Thursday, December 8, 2011

Freedom Failed: Hoses Then, Hoses Now

One of my goals in life is to see Birmingham become a great city again. With the current population occupying Birmingham (and Detroit), such a goal is impossible. Its fate is sealed, just like those of any large city with an overwhelmingly "urban" -- Black -- population.

Dec. 2011 -- Water Cannon needed in Staten Island
A city that has built statues of snarling dogs and policemen attacking innocent Black girls, not to mention a statue of a water hose targeting two Black kids, is one that is dead. Statues and memorials should be erected to commemorate great events or great men and women. In the case of Birmingham, you have statutes around the city that signify the harbinger of its of decline.

For it was these events -- broadcast on ABC, CBS, and NBC, with the pictures spread through Time and Life magazine -- that convinced an entire nation of the evil of Birmingham, and by extension, gave sympathy to the Civil Rights movement. After all, life is just a public relations battle, and those snarling dogs and water hoses helped those who wanted to erect Black-Run America (BRA).

The creation of Black-Run America (BRA) enabled complete freedom for Black people to do whatever they felt like (in the case of Birmingham and Detroit, running once magnificent cities into the ground knowing that no one would ever dare point the finger of blame in their direction), and in the summer of 2011 we saw the ultimate culmination of where that freedom leads: Mahogany Mobs and Mahogany Smash and Grabs.

WorldStarHipHop (worldstarhiphop.com) has compiled enough video evidence - graciously uploaded by Black people trying to garner 15 minutes of Black fame - to show what freedom in a nation governed by the principles of BRA inevitably leads to.

This has nothing to with politics. This has nothing to do with ideology. The IHAD people (I have a dream) over at Freerepublic.com believe the horrific beating by a mob of Black people of a student at Dean College in Massachusetts was the result of "liberal" policies in that state.  

Take a look at WorldStarHipHop, IHAD people; it's the same anywhere in the country with Black people. Even in the reddest of red states (white states) Alabama, where Black students at the Historical Black College and University (HBCU) Alabama State in Montgomery recently had a full-on riot during lunch.

A glance at WorldStarHipHop (WSHH) helps you understand why gun sales are at record highs. Remember this: life is just a public relations battle and The Drudge Report now is more powerful then Life and Time were back in the 1960s. That sympathy garnered from black and white photos of people being hosed down in Birmingham back in the 60s is gone, replaced with video -- gleefully taken by Black people and quickly uploaded to WSHH -- that Drudge and other outlets showcase on regular basis.

When I see the photos from the 1960s of fire hoses being turned on protesters in Birmingham, my only thought rests on the knowledge that in 2011 Jefferson County -- home to Birmingham -- declared the largest municipal bankruptcy in American history. At 72 percent Black, Birmingham gives us a glimpse as to what will soon befall Detroit (82 percent Black).

Black-Run America (BRA) cannot admit that race factors in heavily to discussion of the collapse of Birmingham and Detroit, for it undermines the central concept of this ruling ideology: as South Park recently stated, "Black people can do no wrong."

It's no longer the 1960s, but in 2011 Staten Island a mob of Black girls had not just a water hose, but a water cannon used to try and disperse the Mahogany Mob that was threatening police officers:

WorldStarHipHop.com helps illustrate why Freedom Failed
Firefighters came to the rescue of two police officers outnumbered in Mariners Harbor today, in a scene so chaotic that New York’s Bravest employed a truck-mounted deluge gun -- a water cannon -- to fend off the marauding group of teens.
The scene unfolded at about 3:30 p.m. in front of 83 Harbor Rd., where a large group of teenagers had amassed to confront a teenage girl who lives in the residence.
By the time it was over, two officers were sent to Richmond University Medical Center, West Brighton, for treatment, and nine teens ended up under arrest, said Inspector John Denesopolis, the 120th Precinct's commanding officer. Police also recovered a starter pistol, he said.
The officers were OK, but "banged up," Denesopolis said.
"It was chaos," said one neighbor, who lives across the street but declined to give his name, stating that he feared retaliation. "The yelling got louder and louder and louder... There was probably 50 to 55 kids out here, and they were challenging one girl."
The group was threatening the girl, yelling at her to come out and fight, witnesses told the Advance. That sparked calls to 911, and two officers, one male, the other female, arrived at the scene.
The male officer attempted to arrest a member of the crowd, and the teens turned on him, knocking him to the ground.
"The kids were on top of the cop while the cop was arresting the first person," the neighbor said.
When his female partner tried to intervene, witnesses said, she was knocked down as well. As she was being attacked, she shouted for assistance on her police radio. 

Both police officers were on the ground," said another neighbor, who also requested anonymity. "The kids were attacking them." 

The scene happened just a few houses down from the FDNY's Mariners Harbor-based Engine Co. 158. The truck got to the street within moments, witnesses said, and blasted the teens with the engine's cannon-shaped deluge gun to disperse the crowd, according to witnesses. A large police presence, including an NYPD helicopter, soon followed, chasing the teens down to make several arrests.

Welcome to BRA. Freedom in BRA has forced white flight from every major city in America; it has given us real Climate Change in those cities; and it has bankrupted the United States.

Water Hose Statue in Birmingham
Birmingham and Detroit are dead cities. Birmingham and Detroit are two of the most violent cities in America, courtesy of that same group of people responsible for 53 percent of the known murders in 2010. Birmingham and Detroit are a reminder that freedom failed.

Looking at statues in Birmingham that depict water hoses and snarling dogs, all you can really do is laugh. For the whole reason Birmingham and other towns, counties, and cities throughout the south are dead (and all across America where "The Great Migration" went) can be traced to one statue that sits outside Legion Field in the heart of one of the worst ghettos Black areas in all of Birmingham.

That statue is of Paul "Bear" Bryant. Stay tuned, for in the next five days this Web site and two others will post the culmination of The Opiate of America.

113 comments:

Anonymous said...

Nice irony. Wonder if this incident will make it as a sequel to "Eyes on the Prize?"

From the news article:

...the incident escalated from a "he-said, she-said" over picking sides in a gang dispute at school.
... and when the group arrived at her doorstep, they were carrying "guns, blades and knives."


Another legacy of MLK?

Gang violence?

Youths bringing an arsenal to their de-segregated schools?

Assaults on emergency personnel?

The funny thing is this: we see a great big production made out of the civil rights movement of the 1950s-60s, out of non-violent resistance, out of people standing up for a world in which all could enjoy freedom from fear. Why, then, has the outcome been in incidents like this one?

(Well, we know why, that was a rhetorical question!)

American cities have seen endless street gang violence, largely generated by minority groups, since the 1960s. It may sound naive, but don't all these "oppressed" groups ever stop and consider the disconnect between their current pathological behavior and the civil rights movement which gave them their freedom? And why doesn't what is laughably called the civil rights movement today call these thugs and thugettes on their behavior?

And here is another thing to consider: when will this end? Or will incidents such as this one keep on escalating until we reach the point of societal disintegration?

W74 said...

When the Black burden was a pebble we said "No problem, this is nothing."

When the Black burden was a fist sized rock we said: "Sure, we'll carry your weight."

When the Black burden was a Millstone we said: "No, no, this isn't strangling us, no not at all."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
....And now that it is a boulder..., well.

Some of us want to either drop it, roll it back to Africa or smash it up...

But the disingenuous among us want to keep the status quo and let gravity take it's toll. They'd rather be crushed than admit that they were wrong.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Mighty Atlas may never shrug but we mortals, we humans, will have to weigh our options.

Baldowl said...

I spent a good hour posting comments and replies at that Staten Island news site yesterday, with almost all of them being deleted. I never employed the dreaded "N" word, nor any other epithet (except for "savages," which was permissible, evidently, because it was used in one of the few comments that weren't immediately removed). Finally, the moderator graced us with a comment informing us all that certain "inappropriate" comments had been removed. Putting a name on the problem is inappropriate, evidently; which by extension means solving the problem is not to be considered.

http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/13879282285/1/tumblr_lvuifmHcCQ1qec2uh

Recalling Zenster's self-censorship analogy from a couple days ago, the moderator had effectively learned to neither climb the ladder nor to allow anyone else near it.

SwampThizzle said...

