Monday, August 1, 2011

#913. Walking Their Daughter Down the Aisle

Have you ever seen the film Father of the Bride? Steve Martin plays George Banks, an owner of a shoe company in Los Angeles, California, whose daughter marries into a rich Bel-Air family. Wait... in this idealized version of America (LA has virtually no Hispanics in this film), free trade and cheap labor don't exist as George Banks is able to employ hundreds and pay good salaries while third world nations are deprived of 5-cents-an-hour labor.

Just ask New Balance how profit margins are working by staying in America and not using cheap labor (via free trade) like Nike:
At the factory here owned by New Balance, the last major athletic shoe brand to manufacture footwear in the United States, even workers on the shop floor recognize that in purely economic terms, the operation doesn't make sense.


The company could make far more money if, like Nike and Adidas, it shifted virtually all of these jobs to low-wage countries.

So employees try each shift to make it up. Conversations on the shop floor are sparse at best, and the tasks at each workstation have been stripped of waste and precisely timed. Workers cut leather for a pair of shoes in 88 seconds, handle precise stitching in 37 seconds, and glue soles to uppers even faster.

"The company already could make more money by going overseas and they know it," said Scott Boulette, 35, a burly team leader who has his son's name tattooed in Gothic letters down his left forearm. "So we hustle."

Now, however, comes what may be an insurmountable challenge. The Obama administration is negotiating a free-trade agreement with Vietnam and seven other countries, and it is unclear whether the plant can stand up to a flood of shoes from that country, already one of the leading exporters of footwear to the United States.
Watching Father of the Bride - either the Steve Martin version or the Spencer Tracy one - is to get a glimpse at another country, where a vibrant nation actually existed. It was a beautiful white wedding, like most weddings tend to be in America. Then again, when your average wedding costs $25,000 and your average Black family - of which only 28 percent of Black children are born into a married household - exists thanks to the benevolence of the state, how could a picture-perfect wedding transpire?

Okay, the government could start paying for white weddings for Black people, since a disparate impact does exist between Black people and white people when it comes to weddings. The Washington Post tells us:

"Marriage is for white people." 

That's what one of my students told me some years back when I taught a career exploration class for sixth-graders at an elementary school in Southeast Washington. I was pleasantly surprised when the boys in the class stated that being a good father was a very important goal to them, more meaningful than making money or having a fancy title. 

"That's wonderful!" I told my class. "I think I'll invite some couples in to talk about being married and rearing children." 

"Oh, no," objected one student. "We're not interested in the part about marriage. Only about how to be good fathers." 

And that's when the other boy chimed in, speaking as if the words left a nasty taste in his mouth: "Marriage is for white people." 

He's right. At least statistically. The marriage rate for African Americans has been dropping since the 1960s, and today, we have the lowest marriage rate of any racial group in the United States. In 2001, according to the U.S. Census, 43.3 percent of black men and 41.9 percent of black women in America had never been married, in contrast to 27.4 percent and 20.7 percent respectively for whites. African American women are the least likely in our society to marry. In the period between 1970 and 2001, the overall marriage rate in the United States declined by 17 percent; but for blacks, it fell by 34 percent. Such statistics have caused Howard University relationship therapist Audrey Chapman to point out that African Americans are the most uncoupled people in the country. 

How have we gotten here? What has shifted in African American customs, in our community, in our consciousness, that has made marriage seem unnecessary or unattainable? 

Although slavery was an atrocious social system, men and women back then nonetheless often succeeded in establishing working families. In his account of slave life and culture, "Roll, Jordan, Roll," historian Eugene D. Genovese wrote: "A slave in Georgia prevailed on his master to sell him to Jamaica so that he could find his wife, despite warnings that his chances of finding her on so large an island were remote. . . . Another slave in Virginia chopped his left hand off with a hatchet to prevent being sold away from his son." I was stunned to learn that a black child was more likely to grow up living with both parents during slavery days than he or she is today, according to sociologist Andrew J. Cherlin.
How can slavery be called an atrocious social system when it offered the opportunity for the creation of happy, stable Black family structures, something the state has been woeful at creating and maintaining since the inception of Black-Run America (BRA) in the mid-1960s?

Black illegitimacy rates weren't that bad in the 1960s when The Negro Family: The Case for National Action was published. The power of BRA was too great for such analytical thinking at this point, and the warnings of that report were ignored. Now, we have this:
Since Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan (D.-N.Y.) 35 years ago called black fatherlessness ``the fundamental weakness of the Negro community," the subject has been hot to the touch. But, new statistics show that an estimated ``80 percent of all African-American children will spend part of their childhood living apart from their fathers." Seventy percent of African-American children are born to unmarried mothers and 40 percent of all children regardless of race, live in homes without fathers, according to the Morehouse statement.
Worse, fewer and fewer men of any race desire waiting for Black women at the altar. Reasons for this have yet to be confirmed, but theories are circulating around the Internet and Psychology Today.

A white wedding will always elude Black women (primarily because of either an absent father, a lack of funds, a deceased father: the victim of Black-on-Black violence, or that father being incarcerated) and excuses will constantly be made for why this is, as this CNN article perfectly illustrates:

My aspirations for both a career and family were set at the age of 12. I knew I could accomplish what Mrs. Allen, my fifth- and seventh-grade teacher, had. But as I approach 30 and measure the goals I had at 12 against the reality of life, the only thing I can check off that list is a college education.


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I am a statistic.

And there are millions more like me. Forty-five percent of black women in America have never been married, compared with 23 percent of white women, according to the U.S. Census Bureau's American Community Survey in 2006. Articles like the one published in the Washington Post two years ago could lead me to believe that it's because "Marriage is for White People."

The difference between Mrs. Allen and me: She was white.

The numbers, undeniably, are not in my favor. But they have never been. Born black, raised in a single-parent home and primarily educated in low-performing public schools, I am not supposed to be a success story. But giving weight to statistics in my personal life only contributes to a culture of fear surrounding marriage.
Black women are in trouble. Before the implementation of BRA's agenda in the 60s, Black families were somewhat stable - though far below that of white households - and the prospects of a picturesque wedding complete with a walk down the aisle where conceivably there. Now, the coming to fruition of such a beautiful dream are bleak:
In 1963 when Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. gave his "I Have a Dream" speech, more than 70 percent of all Black families were headed by married couples. In 2002 that number was 48 percent.

An even more alarming statistic is the increase in the number of both Black men and women who have never been married. Nearly 45 percent of Black men have never married and 42 percent of Black women have never married. More to the point, an increasing number of Black women will never get married. The percentage of Black women who are married declined from 62 percent to 31 percent between 1950 and 2002.
Stuff Black People Don't Like includes walking their daughter down the aisle; when the overwhelming majority of Black males don't even stick around to see the birth of their child, why would any of them wait around for the honor of walking their daughter down an aisle?

