Thursday, September 13, 2012

Because Life is So Brief and Time is a Thief When You're Undecided: The Racial History of Gary, Indiana and the Need for Restrictive Covenants

Gary, Indiana demise correlates to the 1967 election of its first Black Mayor
It's a city time forgot; it's a history lesson that we purposefully skip over; it's yet another reminder that "Manifest Destruction" (the Great Migration of Blacks from South) was the most devastating event in American history.

Gary, Indiana.

In S. Paul O'Hara's Gary, the Most American of All American Cities we are introduced to a city whose collapse mirrors that of Detroit (described in vivid detail in Escape from Detroit:The Collapse of America's Black Metropolis): with a population that nearly 100 percent white in 1920, Gary saw a migration of 15,000 Black migrants between 1920 and 1930. At 18 percent of the population of Gary in 1930, another 20,000 Black people would join them by 1940 -- lured by work in the steel mills.

Through high fecundity rates (maintaining close racial solidarity), the percentage of Blacks would slowly began to overwhelm the white population; by 1967, Black people would be able to elect Richard Gordon Hatcher as one of the first Black mayors of a major city in the nation.

Time magazine would report the election of Hatcher was a victory, not because of race, but due to a desire to reform the political process. Nevertheless, the magazine would report:
"Shouting, dancing Negroes weaved wildly through the six downtown blocks of Gary, Indiana."
Today, Gary, Indiana is 84 percent Black. USA Today called it a "ghost-town" in a 2011 article [Gary, Ind., struggles with population loss, by Judy Keen, 5-19-2011]:
The 2010 Census crystallized Gary's decline: The population, which peaked at 178,320 in 1960, is now 80,294. From 2000 through last year's count, Gary lost 22% of its residents. The city's unemployment rate in February was 9.8%.

Gary — like Detroit, which lost 25% of its people in the past decade — faces tough questions: What is the best way to shrink a city? How can city government provide adequate services as its tax base contracts? How can new employers and residents be wooed to a place known more for blight than for opportunity?

The city has cut many services and decided last month to close its main library, which opened in 1964. A state board raised property tax caps this month and set Gary's tax levy at $40.8 million. If the caps had not been increased, Gary would have been allowed to collect only $30 million. It was the third and final time the city can seek such relief.

A plague of vacancies
Gary was founded in 1906 by U.S. Steel, which still employs 4,727 here. Last year, the company announced a $220 million modernization of the Gary plant.
The city's decline began in the 1960s as overseas steel production squeezed U.S. makers and accelerated in the 1970s as "white flight" prompted the rapid growth of surrounding cities. More than 80% of Gary's residents are black.
 Wait a second: why can't the 84 percent Black population sustain the wealth that white people left behind?; why can't they keep alive the businesses?; why can't they keep alive the high property valuations; how come the migration of Black people to Gary brought high levels of crime and violence that caused white people to flee the city?; why can't the majority Black population ignite that entrepreneurial spirit, innovate, attract outside investments, and diversity the economy (as happened in Pittsburgh -- another city built on steel)?

The answer is self-explanatory: because the population is less than 10 percent white and 84 percent Black.

Because Black people (outside of state and federal welfare, handouts, subsidies, and grants) have no purchasing power, the city needed an emergency infusion of cash in 2009 from the Obama stimulus fund. In all, Gary received $266 million in stimulus funds [Gary, Indiana: Unbroken spirit amid the ruins of the 20th Century, BBC, by Paul Mason, 10-12-2010]:
I'd been to Gary, Indiana before. In April 2009, when the Obama fiscal stimulus had just begun, the city's mayor had told me that all the city needed was $400m of stimulus money in order to "fly like an eagle and make our country proud".
To put this in context you have to know that Gary, home to what is still US Steel Corp's biggest plant, is suffering from one of the most advanced cases of urban blight in the developed world. Its city centre is near-deserted by day. The texture of the urban landscape is cracked stone, grass, crumbled brick and buddleia.
Gary is one third poor, 84% African American, and has seen its population halve over the past three decades. If crime, as the official figures suggest, has recently dropped off then - say the critics - that is because population flight from the city is bigger than the census figures show.
Gary in the end got $266m of stimulus money and has, according to the federal "recipient reported data" created a grand total of 327 jobs. That's $800,000 per job.
I went back determined to find out how the stimulus dollars had been spent; to get beyond the ideology and recriminations and see why President Barack Obama's stimulus has failed to turn the country around.
Brink of bankruptcy?
So what's the story with Gary and the stimulus? The mayor believes the city is "last in line" when it comes to federal money - because the money is dispensed via the state of Indiana, which is Republican controlled. Mayor Rudy Clay tells me:
"I guess they thought, well, Gary voted in large numbers for the president, enabling him to take the state of Indiana, so he will look after them."
But it is more complex - Gary's public finances are a mess. It owes tens of millions of dollars to other entities. Its great get-out-of-jail card - tax revenue from casinos - turned out to be a busted flush. Its convention centre is dark most of the time. The one-time Sheraton Hotel, right next to the City Hall, is derelict.
With no ability to raise a local income tax it is reliant on property tax. But the State of Indiana passed laws capping tax raising powers, so by 2012 Gary's tax income from property will halve.
At that point, according to the fiscal monitor appointed by the city, it will lack the revenue to fund even its police, fire and ambulance services. The monitor calls for much of the rest of Gary's services to be privatised - but as city officials point out, once privatised they cannot enforce job guarantees that allow the city to employ local people. Says the monitor, bluntly:
"The city will simply have to give up some long-standing - and often important - services that are the responsibility of other governments, even when it is likely that those governments will not provide the same level of service."
 This is the cost of "Manifest Destruction." Gary isn't suffering from Urban Blight -- that's just a symptom of the real problem. It's not suffering from crime, high foreclosure rates, bad schools, or lack of outside capital investment in the infrastructure (and potentially investors who would open up businesses that could provide some semblance of a commercial tax-base); it's suffering from the unmentionable legacy of the migration of Black people and the overwhelming of a once prosperous white city.

Earlier this year Karen Wilson-Freeman became the first Black female mayor of Gary. Her goal? Increase the efficiency of the almost entirely Black-run government, which calls "small victories" fixing potholes, repairing sidewalks, and not dropping the calls the 84 percent Black constituents who call to complain about he poor city services [Meet Indiana's First African-American Female Mayor, The Atlantic, 12-29-2011]:
While U.S. Steel still employs 6,000, that’s a far cry from the 50,000 people who once worked there, and the loss of those jobs is reflected in the boarded up homes and empty streets that spread across town.

At its peak in the 1950s, Gary’s population topped 200,000, only to plunge in subsequent decades to about 80,000 in 2010.

Freeman-Wilson says she wants to heal the sometimes tense relationship between employer and town. “Certainly, they have a responsibility to our city, but we have a responsibility to be a good partner,” she says.

To hold up its end, willing to start with “small victories,” like better lighting, pothole free streets and repaired sidewalks.

But beyond that, Freeman-Wilson speaks of making Gary a cleaner city, not only in appearance, but also in the way it deals with residents, who frequently complain they cannot reach anyone at city hall.

“You should be able to get through without being transferred five times,” Freeman-Wilson says.
The decline of Gary correlates to the rise of its Black population and the decline of the overall percentage of its population (remember, roughly 100 percent white in 1920). 

