Saturday, December 3, 2011

Screen-shot Request of Madden NFL 2012

Does anyone remember the furor that erupted over the "What if Michael Vick were white?" ESPN the Magazine story? They took a screen-shot from Madden NFL 2012 and changed Vick's race to white (though he looked like a thug still) and wondered if he'd be treated differently based on his skin color.
Now, if someone could just get a screen-shot of a Black Tebow from Madden 2012...(courtesy Zenster)

Could someone with Madden NFL 2012 -- the last video game I played was EA Sports College Football 2010 -- make the Denver Broncos Tim Tebow a Black guy in the game, and take a screen-shot of it? What if Tebow were Black? He'd be pushed incessantly by the same people who tear him down because, as The New York Times sports pundit William Rhoden wrote in his book Third and a Mile, a social movement has long been organized to promote Black quarterbacks (just like the White Men Can Run article, soon we'll be publishing a Black Men Can't Throw piece)

Send it to me at sbpdl1@gmail.com as soon as you can and I'll be sure to send you a copy of the SBPDL book of your choice.

One other request: does anyone recall the awesome viral campaign for 2008's Dark Knight? There was a particularly great campaign called "I Believe in Harvey Dent." If someone could use the picture in that link and turn it into "I Believe in Paul Kersey: Take Back America," I'll also send you over a book. Then, if you could use this picture and have it instead say, SBPDL.COM -- where it reads "Support Gotham" -- and instead of "Vote Harvey Dent"change it to "Fight Back."

Thanks to anyone who can help! New post later today.

61 comments:

Anonymous said...

Don't you mean Peyton Hillis???

Moochelle Obama said...

For those that watch the NFL, keep an eye on the pre andpost game shows, unanimously all of the black commentators can't open their mouths fast enough to slam Tebow, the racismis so blatant they don't even hide it, with the exceptionof Tony Dungy I have never seen a black commentator say one positive wordin regards to Tebow.

Anonymous said...

What if Tim Tebow were black?

He'd be Vince Young w/o the suicide attempt.

I agree with the previous poster; it is weird how the same analysts who loved Vince Young and said 'he just wins games' as he threw for similar numbers but threw like a girl, somehow can't say a good thing about Tebow.

Zenster said...

Paul, please check your email inbox. I've sent you some artwork.

Anonymous said...

Last game I saw Vince Young threw an interception on an ill advised pass on the first drive and his third interception was run back for a touch down.

He doesn't just win games any more seeing as he is with the mis-firing Philadelphia Eagles.

Tim Tebow just wins games because the Broncos defense keeps the scoring against them down and Tim Tebow and the offense control the ball well offensively which means that when they score more than their opponents they just win.

Thrasymachus said...

I've thought about doing guerrilla art a few times- make up some provocative poster, print out a bunch on 8 1/2 x 11 paper, and go around town plastering them on telephone poles. People do this with band flyers, so you wouldn't draw too much attention while you were doing it. The telephone poles in my neighborhood tend to be plastered with band flyers stapled on, but adhesive works on all surfaces, not just wood.

You would need some kind of a shoulder bag to hold the posters and a spray can of adhesive. Spray, slap, walk, spray, slap, walk. I thought about doing it with the Mohammed cartoons, near the mosque, or with an anti-Obama thing, but those are too topical.

Moldbug says left-wing tactics never work for right-wing causes, but something like "I Believe in Paul Kersey" might get people riled up. And it's fun just to rile people up.

Desiree said...

Maybe I missed it but did you ever have a post on Herman Cain's ascension and then the sabotage of his campaign by his fellow (white) Republicans by treading out white women he was supposedly 'harming'?

He just dropped out, as I am sure you know. He's probably such a brainwashed house negro that he thinks the liberals did it. LOL.

I can imagine why you might not have a posting on it because it pretty much disproves (like many other things) your notion of a Black-Run America: a black man--even if he's a conservative yahoo--is still not 'good enough' to have a bit of power for Republicans.

Or maybe, in your twisted, deluded, and paranoid mind, you feel it is whitey 'rising up' against 'dem darkies' in charge?

But I think, SBPDL, you'd have to admit that it was a little obvious, this racist 'swift-boating' of Cain... I mean, a black Democrat vs. a black Republican had to be a pretty frightening prospect for the Ol' Boys of the GOP. That's a 100 percent probability of a black president.

And who do you have now? A white philanderer as the frontrunner next to the Mormon. If affairs or feeling on a shapely thigh even mattered, Newt wouldn't be where he is.

But it's about race. Cain is a nigger. I know you like "The Boondocks" so maybe you remember that episode of black Uncle Ruckus trying to become a racist country singer? Even though Uncle Ruckus was a belligerent anti-black racist, the racist whites still didn't like him. And his idol said, "It's because you're black."

Proof: no such thing as Black Run America.

Look on the bright side, though, SBPDL: even if your notion of BRA was dismantled (yet again), you did prove that many whites in America still hold racist sympathies. Isn't that what you guys say all the time?

By the way, how to do you grapple with the dissonance caused by the evidence of racist whites in power and this idea of BRA you're pushing?

Just wondering... ;-)

Anonymous said...

"a black Democrat vs. a black Republican had to be a pretty frightening prospect for the Ol' Boys of the GOP. That's a 100 percent probability of a black president. "


Ooh, not the "Fear of a Black Planet" horseshit again. Been there, done that. Whites are waking up. No black man will ever be president again.

Cain is the GOPs attempt to pander to blacks. Once again the black man is only a token and easily disposed of. No one is surprised that his marriage already sucked, blacks do not believe in marriage:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/12/02/herman-cain-s-marriage-shaken-by-infidelity-charges.html

He should have left long ago. He is a typical empty black suit.

http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/011380.html

The fear is everything that blacks bring along with them. Filth, squalor, dysfunction, poverty, low IQ, violence, degeneracy, third-world conditions, and blight. Blacks cannot hold up a civilization and whites can.

Blacks are only the willing but useless tools of DWL whites. Blacks have signed up for enslavement. No one cares about the plight of blacks.

DWL puppet masters are the true enemy to true conservatives. This has been true throughout our history. If blacks would just go away, the white ethnic groups would still be fighting each other.

Anonymous said...

Keep wondering, moron.

Anonymous said...

"Thus, after decades of failed efforts to achieve racial equality, the market for black empty suits is booming. We've invested billions, perhaps trillions, to get blacks into high-level positions, and to demand a genuine demonstration of intellectual competence, not just mesmerizing appearances, risks exposing massive wastefulness. What you see is not what you get."

Anonymous said...

Thrasymachus, I really like your activist energy! The best glue one can use for the purpose you describe is canned evaporated milk. Pour it into a one of those pot scrubbers that consist of a sponge attached to the end of a hollow plastic handle that is ordinarily filled with dish soap. Then wipe the milk onto a road sign or concrete utility pole, place your paper on the wet spot, and rub the milk soaked sponge all over the paper. Hell will freeze over before that paper comes unstuck!

