Sunday, September 7, 2014

The Forgotten "Public Caning" Controversy from 1994 in St. Louis

Back in 1990, Philadelphia experimented with Norplant to reduce the black underclass. 

Back in 1993, Baltimore experimented with Norplant to reduce the black underclass

And in 1994, with rising black-in-origin (the violence originating not from poverty or racism, but the growing courtesy of the growing black underclass) crime in St. Louis, the father of the first black mayor of the city proposed "public canings" as a means to corral growing black property crime. [Canings for Vandals Proposed in St. Louis, New York Times, 5-21-1994]:
Public caning (or punishment via the state in public) represents a step-forward to resurrect civilization.  

An alderman today proposed public caning as a punishment for graffiti vandals, saying a whipping or two had never hurt his own son, who is now the Mayor of St Louis. 
"Fining them doesn't seem to be the answer," the alderman, Freeman Bosley Sr. told the city's Board of Aldermen. "Maybe whopping them on their behind a few times might be a better message." 
The board voted 17 to 10 to hold a hearing on the idea, effectively burying it. 
Graffiti vandals in St. Louis face $500 fines and jail terms of up to 90 days. 
Apparently inspired by the recent caning in Singapore of an American teen-ager, Michael Fay, for vandalism, Mr. Bosley said youngsters did not get enough discipline at home. 
"I think you need to spank them while you talk to them," he said. "My mother whipped my tail plenty, and my dad did, too, and I've put the strap to the Mayor." 
Mayor Freeman Bosley Jr. had no comment on his father's remarks.
The first black mayor of the city might not have commented on his father's sensible policy, but Bosley Sr. would elaborate on his idea. [St. Louis alderman seeks caning for graffiti writers, Nevada Daily Mail, 5-13-1-1994]
Bosley said much of the graffiti is spray-painted by gang members. The graffiti spoils the city landscape, costs thousands of dollars to clean up and discourages people from moving into a neighborhood because it signals that gang activity takes place there, he said.  
Bosley said the canings should be held in public. "That's the only way it would work. That humiliation in itself would also be a deterrent," he said.  
Criminals would received "three or four" lashes for their crimes, Bosley said. "I don't want to maim them, but I most certainly think they should be lit up a little bit," he said. 
Whereas Norplant (or Depo-Provera) is a logical, sane proposal to prevent the continued degradation of a community, public canings as a deterrent to future criminality is also a logical, sane proposition. 

Especially for a city like St. Louis, teetering on the edge of going the route of Detroit (i.e., massive abandonment from the city by white people due to high rates of black crime, which in turn cedes control of said city to the emerging black population). 

Mayor Freeman Bosley Jr. never addressed the public caning idea his dad proposed, but he did appeal directly to the emerging black majority of St. Louis in hopes of getting re-elected. [Racial Split In a Primary Disturbs Core Of St. Louis, New York Times, 3-10-1997]:
A mayoral Democratic primary between two black candidates has ended in defeat for the incumbent and provoked some racial soul-searching here. 
The primary became a bitter fight in which blacks supporting the Mayor, Freeman Bosley Jr., accused the challenger, Clarence Harmon Jr., of selling himself to the white establishment. Mr. Harmon, the city's first black Police Chief, won on Tuesday with 56 percent of the vote, to Mr. Bosley's 43 percent. Mr. Harmon drew 94 percent of the white vote. 
Mr. Bosley, who was elected the city's first black Mayor four years ago, won 83 percent of the black vote this time, to 17 percent for Mr. Harmon. St. Louis is roughly 50 percent white and 50 percent black, but the white voting-age population is larger. 
The defeat left some Bosley supporters thinking that the city's blacks had lost an opportunity. 
''For the first time, we had a Mayor sensitive to North St. Louis and its problems: schools, crime, the infrastructure of the inner city,'' said James H. Buford, the president of the Urban League of Metropolitan St. Louis and a supporter of Mr. 
Bosley. Mr. Harmon, 57, who worked his way through the ranks of the Police Department during a 22-year career, was a popular chief who was considered to be effective fighting crime and challenging a department promotion system that depended on political connections. He resigned in 1995 after four years in the job, following a battle with Mayor Bosley over control of the department. 
 During the primary, support for Mayor Bosley was fervent among blacks. The St. Louis American, which calls itself ''The Black Weekly,'' said Mr. Harmon was ''a more subdued, palatable candidate propped up by business and white voters.'' The article carried the headline, ''South Rises Again for Harmon,'' a reference to a largely white area of the city.
Judi Roman, Mr. Harmon's campaign manager, responded: ''South St. Louis did turn out for Clarence, but it was not a racial issue for them. The issue was that they felt they had been disenfranchised by the Bosley administration.''
"For the first time, we had a Mayor sensitive to North St. Louis and its problems: schools, crime, the infrastructure of the inner city," translated, means: we had a black mayor who put the interests of the black people of North St. Louis - the very people responsible creating bad schools, the crime, and the breakdown of the infrastructure of the inner city - first.

It was Freeman Bosley Sr., whose comments on public caning, who was also speaking directly to this demographic reducing the civilization whites had created in St. Louis to nothing more than the civilization (or lack there of) black people's racial cousins create in Africa.

It was his son, the first black mayor St. Louis, who sided with those who were (to paraphrase the words of Bosley Sr.), "spoiling the city landscape, costing thousands of dollars to clean up and discouraging white people from moving into a neighborhood because it signals that black gang activity takes place there."

In actuality, that represented his constituents.

Public canings represent one of the first steps to returning civilization to inner-cities (urban environments), where the behavior of blacks has driven away the people capable of sustaining western civilization: white people.

Depo-Provera, of course, represents the first step to ensuring the problem is fixed in only one generation.


95 comments:

rex freeway said...

Try this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyersVRlEGU

Anonymous said...

Well, again, look what having large numbers of blacks in a city lead to: corporal punishment in public to keep things under control. There are issues here re "cruel and unusual punishment" but BRA wrecks such havoc on civilization such that extreme solutions seem reasonable.

Southron said...

Isn't it funny how whites are demonized for whipping, beating, and spraying blacks with water to keep them in line, then along came a black mayor who was dipping his toe into the same concept?

It's also humorous to hear blacks whine about an idiot being blown away for attacking a cop, yet the same whiners will stab somebody over the last chicken wing.

The mayor's race between Bosley and Harmon reminded me of the elections for mayor in Birmingham during the time of Richard "The King" Arrington. Arrington positioned himself as being "down with the struggle", and black challengers were all Uncle Toms.

The only thing Arrington was down for was lining his pockets and corruption.

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

Besides banning their right to firearms, what does the good Dr. Ben Carson have to say about the black underclass and their destruction of our nation?

Since the Conservatard freepers think he's the next man for the job, I want to know.

Anonymous said...

http://m.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/obama-says-he-will-unilaterally-legalize-illegal-aliens

8MM

Jeff in Palm Springs said...

You have to understand that Blacks don't approach life as we do. They have decided to do things their own way and are comfortable with their own cultural norms.

When they get their women pregnant, the men feel no obligation; i.e. that's her problem.

If Blacks are forced to turn to crime to earn a living, any law enforcement is inexplicable. If they are just trying to get by, why would you mess with them?

If they mark territory with graffiti, or vandalize neighbor's homes or property to make a point, you have no business disagreeing with how they do things.

Years ago when I ran a business, I admit I screwed up and hired Blacks.Every single time, they didn't listen to me and tried to do the job "their" way. I would explain how to take orders and forward to fulfillment. Nothing was done right. They would call supervisors and stir up arguments with people who outranked them. There was no conception of following the rules or respecting the chain of command.

Black culture is incompatible with White culture. They need to go home. I honestly believe they would be so much happier in the running sewage of Lagos, or the block-to-block daily warfare of Monrovia.

It is what it is. Getting angry or going all "Whites Only" is not the right answer. The right answer is "no blacks". If we cannot send them back, minimize the times you have to be near them or around them.

Sam said...

A guy I worked with years ago had an idea. He and his dad had a coin operated car wash in a predominately mestizo area of a nearby city. He said they were continually dealing with graffiti at their car wash. He said if anyone was caught spraying graffiti their thumb should be cut off, so they could no long hold a spray can. Sounded like a good idea to me. Just imagine all the thumbless messcans there would be.

Anonymous said...

I guess it was being brought up right about the time the American kid got whipped in Singapore?

It wouldn't work here in the states with blacks. they would all show up, like some demented form of Greek tragedy, hootin and hollerin and then after the caning the blacks would wear it like a badge of honor.

"If you ain't been caned, you ain't black mane"

Anonymous said...

I would suggest arresting them, fining them to infinity and then deportation to LA on the second offense. Let the Mexicans (Californians) have them. Nothing short of that will work.

Mr. Rational said...