Indeed, where the white people went once they escaped Gary, prosperity flourished. Thriving business and commercial districts, safe streets, outside investments, and good schools were just an outgrowth of this migration [ Hurt feelings continue over Northwest Indiana town's creation [Merrillville, Ind. experiencing now a little of what Gary did 40 years ago, WBEZ 91.5, 8-31-2012]:

U.S. 30 and Interstate 65 in Northwest Indiana is among the busiest retail corridors in Indiana. For a long time, this area, much of it in the Town of Merrillville, was the envy of Northwest Indiana, but none more so than for folks living in Gary.
To Steel City residents, the establishment of Merrillville a little more than 40 years ago was seen as a racist slap in the face allowed by Indiana state lawmakers.

But today, if you need to buy a new car, or celebrate a birthday or buy that special gift or see a concert by a top-notch artist, if you live anywhere in Northwest Indiana chances are you’re doing it in Merrillville.
“Merrillville is the Main Street of Northwest Indiana,” said Rich James, a retired political columnist from Northwest Indiana.
While shops dominate the Merrillville landscape now, James remembers it wasn’t always like that.
“Fourty-one years ago, Merrillville was pretty much a cow pasture,” James said. “It had a name, it wasn’t incorporated.”
But what the area did have was plenty of open land; land to build homes and businesses on. This area became pretty attractive just as the City of Gary began its steep decline as steel jobs began to dry up in the once-thriving community of 175,000 residents.
But loss of jobs wasn’t the only issue facing Gary.
In the mid-1960s, blacks increased in number in what was then a very ethnic-white Gary.
Confined to living in one section of city for decades, blacks pushed for the right to live anywhere they chose, including in affluent white sections.
Richard Gordon Hatcher became Gary’s first black mayor in 1968. In the years up to his election, Hatcher pushed for an open housing law. It wasn’t easy.
“Every time it came up for a vote the council chambers would be packed with screaming and yelling. I liken them to the Tea Partiers today,” Hatcher told WBEZ. “They were yelling and all kinds of racial slurs and they would intimidate. I introduced that bill at least six times. It was defeated five times.”

White fam­­ilies from an increasing black Gary left in droves once Merrillville became a town.
The hurt from that time still exists today even as Merrillville’s demographics have shifted.
But it won't last, with the Black Undertow escaping their city of Gary and migrating to where ever white people go. Merrillville is now 40 percent Black:
Merrillville incorporated as a town in 1971, developing at a rapid pace with not only new residents, but retail development over the next decade.
As life breathed into Merrillville, in Gary, it was just the opposite.
Residents fled and Gary’s once thriving downtown – devastated.
Carolyn E. Mosby remembers growing up in a rapidly deteriorating Gary and couldn’t understand why it was happening.
“When you see these boarded up buildings on Broadway or you see these vacant homes, a lot of the people who chose to leave, a lot of the people who chose to leave didn’t decide to sell their businesses or sell their homes, they just boarded them up and left,” Mosby said.
By the 1980s, Mosby was a teenager who often found herself not shopping at the Merrillville area’s new mall or other stores – pretty much at the insistence of her late mother, Carolyn B. Mosby, a longtime state legislator from Gary.
“She was very involved in the community as well and this was something that was very near and dear to her was to really support those people that chose to stay in Gary, the businesses and the folks who didn’t abandoned their home and moved to Merrillville,” Mosby said.
Just last year, Merrillville celebrated 40 years as a town.
This town of 35,000 residents is no longer lily white.
In fact, it’s now more than 40 percent African American, with many continuing to move because its school district is considered better than Gary’s.
No town in America is safe from the Black Undertow. Gary was overwhelmed, to the point where without the infusion of $200+ million of stimulus funds in 2009 it would have ceased to be a city. This is the legacy of the Black Migration from the South, an event that has led to the ruin of Cleveland, Detroit, Chicago, and decentralized the Black dysfunction that was once reserved solely for slave-holding states.

But it was in reading S. Paul O'Hara's book that the realization that the 1948 Shelley v. Kraemer U.S. Supreme Court ruling (outlawing restrictive covenants) was the nail in the coffin for the long-term prospects of America became crystallized. On p. 138 of Gary, the Most American of All American Cities we learn that the election of Gary's first Black mayor signaled the coming of disaster for the white residents of the city:
Fear of a city run by a black mayor led many white residents to move away. "For Sale" signs popped up as residents feared declining property values. A rash of white flight of both capital and population occured. "I been here all my life," reported one white resident to Harper's.
I got me a house I paid $35,000  for, but I'm leavin' it.... It's not that I hate the colored or anything, but I'm dumpin' it all. Who the hell wants to live this way, I ask you. Bein' scared somebody'll hit you on the head all the time, you can't go out of the house after dark. You work all your life for something, and then they start movin' in, and suddenly you don't have anything - it's not yours anymore. First person that makes me any kind of half-ass offer on that house now, it's his, and I'm gone. With once exception - I'm not sellin' to no goddam colored. I'd put a torch to it first. 

The prospect of sharing a neighborhood, especially for a city built upon an image of strict separation, was seen as undermining the very thing people had worked for in the mills. "Mr. Hatcher, We are a big group of women, who would like to know a few answer," stated one letter to the new mayor:

We have nothing against the colored people but we would not like to have them live next door to us. Yet it seems that the colored people are always pushing... Please can you explain to us why black people want to be near us when we don't want them deep from our hearts & never will?
Questions that will never, ever be answered. Instead, billions upon billions of stimulus must be spent to try and "save" cities like Detroit and Gary --- the reason being that "Manifest Destruction" destroyed the social capital, community, and infrastructure that white people had created before their arrival.

Without restrictive covenants, the future of all American cities resembles that of Gary, Indiana.

It is, after all, the most American of All America Cities: In Black-Run America (BRA) that is.

And like that fistful of sand from the Rod Stewart song, civilization in Gary has slipped through the hands of the Black people who inherited the city after whites left.


67 comments:

Anonymous said...

"We have nothing against the colored people" - Such a shame that they had something against you.

So CAL Snowman said...

"Increase the efficiency of the almost entirely Black-run government, which calls "small victories" fixing potholes, repairing sidewalks, and not dropping the calls the 84 percent Black constituents who call to complain about the poor city services."

You have to love the irony of the dropped calls of the generational welfare blacks calling to complain about poor government services! I laughed out loud when I read that. These people seem to think they are entitled to a pay check and a banquet of government services simply for existing. The gall of these welfare leeches to actually call and COMPLAIN about poor government services. I love how even when they get through to city hall, they get the run around. Ha! not even their own politicians want to deal with them. What would they say anyway? Sorry there is no money for services because you welfare leeches do not generate any taxable income and your property values are SHIT because you live like 3rd world animals. Much easier to pin the blame on Whitey and deflect any and ALL criticism.

"Please can you explain to us why black people want to be near us when we don't want them deep from our hearts & never will?"

It's simple dear, even though America was "built on the backs of slaves" these skills were "stolen" by the White man and the blacks were thus prevented from ever building a sustainable community ever again. Thus they must ever seek out the White man and his riches for a better life, even though we are all equal.