It is our hope that the government steps in to rectify this historic inequity and starts paying for Black weddings, so that this historic and important day in a young woman's life can be replicated in the Black community. Sadly, it is only in times of bondage and slavery that Black people can create such happy and stable homes.

So implement the George Banks Wedding Act to make sure that disparate impact no longer is seen in the world of weddings. Black women need all the self-esteem they can get; let's all chip in and pay for that perfect wedding!





84 comments:

Sheila said...

One point of disagreement with your post - those statistics on the black family (doing "relatively well) pre 1960. Black illegitimacy has historically been far higher than that of Whites, and even those theoretically married and "stable" black families began with pre-marital sex or pregnancy. The blacks most White conservatives like to cite as bright and stable, including Walter Williams and Thomas Sowell and Clarence Thomas, were raised by extended families (grandparents, aunts, etc. - read their autobiographies) even though they were technically legitimate. I feel that blaming black family dysfunction primarily on BRA and White financial benevolence ignores the social and cultural factors, proceeding from race, which are the true root causes.

Black family structure in Africa has never been primarily one of Western, Christian-style marriage. Polygamy and illegitimacy are standards there, and the males have never labored to support their offspring. They celebrated their purported masculinity as warriors, and never valued traditional Western concepts like commitment and faithfulness. Rather than arguing that black family dysfunction now is an abnormality, I would counter that the relative stability pre-1960 was the outlier, and things have now returned to their cultural norms.

Anonymous said...

Illegitimacy rates for Whites are higher than they were . In Europe-home of white people -they are about 33 % in Sweden and other welfare state Northern countries. Yes black are worse (welfare) BUT WHITES ARE not ommune to the trend of welfare ,live-in breakup relationships and emasculation through feminism

Anonymous said...

Many of the cases of black men not sticking around for their children that I've read about observed involved the women not allowing the man to stick around. It's hard to be a good father when the state and the women in general do everything possible to stop you from seeing your kids. But that's another battle.

Anonymous said...

Has everyone seen the Gerber College Plan commercial? It is absolutely absurd! In only 25 seconds it manages to disavow virtually every truth about blacks with regards to marriage, child rearing, self sufficiency, and IQ, while simultaneously presenting whites as clueless, unprepared, and inferior to blacks as parents. Paul, you must embed the video with this entry! If I was only granted 25 seconds to explain BRA to a Martian who had just parachuted down to the USA, I would simply show them this ludicrous, preposterous commercial!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwc1huyDrTA

Anonymous said...

I think it is ironic that most daughters of white men want to sleep with black dudes!

Anonymous said...

Mea culpa!

Here's the full 1 minute commercial that is, hopefully, the most absurd thing you'll see all day!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaC87137TS0&feature=related

Anonymous said...

In any freshman economic class, students are taught that the nuclear family is the base economic unit. "Households" in other words, is a 2 parent family with kids. With that nuclear family, you have a web of extended family which acts as a system of support and also as a means of capital formation. A cohesive family provides a safety net as well as a capital base. Jews, Italians, Irish, the Asians, and most Hispanics have a 2 parent household system and extended family to rely upon.

A buddy of mine owns a chain of car dealerships here in Houston. He told me that when he is often unable to approve loans to blacks or Mexicans. The reason, blacks come in with a crappy credit history so it's a no go. However, when the Mexicans come in they have NO credit history. However, their entire family network and friends will pool together their savings to buy a pickup truck in cash.

A 72% illegitimacy rate just won't cut it.

Theoderic

Anonymous said...

"Illegitimacy rates for Whites are higher than they were . In Europe-home of white people -they are about 33 % in Sweden and other welfare state Northern countries. Yes black are worse (welfare) BUT WHITES ARE not ommune to the trend of welfare ,live-in breakup relationships and emasculation through feminism."

True, but white Swedes raised in single parent homes don't seem to have the disfunctions of blacks raised without fathers. White Swedes may not get married as much as before but the father is still around (often living in the same house).

I've also noticed this with druggies. I have known white pot-heads and they are mostly functional and sane. I would hate my son to become one but they can still hold a job and live a decent life.

Not so with most black crackheads I saw while living in DC. They were crime prone and insane, often mumbling to themselves and passers-by.

Anonymous said...

Actually, this makes me a bit sad for black women. Not all blacks are evil. Some are decent people who just want what most other people want.

Anonymous said...

"Marriage is for white people."

I live in northern Virginia - perhaps the msot diverse spot in the U.S. and maybe even the world.

ALL the Indians, Asians, Hispanics and Arabs are married. Their women always manage to find husbands - even the ugly ones. I am sure they are more likely to get married than whites.

So, it isn't so much that "marriage is for white people." It is more like "marriage is not for blacks."

Actually, I may be the only one on SBPDL to attend a black wedding (co-workers of my wife). The bride was Jamaican and the groom was from Cuba. The people were nice enough but I swear to God that all the non-blacks were put together at one table near the end!

Anonymous said...

Illegitimacy rates for Whites are higher than they were"

LOL Predictable negro response:

Whites-do-it-too-whites-do-it-too-whites-do-it-too-whites-do-it-too-whites-do-it-too-whites-do-it-too-whites-do-it-too-whites-do-it-too-whites-do-it-too-whites-do-it-too-whites-do-it-too-whites-do-it-too...

Anonymous said...

"It's hard to be a good father when the state and the women in general do everything possible to stop you from seeing your kids."

Then use BIRTH CONTROL you fucking idiot.

Anonymous said...

Feminists and liberals always go ape shit when reminded that the need for welfare in all its manifestations would disappear if the marriage rate would go up to where it was 60 years ago. It is such a sore spot for them because it puts the blame for everything from poverty to crime squarely on their shoulders. Worse, the welfare class is the bedrock of the political left in this country, not only those who receive it but those who administer it. They can joke all day about religious conservatives or harp on endlessly about gay marriage but when confronted with their own responsibility in the matter all they seem to do is sputter with rage.

Anonymous said...

"Has everyone seen the Gerber College Plan commercial?"

LOLOLOLOL It never ends!

Anonymous said...

Sheila's points are all spot-on.

Great column Paul!!

Svigor said...

Correction: marriage is for white couples.

I know this white trash gal who has turned out four kids now, with two different black fathers. She has never been married. I doubt she's stupid enough to wonder why her sister got to have a wedding, and she did not. If she's anything like other women, she has marriage fantasies and it must kill her to watch all her siblings walk down the aisle, knowing she has opted out.

Svigor said...

Illegitimacy rates for Whites are higher than they were . In Europe-home of white people -they are about 33 % in Sweden and other welfare state Northern countries. Yes black are worse (welfare) BUT WHITES ARE not ommune to the trend of welfare ,live-in breakup relationships and emasculation through feminism

Don't let statistics about paperwork obscure the reality of the black-white pair-bonding gap for you. A great many of those unmarried white couples behave just like married couples, they just don't make it official. The institution of marriage and pair-bonding are related, but not synonymous.