It's probably too much to expect public canings to survive court challenges (it's certainly an unusual punishment, and anything involving physical pain and humiliation is arguably cruel... no matter how effective).  But what we can do is relieve the public of legal jeopardy if they exercise self-help.  For instance, non-fatal injuries delivered to vandals, shoplifters, and other petty criminals in the course of apprehending them should be broadly permitted, and both establishments and entire districts should be allowed (nay, encouraged) to banish known criminals from their premises and streets.  Enforcement of the ban should have the same immunity provisions of the apprehension law.

State law should provide for the legal defense of anyone accused of civil-rights violations while acting under such laws, and frivolous CR suits should be subject to triple damages.  There should also be strict libel/slander liability for grievance-mongers and their agents.  Every Benjamin Crump in the country should be put out of business.

Anonymous said...

Jeff in Palm Springs said...

Abso correcto ! For those who do want "white only", the only way to get there is "no black" as the necessary 1st step.

Divide & Conquer. Taking on everybody at once is just plain stupid & will lead to defeat...

Of course, those advocating "white only" right now are probably paid jewish trolls trying their best to retard our advance or completely divide & derail us.

BRA is the only enemy at this time & this place. Deal with & defeat BRA
1st & foremost.

/H hypie out \H

Semi-employed White Guy said...

Eugenics as a political strategy is perhaps the only political strategy that could possibly work to save civilization. Market it to the left as "pro-choice" and "reproductive freedom for women". The weak-minded evangelical sheep might oppose it, but who cares about them. They matter not.

PB said...

"It wouldn't work here in the states with blacks. they would all show up, like some demented form of Greek tragedy, hootin and hollerin and then after the caning the blacks would wear it like a badge of honor."

Australian abo's view going to jail as an initiation rite, and sometimes as a social event because so many of the cuzzin-brudders are in there as well.

They don't seem to have picked up on knockout game yet though.

countenance said...

Bosley Jr is now Dorian Johnson's lawyer.

Anonymous said...

Trial junkie here. The person caned for vandalism in Singapore was one Michael Fay. There was considerable whining about the sentence from the NY Times, LA Times, etc.

Then President Clinton asked Singapore to reconsider. They decided to reduce the number of strokes from six to four.

A good many Americans APPROVED the caning of an obnoxious brat.

Anonymous said...

When did blacks crime rates first surpass white crime rates? I remember in school learning about the civil rights movement about how bad white discrimination based totally because of skin color, I asked the teacher were whites trying to segregate to stay away from the skin color or because of the high crime rates, and the teacher said at that time blacks committed less crimes than whites, the teacher also said the black neighborhoods were so safe back then that then President Jimmy Carter had his daughter Amy Carter attend an all black school, and that there was not one incident against her, and because she was the Presidents daughter any attack on her would have been all over the news, the teacher who was white said at that time if she had children she would have sent them to a black school no problem, because blacks were better behaved than whites and even better behaved than Japanese Americans, she said and it was in the late 1980's that she would no longer feel safe sending her kids to an all black school, so what was the actual year and what were the causes when and why black crime rates first surpassed white crime rates and why did it happen?

Anonymous said...

Why the hostility to Dr. Ben Carson? He's probably the only man that can turn this country around. After all, only Nixon could go to China.

The Holy Ghostbuster said...

If you really want to end black crime, forcibly administer Depo-provera to all black "men". It would chemically castrate them. Given the obvious relationship between testosterone levels and violence, that would be the quickest way to get results.

Unfortunately, white people would never stand for this. Even to suggest such a thing would be considered far beyond the pale. Most would call it un-Christian, and swear it's a Nazi-like violation of the human rights of these creatures. No, they'd far prefer things to continue as they are. If tens of thousands of their white women and girls get sexually assaulted each year by these apes, that's a small price to pay to make rabbi Jesus happy, isn't it?

Anonymous said...

"AS LONG AS WE HAVE PEOPLE LIKE THIS DOING THIS TO OUR OWN ,we are thru! Look at the utter weakness and the wolves will be feasting for sure!"

I'm pretty sure that Bruce Levenson is using his "racist" e-mail as a way of forcing a team sale that might not be possible otherwise. He tried to sell the Hawks in 2011 and the deal fell apart last minute. After the Sterling fiasco, Levenson can put this e-mail out there and the league has no choice but to let him sell, in order to preserve their pro-Black public relations image.

Also, making his e-mail public made Black behavior a topic of national conversation. People are asking, WHY is it that Whites stay away from Hawks games that are majority Black? Could it possible because of Black social behavior? Nah, must be irrational, hateful raycissum.

The Black undertow costs American businesses enormous amounts of money each year. This *should* be a topic of public debate. Shareholders should pressure McDonalds and other businesses like that and hold the directors and officers legally responsible for doing nothing to abate the Black violence that runs rampant in their stores.

The Holy Ghostbuster said...

Anonymous said ... ... the teacher said at that time blacks committed less crimes than whites ...

Blacks have always been only a relatively small part of the population. It's possible, even likely, that in many areas that total black crime is a smaller numerical figure than the white total. But the black crime rate, per capita, has always been higher than the white rate. One must also consider the kind of crime. Blacks specialize in crimes of violence, while whites are more inclined to non-violent crime. You also have to factor in that not all crime is reported, especially so in the ghetto. No crimes being reported in a ghetto doesn't necessarily mean there weren't any. It probably just means that people there don't trust the police to do anything about it.

That there ever was a time with a peaceful, law-abiding black minority is a myth propagated by the Christian fundamentalist Alex Jones, among others.

Anonymous said...

I like this but I would take it one step further. I would offer a small cash bonus to the "sisters" that sign up and another to when you need to do it again. I bet $500 would be sufficient and in the long run that's a much smaller amount that the taxpayers would have to pony up. Best of all it would cut down on crime big time after a generation.

bernicegreenbaum said...

Answers to Anonymous, IMO:
Black crime surged around 1967, after the Detroit riots. In less than 10 years, black crime was way over white crime, both violent and non=violent. Segregation existed legally in most places in the South until about 1962 or 1963. In the North, blacks and whites, although not legally segregated at the time (early '60s) still tended to go to different spots (self-segregate). It all hit the fan in '64 with LBJ's "Great Society". Whites felt superior to blacks, although nobody ever said it aloud, and diligently avoided being around blacks due to their generally uncouth and stupid behavior.

Your teacher lied. Black neighborhoods were not safe in the '60s. They were SAFER, not safe. You could count on the semi-regular stabbings, robberies, holdups, rapes and murders, but no where NEAR what we see today. A lot of whites back in the '50s and '60s felt that black people acted even crazier when they smoked grass.

Amy Carter went to public school because her dad and mom were trying to create this image of "the common people". Sending her to a public, black school was the Carters sending a message to the negroes: See, we're just like you!
Little Amy was surrounded by the Secret Service, so there was no way Little Lajayveeus was going to rape her during recess or RahWanda would knife her for her lunch money in the little girl's room. Blacks were terribly behaved back then and violently racist toward white kids in the '70s, constantly starting up fights and disruptions. Poor little Amy ended up majoring in something like "Art History", probably because of such a poor educational experience. It was wrong of her parents to sacrifice her up to the gods of diversity.

Don M said...

"Between 1900 and 1930, blacks were three times as likely as whites to be killed. Their killers tended to be black—black were 80 percent of Mississippi's murderers and 60 percent of its victims."

Ha ha, its even reflected in their contemporary music (as in rap music today). Check out the lyrics to this 1928 hit from the all negro Memphis Jug Band:

"I would not (have relations with) a black woman, tell you reason why (Why?!)
Black woman evil do things on the sly (No!)
You expect yo' dinner to be good and hot (yes!)
You never get a neck bone in the pot!

(Chorus)

I went to my door, my door was locked,
I went to my window, my window was propped,
I looked right in and shook my head,
A big black nigger in my folding bed!
I shot through the window, Broke the glass,
Never seen a lil' nigger run so fast!

(Chorus)

A friend come through passin' just to rest his hat,
Next thing he axin' 'where yo husband at?'
She say 'I dunno he on da way to da pen'
Well c'mon mama lets get in da road again!"


But its all our fault, of course!

make it rain TRUTH said...

If the states still had rights, and even further on down to the little counties, townships, cities, boroughs? Then they could self-determine what constituted acceptable punishments or what was excessive.

Then if a certain demographic of people, say criminals, didn't like the way things were handled in one locality? Why, they could move on out to another locality that suited their tastes. This likely wouldn't be much of a problem for white peoples. They aren't the ones comprising the majority of criminals.

If we go back, way back. Back into time... There was a nation built on a republican principle of many different states that joined together in a union. United as they were, but still completely in charge of matters in their own small goldfish bowl in the world and having a voice in their dealings with their creation of this Federal Entity.

