Tuesday, September 11, 2012

Success Used to Live Here: What the Fall of Gwinnett County Means for White America

Gwinnett County: 91 percent white in 1990; 44 percent white today
There's an apocryphal story involving Andrew Young, former mayor of Atlanta and President Jimmy Carter's ambassador to the United Nations, and an address he gave to the historically Black college Clark Atlanta University in the 1980s. While addressing the subject of the eroding tax-base in the city and the fear of a diminishing amount of resources (funds) to allocate, Mr. Young addressed white flight with this ominous warning:
"No matter where they go, we will follow. No matter how far away they move, we will follow. They can't escape us."
Andrew Young is correct; no matter where white people fled to - from the crime, crumbling business sector, private property devaluations, and poor school systems that accompany a majority Black area -   creating thriving communities in the process, the Black Undertow followed. DeKalb and Clayton County went from being thriving majority white counties to, well, majority Black counties that resembled the Atlanta that whites had fled from in the first place.

The declaration of war set forth by Mr. Young proved true: no matter where whites went, Black would follow; importing the same problems that whites had tried to flee from when an area went majority-lack and eventually overwhelmingly the social capital created in the community to the point of breaking all communal bonds that whites had amassed. 

Back in 1985, Oliver Thomas of the Atlanta Journal Constitution tried to put his finger on why Gwinnett was excelling at such at rapid pace [ Basic reason Gwinnett has prospered is its proximity to Atlanta and Hartsfield, 9-15-1985]:

To say that one of Georgia's 159 counties, Gwinnett, was the fastest-growing county in America during the first half of the 1980s is true, though not quite comprehensible. To say that a decadelong explosion of everything from new people, new housing, new offices and more cars has left Gwinnett staggering under its own good fortune, is also true but vague.
So consider the implications of these very real numbers:
In 1975, there were 115,400 people nestled quietly in Gwinnett, just northeast of Atlanta.
Four years later, people were pouring into the county at the rate of 1,000 per month. By 1984, that migration surge had doubled. Twenty-three-thousand, five hundred new folks landed in and around Snellville, Lilburn, Lawrenceville and Duluth in the 12-month period ended this past April 1, pushing Gwinnett's population near the quarter-million mark.
The reasons for this incredible growth are not hard to comprehend.
While the chamber of commerce may credit leadership, and others may claim white-flight, one overriding reason that Gwinnett quickly mushroomed from rural to urban is its proximity to Atlanta and Hartsfield International Airport.
When the Sun Belt migration began, Gwinnett benefited.
Five years ago, a trailer park sprawled over the northwest quadrant of the I-85 and Pleasant Hill Road interchange. Fronting the park, a general store and a gas station serviced the trailer park's residents and those who motored down the little-traveled two-lane road.
Across the street was a lonely diner, a Waffle House.
It was a heralded chamber-of-commerce event when a freight hauling firm built a terminal on the road between the interstate and Highway 23 to the west.
Pleasant Hill today is a junk food addict's heaven, with McDonald's, Wendy's, Burger King and Krystal competing with Shoney's, Mrs. Winners and Red Lobster. They all compete against the once monopolistic Waffle House.
Today the Gwinnett Place mall, with its 150 stores, sits where the mobile homes once were, and an acre of land that cost $20,000 three years ago today brings around $218,000.
This area, around Gwinnett Place, is now considered the nerve center of the county, and residential developers fight to build as close to this mecca as possible. Hotels, office complexes, and more retail centers than imagined just a few years ago have sprouted up near the mall.
 Actually, it was the white people who fled to Gwinnett County and created a thriving community out of pasture land that deserve all the credit for the growth of the county; conversely, it is the departure of white people and the rise of the non-white population in Gwinnett County that are to be credited with its decline.