Anonymous said...

ANON 10:57, you nailed it. The welfare class is the bedrock of the left.

Anonymous said...

Marriage has become a losing proposition for almost any man nowadays, unless he's Cinderella and she's the princess that will rescue him...never hoppen!
Why bother entering into a contract with a woman that they can break at any time, at any whim, and nearly always leaves the man with the short end of the stick?

Discard said...

If someone could provide one of those blue links that I can click on for the Gerber College Plan, I'd appreciate it. Typing in in doesn't seem to work.

Anonymous said...

To anon @ 10:56am
re : "just use birth control you fucking idiot"

This effects our society as a whole, not just the africans. Your asinine solution doesn't work for the guy who's wide divorced him, takes him to court to have $ extorted from him when the wife had broken vows, went against her word, leaves the guy and uses the full rright of big brother to peru away his kids and money. All the details may change a bit, but this happens all day, every day

Be smart

Anonymous said...

I also have attended a black wedding. 100 guests, all the white people at one table. I ran a company with over 100 employees, half of them black, and they were the only ones to get married. Of course, they had 3 kids first.

Anonymous said...

Everyone should read "Time on the Cross", an economic analysis of slavery. It demonstrates that many White workers in the North before the Civil War--especially recent immigrants--worked longer hours and lived in worse conditions than slaves in the South.

The book freaked the Usual Suspects out, for the usual reasons: It suggested that slavery, while morally evil, had redeeming aspects which included providing security and surprisingly good living standards for slaves ( compared to 'free' White workers in the North ).

White workers in the North in the two decades before the Civil War could be fired and lose everything. Slaves, OTOH, were increasingly valuable because after 1808 slaves could not be imported into the USA.

Those who owned human beings in the ante bellum South, therefore, owned an increasingly valuable labor device necessary to him maintaining his wealth and status. A slave-owner could not afford to badly mistreat his slaves, because he depended on their labor.

He was in the same position as a factory owner regarding his machines: They needed to be taken care of, not mistreated.

The lack of marriage in slavery was a factor, but as noted by SBPDL, marriage survived to a greater extent than today.

==Patrick Henry

Anonymous said...

"Your asinine solution doesn't work for the guy who's wide divorced him"

But it does work for the negro sperm-donors who perpetuate the 72% black illegitimacy rate, which was obviously the whole fucking point.

Aren't you banned?

Anonymous said...

"Marriage has become a losing proposition for almost any man nowadays"

No, it hasn't.

As always, you are trying to justify/excuse atrocious negro behavior.

Anonymous said...

For the Gerber College Plan video, go to youtube.com and search for College Plan: Parents College Round Table.

Anonymous said...

"Why bother entering into a contract with a woman that they can break at any time, at any whim, and nearly always leaves the man with the short end of the stick?"

Then stay single, don't have kids, and please STFU.

Anonymous said...

It is pretty hard for a black woman to get married when she is morbidly obese and has a mouth that would make a sailor blush

Add to that she denigrates males at every turn and the only option for any affection she will have is to bed flop with any crack head that comes along.

Anonymous said...

No fault divorce is one of the factors that have destroyed the social fabric. That, along with a general disregard for injunctions against premarital sex, and women in the workforce.

This is, however, mostly an issue for whites. In spite of what Gerber may want folks to believe (are these people high?), blacks have never been very traditional, family-wise, and the idea that there is an intact black family structure of any significance, and that they are saving for their kids' college is risible.

MrGJG said...

Out of the mouths of babes comes much wisdom.

Like the 6th grade young brother said:
"Marriage fo white people"

As a side note, now that gay marriage is sweeping the country, maybe there's still hope for the sisters.

Anonymous said...

America has become an increasingly undisciplined country and the undertow of all races are the least disciplined. The multi-generational poor have terrible, wealth-destorying values and are less inclined to get married. Of course, the black undertow is the most dysfunctional pf all groups, so the black illegitimacy rate is off the charts, but Hispanics, and whites are catching up. Whereas the white illegitimacy rate was below 15% for many decades, it's now approaching 30% thanks to trashy whites not getting hitched. That's a remarkably sharp increase in the span of under 20 years..

Anonymous said...

They were sold straight out of the jungle, where they lived in huts made of shit, had no written language, and lacked both the intelligence and the imagination to even begin to conceive of another way of life...

Fast forward to today. Other than using what the White man has created or has given to them, they are THE SAME. This IS what they ARE. The founding fathers KNEW this to be the case. Anyone with half a brain KNOWS this. THEY DO NOT HOLD DEAR WHAT WE HOLD DEAR; THEY DO NOT THINK LIKE US, OR ACT LIKE US, BECAUSE THEY ARE WILDLY DIFFERENT FROM US.

Nothing will ever bridge this gap. Not sports, not rap, not Denzel Washington, not Charles Barkley, not fancy clothes, not electing any of them OUR political leaders...fucking NOTHING will transform them into US. Nothing.

The very idea that this has to be said, is proof positive that we are doomed.

Swim said...

I wonder...if black fathers stuck around to raise their own children would that mean that:

A: The children would receive less abuse from their parents since they're sharing responsibility?

or

B: The children would receive more abuse from both their parents since they're batshit crazy and dumb as fuck?

Dissident said...

Another good book by Micheal Hoffman is, "They Were White and They Were Slaves". It chronicles childhood slavery in pre-industrial England.

Where white children were used as human chimney sweeps and many died horrible deaths of crushing and asphyxiation from soot.

So, whenever I hear blacks bemoaning slavery as that "particular institution" concerning them, I have to laugh!

Anonymous said...

Before we devolve into a conversation on marriage in general, let's remember the facts about how blacks just don't marry anywhere near the white rate. I read a stat elsewhere that currently said 50% of black men age 35 had never been married. I do wonder why no one asks if there is a difference in bond pairing ability or something within that culture that creates such an awkward arrangement. Many black women would probably enjoy a lifelong companion, but it just doesn't happen. Why does it continue generation after generation? Can't they do a mass all black tweet?

Anonymous said...

"LOL Predictable negro response:

Whites-do-it-too-whites-do-it-too-whites-do-it-too-whites-do-it-too-whites-do-it-too-whites-do-it-too-whites-do-it-too-whites-do-it-too-whites-do-it-too-whites-do-it-too-whites-do-it-too-whites-do-it-too..."



You make fun and yet have no response as to why whites are doing it, too (and, by all means, embarrass yourself by saying whites are imitating blacks or something else that has nothing to do with this 'proceeds from race' business to which you people rabidly cling and arbitrarily apply).

Your position is the much bigger LOL. I call it the 'predicament of blind faith belief'...

Anonymous said...

"Black family structure in Africa has never been primarily one of Western, Christian-style marriage. Polygamy and illegitimacy are standards there, and the males have never labored to support their offspring. They celebrated their purported masculinity as warriors, and never valued traditional Western concepts like commitment and faithfulness."