55 on 1? Good ODDS it was moolies. All concepts of honor and a fair fight go right out the window with these untermenschen. Forget water cannons, a gatling gun is in order to pacify these Zulu hordes. If one of those NYPD cops blasted one of those "teens" in the head, as per department protocol and basic common sense, then the cannibal mob would have immediately chimped away, but later come back for a tearful candlelit vigil: "Oh, why, Lawd?! She was a good girl, she dint doo nuffinz!" Keep in mind, these were 13-15 year old girls in this incident attacking cops like in some zombie movie. See? They aren't "like us," not even remotely; in fact, they aren't even human.

Playing Roots Backwards said...

Without the pacifying influence of Jim Crow, Blacks are reverting to the lives for which they are genetically suited.

There is no point in analyzing the details of their daily atrocities. All we have to understand is that everything we are witnessing is merely the Black man's short journey back to his God-given life of mud huts, cannibalism and rape.

That is a transition that would be interesting, even laughable, if we were watching it on NatGeo. It is less interesting and not a bit funny when viewed at close range.

It's going to get a lot worse in the very near future. Arm yourselves. Move to a good place to make a stand if possible.

We aren't going to vote our way out of THIS mess.

SwampThizzle said...

"Rowdy youths." ROFL. I love how "rowdy youths" is now media shorthand for "violent feral mob of blacks." My grandparents might recall that back in the day, there were no violent feral mobs of blacks, but the occasional Real McCoy: actual rowdy youths. Now what are we going to call kids who have a particularly violent pillow fight? At the rate the media is trying to cover up endemic black criminality, they are going to be changing the meaning of a lot of words. Pay special attention when the news media refers to:

- "young people"
- "community leaders"
- "underprivileged minorities"
- "rowdy youths"

All are code for feral savage thug negroes.

Doug h. said...

I can remember my dad telling me stories how he would not go to Birmingham even in the mid 1960s without being heavily armed and with friends. He said there was a big danger from the so called freedom riders.

mr_evergreen said...

"Looking at statues in Birmingham that depict water hoses and snarling dogs, all you can really do is laugh. For the whole reason Birmingham and other towns, counties, and cities throughout the south are dead (and all across America where "The Great Migration" went) can be traced to one statue that sits outside Legion Field in the heart of one of the worst ghettos Black areas in all of Birmingham."

I can't laugh because if I was living in Birmingham back then, I would be the one being waterhosed. If the Deep South ever reverted back to Jim Crow policies, then I would protest. I wouldn't stand for it.

The message I'm getting is that many people feel that only White people should have freedoms and Blacks shouldn't have any. If that is the way Birmingham wanted to be, then let Birmingham die. I don't care. I don't live in Birmingham, never will.

mr_evergreen said...

"American cities have seen endless street gang violence, largely generated by minority groups, since the 1960s. It may sound naive, but don't all these "oppressed" groups ever stop and consider the disconnect between their current pathological behavior and the civil rights movement which gave them their freedom? And why doesn't what is laughably called the civil rights movement today call these thugs and thugettes on their behavior?"

It boils down to individual behavior and not taking responsibility. People took responsibility back in the old days. Nowadays they don't. The difference between a law-abiding Black people and the thugs is that the thugs don't care about anyone or anything. They live by the minute. They wouldn't listen to the likes of Andrew Young or other civil rights leaders. They won't listen because they never have listened. They won't listen to Bill Cosby's Pound Cake Speech because they would not have listened in the first place. The African-American youths who will listen are the ones who have always taken good advice, who want do to better. The ones who won't listen will insult and make fun of people like me and Bill Cosby and say that we're "acting White".

Anonymous said...

"The message I'm getting is that many people feel that only White people should have freedoms and Blacks shouldn't have any."

The message I'm getting is that blacks behave a lot like sub-human animals, and they don't belong among whites.

Evergreen, your people are fucking savages.

Anonymous said...

"It boils down to individual behavior and not taking responsibility."

No, it boils down to BLACK behavior. This a great example of "blacks being black".

Baldowl said...

"Acting white," I suppose, is the term for not behaving like a goddamn savage? I'm so sorry if you've ever had that dreadful accusation hurled at you, Evergreen. Most of us here have found that "acting white" is its own reward: responsibility, courtesy, thoughtfulness, industry, integrity are characteristics revered and rewarded in modern civilizations. "Acting white" is really just a display of virtuous character.

Whiskey said...

Neither Jim Crow nor MLK were or are sustainable. Jim Crow demanded constant White violence and suppression of Blacks in order to enforce social order, with Blacks being put in the inferior, third class position. Standing at the back of the Bus. This was unsustainable because most Whites preferred not to bother. Birmingham's fate was sealed the moment most Whites figured it was nicer out in the suburbs. With their own land, a house, detached, and privacy. Whites liked that, and mostly did not like the ugly and messy task of hosing people with firehoses. Or worse.

MLK's solution: fix discrimination against Blacks by enacting it against Whites, is not sustainable either. It merely accelerated the White flight away from any and all actual physical contact with Blacks, idealization or demonization of Blacks, and ever-growing financial, legal, social, and cultural burdens upon Whites. That's not sustainable either.

If you are an ordinary White guy, without connections, what is in it for you, to provide a permanent groveling and fear, abasement, towards any and all Black people, and pay out of your wallet.

Sustainable systems provide positive incentives and rewards for everyone. Hosing chimps off a ladder is not long term sustainable because some will figure out a way to get the bananas without the ladder. Or attack the hose-wielder first. Punishment for violating social norms has to be accepted by humans as serving a greater good for the community, and not merely the sustaining of one in-group elite over every one else. The history of young men out in the bush, desert, wilderness, and countryside banding together in armies is instructive in every society.

Nearly all Whites want neither to be slave or master, and be left alone. Neither to pay nor grovel to Blacks, nor abuse them either in turn.

eh said...

The message I'm getting is that many people feel that only White people should have freedoms and Blacks shouldn't have any.

You never seemed all that bright to me, although I think (or thought) you have (had) something to contribute. But this has to be one of the stupidest things I've read from you. At times you are just absolutely, totally clueless.

SwampThizzle said...

I was reading Evergreen's blog last night and I really do feel sorry for Evergreen. He's done everything right. His parents are still married and they did a good job raising kids that are conscientious citizens and raised them to have a healthy sense of intellectual curiosity. He was raised to believe that being smart (or trying, at least) and following the rules wasn't "acting white" or other such nonsense. But in the end, it doesn't matter. Evergreen is anomalous and he is fully aware of it. He might not like it, but we judge Evergreen based on people that look like (and probably talk like) him because that is what humans and nearly every other creature in the animal kingdom does. After you've encountered thousands of rude, violent, stupid, petty, dishonest, vicious, barbaric blacks, meeting one who mysteriously behaves doesn't mean anything; your opinion of the group, the factually-correct and empirically-validated opinion, has already been formed. I hate to say it, but blacks like Evergreen would be much better off in another country.

Anonymous said...

"I was reading Evergreen's blog last night and I really do feel sorry for Evergreen."

His constant whining has become tiresome. Plus, I'll guarantee you he and his whole family vote black/Democrat, just like the rest.

MuayTyson said...

Mr. Evergreen,

I will pose these questions directly to you.

1. What would you do to fix black pathology?

2. Do you believe the Civil Rights Act is a positive thing for White people?

3. Why as a citizen of the United States with certain rights listed in the Bill of Rights;
a) Allow access to blacks at my place of business?
b)Be forced to interact with blacks if I choose not to?
c) Pay a larger amount of tax to house, feed, educate(or try to), and provide medical to blacks?

4. How do you feel knowing that there are defacto No Go areas in most major cities that white people with almost 100% certainty be murdered, raped, or somehow assaulted?

I'm curious as to how you will answer my questions.

By the way I moved back to Asia one for a better economic situation for myself and my wife and two because I am now a second class citizen in the country of my birth. In case you need to know I am White and my wife is Asian.

Anonymous said...

I can't laugh because if I was living in Birmingham back then, I would be the one being waterhosed.

Well you should have learned to keep your theoretical ass out of trouble then shouldn't you!

Anonymous said...

You take dysgenics among blacks, a permissive, apologetic society that seeks to capitulate and appease this minority, and put it all together, what do you have?

You have exactly what you are seeing now all over the place as far as blacks are concerned. Out of control behavior, disregard for human life at any age, disdain for social structure and the law...the list goes on and on.

Can it be fixed? Yes. Will it be pretty, most likely not. We are reaching a tipping point with a certain segment of the population that no amount of white flight or social segregation will fix.

Something has got to give.