 Such is the state of Gwinnett County now, which was 91 percent white in 1990, but is now majority-minority [Will Immigration Turn Gwinnett Blue, Governing, Josh Goodman, December 11, 2009:
In 1990, Gwinnett was 91 percent white. Now, it is a different place altogether. "Gwinnett as a whole," says Bannister, "is becoming a majority-minority group of people." In fact, it already is one. In the U.S. Census Bureau's most recent American Community Survey, released this fall, the white population was down to 49.9 percent. Marina Peed, an affordable housing developer who works county-wide, says that "there's no lily white anymore anywhere in the county. I doubt if there's a single all-white subdivision in the whole county."

Today, Gwinnett has large populations of blacks, Hispanics and (perhaps most surprisingly) Asians. The county has substantial populations from Indian and Vietnam, as well as people of Asian (especially Korean) descent who are from elsewhere in the United States.
Not only will immigration turn Gwinnett blue - from a solidly Republican county - it will turn all of Georgia blue in a state where Blacks vote in a monolith for Democrats [Shifting Population could help Democrats in Georgia, Atlanta Journal Constitution, Aaron Gould Sheinin, September 2, 2012]
In January 2001, Georgia’s electorate was 72 percent white and 26 percent black, while Hispanics made up less than two-tenths of 1 percent, according to data compiled by the secretary of state. As of Aug. 1, those numbers had changed dramatically.
Blacks now make up 30 percent of active registered voters while whites are at 60 percent. Hispanics make up nearly 2 percent of the electorate after seeing their registration numbers increase from just 933 in 2011 to 85,000 as of Aug. 1.
Thus, Gwinnett County serves as the perfect microcosm for America: whites were able to build a thriving community - replete with crime-free streets, schools (almost with almost all-white pupils) boasting average standardized test scores that made the system one of the tops in the nation, rising property values, and an abundance of the type of social capital that makes opening and being successful in business almost a guarantee - that became the envy of the region. And just as Mr. Young said, "we" (Black people) would follow, early attempts to break the Whitopia in Gwinnett County with the public transit system of MARTA were met with racial resistance [Racism called regional transit roadblock, Atlanta Journal Constitution, July 3, 1987]:
David Chesnut, chairman of the board of MARTA, said Thursday he fears a regional transportation system is a long way off and "the reason is 90 percent a racial issue."
While Gwinnett and Cobb counties experienced their initial growth from the white flight from Fulton and DeKalb counties, said Chesnut, "I am very disturbed when I hear young professionals tell me they are going to form NNIG - No Niggers in Gwinnett."

Regardless of what politicians tell him, he knows such people are being honest, Chesnut told the Buckhead Business Association.
Chesnut also told the association:
"I don't think I need to call any names of politicians who, when asked to comment on the Bernhard Goetz verdict, say, `I think it's awful that that man would have a gun and would with reckless abandon shoot at those poor black folks.'
"Well, I agree, but I also think that it is terrible that there would exist any condition which would warrant somebody to carry a gun on a mass transit system. We at MARTA are doing everything that is humanly possible to eliminate not only someone carrying a gun on the system, but the cause that would warrant someone to want to."
During the recent deliberations over the MARTA fare increase, which took effect Sunday, Chesnut said the transit system needed to attract more white riders. About 75 percent of the system's riders are black, according to a MARTA study.

A look at the racial breakdown of Gwinnett County from 1960 - 2005: From "WHITE FLIGHT AND SPATIAL ASSIMILATION IN NEWLY MULTIRACIAL SUBURBS: THE CASE OF GWINNETT COUNTY, GEORGIA by JAMES LEE"
MARTA never came to Gwinnett County, but a wave of Hispanics immigrants did. You see, white people want cheap housing - which requires cheap labor to keep costs down - so they had no problem having Hispanics build their new homes in areas devoid of Black people.

