sporting majority white starting lineups. Just like when an integrated Southern California came to play a lily-white Alabama (and out-manned Crimson Tide team) in 1970 and won convincingly - though BAMA would win the next year with only two Black players against that same USC team - in Birmingham, Boise State and Brigham Young University have the opportunity to show that white boys can win in the south in sports outside of baseball. 

BYU represents what all colleges and universities in America once looked like, sporting an Honor Code (that Black people hate) and sports programs that are majority white and reflect the majority of the students. Certainly, BYU represents what the SEC schools all looked as late as 1971. Just as BYU basketball star Jimmer Fredette was made fun of for being a white boy competing in the Black world of basketball, BYU football players have received scorn from Sports Illustrated and other outlets for playing white boys.

Daniel Sorensen, the starting strong safety for BYU, dared to point out that a bunch of white boys from Provo are getting ready to head to Oxford - he didn't state that the crowd will be 99 percent white - and play a team of largely unqualified Black athletes. Read The Blind Side by Michael Lewis or Meat Market to learn about the academic titans Ole Miss recruits. Here's what Sorenson said to the Daily Herald:
"The purpose of BYU, why we're here and why we're playing – and where we're trying to go with this program. It kind of fires you up. It kind of gets you excited.

"To go out there and play for a specific purpose of showing people that we're playing for more than football. This is a faith-based university and we're trying to represent that. The players, and the flag bearers.
"What if we go out there and dominate (at Ole Miss, Sept. 3) and people start seeing us? And they put us on the map, and we're on ESPN. And they start wondering who these kids are – what are they doing with their lives, and why are they so good?

"And maybe a bunch of white boys out there go down and beat up on an SEC team, a big, physical team like (Ole Miss). If we go in there and dominate, what does that say? It starts raising questions and curiosity.
"It starts making things interesting. Getting the pot stirred, and what not. Shoot, that's fun. That's what we're out here to do. We're out here to turn heads. We're out here to change the norm of BYU and what people think of us.

"I would like to see people start fearing us. I don't know. Kind of looking at BYU as a dominant team. Especially the defense. Nobody is going to want to run against us. Start setting that respect
"This is exciting. I can't wait to go down to Ole Miss."
"White boys." What a seditious statement! How dare someone notices that BYU is predominately white (one of the most monochromatic teams in all of college football as Sports Illustrated called them), especially a lily-white player like Sorensen! 

The SEC is perceived, by the entire country, as a Black conference, though Black males probably make up less than 2 percent of the enrollment of each of the 12 schools general student body population. They just don't have the grades to get in, unless the standards and qualifications for enrollment are lowered. 

Remember that current San Diego Chargers tail back and LSU legend Jacob Hester fought massive discrimination from predominately Black SEC defenses back in 2007:
Later in that same article, a telling statement was made by Hester, as he related a tale about Black people and their defense of the ownership of the tailback position:
"Still, there have been other instances in which Hester has removed his helmet without meaning to pull a fast one—like when he's trying to towel off the part of him that is most an anachronism: his white face.

"The fact is, in today's game, it's rare to see a white running back playing the role of dominant rusher on a college football team, let alone a national champion. And Hester
hears about it. In 2006, after shedding his headgear during a first-quarter timeout against Tennessee, Vols linebacker Jerod Mayo reacted as if he had seen a ghost. Said Mayo to Hester, "Shouldn't you be playing running back for Air Force?' "
The Air Force Academy fields one of the whitest teams in college football because few Black males have the academic qualifications, and high enough SAT/ACT scores to garner an appointment or scholarship there, or the dedication to stay the whole four years (if you leave the AF Academy after two years there, you owe the government your tuition back).
Peyton Hillis, a University of Arkansas graduate, faced (faces) the same type of discrimination from predominately Black NFL defenses

For daring to say "white boys" Sorenson has been blasted in the media. It's not like he called himself a "fucking soldier" like Black University of Miami tight end Kellen Winslow did in the early 2000s. 

Jason Franchuk, who wrote the piece with the quoted "white boys" statement, had this to say in a subsequent article:
Readers that wrote me directly apparently cringed at the quote and weren't thrilled with Sorensen's choice of words. They also admonished me to "be more careful" next time.
Here's part of my response to one reader:

However, I think Daniel's words were a lot more passionate -- and
not really offensive. He spoke from the heart about his excitement
for this season. What he believes the team can accomplish for
itself, and for the school. As for the "white guys" comment -- I
wasn't printing it to produce controversy. Let's face it, fair or
unfair, there are some absurd stereotypes in sports. Daniel, I
think, wants to break them down. Why is it that, even in BYU's best
recent years (or Air Force for that matter), "team speed" is never
one of their strengths? Why is it that Ole Miss absolutely has to
automatically have that advantage? I don't think Daniel believes
HIS team is "just a bunch of white guys." I think he, and
teammates, recognize that's the view point from the National
General Audience (at this point). Going to Ole Miss, SEC Country,
to start the season on ESPN -- I think he is giddy at the
possibilities of breaking that down. I thought the words were
earnest and passionate. Frankly, I'm surprised they're causing such
a uproar of racism. He's not a racist. Just a passionate,
happy-go-lucky kid who wants to show the world that he believes BYU
is really, really good on any level of distinction.
BYU is a predominately "white boy" team
Having more "team speed" is how people always describe the SEC, because it has more Black players. The perception being that whites are slower and not as athletic. Why is it that so few Black athlete-students graduate from college again? There was a day when white student-athletes from Auburn, Alabama, the University of Georgia, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Florida, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Louisiana State,  and Kentucky would go on to be doctors, lawyers, or prominent businessmen. A time when the legendary coaches like Shug Jordan, Vince Dooley and Bear Bryant were trying to not only win, but shape and mold future community leaders as well. 