First of all, illegitimacy is a legal definition. Only within a particular context does it have value. For example, it means a lot in the States but not much at all in Scandinavia and most of Europe.

Some scientists argue that polygamy is the natural state of humans; actually, nearly all pre-Judeo-Christian and non-Judeo-Christian societies engaged/engage in polygamy. Christianity stresses monogamy, although Mormon Christians only recently abolished such a practice because it was considered unsavory by most Americans. Essentially, if Christianity is seen as valuable, monogamy will be seen as valuable; to note, these are well-defined parameters. However, that ignores the reality of human history and different belief systems.

Therefore, it is not exactly reasonable to feign objectivity while determining value when you're looking through a subjective Christianized scope.

Naturally, lack of conformation to the dominant paradigm (eg. Christianity) will cause problems, but this seems to be self-evident across all cultures. 'Commitment' and 'faithfulness' are largely nebulous and fluid social values and have no real meaning from a biological standpoint, although they are valuable within a particular sociological context.

A suggestion: generalizing the entire Sub-Saharan region of a continent makes you look stupid, not to mention failing to realize that blacks and Africans are culturally disparate gets you off on the wrong foot logically. To note, Africans (and West Indians) see themselves as completely different from American blacks, who are entirely American made.


"Rather than arguing that black family dysfunction now is an abnormality, I would counter that the relative stability pre-1960 was the outlier, and things have now returned to their cultural norms."


There is actually no reasonable basis for your 'counter'. Black family dysfunction is relative, as stated. Seeing that black family stability was the norm pre-1960 and since slave days, dysfunction's dramatic rise is most likely do to a dramatic social event, such as the crack epidemic, for example. Although BRA does not actually exist, it is reasonable for SBPDL to suggest something social, as opposed to cultural or biological, such as a BRA (although it doesn't exist), reversed several centuries of black American history, especially given that black and African are not synonymous culturally. To note, many African immigrant families are headed by married people and African immigrants are wildly successful by comparison to the overall US population...

10mm AUTO said...

Another problem for blacks is "who be da baby daddy". With so many fathers impregnating several generations (mother, daughter, granddaughter, cousin by father, son, cousin, grandson) it is impossible to really know who is related to whom. Are you really going to walk down the isle with a female you may be able to breed with next week? How do you even know she is yours? Ancestry.com is definitely a subject that is part of the SBPDL.

AmericanGoy said...

"It is pretty hard for a black woman to get married when she is morbidly obese and has a mouth that would make a sailor blush

Add to that she denigrates males at every turn and the only option for any affection she will have is to bed flop with any crack head that comes along. "

Whoa there, nelly!

There are ghetto trash hood rats (who are beautiful and sexy until they hit 22 yo) and then there are Black Women.

Anonymous said...

How can slavery be called an atrocious social system when it offered the opportunity for the creation of happy, stable Black family structures, something the state has been woeful at creating and maintaining since the inception of Black-Run America (BRA) in the mid-1960s?

This is absurd "logic". You've completely jumped the shark at that point.

Slavery was always an abomination. Tortured "logic" like this does not make it otherwise.

A guy has to cut off his hand to stay with his son and that is somehow not atrocious?

While I vehemently disagree here, I've enjoyed a lot of your other stuff. You bring a lot of interesting news and views to the table.

Anonymous said...

Of course black women will say they don't WANT to get married - it holds them back from their success being single mothers. Wait - that was the thrust of some of the linked articles.

You know that absurd moment when you realize the joke is reality, but nobody else gets it? Some of the linked articles are like that.

Here's a thought - black women don't get married because they're like a commodity. They're all too common, not valuable, and what little intrinsic value they have can be obtained easily and cheaply without consequence.

Whiskey said...

Slavery was a disaster for free men of no real means, North and South, which is why the war went on so long. Only about 6% of Confederates owned slaves. West Virginia seceded from Virginia, Eastern Tennessee tried to do the same. Grant's Memoirs make clear that most Confederates in Tennessee, Northern Mississippi, Missouri (including yes Mark Twain), and Arkansas gave up rather quickly when they suffered a defeat -- deserting to simply walk home. Their war was over. On the other side, Illinois, Indiana, Maine, and Ohio volunteer regiments fought often to the point of being wiped out. Why?

If you were an ordinary White working man, Slavery meant you could never compete and win a better life for yourself, over selling your labor vs. that of a slave. Hence not much fight in places with few slaves to be freed, and a lot of fight amongst Free Northerners. If however you were a free White man in the South next to a bunch of slaves likely to be freed, who would they take out their displeasure on? You in your lonely cabin, or the big landowner with his hired guns?

This explains the carnage on both sides -- both were literally fighting for their economic lives. Union men for no slavery degrading their wages, and Confederates not to face the fury of freed slaves. About half of men aged 14-45 were killed or wounded in the South, so that's a pretty hard motivation. Particularly since the sustained fighting was all in plantation/slave heavy East, not so much in the Mid-South with few freed slaves to worry about.

Slavery was awful. But that Black families have simply disintegrated to me says that they have the weakest defense against modern acid dissolving the nuclear family. They came into the post-War era with the fewest resources, least amount of social pressure to conform to the nuclear ideal, and the least middle class money on the table (no one wants to be worse off than their parents).

Chris said...

This site should be renamed blamedarkie.blogspot.com because that's all everyone on here does. You blame blacks for all of your problems, the country's problems, and the world's problems, real or imagined, and believe that the only way to end these problems is through something totally insane and unrealistic. This site is just the opposite to any site blaming white people for everything and believe the only way of fixing the world would be to "get rid of" whites. Before you deny it, no, it's the same thing. It's just stupid. Thank God most people just live their lives without believing in this dumb racist crap.

I've never commented before and found this site two hours or so ago. I don't know whether to laugh at it or be pissed off. Being angry isn't worth it but a lot of people get off on it (as I've read). I feel sorry for you. No one has to be best friends but when you get to the point you're calling random members of a race ugly or worthless, you probably should talk to a therapist. There's baddies in every race but assuming someone's bad because their black or white? It can't be healthy to always be so charged up with hate and anger.

It's especially disturbing when the first poster on this thread brings up Christianity. The Bible doesn't support hatred or racism. Read Galatians 3:28.

Chris said...

Comments visible after approval? I guess that one won't see the light of day.

Anonymous said...

"Actually, this makes me a bit sad for black women."

Oh, puhlease. Your sympathy is part to blame for their predicament.

Don't feel too bad for the poor black women. They have choices too, you know, they just always make the wrong one. If you start feeling really sorry for them, check out the Black Biker Week videos on YouTube. Watch the black women gyrating their asses in people's faces, and bending over to show their private parts to the crowd. I have seen too many of these lately on other blogs. Black women have no honor. They act like prostitutes and strippers and abuse their children. There is no reward in heaven for this type of behavior.