Percy Kittens said...

Why, oh why, is Desiree back and allowed to comment?

As for Tim Tebow, he has the cliched "intangibles" that Michael Vick never had and never will: leadership, maturity, intelligence, genuineness, honesty. I lived through the Michael Vick era in Atlanta. I remember that he didn't practice as hard as he could have, or studied as much as he should have, long before he admitted it. I remember him flushing his $100 million dollar contract down the toilet for a petty dog-fighting ring. I remember the embarrassment he caused the city when airport officials suspected him of having marijuana (or residue) in his belongings. I remember when the shame of his sexually transmitted diseases, and his pseudonym, Ron Mexico, was emblazoned all over the news and tabloids.

You won't catch Tebow with a bunch of bastard, illegitimate children (so many that he can't remember their names). Tebow won't be involved in drive-by-shootings or arrested for murder.

Tebow will have to earn his "street cred" with wins. Whether that happens remains to be seen, but I've become a convert to the Cult of Tebow for now and I'll be rooting for him.

Anonymous said...

And Finally the garting one has come back to SBPDL.

Proof: no such thing as Black Run America.

Section 8, affirmative action says you are wrong.

Anonymous said...

Exactly Paul!!! Spot on! If Tebow were black, he would be celebrated for his athleticism instead of being maligned for it.

Zenster said...

Paul, more art in your email inbox.

Anonymous said...

"Maybe I missed it but did you ever have a post..."

Desiree, if you think you might have missed it, go back and read through old posts and try to find it.

Otherwise, post about it yourself, on your own blog, that no one reads.

Stuff Black People Don't Like said...

Zenster,

Are you sending it to SBPDL1@gmail.com? I'm not getting it.

Thanks.

Percy,

Be sure to check Vdare. I wrote a piece about the NFL's bias to white athletes about a month ago that barely mentioned Tim Tebow. I've written the defense of Tebow now that alludes heavily to how Black people treat Vick compared to whites.

Zenster said...

Paul, thank you for the prompt. All items resent. You should have them by the time you read this.

Zenster said...

Stuff Black People Don't Like: I've written the defense of Tebow now that alludes heavily to how Black people treat Vick compared to whites.

That a post-conviction Vick ever set foot on the gridiron again is solid testimony to how Moneyball is all that matters to the NFL.

Equally damning, if not more so, is how someone like Tebow can barely get a break. All of this points towards serious dysfunction in professional sports.

D. Freeman said...

...Have any of you actually watched Tim Tebow play a football game?

If Tim Tebow were black he would be Micheal Bishop, Woodrow Danzler, or Micheal Robinson. If you dont know who those guys are that should tell you something.

The fact that he is white (and christian and a generally great guy it seems) is the only reason he is getting this attention. He moves the meter because he is an exciting player an white. Something that you yourself have ignored the entire time whenever you write about sports is that the majority of sportsfans are white and they would love to find an athlete that could bring the excitement of traditionally black Athleticism in a white package. Enter Tim Tebow, but lets not forget Kieth Van Horn, Jason Williams, Tim Dwight, and im sure plenty of other pretty good/excitingly athletic pro athletes in the last decade or so.

But lets not lie to ourselves. The Denver offense is avg 15 pts a game since he became the starter. They are winning becuase their Defense is playing balls out and their O line/running backs (including Tebow) are busting heads. Not becuase Tebow is a good QB, you could put any running back with a decent arm back there to throw those 2 yard screen passes. They are running a high school offense becuase Tebow is not good at throwing the ball which is what an NFL QB does.

Its so funny to see white people play the race card in this way, i guess i know how you guys feel now when blacks do it in situations where it makes little sense. You guys are completely ignoring the fact that aside from being much faster and more elusive, Mike Vick has one of the best arms in the NFL. That is why people backed him. Meanwhile every other BLACK qb with marginal throwing ability but great athleticism is moved to another position in the NFL. here is a quick list of the top of my head.

Micheal Robinson, Woodrow Danzler, Heines Ward, Antwan Randle El, Brad Smith, Matt Jones(white guy), Josh Cribbs.

These guys arent playing WR because they are black they are playing WR becuase they cant throw. Whats Tebows excuse...

He may be a good qb one day but right now...

Anonymous said...

"The fact that he is white (and christian and a generally great guy it seems) is the only reason he is getting this attention."

Actually, it's because he's WINNING, which you apparently didn't notice, you disingenuous piece of shit.

Zenster said...

D. Freeman: You guys are completely ignoring the fact that aside from being much faster and more elusive, Mike Vick has one of the best arms in the NFL. That is why people backed him.

You seem to be ignoring how modern sports stars are de facto role models for American youth.

Vick's greed (gambling), and inhumanity (dog fighting), make him unfit for the role that he has been given. Regardless of whether he has rehabilitated himself, Vick was originally capable of exceptionally bad judgement in how his ten year ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY MILLION DOLLAR contract evidently was not sufficient incentive to keep him on the straight and narrow.

At thirteen millions dollars per year, that is a full time 40 hour per week wage of $6,250.00 per hour.

In reality, that number is quite a lot higher seeing as how there are only about 11 minutes of active play in the average football game.

With approximately 20 games per season for the average NFL team, that sees Vick earning some $3,545,000 per hour of active play.

Yet, earning almost ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS EVERY SINGLE SECOND for his on-field endeavors just wasn't enough to persuade him that he should keep his goddamn snout clean.

What message does it sent to American youth when a morally corrupt person like Vick is clamored after for a star position despite his FELONY CONVICTION and involvement in extreme animal cruelty?

Anonymous said...

Ouch such hostility in the face of truth what are you 15? Understand DENVER is winning not Tim Tebow. He a has made a few clutch plays but if any team scores more than 20 pts what happens. They are winning despite Tebow much like the ravens in 2001 with Trent folder or the 2006 Bears. Its not a race issue people its a talent issue. If anything race works in his favor!

Svigor said...

Moldbug says left-wing tactics never work for right-wing causes, but something like "I Believe in Paul Kersey" might get people riled up. And it's fun just to rile people up.

Who gives a shit what Moldbug says?

I've been thinking for a long time that we need to promote our own brand of leftism. National Liberalism, maybe. All the great gov't handout flavor without the funky anti-white aftertaste, or all those NAM calories.

Svigor said...

I have to agree with Desiree in that I've never found the "BRA" meme compelling. It's kinda funny and has its merits, but accuracy is not among them.

Percy Kittens said...

Listening to Colin Cowherd on the way home Friday, he was eviscerating Michael Vick for the Thursday night loss to the Seahawks, not because Vick could not play, but apparently because Vick was persona non grata over on the sideline and provided zero leadership. Hmmm...where have I seen that before? Oh yeah, in Atlanta.