Now, colleges recruit players that have a tendency to get into trouble. Most of those players are Black, as we learn from The Orlando Sentinel's Shannon J. Owen's (or Sports Illustrated's report on crime and college football):
Journalists and sports pundits alike have criticized, analyzed and hypothesized about why the system of college sports is breaking down at length in the past week. But we've been ignoring a big black elephant in the room. 
High profile football players caught in the center of booster controversies are disproportionately African American.
 USC's Reggie Bush, Oklahoma State's Dez Bryant, Georgia's A.J. Green, Alabama's Marcell Dareus, Auburn's Cam Newton and the latest poster child of "amorality" in sports, Terrelle Pryor of Ohio State, have all become infamous for proven — or sometimes unproven — cases of having friends with benefits.

We've seen public disgust directed at these athletes and now even NFL commissioner Roger Goodell is exposing his frustration with NCAA rule-breaking by punishing Pryor with a five-game suspension.

Oddly, Goodell didn't share this same outrage against Pete Carroll when he bolted out of USC's embattled football program to the Seattle Seahawks last year.

Black athletes who break the rules are more likely to face a harsher judgment in the court of public opinion or — even worse — Goodell's court. The facilitators of cheating, many of whom happen to be white, move on to NFL jobs or cushy TV jobs with significantly less criticism.

I have to wonder, does this discrepancy represent an underlying prejudiced attitude towards African-American athletes?

Contrary to popular belief, African-American men don't make up the majority of college athletes. According to the 2009-10 study from the Institute for Diversity and Ethics in Sports, black men made up just 24.9 percent of all college male athletes.

Equally interesting is the fact that black male athletes don't even comprise an overwhelming majority of Division I football players. Until last year, white athletes made up the majority of college football players since the 1999-2000 season. Black and white athletes currently share near equal representation at 45 percent, with African-Americans holding a slight edge at 45.8 to 45.1 percent.

I don't believe high profile black athletes are the only group of rule-breakers. I do believe they're more likely to get caught.

Given the string of high profile cases involving black football players, I spent hours conducting research, speaking with multiple sociologists, a former USC linebacker and even a college runner to determine if African-Americans really are breaking the rules more and if so why.

Ramogi Huma, president of the National College Players Association and a former linebacker at USC, summed up the questions best.

Cheating often takes place behind closed doors so it's impossible to determine who is doing what.
"You only know what comes out," he said.

It's not a stretch, however, to believe black athletes are targeted more by rogue agents, boosters and runners. Black athletes in skill positions like wide receivers, running backs and — in the modern era of college sports — quarterbacks are more lucrative and visible, which translates to greater opportunity for temptation.

Race aside, there is a long history of high-profile athletes receiving and asking for benefits. Most of them see this as an act of rebellion against a college system producing millions on their likeness and image.
But, as proven, this type of rule-breaking doesn't bode well for the image of black athletes.

"I think there does tend to be a perception that African-American athletes and African-Americans in general are more prone to criminal behavior and that might encourage certain individuals to approach them and perhaps not approach other athletes," said Timothy Davis, a law professor at Wake Forrest University who has authored several books about sports, business and race.
Characterizing an entire race of people based on the actions of some is prejudiced. And the reality is that we live in a prejudiced world.

I cringed when hearing that one of the United Kingdom's largest media providers, British Broadcasting Corporation, allowed guest analyst David Starkey to go unchallenged on his thought that "whites have become blacks" in reference to the disposition of rioters in London.

The inference here, of course, is that black people symbolize deliquency. Apparently, some of those rioters had been infected with "blackness."

As I see one high-profile athlete after another vilified for rule-breaking, I wonder if this same perspective about deliquency and blackness is being applied to college football.

I'm not condoning cheating, but I do hope the attitude towards corruption in college sports is not black and white.
It's not "white boys" getting into trouble (and if they do, normally a bunch of Black guys got them in trouble like at Auburn and LSU recently), but it is white boys keeping those graduation rates up. 

"White boys", Armageddon, and sports; it all comes down to college football being the tool that allowed Birmingham, Atlanta, Memphis, Columbia, and hundreds of other southern cities and counties to be completely turned over to the Black Undertow and corrupt Black city leaders and their Disingenuous White Liberal (DWL) enablers. 

When Boise State plays UGA this coming Saturday in Atlanta at the Georgia Dome and BYU kicks-off against the Mississippi Black Bears from Oxford, remember that Boise State and BYU reflect what SEC football teams should look like. 

As you'll learn this week at SBPDL: very few, VERY FEW of the Black athletes receiving free tuition to SEC schools have the grades or academic qualifications necessary for enrollment, especially at a school like UGA.

 










79 comments:

Stephen said...

Consider me a BYU fan now. I grew up cheering for the Gators. Fuck em I say. The SEC has betrayed Whites.

SwampThizzle said...

When will you sportsfans give up already? Sports are for dumb people. Period. The intellectually incurious. People who naturally tend to gravitate toward the limited context and rules that organized sports provide in spades (no pun intended; no, really) Black people are dumb people. Nobody likes "spoats" like black people. Let them have it. Like they have "chitlins." If whites didn't watch sports by the hundreds of millions, then mentally retarded black street thugs wouldn't be given full-ride scholarships and degrees they couldn't have possibly earned and schools could focus on, you know, education. Dumb people have no business in colleges and universities. Dumb people like sports.

Anonymous said...

Please kill the Michael Vick sound loop. It is driving me crazy.

Anonymous said...

I agree with the unwanted sound loops. I have to turn my sound off and then when I want to watch a linked video, I can't hear it unless I leave SBPDL while I watch it. At least give us a way to disable it at the top of the page.

Otherwise, this is a FINE site. Keep up the important work!!

Ed

Anonymous said...

Swamp - you are not accurate. I was an All American high school and college athlete, and was at the top of the class at two of the nation's top 10 schools - undergrad and grad. I was summa cum laude in grad school, with more honors than I ever could have dreamed of obtaining. Many of my teammates had similar experiences (admittedly, the schools I attended were not SEC athletic factories, although I regularly competed against them and did well).