THIS is how all of the thousands of unwanted illegitimate black babies happen, and no man would want to stick around for any of this.

You are projecting you morals and values onto blacks, which is not fair. They are not able to do what you are asking them to do. Look to their motherland of Africa to see how the black race will behave no matter where they live on the planet. This white guilt pity is exactly what has gotten whites into such mess.

BLACKS DON"T WANT YOUR PITY!
BLACKS HATE YOUR GUTS!
BLACKS ARE DETERMINED TO MAKE YOUR PAY FOR THEIR DYSFUNCTION!

Marriage is not sustainable in the black collective. Nor is good credit, homeownership, education, parenting, or strong family structure. Blacks hate whites and reject "acting white", and so blacks destroy their own lives and communities while trying to get revenge for slavery and past white racism.

Midwestern said...

"No fault divorce is one of the factors that have destroyed the social fabric. That, along with a general disregard for injunctions against premarital sex, and women in the workforce. "

When will blacks start taking responsibility for their own choices in life?????
You can blame the "institution" all you want, but in the end, blacks are responsible for their lot in life. White people need to stop trying to manipulate black culture and instead, strengthen our own.

Ivan .M said...

To put it simply, Blacks in the United States have almost fully reverted to their natural, instinctively rooted behaviors. The worst is yet to come.

Archaic sub-Saharan Africans never faced evolutionary pressures to value monogamy and invest in two-parent child rearing. What they adopted as a survival strategy was promiscuity and high birthrates. This is why fatherhood and the European institution of marriage are completely alien concepts to the modern populations of sub-Saharan Africa and to American Blacks.

During my libertarian phase, I swallowed the idea that Johnson's "Great Society" and the welfare beast had been primarily responsible for the miserable conditions Blacks now find themselves in. A related assertion -- this one made by Black Men's Rights Advocates -- placed the blame on feminism and on Black women, who threw Black men under the bus in favor of the state.

However, nuanced review of the history revealed a different sequence: The rapid expansion of social programs was a reaction to the deterioration of Black society, not the cause.

Moreover, the supposed lies Black women had told about Black men going AWOL in the 1950s and 60s were actually true to a significant extent. Of course, Black women are little better and have demonstrated what awful parents they make.

So what happened? How did American Blacks achieve relative family stability in the first place? Why did that eventually go away?

Well, if Blacks have proven anything, it's that they do not embrace Western social norms unless overwhelming force or the threat thereof is applied. Slavery performed this function, as West African-descended Negroes, ever fearful of being split from their tribesmen and kin, were left with no choice but to hang on to their nuclear families for dear life.

After the end of slavery, it was segregation, discriminatory laws, and a White super-majority that kept the antisocial traits of Blacks suppressed. Once all of those constraints were removed and the Black population reached a certain size, nature set in.

Let us not forget what the Arab explorers of East Africa wrote with respect to the native men back in the 8th century:

"[they possess the nature] of wild animals... most of them go naked... the child does not know his father, and they eat people."

And what did Captain Theophilus Conneau write about the local women of sub-Saharan Africa in the 1800s?

"I have seen the tiger pounce on the inoffensive gazelle and in its natural propensity of love of blood, strangle its victim, satiate its thirst, and often abandon the dead animal. But not so with these female cannibals. The living and dying had to endure a tormenting and barbarous mutilation, the women showing more cannibal nature in the dissection of the dead than the stronger sex."

I acknowledge the existence of good Black men who are perfectly justified in flying off to Brazil and avoiding Black women. My closest friend is one such man.

On the whole, unfortunately, Blacks are not biologically designed for marriage and family. Those men and women deserve each other.

Anonymous said...

"First of all, illegitimacy is a legal definition."

Illegitimacy is a moral standard rooted in Judeo-Christian principles.

Civilizations built upon the two-parent, nuclear family structure tend to prosper. The nuclear family is the most basic building block of civilized society.

Civilizations built upon single-parenthood do not prosper, but instead deteriorate into chaos and disorder.

Midwestern said...

Brilliant, Ivan M.

Anonymous said...

"This is absurd "logic". You've completely jumped the shark at that point."

Nonsense, in spite of not being free, blacks as a whole were better off as slaves. In fact, it was this very lack of freedom that kept black crime rates and black illegitimacy low.

Also, they were provided with jobs, food, shelter, and health care by their owners, and were therefore not a burden to taxpayers.

Discard said...

Anon at 7:47 PM: Same old line. Come on, African immigrants are wildly successful compared to Americans? Only if success means propagating their genes at the expense of Whites. Look to Lewiston, Maine for wild success. I could go through your comment and address a number of things, but there's no point in arguing with a fool. But, for the benefit of intelligent visitors to this site, I'll point out a couple things.
First, polygamy in civilized societies has always meant that a powerful man might have multiple wives, not dissimilar from a fine stud horse, biologically speaking. The powerful man acknowledged his children, rather than abandoning them. Being able to support his wives and children was a sign of his power. This is known as polygyny. In Africa, polyandry is the norm, where one woman has multiple mates, and none of them has any responsibility. Sound familiar?
Second, monogamy has certain advantages and consequences, regardless of any religious origins. It promotes social stability, because it allows most men the opportunity to marry. Unmarried men are the most troublesome of humans, and in cultures that allow the rich to buy up a large proportion of the women, more force is required to keep the single men under control. A monogamous society can be a freer society, because more of its men are allowed to be adults instead of being forced to be de facto eunuchs for life. Monogamy also raises the status of women, as each one has claim to one man, rather than one eighth of a man. Compare the status of a medieval European woman to a Moslem or Chinese woman.

Discard said...

Anon at 9:46 PM: As Sistah Souljah said, "Why buy the cow when you get the milk for free?"

Anonymous said...

"You blame blacks for all of your problems"

Chris, stop being such a whiny crybaby, and pay attention, you might learn something.

Blacks commit an enormous disproportion of violent crime, including more than half of all murders in this country. This atrocious behavior is committed by blacks themselves.

Who do you think should be blamed?

Based upon a 72% illegitimacy rate, mostly to uneducated/unskilled single mothers, blacks are an enormously disproportionate burden on social services and welfare programs, paid for largely by white taxpayers. This atrocious behavior is committed by blacks themselves.

Who do you think should be blamed?

Although public education is offered for free, blacks are most likely to reject education, including more than half of all black males NOT graduating from high school. This atrocious behavior is committed by blacks themselves.

Who do you think should be blamed?

Blacks have the highest rate of HIV transmission, including more than half of all new AIDS cases, in spite of the easy access and availability of protection. This atrocious behavior is committed by blacks themselves.

Who do you think should be blamed?

Would you like me to go on?

Anonymous said...

"Anon at 7:47 PM: Same old line."

That's all she knows how to do.

Anonymous said...

"Comments visible after approval? I guess that one won't see the light of day."

Chris, if you're going to be staying, please try to refrain from your self-pitying and whimpering, it's infantile and annoying.