They wrote a Constitution to demarcate and specifically enumerate the responsibilities, power, and design of this Federal Entity. Each of these separate states sacrificed a bit of their power in order to create this entity, though they never ceased to operate with their own freedom regarding matters intrastate.

What happened to these creators? Their monster turned on them and ate them. The End.

So instead of having 50 little different petri dishes of experimental governance to compete with one another, we get Leviathan. Thank you Incorporation Doctrine.

Many of you probably didn't understand this story at all. Particularly the ones drinking the Tea Party or Conservative Inc. Kool Aid. Nor did you understand how it relates to race problems (read: blacks causing problems) with which we are currently dealing.

Anonymous said...

Jeff in Palm Springs said...

"Abso correcto ! For those who do want "white only", the only way to get there is "no black" as the necessary 1st step.

Divide & Conquer. Taking on everybody at once is just plain stupid & will lead to defeat...

Of course, those advocating "white only" right now are probably paid jewish trolls trying their best to retard our advance or completely divide & derail us.

BRA is the only enemy at this time & this place. Deal with & defeat BRA
1st & foremost."

I advocate white only & I am not jewish or a troll. I shop at a white owned grocery store, a white owned mom & pop hardware store, my Doctors and Dentist are white. I have only white friends and relatives.. etc. Guess what? No BRA in my life.

It's quite a beautiful thing actually. Right out of a Norman Rockwell painting.

Palm Springs is so far removed from reality you couldn't possibly know how far off the mark you are.

Anonymous said...

No need. Nooooo need. Just build towns outside the big cities that give out generous welfare benefits, with free weekend rap concerts--a magnet if you will--then cut off all welfare in the big cities. They will all flock to the new town, and self-destruct.

Anonymous said...

I like this, a vast majority of the so called racist stereotypes are based in fact. That's why they hate them so much. I never have figured out what's so racist about uncle Remus, countless people have existed just like him in the past and were fixtures in the community. That might be shocking to some but it's true. It's a shame he's lumped in with all the bad ones.

Anonymous said...

I think this guy saw an opportunity to try and get out of owning a team. The hawks have never been able to get over the playoff hump and be successful, so he decided to throw the hot button media term of "racist" around to get Oprah and her ilk to bid on his team. Good idea on his part, as people of all colors have a hard time seeing through to his true motivations.

Bogolyubski said...

Anonymous:
Why the hostility to Dr. Ben Carson? He's probably the only man that can turn this country around. After all, only Nixon could go to China.

Let's see... because he's a total fraud. Another phony negro who's been elevated to God-hood by the "conservative" idiocracy who supports the standard Repuke platform of open borders, gun control, wars to make the Ummah safe for feminism, sodomy and "free-enterprise" via counterfeiting, along with generally erasing YT from the planet? That's just for openers. Another splendid example of publick edumacation's results I guess.

Philaelphia Mike said...

Philadelphia Mike here.

I was getting kind of discouraged with some of the commenters here a few months ago.

If any of you recall, I'm of French, Swiss, Italian and Sicilian heritage. I take pride in the White European gene pool and all of the accomplishments that we have achieved throughout the millennia. We have every right to be proud of our White European ethnic heritage...and every right to say so.

But I always took the position that in this nation in particular, all the non-black groups are in the struggle together to fight black violence, black blight, black criminality, black urban/suburban decay, and defiant black ignorance...better described as the absolute refusal to conform to rules of civility.

We Europeans, the Orientals, the Asian Indians, and the Hispanics...each and everyone one of us...all have a stake in reversing the present trend of the demise of our nation.

The Orientals have built great civilizations. The Asian Indians as well. The Europeans have created the greatest of all, so far. And the Hispanics...the Latin American nations have a rich cultural heritage and are just now beginning to prosper.

My point is...there was so much bashing of the non-European Whites here. And I kept thinking, "Don't these people get it? Don't they realize that united we stand...divided we fall?"

And I posted that very thought time after time. And many times I was shot down....time after time.

And it wasn't until tonight that a blogger here enlightened me...enlightened all of us...that there are trolls posting on this site,trying to divide us non-blacks...trying to alienate the Orientals, the Mestizos, and the Asian Indians from the joint pursuit of preserving civilization.

So trolls, whenever you post your words of unwarranted hatred and try to divide us, I will be here to remind everyone that only united do we stand....I will remind everyone to ignore the divisive posts from those who would see our nation devolve into complete black chaos.

Folks, our vote might mean nothing. But our public outcry means plenty. Be vocal. Be bold. Hold firm onto your core beliefs. Open up the eyes and the ears of everyone you encounter.

We CAN prevail in undoing the undoing. We are the torchbearers of civilization.

Philadelphia Mike

Anonymous said...

Trial junkie here. The black crime rate was high circa 1958. There was even a Time magazine story on the subject.

Black crime spiked around 1962-63 but wasn't noticed much until the riots from 1965-68.

Anonymous said...

Whipping human beings is CRUEL AND UNUSUAL!!! How dare you even suggest such a genocidal abomination against a people? Haven't you seen 12 Years A Slave yet? Capital punishment is WRONG!!

Aaagh! Fucking rednecks!! I can't take it anymore!!!!!!!

-A Compassionate Oregonian

NORDIC CAUCASOID said...

GREATWHITES,

We must set ourselves free from this race of black people.

And it's truly as simple as that!
We are being chained down. We must end the diversity and tolerance or it will try to END US! We are from earth and they are from mars. And our ozone layers just don't mix and they never will. No matter what insane liberal White people will try to convince us. That's why they go for our KIDS!!!

GODSPEED/SEGREGATION NATION!!!

Anonymous said...

http://www.istreetresearch.com/outbreak-of-e68-is-feared-in-ohio-illinois-and-nearby-states/257959/

8MM

Anonymous said...

The two Bosleys show the generational shift in the black mindset. Bosley Senior still believed that blacks should act like men and women, not a bunch of apes in the jungle. Bosley Junior indulged the civilization rot that the modern day blacks bring. I've often wondered how much of the black problem is a nature vs. nurture issue. Clearly Senior is a man and Junior is a nigger.

Anonymous said...

"My Doctors and Dentist are white. "

Has anyone ever seen a black dental hygienist?
What would you do if you showed up at your white dentist's and he paraded in a black dental hygienist?

Oh gawd, i would have to look so publicly racist!

Does anyone even know a white dentist who employs a black hygienist?
Weisse frau

Anonymous said...

Philly Mike is right. All this "whites only" garbage is meant to destroy any site that works against BRA. Every time anyone sides with Asians and Hispanics against Blacks, the daggers come out. Those who aren't White separatists or White Homeland nationalists are viciously attacked.

There are activist groups who have teams of blog posters who attack anyone who isn't on the political left. They post on our forums the most extreme crap to make us look evil. You cannot stop it, just be aware of it.

Anonymous said...

I called the Singaporean embassy to cheer them on. They are righteous people. No grafitti there. It's refreshing to know there are people who don't take crap. There's a lot to be said for swift, sure, minor punishment over all the agonizing over slow, uncertain, major "punishment." It do seem like more of a badge of honor an' trade school to the bruthers.

Norplant for EBT! And no voting rights for EBT! (N/A to unemployed.)

Civilization can fight back if the will is there and we don't tolerate lawfare. Stripper legislation (to protect restrictive covenants) and aggressive impeachment and recall of judges will allow for a salutary resegregation of America.

As an insightful commenter (here?) said we just accept as normal that our great cities, once so livable, can become primitive wastelands if blacks decide to move there.

That's absurd. But then, this is an absurd nation, just like all European nation -- importing Muslims, open borders, subsidizing pathology, and pandering to primitives who can't understand civilized norms.

No segregation, no peace!

Ace

10mm AUTO said...

Philadelphia Mike.

Tis is why we want a homeland. While you are just so happy with the mix, others are not. All the different problems that have beset Western man begin and end with race and you are completely happy with it. Yea, a few Indian's (Curry not casino) here, a smattering of jews there, and pretty soon you end up right back where you started from. I am sure back in the 1500's there was someone who objected to bringing workers (they were not slaves yet till 1655) from Africa due to ignorance, smell, violence, etc. and there was a Philadelphia Mike right there saying "Hey, we have such a great civilization, we are all in this together! We can afford to be open and let a few in, I mean, what's a few African Negros? They will work the fields and learn to be great citizens."

This is a blog where Whites can go to discuss the non-functional aspects of the negro. I am sure there are is the Chinese equivalent, the Indian equivalent, etc.

Mike, I think you remember that the Indians threw out Whites pretty thoroughly back in the early part of last century? Then they threw out the muslims to create Pakistan. Do you ever go on Indian blogs and talk about White issues within India?

Didn't think so.