OT- Here is a wonderful little picture that shows you why there is no difference between Mittens the Kitten and Captain Chuckles. Check out Obama's top contributors from 2008 and Mitten's top contributors from 2011. They are almost all the SAME!

Jackals of Jekyll Island - Federal Reserve Audit

rjp said...

The city's decline began in the 1960s as overseas steel production squeezed U.S. makers and accelerated in the 1970s as "white flight" prompted the rapid growth of surrounding cities. More than 80% of Gary's residents are black.

You can't blame this on the steel industry in the 1960s, it was strong here in the USA until the late 1970s.

Gary in the end got $266m of stimulus money and has, according to the federal "recipient reported data" created a grand total of 327 jobs. That's $800,000 per job.

And blew it on a "Fambly and Fwends Job Program".

....But beyond that, Freeman-Wilson speaks of making Gary a cleaner city, not only in appearance, but also in the way it deals with residents, who frequently complain they cannot reach anyone at city hall.

“You should be able to get through without being transferred five times,” Freeman-Wilson says.


Hire people wo go to work to work and do their job, and not to collect a paycheck while passing all the work off to other people.

"I been here all my life," reported one white resident to Harper's. "... First person that makes me any kind of half-ass offer on that house now, it's his, and I'm gone. With once exception - I'm not sellin' to no goddam colored. I'd put a torch to it first."

Any money says he sold to the very first colored that made an offer.

Discard said...

Merrilville is dead meat. 40% Black is well above the Racial Toxicity Level.

MuayTyson said...

If the names and the descriptions were changed it would sound like bad, trite, fiction. How many sci-fi stories employ the antagonist as a race of creatures who like locusts travel from planet to planet sucking up all the resources?

very odd indeed. The reality is as bad as Hispanics are who basically are colonizing the South West or the Muslims in the Mid West they leave a resemblance to civilization. Make no mistake I don't agree with this colonization but as they pressure onwards they leave a Third World reality behind. Blacks leave pure and total destruction.

danaigh said...

How viable are cities as whites once knew them? I grew up in Seattle, a mid-sized city. My family has lived in small towns since we married forty years ago. Now a trip to Seattle or Portland seems not like traveling to past I recall but to a dysfunctional present; unkempt yards, young urban adults, few children, and a menagarie of third world groups inserted for additional dis-harmony.

There is no sense of past or future but instead individual you meet as if in a surreal dream. Location is now just a spot on the map, transitory, meaningless as a reference point to your life.

My children connection with each other through networks of interests, text messages, social web sites. Their future is one which we older folks can hardly grasp. A city is an old, ancient concept, now anacronistic, soon discarded. Friendships are formed via the 'net'. Putting down roots in a community has no reality.

You could not imagine the future without the city, but it is being lived now. The change in other institutions will also morph into un-dreamed of forms; education, law, government.

Lucky for us our short life-span will allow an escape to what is coming, what we could not adapt to anyway.

Anonymous said...

In the 1980s I had a running joke with a friend of mine. That once a city elected a black mayor you knew it was effed. This was in Boston in uber liberal Massachusetts. I talked with him last week and asked if the greater Boston area was still racially segregated when it comes to housing? He said yes

The vicious lib powers that be did move blacks and black immigrants (means Haitian in Massachusetts) into housing projects that had always been white like in South Boston. This was done while there were already solid black projects where no poor white would move to in a million years

Bogolyubski said...

Paul is correct that restrictive covenants are key. Note how far back the blackrobes outlawed them? 1948. That was long before the great communist-led "civil rights" movement of the 1950s and 60s. As usual, the way was paved in advance. Six years later (1954), the mullahs outlawed segregated schools. The one-two knockout punch - and YT was largely clueless at the time.

Look at Merrillville now. How long before the inevitable starts to take place in a big way? It's already 30% groid. Merrillville hasn't got long. Those who own property there had best get out while they can - but I almost get the feeling they'd rather get destroyed financially than be called raycisss! by some hissing DWL. Restrictive covenants are indeed of tremendous importance. No way in hell the oligarchs in charge - who are the ultimate beneficiaries of BRA - will ever let that happen unless they are facing real mobs willing to do to them what the Libyans did to the DWL over in the ummah yesterday.

Anonymous said...

Blacks are utterly incapable of maintaining and sustaining prosperous, successful societies, let alone creating them.
Even when successful societies are handed over to blacks by (fleeing) whites, these societies inevitably turn to shit. Case in point: Johannesburg, SA...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LW6lOdxqSUE

Whiskey said...

The inevitable outcome is that Whites save a few very wealthy will cease to own real estate. They will live "Scots-Irish" aka "Borderer" from the book "Albion's Seed: Four British Folkways in America."

We call them derisively Hillbillies, the Scots-Irish were predominantly Scots lowland Protestants and settlers in Northern Ireland who found government a distant oppressor that only taxed and killed them, nothing else, found constant clan/tribal warfare, for well over a thousand years, and acted the same way in America's "backwoods" the Appalachians and nearby areas.

You can see the cultural adjustment: highly mobile, hoarding every penny to themselves, avoiding taxes (the Whiskey Rebellion giving me my nom-de-blogging was just such an occasion) and a fairly clan-based semi-tribal approach to life, Andrew Jackson being the primary example.

If people can't live in nice decent neighborhoods they will move around A LOT, avoid taxes, distrust the government, collect as many arms as possible under the radar, never give an inch, in short live like the backwoodsmen of Andrew Jackson's age. That's not a recipe for wealth creation or a stable and happy society.

Middle class America circa 1920-1990 threw off an enormous amount of wealth, wealth that paid for nearly everything. That wealth is now gone, and not coming back. The implications of a highly mobile, highly defensive, highly clan-oriented White population is frightening.

Anonymous said...

theres a 'chimp out' over at AWD..
saturday nite at waffle house

Californian said...

Remember "The Music Man," the musical and movie? There's a song about Gary, Indiana, extolling its virtues as a centerpiece of Americana. I had a neighbor who had grown up in that part of the world, and he really liked "The Music Man." He's long dead, but you have to wonder what he would think of the current status of Gary, Indiana. Oh yeah, he attended college at Wayne State in Detroit, yet another American city laid waste...


At its peak in the 1950s, Gary’s population topped 200,000, only to plunge in subsequent decades to about 80,000 in 2010.

In the 5th century AD, there was a tendency for the cities of the Western Roman Empire to become depopulated. The cities were easy targets for pillage by the various barbarian tribes which were roaming throughout the Empire. Even those cities which were secure tended to be over-regulated and over-taxed by the central government, becoming unlivable for the average citizen. People fled to the countryside where they could rebuild their lives around magnates who had the strength to maintain pockets of civilization. Sometimes, when a city was entirely destroyed, such as Aquileia by the Huns, their people would flee to more secure territory and build their city anew--in this case, laying the foundations for Venice.

One wonders if future historians will make similar observations about American cities of this era...

Anonymous said...

You pitiful, desperate boobs. This paranoid racist nonsense isn't just socially destructive -- it's intellectually dishonest and lazy. This is the world as you want it to be -- a bedtime story to help you seek comfort in your unimportance. None of you are in any position to prononce judgement on "the blacks," a category that's more a creation of your self-serving imagination than a reflection of reality.

Oh, and moderator: give it up. Your side is losing this battle. Go outside, get some fresh air, do some jogging. You can do better.