Back to Tebow...I don't consider his situation to be as much, if any, of a race issue as some of the others around here, particularly Paul. Quite frankly, Tebow is not as good of a quarterback, right now, as Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, or Aaron Rogers. We get that. None of Tebow's most ardent fans would suggest he is. However, Tebow has undoubtedly brought something to the Broncos that they didn't have with Kyle Orton, in addition to the superb play of Denver's defense. Clearly what Denver's defense wasn't able to supply wasn't being supplied by Kyle Orton either.

The Bronco's are 5-1 under Tebow. It is what it is. Take Tebow's play making abilities, combine it with his leadership and character, and add the Denver defense and you've got an interesting team to watch and root for. But Tebow is *different* than just about every other player out there because he is genuinely likable. I feel like I know him. I'd want my daughter to marry him. His personality and his drive and his ambition and his talent draws people to Tebow. Tim stands out even among other quarterbacks that I like and respect, such as Matt Ryan and Drew Brees.

The bottom line is that I'd rather have a player like Tebow that isn't quite as talented as Cam Newton, but makes plays, is likable, and shows some humility (and doesn't raise his arms in the air urging the crowd on to shower him with more praise, or gestures towards his shirt like he's opening it up to turn into Superman like Cam Newton does).

If people want to talk about racism, let's talk about how a large segment of the Atlanta Falcon fan base has still been unable to move on past Mike Vick. They routinely bash Matt Ryan on the message boards, criticize Arthur Blank for letting Michael Vick go (as if Vick was an innocent bystander in the whole mess), come late to every home game (ever seen a Falcon's home game that was completely full at the start?) and then leave early, wear their Vick jerseys into the Dome even though Ryan is the quarterback...even Doug and Ryan Stewart (of The 2 Live Stews fame) have admitted that a large part of Atlanta's black fan base have been unable to let go of Michael Vick because of racial loyalty. Damn! You'd have thought Vick was some sort of martyr or something.

Anonymous said...

"Ouch such hostility in the face of truth what are you 15?"

Stop whining please.

Yes I'm 15, and I'm sorry for hurting your feelings by assessing you as a disingenuous piece of shit.

D. Freeman said...

@zenster


As is typical of the nature of "discussion" on this site you completely straw manned my argument and changed the subject. Of course im ignoring Vicks absurd role as a a Role model in this country because that isnt what were talking about. Were talking about this fallacy Paul keeps putting out there that there is some type of bias in the NFL and sports in general that is holding white players back. Never did I say that Vick did not deserve what he got in terms of losing his money, going to jail etc. Im saying that supporting Vick as a player makes much more sense than supporting Tebow because Tebow cannot play QB in the NFL.

Your whole Diatribe about Vick was trying to sway the subject away from Paul's continual nonsensical rants about "reverse" racism in sports. Much like his equally stupid article on Jordy Nelson, he is ignoring any fact that doesnt serve to promote this idea that white players are being held back by OTHER WHITE PEOPLE. Which anyone with a brain, including clearly some of the more thoughtful readers of this site, sees as pure nonsense.

Tebow seems like an amazing guy and a great citizen who probably "GASP" wouldnt be all that comfortable knowing that some of his biggest fans were white supremacists...

But he is a good football player but not a good QB and as soon as a team (DA BEARSSSSS) puts up more than 20 points on them like Detroit did a few weeks ago this story will be over and the Broncos will be drafting Robert Griffith the 3rd just for the sake of irony.

Kersey, get off the sports thing its not a good route for you... well, most of your stuff isnt a good route, but at least there is SOME logic to other things I have seen here. The sports angle is just dumb.


PS you cant edit players like that on Madden now a days. You would have to "create" Tebow from scratch.

m said...

D. Freeman, the sports angle is critical to discussing race in America.

Seeing as how blacks only make a footprint in sports or entertainment...

Or do you actually believe blackface Hollywood fantasies?

Zenster said...

D. Freeman: Of course im [sic] ignoring Vicks [sic] absurd role as a a [sic] Role model in this country because that isnt [sic] what were [sic] talking about.

Oh yes it is and you must be totally opaque in order to deny it.

Why else does Paul Kersey write at such length about the distorted role of semi-literate, Black, predatory criminal mesomorphs in collegiate football?

Either answer the question or accept the fact that you are intellectually incompetent.

Were [sic] talking about this fallacy Paul keeps putting out there that there is some type of bias in the NFL and sports in general that is holding white players back.

Yes we are and there has been more than adequate proof of this practice.

Im [sic] saying that supporting Vick as a player makes much more sense than supporting Tebow because Tebow cannot play QB in the NFL.

Save for the niggling little detail that Vick should feel like a whore in church each time he sets foot on the gridiron. A concept that your brain is, quite clearly, wholly uncontaminated by.

Your whole Diatribe about Vick was trying to sway the subject away from Paul's continual nonsensical rants about "reverse" racism in sports.

Wow! A sentence without one easily detected grammatical error. Congratulations!

My whole "Diatribe" was meant to condemn the entirely unacceptable elevation of a lowlife thug like Vick's to an even slightly respectable position of public respect. Evidently, that moral and ethical aspect of my "Diatribe" escaped you intact.

Much like his equally stupid article on Jordy Nelson, he is ignoring any fact that doesnt [sic] serve to promote this idea that white players are being held back by OTHER WHITE PEOPLE.

Again, I am unable to envy your last lonely neuron's random misfirings. Much of what Paul writes about with respect to BRA's predominance in collegiate and professional sports is directly related to "white players are being held back by OTHER WHITE PEOPLE."

For you not to realize this obvious and well-established fact requires an IQ that is well below room temperature (in Celcius), and rapidly approaching that of shoe-sized proportions.

Anonymous said...

"Of course im ignoring Vicks absurd role as a a Role model in this country"

Correction:
Negro Role Model.

Anonymous White Male said...

Hey, Diarrhea, I think your limited intellectual capacity caused you to miss the fact that it was the DWL’s in the media that torpedoed Herman Can’t, and these are the same scum that love to inflict your race on other White people. Whites other than themselves, of course. You see, Cain’s candidacy violated the cardinal liberal tenet that you negroes can’t succeed without Whitey there to do all your work for you, that all black spokespersons must complain about how the White Man has kept you people down, and how unlimited trillions of dollars needs to continually be spent to hide the fact that your people are the dregs and a net liability for every country you are in. As far as the MSM was concerned, Cain was a self-hating, Uncle Tom. want-to-be coon and was not representative of black people. I have no doubt that being a black male, he was incapable of keeping his dick in his pants, but I do find it interesting how this was timed and some of the questionable motives of the women making the accusations. Hey, what do you expect from lying sluts?