But guess what? Black people, following the prophecy set by Andrew Young, followed too [Blacks, Hispanics lead metro population growth, Atlanta Journal Constitution, March 18, 2011]:
The last 10 years saw a boom in the number of black, Hispanic and Asian residents in metro Atlanta, while the number of white residents fell in four of the area’s five biggest counties, according to U.S. Census figures released Thursday.
The surge in minorities as a percentage of the population also occurred at the state level. Georgia added 1.5 million people, an 18 percent increase. The Hispanic population grew 96 percent, followed an 81 percent increase in Asian residents and a 26 percent increase in black Georgians. The white population grew less than 6 percent statewide.
Because Atlanta has no natural boundaries (save unsafe neighborhoods that are 100 percent Black), the spread of suburbs can continue in a 360-degree radius. And where ever whites go and setup communities (remember, in 1990 Gwinnett County was 91 percent white after being nearly 100 percent white in 1980), Blacks do follow.

And the demands for political power won't be far behind [Face of Gwinnett's Leadership Slowly Changing, Atlanta Journal Constitution, August 22, 2011]:
Though 'white club' still dominates, signs of diversity taking place.

Gwinnett long ago made headlines as a majority-minority county, a reality that is readily observed on the streets of the county's southern and eastern communities. Diversity is reflected in the faces of the men and women passing by. Among the children on school buses. In the signage lining some populous corridors.But there's at least one area in Gwinnett County where that cultural and ethnic diversity is noticeably absent: the county's leadership. The Gwinnett County Board of Commissioners is all-white and home-grown, and most county department heads are white as well. The same can be said for the county's Board of Education, many city councils and the various chiefs of police."It's been a white club out there," said Harvey Newman, a Georgia State University professor of public management.

In theory, as the districts of all elected officials are redrawn to reflect the population shifts revealed by the 2010 census, minorities should gain greater opportunities to elect the candidates they favor. The Voting Rights Act protects minorities from being disenfranchised by having their populations split among several districts. Where concentrations of minorities exist, political districts should reflect those concentrations.

"It would be a travesty that if after redistricting, the entire County Commission and school board is Caucasian --- it would tell me that something went wrong," said state Sen. Curt Thompson, D-Tucker, who grew up in Lilburn.The math is complicated, however, by the fact that minorities often do not vote in proportion to their share of the population. Gwinnett looks to be no different.In 2010, white people made up 44 percent of Gwinnett's population but 59 percent its active voters; black people were 23 percent of the population and 22 percent of active voters; Asians were 11 percent of residents and 5 percent active voters; Hispanics were 20 percent of residents and 4 percent of active voters.
 It won't be long until the new majority-minority is permanently a Democrat stronghold, with the once all-white, all-white Republican county just another reminder of a past where racial socialism didn't reign. And not one white Republican (oxymoron, right?) will dare speak out on this, a tragic reminder that Gwinnett County is but a microcosm for the nation at large.

And with the drop in the overall white percentage of the population, the inevitable drop in the standard of living (a regression to the mean) has occurred in Gwinnett County [Atlanta property taxes: Gwinnett is Foreclosure Central in metro Atlanta
AJC special investigation: County's appraisals have dropped, but not enough, Atlanta Journal Constitution, December 24, 2010]
Two decades ago, Rebecca Carlson's subdivision in Lawrenceville bustled with hard-working, middle-class families. At Christmastime, neighbors lit up their homes with colorful displays. At night, people could walk their streets without fear.
Then subprime mortgages flooded the market, and Quinn Ridge Forest changed. Some new residents let their grass grow 3 feet high, Carlson said. Others let broken windows stay broken. Many longtime homeowners have sold their properties and bolted.
Now, Carlson said, the house next door is filled with renters who come and go. The police have been called to two nearby homes, one for prostitution, the other for illegal drugs.
"I won't let the kids go outside by themselves," said Carlson, 45.
The decay of the neighborhood tracks closely behind the collapse of the housing market. Gwinnett County has become the foreclosure capital of metro Atlanta -- 44 percent of its 10,301 home sales in 2009 were bank sales -- and that foul wave washed over Quinn Ridge Forest, too. At the moment, three of the 12 houses on the market there are bank sales.
The county looks no better in 2010: with 26,502 foreclosure notices for the year, Gwinnett surpassed Fulton, DeKalb, Cobb and Clayton counties, according to Equity Depot, which tracks foreclosure and other real estate trends in metro Atlanta.
And yet, no one ever dares ask the important question: what are the costs associated with Andrew Young's declaration coming true? Well, here's your answer [Gwinnett County’s dramatic demographic shift illustrates question: “Who are We?”, David Pendered, Saporta Report, September 5, 2012]:

The notion that Gwinnett County is home to a population that’s predominately white and affluent is as out-of-date as the idea that two painted water towers along I-85 in Norcross still proclaim: “Success Lives Here.”

The 40-year-old towers were torn down two years ago. In the decade before their demolition, 40,000 whites had moved out of Gwinnett. Now, the county’s population is predominately non-white, and less wealthy and less educated than it was in 2000.

The demographic shift in Gwinnett speaks to the broader question of “Who are We?” That was the topic Wednesday, at the quarterly meeting of the Atlanta Regional Housing Forum.

Out of the entire two-hour program, the most stunning report was provided by Lejla Slowinski, executive director of the Lawrenceville Housing Authority.

Slowinski provided a snapshot of Gwinnett’s population that gave some real heft to the demographic report on the metro Atlanta region that was delivered by Michael Rich, an associate professor of political science at Emory University who heads Emory’s Office of University-Community Partnerships.

Slowinski prefaced her remarks by saying she would talk later about ways in which Gwinnett’s civic and government leaders are leveraging the county’s diversity. But first, she said, she wanted to provide a bit of context about Gwinnett.

Speaking without any visual aids, such as a PowerPoint slide show, Slowinski riveted the audience’s attention with a cascade of nuggets derived from the 2000 and 2010 Census reports. The data shows that Gwinnett isn’t just changing – it is a changed community:

  • Per capita income has fallen by $7,000;
  • The proportion of whites in the overall population has fallen to 49.3 percent from 67 percent;
  • No single Census tract has a white population of greater than 90 percent;
  • 32 percent of households speak a language other than English;
  • 61 percent of students in the county school system are non-whites;
  • High school graduation rates for non-whites rose to 70 percent from 50 percent;
  • 25 percent of Gwinnett commuters spend at least 45 minutes a day in the car.
Sources other than the Census provide additional insights:

  • 18 percent of Gwinnett’s children live in poverty;
  • The county’s poverty rate rose from 5.6 percent in 2000 to 13 percent in 2009;
  • The number of foreclosures in Gwinnett has topped Fulton since 2009 (Fulton formerly had the region’s highest number of foreclosures).
One relevant point is that Gwinnett’s government and school board are trying to serve the human needs of this population with an ever-decreasing amount of tax revenues.

At the Piece by Piece annual meeting last week, Gwinnett County Commission Chairman Charlotte Nash said the county’s digest has dropped 25 percent during the past five years. That decrease has reduced the amount of property taxes collected by the county and school system, which is the main source of funding for both governments.

“The population has continued to diversify,” Nash said. “According to the 2010 Census, Gwinnett was the most diverse county in the southeast. That very different from what it was 20 years. It’s created language considerations, and the demand for additional types of flexibility in terms of how we deal with the community.”

Slowinski said the Gwinnett County Chamber of Commerce works diligently to reach out to, and serve, the minority business community. The number of firms owned by Hispanics and African Americans is still a small proportion of the overall mix, but it’s growing, she said.

Success no longer lives in Gwinnett County; diversity does.Those water towers that came crashing down in a controlled demolition boasted about the climate of the county when it was brimming with white families; now, the social capital is all but gone; the great social experiment in diversity continues unabated.