If Putnam's research shows anything, its that people are happiest and strive to build social cohesion and trust amongst their own kind.

Why does it have to be Asian Countries for Asians, Black Countries for Blacks and White Countries for everyone else. If anything, White countries should be the HARDEST to get into, because they require the most adaption and control of self. We should be as hard to get into as Japan; instead squats pour over the border, negros form countries within our White country, the muslims network for an inevitable caliphate here in the USA, Indians fly in on H1B visa's and take jobs away from our best and brightest but the ONE blog that is set up for Whites to express their displeasure suddenly gets crammed with "can't we all just get along?"

Anonymous said...

Why not just put a tire around them and set them on fire like they do in Africa? Sadly the threat of swift and violent reprisal for bad behavior is the only language these savages comprehend...... and even that doesn't really keep them in line if they think they can get away with something.

You'll never in a million years see this discussion come up in an all white city/town/county. So to maintain any semblance of civilization we must now compromise our civilized culture?

With blacks we will have barbarism one way or another. Either let them go feral and the "might makes right" law of the jungle is their natural condition, or resort to barbarism to try to keep the primitives from endangering humans. Both ways we lose more of our western civilization and white culture.

Anonymous said...

Come on CO, this was a gold plated, softball, of a topic about "whippin" and you swung like a girl. Elevate your game.

Anonymous said...

Hey "A Compassionate Oregonian" you used to be entertaining. Now you are just dumb. As dumb as the other posters here who are ready to do their Bruce Lee movie moves on a gang of negroids. At least that GIRL fought back. Most here can't and won't.

Anonymous said...

"liberal Blacks who are honest"

You've gotta find an honest black, first...

10mm AUTO said...


Modernity is an illusion. It is the hope that through technology we can wish away all those nasty things like battle axes, swords, guns, nukes and of course, Walls and borders and be one great mishmash collective whole. It is the hope that through propaganda ("can't we all just get along?") and meaningless candlelight vigils and marches and singing "Kumbiya" all differences between races and Cultures will go away.

Forget forming a White State in the Northwest, you are a dreamer, a crackpot, a loser for even suggesting it. Amurrica will crush you, roll over you and worst of all, it will be 'racist!"

Today, a few hundred dedicated men have created an Islamic State in parts of what was once Iraq and Syria. With simple strength of will 180 well armed men captured Baghdad after Amurrrica' spent billions propping it up, forming "green Zones", feeding it weapons, destroying its strong neighbors (looking at you Libya!), crippling over 4000 of it young men and fired off very expensive fireworks with red, white, and blue confetti, while the world watched the most expensive, monitored election in human History.

It only took 180 well armed men to bring the entire Wizard of Oz contraption down.

BRA will come down in a similar fashion. It is as hollow a shell as the belief that Iraqi can be "stabilized" for Truth, Gay marriage, race mixing and Internet porn; at the point of a gun.

And in similar blood and pain,the homeland, a Real Nation*, will be born.

The word Nation comes from the Latin NATRU "to be born".

Ex Gladio Libertas

Anonymous said...

But some of us do (not drinking the Kool-Aid myself). I just want to know where to go to be free to associate with others as I choose (I would only exclude "blacks").

Anonymous said...

Agreed wholeheartedly.

Anonymous said...

"This is a blog where Whites can go to..."

Thanks for telling us who this blog is for,who can comment and what we're supposed to believe.

I wasn't aware that this was a NW Front sponsored blog since I didn't smell Harold Covingtons fat ass though my screen.

Anonymous said...

Someone mentioned Ben Carson.

What exactly do you expect him to do? Be a role model for Blacks? Like a Black president?

Ben Carson is evidence that Republicans want to believe it is all culture. This is not only naive but dangerous,

10mm AUTO said...

Jassi, surely you can do better than that! I mean, at least address my points.

Plus, personal insults against another is so...well, "Liberal" if you know what I mean. You didn't even attack me. You had the chance to call me a Naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews and you missed it!

Further, though I did mention who this blog is for (I think accurately) I did NOT say "Who could comment" nor "What anyone is supposed to believe." I do express my personal beliefs, as does everyone here and is free to chop my opinions down if they are illogical or lack historical accuracy.

If this is supposed to be "disheartening" it is...well...no offense, weak.

I just want to add that Paul has NEVER endorsed the Northwest Front nor run ads for the novels nor even allowed me to post any of Covington's videos. He is entirely silent on the matter of HOW to fix the problem of the filthy negro (aside for his support for Real Estate Deed Restrictions and Depro-Provera) and for a long while allowed several negros to post "rebuttals" until they became so silly that he finally ended the practice.

Anonymous said...

There are sound tactical reasons for forming alliances with certain non-white groups at this stage of the struggle. Today, race realists are operating from a position of weakness. They need allies, and they need to divide the opposition. So there is a reason for race realists to form a broader front.

Too often, race realists think that because they dominate a blog, they have power in the real world. But as has been pointed out, tapping away on a keyboard is not the same thing as putting millions of people into the streets or controlling the courts & media. Granted, the Internet is useful for agitprop purposes, and websites like SBPDL are godsends.

The question I'd raise is strategic: what is the end state of a race realist movement? When a white nationalist state is established, what becomes of tactical alliances with non-whites? And what happens with non-white populaces? Massive deportations might appear "cruel and unusual" but you have to figure that white people today are being pushed out of cities, colonies and countries they have established, from Rhodesia to Detroit. Is the reverse any less unjust?

All these are real questions, and need to be hashed out to provide the theoretical underpinnings of the larger struggle.

Anonymous said...

Do you ever go on Indian blogs and talk about White issues within India?

Are there Indian, East Asian, etc., blogs which are anti-black?

Do we see non-whites identifying blacks as the source of violence against their "communities?"

Perhaps the Indian poster could identify such blogs and people.

I think you remember that the Indians threw out Whites pretty thoroughly back in the early part of last century? Then they threw out the muslims to create Pakistan.

This is a good question for Asian Indians: if diversity is such a good thing, then why did they decide that Muslims would not fit into an independent India?

Anonymous said...

If anything, White countries should be the HARDEST to get into, because they require the most adaption and control of self.

Agreed.

Anonymous said...

Bravo 10mm, bravo...

It matters not that you're an atheist, hell- I'm married to one. But she's a race realist and that'll do.

See you on the field of battle by my side friend.

Fed Up FF

Anonymous said...

for uk readers you should expand avoid the groid to include wondeful mass child raping Pakistanis, simply shun them like the plague they are

Anonymous said...

for english readers embrace your heritage, boycott all Pakistani owned corner shops and restaurants, ASk out loud who is the owner, oh sorry i do not supporet child rapists and those who cover for them

Anonymous said...

Why the hostility to Dr. Ben Carson? He's probably the only man that can turn this country around.

Because Ben Carson is a fantasy just like Obama.

Yes they are real people but the underlying fantasy is that with the right role model or influence or proper breakfast black males will pull up their pants and start reading Tolstoy.

It's a refusal to deal with cognitive racial differences that were observed over 100 years ago and those observations today have not been refuted.

Republicans want to believe that everyone is equal (with the exception of dullards and geniuses) and that Blacks only need the right environment of Church and minimal government. It's completely delusional especially when there are already countries today in Africa with that environment and they are not even close to maintaining the living standards of "big government" Cuba.

It's also a lousy strategy to think Blacks will support a Black Republican that will cut their benefits and lecture them. This strategy of "hey look we got a Black guy too" is doomed to fail. And quite frankly it is disturbing as to how excited they get over him even though he doesn't have many ideas. Didn't they make fun of liberals for the same thing?

Pat Boyle said...

They had '12 years a slave' on HBO last night. So if we are discussing whippings I will do so in in the context of the movie.

The movie is based on a best selling book of the time about a free black man who was allegedly kidnapped, enslaved, and whipped. The book was almost certainly ghost written by the white lawyer. The whole incident may have been a hoax. Apparently selling blacks from the north in the south was a popular con game at the time. The James Garner western comedy 'Skin Game' was based on this practice.

Some believe that the black protagonist, Solomon Northrup was a willing participant in this con game and got caught. Who knows as this distance in time?

Let's assume the story was literally true and that Northup was indeed kidnapped and enslaved. The major point that seems to be overlooked, is that if this were a true case of kidnapping and enslavement it was the only one. It seems to have been unique or nearly so.

So this wasn't a widespread social problem but rather an incident that was unfortunate for an individual.

But kidnapping and enslavement were quite common at the time except that all the victims were white. These white enslavements were major issues at the time. The US went to war twice to stop them.

The Muslim pirate states in North Africa kidnapped more than two million white Europeans and Americans in the late eighteenth and early nineteenth centuries. They were enslaved under far worst conditions than those experience by blacks in the deep south. We formed our first navy to fight them. e.g. 'On the shores of Tripoli'.