Anonymous said...

One thing that you can count on, almost daily, in super-white libtarded Seattle (only 6.8% black), is that there is sure to be some nigger violence at a bus stop.

Seattle public transportation would be great and almost 100% violence-free, if it wasn't for the groids.

http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/dailyweekly/2011/12/ondrell_harding_suspected_killer_goes_free_arrested_bus_stop_assault.php

"​On July 23, Ondrell Harding allegedly beat 51-year-old Anthony Matthews to death as Matthews' wife and 11-year-old son looked on in horror. Harding was arrested for murder but never charged with the crime. Now he's accused of pummeling a man at a bus stop in another senseless act of violence."

.......

More TNB at the link above.

Ben N Indiana said...

I call it "distory" (distorted history). Without it multiculturalism would fall.

• True or False: White Europeans were responsible for the slave trade to the Americas.

Answer: False

Dr. Louis Henry Gates of the Beer Summit fame writes,

"The sad truth is that without complex business partnerships between African elites and European traders and commercial agents, the slave trade to the New World would have been impossible . . ."

Gates' 2010 article went on to denounce reparations, which is why little has been said about it in recent months.

Here's more from his article:

"While we are all familiar with the role played by the United States and the European colonial powers like Britain, France, Holland, Portugal and Spain, there is very little discussion of the role Africans themselves played. And that role, it turns out, was a considerable one, especially for the slave-trading kingdoms of western and central Africa. These included the Akan of the kingdom of Asante in what is now Ghana, the Fon of Dahomey (now Benin), the Mbundu of Ndongo in modern Angola and the Kongo of today’s Congo, among several others."

"The historians John Thornton and Linda Heywood of Boston University estimate that 90 percent of those shipped to the New World were enslaved by Africans and then sold to European traders. The sad truth is that without complex business partnerships between African elites and European traders and commercial agents, the slave trade to the New World would have been impossible, at least on the scale it occurred." [Emphasis added]

Here the entire article ►

Ben N Indiana said...

"where a large group of teenagers had amassed to confront a teenage girl"

Joke of the day:

Q: How many Negroes does it take to whoop a lone, little teen girl.

A: [You provide the punch line.]

Christian said...

Kind of ironic that both Birmingham in the US and the city it was named after; Birmingham, England are multicultural hell-holes...

Anonymous said...

Detwone beez arrested yo!

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/12/08/BADT1MA2KR.DTL

Arrest in Black Friday shooting outside Walmart

Henry K. Lee, Chronicle Staff Writer

Thursday, December 8, 2011

(12-08) 12:00 PST OAKLAND -- Police arrested a suspect this morning in the Black Friday shooting outside a Walmart store in San Leandro after surrounding a home in East Oakland for several hours, authorities said.

Detwone Watson, 29, came out of the home on the 2700 block of 106th Avenue near MacArthur Boulevard shortly before 11 a.m. and surrendered, said San Leandro police Sgt. Ted Henderson.

Watson allegedly shot Christopher Murillo, 21, of San Lorenzo in the neck outside the store at 15555 Hesperian Blvd. at 1:50 a.m. on Black Friday.

etc. etc. TNB...

Anonymous said...

Groids attack groids at a hospital:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=%2Fc%2Fa%2F2011%2F12%2F06%2FBALI1M90T7.DTL

West Oakland shootout suspect attacked at hospital

Phillip Matier,Andrew Ross, Chronicle Columnist

Wednesday, December 7, 2011

Two days after the West Oakland shootout that left 1-year-old Hiram Lawrence on life support with a bullet to the head and six other people wounded, one of the suspects in the attack unwittingly crossed paths with the tot's family at Children's Hospital Oakland - and got pummeled.

Oakland police said the man - who was arrested on suspicion of assault - is one of the five "persons of interest" in the Nov. 29 firefight at Seventh and Willow streets, in the shadow of the elevated BART tracks.

Three men in hooded sweatshirts opened fire on a group in a parking lot, then fled in a car driven by a fourth man while at least two people in the targeted group fired back.

According to accounts pieced together from both Oakland police and the Alameda County Sheriff's Department, the unfortunate suspect showed up at Children's Hospital about 9:30 p.m. two days after the shootings, either to visit or accompany another child who was sick.

"That's the mother that was driving the car," someone yelled when he happened to walk past Hiram's family in the lobby.

Alameda County sheriff's officials say Hiram's relatives and their friends then attacked him.

Oakland police subsequently booked the man on suspicion of assault and an unspecified outstanding warrant. He has not been booked in connection with the shootings.

Police declined to say why none of the family members and friends who beat him up had been arrested.

Marc B said...

"Remember this: life is just a public relations battle and The Drudge Report now is more powerful then Life and Time were back in the 1960s."

The Summer of 2011 (mahogany mobs) is when mainstream white America could no longer be kept under the spell of cognitive dissonance and post-modern speak. It realized they were under attack by black marauders and the news media were prepared to either under report what occurred or assign blame to whitey for the actions of the violent negro hordes. Mind you, they knew it all along, but starting Memorial Day weekend, it crystallized in their collective consciousness.

Anonymous said...

http://chronicle.augusta.com/sports/college/2011-12-07/white-football-players-suing-over-scholarship-denial?v=1323295171

White football players suing over scholarship denial

By Walter C. Jones
Morris News Service
Wednesday, Dec. 7, 2011

TLANTA — The cash Savannah State’s former football coach Robby Wells got as settlement of his reverse-discrimination lawsuit didn’t end the matter.
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Still pending is a separate lawsuit filed by four players Wells recruited who say they were denied the scholarships he promised because they are white. The foursome filed suit July 12 in Federal District Court in Atlanta. Monday, their attorney asked for an extension until the end of the month to file a response to the school’s Nov. 14 request for a dismissal.

The four claim the majority-black university withdrew Wells’ verbal scholarship offers because their race. The state also has a policy to systematically keep SSU majority black, according to the foursome’s attorney, Matthew Billips of Atlanta.
....

more article at link above

Lily White said...

"Detwone?" That's about as unfortunate a name as I've heard today.

Ben N Indiana said...

Why are blacks whining?

Consider . . .

Let's compare incomes of American and African blacks (2008).

Per capita income of blacks in

America: $18,336
Nigeria: $ 2,308
Zambia: $ 1,500
Zimbabwe: $ 200
Angoloa: $ 8,800
Benin: $ 1,500
Burundi: $ 400
Cameroon: $ 2,300
Chad $ 1,600

sources:
http://goo.gl/Ox5mD
http://siakhenn.tripod.com/capita.html#N

W74 said...

Mr. Evergreen said:
"It boils down to individual behavior and not taking responsibility. People took responsibility back in the old days. Nowadays they don't. The difference between a law-abiding Black people and the thugs is that the thugs don't care about anyone or anything. They live by the minute. They wouldn't listen to the likes of Andrew Young or other civil rights leaders. They won't listen because they never have listened. They won't listen to Bill Cosby's Pound Cake Speech because they would not have listened in the first place. The African-American youths who will listen are the ones who have always taken good advice, who want do to better. The ones who won't listen will insult and make fun of people like me and Bill Cosby and say that we're "acting White"."

I understand what you're saying. I understand because in days past I couldn't figure out why blacks WOULDN'T listen to Bill Cosby, or even Chris Rock, or any of the other "good ones" either. They seemed to make sense and I thought: "if only AA's would listen to these guys instead of the rappers..."

But there's a reason those influences exist, it's because it reflects the culture already in place. In turn it perpetuates the shitty culture. Mr. Evergreen, I understand what you're saying and you may very well be one of the top 5-10% or so that is one of the "good ones"

You may never have been to jail, you may have legitimately gotten into your school. You might actually be frugal and you might actually be able to plan for your own future. Unfortunately blacks who fit that description are FEW and incredibly far between. I have no doubts that you are a functional person IRL.

However, too many are not, and we don't have time to sort you guys out. The functional ones, the "good ones" are the only reason blacks in the US haven't been wiped out already...our sense of justice and fairness prevents us from (to use a very vague analogy here) just sweeping the floor clean. Instead we have been using a toothbrush (jail, courts, welfare, AA policies, free rides) to scrub out the worst stains...but it's getting hard on us.

We've tried our damnedest to clean you little darlings up, but (like mold) we just can't keep trying to scrub and scrub away at YOUR problems. The only way to solve what is encroachingly becoming OUR problem is to rip the whole floor out, good tiles and bad.