And a county created by "white flight" from Black people, now see "white flight" from what silence on racial matters (yes, it is white people that are responsible for "good schools," and "safe, crime-free subdivisions") will wrought [White Flight in Gwinnett?, Atlanta Journal Constitution, November 15, 2005]:
Mary James, an empty-nester from Snellville, craves the in-town bustle. Michelle Forren is tired of planning life around rush hour in Duluth. And Louise Stewart is fed up with the Spanish-language business signs, backyard chickens and overcrowded homes in her Norcross-area neighborhood.

Though their reasons vary, all three women plan to join an emerging demographic: whites leaving Gwinnett County.

In what might surprise metro Atlantans who remember the nearly lily-white county of old, Gwinnett's non-Hispanic white population declined for the first time last year, according to the latest estimates from the U.S. Census Bureau. The drop of about 1,500 whites came even as Gwinnett, the state's perennial growth leader, added more than 27,000 residents.

One year doesn't make a trend. And some observers question the census estimates. But the figures offer more evidence that the number of whites is at the very least leveling off in Gwinnett, adding a new dimension to a lightning-fast demographic shift that has transformed a once-uniform suburb into what one Washington think tank called a "mini-Ellis Island."


The number of Hispanics in Gwinnett is now more than 12 times what it was in 1990, according to the latest census estimates. The Asian population has increased more than sixfold. And the black population has grown sevenfold. Until recently, the white population was growing, too, just not as fast. The county is now 57 percent white, down from 90 percent in 1990.

Louise Radloff, a member of the Gwinnett County school board for more than 30 years, said the additions have enriched her district between Norcross and Lilburn. It's the subtractions that hurt. Many schools in the area are now less than 10 percent white.

"It's called white flight," Radloff said. "There is a perception that with the diversity, there is low-income and there is crime. We need to learn to cope with these issues and decide that all men are created equal."

Bart Lewis, chief of the research division at the Atlanta Regional Commission, said any "white flight" from Gwinnett is limited. It's a far cry, he said, from what happened a generation ago in parts of Atlanta and DeKalb County, where neighborhoods changed practically overnight as white families moved to outlying areas such as Gwinnett.

In fact, Lewis finds it hard to believe that the number of whites isn't still rising in Gwinnett. Accurate racial breakdowns are difficult to estimate, particularly at the county level, he said.

Lewis sees the shift in Gwinnett as driven more by economics than race, anyway. Lower-income families scouring metro Atlanta for an affordable house or apartment are landing in the aging neighborhoods of western Gwinnett. Most of them happen to be minorities, Lewis said.

"What I think you're really seeing is an evacuation of more-affluent households of one race replaced by less-affluent people of another race," he said.
For those paying attention, Gwinnett County is the apt metaphor for modern America. And, wherever white people go, wherever they create thriving communities, the warning set-forth by Andrew Young remains:
 "No matter where they go, we will follow. No matter how far away they move, we will follow. They can't escape us."
Success can't live again in America until people dare say the reason Gwinnett County was once the fastest growing county in the nation, and why it now is failing.

Four letters. One word. Race.


88 comments:

Anonymous said...

Gwinnett's citizens need look no further than this poignant video of what majority-black means for them...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LW6lOdxqSUE

Discard said...

Pay close attention to the Hispanics and Orientals. They are more able, and thus more dangerous than Blacks. To all of them, Whites are just one big milk cow to feed off. The Hispanics are imputed to replace the White working class, and the Orientals to be a new professional class. They have no loyalty to the country our ancestors built.

Anonymous said...

Of course they'll follow! The parasite will always follow it's host!
The truth is they "need" us but we dont need them- They're nothing more than useless bloodsuckers.

MuayTyson said...

I would ask PK to look into the ultimate White flight ex-patriotism. I don't know too many people of "color" who expatriate to communities in Southern Mexico or places in Asia etc.

As an ex-patriot I do not see many people other than Whites setting up communities outside of America.

Midwestern said...

And with all of this diversity in the schools, they will eventually conclude that peanut butter and jelly sandwiches are racist.