Anonymous said...

We have muslim bastards killing white folks and you want to do this shit?

California said...

This paranoid racist nonsense isn't just socially destructive -- it's intellectually dishonest and lazy.

Well, now, why don't you demonstrate where SBPDL is wrong?

Can you argue against any of the statements made in this article, or website?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous@ 8:46PM You've redefined "paranoid nonsense". If you aren't a negro move to Gary and if you are stay there.

SAVANT said...

I was a Visiting Professor at the UI campus in Champagne some years back. A friend asked me would I like to visit africa with him. Sensing my confusion he reassured me 'it's only 45 minutes away. Yup, that's the distance between the First and Turd Worlds.

http://irishsavant.blogspot.ro/2009/10/sometimes-diversity-is-good.html

Lex32 said...

"Anonymous said...
You pitiful, desperate boobs. This paranoid racist nonsense isn't just socially destructive -- it's intellectually dishonest and lazy. This is the world as you want it to be -- a bedtime story to help you seek comfort in your unimportance. None of you are in any position to prononce judgement on "the blacks," a category that's more a creation of your self-serving imagination than a reflection of reality.

Oh, and moderator: give it up. Your side is losing this battle. Go outside, get some fresh air, do some jogging. You can do better".
---------------------------------
My reply:

I cannot wait until the collapse happens when you & your ilk are left to reap the multiculturistic seeds of death & destruction you have sown for so many, many years.

I pray to God I am alive to help in the eradication of your kind from the face the earth, save for the History books, which will finally be written by honest, truthful men.

If I don't live long enough, my sons will. You've lost the war & you don't even know it yet.

I've come to the conclusion that I HATE America now. This is not the Nation that I grew up in. You leftist, nigger loving, dope smoking queers ruined it & we are going to make you pay dearly when the times comes.

Semper Fi in Mississippi

Anonymous said...

I notice that you capitalize the word black when referring to Negroes, but not the word white when referring to white people. What gives? Colors should not be capitalized. But if you are going to capitalize black, then you should certainly do the same for white.
We cannot win the battle if we permit the enemy to control our language.

Johnny See said...

Anon @ 8:46
The thoughts presented on this site, both by the author of the blog and those of us who respond, are borne out of a very well thought-out and reasoned look at our country's societal decay.
The blacks dont really need to be oppressed by anyone else; they oppress themselves quite well without any outside assistance. Black men are mostly to blame for this self-oppression, as they mindlessly sire young that they abandon recklessly: they are biological fathers but not spiritual ones. Thus, their offspring grow up unbalanced, lacking male role models and guidance. Their single mothers are too busy working (maybe) to put food on the table to do much parenting.
The other side of the coin, which most people are too afraid to discuss, is that our American blacks are the weakest of the herd, genetically speaking. I dont say this to be insulting, but it is painfully obvious by looking at the dysfunction of the black community both in their culture and in the scholastic failure of their young in school. Further evidence of this is quite simply historical: African tribes who were strong overpowered the weaker tribes and sold them into slavery.
None of this is happy stuff, but it is. Given that it is, it would be nice if we could all sit down and agree that we have a problem and decide what to do about it. I am fine with the idea of us all being equal under the law, but we must acknowledge that we are in fact very different. Different culture, look, attitude, learning habits, etc. We really need to live apart and visit each other on occasion if we want, but no one should be forced to live together with people they feel no connection to and are in fact repulsed by. History is replete with examples of forced coexistence that led to very bloody and sustained conflict.
Repeatedly insisting that we are all the same is like saying that there are no Dachshunds or St Bernards or Collies, only dogs; and that has to be the most sophomoric and childish stance I can imagine.
This is not a hate site; it is a 'Hey we love our white culture and why are we not allowed to point out what is fucking it up?' site. Sorry to see you are too brainwashed and simple to understand that; please go back to your TV and let the reasonable adults keep reasoning. We understand that you cant handle the truth, and must resort to your bedtime story of parroting 'the narrative' because the world is very big and contradictory and hard to explain... now that mommy no longer holds your hand in assurance that all is well. We are attempting to find a peaceful way forward, and we are not afraid of truth.
Feel free to come back and join us once you grow up.

Kil said...

"You pitiful, desperate boobs. This paranoid racist nonsense isn't just socially destructive -- it's intellectually dishonest and lazy."

Open your mind and face the truth. Free yourself from the anger and wake from the illusion. That's the only advice I have for you.

Anonymous said...

To Anonymous "pitiful, desperate boob": Please play me some more rap.

Liberal communists like you are destroyers and pillagers of society!

This is one of the most political uncorrect and informative sites I have seen, since I first "logged on". This is a site that truly tries to be analytic and give people information on "whats happening"!

Anonymous said...

Savant's comment reminded me of a Baltimore joke:

What's the quickest route from Israel to Africa?

Reisterstown Road.

Midwestern said...

"My children connection with each other through networks of interests, text messages, social web sites. Their future is one which we older folks can hardly grasp. .."

Danaigh, this is why I do not buy my children cell phones and data plans, allow them on Facebook, or put them in institutionalized schooling where they identify with a peer group instead of their parents.

They respect their elders. They know their father is king of the castle and everything goes through him. I play second fiddle. They help to prepare and eat all meals around the table, thank God and their father for providing for them, and have never had a television in their rooms. They do their chores or face serious consequences for not doing so. They must share everything and they have very little privacy. They can have a limited number of friends, and will not get a driver's license until they are at least 18 and have a job. I was raised with no such rules, and I was eaten alive. It has taken me 30 years to get back on track but I did it.

I talk to parents all the time who complain about their children's texting, gaming, friends, drug use, drinking, lack of interest, disrespect, and socialization outside of the family. How they just want to sulk and watch TV in their rooms. I see white kids all the time with electronic devices in their hands wearing $200 designer blue jeans. As soon as I mention that these parents are not victims of their own children but actually the reason for the problem, they are offended. As soon as I mention homeschooling and parental control, they tell me that I am overbearing as a mother and they don't have the luxury of homeschooling. Crazy.

Parents ALLOW and even encourage their children to drift off and turn outside of the immediate family and culture. Their parents let them slip away to become nasty little creatures who talk back, lie, sneak around, or become Wiggers who imitate black culture. I look directly at the parents for the problem. This can all be prevented by instilling some good old fashioned family values.

Hate to lecture, but if you want your children to respect white culture and the beautiful places that whites have built, then you must instill this value system in them as if your life depends on it. If you have grandchildren, it is not too late to start with them.

It is the parent's job to say no more often than yes. To teach delayed gratification, humility, decency and respect, and to appreciate everything that their parents have sacrificed for them. You can not just let go and throw them to the wolves, because they will be eaten alive.



Midwestern said...

"This is the world as you want it to be -- a bedtime story to help you seek comfort in your unimportance. None of you are in any position to prononce judgement on "the blacks," a category that's more a creation of your self-serving imagination than a reflection of reality."

Bedtime story. This made me laugh out loud. I have lost many hours of sleep thinking about the blacks around me and what they might do in the cover of darkness.

Obviously people like this useful idiot have never lived around authentic blacks and their dysfunction. If he is white, he is one mugging away from opening his eyes, and obviously struggling with the guilt of having looked at this blog in the first place.

