Saturday, December 10, 2011

Black Men Can't Throw

Robert Griffin III: The Next Black Quarterback Hope
In my mind, Steve Spurrier - the former head ball coach at Duke, Florida, and current coach of South Carolina - is the finest evaluator and developer of quarterbacks in college football (well, maybe not so much at South Carolina, where he seems more interested in getting borderline retards enrolled to play football then developing a sound quarterback).

Names like Shane Matthews, 1996 Heisman Trophy winner Danny Wuerffel, Doug Johnson, and Rex Grossman stand-out as quarterbacks that Spurrier has tutored to greatness. One thing is noticeable about this group of people: they are all white.

Quarterback has long been the position in football that has eluded the Black athlete. For one reason: the deep-seated stereotype that Black people aren't smart enough to learn the complex offense, defensive schemes and that they lack the ability to discern variations in blitzes so they can audible the play to one that best suits the personnel on the field.

It is a well-known fact that college football and the NFL has been cognizant of this discrepancy (consider that, though the NFL is comprised of 69 percent Black athletes, since 1998, the quarterback position has been higher than 75 percent each year). 

It is telling then that only in 2005 did Steve Spurrier finally start a Black quarterback. Joseph Pearce wrote an article for The State to celebrate this event:
USC quarterback Antonio Heffner’s first career start also will be a first for Gamecocks coach Steve Spurrier.


When Heffner takes the field Saturday at Auburn’s Jordan-Hare Stadium, he will become the first black quarterback to start for Spurrier, whose 21-year, head-coaching career includes stops at Duke, Florida, Tampa Bay of the USFL and the NFL’s Washington Redskins.


Spurrier started two black quarterbacks as Duke’s offensive coordinator, recruited several black passers while at Florida, and had backup quarterbacks with the Tampa Bay Bandits who were black.


But Heffner, a redshirt freshman from Memphis, will be the first to start while Spurrier has been a head coach.


“I’m looking forward to seeing what Antonio does Saturday night. He’s done some good things in practice this week, so it’ll be interesting,” Spurrier said Thursday. “This is his opportunity. We all get that first opportunity. This is his. I think he’ll be as best prepared as he can.”


Former Florida quarterback John Reaves, who played under Spurrier in the USFL and later coached with him in Gainesville, said Spurrier is more concerned with winning percentage than skin color.


“Steve doesn’t care. He just wants to win,” Reaves said. “He’ll take a Chinese quarterback.”


When Spurrier was Duke’s offensive coordinator in 1981-82, Brent Clinkscale and Ron Sally, both of whom are black, started a couple of games in place of Ben Bennett. Sally later followed Spurrier to the USFL in Tampa Bay, where he and Billy Koonce, another black quarterback, were backups to Reaves.


When Sally and Ben Bennett were competing for the starting job, Spurrier was equally demanding of both.


“There was no racial distinction,’ said Sally, a former executive with the Colorado Avalanche and Denver Nuggets.


Spurrier inherited a black quarterback when he arrived at Florida in 1990. According to Reaves, Donald Douglas went through winter workouts and spring practice with the Gators before transferring to Houston.


Spurrier also inherited a black quarterback at USC. Syvelle Newton played all 11 games at quarterback in 2004, including five starts. On the day Spurrier was hired at USC in late November, Dean Boyd, Newton’s coach at Marlboro County, predicted that Newton would not fit in Spurrier’s offensive system.


“We all know what Spurrier likes to see in a quarterback: tall, blond-haired, blue-eyed,” Boyd said at the time. “I fear it’s not going to be good for Syvelle. Syvelle’s a good college quarterback, but he isn’t the kind of quarterback (Spurrier) would go for.”


Boyd said he did not mean to imply that race would factor into Spurrier’s evaluation of Newton. He said he was pointing out that Spurrier generally preferred pocket passers to more mobile quarterbacks.


“It wasn’t a black-white thing with me. It was more of a dropback (versus) a sprint-out thing,” Boyd said Thursday. “I know what Syvelle’s strengths were as a quarterback, and it was more a run-oriented quarterback.”