Now, why Can’t was a conservative darling is a bit of a mystery to me. Here was an affirmative action Federal Reserve banker. This alone should have disqualified him. But, he also was an unqualified, affirmative action CEO and drove Godfather’s Pizza from 5th to 11th. Not exactly a success story for anyone. Other than a negro. I suspect his radio program pandered to White conservatives and made them comfortable with an English speaking, conservative, well-mannered black. Some probably even thought he could neutralize the race card that the current porch monkey in the White House is able to use, even though Obongo is less black than Cain. But, for you to say that Whites sabotaged him is a laugh. They were the only ones that supported this quota filler.
Personally, I never want to see another one of you people run for president. But I also never want to see any of you in this country, either.

D. Freeman said...

@ Zenester, thank you for pointing out my missing apostrophes. It’s a stylistic tactic I developed to subliminally express my essential uncaring tone toward “discussions” with people who would rather attack superfluous elements of an argument then attempt to take on the core issue. I also noticed that you do the same with your massive amounts or run on sentences, sentence fragments, and misuse of the dash(-). Sadly as I am drafting this in word as opposed to the blogspot interface I will not be able to continue avoiding missing my apostrophes as the pc does it for me. Fortunately, it won’t autocorrect all of your fragments etc so you will still be able to continue to butcher grammar on your own end. OR you can drop that pathetic attempt to undermine my intelligence and stick to proving a point.


As for Vick/Tebow. You have no argument from me there. I live in Atlanta I saw the nonsense from both sides. Vick is not a good guy, wasn’t then, isn’t now, but he is still a better QB than Tebow. And, yes it is a shame that he had so many “fans” although I would venture to say that his position as a “role model” is highly overblown. Other than that im sorry I don’t really know what we are discussing here. Vick is an idiot; Tebow is overrated. If talent were the only indicator for NFL eligibility only one would be in the league, if character were the only indicator… But I really don’t want to talk about Mike Vick, it’s a dead issue, and its not his fault he is a role model. I must really be stupid because I really don’t know what you are trying to prove aside from the obvious. Yes Vick is a dirtbag and got what he deserved but that still doesn’t make Tim Tebow a more accurate passer. And if were talking about real merit, you know that thing that is supposedly undermined in this world ran by black people, he would be a fullback like Michael Robinson. Also, (as usual) you completely ignored the fact that Tebow’s race is the main reason he’s getting the chance he is getting.

D. Freeman said...

Furthermore aside from the circular logic you just presented, I have seen little proof that white players are being held back in any way in the NFL by anything other than their inferior athletic ability. Lets clear the equal athletic ability myth up now.
Straight line speed is of little real use in the NFL. This is why some of the best NFL players at skill positions have relatively avg 40 times. So Jordy and whoever else’s ability to run a 4.5 forty (which is “good enough” at best in the NFL at WR/CB/RB etc) is still hindered by the fact that he does not have hip flexibility that most NFL level receivers/CBs etc have. This is evidenced by the fact that although there are a few white NFL WRs and Safeties, there are no cornerbacks, and there hasn’t been any since Jason Sehorn and few before him. Hip flexibility is much stronger in negroid gene pools. Tim Dwight had it, maybe Wes Welker to a lesser extent, but when the pads go on the coaches and GMS (whose only loyalty is to winning) see the difference, not some grand anti white agenda.
Furthermore, the look of surprise and scrutiny that a white skill position player gets in the NFL is the same the one I get when I walk in to a college classroom, the same one that most blacks get whenever they have to perform in America outside of a playing field or concert stage. Cry me a river Jordy it’s not that hard if you know what you’re doing. But if there is any place in the world were the cream truly rises to the top based off of pure ability it is sports, which is why Jordy took Donald Driver’s spot. There are plenty of white lineman, pocket passers, tight ends, linebackers etc. Exactly how does that fit into your argument, are those players ok for whites because they aren’t exciting or big star. is Tom Brady not a star? Seems more like the discrimination is against unathletic people in my opinion. (GOD this is such a stupid argument I hate myself for even bothering with this.)
Well that’s it, I guess I am “intellectually incompetent” because I really don’t know what the hell your point is on the ACTUAL SUBJECT AT HAND (sorry not yelling, I don’t know how to bold). But if you want to straw man this back into Mike Vick, a subject we essentially agree upon, insult my intelligence, or spell check my work again feel free. It’s not as if you will actually address my points made. Sometimes I wish I could get an outside moderator to get you guys to keep in line on an actual debate, but you would probably call him a DWL for asking you to stay on the subject and not use logical fallacies.

Zenster said...

D. Freeman: Zenester [Sic], thank you for pointing out my missing apostrophes.

You're welcome but it's "Zenster". Be that as it may, please don't let the dire challenge of elementary spelling skills interfere with you spewing your typical brand of wild-@ss taurine fecal matter.

It’s a stylistic tactic I developed to subliminally express my essential uncaring tone toward “discussions” with people who would rather attack superfluous elements of an argument then [Sic] attempt to take on the core issue.

And what "core issue" would that be, aside from hard "core" illiteracy?

I also noticed that you do the same with your massive amounts or [Sic] run on sentences, sentence fragments, and misuse of the dash(-) [Sic].

If only you could express your scattershot criticism without managing to violate even the English language’s most basic rules.

Fortunately, it won’t autocorrect all of your fragments etc [Sic] so you will still be able to continue to butcher grammar on your own end.

That would be the same "grammar" that an Oxford-educated, polyglot doctorate boss of mine praised as I edited an outright contradiction of his from an article we were about to publish in the Journal of Vacuum Science and Technology (JVST). Said entry dealing with high rate deposition of near-diamond quality films that were useful to both high intensity magnetostrictive disk head technology and wing fabrication of the B-2 stealth bomber.

OR you can drop that pathetic attempt to undermine my intelligence and stick to proving a point.

Too late.

[to be continued]

Zenster said...

Vick is not a good guy, wasn’t then, isn’t now, but he is still a better QB than Tebow.

Despite any temptation to agree with you, Vick will never, in his lifetime, reach high enough to touch Tebow's shoe tops.

And, yes it is a shame that he had so many “fans” although I would venture to say that his position as a “role model” is highly overblown.

Please explain that to all of the maimed animals that will follow in Vick's wake.

I live in Atlanta…

That has been apparent for some time now but thank you for that BGO (Blinding Glimpse of the Obvious).

Other than that im [Sic] sorry I don’t really know what we are discussing here.

All of which has been apparent for some time now but please don't let that interfere with your unflagging efforts to misinform the readers of SBPDL.

Vick is an idiot; Tebow is overrated.

Please refrain from distributing multiple attributes that belong to a single individual. Emkay?

I must really be stupid because I really don’t know what you are trying to prove aside from the obvious.

Asked and answered.

Yes Vick is a dirtbag and got what he deserved but that still doesn’t make Tim Tebow a more accurate passer.

You are, perhaps, the only one disputing the former or arguing the latter case.

Also, (as usual) you completely ignored the fact that Tebow’s race is the main reason he’s getting the chance he is getting.

Of course, merit has nothing to do with it. Just ask all of the illegitimately promoted Black people in this world.

… I have seen little proof that white players are being held back in any way in the NFL by anything other than their inferior athletic ability.