If he is black, he will never see that he is not entitled to our generosity. If this person was not such a coward, he would post with a name so that we could address him directly.

Anonymous said...

Merrillville is about finished. Whites tend to move further and further south, making a longer and longer commute necessary.
If all the blacks would just leave Gary, we could pull a switcheroo and move to back to one beautiful location on the lake and close to jobs. But Im afraid the blacks would then naturally follow us back into Gary.
My dear African friends, would you just please stay in one place and leave us the hell alone?

Mutant Swarm said...

Discard said...
Merrilville is dead meat. 40% Black is well above the Racial Toxicity Level.

September 13, 2012 5:06 PM
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Maybe we should start expressing Racial Toxicity Levels in terms such as they do in biology. You know, RTL-20 being the lethal dose of blacks (as a percentage) that kills a city.

Mutant Swarm said...

Anonymous said...
You pitiful, desperate boobs. This paranoid racist nonsense isn't just socially destructive -- it's intellectually dishonest and lazy. This is the world as you want it to be -- a bedtime story to help you seek comfort in your unimportance. None of you are in any position to prononce judgement on "the blacks," a category that's more a creation of your self-serving imagination than a reflection of reality.

Oh, and moderator: give it up. Your side is losing this battle. Go outside, get some fresh air, do some jogging. You can do better.

September 13, 2012 8:46 PM
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Have a bowl of cereal and STFU.

Anonymous said...

I believe that one of the major harms introduced into the Black community was welfare. When LBJ started his "Great Society" programs, I believe it was intended to give poor people a hand up and out of poverty. Instead it was turned into a lifestyle. I'm not saying that the white sector of the population did not "catch on" to this deal. There was/is also an increase in the number of white illegitimate children. But the numbers are a bit higher in the Black community. My mother in law was blind, (detached retinas)and my husband used to have to take her paperwork to the welfare office in downtown Gary (old Sears building). He would come back with stories of how the waiting area is filled with pregnate girls (mostly under 18) filling out their applications and usually being assisted by a female family member. He was floored how many girls are having babies before they even get a driver's permit. Same story in the emergency room at the hospital. Girls coming in having labor and the nurse asking if they had any complications like this with their first child (and they're maybe 16 years old). Gary Indiana has the highest population of small children being raised by senior citizens. It's very hard to keep control on a teenager when you're 75 years old and having health problems. I cannot help but wonder how many people (Black and White) would be having out of wedlock babies...if there was no check attached? That if something like this happens...you go home and tell your family and they have to deal with it. It's like getting paid for being stupid.

Zenster said...

danaigh: There is no sense of past or future but instead individuals you meet as if in a surreal dream. Location is now just a spot on the map, transitory, meaningless as a reference point to your life.

Continuity is a White thing. Especially in the context of an open society with extensive personal liberties. While some Asian cultures exhibit a strong degree of continuity, it is often obtained through rigid behavioral controls at high cost to social capital.

My children connect with each other through networks of interests, text messages, social web sites.

Your children are also the first generation to be more shy than the preceding one, ever since these psychological metrics have been kept. It is a direct result of texting, tweeting and other means of electronic communication that allow for editing of one's content prior to sharing it.

This editing short-circuits the need for competent extemporaneous expression, fluid articulation and the ability to speak confidently. The lack of such abilities manifests as social awkwardness during interpersonal exchanges, a lack of spontaneity and just as often results in such individuals withdrawing into stratified activity niches such as online chat rooms where there is a low probability of encountering opposing views or any serious challenges to already held beliefs.

There is no way to overstate the immense damage this does to young minds and personalities. Lack of personal confidence is a vicious scratch-itch cycle which only entrenches an inability to develop social graces and interact cohesively. Rest assured that there will be some serious hell to pay for this downstream.

Their future is one which we older folks can hardly grasp. A city is an old, ancient concept, now anachronistic, soon discarded.

Even as these same dismissive individuals wonder where any sense of "community" went. That is, if they are even able to articulate the sense of what they are missing. Make no mistake that enforced integration via Section 8 resettlement and mass immigration are propelling this process of "atomization" as Big Government proceeds apace at shredding the fabric of White middle class society.

Friendships are formed via the 'net'. Putting down roots in a community has no reality.

See above. What I really dread is the fate of whatever children these new "online" generations will have. If you thought being babysat by a television was bad, just wait and see what havoc a "virtual" childhood will bring.

Make no mistake, the internet is one of the most powerful modern tools ever invented; ranking with the internal combustion engine, microprocessor, spaceflight and genomics. However, such technology brings with it an almost equally powerful downside that requires diligent monitoring in order to overcome.

Most parents simply aren't up to the task and their children will be sucked into cyberspace with a concomitant loss of real-life skills.

Anonymous said...

You didn't argue whether the points made and statistics used in the article were incorrect. You simply called people names and said it's over for people who hold their beliefs. Do you want to try again and tell us where the article's facts or conclusions are wrong?


-- Ulick

fnn said...

We have muslim bastards killing white folks and you want to do this shit?

I think most of us here know that the real enemy is the regime headquartered in Washington:
The View From a Cog in the USA’s
Aggressive-Multicultacracy Machine

Anonymous said...

Midwestern makes great comments about saving our kids from black culture, but it gets more difficult every day. A few years back when every white kid we hired as an apprentice was wearing his hat sideways and pants baggy, we got this one white Irish kid who could have gone to school with me in the 70s. He knew the deal and had white pride. When I asked him how he avoided becoming a wigger, he told me that from when he was a kid, his father would always show him and his brothers newspaper articles showing blacks in their normal environment, committing crimes, going to prison. Ethnic jokes were common and his father drove them to his old neighborhood full of garbage and crime. It worked with him and I've been doing it with my kids ever since.

I'm all white! how about you? said...

what we are seeing on the fox news channel(muslim protests) is coming to a town near you except that the people in the footage will be a lot darker. things are getting ugly fast and when the jessie "my other family' jackson & albert "not so" sharpton get wind of the struggle we will see things look alot like 1968 riots. and the pig king louie farrahkan gets his pig swine muslim spooks marching we need not be in their way. blood will be spilled and we have no representation in d.c.! mitt is only the short term answer right now. you think things are bad in gary, illinois wait till chi-town starts to melt down with all their murders and strikes it's only a matter of time before the negroes start crying. what's going to happen when pres. o'bumhole loses? watch these 2nd. class citizens want the i-phone and air jordon's for free and that pig obummer ain't around. with q-e-3 comming down the pike our money will be just paper to burn in the fireplace. so in recap we the white man/woman will be put into hard spots in the near future so that i say arm and ammo up quickly cause my fellow white folks we are in for a rocky f-ing ride. godspeed

europeasant said...

Chicago can remain stable for quite a while. The black population is not growing and is being exported to outlying vicinities. At the same time white rich people are moving into the downtown areas because of the rich cultural environment.
The Hispanic population seems to be growing. I drove down 26th street the other day and it was like being in Mexico. Starting from Western Ave to Cicero Ave which is the western boundary of the city, I saw nothing but Mexicans. I wonder if Mexicans can be introduced into the southside of Chicago and start the cleansing process. Something similar is happening in LA I suppose. There are not enough white people having children to colonize Detroit, Memphis, St Louis etc, but if that happened The US could have a revival in itz cities.

Discard said...