Newton moved to receiver shortly after Spurrier’s arrival, clearing the path for Blake Mitchell, more of a dropback passer than Newton.


Mitchell started the first four games this season before spraining his left ankle last week in USC’s 45-20 win against Troy. Spurrier named Heffner the starter early in the week and said Newton will be the emergency quarterback at Auburn.


“The ideal quarterback is a guy that can throw like Joe Namath and run like Michael Vick,” Spurrier said. “I’ve always wished I had a quarterback that when you call a play that, ‘Gee, that’s not good against that defense,’ he bounces out and makes 18 yards running.


“We tried to recruit top quarterbacks, regardless of black or white,” Spurrier said. “And sometimes when we don’t have one for so long there’s a few high school coaches that say, ‘He wouldn’t play a black quarterback.’


“I don’t know what I can do about it. If I wouldn’t play a black quarterback, why would I play a black center, a black guard, wide receiver?”


In 1991, Spurrier signed Antwan Chiles, a black quarterback who transferred to Division I-AA Liberty. Before leaving Florida after the 2001 season, Spurrier laid the groundwork in the recruitment of Gavin Dickey, a black quarterback who has played several positions for the Gators.


Reaves, whose son, David, is a USC assistant, said he never has known Spurrier to base a personnel decision on race.


“He ain’t like that at all,” Reaves said. “Never a word or breath out of his mouth in any direction like that.”


“We all just play the best players,” Spurrier said. “I don’t know any coach in America that has lasted any time that has been prejudiced. I don’t know any out there.”
For historical purposes only, Auburn won 48-7 that day. College football coaches don't "just play the best players" but instead primarily focus on recruiting Black males as early as their freshmen years in high schools. Remember though, that Black people mature faster than white people, and remember that most college coaches don't recruit white running backs, receivers, or defensive backs, because they are constantly compared to Black athletes who have - for the most part - reached their physical maturity by the time they are 16 - 17.

Quarterback has been a position that Black athletes have had a difficult time of dominating. Noticing that Black athletes do have a numerical superiority of roster spots at certain positions, is it only fair to speculate that intelligence (and quick decision making) could play a factor in the lack of Black quarterbacks?

Though the 2010 college football was one that The Wall Street Journal dubbed "The year of the Black Quarterback":
When Cameron Newton and Darron Thomas square off in college football's upcoming national-title game, everyone will be talking about the two quarterbacks' fleet feet, their accurate arms and their leadership abilities.
The one thing no one is discussing: They're both black.
As the Jan. 10 national-title showdown between Mr. Newton's Auburn Tigers and Mr. Thomas's Oregon Ducks approaches, it's gone virtually unmentioned how black quarterbacks have been the story of the 2010 season. Major-college teams have long had black quarterbacks, of course—Cornelius Greene of Ohio State, Dennis Franklin of Michigan and numerous others operated conservative, run-based offenses back in the 1970s. But never has the achievement level of black quarterbacks been so high. 

It's hardly just them. In the six major conferences—the Atlantic Coast, Big 12, Big East, Big Ten, Pac-10 and Southeastern—six black quarterbacks were named first- or second-team all-conference. That's half of the spots. (A seventh, Michigan's Denard Robinson, was named Big Ten offensive player of the year.) This occurred even though black quarterbacks held less than a third of the 65 starting quarterback positions.


The success of black quarterbacks in college football dovetails with how blacks began to stand out in other sports decades ago, says Ben Carrington, an associate professor of sociology at Texas. "There was a phenomenon that, for black players to gain acceptance, they had to be exceptional," he said. "You couldn't be average. People are less cognizant of race today, but quarterback is historically thought of as a white position."
Let's get a few things straight: for decades, those same people who believe Black people hold a monopoly on "speed" have been engaging in a bit of social engineering to try and get more Black athletes at the quarterback position. The spread offense is one such attempt, an offense that 48 offenses in college (as of 2009) run currently.