Thereby obviating much of Paul Kersey’s work in a single stroke. Magnifique!

Lets clear the equal athletic ability myth up now.

No … let’s not and say we did. I have no interest in such minutiae.

Furthermore, the look of surprise and scrutiny that a white skill position player gets in the NFL is the same the one I get when I walk in to a college classroom, the same one that most blacks get whenever they have to perform in America outside of a playing field or concert stage.

Tu quoque.

GOD this is such a stupid argument I hate myself for even bothering with this.

Welcome (or not), to the club.

Well that’s it, I guess I am “intellectually incompetent” because I really don’t know what the hell your point is on the ACTUAL SUBJECT AT HAND (sorry not yelling, I don’t know how to bold).

Learning basic HTML is just too much, eh? Try bracketing bolded passages with < b > and < /b > (spaces removed), tags if that doesn’t fry too many of your already overworked synapses.

It’s not as if you will actually address my points made.

Perish forbid … heaven the thought!

Sometimes I wish I could get an outside moderator to get you guys to keep in line on an actual debate, but you would probably call him a DWL for asking you to stay on the subject and not use logical fallacies.

Pot → kettle → Black

Ron Mexico said...

LOL @ Vick having one of the best arms in the NFL.

Anonymous said...

Since Mr. Freeman states that blacks are superior athletes, is he also willing to say that whites on average are better at math, science, and overall intelligence? Will Mr. Freeman acknowledge that blacks are far more prone to violent crime?

Anonymous said...

at d. freeman: you are basically making two points.
One, you claim all the media attention on Tebow is because white people want to cheer a white guy who acts black. Really? White quarterbacks like Brady, Rodgers and Manning do perfectly fine not acting black. And if Tebow were black, we would not be having this discussion. Why?
Point two. You claim white people are physically inferior to blacks. Really? We don't have the hip swivel gene? How racist is that!? Do you even realize what a black supremacist racist you are?
Or shall we quit the name-calling and agree that black people can move thier hips but white people can move the world with thier minds?

D. Freeman said...

@ Zenster

Sigh

Well your hostility has worked as im pretty much moving on after this one if all you are going to do is dodge the subject and lobby insults. There is no purpose in discussing anything with an asshole you just end up covered in their crap.

I just want to point out that you didnt in any way address my points, you simply said they were wrong because you are right. That is in no way a logical process of argument but I know I am asking too much when i expect logic from you and many (not all) others on this site.

No where is your intellectual dishonesty and complete lack of a basis more clear than your complete and admitted omission of addressing my statement on the nonsense of white athletic discrimination. "perish forbid" indeed. I tell you this you are an Amazing internet troll to have gotten this much effort out of my. Hats off to you sir.


You know what is really sad is that if you or Kersey had more in mind than selling books and increasing your daily hits you all could actually help do something about all of these problems. But its easier to be an internet celebrity and sell pamphlets on Amazon. The delusional comments proclaiming the coming change and the looming race wars etc are all nice to talk about but easier to do when behind a keyboard, especially when you are delusional yourself. Eventually you will realize that most people who are not unhappy self loathing troglodytes will have enough common sense/basic human decency to not be bothered by these sites except for a chuckle or two and it will go the way of most extreme social movements. Nowhere. But by them you and Kersey would have made a little money, got a little notoriety, a few book tours or conferences on the white nationalist circuit etc. Which in the end seems like its a win for everyone.

@anon-7:44

Ive been through that already and pretty much admitted that to be a logical reality. What i haven't figured out is how all of those superior intellectual genes that whites own made them so prone to massive acts of genocide against so many groups of people over the course of history, especially since the Asians who are/were advanced beyond whites were relatively peaceful. Id say cultural elements, but that seems to be taboo here as it severely hurts the "genetic race realist" principles.

It would be nice if someone could address that for once; I am very curios about the possible explanations. But if Zenster is the only one here i doubt id get much more than insults and misdirection.

Anonymous White Male said...

There seems to be a universally accepted premise that blacks are superior athletes to Whites. Please answer this for me: How many negroes have you seen in the Winter Olympics? How many black swimmers are there? Any great black hockey players? Great black weight lifters? In track, do they dominate non-running events? If you are honest, you will recognize that it is primarily in sports that involve the legs to some degree that blacks excel. In other words, runnin’ and jumpin’. That and makin’ noise are the only 3 things that blacks are gifted at. Well, that and crime, spreading sexually transmitted diseases, creating unlivable societies, etc. But, I digress. Get a list of sports and see in which ones blacks participate in a greater proportion than their unfortunately large 12%. They also happen to be the high profile sports, like football, basketball, baseball, but in almost every other “sport” Whites dominate. There are some that the Chinese excel in, like diving or gymnastics, but their selection and training are their job and they are prepared from a young age to do this one thing. The question becomes NOT why are Whites dominate at the majority of sports, but why does the media promote the view that blacks are? And we know the answer to that, don’t we?

D. Freeman said...

Anon 8:22

You kinda missed my point

1- Tebow does not "act black," he plays the game with superior athleticism. Superior athleticism is what sportsfans like seeing. The monster dunk, the big hit, the sky high catch in the endzone, the awesome kick off return etc. Tebow is one of very few white athletes who offers that. PLUS he is an good looking guy, a devout christian and an seemingly excellent person. All of those things work in his favor in terms of his fanfare and popularity. What he cannot do is throw the ball at the NFL level (yet?). Manning, Brees, Brady etc can which is why they deserve the attention they get. If Tebow learns to do what they do and keeps what he does, he might be one of the biggest sports stars since Jordan.

2- If he were black we would not have this conversation because he would not have had the chance to play QB in the NFL. There have been countless black players in the NFL with Tebows talent and overall intangibles but have not had the chance to play QB. If he were black he would be a fullback or TE, or at best a backup who maybe gets to play years down the line once he develops a real NFL throwing ability, i have already named several cases where this has occurred. And dont tell me he is winning becuase his role in their wins is only recognizable on a few clutch plays per game. His defense and running backs and coaches are winning despite his limits as a QB.

3- You dont have to be a racist to recognize that most Blacks are physically genetically superior in pretty much every way. Just like i cant call you a racist for showing that most whites have higher IQs. that is the basis for much of this site it has bee validated by the same geneticists that much of this craziness hinges upon. And you are right, White people do move the world with their minds, but also their guns, diseases, whips, chains, crosses and so on. Im not a black supremacist im just trying (futilely) to seek a better understanding of the philosophy at work here. I dont believe God designed anyone with superiority in mind, but nature and culture have a different say in things.

Stuff Black People Don't Like said...

Black Athletic Supremacy is a Social Construct.

Entine is wrong (well, West Africans do excel at the 100 meter, and East Africans do excel at long distance), and in the coming weeks we'll publish a piece that documents how the Black style of play in both basketball and football has won out and come to dominate professional sports -- largely because once Blacks gain a numerical majority it becomes impossible to go back from that (look at plans to cut Federal government agency positions where Blacks are disproportionately employed-- it can't happen because it would be racist).