And I was very intellectually curious, and so were many of my peers, including a few black athletes. The biggest problem is time management at top level Division 1 sports, so intellectual pursuits often take a back seat. But many of us struggled to be intellectually adept, and again, I don't buy your generalization.

What bothered me in particular about many black athletes was the attitudes of the schools themselves, which was the same at both the high school and college level. They did not make black athletes accountable, and conflated staying eligible or cutting corners to give the appearance of attainment with real education. Getting a scholarship to a Div.1 school is a huge privilege, and yet so many black athletes were permitted not to treat it as such. Entire majors such as recreation or family life or sports administration have been created for them, and it really is a shame.

Note that I would not expect many of these athletes - coddled as they are and from homes with parents with limited educational backgrounds themselves - to be academic superstars. But they should be real students - otherwise college is just an exercise in exploitation for the schools and the athletes. Of course, imposing real academic standards would bring about cries of racism. But make no mistake - the culture would be changed and some would actually rise to the occasion. A rising tide lifts all boats.

B. Herder said...

NO!!!!!! I do NOT wanna hear some goddamn imbedded soundtrack, sound loop, sound ANYTHING, that I can't turn off! Get rid of that shit!!

Anonymous said...

I'm with SwampThizzle. WTF is up with all this crap about football? News Flash: football is a ball game. That's BALL, as in the toy, and GAME as in playing. It is an activity created by children for the purpose of entertainment. In the great scheme of things, it is irrelevant. I myself played football as a schoolboy and was a huge sports fan as well, but for Pete's sake, who cares now? Gangster Thug Squad in Green scores more points than Gangster Thug Squad in Red -- so what? Big deal! Who cares? What difference does it make? NONE.

And it's not just this blog. Several of the others have switched to all-day/every-day SPORTSSPORTSSPORTS. Well, here's my two cents: I do not give a tinker's damn which team of 'roided-up low-IQ jocks wins some national championship. I'm willing to bet most of the rest of this site's readers feel the same.

Not that it matters. Your blog, your rules, Mr. Kersey... but when I come here, I want to read about racial consciousness topics. If I want !!!!24/7 GRIDIRON MADNESS!!! , I'll zip on over to espn.com. I'll check back here again when football season is over.

Stuff Black People Don't Like said...

Hmm, I thought this was from a racial point of view.

The movers and shakers of most communities in the south (and for that matter, the entire country) attended a major university - either an SEC or ACC school - and closely follow college football for a number of reasons.

Guess what? Most of the teams were all-white 35-40 years ago.

The schools are still almost 85 - 90 percent white.

People with influence travel to their alma mater's on fall Saturday's and tailgate and socialize with family, friend's and old fraternity buddies. They make business contacts, etc.

I can't begin to tell you how many people have read something I've done about college football and said in an e-mail, "My buddies and I talk about this all the time privately at our tailgates."

It's only the next week that we will discuss college football. I understand why people would want to turn off their minds to sports, but you can't.

It's just like popular culture/tv/movies. I read Entertainment Weekly every week so I know what's going on when I talk to friends, family, co-workers, etc. about normal topics.

Discard said...

Regarding sports and intelligence: I am not a sports fan, but my intelligent and capable brother is. Clearly, there is something there to engage a superior mind. I believe that it's something like the appeal of chess.
My father taught me to play chess at about age eight. Is chess a child's game? No, but the mechanics of it can be taught to a child. With experience, a much more sophisticated understanding grows. So it is with sports. A child can get the basics, but only an intelligent adult can grasp the deeper subtleties. Of course, a great many not so bright sports fans go all their lives with no greater understanding of the game than the typical 19 year old, but there are a lot of people who enjoyably remain mediocre chess players too. Don't judge the game itself by its less gifted followers.

Anonymous said...

Football is the opiate of the masses, there is no denying that.

discard said...

If football is the opiate of the masses, show them that it's been adulterated. If you want to enlighten people, start with what they already know. That's basic teaching, arithmetic before algebra.

Van said...

The football/chess analogy is fitting. Watching Green Bay's approach to the Eagles & Vick in last year's playoffs was great. In years past, the approach to Vick had typically been to take away his running and make him throw.

Last year, with the great receivers on Philly, Vick was throwing well. So GB took a lead, then let Vick have short runs and short throws, but took away the deep pass. Clock runs down as Philly tries to keep pace with GB's offense. Then, late in the game, when Philly needed points, GB tightened up close, and forced Vick to go deep. His accuracy is bad, and he forced the ball leading to INTs.

Brilliant game plan from kick-off to 0:00. Executed perfectly by the players. Brains and brawn.

Anonymous said...

Old-line SEC fan here. I'll say one thing. You are very daring to criticize the SEC and college football in general for having so many black players. I've seen comments at the Knoxville News-Sentinel's University of Tennessee sports site like:

"You need thugs to win and you have to have a coach who can recruit and deal with thugs."

Or: "The 1971 Tennessee team couldn't beat Carson-Newman if they played today."

Have any Tennessee fans told you by email of talking about this at tailgates? The last time I heard any Tennessee fans (which I have been since the late 1950's) complain about too many blacks was the early 1980's. A columnist unctously wrote that Georgia (with Herschel Walker) and the other SEC teams were also heavily black.

Baldowl said...

I discarded sports years ago, precisely because it seems to be the only area in which Blacks can excel. How can it surprise anyone that white people will promote Blacks in this area? Blacks are natures clowns and performers, born for the stage. Of course they're better at sports.

Anonymous said...

When will you sportsfans give up already? Sports are for dumb people. Period. The intellectually incurious.

That didn't always used to be true. Before BRA, football and basketball players were expected to be student athletes. Many former Presidents and CEO's played football in college. The athletes at schools like BYU and Duke are also intelligent.

Like you, I no longer watch sports like football and basketball. I cannot relate to the thuggish, simian players in those sports.

Anonymous said...

The movers and shakers of most communities in the south (and for that matter, the entire country) attended a major university - either an SEC or ACC school - and closely follow college football for a number of reasons.

Reason #1: THEY ARE RETARDS

I understand why people would want to turn off their minds to sports, but you can't.