Andrew Luck: The future of the NFL
This has given Black athletes like Denard Robinson of Michigan, Dennis Dixon and Darren Thomas of Oregon, and Robert Griffin III of Baylor the opportunity to utilize that Black "speed" to be a dual-threat quarterback (one who can both beat a defense by throwing and running). Strangely, a number of college football teams have established a tradition of only playing Black quarterbacks: Virginia Tech, Oregon, Georgia Tech, Mississippi State, and West Virginia have firmly entrenched a Black-only policy at quarterback as of late.

Perhaps this is because of the divisive nature that not playing a Black quarterback can have on a team. Racial quarterback controversies have continually plagued and divided Penn State teams over the years. In 2000, Mike Dubose last Alabama was ripped apart by a controversy over starting a Black Andrew Zow or a white Tyler Watts. It even plagued Grambling (a HBCU) when they started a white quarterback named Michael Kornblau back in the 1990s. It happened to white quarterback Marcus Jacoby at Southern University too.


Back in 1988, Doug Williams was the first Black quarterback to win the Super Bowl. It seemed the crusade to find a capable Black quarterback was complete. Twenty-three years later, that crusade is still on-going:
When it comes to breaking barriers, Williams has both figuratively and literally written the book on the subject -- his book "Quarterblack: Shattering the NFL Myth," was published in 1990. And since the day he hoisted the Vince Lombardi Trophy, the progress African-Americans have made in both the coaching and quarterbacking ranks in the NFL has been undeniable.

In celebration of Black History Month, we sat down with Williams to get his take on the progress the NFL has made with regard to opportunities for African-Americans:
It's OK to be a backup: "I'm a firm believer in guys who are not starters. I applaud the Pittsburgh Steelers for believing in the Rooney Rule [which requires NFL teams to interview African-American candidates for head-coaching and senior-level opportunities], but also the quarterback side of it. They have two African-American quarterbacks [Charlie Batch and Byron Leftwich] who are backups. If you look around the league, that's hard to find. For the most part, if you're not a starter, you don't get a second chance."
Black QBs need to be developed: "You have to be willing to let the black quarterback be your third guy. If you go down the rosters of NFL teams, there aren't many third black quarterbacks. Joe Webb was up in Minnesota, and Tarvaris Jackson is the backup. We have to get more backups in the hopper, which will lead to more opportunities."
Black quarterbacks need to be trusted: "Coaches have to sit down and talk realistically to black quarterbacks and tell them what to expect. There's a lot of work to be done, and expectations are bigger than you imagine. There's a trust there and the guy has to believe in you. We've made progress with Michael Vick getting a second chance. Then again, some of the scrutiny that Donovan McNabb went through, as much as he's done over his career, I think that's a little unfair."
 Why is there no crusade to get more white running backs (like Southern Methodist's Zach Line) and develop them? Why aren't white receivers being nurtured to be trusted to make the big catch? Why is there a social movement - really, a crusade -- to get Black quarterbacks in a more prominent role at the NCAA and NFL level? What about the paucity of white corner backs or safety's? Two white starting corner backs at the college level, Greg Heban of Indiana and Texas Tech's Sawyer Vest were both walk-ons. As is starting white safety Jordan Kovacs at Michigan.

Where's there social movement? Why isn't Jason Sehron mentoring them and others with articles at ESPN?

Ebony Magazine had this article published back in 1989 about Black quarterbacks:
The quarterback is perhaps the most glamorous and revered position in sports. The very word epitomizes the endearing qualities of a triumphant field general: ability, brilliance, control, maturity and, above all, leadership. For years, the quarterback was seen as one of football's ultimate authority figures and a position very few Blacks were allowed to hold.
Is this why there is a movement to find more Black quarterbacks to start at colleges all across the country, and then - God willingly - hopefully complete the Black-out of the NFL?


The New York Times wrote this about Russell Wilson, a transfer to Wisconsin from North Carolina State, before the season started:
With his arrival as a one-year transfer from North Carolina State, Wilson is ringing in a new era of Wisconsin football, which has always been heavy on steak and light on sizzle. The addition of the dynamic Wilson marks an evolution for the Badgers from their between-the-tackles roots.
So you see, each year, a Black quarterback is picked to be heavily profiled and promoted as the next big thing. Vince Young, Jamarcus Russell, and Michael Vick all had their shot as well in the NFL. Before the NFL season was one week old, Cam Newton was pegged as the Black savoir for the Black quarterback, until the reality of Tim Tebow set-in.