D. Freeman said...

@anon white male

Well this begs the question of how do you define athletic.

I think most would define it as natural physical abilities. I would argue that you dont have to be a great athlete to play a sport, but that certain sports (basketball football) will always be dominated by the best athletes.

Swimming, weightlifting, hockey, are based more on certain honed skills and dedicated lifestyles than pure athleticism. I doubt if you took say Adrian Peterson and put him in a swimming pool that he would even come close to winning. But i bet if you put him and say Micheal Phelps through a decathlon with a bit of coaching that Peterson would come out on top. Why because he is stronger and faster.

@SBPDL

You may be correct that the "black" style of play has made it more difficult for white athletes to compete. But this is based on demand not on some liberal scheme. For example, the dunk was illegal for many years in college basketball becuase Texas Western (the first team to start black players) used their superior "athletes" to run the ball up and down the court dunking on people. This changed the game and made many of the other elements of passing, ball control, etc irrelevant. But it made the game more entertaining so they brought it back because that was what people wanted to see.

Even Rushton recognizes the physical genetic superiority of Negroid people on pretty much every level. You cant use his theories to support one claim and then reject the exact same ones to support another.

What you are asking is that America shifts its naturally demanded principles on entertaining sports in order to incorporate white athletes. Basically you want us to watch hockey...

isnt that just as bad as all of the Affirmative action "BRA" nonsense you speak against African Americans.

However this is a very inconvenient truth and I would hypothesize that many of your readers know this which is why they want you to let it go and get back to a subject that actually makes sense.

Anonymous said...

As expected, instead of admitting black inferiority in intelligence and proclivity to crime, Mr. Freeman wails about how mean those evil white people are. It never changes.

Anonymous White Male said...

You can always tell when you read a negro on line. They will not address the issues that show their race to be the virus that they are and they are incapable of being honest. Freeman is a perfect example of this. My post pointed out that it is a culturally accepted given that blacks are superior “athletes” when, in fact, this is not true. As I pointed out, with the exception of “runnin’ and jumpin’ sports, blacks are as lacking in other sporting areas as they are in the field of Astrophysics. Let’s dissect the negro’s response:

“Well this begs the question of how do you define athletic.

I think most would define it as natural physical abilities.”

Oh, really? Is that what you think, negro? Or is it just a ruse to avoid addressing something that your race and DWL’s know to be true, but an inconvenient truth? Here is how one online dictionary defines it:

athletic   adjective
1. physically active and strong; good at athletics or sports: an athletic child.
2. of, like, or befitting an athlete.
3. of or pertaining to athletes; involving the use of physical skills or capabilities, as strength, agility, or stamina: athletic sports; athletic training.
4. for athletics: an athletic field.
5. Psychology . (of a physical type) having a sturdy build or well-proportioned body structure. Compare asthenic def. 2 , pyknic def. 1 .

Well, now we have defined it. So, why would you have said that YOU think most would define it as natural physical abilities? Why is it so necessary for your race to lie to the degree that you do? For anyone to have made such an absurd statement as declaring what MOST people would believe is either an ignorant attempt to define the issue at hand to your benefit or a deliberate lie. And why is it in your interest to change the subject and avoid addressing the points I made?

You then assign athleticism to football and basketball, but denigrate other sports. Somehow, football and basketball, which are sports that heavily involve runnin’ and jumpin’, involve “athleticism” and will always be dominated by the best “athletes”, but swimming, weightlifting, and hockey don’t? Again, are you just an idiot or are you lying? Rhetorical question – the answer is: BOTH. You are assigning genetic components to athleticism, but only to football and basketball. I assure you, racial differences in swimming are as genetic, or as you put it, dominated by the best athletes, as West African’s times in the 100-meter dash. Weightlifting as well. Hockey may involve ice skates, but the balance necessary for this is another genetic factor. And what about gymnastics? This requires an athletic skill and training that most people will never achieve. But, why don’t blacks dominate this if they are superior athletes? Why don’t gymnastics coaches go out and recruit little blacks from the ghetto to have access to their superior “athleticism”?

You laughingly imply that swimming, weightlifting, and hockey “are based more on certain honed skills and dedicated lifestyles.” Your ignorance or dishonesty is there for all to see. It is easy to point out that certain body types are more gifted in swimming or weightlifting, just like certain lower body types are more gifted in runnin’ and jumpin’. What you seem to have missed is that it is the level of the Olympic or professional athlete that honed skills and dedicated lifestyles enter in. And this is just as true in football and basketball as swimming and weightlifting. No, there are physical differences between the races, as different sports show unequivocally. There are also mental and emotional differences and they are just as genetic, whether you like it or not.

Anonymous White Male said...

Freeman finishes his screed with a hypothetical comparison between Michael Phelps and some negro. Your assumption is that the bigger and stronger would win. Of course, this will never be tested. But, decathletes have a certain phenotype that is remarkably consistent. And since it involves certain “honed skills and dedicated lifestyles”, you have implied that athleticism wouldn’t enter in. If blacks were superior “athletes”, blacks would dominate this event. But, they don’t. And the “blackish” winners over the past 40 years have been of mixed heritage, like Haley Thompson, Dan O’Brien, and Bryan Clay. So, as I rightly pointed out, and you avoided like the plague, black athletes excel at “runnin’ and jumpin’” sports. And you have gone out of your way to avoid admitting that fact.

Now, try again. See if you can answer the issues I raised in my original post.

“Please answer this for me: How many negroes have you seen in the Winter Olympics? How many black swimmers are there? Any great black hockey players? Great black weight lifters? In track, do they dominate non-running events? If you are honest, you will recognize that it is primarily in sports that involve the legs to some degree that blacks excel. In other words, runnin’ and jumpin’.”

You claiming that sports that blacks don’t dominate are somehow not sports is not an acceptable response. Do blacks dominate sports that don’t involve runnin’ and jumpin’? Of course not. Does that make Whites superior athletes to blacks since they are dominate in so many more sports? We won’t even consider things like bowling, darts, pool, and thousands of other pastimes to be sports, but if we did, your people would dominate even fewer events.

“The question becomes NOT why are Whites dominate at the majority of sports, but why does the media promote the view that blacks are? And we know the answer to that, don’t we?”

Tell us why this is, freeman. Whites dominate the vast majority of sports. By far. There are sports like tennis where occasionally a black male is competitive or black females as large as males can win, but overall, it is a White dominated sport. This definitely involves “runnin’”, so why aren’t blacks more represented? Is it because they can ONLY run, and not have to perform two actions at once? The question remains as to why there are high profile studies and books that have categorically stated that blacks are superior athletes. How can a lie be the truth? And why is it so necessary to promote a lie as the truth? Cuo bono?

Zenster said...