Of course I can. I have been doing so quite successfully since 1975. Sports are nonsense -- circuses for the masses in the Roman style. I don't give a hoot about any of them, and I am surprised that you do.

Anonymous said...

Sound loop?  What sound loop?

Flashblock is your friend (gets rid of flash ads too).

Amarilloan said...

Always go with what you know. I personally have never cared for sports. Most guys I know love 'em.
Kersey's specialized knowledge allows him to point out the insanity of multi-cult "Big Sport".

I never connected the destruction of the environment to white flight. Kersey is tying alot of stuff together that more of us should have been seeing all along.

I also enjoy this blog being prole white friendly. There are many great hbd blogs, but most are way too snooty for me.

I enjoy learning from the high brow "engineer" all the way to ms. sheila. Much success to all of ya'll.

Keep up the good work Kersey. You have the sports analysis thing down.

Anonymous said...

I agree with swawpfizzle...yeah it's cool if you are the one playing, but I don't get why people care about watching professionals (college and pro) play.

I don't care if the players are black or white - why do you care about watching some OTHER guys play? What do you get out of it?

Anonymous said...

"I don't get why people care about watching professionals (college and pro) play."

For the same reason people watch ANYTHING on tv, or the movies...

It's entertainment.

You really needed to have this explained??

"I don't care if the players are black or white"

Well, if you don't understand why people watch in the first place, then OF COURSE you don't fucking care if the players are black or white.

"What do you get out of it?"

It's entertainment.

Any more dumb fucking questions?

Svigor said...

Brilliant game plan from kick-off to 0:00. Executed perfectly by the players. Brains and brawn.

That's about as brilliant as bunting. Seriously, you just described playing your D long for most of the game, then switching to short with the lead as the clock runs down as "brilliant." Forcing consistency, patience, and repeated success from a guy like Vick for 3.5 quarters, then forcing long-ball accuracy for .5 quarters, is "brilliant"? You should have seen some of our hide and seek games from the old neighborhood. You'd be at a loss for words.

Fayette White Guy said...

Okay first, sports are entertainment. All of us I'm sure have our intellectual pursuits, but there is more to life than said pursuits. Guys have a predisposition to enjoy athletic competition.

Looking forward to the GT coverage. I may be heading down to GA for the holiday weekend, including a BBQ at my sister's place for the UGA game. "To Hell With Georgia!"

Anonymous said...

"If whites didn't watch sports by the hundreds of millions, then mentally retarded black street thugs wouldn't be given full-ride scholarships and degrees they couldn't have possibly earned and schools could focus on, you know, education."

The entire subject in a nutshell. How aware of people of this simple fact? And if they're aware, why aren't they furious?

Discard said...

I would bet that the proportion of sports fans who have played ball is much larger than the proportion of classical music fans who have played an instrument.
Why would anyone want to listen to somebody else play the violin?

Anonymous said...

Because it takes talent, skill, and inspiration to play a violin. All it takes to play football is 350 pounds of meat and 80 points of IQ. Plus a helmet.

Every dollar spent on sports goes into the pockets of the people who own and run BRA. That's a fact.

500 years from now no one will care if East Asshole State vanquished Lee Harvey Oswald Univresity 45-42 in the Kotex Feminine Protection Bowl. They'll still be listening to Bach's second cello suite, though. CASE CLOSED.

Anonymous said...

Why would anyone think that sports are for dumb people only? In the old days it was expected that a citizen of a country fight when called on by that country, which was an honor. Any sport in its simple form is a preparation for war that develops skills in peacetime. No more no less. Non-violent people are not the norm for 10,000 years of known human history and are doubtful to last when countries and the world revert back to their normal state. The question is how to find an equal balance between white and black which is a disadvantage to whites only. R

Van said...

"That's about as brilliant as bunting."

The word brilliant may be a bit much, but when coaches figure out the the strengths and weaknesses of an opposing team, and can come up with a game plan to use the opponent's strengths against them, it is impressive. I enjoy the strategy and game planning of football - there's a hell of a lot more to the game than who has the biggest and fastest dumb jocks. In fact, I enjoy the strategy more than the big hits and other highlights.

I must agree with some of the other posters, though. The players are making it harder and harder to care about the game.

"You should have seen some of our hide and seek games from the old neighborhood. You'd be at a loss for words."

Its always easy to be a dick from the safety of your keyboard. We are, more or less, on the same team, you know.

Anonymous said...

Why would anyone want to listen to somebody else play the violin?

Why would anyone want to watch a half-dressed man throw a ball into a hoop or a bunch of men in tights chasing a ball around?

Anonymous said...

The entire subject in a nutshell. How aware of people of this simple fact? And if they're aware, why aren't they furious?

Sports fans are retards

Anonymous said...

"Why would anyone want to listen to somebody else play the violin?"

LOL Beautiful!

Whiskey said...

As Steve Sailer has noted on his website, since the 1980 Moscow-boycott Olympics, all the FINALISTS (not the medalists, but the men in the final race) for the Men's 100 Meter Sprint have been of West African origin. ALL OF THEM. Running fast is not cultural, it is genetic.

The SEC recruitment patterns are there because when you want: the fastest, strongest, most explosive athletes, they will be 95 times out of a hundred, of West African origin. This is why there is so much competition for them, and hence recruiting scandals. They are the best athletes, no question. Out of the Combine times, men of West African origin hold the top 25 times every year, season after season. There is a reason that the NFL is 65% Black, and the NBA is 90% Black. At the highest level of athletic performance in these sports -- Blacks make up most of them.

Now, skill and being a good player (as opposed to a great athlete) is a different thing. Steve Largent was your typical White player. Slow, not very explosive, and significantly less strong than his mostly Black coverage. Why did he find the endzone with the football so often? Superior skills, honed from endless practice, centering on body control and extremely disciplined route-running. He could not out-run coverage, but could make plays with great hand-eye coordination, body control (keeping the defender away from the ball) and a disciplined route-running approach (never dogging it, keeping defenses honest).