A man who might win the 2011 Heisman Trophy, Robert Griffin III of Baylor, has been pegged as the next potential savior for the Black quarterback. Here's Sports Illustrated on him:
Spend enough time in the orbit of Robert Griffin III—known around Waco, Texas, as RG3, Superman, Black Jesus, the Ambassador and the Most Exciting Player in College Football—and it's impossible to shake the thought that the cheery quarterback was constructed in a secret military lab in southern Japan. Yes, official records contend that Griffin, 21, was born at Camp Lester on Okinawa to two loving Army sergeants, Robert Jr. and Jacqueline. (The family settled in Copperas Cove, Texas, in time for Robert III to go to kindergarten.) But these days, as a legend mushrooms around the Griffins' only son, suspicions about his merely human origins have followed. "You can put limitations on even the great ones," says decorated Baylor track and field director Clyde Hart, who has coached Olympic gold medalists Michael Johnson and Jeremy Wariner. "With Robert, you can't do that. He's ... different."
Griffin plays in the Big 12, a league not exactly known for their defense. He is the beneficiary of the spread offense (like Denard Robinson) system, and it will be interesting to see if he has the ability to be the drop-back passer that Steve Spurrier is so found of recruiting and developing.

So let's just get to the point: for decades, there has been a concerted effort to develop, recruit, promote, and celebrate the Black quarterback.

The same can't be said for white running backs, white corner backs, or white defensive backs. 

Despite all of this, it's pretty obvious that Black Men Can't Throw.

Perhaps it does have something to do with intelligence after all.

If only Tim Tebow were Black, then you'd see a media push like you wouldn't believe.

33 comments:

Anonymous said...

To be fair, I read somewhere that Robert Griffin has a 3.7 GPA and is finishing his Master's Degree.

Anonymous said...

"When it comes to breaking barriers, Williams has both figuratively and literally written the book on the subject -- his book "Quarterblack: Shattering the NFL Myth," was published in 1990."

Williams was an average NFL QB at best, who had a career day in the Super Bowl.

His Super Bowl win doesn't "shatter" any "myths".

Anonymous said...

I dont see pro sports as a 'macrocosm' of society but a red flag as to whats wrong with society!

kev said...

'All three academies also have prep schools. They exist primarily for students who have an interest in the academy but are not considered ready academically to enroll after their senior year of high school. The prep schools are used, most of the time, for two groups of students: minorities who need to improve their board scores and take or retake core courses, and athletes who need similar academic help. This allows the academy coaching staffs to recruit players who fall below the average SAT score for the rest of the student body, which is about 1200 at both Army and Navy'
O pleeze............remedial school at elite academies..o pleeze..
the diversity police at work

Charles Martel said...

Another well written and well-timed piece. The Baylor QB is even up for the Heisman this year I believe.

The real problem with Black Quarterbacks is that they will continue to fail as long as the focus is on wether there are enough black quarterbacks not wether there are enough good quarterbacks. Cam Newtons numbers this year are awful, but hey hes' got 13 rushing touchdowns, which comes in real handy for a Carolina Panthers team that has two good running backs already. I'm sure they love the bonus money they'll be missing out on because a rookie wearing number 1 is a ball hog. And in a contract year , such as DeAngelo Williams is, it can't be much help when nobody hands you the ball. Of course all that running and scoring with your legs is only a liability if your skin is white. If you are black then it makes you unconventional and an instant MVP.

If Tebow were black he would have had a police record dating back to his years in college, he would have finished at Alabama not Florida, he would have been drafted first overall and been given a huge undeserved contract along with overly lucrative cooperate sponsorship deals based on an assumed performance on the field that he just never quite lives up to, he would have beaten his girlfriend or wife or baby-momma a couple of times or shot someone at a club or killed a few dogs and then found God in jail.