Thank you.

Anonymous said...

"Brilliant, Ivan M."

Agreed, absolutely profound!

black female leftist said...

"However, nuanced review of the history"

Oh, you mean history revisionism?


"revealed a different sequence: The rapid expansion of social programs was a reaction to the deterioration of Black society, not the cause."

And then you say....

"After the end of slavery, it was segregation, discriminatory laws, and a White super-majority that kept the antisocial traits of Blacks suppressed."


So, you do not see how segregation, discriminatory laws, and white super-majority had the effect of dehumanizing the black man to the point he could not support his own family, as it was suggested a real 'American man' should? Are you kidding me? If rapid expansion of social programs occurred in the 1960s and, as you suggested, were a 'reaction' to the so-called deterioration of black 'society' with the emphasis being on the family structure, then you should be honest enough to admit that those aforementioned factors instituted by the white majority--which had proliferated during the decades before the 1960s--provided the catalyst for the creation of the so-called welfare state.

Furthermore, you fail to acknowledge the disparate dynamics between black men and women in comparison to white men and women because of the aforementioned discriminatory practices set into place by the white majority. In fact, these differences caused significant warfare within the feminist movement between white and black feminists: white feminists wanted to focus on employment equality but black feminists believed this already existed for themselves. Black women often had to work outside of the home, supplementing black men's incomes due to more discrimination against black males and less against black females. Feminists universally acknowledge that work equals independence. Because men naturally want women to be subservient, regardless of the race of the men (recall: human history), black female independence caused significant problems for black men within the patriarchal context of the US, including a feeling of worthlessness and being 'not needed' by the woman to take care of the children.

Coupling this with cataclysmic social events, such as the crack epidemic, a deterioration of black families is not a surprise. In fact, if you were well-versed on actual black issues (apparently this blogger is not) you would be aware that one of the 'hot topics' is the decades-old clash between black female independence and black male masculinity, and the black male feelings of psychological worthlessness in relation to black female independence. Whites never had to deal with this because white women were always subservient to white men.

But, of course, you know very little about anything, which typically leads to baseless, pointless rants.


"Of course, Black women are little better and have demonstrated what awful parents they make."

Do you know all black female mothers? If not, use a qualifier. Any child, regardless of race, would be lucky to have a mother like mine and a mother like my mother's mother.


"Well, if Blacks have proven anything, it's that they do not embrace Western social norms"

Take note of the previous analysis. How can blacks conform to 'Western social norms' if their existence was purposely made to be different and separate from whites, the creators of those social norms? Please, as I have always said: if you have a problem with so-called black dysfunction, all you have to do is blame your forebears. They founded, fostered, and foisted upon blacks the notion of 'difference' and 'separateness' from the white paradigm. No amount of sophistry is going erase this simple fact of US history, hate to break it to you...

Anonymous said...

"So, you do not see how segregation, discriminatory laws, and white super-majority had the effect of dehumanizing the black man"

Not at all. In fact, it HUMANIZED the black man. It forced behavioral standards, decency, and morality upon negroes.

This was no small feat!

Anonymous said...

Desiree, no one reads your long-winded diarrhea, no one listens to anything you say, and in fact, everyone here dismisses everything you write.

The fact that you waste weeks/months/years of your life arguing with people who collectively think that you're a racist imbecile strongly suggests that you have a low IQ.

BTW, although your dad is undoubtedly aware that you intend for him to walk you down the aisle to marry a white male, at some point in time he is likely to become impatient, and tell you the exact same thing I've been telling you for months...

No white guy is ever going to marry you.

I'm sure there are white guys who will take you out on dinner dates, and then bang you like a cheap whore, but they're not going to marry you.

Ultimately, you can't hide who you are, and when a white guy sees the real YOU...the racist, blame-whitey harpy who excuses atrocious negro behavior...he will run for the hills.

Remember, you heard it here first.

Discard said...

Black Female Leftist: My Irish grandfather went into the coal mines at age 13. After 30 years, he couldn't stay in the mines any more and became a tenant farmer, moving every couple of years. But he saw that all six of his daughters finished high school before leaving the family to become maids. My mother went to three high schools, but still graduated on schedule. Many of us Whites can match your sob stories. Are you aware that Irish women had more opportunity in America than the men? So how come your people are so wretched?

Anonymous said...

Very well said Discard! Amen to you!

And yes Diarrhea, we all knew is was you posing as " black female leftist". You don't even know the real meaning of " The Left ", other than the inconvenient truths your limited IQ filtered.
If you were a die hard left winger you wouldn't be such a whining racist to begin with.
The prospects of blacks behaving responsibly in any society is pretty dim. They inherently do not evolve to be emotionally mature thus resorting to a childlike petulant behavior. Blacks as a whole greatly lack discipline and therefore it hinders their chances of succeeding in many domain where whites excel.
In the end they choose mediocrity and seem very comfortable doing so.

Anonymous said...

black female leftist sounds like someone that can't pass the bar exam.

rjp said...

I see all this crap on here and I can't post, don't even know how to post on here anymore. Probably will stop.

Black people kill anything they touch.

Dissident said...

Black female leftist (aka-Desiree) is hopeless.

I'd rather smash my fingers with a ball-peen hammer than try to rationalize with ingrates likes her. No matter how many facts you present she'll always rebuff them. No matter how carefully crafted your argument can be she'll argue the exact opposite. You see, to her, ALL black pathology will ALWAYS be excused away as the product of a white "super majority" and Racism (TM).

It's the same ol' tired argument that all leftists constantly use. They have nothing else up their sleeves. It's always going to be Racism(TM). They know that that can disarm most whites with that ONE simple allegation.

Every race under the sun can overcome hardship and adversity EXCEPT one. Care to guess which race I refer too?

I come from a working class family and no one has ever given my family anything for free. We've worked hard to get what we have and pay above average taxes to support who knows what.

I'm tired of the whining and the excuses. Sick and tired!!

Chris said...

"Who do you think should be blamed?"

The point is what does any of that have to do with you, as a WHITE person? It's one thing to try to get people to blame themselves for their own problems (which is fine but this site isn't exactly appealing to people outside of the far-right niche, is it?) but you are not proving why you should sit around and blame blacks for your problems! None of the stuff you mentioned has anything to do with you! You mention illegitimacy, but what does this exactly have to do with you? If you think illegitimacy is such a scourge, the best you can do is keep whites from having babies in that fashion, especially if you don't care about blacks or black children. If you claim it leads to crime in some way, what does that have to do with you as a white person, since crime is WAY more common within a race than between races? If you want to care, shouldn't you care more about the blacks being affected by that? If you talk about white taxpayers, you are funding, by NUMBERS alone, more whites and non-blacks than blacks. You mention dropout rates, but what does that have to do with YOU? You mention AIDS cases or STIs but what does that have to do with you? If you are not having sexual contact with blacks, what's your point of bringing it up? What does black women not being walked down the aisle by their fathers or being married have to do with you? Asian men are at the same level as black women.