As long as NCAA Football is focused on getting the best athletes, yes dominant Black teams from the SEC will dominate. BYU is very likely going to be dominated, completely, because they don't have the speed, strength, and explosiveness of even Ole Miss (which has not been very good for a long time). And of course you'll have recruiting scandal after recruiting scandal, because the competition for guys who are very rare in their athletic gifts of speed, size, strength, and explosiveness will remain intense, and these guys will be from poor, Black, and mostly single mother families who frankly won't give a damn about the university or tradition or team.

Can this change. Yes. But it will take the "Moneyball" revolution that we saw in baseball to make it happen. College teams will have to recruit football players, as opposed to athletes, able to quickly grasp AND EXECUTE various offensive and defensive schemes AS A TEAM to neutralize athletic dominance by teams constructed around a guy like Cam Newton or Terrelle Pryor. Take market-undervalued players, who have attributes also undervalued and not just win but dominate. Recall the NCAA limits practice, and the nature of football also does (full contact is required to get tackling down, but creates injuries that can leave key players out a season or more). Will this happen? I don't know. Maybe. If it does I'd look at other lower-tier NCAA schools wanting money from winning, and unable to compete with big-time recruits like Newton, making rule changes punishing teams that take academically unqualified athletes and/or engaging in violations ala Bush/Pryor or the guys at Oregon.

There are a lot more Akrons, Toledos, Wyomings, Boise States, Kentuckys, Marshalls, Northwesterns, and San Diego States than SEC/ACC powerhouses. If they want more money (and they do) the only path forward is to change the rules so they can win. That means penalizing "athleticism" and encouraging football players.

Anonymous said...

Whiskey, aren't you the wuss who a couple weeks ago said blacks would win physical confrontations because they're so big, strong and tough? You're a pussy. Shut your mouth about negro "superiority."

Dissident said...

Someone wins and someone loses and who really gives a damn?

The endless promotion of the circuses and the gladiatorial games will keep us focused and distracted until they've have bled us dry.

Somebody pinch me and let me know that this is not just a bad dream.

Anonymous said...

Sports, especially the big three, football, basketball, and baseball, have been a racial battleground forever. I can sympathize with those posters who might get tired of it, but there are key lessons to learned. Paul K is adept at highlighting these lessons and factors. Each of these sports has a distinctive historical track.

I'd like to throw some questions out there for all you sports people:

Since Mike Vick and the Eagles figure in this let's look at a couple things.

Is there a campaign being run by some people to obsolete and replace the white QB? In high school and college the game is being converted to the spread game, and style which can be said to be "black." This is system that requires an "affylete" to play QB. Pocket passers need not apply.

Is Eagle's coach Andy Reid trying to be the first coach to win the Super Bowl with a scrambling athlete? Is not Vick a different version of McNabb? Reid gets Vince Young, another athlete, to backup Vick. You're going to need two QB athletes in the NFL.

Item Two.

Rush Limbaugh was correct when he said the media wants a black QB. It's the last great Jackie Robinson pinnacle. Once achieved the takeover will be complete. Furthermore, the domination of the QB position by whites is a glaring embarrassment to many.

Years after Limbaugh made these remarks he had an opportunity to have part ownership of the St. Louis Rams. A hue and cry went out over the land. A "racist" having a minority stake in an NFL franchise. Several black players had media outbursts. There were meeting, things happened, and Limbaugh was turned away, prevented from entering a business deal. For what? Having an opinion? Was there actually anything concrete he was in violation of? It may well be he simply has been declared enemy by BRA and as such his rights to a legitimate business proposition were denied.

My intention is not to take up the cause of a broadcaster. But the twists and turns of Limbaugh’s relationship with football demonstrate the power of BRA and DWLs. Every day sports media spews forth racial vomit 10x more foul and we’re told it’s fine cuisine.

If Rush was as all-powerful as many thinks he is, he would have taken his case to court and perhaps embarrassed BRA.


Item Three

In the olden days baseball was target #1. But now blacks have largely abandoned it. Why?

And why so few thugs in baseball?

Artist

Anonymous said...

"All it takes to play football is 350 pounds of meat and 80 points of IQ. Plus a helmet."

A 350-pound moron can play the violin, he just won't be very good at it.

A lot of 350-pound oafs play football, many of them are not very good at it.

Of all the thousands of college football players, only 1% will have the talent and skill necessary to reach the NFL.

If you do not see these abilities as "talent" or "skill", then our opinions simply differ.

Anonymous said...

"Its always easy to be a dick from the safety of your keyboard. We are, more or less, on the same team, you know."

Good point.

Discard said...

I can't recall ever seeing so much bigotry on this site. So you don't like football. So there are dumb people who do like football. That doesn't make all fans dumb. If football haters are so smart, they'd see the logical fallacy.
I don't like football. I hate golf. But I know perfectly capable and articulate people who like these things, therefore, the rational conclusion is that I fail to appreciate those games' virtues, not that these otherwise intelligent fans are morons.
If putting a ball through a hoop is pointless, what is the point of standing on your tippy toes and scooting across a stage with tiny steps? If sports are so contemptible, what is ballet? Dancers just jump around in pre-arranged steps set to music. What is that compared to a player who has to adjust his steps to either accommodate or avoid another player, who in turn will try to assist or thwart him? Why is the rigid format of ballet superior to the real-time improvisational decision making of a well-played game?
Why should anybody care about music? The octave is a natural phenomenon, but musical scales are not. Why should anyone care about middle C? So some fellow named Bach or Beethoven had a real knack for manipulating these arbitrary tones. Do they mean anything? What, exactly, can we conclude after listening to Schubert's Symphony in C Major? And why is listening to that that contrived set of sounds somehow more worthwhile than watching a first-rate quarterback connect with his receiver?
All societies have their sports and games, along with music, literature and dance. Whatever our personal preferences among these arts, we ought at least respect the other expressions of our culture. Rather than writing off the things that don't really engage us, we should support excellence in all of them. A society can't exist without its jocks as well as its chess players, any more than lawyers can keep the electricity turned on. Which is why filling sports teams with thugs instead of students is a problem for us all. Demanding academic competence is the obvious first step in that direction.