Our next war - the War of 1812 - was fought largely for the practice of 'impressment'.

Impressment was a policy of the British where they kidnapped free whites off the streets of England or the decks of American merchant ships and forced them to serve in their navy.

The British, the Prussians, and the Spanish all whipped their troops and sailors. The Spanish figured a hundred lashes were a death sentence. The British in the Peninsula War and in their Royal Navy routinely administered a thousand lashes. This took several days. The victim would be revived day after day until they were dead. This was more than just a death sentence it was lingering torture until death.

American merchant ships were manned with volunteers who were eager to serve. The wages were good and the conditions were as good as the technology could afford.

British ships however were manned with slaves who ate bad food, lived in miserable conditions, were beaten every day and occasionally beaten to death.

Ante-bellum blacks slave in the southern cotton plantations had good food, they usually lived with their wives and children often in separate houses, they had medical care, and were seldom whipped. The life expectancy of black slave was very little shorter than their masters. But a free white American merchantman who was taken on a British warship seldom lived very long.

Black slaves were the farm equipment of the day. It made no economic sense to beat your property to death.

The British Navy didn't abandon flogging until about 1880 - long after black slaves had been freed in both England and America. There is a remnant of flogging in the first Gilbert and Sullivan hit 'The Pirates of Penzance' where Captain Corcoran and Dick Deadeye sing a duet about 'The Merry Cat-O-Nine Tails'. Men were beaten to death with the 'Cat'. Some joke.

Most of what Americans think they know about slavery and whippings is just wrong.

Pat Boyle

Anonymous said...

At some point both conservatives and libertarians married themselves to the idea that Blacks have equal potential but are held back by "big government" and Democrat programs.

This idea has obvious appeal to Republicans since it means that cutting down the government will not only reduce their taxes but also liberate Blacks and turn them into good citizens. It would also allow Republicans to prove that they weren't nasty racists like Democrats claimed and that in fact Democrats are holding back Blacks.

But this idea is wishful thinking.

Unfortunately we have already seen what happens when you give Blacks minimal government. You get Haiti or Liberia and not a nation of Ben Carsons.

Under segregation they were still free to organize, pursue self-education and improvement and yet even the NAACP was not created by Blacks. There is a clear lack of interest in intellectual activities and civil organizing by Blacks that is independent of culture.

Unknown said...

White people are tired of being labeled 'racist.' They are weary of hateful black-on-White violence going unchecked. White people are tired of watching entire cities, such as Detroit, collapse when the White infrastructure is removed only to have blight blamed on external causes.

They are weary of Somali immigrants gravitating towards violent crime. They are fed up with historical revisionism that ignores overt black complicity to slavery. They are tired of being lied to and tired of pretending the lies are true.

Bogolyubski said...

Philly Mike:
My point is...there was so much bashing of the non-European Whites here. And I kept thinking, "Don't these people get it? Don't they realize that united we stand...divided we fall?"

And I posted that very thought time after time. And many times I was shot down....time after time.

And it wasn't until tonight that a blogger here enlightened me...enlightened all of us...that there are trolls posting on this site,trying to divide us non-blacks...trying to alienate the Orientals, the Mestizos, and the Asian Indians from the joint pursuit of preserving civilization.


I think you might be confusing "bashing" with a criticism of the notion that whites only have validity insofar as they have the approval of non-whites. There is a very big difference between the two. There might be a few Asians and other non-whites who don't view the campaign to erase whites as a good thing. Fine and good. I rather doubt that Shelfali and the Asian fellow who posted the other day about how a family member was the victim of negroes want to see us genocided. That said, there are no magic Indians, Mexicans, Jews, or Asians who can save YT. It's not their job to. It's ours, like it or not.

The trolls here are those who want us to repeat the same failed strategies of the past seven decades or so (vote Repuke!) and not look too closely into certain aspects of the BRA looting and genocide program - like the fact that it was not founded by negroes, it was not planned or built by them, it's not maintained or operated by them, nor are negroes its primary beneficiaries. Start asking questions like Cui bono? and the trolls try to shut down the conversation with shouts of "conspiracy theories!". (Not just here, either.)

Are there maybe some folks who get a little hot-tempered and go over-the-top into actually bashing Asians (not a huge group in the Banana Empire), Mexicans (invaders and colonizers - most of whom openly declare their intention to take over, with some even openly declaring genocide on whites), etc. - Probably so. Are some of these paid trolls here to derail the whole thing? Not impossible, I suppose. Anything to draw YT's attention away from that nice warm oven he's being railroaded into.

Sheila said...

Mike - You come across as a sincere, genuinely nice guy, but (and with all due respect) I think you are wrong. I could go on and on (with full documentation and backup statistics) regarding Indian and Asian anti-White practices and tendencies, but I don't do that any more. Simply put, I agree with 10mmAuto.

Weisse frau - believe it or not, our former dentist (White with gorgeous blonde wife and daughters) started hiring black hygienists. At first, I made a simple arrangement with the front desk that my family preferred a particular hygienist (I picked a White one) by name for any cleaning appointments. This worked for a while. Then my husband went in for a whitening appointment and ended up with a black - who ended up burning his mouth.

The next time I called to schedule an appointment with "our" hygienist, I was told she had left the practice. I couldn't recall the specific name of another White on the phone, so just said I preferred a White hygienist. Between the time of that phone call and the letter I got from the White dentist outraged that I was such a racist, we chose to find another dentist - a White one who employes only Whites.

It happens. You have to remain vigilant and uncompromising. We now drive about 20 miles north on the highway to get to our White dentist, instead of 2 minutes down the road to the former White one. It's a "sacrifice" we willingly make.

Bogolyubski said...

Trial Junkie:
Trial junkie here. The black crime rate was high circa 1958. There was even a Time magazine story on the subject.

Black crime spiked around 1962-63 but wasn't noticed much until the riots from 1965-68.


The negro crime rate has always been higher than the white. I think PK had an article here over a year ago which mentioned the issue in Philadelphia of the 1810's. The witchdoctors (perfect term) were whining even back then. Oddly, the only place where it seems to have been only somewhat higher than the white rate was in the South during slavery (See Radish for some details about that). Data is spotty from that era however. There were also little things like the Nat Turner revolt, where the negro displayed his essential nature. Whites were far too lenient even then. Nothing like the insanity now of course.

Bogolyubski said...

Anonymous:
This is a good question for Asian Indians: if diversity is such a good thing, then why did they decide that Muslims would not fit into an independent India?

They didn't throw them all out by any means. There are around 100 million Musloids in India at present, and they are a real problem from what I understand. There was a "Indian in the West" poster at Auster's site who regularly commented on things in India - including rioting by blacks in Goa on the west coast.

Anonymous said...

"This is a good question for Asian Indians: if diversity is such a good thing, then why did they decide that Muslims would not fit into an independent India?"

Whoever is talking this nonsense knows absolutely nothing about the South Asian subcontinent or partition, and there are almost no parallels between contemporary Europe and post WW2 India.

India has 250 million Muslims, the second highest number in the world in a single nation. East and West Pakistan ( you knew there were two didn't you?) were to allow Muslims freedom, not because they disliked diversity.

Partition was mainly a British design and has led to far more death and destruction than integration. Today, India has hundreds of coexisting ethnic groups, religions and races. Parsis from Iran, Jews from Judah, Chinese looking people in Andhra Pradesh, Jatt Sikhs likely related to proto-Europeans and Arab mixes or Scythians from what is now Ukraine and other currently Slavic nations, and the list goes on and on. Considering the history of conflict in that region, there is surprising little violence and people tend to get along. Obviously it's not perfect.

The most prevalent kinds of violence in Indian history have been fratricidal amongst different factions of Hindus. Sort of like how Europeans usually fight Europeans. They highlight the Muslim invasion as an anomaly but it really wasn't. They were invading each others' city states and little empires from time immemorial.

Yes, people with major differences sometimes fight. But, applying memes from facebook to complex notions of statehood makes no sense. White nationalists tend to drive far more people away than they can attract because these memes are too fantastical and simple.

Essentially applying leftist tactics to an exclusivity that is literally the most unpopular kind of thought in the world won't work.

People exclaim that "Nothing good has ever come from diversity ever!" Ok, well, the Silk road is pretty amazing. Rome was quite amazing. Yes, it fell. And tell me, what nation hasn't?

SwampThizzle said...

"You cannot stop it, just be aware of it." Well, actually, Paul can refuse to let their comments see the light of day or yank them. These professional "think tank" trolls are pretty easy to spot on their comments alone and another dead giveaway is that oftentimes the commenters all share the same IP address.

CENTURION said...

I'll bet this Uppity Negro "Dr". Ben Carson got his degree through affirmative action.