I for one am a Tebow fan. I look at his stats and smile because of how good they really are and most importantly he has more wins than any of the over hyped loud mouth criminal blacks I am being told to cheer for every Sunday. There is a huge glaring double standard when it comes to Tim Tebow and the arguments about wether his play represents ability or liability. ESPmsNbc in particular can segue smoothly from gushing about Cam Newton or Michael ( I kill dogs for fun) Vick, how their "un-conventional styles" create "nightmares for defenses", and then insult Tebow with phrases like "erratic" "unprofessional" while slamming his running ability as an example of proof that he "can't throw".
I say go Timmy.
Traded my best receiver........F**k you, lets roll.
Running back by committee......F**k you, lets roll.
Questionable offensive line..........F**k you, lets roll.
GM and Coaching staff not on my side.......you get the picture.

I think Tebows small story so far has a much larger meaning. The all powerful system has declared that Tebow must fail, the system has trotted out all of their priests of public relations and their black run cover up artists to shame Tebow, to insult him and his faith. The want him to fail, to throw interceptions, to fumble, to lose on the biggest stage, they need him to fail, they will pounce on his mistake and nail him as hard as they can when the time comes.
Tebows struggle is our struggle. Tebow is being harangued by the pharisees right now and they may succeed in getting their blood, but at what cost will they have sacrificed a good son?
Tebow is a good kid and a great competitor and he needs to be careful because they will watch him run and throw himself to death trying in vain to earn the respect of the DWL's busy selling their grandchildren's future for more "street-cred".

Trying to take away my country.....Fuck you, lets roll.

Anonymous said...

Black men can throw. They just can't read defenses.

YT said...

Please tell me I'm not the only one that gets more entertainment from reading ebergreen's half-cooked rationalizations about blacks than I do from the actual PK articles?

I know PK works really hard on these things and writes them well. But the icing on that cake has to be when the same semi-retarded black tries to be "intu-lek-tchu-al" right after it.

I'm starting to think that ebergreen is a creation of PK he uses to up the entertainment value or a superior way of illustrating a point, like Plato's Socratic Dialogues.

Anonymous said...

What Robert Griffin III has going for him is that out of all "The Next Black Quarterback Hopes" he is actually likeable and marketable. I(and many whites) will always root for whomever is playing against Vick and Newton.

BTW, I don't understand your support of Tebow... Tebow's fun to watch and I actually do root for him but 1) He's pretty dumb. He got a 890 on his SAT and a 22 on his Wonderlic(1 point higher than Cam Newton) 2) He is sort of paving the way for black quarterbacks by taking up a more black friendly offensive style. If the last game is any indication though this is starting to change. I think Elway and company understand this which is why they're going to force him to be more and more traditional quarterback.

The Fighting Whitey said...

"Remember though, that Black people mature faster than white people, and remember that most college coaches don't recruit white running backs, receivers, or defensive backs, because they are constantly compared to Black athletes who have - for the most part - reached their physical maturity by the time they are 16 - 17"

This fact also greatly affects the pool of white collegiate players. If you get cut or sit the bench freshman year because you are a 13 year old white kid entering puberty competing against black guys who have been shaving since fifth grade, your football playing days are likely over, even if at 18 you are 6'4", 220 pounds and run a 4.8 40 (I know).

This also explains why the majority of white players in the NBA are European. In America, you get cut freshman year because the black kids are all grown up and your are still 5'6"(trust me, I know).

In Europe, there are no black kids in your grade who get all the spots, so you are able to develop your skills and have the chance to be world class player in your early 20's.

Anonymous said...

Griffin just won the Heisman.It would be interesting to see how the former black Heisman winners voted,as well as all black voters.

Anonymous said...

When Andrew Luck finishes second two years in a row to black QB's,you know that the fix is in.

Charles Martel said...

And to the anon #5: I said I liked Tebows winning attitude and winning record; I never said the guy was a genius.
And not that anybody is asking, but Bart Starr is THE greatest QB of all time.
The smartest quarterback ever was a college QB turned NFL punter that also played wide receiver: Pat McInally.