Anonymous said...

"Shut your mouth about negro "superiority.""

Negroes dominate sprinting, that IS reality. Noticing that negroes dominate sprinting does not equal "blacks are superior".

If you can't come to terms with reality, then the only pussy is You.

Anonymous said...

A 350-pound moron can play the violin, he just won't be very good at it.

A lot of 350-pound oafs play football, many of them are not very good at it.


Playing musical instruments requires intelligence. Playing feetsbawl and bakkabawl requires little to no intelligence. In fact, most college and pro feetsbawl and bakkabawl players are morons. Let's compare the IQs of Mozart, Bach, and Beethoven against that of Michael Vick, Charles Barkley, and Vince Young. You jock sniffers are using nigger logic

Stuff Black People Don't Like said...

College football scholarship limitations (85 now) has forced teams to go after the highest rated Scout.com and Rival.com high school athlete-students.

Look, you'll realize after this week is over why I have stated this will be the most radical week ever at SBPDL. It will be the racial history of the SEC, ACC, and other big time college football teams.

Attack college athletics all you want too... that's the dumbest thing you can do. The movers and shakers (alumni) of the various states in the union and big time boosters of the SEC, ACC, Big Ten, Big 12, and other conferences are all primarily white (probably 99 %) and their influence is vital to ending Black-Run America (BRA) and what comes next.

The Southeastern Conference (SEC) schools are were the last to hold-out to integration - some, like Ole Miss, were violent - and the only reason most Black people attending these schools is because standards have been lowered to accommodate the Black athletes on the football (and basketball) teams, because of the perception they are needed to win.

Anonymous said...

500 years from now no one will care if East Asshole State vanquished Lee Harvey Oswald Univresity 45-42 in the Kotex Feminine Protection Bowl. They'll still be listening to Bach's second cello suite, though. CASE CLOSED.

It's funny how these genius jock sniffers think that watching 10 blacks running up and down a court is more intellectually stimulating than the arts, music, and architecture that guided Western Civilization for thousands of years.

Why would anyone want to listen to somebody else play the violin?

Sounds like something a knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathing Dontavious or Shaniqua would say.

Anonymous said...

The SEC, ACC, Big 10 etc graduate don't run America. It's Harvard, Yale, Stanford, MIT, Princeton etc graduates that influence and run America.

Anonymous said...

Old-line SEC fan here. The search for The Great Black Quarterback has been going on for nearly 50 years. The search has LOST ground in the last decade. The attempt to use spread formations (for 20 years now) hasn't kept the QB position from being mainly white in pro football.

I saw predictions around 1975 that the majority of NFL QBs would be black within 10 years. It didn't happen. Same thing around 2001.

The white pocket passers keep getting better. This type QB wins Super Bowls.

Stuff Black People Don't Like said...

Anon. wrote:

"The SEC, ACC, Big 10 etc graduate don't run America. It's Harvard, Yale, Stanford, MIT, Princeton etc graduates that influence and run America."

Wrong. Those types run Los Angeles, DC and New York and the dying institutions whose influence is waning in real-America.

Anonymous said...

"Let's compare the IQs"

Why?? For what purpose?

When did this become an IQ contest?

No one here is arguing that pro athletes are Mensa candidates.

If you intend to avoid any form of entertainment in which the participants have lower IQ's than Bach, you're not gonna have much to do.

Anonymous said...

"Sounds like something a knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathing Dontavious or Shaniqua would say."

It was SARCASM, for fuck's sake.

Anonymous said...

"I saw predictions around 1975 that the majority of NFL QBs would be black within 10 years. It didn't happen."

It will never happen.

Intelligence and quarterbacking are inextricably linked.

Anonymous said...

"It's funny how these genius jock sniffers think that watching 10 blacks running up and down a court is more intellectually stimulating than the arts, music, and architecture that guided Western Civilization for thousands of years."

No one said it was more "intellectually stimulating".

You made that up.

Anonymous said...

Wrong. Those types run Los Angeles, DC and New York and the dying institutions whose influence is waning in real-America.

Wrong - the Ivy Leagues run all the corporations, popular media, and control the government.

Anonymous said...

If you intend to avoid any form of entertainment in which the participants have lower IQ's than Bach, you're not gonna have much to do.

If you intend to watch only entertainment where the majority of participants have the IQ's of retarded people, keep watching feetsbawl and bakkabawl. You are the jock sniffer who is comparing feetsbawl players to violinists.

Bread and circuses for the morons while the politicians destroy the nation

Anonymous said...

Intelligence and quarterbacking are inextricably linked.

That's the same thing they said about playing point guard. Now you have retards like Michael Vick, Vince Young etc playing QB while fat stupid white guys buy their jerseys and worship them.

Anonymous said...

Having read both sides of this argument, I have concluded that this site is no longer about Stuff Black People Don't Like. It is about football, a kid's game. Well, frankly, I don't give a shit about football.

I therefore take my business elsewhere. Maybe I'll visit again when football season is over and we can talk about, you know, something serious rather than a meaningless game.

Discard said...

Anon at 8:18 PM: Playing a musical instrument fairly well does not require a lot of brains. That's why children can do it. Any kid, living in a home where playing music is expected, will learn to play, just as they learn to talk. There are some people who are just not very bright, but who play fluently. Maybe they play popular works instead of Beethoven sonatas, but still far beyond what most people can do. Diligence and a love of music matter more than intelligence.
Of course most athletes are morons compared to Bach, Mozart, and Beethoven. So are most cellists and oboe players. So what? How many musicians are as smart as Casey Stengal or John McGraw?

Anon at 8:43 PM: Speaking of Western Civilization, what about Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle? Herodotus? Epicticus? All were participants and fans of the Olympics, and Plato was even a champion. Were they jock sniffers?