Basically, any negro who gets into a college got in through Affirmative Action....the color of his/her skin.

Any negro who graduates also did so with AA. He/she got special tests, special tutors and special grades.

All of them.

For this reason I never go to a negro doc, lawyer, mechanic, etc.

They have the job they have NOT due to the content of their minds but rather due to the content of their skins.

Anonymous said...

African cultures are all built around cattle theivery & cheating.

Crime comes very natural to the sub-saharan African.

They are truly a criminal species & a super-parasite on their homo-sapien hosts

/H hypie out H\

Bogolyubski said...

10 MM Auto:
It is the hope that through propaganda ("can't we all just get along?") and meaningless candlelight vigils and marches and singing "Kumbiya" all differences between races and Cultures will go away.

The utopian crack-pipe in a nutshell. Thanks so much for reminding me of the Litany of St. Rodney: C-c-c-c-an't we jus' all git along?. Perhaps it should be used as the Bene-muh-dik-t'us for the Requiem mass of the Holy Martyr St. Swisher the Sweet, Gentle Giant of Ferguson. I'm sure CO will gladly propose it at the next "Christian" coven meeting.

Optometrist said...

As for "Dr" Uncle Ben Carson:

In Optometry school, 4 years, I never saw a Black student. When I started first year, there we no Blacks in the 3 classes ahead of me and when I reached the fourth year, there were no Blacks in the 3 years behind. So, for those 7 years of exposure, there was not a single Black student in the Optometry school I attended, which at the time was the #1 such school in the nation in which I graduated #2 from the top in my class.

I've been practicing for decades and I have never seen a Black Optometrist. Not one. Sure, I see them in the trade journals, but they could be "play acting" as they do on television and in the movies. At no convention, lecture, continuing education seminar have I ever seen a Black one. In fact, at each of these events it is 99% White. Those not White are your light skinned Hispanics.

I am required to attend many lectures a year, so I am out and about. Even today, there are none. I can understand it 25 years ago, but you would think with all this AA, out-reach, set-asides, free books, scholarships, etc that ONE would pop up his or her nappy little head. Not one. For this reason I would say the TV "docs" and the political "docs" we see high up in politics are frauds or are planted there. I wonder if perhaps they went to school, were passed and were "awarded" their doctor degrees with the intention of only play-acting in prescribed roles.

Perhaps these Black doctors we see were groomed from high school, like Obama. They were sleepers from an early age, groomed, ran through schools and colleges with sealed records, given degrees and then put out in front of the stupid White cattle to be the Black leaders. Meanwhile their handlers remain behind the temple curtain and manipulate us.

Anonymous said...

Jassi said...

"Today, India has hundreds of coexisting ethnic groups, religions and races. Parsis from Iran, Jews from Judah, Chinese looking people in Andhra Pradesh, Jatt Sikhs likely related to proto-Europeans and Arab mixes or Scythians from what is now Ukraine and other currently Slavic nations, and the list goes on and on."

Sure but which one of those "coexisting" ethic groups are responsible for those brutal rapes and assaults on buses in India?
Also, isn't there some sort of caste system in India?

I'm sure you are aware of the current massive tragedy in England. At least I would hope so for the sake of DIEversity. All of those people involved need quick trials and quick executions. This would include all members of the government that allowed it to happen and continue. That's my opinion.
Scot Irish
And my list can go on and on as well.
Scot Irish

Anonymous said...

"Sure but which one of those "coexisting" ethic groups are responsible for those brutal rapes and assaults on buses in India?"

In India recently, in a Hindu dominated region, there have been numerous violent gang rapes after which the rapists murdered the women and hung them from trees. Hindus raped by Hindus. A State Minister excused it by saying "boys will be boys."

I think they have the same melanin aggression as negroes, personally and I don't think religions play as large a part in their dysfunction.

My only point is that people on both sides of these debates think in absolutes, and are absolutely presenting ideological slogans which are both unrealistic and ineffective. Since the earliest European writings that I've read, there has been some amount of multiculturalism. It seems sort of Israeli to make the false equation between some foreigners and a few European/Asian marriages with being conquered.

As I'll repeat for the umpteenth time, many of the people who are designated as the purest of White "Aryans" have Asian genes and sometimes discernible traits. This simple fact alone should really tell you something.

I personally believe that 99% h1b Visas should be revoked and that parents and family should not be able to migrate to the country which their child married into. I also think we should do much worse than deport all of the illegals in the US as well as ban any public display of Islam.

But these are separate topics which can't be summed up with "muh purity."

Optometrist said...

........Continuation of the sad lack of Doctors of Color, (since we all know healthcare cannot be 1st World without 3rd World Doctors of Color):

I believe I know why there is such a paucity of Doctors of Color:

Due to the collapse of what was left of any Black community decency in the past, there really are no Blacks today who can become Doctors of Lawyers.

60 years ago, due to some intact Black families and a real Black Middle Class, (existing in the segregated areas), there were young Black men who could have gone to professional schools. BUT, today, they don't exist.

Add to this the number who are dead or with such criminal records that even AA can't gloss over them. It is one thing to admit a black person who has a rap sheet of juvenile actions, but a guy with a felony rape, felony car jacking and a beating will be hard to smuggle into Harvard Med School. There is only so much Black pathology an admissions department can bury in the application before somebody looks into the file.

When I think of my profession and see not a single Black Optometrist, I sit back and realize I have never seen a Black Attorney at any time I've been to any court proceeding in my city/county. And, not a single Black Accountant, nor Architect, nor.....in all my years of being in numerous businesses and in numerous business settings.....


1/3 in jail. 1/3 with felony records and the other 1/3 most likely dealing drugs and running numbers leaves very few to apply to M.I.T. Just maybe, if we are lucky, this self destruction will eliminate the Black Race before we become extinct. Definitely a "race" to the bottom.

Anonymous said...

Feel sorry for me up here in New York, brothers.The 'Hands up don't shoot crowd' just joined up with the 'Island of the White Priviledge' group, mix in a little ISIS threat for this week, on the anniversary of 911, and you get- I DON'T CARE ANYMORE. At this point they'd be doing us a favor..and just might wake up more.

Anonymous said...

DWLs absolutely know just how self destructive blacks are. They are not blind to the overwhelming evidence, not by a longshot. THEY KNOW.
They also know its all their own fault, that they are responsible for the destruction of the black family unit, that they are guilty of enabling blacks to hate today's YT for sins in the past, that they are responsible for urban catastrophes like Detroit, East St. Louis, Baltimore, etc etc etc.
They know it all.

And that's why they deny it all, that's why they deflect blame and spin honest observation into charges of racism. that's why they go on the attack when an 'honest' discussion is shut down and turned into a farce.

Because to actually admitthey created this mess would collapse their entire ideology, not just in America but worldwide. It's just self-preservation, in their eyes. They meant well, they tried to do good. What they can't quite understand is that NO ONE !@#$! ASKED THEM TO DO ANYTHING. ITS ALL ABOUT THEIR EGOS. They should all be made to live right alongside their pet projects, share the same living quarters, shop at the same stores, send their kids to the same schools. An in-your-face heaping dose of reality.

Anonymous said...

I read a comment recently on a racially aware blog in which the poster said he avoided "Nagger-bashing sites" because they intentionally or unintentionally diverted whites from the real problem-WHITE GENOCIDE. The recent comments here extolling the virtues of rainbow diversity would tend to confirm his view. Whites concerned with white racial preservation, (no, I did not say purity) don't seem particularly welcome here. As for the notion that a "few European-Asian" marriages don't matter, I would simply counter, do the math. Asians make up about 60% of the world's population. The Chinese alone make up 20%. Whites account for around 10% and falling. How can anybody say that the white race couldn't be absorbed into this mass and vanish in the same way as the Caucasian mummies in China millennia ago. So, whites who are worried about unchecked Asian immigration into their homelands have legitimate reasons for concern. As for the people who keep pushing for these interracial "alliances", try it for a while in, let's say , the barrio. Let us know how that works out.

Philadelphia Mike said...

In rebuttal to 10mm Auto.

Auto, I'm only speaking for the (dis)United States of America. I carefully worded my post : "But I always took the position that in this nation in particular..."

Europe is our ethnic homeland. To me, Europe is the sacred ground that should be off limits to any kind of tampering with our ethnicity...our genetics...our looks...our intelligence.

But the USA? At this point, it's over. It's no longer a White nation.

As such, in THIS nation, only a united force of the different civilized ethnic groups can undo the present downward spiral we are seeing.

I understand your dream of a White homeland. But the politicians and special interest groups for the past 50 years have thwarted that vision.

Europe, if it can alter the present trend of black and Islamic immigration, is probably the only hope for preserving a White homeland.

I am not a DWL. I'm a realist...facing the reality of this nation...trying to preserve the last remnants of a civil society.