In a sense we don't care, nor do we have the time, to figure out who the "good ones" are and save them. We're stocking up, we're getting ready, we're organizing and we're fucking pissed.
-------------------------------
-W74

Anonymous said...

I think it would be hilarious if some scrappers decided to lift those statues.

Anonymous said...

"where a large group of teenagers had amassed to confront a teenage girl"

Joke of the day:

Q: How many Negroes does it take to whoop a lone, little teen girl.

A: It Takes A Nation of Millions?

W74 said...

I understand what Swamp Thizzle was trying to say at 1:29PM, and that's part of my argument as well. We simply don't have the time or patience to sort out who the few good ones are.

Also MuayTyson's questions need answering.

Mr. Evergreen,

Since we've already tried, what will YOU do to lead blacks in America to greater plateaus?

I'm sick and tired of hearing people say "someone (else) should stand up and do something about this and that" when they themselves could just as easily be a leader.

And another question: What will YOU do to improve your community? Too many blacks have fled from other blacks [or in the case of Randallstown, MD which I pointed out about a month ago where blacks are now fleeing the area they originally fled to to the point of marketing houses as part of adjacent towns despite not being able to fudge the zip-code] into White areas instead of sticking around to provide upkeep and maintenance (in the physical and also social sense) to your own neighborhoods.

Is it even possible?

What recompense will you give to the White community for all the damage blacks have done over the last 40,50, 60 years? You say you want reparations, but we would just prefer separation.

I'd be happy even without a formal apology. The last black walking off into the sunset would be enough for me.

Anonymous said...

For normal humans, "freedom" does NOT involve being given carte blanche to disturb the peace by violently ganging up on a peer, 50-on-one.

It does not involve the freedom to riot, loot, rape, pillage, or otherwise destroy the civilized world.

It does not involve the freedom to assault law enforcement officers like a pack of rabid jackals.

It does not involve the freedom to infringe upon the freedom of others by engaging in persistent, violent criminal antics.

If that's what you think "freedom" is, evergreen....then, yeah, I guess we want to "take your freedom away." Idiot.

I mean, REALLY...now you're just being a drama queen.

Anonymous said...

In case you guys haven't seen this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLB-SQbs_ik

Proof positive that Obama & Biden are the two biggest idiots to ever inhabit the White House.

YIH said...

Even in the reddest of red states (white states) Alabama, where Black students at the Historical Black College and University (HBCU) Alabama State in Montgomery recently had a full-on riot during lunch.
Getting this in first.
That was then...

rjp said...

MuayTyson, he will never answer your questions.

evergreen is a don't-give-a-shit like all the rest of them.

Zimri said...

SwampThizzle I was reading Evergreen's blog last night and I really do feel sorry for Evergreen.

I just don't understand why he comes here. Desiree, I understood - she was a moron. Evergreen, by contrast, strikes me as a bright chap by European standards. And yes, I said European.

In short, Evergreen should know better.

If I were him, the only time I'd go against the groupthink here would be when I had an array of linked posts and statistics to prove his/my point. He keeps trying the Jesse Jackson tack, of trying to shame us, and, well... GLWT

YIH said...

Just listening to Dennis Miller (radio stream), his guest was Ted Nugent saying how he so dug black ''people''.
Somewhat understandable due to his music background (think Areosmith/Run DMC) but hearing him praise black ''people'' made me think ''Ya know Teddy? Spend a day walking or driving around ''The Motor City'' THEN tell me how wonderful black ''people'' are''.
IF he survives that is.
Those animals won't know or care who you are and you might not have enough ammo...

Anonymous said...

Southern Indiana

I have read the analogy “hosing chimps off a ladder’ several times on this site to describe social engineering by the DWL.

The conclusion is erroneous. Life and the future are not static. Eventually a new member of the order of chimps will ascend the ladder and take the beatings just to see what is hanging from the ceiling-those things once called bananas.

The old guard will chide the young upstart but the shackles will be broken.

Blacks were willing to be hosed and beaten for their cause-whites retreated to the suburbs. Who won?

The end hasn’t been written yet because life is not static. It may be in the long run cyclical or like a pendulum constantly swinging left-center-right.

Before societal change can take place one or more generations must suffer for the sins of the fathers. Once a generation realizes it has nothing else to lose (freedom anyone) it will stand and fight.

Whites are not there yet and may not get there in my generation. But the way things are cannot be sustained indefinitely.

White Americans do not have a leader to point them to the Promised Land and in the long run-it is not the suburbs (they elected the Great Black Hope).

Eventually we will be pushed into the ocean or the desert.
Google Singapore and read how they solved their crime problem a generation ago. The last statistic I read they had five rapes in 1 year. You can literally walk the streets and alleys at midnight. Where in American outside of rural areas can you do that?

YT said...

These "under privileged minorities" get free showers delivered to their door on the tax-payers dime now? What next? A pizza and fresh lobster delivered in 30 minutes or less paid with EBT cards?

YIH said...

More linky: Is It Too Much To Ask Our Candidates To Read the Newspaper?
That would be you ''Pokemon'' Cain.
Goodbye! And thanks for playing ''So you want to be a President''!

mr_evergreen said...

"1. What would you do to fix black pathology?

2. Do you believe the Civil Rights Act is a positive thing for White people?

3. Why as a citizen of the United States with certain rights listed in the Bill of Rights;
a) Allow access to blacks at my place of business?
b)Be forced to interact with blacks if I choose not to?
c) Pay a larger amount of tax to house, feed, educate(or try to), and provide medical to blacks?

4. How do you feel knowing that there are defacto No Go areas in most major cities that white people with almost 100% certainty be murdered, raped, or somehow assaulted?"

What will I do? I'm doing what I can with what I've got. I can do whatever Bill Cosby is trying to do. That's why I wrote a blog entry called "wtf is acting white'?

The Civil Rights Act was neither a negative or a positive for White people. It was simply outlawing racial discrimination.

The Constitution never said you had to live with Blacks. You can leave and go somewhere else whenever you want. People are free to move and go as they please. If someone is misbehaving, feel free to kick them out of your place of business. If you want to discriminate based on race, that has no place in this nation.

Everyone has to pay taxes in some way shape or form. I have to pay taxes too. My father has to pay them as well. Statistically, there are more White people on welfare than anyone else.

No go areas have existed for a long time. There were areas of New York that the Irish controlled a long time ago and certain people couldn't go there without getting killed. "No go" areas have existed for 200 years or more. It's nothing new. The only thing one can do is be a snitch. I wrote a blog about that too.

Anonymous said...

'SwampThizzle said...

"Rowdy youths." ROFL. I love how "rowdy youths" is now ..beware of activists..'

Swamp...Google:
racist incident at santa monica high
'we have a slave for sale'

The 'activist' who is concerned is a criminal, maybe a felon
[mohamed? someone]

Anonymous said...

Oh, lawds ... dem cops be hosin' dose hoes.

Anonymous said...

If everyone on the alt-right pitched in $1 we could erect a humongous indestructible bronze statue depicting an angry violent negro beating a defenseless white woman and then plant it on private land in a conspicuous place. Who could be against that? It would represent the massive amount of interracial violence targeted at whites by blacks.

eh said...

"where a large group of teenagers had amassed to confront a teenage girl"

Yeah, I mean that tells you more or less all you need to know: they're like a tribe of savages, straight out of Africa. What kind of people behave like that? Especially girls?! A rhetorical question, obviously.

Anonymous said...

Dallas transit agency sees thefts, robberies nearly double in 2011

The troubled economy has emboldened thieves, robbers and other criminals who target Dallas Area Rapid Transit passengers, the agency’s police chief said Thursday.

In the past year, thefts and robberies both nearly doubled compared with the year before, numbers released by DART reveal. Sexual offenses — mostly indecent exposure [NIGGS] — are far less common, but they nearly tripled, from six in 2010 to 17 in 2011.

Most other crimes tracked by DART jumped, too, but not as dramatically.

...

But riding the bus is worrisome, he said.

“They are more crowded, and depending on where you are riding, they are going to stop more often and let on more young people,” he said. “They play their music. They are loud, and they don’t respect anyone.” [NIGGS]

He said a [NIGG] youth followed four of his friends off a bus and attacked them. “You get off the bus, they follow you, thinking you have some kind of money on you,” he said. “It’s uncomfortable.”