D. Freeman: There is no purpose in discussing anything with an asshole you just end up covered in their crap.

Out comes the ad hominem attack, a sure sign that someone has run out of ammunition.

No where [Sic] is your intellectual dishonesty and complete lack of a basis more clear than your complete and admitted omission of addressing my statement on the nonsense of white athletic discrimination.

A point that I refuse to argue as it would consume bandwidth that Paul Kersey has already dedicated terabytes to making in a far better manner than I ever could.

Capiche?

"perish forbid" [Sic] indeed.

Try including "heaven the thought" next time if you want to have any ironic impact. Otherwise you come across as an unlettered wannabe.

I tell you this you are an Amazing internet troll to have gotten this much effort out of my [Sic].

Yet more ad hominem rubbish. Hell, I've been called worse things by close friends. Is that all you've got?

Hats off to you sir.

You'd have to be Bartholomew Cubbins for that to work.

You know what is really sad is that if you or Kersey had more in mind than selling books and increasing your daily hits you all could actually help do something about all of these problems.

Paul Kersey's SBPDL accomplishes more in a day than you do in a year. I merely have the privilege of contributing to that effort.

Ive been through that already and pretty much admitted that to be a logical reality. What i haven't figured out is how all of those superior intellectual genes that whites own made them so prone to massive acts of genocide against so many groups of people over the course of history, especially since the Asians who are/were advanced beyond whites were relatively peaceful.

Does Rwanda or the Khmer Rouge mean anything to you? Evidently not. In reality, your argument is just more of the same tu quoque horseradish.

It would be nice if someone could address that for once; I am very curios [Sic] about the possible explanations. But if Zenster is the only one here i [Sic] doubt id [Sic] get much more than insults and misdirection.

Between us, you are the one who is stooping to insults. If my valid criticisms of you come across as "insults" that is due more to your inability to perceive reality than anything else.

Zenster said...

D. Freeman: You may be correct that the "black" style of play has made it more difficult for white athletes to compete. But this is based on demand not on some liberal scheme.

All of which explains the large scale exodus of White spectators from "Black style" sports. What a frickin' mystery.

Anonymous said...

NFL passing stats

Tim Tebow does not appear because he does not make the required 14 throws per game.

In the fourth qurter of the Minnesota game Tim Tebow was flushed out of the pocket and kept the play alive until he found an open receiver. Later Chris Ponder, who is on the list because he does, threw a bad pass which was intercepted.

Tim Tebow has on field smarts which places him closer to Aaron Rodgers than Michael Vick now but as it does not show up in the statistics sports reporters do not notice.

Zenster said...

Anonymous White Male: Now, try again. See if you can answer the issues I raised in my original post.

Good luck with that, pal.

The question remains as to why there are high profile studies and books that have categorically stated that blacks are superior athletes. How can a lie be the truth? And why is it so necessary to promote a lie as the truth? Cuo bono? [emphasis added]

[golf clap]

As all good detectives will tell you; when dealing with any wrongdoing that is not a crime of passion, "follow the money".

While an ideological element exists with respect to Liberal enabling of otherwise incompetent minorities, there is also a huge industry centered upon profiting from this exercise in futility. A short list would include:

● Criminal defense attorneys
● The NAACP, La Raza and all other racialist groups
● Prison guards and the entire penal system
● Law enforcement
● The judicial system
● All diversity and sensitivity workers
● Ethnic studies departments
● The entire Affirmative Action industry
● Discrimination lawsuit attorneys
● The Social Services employees union
● Globalist transnational Multiculturalists
● Black Liberation theologists
● The professional sports industry
● Race baiting wannabe warlord pimps like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson

Did I leave out any obviosoes?

D. Freeman said...

@Anon white male


Wow

It's amazing how on this board two people can say the same thing and it can be completely different interpretation for the sake of argument. I find it hard to see the vast difference between my casual definition of Athletic and your online definition, especially considering the point of my statement was completely ignored afterward.

The purpose was to set the precedence that being good at a sport is not the same as being athletic, the same way that being athletic does not make you good at every sport. You completely ignored this widely known truth because it kills your argument.

Football and Basketball require more pure athleticism than possibly any sport in the world outside of maybe MMA. You have to be strong, fast, quick, agile, be able to jump, have endurance, excellent reflexes, and toughness and so on.

How many of those purely physical tools are used in the winter Olympics? The only thing close is hockey. My point was that sports in the winter Olympics as well as weight lifting, darts, rafting, etc are not nearly as dependent on pure athleticism as Football and basketball. You distorted my statement to allow you to fit your weak argument in. But im not saying Hockey is not a real sport. Im saying it is a sport that does not rely on athleticism as much as Football and basketball.

If you took Vernon Davis, a 6-3 man with a 40+ inch vertical, who weighs 260 pounds and runs a 4.3 forty yard dash and has fluid hips, and TRAINED him to compete in almost any sport that required athletic ability and was not biased against larger muscular men (like gymnastics or tennis which is why few blacks excel in those), he would dominate in most cases. You could not say the same about Micheal Phelps, Lance Armstrong, Rodger Federer, etc.

See training/skill/toughness are the great equalizers in sports. But we are not talking about sports we are talking about athleticism. Why do you think that the Winter Olympics is always a ratings disaster, or that Hockey isnt even on TV anymore? It is because Americans love to see the pure athleticism (and to an extent violence) in football, basketball and now MMA. If Americans loved seeing skill and training at work the WNBA would be successful and Major league pool would be on tv a bit more.

Tebow is more athletic than any other white QB in the NFL, possibly in history since Steve Young. Americans love that, and love that he looks like them. It is the perfect storm, and if he develops Steve Youngs throwing ability he will be legendary, but that is definitely not the case now.


But you are right, if you just look at sports, surely whites dominate more sports. But there is a reason why every study shows that blacks are better athletes, because it is the truth. You can call it runnin and jumpin all you want, but I say again those are the things that are key indicators to being a good ATLETE. However training, dedication, skill, heart, discipline, those things go into being good at a sport. Sports that require superior athletics (ie runnin and jumpin) are much less up for grabs to anyone who is not a superior athlete

So in reality i guess you are conceding my point as i clearly concede to what i assume is yours. Being good at sports is more than being a good athlete, but being a good athlete is much easier with negroid genes. Give me something to show otherwise then I will concede both points. Your point about research is a good one because this is one thing that even a race realists like Rushton has in common with everyone else so you tell me what does he of all people get out of that alleged "myth"?

Anonymous said...

Football and Basketball require more pure athleticism than possibly any sport in the world outside of maybe MMA.

You should make it clearer that this is the AFL you are talking about because some people might think you are referring to the NFL. Or even the CFL.