And cut Tebow some slack for his scores on those tests, he did go to Florida and as a Football player he was privy to all the non-educational self-indulgent behavior enablers that SEC scholarships can allow. At least he doesn't wear fake glasses to interviews so as better imitate an intellectual.

Anonymous said...

To Anon @ 6:02 pm:

Newton and RG3 both have had significantly better statistical seasons the past 2 years than Luck (Newton en route to a national championship and Griffin on the verge of breaking the single-season passing efficiency record with a rating of 192.3...Luck is sitting at 167.5). I am a huge Luck fan and believe he will eventually be a NFL All-Pro, but steady and consistent doesn't win the Heisman...ask Peyton Manning. Griffin has more of the "wow" factor to his game, led his team to a blistering 4-0 record to complete the season, and capped it off with a huge game against one of the nation's most visible schools, the Texas Longhorns. Had Stanford finished with a perfect record the scales might have leaned in the favor of Luck, but that did not happen. I find it hard to give the Heisman to a guy whose team lost 3 regular season games, but it has happened in the past (ironically enough Tim Tebow in 2007). Andrew Luck has had a great couple of seasons, but somebody else was just a little bit better both of those years.

rae4palin said...

Of course you saw the college basketbrawl today. The guy who started it said he was justified because he had been "disrespected."

rae4palin said...

Y'all see the college basketbrawl today? The instigator said he had been "disrespected."

Ben N Indiana said...

YT said...

Please tell me I'm not the only one that gets more entertainment from reading ebergreen's half-cooked rationalizations about blacks than I do from the actual PK articles?


He's (she?) gone AWOL recently.

I think he posted one lie too many. Typical of PC/BS he makes up whatever scenario fits the PC agenda. Truth be damned.

We'll see if he has the courage to re-emerge or, perhaps, reinvent himself with another nick.

(I learned long ago that the best way to dismiss leftist loons is to shine the light of truth on their nonsense, then sit back and endure their shallow sarcasm and name-calling.)

bobn said...

Rex Grossman

Oh gawd. You spelled that wrong. It's "Wrecks Grossman".

The deal is there were 2 of him. Only one of them was a decent quarterback. And you never knew which one would show up. Except I knew going in that the bad one would be there for the SuperBowl.

Anonymous said...

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am i the only one that sees the racism in this?

it goes all the way back to kermit washington decking rudy tomjonovich and ruining his career.

remember erving attacking bird,

robert parrish jumping on bill laimbeer,

kevin garnett cold cocked a white guy a few tears ago in minnesota during a pick up game because the white guy was outplayng garnett and making him look bad.

i know what you'll say,black players fight black players too,but look at the instances,they push and pull maybe yell at each other but they just lose it when it's a white guy.

look at jabbar,he used to get pushed around and beat up all the time but the only time you ever saw him lose control was when it was a white guy.

look at this fight today.

the only guy that had anything bad happen to him was the white guy.racism straight up.but white people are afraid to call it what it is,unfortunately.

Kirik said...

"When it comes to breaking barriers, Williams has both figuratively and literally written the book on the subject -- his book "Quarterblack: Shattering the NFL Myth," was published in 1990."

Williams was an average NFL QB at best, who had a career day in the Super Bowl.

His Super Bowl win doesn't "shatter" any "myths".


Tremendous! When people talk about the nigger called Doug Williams, they always talk about that Super Bowl win, and leave out the rest of its career. No one ever mentions that it had a career completion percentage of less than 50%, about a 1:1 touchdown/interception ratio (100 TD's to 93 INT's) and an anemic lifetime QB rating of 69.4.

No one wants to tell the truth about that overrated brown animal because "truth be rayciss!" The last thing we want to do is hurt its feelings, right?

I wouldn't be surprised at all if, at some point, the niggers started howling for Williams to be inducted into Canton. Of course it doesn't deserve to be enshrined in Canton, but at some point the niggers will demand a black Hall of Fame QB, and the animal named Doug Williams is the closest thing they have to a HOF caliber QB.