Kay Taylor, 50, of Fort Worth says she rides the commuter train to Dallas and light-rail “everywhere and all the time.” But not alone, if she can help it.

“I try to bring someone with me, because they will target you if you are alone,” she said, explaining that young [READ: NIGG] riders in groups often make her feel threatened.

...

"No one wants to be lectured to from the Bible [NIGG PREACHERS], especially when they are just trying to get from one place to another. No one wants to hear loud music or a lot of profanity.”

....

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/local-news/20111208-dallas-transit-agency-sees-thefts-robberies-nearly-double-in-2011.ece

PUBLIC TRANSPO = NIGGS NIGGS NIGGS

Anonymous said...

"The Civil Rights Act was neither a negative or a positive for White people. It was simply outlawing racial discrimination."

Evergreen, you truly don't have a fucking clue what the Civil Rights Act is.

It amazes me that you never bother to research anything, you just repeat inaccurate and incorrect bullshit that some idiot told you.

For a college student, you are incredible intellectually lazy.

mr_evergreen said...

"Evergreen, you truly don't have a fucking clue what the Civil Rights Act is"

If that's how you feel, then tell me, how was it a negative for BOTH Blacks and Whites. If we are all in this nation as citizens, then shouldn't EVERYONE have the same rights as everyone else.

mr_evergreen said...

http://www.ourdocuments.gov/doc.php?flash=true&doc=97&page=transcript

The document of the Civil Rights Act.

Is it really a negative that Black people can vote now? If you see that as a negative, that is hypocrisy.

Anonymous said...

If someone is misbehaving, feel free to kick them out of your place of business. If you want to discriminate based on race

You do realize that these are one and the same thing?

Sheila said...

Evergreen, as a black with pretenses to being educated, learn the correct usage of "either/or and neither/nor." Your "reasoning" (more accurately your lack thereof), clearly demonstrates your race. A blanket statement that "racism has no place in this country" concurrent with asserting Whites can live wherever they wish and do business with whom they wish mixes so many logical fallacies I don't know where to begin. What, precisely, is "racism?" If any one ethnicity's preference for members of its own (in housing, employment, or social activity) is acceptable, surely preventing the same by another is racism. If there exists the NAACP and La Raza, it is clearly "racist" (clearest definition is preferring those of one's own race; blacks like to add the "power and privilege" bit and assert they cannot, by definition, be racist) to criminalize such association by Whites.

Why has a preference for one's own "no place in this country?" Who are you, or any other black, to demand certain policies negatively affecting everyone else and benefiting only your own people? Others have clearly and factually demonstrated the negatives that accrue to Whites when blacks move into (and eventually take over) a neighborhood. We have no "right" to live where we wish if we are forced to accept you and your ilk as neighbors.

I'm not going to go on; your predictable response to logical argument is boilerplate prose, platitudes, whining, vanity, selfishness, strawman, tu quoque, and so forth. Take a class in elementary logic and grammar, and then get back to me. In the meantime, why is everyone else perpetually responding to you? If you are one of the "talented tenth" (which is more like the talented .001), you may be free of most of blacks' social pathologies, but most Whites still don't want their daughters marrying you. You will still describe that as evil racism and assert Whites have no place in this society. In that last, you'd be correct. BRA is bad for White people and all living things (there, I've adapted a 70s poster platitude for your reading and logic level).

mr_evergreen said...

"You do realize that these are one and the same thing?"

Kicking someone out of your shop for misbehavior and kicking someone out because of their race are two different things. Race is something you are born with. Your behavior as a person is your responsibility, your behavior to choose. Your race is not something you can choose. Why not just condemn the behavior? It would get rid of alot of people who don't behave, of all different ethnicities. That "Blacks bad, Whites good" mentality isn't gooing to fly with me.

Anonymous said...

"Is it really a negative that Black people can vote now?"

Ask any whites who live in Detroit or Atlanta or Birmingham.

Anonymous said...

"Race is something you are born with. Your behavior as a person is your responsibility, your behavior to choose."

Behavior and race are inextricably linked, that why black crime is high throughout the globe.

10mm AUTO said...

"The functional ones, the "good ones" are the only reason blacks in the US haven't been wiped out already...our sense of justice and fairness prevents us from (to use a very vague analogy here) just sweeping the floor clean. Instead we have been using a toothbrush (jail, courts, welfare, AA policies, free rides) to scrub out the worst stains...but it's getting hard on us."

EXACTLY. At some point, Whites like to put things to rest. It as thought that some sort of accommodation would allow negroids and Whites to live in at least uncomfortable proximity to one another. Negroids make that impossible, not through just law breaking, but by the most heinous atrocities imaginable. If it was just that negroids stole, or acted out in school and then grew out of it, perhaps a medicine could be developed that would contain their behavior. No people can tolerate the "Jenna 6" (an entire race celebrating and rewarding the beating of a White), the Knoxville Horror, the Mahogany Mobs, The pulling out of their cars and beating of Whites at the Wisconsin State Fair, the endless and continuous flow of rape, murder, assault upon a peaceful people. Negroids are a plague on us and must be excised. Jefferson knew this, Lincoln knew this, and now this generation knows this. Frankly, my feeling is that once we face this, both sides will feel better.

mr_evergreen said...

"Ask any whites who live in Detroit or Atlanta or Birmingham"

Actually, I live around the Atlanta area and alot of Whites I have been around seem happy that I vote. People in my grandparents generation were willing to die so that I can vote. If one part of the population can't vote because of race, then that is a hypocrisy.

mr_evergreen said...

"Behavior and race are inextricably linked, that why black crime is high throughout the globe."

If that were true, then the vast majority of Black people would have killed everyone by now, which has not happened. The vast majority of Blacks would be stealing and robbing from people. The majority of Blacks that I know don't commit crimes.

Anonymous said...

Here in los angeles .......today I
turned on Public Radio...its
celebrating latest events related to copkilla MUMIA
Gawd are some folks stupid!!!!!!!!

in France theres a street named after this slug

mr_evergreen said...

If you were to believe that bad behavior coming from Black people is inherent and genetic, you would also have to believe that Black people CAN'T behave and that it can't be helped. You would have to expect very little from them. As it is, in America, there are consequences for criminal behavior. There are alot of Black people who know and for that reason, do not commit crimes. The UCR and FBI shows that even with the disproportionally high crime rates among African-Americans, the majority of African-Americans in the USA are not committing crimes. It is one part of the Black American population that is doing that. This would show this is much more about culture, lack of responsibility, and nihilistic thought processes.

mr_evergreen said...

"The functional ones, the "good ones" are the only reason blacks in the US haven't been wiped out already...our sense of justice and fairness prevents us from (to use a very vague analogy here) just sweeping the floor clean. Instead we have been using a toothbrush (jail, courts, welfare, AA policies, free rides) to scrub out the worst stains...but it's getting hard on us."


What is so difficult about judging based on individual merit alone?

Anonymous said...

Seattle - one of the USA's whitest and most libtarded "progressive" cities... funny how naive whites who have little to no experience with real blacks are oftentimes "liberal progressives".

Seattle is only 6.8% black, but blacks commit over half of all annual homicides and at least 80% of all violent street crimes in Seattle.
-----------------

Police Investigating Attacks on Women In South Seattle

December 8, 2011

Seattle police detectives are investigating two attacks on women in South Seattle, which may be connected.

In the first attack, police say a masked man grabbed a woman just before 8 pm on December 1 as she was unloading her car near Martin Luther King Jr. Way S and S Webster St. The woman bit the suspect’s hand, and he fled.

Police say a masked man again attacked a woman yesterday, around 10:30 pm on 35th Ave. S. and Holly Park Dr. S. Again, the woman was unloading her car when the man grabbed her. She was able to fight the man off, but he fled before police arrived.

Police say the suspect is a black male, 5’8″ approximately 140 pounds, wearing a black hoodie and a black ski mask.

Sexual assault unit detectives are handling the investigation, because police believe the attacks may have been sexually motivated.

MUH DIK!!!

Anonymous said...

"Actually, I live around the Atlanta area and alot of Whites I have been around seem happy that I vote."

LOLOL Here we go again, the standard Negro Anecdotal Rebuttal, just like clockwork.

Anonymous said...

"If that were true, then the vast majority of Black people would have killed everyone by now"

Based on what? You think whites don't own guns, you fucking moron??

This is one of the dumbest things you've ever written.

Anonymous said...