Europeasant: Mexicans do not revitalize American cities. At best they stabilize them at a much lower level than Whites will accept. How low that level might be without the constant influx of White taxpayers money I don't know, but logic suggests that dirt street shanty towns with intermittent electricity, shared water taps on every block, and some kind of rudimentary sewage canals are within La Raza's capacity, but not much more than that.

Anonymous said...

Merrillville is now referred to as South Gary. Most of the retail businesses in this article are actually in Hobart, which is east of Merrillville. A lot, most if not all, of the crime is committed by the usual suspects is not reported or under reported.

The county has a water park, it's called Deep River Water Park, and they had a large "incident" involving the usual suspects earlier this year. The police and the media covered it up. They had an article in the paper about the incident, minimizing it, and a week later they had stories in the paper and local tv news about how great the park is...

Portage, Indiana is east of Merrillvile in Porter County. This is where Oprah built some apartments, you can guess the results. The things that happen there rarely make the paper. Portage is now referred to as East Gary.

The local papers, The Times and Post Tribune, censor the news and if a crime is committed by the usual suspects they refrain from publishing the pictures in the paper. They do some of the time. They didn't publish the pictures of the people arrested at the water park.

The area is full of DWLs and the newspapers have stories, almost every week, about how the white man is racist and that he keeps the black man down. Most, if not all, of the stories are written by DWLs who like diversity, but don't want to live in it.

When these "people" arrive at a location the result is nothing but violence and destruction. They do not add anything that is positive.

Sheila said...

Funny but sad - I really have minimal knowledge of/experience with Indiana (visited a college friend there once, and my brother spent a year of college there), but like Californian, the first thing I thought of when I saw "Gary" was "The Music Man." (Actually, I'm reminded of "The Music Man" every time I have to listen to my younger son's 6th-grade school band perform.) I had no idea it had fallen to the black undertow.

Excellent, excellent comments, Midwestern. We, too, have worked hard to inculcate our children with our values. Those mistakes we made with the older (a computer in his room in middle school) we will not repeat with the younger. Neither ever had a t.v. in his room. The younger one's internet use (on a computer in the upstairs family room) is controlled and monitored - and all social networking sites are blocked. We, too, have explained our feelings on other races, religions, and cultures - and explained why we believe what we do. Our innate intelligence, combined with our real-world international work/travel experience, gives us a good deal of credibility. Yes, we still get occasional pushback, but that absolutely imperative caution, which modern PC dulls or bludgeons to death, has been instilled. They know to be wary of blacks and immigrants. They know not to date outside their race or faith. They also know why. In the case of our older boy, real-life has generally reinforced our lessons. He's still a libertarian, but he's starting to see just why some system of government is necessary for fallen man (other than mere consequences when one's actions inevitably impact another). You can save your children from modern society - but it takes loads of time, attention, and damned hard work. Most parents are either too lazy, or too busy "self-actualizing," to be bothered.

Bogolyubski said...

Anonymous (D-jersey) said...
You pitiful, desperate boobs. This paranoid racist nonsense isn't just socially destructive -- it's intellectually dishonest and lazy. This is the world as you want it to be -- a bedtime story to help you seek comfort in your unimportance. None of you are in any position to prononce judgement on "the blacks," a category that's more a creation of your self-serving imagination than a reflection of reality.

Oh, and moderator: give it up. Your side is losing this battle. Go outside, get some fresh air, do some jogging. You can do better.


Classic DWL/Marxist comment. Note the complete failure to address any of the salient points of the article or those raised by the various comments. Instead, we're treated to self-righteous, moralistic posturing - probably from a person who denies the existence of a transcendent God, who even Moose-limbs acknowledge in their twisted, perverted way. Then follows the assertion that we're being left behind in the dust by the inevitable great march towards the shining utopia. See why I say that living under Moose-limbs would be preferable to living with a POS like this?

J. Christopher Stevens, the regime's point-man who helped orchestrate the 'Springtime for Allah' business (whose intrepid 'Arab street revolutionaries' in Benghazi made their top priority the establishment of a central bank), was a dedicated leftist DWL like this asshat. Karma's a bitch, as they say. Mr. Stevens could have been sent to his eternal reward by the usual suspects because knew too much about the ultimate destination of the massive pile of gold the regime's late ally in the global war on ter-r-r-r-r Col. Kaddhafi had stashed in the sands of the Sahara to back up his proposed alternate currency for oil transactions, the Libyan dinar. The whole story about the event reeks to high heaven of falsehoods, which brings us to the next asshat.

Anonymous (R-jersey) said...
We have muslim bastards killing white folks and you want to do this shit?

And here we have the NRO/Republican half of the dialectic. The white folks killed had no business being there, for starters. They were willing or clueless but dutiful employees of a treasonous and genocidal regime whose interest in being there had nothing whatsoever to do with defending the country, whose borders continue to be wide open, who continues to resettle Moose-limbs into places like Maine and Minnesota. But the "patriot" poster neverthless thinks we need to send some more divisions over to the ummah to bring them the shining light and blessings of feminism, sodomy and "democracy" (and central banks, of course). Anything that distracts us from the great invade-imvite scam is to be shouted down as "unpatriotic".

Interesting to see a couple of classic examples of the shell-game posted side by side.

Midwestern said...

"You can save your children from modern society - but it takes loads of time, attention, and damned hard work."

Yes, yes, yes Sheila.

Parenting today is life or death and should be taken very seriously. No one ever said it would be easy. We should not ever tell our children it is easy for we have much to lose if we don't take the time to do it correctly.

Sheila said...

Bogolyubski - excellent summation: "Anything that distracts us from the great invade-imvite scam is to be shouted down as "unpatriotic."

We already know that the State Department (never a bastion of America patriotism, even back in my day) is now the province of women, "people of color," Jews, and Gays. It exists to celebrate "Gay Pride Day" and lecture host countries about how to better institute multiculturalism, when not apologizing for America's manifest evils. While the murder of an ambassador incites a natural sense of anger (clue - that's precisely why it's done -to insult and humiliate the ambassador's country), Christopher Stevens was a huge proponent of deposing Muslim strongmen and allowing the "blossoming" of Islamist regimes. He was very possibly gay, as well. While I hardly celebrate his death, I'm not among those carried away in pseudo-patriotic fervor because of it. He chose to be where he was. He admired Muslim culture and people. He was exactly like the DWLs killed by the blacks they love to promote.

No, I do not think this was done with the Halfrican's full knowledge and connivance (but neither would I put such a thing past him). You merely take lax security concerns (a perennial State Department weakness), add an anti-American administration, and mix in a previously unheard-of movie with a shady background of purported Jewish financial donors and a criminal immigrant Coptic Christian producer, and . .. voila. Shit happens.

It's all part of the same whole, anyhow, so it doesn't really matter which facet one chooses to focus on. Muslims, blacks, gays . . . all favored groups in the orchestrated dispossession and displacement of America's historic people.

Californian said...

Classic DWL/Marxist comment. Note the complete failure to address any of the salient points of the article or those raised by the various comments.

Which is one reason I find websites like SBPDL interesting. They provide a fact based critique of today's world. The DWL side can only engage in name calling. But can they dispute what PK or Unamusement actually say? There may be arguments to be made against race realism, but I do not see any coming from DWLs and their allies.