I am vocal. I am bold. And most importantly of all, I am unafraid to speak face to face to others.

And therein will lie our strength.

Philadelphia Mike

Philadelphia Mike said...

Sheila,

Thanks for the post. I'm just trying in the only way I know of to carry on the torch of civilization in this nation.

And...I am still optimistic. If I weren't, I would just take my family quietly relocate to another nation.

Philadelphia Mike

Anonymous said...

OT:

Groids attack 3 whites at a Kroger in Memphis.

The Money Quote is brought to you by Memphis Police Department Director Toney Armstrong:

""We are fully aware of the last night's incidents. It is extremely troubling to see how many young people were involved, especially on the heels of last week's youth forum. A lot of our citizens are working to provide safe and productive alternatives for our youth."

I can't imagine how such an attack is possible, what with their "youth forum" last week.

--NB with IPMS

Anonymous said...

OT:

Groids attack 3 whites at a Kroger in Memphis.

The Money Quote is brought to you by Memphis Police Department Director Toney Armstrong:

""We are fully aware of the last night's incidents. It is extremely troubling to see how many young people were involved, especially on the heels of last week's youth forum. A lot of our citizens are working to provide safe and productive alternatives for our youth."

I can't imagine how such an attack is possible, what with their "youth forum" last week.

--NB with IPMS

Anonymous said...

"extolling the virtues of" "keep pushing for"


The straw men cain't stop won't stop. Accepting a current, historical, and ancient reality is hardly "extolling a virtue" or "pushing for" anything.

Normal person- "I don't have a problem with people in my neighborhood and some are racially not exactly like me."

Nationless Nationalist- "So you're saying you want to murder all of us?"

If we're going to abandon our links to Socratic thought and instead just run on slogans and unadulterated fallacy, we might as well be negroes.

Oh, and speaking of negroes! While you pretend to start a new nation dependent on a financial collapse which becomes less likely by the minute(especially when you start to consider shale oil), there are actual people, actually raping and killing, while we do nothing but fantasize about pure lands of pure people (who better not ever take a DNA test.)

Real things are happening. Stop worrying about the micro when the macro is the issue.

D-FENS said...

"Asians make up about 60% of the world's population. The Chinese alone make up 20%. Whites account for around 10% and falling. How can anybody say that the white race couldn't be absorbed into this mass and vanish in the same way as the Caucasian mummies in China millennia ago."

Wouldn't the Asians also be diluting themselves out of existence? Or are these Asians "taking one for the team"? If the Asians really do hate Whites, why are there any intermarriages taking place? To deliberately eliminate Whites?

This is different from Jew-non-Jew marriages since a religious conversion is often made, the Jews have a long established history of advocating and effectively organizing for policies inimical to Whites and there is a vigorous effort on the part of Jews to discourage Jews from marrying non-Jews.

10mm AUTO said...

To Jassi,

"Normal person- "I don't have a problem with people in my neighborhood and some are racially not exactly like me."

What a Liar.

So you have not read the Book "Bowling Alone" where Robert Putnam shows that increasing diversity decreases social cohesion and loneliness and isolation and a withdraw from society. That is normal White people. Again, if you like them so much, stay in where ever you are and do not come to the Northwest. I agree that negros are MORE of a direct inconvenience, but the problem is the engineered dissolving of our race, negros are just the blade in the hands of the killer behind the curtain with the dual passport.


2) I am old enough to have watched the Soviet Union, laden with mineral treasures uncounted, oil, Gold, Natural Gas, Art, and industrious people, good growing land and a Country so large it covered 11 time zones, fall. Broken financially because one man showed their socialist dreams to be a lie. Vast wealth, but unable to get simple bread to the market coupled with slave labor and the starvation of millions. A crisis is coming whether you want it or not:(see: http://www.woodpilereport.com/html/index-386.htm )

Some "Money Quotes" (a little humor there)

"Circulating concurrently with silver certificates, and nearly identical in appearance, were Federal Reserve Notes. When silver certificates were discontinued in 1964 it left only the Federal Reserve Note in circulation, severing the last significant connection of US currency to money. The operative word is "Note." The full term is "Promissory Note" and what it promises is redemption in still other promissory notes. That's it. That's all there is. The main claim to value for these notes is their exclusive acceptability in payment of taxes and, therefore, as legal tender for private transactions. Okay, but what's in it for us? They're scrip. Fiat. Funny-money. Good for "best case," probably, and even that decision is in hands other than ours.

Coupled with the confiscation of 20,000 tons of privately owned gold in 1933—technically a "buy back" with paper currency, enforced with threat of fines and prison—it suggests a calculated theft of the people's money and, thereby, the theft of their financial security and any commerce independent of DC. Nor is it reassuring mere possession of "legal tender"—Federal Reserve Notes—in uncommon amounts is considered evidence of criminal wrongdoing sufficient to warrant its seizure without charging the bearer with any crime."

Annie Oakley said...

For those of you who think those of us who are pro-white are trolls, let me disabuse you of that notion. I'm a pro-white female and on NO ONE's payroll.

Both sides of my family are white. European, English, Scottish whites. They came to America in the 1720's. I've researched it. And I can back it up.

I look at some of my grandparents pictures and it's a white paradise. But if you let a little of Asian stew, Mexican stew and black stew, it's no longer a white stew.

One little turd in a bowl of vanilla ice cream contaminates an entire area.

Philadelphia Mike and Jeff in Palm Springs. Either the two of you are completely naive or very disingenious at best.

Having lived in the non-white cities for 30 years and now in an all white enclave, you want an all white town.

Once Asians and Hispanics gain the upper hand in government and private sector hiring, your days as a white man getting a contract or a job is about over.

For those of you who foolishly believe and are naive enough to believe non-whites are going to stand with you, you might as well join the NAACP.

You see folks, Asians and Hispanics love free shit. And they will not give it up for anyone. I don't care how much like you as a white friend they will still side with the free shit crowd when things get real.

Just because someone is anti-black doesn't mean they're pro-white. And to be honest with y'all I have no idea why you continue to champion and defend other non-whites. Do you REALLY think they give a rat's ass about you?

Non-whites are like men in the dating world. Men will lie and tell you what they want you to hear for you to drop your panties. Once they get the goods, they're off to the next conquest.

Same thing with ALL non-whites. They'll do the step and fetch it to reel you in and get what they need. And once they get the "money shot", they're gone with the wind.

AnalogMan said...

Jassi said...

The straw men cain't stop won't stop...

"So you're saying you want to murder all of us?"


Hmm. Quite.

If we're going to abandon our links to Socratic thought and instead just run on slogans and unadulterated fallacy, we might as well be negroes.

What we have here is a failure to communicate (H/T Cool Hand Luke).

It all depends on what the objective is. You've made it clear that yours is the preservation of civilization, however you define it. Apparently Socratic thought is an essential element of that.

Some of us have other priorities.

Civilization is an artifact. It was bequeathed to us by our ancestors, who built it. But that's all it is - an artifact.

It's our responsibility to preserve and nurture that heritage, and pass it on to our descendants. But far more importantly, to pass on our genetic heritage.

I have no interest in preserving civilization for the benefit of an alien race that will inherit it. If we must choose between the civilization, and the race that created it, that's a no-brainer. We can build again. Extinction is forever.

You have chosen to marry out of your race. Your White heritage ends with you. Your choice. But you can't pretend that it's of no consequence. Your arguments about purity are just sophistry; because, for purposes of racial survival, it's you who "might as well be a negro". You will never have White children.

Anonymous said...

September 9, 2014 at 7:21 AM

Revision!!!

WHY THE HELL HAS PAUL KERSEY NOT WRITTEN ABOUT VASALGEL YET?????

It is the one contraception option the Left does not dare mention or want you to know about. Wonder why, because 90% of taxpayers would demand its PRESCRIBED(not proscribed) use to prevent America from being turned into an Idiocracy.

10mm AUTO said...


AnalogMan said...
September 9, 2014 at 2:19 AM

Standing "O".

Why preserve the trapping of a people long dead when you can preserve the People.

Well Said Sir, Bravo.

Anonymous said...

AnalogMan said ”. . . You have chosen to marry out of your race. Your White heritage ends with you. Your choice. But you can't pretend that it's of no consequence. Your arguments about purity are just sophistry; because, for purposes of racial survival, it's you who "might as well be a negro". You will never have White children.”

AnalogMan won't separate the ideal of maintaining one's heritage with the practical aspects of race. I see nothing wrong with being proud of one's heritage and taking steps to preserve it. However, from a practical standpoint the level of purity is probably no more than a question of accounting. If one is unaware of any polluting DNA in his family tree, he deems himself pure. As pure as AnalogMan feels I'm confident that we could follow the limbs on his family tree and find a point where his purity was forever lost. Most of us possess a quantum of Neanderthal DNA and a majority of non-Neanderthal DNA. So did we lose our Neanderthal purity, or did we lose our non-Neanderthal purity and how can this mix ever lead to the creation of a “pure” race?