Metrosexuals are such snobs.

Van said...

"'Its always easy to be a dick from the safety of your keyboard. We are, more or less, on the same team, you know.'

Good point."

I don't want to be taken too seriously on calling the guy a dick. Perhaps I should've put a little winking smiley emoticon after it. Or maybe an "lol."

Anonymous said...

"If you intend to watch only entertainment where the majority of participants have the IQ's of retarded people, keep watching feetsbawl and bakkabawl."

I don't watch either, but I do watch UFC. Now hurry up and show your maturity by repeatedly calling me "jock sniffer".

Anonymous said...

"That's the same thing they said about playing point guard."

But since basketball and football are two entirely different sports...so what?

Anonymous said...

"I therefore take my business elsewhere."

So what?

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Anonymous said...

Anon at 8:43 PM: Speaking of Western Civilization, what about Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle? Herodotus? Epicticus? All were participants and fans of the Olympics, and Plato was even a champion. Were they jock sniffers?

Good point. There's no reason at all that we have to make a choice between brains or brawn. The two aren't mutually exclusive,and having some of both confers a lot of advantages. The same race that won the battle at Marathon and fought the Persians to a draw at Thermopylae also left us The Odyssey and The Republic.

I'm not a fan of sports in general,but I cycle,kayak,and do a lot of physical activity that relates to my work. And I try to read as much as I can,on subjects that interest me,however I'm at a loss when the lunch table conversation turns to pro and college ball,as it usually does,and there's a thing that I've noticed.

The sports fans with whom I work-call it half the men on any given job-are capable of some very good analysis of the weekend's games. They can recite,from memory,statistics,rules decisions,and specific plays from games that are sometimes years in the past,and then are capable of sitting there and explaining why this play/ruling/ref call/whatever was so important and how it effected the rest of the season,etc. And for the love of all the gods,don't get me started on the men who have kids on the local high school team-those guys have hard drives in their heads.

Now here's my point.

Intelligence in sports fans in most definitely not lacking. But that intelligence ought to be used for figuring out how BRA is going to be brought to an end. Or at least some of that intelligence should be used for that,and if the folk that I work with are a fair sample,there should be plenty of brains left over to analyze the Sunday game.

Any ideas on how we go about hijacking some of those little gray cells????

Ex Gladio Libertas

Van said...

The few posters here who are hostile to sports and sports fans seem to think everyone who watches football is this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-6Tn0Ie-AQ

Most fans are not this pathetic. Most of us, whether our team wins or loses, just turn off the TV and go on with our lives. I even think referring to the team as "we" is lame.

Dissident said...

Ex Gladio.

I'm in the exact same boat as yourself. Inextricably and without fail; whenever I'm around my peers the conversation invariably turns to sports. I'm always left scratching my head?

Nothing against sports mind you, but there are certainly more pertinent subjects to be talking about. I'm a very active mid 40ish white man. I try to be an upstanding person of good moral character. I try to demonstrate what I believe is a good example of what a role model should be to the youngsters around me. In a word, I try to be a renaissance man.

Sports are wonderful to encourage physical activities and to build teamwork and healthy lifestyles.

Sports events today have become idols and circuses grotesque. Take the 'stupid' bowl, for instance? What kind of ritual that has become. Reminds me of a Roman coliseum.

Participate don't spectate.

Anonymous said...

I'm not into sports, after having spent my childhood pretending to be interested to get the attn of my father. I just fall back on my usual plan, the same I use when Rush goes into a "sports jag", change the channel and wait 'til he gets it out of his system.

Anonymous said...

"Old-line SEC fan here. The search for The Great Black Quarterback has been going on for nearly 50 years. The search has LOST ground in the last decade. The attempt to use spread formations (for 20 years now) hasn't kept the QB position from being mainly white in pro football.

I saw predictions around 1975 that the majority of NFL QBs would be black within 10 years. It didn't happen. Same thing around 2001.

The white pocket passers keep getting better. This type QB wins Super Bowls."

Still they'll keep tweaking the rules until they get what they want, which is an all black NFL. And if that is honestly what it will take to drive away white fans then good for them.

Anonymous said...

I therefore take my business elsewhere.

LOL, your "business"? Fuck off, bozo.

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I'm not that interested in sports but they are a part of popular culture and race in America. Therefore, sports are a relevant subject for this blog. And the physical is part of life to be embraced, not rejected in favor of being a pretentious, pseudo-intellectual twat.

Also, sports have been an important part of American culture and identity. The concepts of good sportsmanship, working hard, and never giving up have traditionally been taught and idealized through sports, though less so in recent years, unfortunately.

Sadly, many white racialists think they have to defend themselves from the charge of being a stupid racist by being overly intellectual and pretentious in the way they talk and write. You don't have to do that; you just have to be honest, that's all, and let the chips fall where they may.

Intellectual pursuits are all well and good but citing classical composers for cheap effect and trying to cast yourself as too good for this world is childish, self-indulgent bullshit.

SwampThizzle said...

Interesting discussion. Sorry for being so bombastic. In agreement with whoever said the Michael Vick loop was awful. The white alumni who give money to these colleges' and universities' athletic programs should be ashamed of themselves. They are traitors and the enemy of all that is good and true. They shall reap the whirlwind some day if there is any justice in the world.

Anonymous said...

Speaking of Western Civilization, what about Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle? Herodotus? Epicticus? All were participants and fans of the Olympics, and Plato was even a champion. Were they jock sniffers?

The Olympics were once every 4 years and people didn't make an industry out of it. Athletes didn't make absurd amounts of money for putting a ball into a hoop. Fans did live for the game. The Olympics were about pure sportsmanship.

Anonymous said...

Playing a musical instrument fairly well does not require a lot of brains.

You really are clueless about musical instruments. It takes intelligence to read the notes and memorize them. It doesn't take intelligence for Shaquille O'Neal to dunk a basketball or Michael Vick to run around. with a ball. RThe fact is, the kids in orchestra are much smarter than the kids on the feetbawl team. Once again, you are using negro logic. Everyone's the same, right? There are white people on welfare. There are white criminals. White people can be violent. Blacks and whites are all the same. Why do you compare the worst blacks to the best whites?