Cheers,

Kirik

Hell_Is_Like_Newark said...

Remember though, that Black people mature faster than white people

This is on of the things that turned me off to sports. The black kids were (and a lesser extent, the kids with Italian heritage) were full grown adults by 15 or 16 years of age.

I was at the other extreme end of the spectrum. At 15 I still looked 12. I didn't have to start shaving daily until I was 24.

Anonymous said...

they can audible the play

Is that a spelling-helper-induced error? This is happening a lot.

Normally I can figure out what you mean despite the grammar and usage failures, but in this case I'm totally mystified.

Anonymous said...

"his book "Quarterblack: Shattering the NFL Myth," was published in 1990.""

WTF? Just out of curiosity, WHO exactly did they think was going to purchase this book?

BTW, Doug Williams once spiked the ball on 4th down to stop the clock, he's an idiot.

Anonymous said...

Anecdotal,but kinda sorta related.

Black men can't shoot,either. At least not from what I got the chance to observe while in the Army. And I suspect it's largely genetic.

And the heck of it was that they couldn't shoot with an M 16,which is what I call a "girlfriend rifle. What you take along to the range to let your Sig-O use,so that she can learn to shoot a "real rifle",if she's interested at all,which she most likely isn't.

M 16's are light weight,not terribly noisy,and have very little discernible recoil. And to be fair,they're relatively accurate,although the triggers on them leave much to be desired. And we still had trouble getting the black guys through a rifle qualification process.

It may be that blacks are kind of hardwired for close up activities. I can tell you that trying to explain even very elementary ballistics and adjustment of aperture sights to a black guy is very largely a waste of time,at least judging from my experience.

Anonymous said...

"Normally I can figure out what you mean despite the grammar and usage failures, but in this case I'm totally mystified."

In this case, "audible" is being used as a verb. When a quarterback "audibles", he changes the play at the line of scrimmage.

In football lingo, this is normal use.

Anonymous said...

Old-line SEC fan here. I have always been somewhat bemused that Steve Spurrier didn't bank on a black QB very often.

Anonymous said...

1) Who gives half a damn what that ape Stewart has to say - other than jock sniffers?

2) This country has degenerated to the point that blacks can openly expound all the racism they wish, and get hardy laughs, and "mad respect" from prissy little whites like a Lupica, etc...

3) I have no idea how any white person can give a shit about pro athletes who openly despise them.

I know those who hate PK's sports articles will never get it, but this type of "discussion" goes on wherever blacks are - politics, the workplace, etc..

Blacks HATE whites, and what used to be America. They hate us. It really is time to return the favor...

- Sweep the leg

Whiskey said...

Black guys don't do well at QB because like kicking (another all-White position, basically) it requires PRACTICE.

You can't just be athletic at the position. To be successful, you MUST be able to hit the open receiver with a touch pass within three seconds of the snap in the NFL. The rush WILL get there that soon. Defenses sooner or later WILL contain even a running QB. This requires countless hours from Junior High onwards of practice, practice, practice. Plus coaching, coaching, coaching, including all sorts of QB camps (kickers have their own camps). That pretty much sorts out all but the White middle class, with fathers around to provide support and money for that sort of practice and coaching.

That's no big mystery. The only really successful career-wise Black QB was the "Black Brett Favre" aka Warren Moon. Like Favre a roll-out scrambler, who would buy time to get a read on defenses AS THEY CHANGE and roll the dice to the open man. Basically the two played the same way. Williams is like Giants Super Bowl winning QB Jeff Hostetler. A decent journeyman who could not screw it up on a defense-dominant team (that had a power-run game). Is someone going to put Hoss up in the Hall of Fame (I don't think so.) And I like Hoss. He's just not a great QB. He never was.

Look at McNabb. There's a reason he's bouncing around so much, no one really wants him with so many QB injuries -- he cannot hit the open guy with a soft-touch pass, one that only the receiver can grab, and a pass made "short" around the sidelines only about 10 yds. from the line of scrimmage. McNabb can throw the bomb, he's got the muscle no problem. But not the SKILL which comes from mind-numbing practice to create excellence.