I'm the first to admit that according to AnalogMan's criteria I might as well be a negro. Although I look white, act white, married a white looking woman, have white looking children, would probably be considered a good neighbor to have in a white neighborhood, and detest the undertow I might as well be a negro. I can probably prove less than 1/3 of my racial heritage and it is almost a certainty that my racial survival ended many many generations ago. So what?

My guess is that the vast majority of racially pure white folks are actually only white folks who have rehabilitated their purity through several generations of producing children with other white folks. For purposes of dealing with BRA, it might be a good idea to view the world as either black or white with white being defined as persons who don't have black skin and who function as white people. The issue of purity really isn't important when dealing with BRA.

Sheila said...

Anonymous at 10:04 AM 9 Sep:
The question of absolute "racial purity" is one that has been brought up by you and Jassi so far as I can recall, not 10mmAuto. Your point about many American Whites having some percentage of admixture is only somewhat valid. There certainly are mixtures, but I believe the majority of DNA studies have shown the average White American to be approximately 99% White.

HOWEVER . . . I would argue there is a difference and a distinction between looking, acting, marrying, and for all intents and purposes being White versus truly having a 100% White European heritage. Those who argue racial differences are merely "cultural" are fools or liars, because culture proceeds from genetics, not independent of them.

Most mulattoes of any mixture identify with their non-White ancestry. While blacks will often harass mulattoes, they ultimately accept them and even prefer them for "marrying up." None of this ultimately matters, though, because of regression to the mean in intelligence, and because White DNA is recessive. The average black American (I know, an oxymoron) has approximately 17% White DNA. Sure, stand them next to a pure African and you can see the difference, but they're still black.

Jassi apparently married an Indian. I'm sure she can tell all of us quite a bit about caste, and how most Indians can identify ancestry by caste going back generations, and can visually tell one from the other.

The other important point is not visual at all - but DNA is forever. I have occasionally mentioned here that I am a Christian of Jewish ancestry. While my husband is White and my children look, act, identify with, and have been raised as White, how could I, in all honesty and good conscience, object if some Whites said hey, I don't want my kids marrying them and introducing that Jewish DNA into my gene pool? I don't want my kids marrying some mulatto and introducing black or Asian ancestry. You can find someone who is only 3% Jewish or black - but if there is a direct male line of ancestry, that initial male DNA is going to remain identifiable forever.

While I hate to come across as a special little snowflake, I am well aware that I am an anomaly. An outlier. The vast majority of part-Jews, just like all mulattoes and all other races/tribes, identify as non-White. It doesn't have to be logical or factual, but it is reality. Sure, I can cherry pick the example of my husband's buddy - a big guy with blue eyes and visually 100% White, but whose maternal grandmother was Ainu (native Japanese). He married a woman of pure German-American heritage. Their blond, blue-eyed son has 12.5% Ainu DNA. While I doubt White nationalists or 10mm Auto would object to him as "impure" if he wanted to join a White homeland, that DNA is there. How many generations would it take - another 2 or 3 - to where one could argue it was statistically insignificant? I could just as easily come up with counter examples. Cherry-picking and anomalies do not make for good overall policy or beliefs.

It's all a question of degree, appearance, identity . . . things that are flexible. PLUS a question of DNA, which is immutable. I respect the REALITY and permanence of DNA and racial differences. I also totally identify with and support White identity and culture, regardless of whether I, personally (or my offspring) is accepted as White or not. To some people a certain percentage truly matters, and to others not so much. Who are you to say they're wrong, or what percentage is important? As others have noted, you add 1% of fecal matter to ice cream and no one wants to eat it. You can go all IKAGO and cherry-pick some black who totally identifies with Western civilization. How do his offspring then fit into a White homeland? Who wants to be the first to dilute that DNA? It's very much a real question, and an individual one. And NOT one on which to make national policy.

AnalogMan said...

Thanks, 10mm AUTO. The sentiment is reciprocated. You've outdone yourself on this and recent threads.

Anon @ 10:04 - you're making the same mistake as Jassi. The same straw man that he is complaining about.

Nobody has said anything about "purity" apart from you people who are advocating miscegenation. The rest of us all understand that we are a blend. We happen to like our blend.

I personally suspect that a dash of Neanderthal has done us good. Gave us good hair, anyway, and quite probably bigger brains. Maybe it would have been better for the civilization that Jassi admires if the Neanderthals had won. I don't know. What we have is what we have.

The question is, were we better off when our countries (Greece, Rome, Egypt, Europe, America) were White, or now that they are "diverse"? Will we become better, or worse, by mixing in more of the DNA from the third world?

I have my own blind prejudices on that subject. I just happen to like blondes, and I think the world would be a poorer place without them. I'd be happy to listen to any actual argument for the opposite view - but it would have to be good.

Anonymous said...

Why the gratuitous insult for TP or conservatives? Leftists are the ones who are contemptuous of and indifferent to the original constitutional scheme. The TP and conservatives are the ones who revere the Constitution.

Ace

Anonymous said...

Full marks, CO. You managed to work in "genoicidal" and "a people." Good job. Personally, I don't rely too much on movies to teach me about the world. Something to do with the "Hollywood agenda."

Ace

Anonymous said...

AnalogMan & Sheila – Apparently my in-artful discussion wasn't clear. I'm not advocating interracial marriage, nor am I criticizing individuals for taking pride in and attempting to preserve their racial heritage. I'm merely stating the fact that for the purpose of dealing with BRA it is safe to say that if it looks white and functions as a white then it is a white. If it looks black and functions as a black then it is a black. None of the machinery of BRA distinguishes whether a person is white with a dab of asian or black with a dab of asian – it is pretty much black or white.

If you are interested in real change you will need the support of all whites as recognized by BRA. If you are not interested in real change, you can move northwest and create a temporary micro-environment for a class of special whites and the rest of the country will roll along until it ultimately swallows your utopia. Blacks are by far the most conspicuous problem and therefore the primary example of failure and need for change. My opinion is that when the problem with blacks has been solved that many of our other race related problems will be solved. Once AA and preferential treatment for blacks has been abolished, it will be abolished for all minorities and special groups. When our society returns to being one driven by productivity and accomplishment a/k/a merit, things will probably improve.

Anonymous said...

Unfortunately we have already seen what happens when you give Blacks minimal government. You get Haiti or Liberia and not a nation of Ben Carsons.

This is something that needs to be considered by those of a libertarian bent. Liberty just may be a racial thing. It works with a high IQ, future oriented demographic. It does not work with low a IQ, impulse driven demographic. Libertarianism requires rational decision makers who can trade value for value in an open market. But we see a distinct lack of rationality in the Haitis, Liberias and Detroits of the world.

To give one example: many libertarians denounce "racism" as a form of collectivism. But then how do they plan to deal with blacks who pursue racially based, collectivist polices--affirmative action, minorities only contracts, gangbanging, driving whites out of Zimbabwe, etc? It's in the self-interest of blacks to pursue these policies, since they gain by collectivism, regardless of their violations of the principles of liberty.

Point is, liberty can work in a white society, but in a society dominated by blacks, or even with a sizable black minority? Look at the results. Blacks demand more Big Government--and get them. And the presence of large numbers of blacks requires the government to put in the boot with more law enforcement and more paramilitary policing.

Big Government exploded in size at the same time the Civil Rights agenda went into force.

You can have liberty, or you can have equality, but you can not have both.

Bogolyubski said...

Anonymous
To give one example: many libertarians denounce "racism" as a form of collectivism. But then how do they plan to deal with blacks who pursue racially based, collectivist polices--affirmative action, minorities only contracts, gangbanging, driving whites out of Zimbabwe, etc? It's in the self-interest of blacks to pursue these policies, since they gain by collectivism, regardless of their violations of the principles of liberty.

The libertarians were infiltrated by the anti-racists, backed with Soros money, starting around a decade ago. They've now gotten effective control of the 'movement' and are witch-hunting those accused of rayciss - this being deemed "collectivist", allegedly by St. Ayn Rand herself. (Her own view was a bit more complex than that, if you actually read what she said. She ended up talking out of both sides of her mouth, itself a genetic characteristic.) At any rate, like the feminists reacting to Musloid and negro gang-rape and primping of young girls - it's the patriarchy's (YT's) fault, they completely ignore the racial-collectivism of all people except YT, who will naturally be lectured endlessly. It's the same pattern repeating itself over. The real objective of these new libertarians has far less to do with liberty and far more to do with the liberty to exterminate YT with impunity. That's what "anti-racism" really is - merely a code-word for "Kill YT".