D. Freeman said...

● Criminal defense attorneys
● The NAACP, La Raza and all other racialist groups
● Prison guards and the entire penal system
● Law enforcement
● The judicial system
● All diversity and sensitivity workers
● Ethnic studies departments
● The entire Affirmative Action industry
● Discrimination lawsuit attorneys
● The Social Services employees union
● Globalist transnational Multiculturalists
● Black Liberation theologists
● The professional sports industry
● Race baiting wannabe warlord pimps like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson

What is sad Zenster is that i would probably agree with you on almost all(ALMOST ALL) of those entities in their complicit goal to keep blacks in the situation the are in now. But you dont really care you would rather grandstand than anything else. That and you seem to be a bit of a racist. That usually doesnt make most people want to deal with you.

Also, I fail to see that there is some "mass exodus" of white fans from the NFL and the NBA the consensus most popular sports in America for what the last 25 years. Sure ticket sales are down (during a recession) but nothing else is. Were talking a multi billion dollar business. That point holds no weight.

Zenster said...

D. Freeman: Football and Basketball require more pure athleticism than possibly any sport in the world outside of maybe MMA.

I've gotta call pure unadulterated grade AAA jumbo sized ranch style Heinz 57 varieties of 24 karat gold plated 31 flavor HORSESHIT on this one.

A gold medal pentathlon contestant exhibits far more "pure athleticism" and cumulative skill than 99.99% of pro football or basketball players, especially the Black thugs who have infiltrated those once respectable sports.

D. Freeman said...

@Zenster


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA....

Takes deep breath

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!!!

Man Zenster you have to go, where are Van and Californian when you need them!


you mean to tell me that Fencing, horse riding, and shooting are examples of "pure athleticism."

Exactly what part of your body do you train to ride a horse?

And im supposed to believe you are some type of engineer with this type of logic? In between posting on this forum 15 times a day and running your own Islamophobic blog i see...

Notice again that you and your friend keep on throwing in the word skill to try to distract from the my point as if i havent already clarified the difference between Skill and Athleticism and that they don't have a "causal" relationship. (golllllie see how dem black folk get alluh learneded when ya gives us a chayunce!)

But thats ok, ignore this post and go back to talking about my typos i know thats your thing.

Zenster said...

D. Freeman: you mean to tell me that Fencing, horse riding, and shooting are examples of "pure athleticism."

A pentathlon replicates the skills most needed by a soldier that finds himself behind enemy lines. It is those same soldiering skills that enabled White armies to kick ass and take names wherever they went, especially Africa.

Almost all recreational sports "recreate" aspects of combat. How many Black Navy Seals are there? How many Medals of Honor are awarded to Black soldiers?

Of the 3,464 Medals of Honor awarded as of June 2009, 88 have been awarded to 87 different African American recipients.

That's a whopping 2.5% which hardly reflects the 13.6% of America's total population or the percentage of Blacks currently serving America's military.

I would say that a Special Forces soldier represents the ultimate in "pure athleticism" and, by that standard, Blacks are shown to be sorely lacking.

Zenster said...

D. Freeman: Exactly what part of your body do you train to ride a horse?

Quite obviously, like a lot of Blacks, you have never ridden a horse.

Health And Fitness Benefits Of Horse Riding

Physical Benefits:

● Horse riding is one of the best forms of exercises, which provides both cardiovascular and muscle conditioning benefits. It may seem like the rider is not indulging in much movement, but an hour of horse ride burns equal amount of calorie as a 30 min jog or a cycle ride does. Therefore, all the health benefits associated with cardiovascular exercises can be gained by horse riding.

● After a horse ride, you might be able to feel muscles that you never knew existed. This type of a feeling is because of the movement of the horse and its affect on the rider. The rider counter-reacts to the movement of the horse to avoid getting off balance. During this process of the reaction, the deep postural muscles of the trunk and pelvis and the adductor muscles of the thighs gets conditioned continuously. This helps in improved balance sense and strengthened muscle of the rider.

● Horse ride practice will also help in improving the coordination power of the rider, especially the eye and hand coordination. It not only sharpens the senses, but also fastens the reflexes and increases the motor planning ability of the rider. Horse riding makes a person alert of his/her surroundings and helps in developing the alertness required, during emergency situations.

● Regular horse riding not only improves the concentration of a person, but also helps in exercising and proper stretching of the thigh muscles. This leads to decreased spasticity in a person, removing all the sprains and tensions in the muscles.

● Regular horse riding also helps in increasing the range of the motion of the joints. It stretches the muscles and increases their ability of motion. After few days of horse riding you will experience your joints moving more freely and easily in a way you never thought you can move them.

● Horse riding helps in improving the integration and collaboration of the various sensory organs. It also helps in improving the respiratory process of the body. It helps in proper respiration and circulation in the body.

● Horse riding also helps in improving the visual-spatial perception. It improves the grasping power of an individual. Horse riding fastens the process of visual grasping and signal sending to the brain.

Socio-Emotional Benefits:

● Horse riding is a sport that involves a lot of attention and a bit of risk taking. Hence, a person learning or practicing horse riding also learns to take up risks and survive in difficult situations. The sport makes a person tough and prepares a person to overcome all hurdles.

● Horse riding as a sport also helps in making a person disciplined. It is a sport that teaches self-discipline. It increases the patience level of a person. It improves the locus of control of the person. The person’s increased self-discipline helps in improving his/her focus.

Zenster said...

D. Freeman: And im supposed to believe you are some type of engineer with this type of logic?

Believe whatever you like, I could give a rip. My replies to you are for the edification of this forum. What you take away from them is strictly a matter of your own choice and comprehension level.

In between posting on this forum 15 times a day and running your own Islamophobic blog i see...

I do not run a blog anywhere on the internet.

The mere fact that you would use the word "Islamophobic" tells me and everyone else here at SBPDL exactly whose side you are on.

Much like with accusations of racism, being called "Islamophobic" is a badge of honor for any sane Westerner.

It is increasingly apparent that you bring precious little to the table here at SBPDL.

Zenster said...

D. Freeman: Notice again that you and your friend keep on throwing in the word skill to try to distract from the my point as if i havent already clarified the difference between Skill and Athleticism and that they don't have a "causal" relationship.

I'm hoping that someone more well-versed will interject but it is quite easy to argue that "Skill and Athleticism" do have a causal relationship.

Pure athletic strength is like an unloaded gun. No matter how well built, the gun cannot perform its task save as a blunt instrument.

After all, they do not call them "locomotor skills" for nothing.

Without a certain and definite degree of skill, an athlete's ability to perform will be severely compromised.

As an example, it doesn't matter how well you sprint and catch; if you cannot gauge where the ball will land you will not get a chance to run or intercept it. Predicting the trajectory of a moving object is clearly a skill.

The locomotor skills required for good muscular coordination, again, are quite independent from actual strength or endurance. Literally, just learning to walk and balance oneself is a prerequisite to gaining any athletic ability in the first place.

I would say that this totally demolishes your attempt to decouple any causal relationship between skill and athleticism.

Anonymous said...

Exactly what part of your body do you train to ride a horse?



All of it.