"you would also have to believe that Black people CAN'T behave and that it can't be helped."

Dogs are not human, but they can be taught not to shit on the floor, you fucking imbecile.

Take this childish argument, and shove it up your ass.

Anonymous said...

"What is so difficult about judging based on individual merit alone?"

The black race IS being judged on its merits.

Detroiter said...

Hello Paul,

I have been following this blog for awhile. Some of the stuff you write may seem over the top to people who haven't been exposed to the realities of black America. But as someone who grew up in Detroit and the surrounding areas, I can tell you, the reality of Detroit is much, much worse than even you have let on.

First of all, the homicide stats are routinely juked to appear less than they actually are, and less than half of those murders are ever solved. Much of the horrific stuff that goes on here is simply ignored by the mainstream media because, well, it is just Detroit . . . nothing to see here.

Also, 47% of the adult population of Detroit is functionally illiterate. I love the crusading white folks who go on about "saving Detroit." As if opening gluten free bakeries and farmer's markets will revitalize a city where half the population can't even read the instructions on their food stamp applications.

Detroit has a troubled racial history that is quite unlike anywhere in the country. I won't deny that economic factors beyond anyone's control contributed to this sorry state - as well as historical and cultural forces that are beyond the control of black people. But the liberal gravy train that has been keeping this city on life support is about to end:

http://www.toledoblade.com/JackLessenberry/2011/12/09/How-close-is-Detroit-to-having-an-emergency-manager.html

The fact that and emergency financial manager needs to step in to fix this mess is a huge embarrassment to the black folks here, because once again, a white guy needs to step in to save the day.

I suggest you take a field trip some day. Most sheltered white liberals can not even imagine such a place exists in our own country. If you can't make it out here, this video should give you an idea what it looks like here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6WKMNmFsxM

Playing Roots Backwards said...

Detroit has a strong lead in the race to the bottom, but other nigger-infested cities will eventually catch up.

How long will it be before our cities become divorced from civilization to such a degree that the dead are left to rot where they fell?

In Detroit that time was several years ago:

http://cofcc.org/2009/01/3rd-world-detroit/

map said...

Frankly, I don't give a damn if a 'groid murders a white liberal, whether in Seattle or some other libertardian city. Frankly, they deserve it. Every Obama-voting white liberal should have his entire neighborhood rapidly integrated with feral blacks. That will learn them.

Midwestern said...

"What is so difficult about judging based on individual merit alone?"

Whaat?? Did he actually say it? Finally. Something that makes sense.

Yes, evergreen. Let us judge based on merit alone. Please tell your black brethren that the great race hustle if over.

No more confiscation of white people's wealth. No more redistribution of wealth programs to benefit blacks. No more racial preferences for blacks and browns. No more special programs and spending for protected minority and gender groups, no more housing vouchers for "the poor", no more free cell phones and housing upgrades to poor blacks based on zip code. No more promoting unqualified blacks over qualified whites.

No more free passes on police and fire tests for blacks.

No more auto forgiveness of black crime. No more special judicial treatment for blacks. No more free healthcare for blacks, no more free food and artificial baby milk for blacks. No more closing the racial learning and financial gaps.

No more equality of outcome for blacks.

Let the market decide, shall we? Let nature decide.

Blacks will still end up on the bottom of the pile. Blacks will starve. You have NO IDEA how much your race has benefitted from white benevolence and infrastructure. We are not equal

Anonymous said...

The "good" blacks all have ghetto relatives.

When AA handouts, free education, and job preferences end, there will be no more good ones left.

Regression to the mean is already happening.

Californian said...

If you are an ordinary White guy, without connections, what is in it for you, to provide a permanent groveling and fear, abasement, towards any and all Black people, and pay out of your wallet.


Except that there are too many ordinary Whites who do enjoy the groveling. Why this is so might make an interesting topic for discussion.

James Burnham, in his epic "Suicide of the West," posits that modern liberals, because they have adopted secularism, lack the usual religious mechanisms for dealing with feelings of guilt -- feelings which are often irrational.

Liberals instead focus these feelings on political issues where, by groveling before selected victim groups, and then forking over large amounts of money, they can expiate their feelings of guilt.

This gets back to liberalism being an essentially irrational ideology. And also why rational arguments do not work with liberals.

mr_evergreen said...

"The black race IS being judged on its merits"

I'm not talking about the race. I'm talking about INDIVIDUALS.

mr_evergreen said...

"Yes, evergreen. Let us judge based on merit alone. Please tell your black brethren that the great race hustle if over"

It's IS, not if.

Of course I am saying merit alone. It should have been about the merit of the individual in the first place. That was the point I was trying to drive home. My point was that if the INDIVIDUAL is judge by his or her merit, then this will get rid of the criminals who exist in the Black community and let the Black people who are productive rise and do well.

Anonymous said...

An argument re white groveling before black, and one which I suspect would fit into Whiskey's worldview, is this: liberals are essentially "Beta" personalities, and below. Betas and sub-Betas (and liberals seem mighty "sub!") naturally look at "Alpha" personalities as their superiors. Hence, they supplicate before them. Liberals therefore treat blacks as worthy of every public policy they have demanded, of having their every pathology rationalized away, of their deification via the mass media, of their being deferred to in every way.

There may also be an element in here of fear. Liberals can not deal with black gangs, black flash mobs, black urban rioting, black guerrilla warfare and warlordism in Africa. So as with many a decadent civilization, they give the barbarians tribute (AA, welfare, food aid, access to their nubile daughters, fill in the blanks) in the hopes that this will keep said barbarians away from their walled cities (gated communities). The tribute might even divert the barbarians into attacking their enemies (e.g., Section 8 moving the underclass into the suburbs to ethnically cleanse white holdouts).

Things is, there is a lot more going on here than the superficial politics. We need to look under the surface. And perhaps find a better strategy to deal with the ongoing collapse of civilization.

YIH said...

mr-evergreen: What is so difficult about judging based on individual merit alone?
A mental exercise for you; there is a football field covered with 999 land mines that can and will explode if you step on one.
BUT you know one of them is a dud (will not explode).
Do you cross the field or avoid it altogether?
For humans it's a trick question, there is someone telling you that you are not allowed to avoid the field because ''dat's raciss''.

YIH said...

mr_evergreen: Actually, I live around the Atlanta area.
And if taxi drivers won't pick you up? To me, that's just being smart (with video that clearly shows what species they are)
Police have released photos from surveillance video inside the cab. Anyone with information is asked to call Atlanta’s tip line at 404-577-84-77. Callers can remain anonymous and still be eligible for a reward.

mr_evergreen said...

"And if taxi drivers won't pick you up? To me, that's just being smart (with video that clearly shows what species they are)"

How does that help ME? What if I need to get around via a taxi? And for what it's worth, I don't dress like a thug.

Zenster said...

It is long past tea for us to take a page out of the Muslim playbook.

Indonesian police routinely break up riots by using water cannons. If the tankers run dry, they do not hesitate to reload them with raw sewage .

Fastidious Muslims have been known to chew their own legs off if needs be to flee such a drenching.

Due to the calamitous uproar of tut-tutting, tsking and general tongue clucking such a practice might receive here in America, I would suggest another useful tactic also employed by Asiatic law enforcement agencies.

Water cannon tank-loads are infused with a powerful and indelible ultra-violet sensitive dye. Those participating in the "festivities" are drenched according to prescription while police cordon off the entire riot zone. As celebrants are herded out of the area of kerfufflement, they are subjected to UV scanning of their skin and apparel.

Those who test positive for the dye are apprehended for questioning or detention along with occasionally being subjected to other [gasp!] less pleasant interrogation procedures.

Not to be outdone, trust that the Israelis should come up with an equally distinctive and unique way of coping with their restive Muslim celebrants. "Skunk technology" enables crowd control authorities to douse party-goers with a concoction made from an ingestible recipe of yeast and baking powder. To wit:

"Skunk" is dispersed as a form of mist, fired from a water cannon, which leaves a terrible odor of rot or sewage on whatever it touches. It does not wash off easily and is said to linger on clothes for up to five years. [emphasis added]

One can only imagine the utter anguish of dirt poor "Palestinians" as their precious few theadbare rags are soused with a noxious and persistent malodorant.

Oh the humanity!

Zenster said...

Baldowl: Recalling Zenster's self-censorship analogy from a couple days ago, the moderator had effectively learned to neither climb the ladder nor to allow anyone else near it.