See, you haven't explained why you feel the need to sit around and mope about how blacks are affecting you personally with that list. So what? That affects BLACKS, not non-blacks. None of the stuff affects me, as a white man. It doesn't affect my girlfriend or my sister or my mother, as white women.

It's self-evident that your only reason for being here is because you hate blacks, most likely without any non-ideological reason. Citing all that you did, when you don't even care about the blacks it affects, is so you can feel morally superior. If you cared so much and so deeply, why don't you try to do something? Instead, you want to just judge and blame every black person for the worst of their lot. We don't blame ourselves for white baddies, why are you blaming blacks for theirs?

Repeat: blacks have nothing to do with your problems, as a white person. Black problems do not actually affect you, as a white person. You don't actually care about how black problems affect black people. Therefore, you are just wasting your time hating people, even the innocent members of their race, to feel better about yourself. Period.

Chris said...

"Nonsense, in spite of not being free, blacks as a whole were better off as slaves. In fact, it was this very lack of freedom that kept black crime rates and black illegitimacy low."

You have to be brain-dead to type this with a straight face. American slavery was horrific, an abomination, an embarrassment. Blacks were not better off as slaves. It's a no-brainer that anyone who is enslaved and under constant watch will commit less crime. And how can you measure slavery's goodness based on less illegitimacy? I think any of us would rather be illegitimate or have illegitimate children than be born into slavery. What you're saying is just ridiculous.

"Also, they were provided with jobs, food, shelter, and health care by their owners, and were therefore not a burden to taxpayers."

Forced labor is not a job. Being fed like prize animals and workhorses is not food. Living in the shacks of slave quarters is not shelter. Having your welts tended to is not healthcare.

Man, you're an idiot. Slavery benefited this nation's whites, not blacks; slavery built the wealth of this nation. Slavery destroyed black morale and sense of self. I agree with black female leftist's post. You don't have a clue as to what you're talking about. American race-based economic slavery was one of the worst things in human history. Slavery before ours was nothing like what we had in the States. Slaves had more autonomy, could be married, could gain their freedom, even upward mobility. Black slaves in the US were bred like animals and treated like them or worse than them just because they were black.

You don't have to be best friends with blacks but denying slavery's evil is evil in itself.

Anonymous said...

"The point is what does any of that have to do with you, as a WHITE person?"

Chris, I'm not sure if you're being deliberately dense, or if you are truly that clueless.

Not only do blacks commit an enormous disproportion of violent crime, but they disproportionately choose white victims. That affects all white people. Did you seriously need this explained to you?

Black illegitimacy not only places a disproportionately tremendous burden on the (white) taxpayer in the form of welfare, AFDC, Medicaid, free school lunches, etc...but it spawns infinite future generations of additional dependency, illegitimacy, crime, illiteracy, violence, etc. In addition to deteriorating the social fabric, this affects all taxpayers, who happen to be disproportionately white.

By rejecting education, blacks assure themselves of a lifetime of government dependency, or perhaps even a life of crime. Either way, this places further burden on all taxpayers, who happen to be disproportionately white.

Do yourself a big favor, and read some of the history here. It may save you from asking dumb questions in the future.

Also, do me a favor, stop trying to speak for me by saying idiotic things like "Black problems do not actually affect you, as a white person".

You are not entitled to speak for me. You don't have a fucking clue how negroes affect my life.

Anonymous said...

"You make fun and yet have no response as to why whites are doing it"

Of course I have a response, you fucking idiot. I just didn't think you actually needed it spelled out for you.

Because there is a minority segment of the white population that rejects decency and morality and behavioral standards, and fails to consider the consequences of irresponsible behavior. Maybe because they are unintelligent, or maybe because they are just fundamentally reckless.

Either way, I find such behavior despicable, and I am not reluctant to state openly that whites who behave this way are TRASH.

Don't you agree that blacks who behave this way are also TRASH??

Anonymous said...

"Blacks were not better off as slaves."

Yes, they were better off as slaves.

Of course, if you disagree, you are entitled to your opinion, I'm not trying to change your mind about anything. In fact, I encourage you to continue believing whatever it is you believe, I simply don't care.

You do agree that everyone here is entitled to their own opinions...right?

Discard said...

Chris: As a group, Blacks, and Hispanics to a lesser extent, are far less productive and far more violent than Whites. They live in a world far more advanced than anything they could make for themselves, a world built and paid for by Whites. The fact that we provide a standard of living far beyond what the Darks could manage on their own affect us. Every group has a minority that does not pull its weight and has to be carried. For a family, it could be a lazy uncle, a crazy aunt, or a retarded brother. For a country, it could be just those poor souls who aren't very bright. No doubt Sweden, before they decided to import Moslems and Africans, had a number of cripples, crazies, and retards that needed the assistance of the community to get by. But in our case, we have whole nations within the nation that fit those categories. Aside from our share of stupid, lazy, thoughtless, careless, violent, White jackasses, we have a couple of large racial minorities that are also stupid, lazy, thoughtless, careless, and violent. Their First World standard of living is provided by us, the First World. If I never saw a dark in my life, their drain on the nation's resources would affect me greatly.

The reason that Dark crime passes most Whites by is that we (including you) keep our distance. That affects us too, that large areas of our cities are off limits, particularly when sometimes those areas are the places we grew up in. My father's house now has bars on the windows, a six foot steel fence all around, and two feet of weeds in the front yard. My hometown is reverting to a primitive village. What will happen when even the welfare stops?

Slavery did not enrich America. Why were the farms of the Ohio Valley so much more productive than southern farms before the Civil War? Slave labor undermines free labor, just like cheap Chinese labor undermines American labor. The Southern planters benefitted, but no other Whites did.

Svigor said...

There is actually no reasonable basis for your 'counter'. Black family dysfunction is relative, as stated. Seeing that black family stability was the norm pre-1960 and since slave days, dysfunction's dramatic rise is most likely do to a dramatic social event, such as the crack epidemic, for example. Although BRA does not actually exist, it is reasonable for SBPDL to suggest something social, as opposed to cultural or biological, such as a BRA (although it doesn't exist), reversed several centuries of black American history, especially given that black and African are not synonymous culturally.

A much more plausible explanation is that as Whites lost their spines and stopped putting pressure on Blacks, Blacks simply reverted to type. It's reasonable to suppose that the trend of Black American norms toward Black African norms is not some bump in the road (crack, welfare, etc.,), but the flowering of Black nature absent White gardeners.

You leftoids don't know how stupid you sound to people who have taken the blinders off.

To note, many African immigrant families are headed by married people and African immigrants are wildly successful by comparison to the overall US population...