Black guys always want to muscle things in, and fall apart when that's not working at the QB position. Save Moon, who played like Favre. And had the same soft touch for the short passes too.

Zenster said...

Whiskey: That pretty much sorts out all but the White middle class, with fathers around to provide support and money for that sort of practice and coaching.

I really like your linkage of family structure to qualification for the NFL's most demanding position.

That's no big mystery. The only really successful career-wise Black QB was the "Black Brett Favre" aka Warren Moon.

Just as in real life, where parental encouragement plays a significant role in preparing and entering into a true career. To me, your use of the word "career" is very telling as it implies long-term results and not just a "win-the-next-game" mentality that seems to predominate in modern professional sports.

By way of this, I will note the passing of "Dynasty" teams that were, once upon a time, built to last. Not being a sports fan, I can only assume that free-agency has played a large role in breaking up what were once carefully structured player groups which coalesced a broad variety of talent into a single functional unit.

McNabb can throw the bomb, he's got the muscle no problem. But not the SKILL which comes from mind-numbing practice to create excellence.

Again, you commendably harken back to the central issue of early parental involvement which is so often needed to absorb the time demands required for such repetitious drilling and practice.

The typical Black family structure ― baby daddies and all ― is simply, in no way suited to creating products that, otherwise, entirely rely upon such dedication and perseverance.

In this, you also seem to recognize the "SKILL" that ― from a QB role, at least ― is so vital in achieving lasting success. With respect to that, I continue in maintaining how "twitch" or "burst" speed and endurance will never surmount the overall demand for mental agility so amply demonstrated by, for instance, Joe Montana, professional football's undisputed master of the two minute drive.

Black guys always want to muscle things in, and fall apart when that's not working at the QB position.

This over-reliance upon individual resources ― however limited they may be ― is directly reflected in the "showboating" behavior of so many Black athletes both on and off field. It is a diametric opposite of the cooperative motif which real Dynasty teams depend upon.

Zenster said...

Anonymous (December 11, 2011 7:17 AM): Black men can't shoot,either.

What? You mean that sidewise ghetto pistol grip don't do sh!t for accuracy?

Well, tie me to a hog and throw me in the mud!

Svigor said...

It may be that blacks are kind of hardwired for close up activities. I can tell you that trying to explain even very elementary ballistics and adjustment of aperture sights to a black guy is very largely a waste of time,at least judging from my experience.

Shooting and throwing use the same brain structures. Both are related to the ability to roll objects in "3D" in one's head.

I suspect that driving and piloting are similar.

Related fields that I suspect are owed to this "wetware" and at which Whites have an edge:

Pilot (especially fighter pilots)
Driver (especially race car driver)
Quarterback
Marksman

Svigor said...

Note how "White" Warren Moon is. He's clearly closer to "mulatto" than to "Black" in coloring, and his features are distinctly "White" for a "Black" guy. If I had to guess I'd say his ancestry is predominantly White, not Black.

Also, keep in mind that as far as injuries are concerned, it's better to think of Black quarterbacks as hybrid RBs/QBs. They're going to be subject to a lot more "churn" than White quarterbacks. Add in their present-orientation and impulsiveness, and we get an even further swing toward being injury-prone. Which plays right into the fact that QBs have a maturation curve that's longer than that for RBs.

In short, we're going to continue to see an awful lot of churn among Black QBs, and consequently, under-performance.

Anonymous said...

It's been a fact for a long time that black men can't throw. Every muscleman competition is won by a white brother. The best pitchers in baseball are European Americans and the best quarterbacks in the NFL are European Americans. We just can't say that because it's racism. Obama is the first half white president in this country and we need to move forward. White men can throw and black men can run. Peace.

Anonymous said...

It's been a fact for a long time that black men can't throw. Every muscleman competition is won by a white brother. The best pitchers in baseball are European Americans and the best quarterbacks in the NFL are European Americans. We just can't say that because it's racism. Obama is the first half white president in this country and we need to move forward. White men can throw and black men can run. Peace.