It's the deeper delusion. The faith DWLs have that if one simply pretends enough, if one chants the right slogans enough, if one shuts one's eyes closely enough, race will go away and we will be in the promised land. All this even as their world is being swept away.

Anonymous said...

Midwestern, I do agree with you about the proper way to bring up children. It's no mystery, really, but it IS hard work at times. Yes, we are fighting a prevailing culture that, most of the time, gives us little rest, & certainly gives us no help.

What I mean by that is that parents who care enough about their children to "risk" being different, requiring their children to look different, act different, behave properly (both at home as well as out & about), will find little or no support from other parents of their acquaintance who've made it their mission to be their child's best friend & personal cash fund.

One day compliments will begin to replace quizzical looks or outright criticism. That "weird" notion of insisting on work before reward, of deferring one's pleasure for a larger good, of learning not to care when others have some silly new toy, will not seem so weird anymore.

But it's not good enough to give this philosophy lip-service. A parent had better be prepared (hopefully, before having their children!) to BE this way themselves, or it will never work. I know that I'm on the front lines, so to speak, as I do my bit to help turn this crazy culture around....and I may have to go down swinging, but I see that as better than sitting on the sidelines, whining about things.

Zenster said...

Discard: Europeasant: Mexicans do not revitalize American cities. At best they stabilize them at a much lower level than Whites will accept. How low that level might be without the constant influx of White taxpayer's money I don't know, but logic suggests that dirt street shanty towns with intermittent electricity, shared water taps on every block, and some kind of rudimentary sewage canals are within La Raza's capacity, but not much more than that.

[golf clap]

There isn't much evidence to indicate otherwise. Please, anybody, prove me wrong. I dare you.

Anonymous said...

Ex-Lincolnite here:

I highly recommend to all here the book Nixonland by Rick Perlstein. He is a liberal scumbag, but the story told in that book is enlightening. The courts are who robbed us of our right to private property in the 1960's. We need to remember that a liberal run Supreme Court robbed white America of its right to stop mongrel hordes of niggers from entering white neighborhoods.

America died the same decade. The Americans are the ones who are killing themselves by putting up with unfettered black migration into white areas.

But the Republicans are really just hucksters as well. They want votes, but they are part and parcel of BRA.

The day private property vanished, the white middle class, on which this country was built, died with it. America needs to wake up, but it will all be too late. Get more than a tank of gas away from the blacks and retrench and rebuild in areas that are run by civilized white people. Remember, we can still have restrictive covenants if we all segregate ourselves into white enclaves. Let the urban areas die off. Then we might be able to rebuild in 50-100 years.

This election will not matter, as both candidates are card carrying members of BRA.

Zenster said...

Midwestern and Sheila, thank you both for providing danaigh (or any other White parent), with such useful advice. I meant to do so in my previous comment but became overly engrossed with describing the personality-killer of modern digital telecom connectivity.

No television in a child's room? What a f&%king concept. My home had a single black & white TV and if it was still warm after bedtime, we all got beaten for it.

Discard said...

Sheila and MidWestern: I was outside a high school today at dismissal time, and all I could think of was, "Why do parents allow their kids to go to school looking like that?" Worst of all was the kid with 1" diameter holes in his earlobes. Moslems who kill their wayward children are better than that boy's parents. At least the Sand People care about their offspring.

Zenster said...

Discard: Moslems who kill their wayward children are better than that boy's parents. At least the Sand People care about their offspring.

Murdering your own children out of some misplaced sense of "honor" does not equate to good parenting skills. A nuclear family's ability to competently raise children is the bedrock of any civilization.

Even the most cursory glance at what passes for civilization in Islamic countries bespeaks a hideous degree of neglect with respect to childcare. Intentionally keeping women illiterate and unlettered is a form of psychological deprivation. FGM (Female Genital Mutilation) can hardly be defined as demonstrating "care" for one's little girl.

Young boys who are obliged to derive all of their knowledge from the forced rote memorization of a single book can hardly be called "educated". Experiencing constant sexual segregation is not a healthy environment with respect to developing social skills or maintaining a heterosexual norm.

Muslim parents do all of these things or knowingly allow them to happen to their children along with much worse.

Islamic nations are perpetual cesspits and technological backwaters specifically because of the severe child abuse that goes on in those countries. So, please don't delude yourself or anyone else that children are raised properly by Muslims.

Anonymous said...

From perfect America to crime-ridden, dangerous, violent, poverty-stricken ghetto. Welcome to the age of "diversity."

Anonymous said...

@savant: CHAMPAIGN is 2 hours & 35 minutes from gary, IN! 45 minutes from champaign = bloomington-normal IL, springfield IL, terre haute IN...

Anonymous said...

Here's a clue on how to raise normal kids: ACTUALLY RAISE THEM YOURSELVES. As in, stay at home and raise your own children. There is no paycheck, no glory, few thanks until later on in life, but the truth of the matter is that SOMEONE has to be willing to take the time to raise our children properly. They do not raise themselves! I can tell immediately the difference between a child raised in daycare, and a child raised by a family member. Nothing can compare to having someone who LOVES you actually raise you. I did it with my children. Never went on vacation, never bought the latest gadgets, never went out or had a babysitter that wasn't a family member and when we moved away, we simply took our kids with us and did not look for an outsider to watch them. I was looked at and treated with contempt from most other women I came in contact with. I didn't really "work." Or I was told I was "privileged" to be able to stay home. Never mind that we had less material things than those families where mother and father worked. Never mind that after certain women got to know me, they would admit that they preferred being at work to dealing with the day in and day out of child rearing. Society tells you that motherhood is the most important job, but society shows mothers in a million different ways how little they really think of you. I know that what I have given my children is invaluable and because I know they exist in this world, I have unwavering hope. They are our future and I know it will be bright.

Karen

Discard said...

Zenster: Rearing your children to be Americans would be poor parenting in a Moslem culture. Good parents rear their kids to do well in the society that they live in. Good Hindu parents teach their sons to accept their place as street sweepers or whatever, and good Chinese parents once taught their daughters to shuffle along behind their husbands. And not so long ago most good Jewish parents taught their sons out of a single book, just as traditional Moslems do. Not only did the boys memorize the Tanakh (The Old Testament to us Gentiles), they spent hours a day memorizing what others had said about the holy book (Talmud study).
Furthermore, to this day, most Jews circumcise, that is, mutilate, their sons penises. Do they not love their children? Are they not good parents?

Like their customs or not, Moslems who execute their daughters over honor are still better parents than spineless Whites who support their children's degeneracy. At least the Moslems sustain their own culture. I'll bet that there aren't many Afghan mudsharks.

MuayTyson said...

I agree with Zenster about Muslims and their children.

I lived in Malaysia a Muslim nation all be it a supposedly moderate Muslim nation. Many Middle Easterners travel to Malaysia especially during the rainy season as a vacation spot. I can tell you from first hand experience they care little for the well fare of their children.

Often I would come home from work and find the two little children approximately 4-6 years old swimming and playing in the pool by themselves. The parents were asleep. This is normal behavior very little supervision for the children especially boys. When girls hit a certain age usually well before puberty their world changes to one of the typical Muslim woman's lot.

Muslims kill their children for their perverted system of honor and how it reflects on them not for the well fare of the child.