Discard said...

Anon at 4:45 PM: There were many competitions besides the Olympics. Free Greek men went to the gym regularly, part of the daily routine for many. Plato did not become a champion by showing up once every four years. Was he a jock sniffer?

Anon at 4:51: It takes no more intelligence to read music that to read words. Why should it? Not to mention the fact that there have been/are gifted jazz and R&B musicians who can't read music at all. And please don't tell me that Black jazz musicians are not really musicians.
By the way, I am not clueless about musical instruments. I took piano and violin in school.

Anonymous said...

"The Olympics were once every 4 years and people didn't make an industry out of it."

So then, the difference between good jock-sniffing and bad jock-sniffing is whether or not they "make an industry of it".

Got it.

Anonymous said...

"The fact is, the kids in orchestra are much smarter than the kids on the feetbawl team."

So what?

Discard said...

Anon at 7:37: The fact is, kids in orchestra are much more likely to be the sorts of candy-asses who would allow their clothes to be taken away by Blacks, as happened in England last week. The fact is, White people who listen to classical music are much more likely to be liberals than White people who watch football. While it does not require more than average intelligence to be a musician, it also very clearly requires no character at all.

The reason that Greek philosophers favored athletics was their belief in well-roundedness, a sound mind in a sound body. That is exactly why football teams and the like were established at the Ivy League universities over a century ago. The scholars who ran those institutions did not want to produce a bunch of clever, spineless fops, but instead men fit to lead a strong nation. A society that exalts music or painting and denigrates athletics or manual trades will be an effete society, much like BRA.
Whether on not he enjoys sports, an intelligent man can recognize their value, and see that restoring them to their proper place and former integrity is in his nation's best interest. Expelling the thugs and dullards is a first step.

Anonymous said...

Not to mention the fact that there have been/are gifted jazz and R&B musicians who can't read music at all.

Jazz isn't classical music. Once again, negro logic

Anonymous said...

The fact is, kids in orchestra are much more likely to be the sorts of candy-asses who would allow their clothes to be taken away by Blacks, as happened in England last week.

No one supports BRA more than the white pussies who worship the jock sniffers. You won't see any highly educated or cultured people wearing Michael Vick or Allan Iverson jerseys. Sitting on a couch every sunday doesn't make you a tough guy who stands up to negroes

Anonymous said...

"The fact is, the kids in orchestra are much smarter than the kids on the feetbawl team."

So what?


It was the jock sniffers who compared the intelligence of violinists to feetsbawl playas using their negro logic. You see, if there is one smart feetsbawler, then all feetsbawlas are smart. Kind of like the magic negro theory where one decent black person means that blacks and whites are equal.

Anonymous said...

That is exactly why football teams and the like were established at the Ivy League universities over a century ago.

What does that have to do with the state of feetsbawl and bakkabawl today? Those kids playing football and basketball at the Ivy Leagues are smart and athletic. They are student-athletes. The same cannot be said of 90% of the thugs playing in the SEC or Big East.

The scholars who ran those institutions did not want to produce a bunch of clever, spineless fops, but instead men fit to lead a strong nation.

They also didn't want to produce a bunch of one-dimensional illiterate thugs who could not function off the football field or basketball court. Are Michael Vick or Vince Young fit to lead the nation?

Anonymous said...

"The Olympics were once every 4 years and people didn't make an industry out of it."

So then, the difference between good jock-sniffing and bad jock-sniffing is whether or not they "make an industry of it".

Got it.


I'm glad you finally got it. When your life revolves around watching children's games, that is pathetic and sad. Those games produce noting of value and are a waste of time

Discard said...

Anonymous Sports Troll: No, jazz isn't classical music. Jazz requires the ability to improvise, rather than memorize. Perhaps that's its appeal to a number of leading classical string players, like Yehudi Menuhin and Yo Yo Ma, who have made jazz recordings. Perhaps it's more intellectually challenging than playing the same notes over and over. I don't have a real strong interest in jazz, but I have better sense than to assume that my preferences are necessarily a sign of superiority.
A rhetorical question was asked about why listening to a fiddler was a more worthwhile activity than watching football, when both are passive activities. Learn to read and follow a thread.
No one, except Blacks, supports BRA more than the educated, the same people who fund classical music. It is they who have made MLK worship the law of the land. No, they don't wear football jerseys, they put Obama stickers on their cars instead.

If you could read and comprehend whole paragraphs instead of picking a phrase or sentence here or there, you would grasp that nobody has claimed or implied that all football players are smart, or that watching football makes you tough. You might even recognize that the football posts and much of the subsequent comments are concerned with restoring the tradition of the student-athlete. Anybody here been praising SEC for filling their squads with dumb brutes? Anybody here praise Michael Vick or suggest that he was fit to lead the nation? Anybody advocate letting your life revolve around watching football or basketball? You are fighting straw men. Very impressive.
BTW, name-calling is unpersuasive among intelligent adults. "Jock sniffer"? It reminds me of high school.

Anonymous said...

Old-line SEC fan here. The search for The Great Black Quarterback has been going on for nearly 50 years. The search has LOST ground in the last decade. The attempt to use spread formations (for 20 years now) hasn't kept the QB position from being mainly white in pro football.

I saw predictions around 1975 that the majority of NFL QBs would be black within 10 years. It didn't happen. Same thing around 2001.

The white pocket passers keep getting better. This type QB wins Super Bowls.


Wasn't Doug Williams an aberration is this?

Karen Ella said...

Huh. I'm not even sure how I got here, but it was a fascinating read from all angles presented. I got lost in the midst of the 78 comments/wars, but I just have to check in and tell "SwampThizzle" to back off. I absolutely LOVE football for a myriad of reasons. Oh, and I'm a female PhD student. Guess I proved your theory wrong, eh?
Go Cougs.