"Through intensive staff trainings, frequent staff meetings, classroom observations and other initiatives, the premise is that if educators can understand their own “white privilege,” then they can change their teaching practices to boost minority students’ performance."

In other words, lower the standards for the blacks.

http://portlandtribune.com/pt-rss/9-news/114604-schools-beat-the-drum-for-equity

Full Auto said...

"No matter where they go, we will follow. No matter how far away they move, we will follow. They can't escape us."

This is CREEPY. Our great great great great......... great great grandchildren will still be taking care of them. What a nightmare.

Robert S. Oculus III said...

They'd rather die -- literally die, themselves and their children -- than admit the truth.

Self-hatred: the ultimate weapon.

Willfred Tiberius Fergeson said...

Same thing happened in San Diego's south bay region in the 70's-80's. Chula Vista is now "Chula-juana" in reference to the proximity & peoples who make up Tijuana, mx. National City is now Nasty city. Not as white as it used to be.

Thank you so effing much all you marxist shit of a swine.

Anonymous said...

I live in Gwinnett County. There is a park by my house where I walk. On any given night (weather permitting), among 150 people enjoying the park, I will be in the minority. In fact, I counted a couple of times, I searched the crowds for white people and found only 2 besides myself. It was shocking to see it, to be walking and feel as though I was in a third world county or something. Go to a Golden Coral or something similar. OMG. There are very few white people. We are outsiders now. I said to my husband that once white Americans wake up and take notice of what has been done to us, they will be furious. He thinks it's too late. I remain hopeful. I would fight until death anyway because what's the alternative?

Church of Jed said...

White Humanity can't escape them, but we can join together and fight against taxes and admit the mistakes of the past:

MORE OF US SHOULD HAVE BEEN RACISTS.

Anonymous said...

It's not just Obama's fault. The worthless Republicans haven't done to squat to stop this race replacement scheme since it started in 1965. The GOP fat cat bigwigs just gotta have their cheap labor even though it will kill the Repuke party. North Georgia is now infested with low life mestizos all over. Even affluent suburbs of Houston are overrun with Indians and Chinese. I get so GD frustrated, nobody will stand up for we whites and say ENOUGH is ENOUGH!!

Anonymous said...

The fact is, we are no longer wanted here. America's political, ivy league and media elite will forever guilty that George Washintin owned slaves. In order to assuage their gukit, whites must be eliminated thru massive non white immigration and an onerous tax burden to prevent us from reproducing. This, my friends, is a form of genocide. It's time to fight back. Go to the polls nd vote GOP.

Average American said...

What I find astonishing is that in the post WW2 era nations and peoples of might and power seem to be at a disadvantage to the poor and inept.

Take Albanians for example. Albania has a population of about 3 million. It has another 2 million living in Kosovo. Its neighbors Serbia and Greece have around 10 million people each. Yet Albania was able to effectively gain control over Kosovo, large parts of Macedonia and continues to cause trouble in Greece through immigration.

Mexico has around 110 million people, about one third of the USA. Yet, like Albania, they have been able to effectively influence the USA through immigration.

In both the Mexican and Albanian cases, it is interesting to note that while they sent emigrants to other nations, they still maintain 100 percent control of their homelands because they rigidly control immigration. In other words, they are hypocrites and they don't care.

Also, both of these nations did not have to become the majority population in their new lands to gain influence. Obviously Mexicans are not the majority population in the USA as a whole. However, the fact that Spanish is the de facto second language and politicos now cater for their votes shows how they have now become a prominent force in our society.

In a way blacks are acting in a similar manner, albeit within our borders. At thirteen percent, they are obviously far from being a majority, but given that it only takes a five percent black demographic to start to cause a community problems, their presence is felt out of proportion to their actual numbers.