I genuinely appreciate you taking my comment to heart with such intensity. That you are spreading it around on the internet is just icing on the cake.

This sort of self-censorship must be halted. Apropos to SBPDL, I will venture that a good metric for when this has happened would be when Whites no longer have any qualms about using the word "nigger".

Conversely, an even better scenario would entail Blacks learning to STFU with all their own exclamations of "NIGGER!" and letting the noxious word die of its own accord.

Perish the effing thought that such a thing might ever occur. Until that second alternative comes about, the first shall apply.

mr_evergreen said...

"A mental exercise for you; there is a football field covered with 999 land mines that can and will explode if you step on one.
BUT you know one of them is a dud (will not explode).
Do you cross the field or avoid it altogether?
For humans it's a trick question, there is someone telling you that you are not allowed to avoid the field because ''dat's raciss''."

I know what you're trying to pull and it won't work. Each human being is different. This goes true within the ethnicity and between the ethnicity. Black people are not some monolith. There are many kinds of Black people in the USA. Yes, I know there is a criminal class existing within the Black community, but then you intellectual Black people, working class Blacks, Black people who are business owners(albeit very few). If you are going to create a mental game, create one that is on the same playing field. A land mine is created to do ONE thing and each land mine functions the same way. Human beings don't function the same way. No two Black people function the same way. I have a relative who is doing time in prison. That says nothing about ME and MY family. No one in my family is in prison or screwing up out there. All three of my parents children(me included) are in college and I graduate in 5 months.

You present the argument that has some fallacy. You present 999 land mines. If you look at the statistics regarding crime, you would find this. While there is a disproportionally high amount of crime among Black Americans, there are many MORE, the majority of Blacks who don't commit crimes. There were 10 million crimes committed last year. If half were committed by Blacks, then that would leave about 5 million. With 40 million Blacks in the USA, this means one out of eight Blacks are committing crimes. What about the other 7 Blacks who don't commit crimes. Punish the one person who is a criminal.

Anonymous said...

"How does that help ME? What if I need to get around via a taxi?"

Stop whining, you fucking crybaby.

Anonymous said...

"I know what you're trying to pull and it won't work."

Translation:
"How does that help ME?"

Anonymous said...

"What about the other 7 Blacks who don't commit crimes. Punish the one person who is a criminal."

Remember the rattlesnake analogy...

Most rattlesnakes have never bitten anyone, however it is safest to avoid rattlesnakes altogether.

Similarly, it is safest to avoid negroes altogether.

Zenster said...

Anonymous (December 8, 2011 10:11 AM): And why doesn't what is laughably called the civil rights movement today call these thugs and thugettes on their behavior?

Way too much political and supposedly "moral" capital has been invested in maintaining this ridiculous and unjust imbalance. Why should the race-baiters abandon such an otherwise successful strategy? (See next remark)

And here is another thing to consider: when will this end? Or will incidents such as this one keep on escalating until we reach the point of societal disintegration?

Much like ordinary corruption ― and this is merely a form of ethical or moral corruption ― it will only end when such a practice becomes physically painful.

No amount of reprimand or condemnation will deter such a profitable enterprise. Engaging in this sort of transgression will have to involve injury that is sufficiently agonizing whereby it is no longer fun or beneficial to be part of.

Western low context culture necessitates this. In high context cultures (e.g., Asian or Islamic), humiliation alone is enough to deter such misconduct. Our mobile society and the anonymity afforded by modern urban environments combine to defy whatever traditional disadvantages were once associated with acquiring reduced status through disreputable behavior.

Tar and feathering, public beatdowns, pelting with rotten eggs or fruit will be just the iceberg's tip of what's required to combat these malefactors.

Anonymous said...

Mr. Evergreen,

Racial separation isn't punishing anyone. It's keeping White people safe from you. It's keeping the Black Undertow from swallowing up any more territory. You guys cannot run civilization on a macro level.

Again, take 12% of the country. I assume you will want a continuous territory, coastline for fishing, mineral rights, etc. Just take 12% of the country and then, in your 12% of the country you can do things like punish the one who is guilty.

That's the great thing about racial separation. You can take a whole part of the country and do things the Black way, and everything can be Black and awesome. You'll control all mineral rights, agricultural activity. You can print up as much fiat money as you like and borrow it at whatever interest rate you want. And you can even do all this guilt free because you'll have picked 12% of the country and stopped subjecting everyone else in America to your pathology.

It's a win win.

Zenster said...

mr_evergreen: I can't laugh because if I was living in Birmingham back then, I would be the one being waterhosed. If the Deep South ever reverted back to Jim Crow policies, then I would protest. I wouldn't stand for it.

Yet you are perfectly content to idly sit by and watch the immense injustice of Affirmative Action and minority hiring quotas without making so much as a peep.

WHERE IS YOUR "POUND CAKE SPEECH"?

Where is your organizing in the Black community to halt all of the predatory criminality that is murdering both Blacks and Whites to such a degree that Jim Crow laws will return out of sheer necessity?

You, mr_evergreen, through your acquiescence to reverse discrimination, bear direct responsibility for this degeneration in race relations and are an intolerable hypocrite who is unworthy of further notice at this board.

Zenster said...

SwampThizzle: After you've encountered thousands of rude, violent, stupid, petty, dishonest, vicious, barbaric blacks, meeting one who mysteriously behaves doesn't mean anything; your opinion of the group, the factually-correct and empirically-validated opinion, has already been formed.

As "Balkan Trilogy" author, Olivia Manning, once said:

"THE ONLY PROBLEM WITH STEREOTYPES IS THAT THERE'S USUALLY A REASON FOR THEM."

Zenster said...

Anonymous (December 8, 2011 3:25 PM): Two days after the West Oakland shootout that left 1-year-old Hiram Lawrence on life support with a bullet to the head and six other people wounded, one of the suspects in the attack unwittingly crossed paths with the tot's family at Children's Hospital Oakland - and got pummeled.

A rare TNB payoff. Thank you for the laugh.

Zenster said...

W74: However, too many are not, and we don't have time to sort you guys out. The functional ones, the "good ones" are the only reason blacks in the US haven't been wiped out already...our sense of justice and fairness prevents us from (to use a very vague analogy here) just sweeping the floor clean. Instead we have been using a toothbrush (jail, courts, welfare, AA policies, free rides) to scrub out the worst stains...but it's getting hard on us.

The analogies between Black criminality and Islamic terrorism abound.

mr_evergreen said...

" "THE ONLY PROBLEM WITH STEREOTYPES IS THAT THERE'S USUALLY A REASON FOR THEM." "

But then there are many people who don't live up to that stereotype. How is it logical to judge those particular persons based on a stereotype if they don't live up to the stereotype?

mr_evergreen said...

"Most rattlesnakes have never bitten anyone, however it is safest to avoid rattlesnakes altogether."

Again, these little analogies do not work. I am talking about human beings. Rattlesnakes are animals and are behaving according to their nature. The Black people who are committing crimes and attacking people are exercising bad judgment and poor choices. Any person can choose not to do those things. Rattlesnakes do not have that kind of control. They attack on impulse because they are wild animals. Human beings act on impulse because they don't think before they act. They can think before acting, therefore, not acting on impulse.

Zenster said...

mr_evergreen: Is it really a negative that Black people can vote now?

If the Black vote had even the most remote responsibility ― and it most certainly did ― for electing that incompetent charlatan of a Communist Islamophile Obama then, yes, it really is "a negative that Black people can vote now".

Capiche?

Zenster said...

mr_evergreen: If that were true, then the vast majority of Black people would have killed everyone by now, which has not happened.

It's not for want of trying, you effing idiot!

Zenster said...

mr_evergreen: The majority of Blacks that I know don't commit crimes.

Your constant resort to anecdotal evidence shows you to be the very worst sort of fool imaginable:

One who does not know and does not know that he does not know.

Zenster said...

mr_evergreen: What is so difficult about judging based on individual merit alone?

In this overcrowded and risk-fraught world, there is precious little time left for it anymore.

Especially so when dealing with a race that has made such a determined and Herculean effort to besmirch its own reputation for centuries to come.

mr_evergreen said...

"The analogies between Black criminality and Islamic terrorism abound"

Such as they only exist among the small portion of the population and regular Blacks and Muslims are trying to avoid them too.

One difference: Alot of Muslims immigrate here. Blacks are born and raised here in the USA.

Baldowl said...