You guys should really give the African immigrant drum a rest. How many of these people are there? That a tiny minority of African Blacks, the cream of sub-Saharan Africa, can muster the resources to escape their own kind for America and compare favorably with the "overall population" doesn't signify much. It signifies about as much as the fact that Whites living in Japan are more successful than the overall Japanese population. Less, actually, since about 27% of the American population is Black and Mestizo.

Anonymous said...

Oops, I forgot: SBPDL doesn't publish the comments of anyone who -- (a) disagrees with him, making good points, or (b) disagrees with his followers, making good points.

Why, SBPDL, do you have a problem with actual debate? Why do you stifle speech? Why are the only ones allowed to go unchallenged white people?

What gives? Are you a coward? I mean, why not give me the freedom to refute everything on your website, line-by-line?

Svigor said...

I'd rather smash my fingers with a ball-peen hammer than try to rationalize with ingrates likes her. No matter how many facts you present she'll always rebuff them. No matter how carefully crafted your argument can be she'll argue the exact opposite. You see, to her, ALL black pathology will ALWAYS be excused away as the product of a white "super majority" and Racism (TM).

The mentality you refer to reminds me very much of that described in Steve Sailer's "argumentativism" post. This mentality is characterized by an utter lack of honesty or introspection, and total shamelessness. In this, I find Blacks VERY similar to another ethnicity which shall not be named. The only difference seems to be IQ.

The best approach to dealing with either group in our current context (online discussions) is to approach them as objects, not people (incidentally, that's almost certainly how they're approaching you). They're to be used to teach your fellow Whites; they are not, themselves, to be taught anything. Pay close attention to how often they apologize or admit their mistakes (in an honest way, not an "eff you" way), how often they concede even the most trivial points (in their mental universe, conceding that yes, you have a point, the sky is indeed blue is not normal behavior, it's "giving aid and comfort to the enemy"), etc.

Anonymous said...

Chris

"Man, you're an idiot"

No, you are...

"...Slavery benefited this nation's whites, not blacks; slavery built the wealth of this nation"

Horse shit. Too comical to address seriously. Right up there with all the black "inventions" they didn't invent.

"...Slavery destroyed black morale and sense of self..."

What "sense of self" are you talking about, you fucking idiot? The same sense that had them living in shit huts? And eating each other? And selling each other into slavery?

We've all heard your crap too many times to count. As always, I'm quite sure you live smack in the middle of a ghetto?

Jackass

Anonymous said...

Chris, your long-winded blather is remarkably similar that of our of resident troll.

Anonymous said...

@ Anon. at 5:34 PM

The resident Troll has had many incarnations, it's a well known fact, too many to keep track of, "Chris" is just the latest one. Those long-winded blathers are her trademark, that and not knowing when to close shop.

Anonymous said...

"Why, SBPDL, do you have a problem with actual debate? Why do you stifle speech? Why are the only ones allowed to go unchallenged white people?"

Memo to The Whining Crybaby...

Every person here has been censored at one time or another, most of us take it in stride, and respect the right of the blog owner to manage his blog the way he chooses.

But there are some, mostly low IQ negroes like you, who throw tantrums and shit in their diapers and whine like they've had their pacifier taken away. It's fucking pathetic.

Just by being yourself, you have provided yet another illustration of atrocious negro behavior, and another reminder of why whites hold blacks in low regard.

Anonymous said...

"What gives? Are you a coward? I mean, why not give me the freedom to refute everything on your website, line-by-line?"

Post in on your own blog, then please STFU.

Anonymous said...

Chris has to be an alter-ego of Diarrhea. No SWPL white would bother. (now that I refresh I see I am not the only one to reach this conclusion.)

None of the stuff you mentioned has anything to do with you!

So you'd like to claim, while collecting benefits as "reparations" for your dysfunction.

If you think illegitimacy is such a scourge, the best you can do is keep whites from having babies in that fashion

The best thing we can do is make dysfunctional people, including blacks, stop having babies at all. If they stop having babies, we functional people don't have to pay to birth, feed, (attempt to) educate, incarcerate and otherwise subsidize them. We don't have to endure the crime they commit or the hostile environments they create. We don't have to lose all the real estate value they'd destroy.

If you claim it leads to crime in some way, what does that have to do with you as a white person, since crime is WAY more common within a race than between races?

Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than other blacks. This makes black violent crime more of a white problem than a black problem. We have EVERY reason to stop you! Tying the tubes of every illiterate Taquisha at twelve? Okay.

If you talk about white taxpayers, you are funding, by NUMBERS alone, more whites and non-blacks than blacks.

Let's have racial quotas for these subsidies. If 4% of whites need subsidies, only 4% of hispanics and 4% of blacks get benefits. The rest of you go on a waiting list. Of course, there should always be one-way tickets to Mexico and Africa.

You mention AIDS cases or STIs but what does that have to do with you?

Treating HIV costs about $30,000 per year. Most of that comes from public funds, aka white people.

It's self-evident that your only reason for being here is because you hate blacks, most likely without any non-ideological reason.

I live in a state that is sinking because of the burdens caused largely by blacks and their pathologies. But that's not why I'm here. I'm here because frank talk about our BLACK PROBLEM is a breath of fresh air in this society where telling the truth all too often leads to outright persecution.

Anonymous said...

At Anon. at 7:39 PM

Excellent " Mise au point "! Amen to you!

Anonymous said...

"why not give me the freedom to refute everything on your website, line-by-line?"

You've never refuted ANYTHING, and every unoriginal word you write is summarily OBLITERATED.

No one reads your long-winded blather, no one listens to anything you say, and in fact, everyone here dismisses everything you write.

The fact that you waste weeks/months/years of your life arguing with people who collectively think that you're a racist imbecile strongly suggests that you have a LOW IQ.

Did I mention that no white guy is ever going to marry you?

Anonymous said...

"The best approach to dealing with either group in our current context (online discussions) is to approach them as objects, not people"


Translation:

Since we usually can't refute our critics with anything substantive from objective sources or thinkers, the only thing we can do is go to Plan B: Name-calling and ad Hominem attacks. Dissident, words and phrases like 'nigger', 'low IQ', and any form of simian reference usually goes off without a hitch!

Whatever you do: don't use a qualifier!!!

Anonymous said...

"Since we usually can't refute our critics"

LOL Delusional, but cute.

If that's what you believe, you are certainly entitled to your opinion, I'm not trying to change your mind about anything. In fact, I encourage you to continue believing whatever it is you believe, I simply don't care.

You do agree that everyone here is entitled to their own opinions...right?

Rox said...

I'm 25, black, female and married. I say that to say this: I don't give a damn what other black people are doing in their romantic lives. There will always be people who won't do the right thing. Btw, the taxes we pay for poverty stricken people are for whites, blacks, and others who can't care for themselves. And as for that comment about black people being better off under slavery- keep trying to convince yourself of that so you don't feel so dumb. 75% of the members here are dumb as hell. I've read through this blog and I'm not even offended. I'm pretty amused by how these morons have managed to work a computer. Good job! :)