The thing that blows my mind is that history teaches us that might is right and those who have superior weapons and technology prevail. But that is not the case. For fun compare the military strength of Greece or Serbia with Albania. Or compare the military strength of the US versus Mexico, a nation with 10 obsolete fighter jets. Even blacks cannot compare with American whites when it comes to wealth and power. I think Paul keeps quoting that stat that the average black woman has a net worth of $5 or something.

So the world is really turned upside down when those who have nothing seem to be able to take what they want from those who should be invincible.

Anonymous said...

We should buy a large blot of land in the middle of no where and start a city called "White Flight" no apt sec 8 housing allowed to be built , no pubic school , nothing . If the government try's to enter our Encampment we claim to be a religious group and use that freedom of worship to isolate our selfs

Anonymous said...

That's a shame to hear about what is happening in Gwinnett County. My parents live in Douglasville, which I do believe is lowering it's prestige with incoming filth.

But, one of my favorite places to visit in the Atlanta area is a market called H-Mart, a very large Korean grocery superstore. Great veggies, food, samples, and restaurants. It would be a shame to have to pull off the highway into what used to be a very stretch to the market, only to find the same crap I have to see in Detroit and the nearby surrounding areas.

As with whites, Asians hate to be seen a racists, and therefore will not put up any resistance to the black undertow coming into Gwinnett.

They'll just have to move that market and surrounding stores elsewhere.

-Tim from Michigan

Whiskey said...

No one will or has stood up for Whites because Whites are divided. Whites are divided because a great deal of White women just LOVE LOVE LOVE diversity.

Diversity gives (in particular rich White women like Melinda Gates or Madonna or Charlize Theron or Sandra Bullock etc) non-Whites to demonstrate moral superiority. And status-mongering. Diversity gives middle and upper class but not uber-rich/famous White women the opportunity to "teach" or otherwise be a "minder" for non-Whites, which beats ... working. Plus they are elevated into importance and prominence vs. what they would be taking care of White kids.

Diversity means hollowing out or annihilating the White working class, something most White women are down with, all the better to Slut-Walk and "protest" for gay divorce or something. Working class culture being shot to hell is a plus there.

This is universal among women (of all races) when their men become too cooperative, abstract-thinking, "nice" and non-uber-ahole violent and dominant (over women). Derbyshire is noting it among Chinese young women of his acquaintance.

White guy is an insult, as Victor Davis Hanson notes, because (as he doesn't note) ... White women really abhor most White guys. Who are too equal, too ordinary, too non-dominant to be worth defending.

Inequality is a plus for women, they find equality boring (you never find the Eat-Pray-Love folks trundling off to Denmark, its unequal hell-holes like India or Thailand). So too violence and conflict. White guys are just not worth it to them (straight ones anyway).

Look at how White women react to Matthew Shephard vs. say, Reginald Denny. No one among the Oprah-watchers cared about Denny, everyone cared about Shephard.

The constant White flight, the constant White submission tax-wise and legally and culturally and socially, is all because half of all Whites really LOATHE White guys. And to get laid, a good number of White guys mumble a protest at best. Whites are divided, and that's why its happening. Why it happened.

It ultimately cannot go on, but by the time the breaking point comes, it will be South Africa time.

I've seen this phenomena in Barrio Schools I've taught in. Attractive White girls do fine -- they have the hottest, baddest gang member boyfriends, who intimidate everyone else. The White guys either get beat to heck, or leave for homeschooling, or get big enough and join the Football team so they get left alone. But they are always second class and know it too.

This is not just America either -- this describes Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Britain, France, Spain, Italy, Ireland (home to over 80,000 Somalis alone!), Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Germany, Austria, Switzerland, and more.

And no, no one will express ethnic/racial solidarity for Whites. Because most White women find that repulsive: i.e. a White guy not rich/powerful/famous enough that being a minority is not a bad deal for him. That's the dynamics. I don't see it changing. Yeah the media is bad, but it just reflects what White women (who consume most of it, just check the ads for a reality check on me) want. And its global.