Wonder why Muslim men act like petulant children? Because by the time they are 7 years old they are telling their mother what to do just like dad if he is not around.

I have a lot of stories Muslims are a fucked up backward people of their own design.

Southern Hoosier said...

"The city's decline began in the 1960s as overseas steel production squeezed U.S. makers and accelerated in the 1970s as "white flight" prompted the rapid growth of surrounding cities."

Let me guess, the Union demanding higher wages and more benefit along with the EPA and OSHA drove the price of American steel up so it could no longer compete on the world market.

Thank you Democrats and liberal for destroying Gary along with the rest of America.

Southern Hoosier said...

"The city's decline began in the 1960s as overseas steel production squeezed U.S. makers and accelerated in the 1970s as "white flight" prompted the rapid growth of surrounding cities."

Let me guess, the Union demanding higher wages and more benefit along with the EPA and OSHA drove the price of American steel up so it could no longer compete on the world market.

Thank you Democrats and liberal for destroying Gary along with the rest of America.

Anonymous said...

MuayTyson said..."I lived in Malaysia a Muslim nation all be it a supposedly moderate Muslim nation."

Can you give us a report from "up front?" For example, what are the Islamic attitudes towards democracy, commerce, science, etc?

For example, can an Islamic society produce scientific advances? Or will it be perpetually stuck in the Middle Ages?

DWLs have informed me that Islam is a religion just like the various Christian denominations. So no biggie if there is a mass migration of Muslims into Europe or America

Will Muslims bring their culture with them into Europe and America, or can they assimilate?

What would you say to all that?

Thanks.

Zenster said...

Karen: Society tells you that motherhood is the most important job, but society shows mothers in a million different ways how little they really think of you. I know that what I have given my children is invaluable and because I know they exist in this world, I have unwavering hope. They are our future and I know it will be bright.

Your comment reflects a searing and blindingly degree of Whiteness.

For that I thank you.

Please, please comment here whenever time permits. White women and White mothers (discouraged as they so often are), especially, are in dire need of your constructive advice.

Discard said...

Muay Tyson: I don't question that Moslems and their culture are wrongheaded from a Western point of view, but they don't live to please us, nor should they. And letting your children wander off is not proof of a lack of caring. My parents, both farm children, would expel us on Saturdays after a few chores. I was not yet five when I and my brother came home once to find my parents gone and the house locked. They believed that we ought be out of the house on nice days, finding our own way until lunch at least. No Saturday morning TV for us, we went down to the Los Angeles River to smash beer bottles and piss in the water. Playing on the railroad tracks was O.K. too, as long as we didn't try to cross the trestle. That got me a good spanking. Normal White people did not obsess about their kids' safety as they do now, but they still loved them. And so do Moslems love theirs, unlike the parents of teen mudsharks and 16 year olds with 1" holes in their ears.

Dave Yaros said...

Me thinks you are in error when you state the Gary Public Library Main Branch opened in 1964?

For a comprehensive look at Gary, IN; past, present and future see - Gary, IN,a web site from one born & raised in the "Steel City."

Anonymous said...

I was raised in a household like that run by Midwestern and her husband. To tell you the truth I hated it at the time, I walked out of the house at 12:01 on my eighteenth birthday and didn't see my parents again for three years. I wound up in Florida, got beat up a couple of times, and I turned 21 in an airport on my way to Army basic training. I communicated with them after that, and we treated each other civilly, but I withheld any real affection from them out of spite.

They have both passed away and I am very regretful for that. They sacrificed a lot for the way they raised us, and even though I realized that well before they passed on, I had decided I wasn't going to say so.

When my mother died, the estate was divided equally between the four children. The others were not like me, and I expected to be cut off, but I got an equal share, which I was absolutely flummoxed to learn came well into seven figures each. I did what any red blooded 37-year-old brat would: I bought a 1971 Ferrari Daytona cash. I drove it once to a car show, got a trophy, and that night I realized want a total loser and fool I was. I sold the car (at a profit) and gave every dime of that money away. Every cent of it was like cigar ashes in my mouth, because I knew I was a punk brat.

Make of that what you will.

Zenster said...

Discard: I don't question that Moslems and their culture are wrongheaded from a Western point of view, but they don't live to please us, nor should they.

Moslems and their culture aren't just "wrongheaded from a Western point of view", they are a failed socio-political and economic system as a whole. Only petrodollars allow the MME (Muslim Middle East) any pretense of being anything but a backwards hellhole of perpetual murder and corruption.

The monumental hubris of imposing jihad upon all other cultures is about to buy Islam a world of grief.

Muslims, like the Imperial Japanese, are going to learn some very harsh lessons about just how important it is to "live to please us". Pissing off White Western civilization is a one way ticket to hell. No other race or culture has ever challenged the White race to "bring it on" without whatever remaining survivors living to rue that monumentally stupid day.

In no uncertain terms, Islam has demanded that White Western civilization deal with cretinous Muslim behavior. All that remains is for a leader to take office who will act decisively. After that, Muslims will either quickly learn to begin executing their jihadist clergy and scholars or find their entire world crashing down about their ears.

Nobody, no-fricking-body does industrial-scale mechanized warfare like the White race. More often than not, other cultures have learned this at their own extreme peril and, usually, great sorrow to boot. So, too, will Islam. It is only a matter of time.

Anonymous said...

Black income is less than 1965 when Jim Crow was in effect.
I guess the more money you throw at a problem the bigger it becomes.

Zenster said...

Discard: And not so long ago most good Jewish parents taught their sons out of a single book, just as traditional Moslems do.

The one slight difference being that you can question the existence of God in Judaism and not get beheaded for doing so like you routinely do for any such thing in Islam.

Just a teensy little difference, I know, but a rather telling one, no?

Anonymous said...

Black income is less than 1965 when Jim Crow was in effect.

We can also look at black rates of violent crime, illegitimacy and school drop outs being high these diverse days. Anyone have the stats for 2012 and compare them with 1953 (the year before Brown vs Board of Education)? And the number of black business start-ups and other indicators of functionality before and after 1954?

Might also be useful to see how DWL policies have caused much of today's dysfunction.

It's claimed that there is a larger black middle class today, but how much of that is a Potemkin Village propped up by AA and et cetera? Were blacks more functional under segregation? Is this the secret that dares not speak its name?

One other heretical thought: how much more efficient White people were under segregation?

Melanie said...

@Anonymous September 17, 2012 2:22 PM

Thanks to another anonymous poster on another thread here, I have bookmarked a link which provides some evidence that no, blacks weren't less dysfunctional before the end of Jim Crow, segregation, and the Snivel Rights movement-they have always been as they are now and only heavy-handedness and/or segregation minimises their negative impact on white societies-here is the link--

http://thosewhocansee.blogspot.com/2012/05/in-word-we-suffer-on-each-side.html#more

Anonymous said...

To all of you and the author most if not all the problems that Gary has is a result of the racist attitudes of people like you all. If you bothered to look the majority of crime was done by whites and the whites left because they were no longer in control. Their own narrow mindsets drove them out. Racism is the undoing of this nation. Many of the people like you all would not stand too well under family history/DNA testing for ethnic origin. the majority of you all come from Afro-American ancestery.

Anonymous said...

Crown Point/Winfield is now suffering from the Black undertow