If you're stupid enough to play Russian Roulette, you can't complain when you take a bullet in the head, can you?

That's how I approach dealing with Blacks. I don't play that game.

Californian said...


But then there are many people who don't live up to that stereotype. How is it logical to judge those particular persons based on a stereotype if they don't live up to the stereotype?


Consider how the liberal media stereotypes white Southerners, segregationists, white South Africans, etc. It is white people who are being stereotyped and in many parts of the world -- whether Zimbabwe or Detroit -- ethnically cleansed.

Zenster said...

mr_evergreen: How is it logical to judge those particular persons based on a stereotype if they don't live up to the stereotype?

Are you really that incredibly effing stupid?

People "judge those particular persons based on a stereotype" BECAUSE IT PAYS OFF!

Do you remotely comprehend this?

Avoiding all contact with Black people yields such routine and immediately tangible dividends ― with respect to both quality of life and simple physical safety ― that for White people to think otherwise they would have to be clinically deranged.

This is not any preplanned doing of White people. Blacks alone have brought about this state of affairs entirely by themselves in the exact same way that Islam has required the world to become Islamophobic.

Is any of this getting through your thick supraorbital ridge?

Californian said...

Some thoughts on points raised by mr._evergreen:

* Re not being able to get a taxi cab to pick you up, here is the solution: how about if Jesse Jackson and Oprah Winfrey were to start their own taxi company? Seriously. Then then can go into the inner cities and cash in on the market in otherwise neglected taxi cab riders. Perhaps they can even get DWLs, such as Michael Moore, to drive the hacks!

* You ask why blacks are not treated as individuals. Yet it is blacks, or at least their leaders, who treat people collectively. White people, simply because of the "color of their skin," are to be held collectively accountable for "crimes" and "sins" such as slavery and segregation--even when those whites had nothing to do with slavery/segregation, and might even have had ancestors who fought against them.

* Similarly, blacks believe, again simply due to the "color of their skin" that they have a right to AA, minority grants, special history months, the media censoring reports of black criminality, reparations for slavery, and etc., etc., etc.

Question: If a white person today can be punished for a "crime" committed by a white person two centuries ago (e.g., slavery), then why can't a black person today be held responsible for a crime committed by another black person today (e.g., flash mobs)?

Can you answer that?

You can not have it both ways. If blacks (or their leaders, and we have to include many DWLs among them) were to start treating whites as individuals, then you might find whites would do the same towards you.

But it looks as if whites are going to be pushed and pushed and pushed until there is either going to be a backlash (and that will not be pretty by any stretch of the imagination, see the reaction to Reconstruction); or the system disintegrates (not pretty either--look at Detroit or Zimbabwe).

Thing is, it's up to reasonable people like yourself to stand up and be reasonable in your own community, and raise these points. Just be careful of how quickly people will turn on you for shattering their delusions.

Anyway, I suppose I should say "thanks" for sticking with this dialog.

Anonymous said...

"Again, these little analogies do not work."

Yes, they DO work, dipshit.

If that bothers you...

I don't give a fuck.

Zenster said...

mr_evergreen: Such as they only exist among the small portion of the population and regular Blacks and Muslims are trying to avoid them too.

I predict that, one day, you will end up paying with your life for your total inability to comprehend basic logic and reality in general.

Islamic terrorists are not a "tiny minority" of Muslims just as Black criminals are not a small subset of the Black race.

Similarly, Islamic terrorists swim in the sea of so-called "moderate" Muslims in exactly the same manner that Black criminals elude apprehension by submerging into the protective shelter of Black "no-snitch" communities.

Your lack of comprehension would be stunning were it not so utterly predictable.

MuayTyson said...

Mr. Evergreen,

I sincerely appreciate you answering my questions even if your answers were disingenuous tripe.

I'm going to try and lead you on a little logic exercise just to try and see how you think.

1.) If every human must be treated as an individual how would you wage a war? Remember you are actually trying to minimize casualties on your own side. You also realize some of the enemy my have been conscripted.

2.) You are young so I assume you are single I will also assume you are heterosexual. Do you ever go to gay clubs hoping to meet a straight girl? Do you go to fine dining restaurants or Couples retreats? Or do you go to where there are a lot of single young women?

You see by your logic normal human interaction is turned on it's ear.

I hope you never have a child because most responsible parents give their children logical advice. Advice such as stay away from dark allies at night, don't go to places where trouble is likely to occur, and pick your friends wisely.

In your world dark allies pose little threat, place where trouble occurs most likely have little trouble based on a 24/7 time period, and all friends who engage in all types of behaviors are acceptable.

Baldowl said...

MuayTyson, ahem--dark alleys, I think you mean.

MuayTyson said...

No I meant dark allies, such as dark girls named Allison I just forgot to capitalize.
Yeah yeah you got me but the point is still valid.

Anonymous said...

I hope you never have a child because most responsible parents give their children logical advice.

Not if they are black they don't.

Svigor said...

Again, these little analogies do not work.

Nonsense. When you walk into an alley filled with Blacks, it makes sense to turn around and walk back out; more sense than if it was filled with Whites. When you see a Black approach you at night at the ATM, it makes more sense to take a defensive posture than if a White approached you.

There are many situations in life where we don't have any more time to wonder about the special snowflakeness of individuals than we have time to check if that rattlesnake actually has fangs or not.

People who bang this "people are individuals" drum are either liars or fools, or both. Smart people use all the information available to them. When encountering strangers, race is far more salient to us than speculating about individual traits we have no time to assess.

Political Correctness makes you stupid.

Svigor said...

Evergreen isn't an idiot. He really is mounting about as good a defense of his race as is possible.

He's totally dishonest, not stupid.

He sounds stupid because it's impossible to mount an intelligent-sounding defense of Blacks.

Anonymous said...

From Hunter Wallace at Occidental Dissent:

"Jim Crow America was a more humane place to live for the black underclass for three major reasons:

- A society based on Christian values and racial inequality will accept that some blacks are unable to succeed for biological reasons and will respond by tailoring its culture, social institutions, and economy around dealing with that unpleasant fact.

- A society based on race will blunt class divisions. As I explained above, the “talented tenth” was forced by Jim Crow segregation to live among their weaker brethren and steward their communities, which was a far more successful social reform than any progressive anti-poverty program.

- Under Jim Crow, Whites were self confident and explicitly in control of their own society. They didn’t have to flee Southern cities like Birmingham to the surrounding suburbs. The “talented tenth” had no incentive to leave either.

While there was some white-on-black violence under Jim Crow, there was far less violence overall because of these instructive lessons in racial hierarchy, blacks were safer in what is now called the “inner cities,” and there weren’t nearly as many blacks in prison as there are today.

The ugly truth that blacks are unwilling to confront is that the Klan was nowhere near as much of a menace to blacks in Jim Crow America as blacks are likely to be murdered, raped, robbed, or assaulted by feral black criminals in Black Run America."

mr_evergreen said...

"A society based on Christian values and racial inequality will accept that some blacks are unable to succeed for biological reasons and will respond by tailoring its culture, social institutions, and economy around dealing with that unpleasant fact"

Actually, if it was truly based on Christian values, then you would also know that Jesus didn't teach any of that. Jesus teaches that we are all God's children and equal in God's eyes.

Svigor said...

"A society based on Christian values and racial inequality will accept that some blacks are unable to succeed for biological reasons and will respond by tailoring its culture, social institutions, and economy around dealing with that unpleasant fact"

Actually, if it was truly based on Christian values, then you would also know that Jesus didn't teach any of that. Jesus teaches that we are all God's children and equal in God's eyes.


Your response is a non-response. Jesus teaches that "not a jot or tittle" of the old law was obviated by his arrival. And the OT is relentlessly hierarchical and racist. God is clearly a racist.

Jesus also taught "render unto Caesar," which is hardly the only place where a distinction between the Kingdom of Heaven and the world is made plain.

The Good Samaritan is another example. People take it to be an egalitarian message, but that's a heretical attempt to retcon modern leftoid "thought" into the Bible. If you read carefully and look at the context, the Good Samaritan is actually more evidence of the Bible's racism. I think I'll save that for a post at my blog, though.

Then there's the woman who referred to her people as dogs begging at the master's table. It was only after she abased herself ethnically that Jesus relented and healed her child; before that, he rejected her because he'd come to help and save "the sons of Israel," not scummy heathens. I'll have to put that up at my blog, too.