Playing Roots Backwards said...

BRA may be the only force that can save us from the monster that created it.

The U.S. Federal government is the mightiest force that has ever existed in the history of mankind. It controls an empire that is many times wealthier than all of the empires that came before it combined.

The only way to reduce its power is to reduce its collective competence and intelligence.

You can bet the index finger on your good hand that the dysfunction that resulted from placing Blacks in high level government positions will increase tenfold if their numbers are merely doubled.

We have all observed what Blacks do to everything with which they come into contact.

We have watched them destroy businesses, cities and counties. They get inside and the rot quickly starts in the core, then works its way outward until nothing good is left.

Put some Black kids on a school bus and you can count on getting a video that goes viral.

Put 'em in college and folks start getting beat up and robbed for their shoes.

Bring your coalburning daughter's mudbaby's suspected father into the family and you will all make the headlines.

I think we can count on our dark little brothers to destroy the monster that created them.

Anonymous said...

We will have to learn the hard way, it's as simple as that. Gonna be a rough century for us Euros.

And if we don't learn, we weren't meant to survive. I think they call that Darwinianism.

Cotton Co. Expat said...

@ Whisky

Man I love you for all that you do, but what's with all the pop cult knowledge. You are obviously one crazy smart guy so why do you keep up with all the tv-pop crap. I check your blog often(you need to post more often). Cut it with all the sex crazed stuff. You could easily become one of the leaders of this little movement. Clean up your act man!
(rant off)

Anonymous said...

Revolution is just not possible. Soviet style bankruptcy / collapse will be the game changer. We are very close. People know it, that's why gun sales are going thru the roof.

Anonymous said...

Discard said...
Pay close attention to the Hispanics and Orientals.

Hispanics cleanse blacks from neighborhoods. They are taking over once all black Compton California.
Asians deal with it their own way. In Washington DC, Korean run convenience stores keep employees and merchandise behind 1" thick bullet proof glass. You slide cash thru a drawer, they slide goods out through the drawer.

Anonymous said...

"The worthless Republicans haven't done to squat to stop this race replacement scheme since it started in 1965."

Oh come on now. Romney is secretly on our side. He will buy us time until, um uh,....pigs can fly.

Anonymous said...

"Asians hate to be seen a racists, and therefore will not put up any resistance to the black undertow"

They seemed to put up a stiffer resistance during the LA riots than the Whites did.

Concerned Citizen said...

"No matter where they go, we will follow. No matter how far away they move, we will follow. They can't escape us."

Oh we can escape you if we leave the country. And that's what will probably happen when we either get fed up and leave this rotting husk of a country or secede.

They can cry about racism all they want but they'll follow us no longer.

randian said...

White women really abhor most White guys. Who are too equal, too ordinary, too non-dominant to be worth defending.

Never mind that it was the ordinary, boring white guys who invented nasty shit like the atomic bomb, sarin gas, and massed air bombing of cities. Whites are the proverbial sleeping tigers. Nothing beats them for ultimate badassery.

Blacks and hispanics keep pushing because they want to get beat down. Somebody they will regret what they wished for.

Average American said...

Whiskey has cause and effect mixed up. White women do not control the agenda. They drink up what is fed to them through the media because women by and large want to be accepted and look to the media for what is and is not acceptable. Thus, control of the media, movies and news, and control of institutions such as education have been the key to the destruction that has taken place over the past 40 years.

Frequently when one points out that the media influences, there is always someone on the left who denies it. You will usually see this argument when a violent movie comes out. Someone on the right will protest that this will harm the kids, while the leftwing director denies the media has any influence.

Now if the media has no influence, why do groups such as homosexuals, latinos and blacks have their GLAAD, ALMA and Image awards? Answer, they know the media influences and shapes public opinion.

Thus, it is not pedestrian white women who have driven this change. Women, as well as men, have looked up to people in the past who would be verboten if alive today. Think about Washington, Jefferson, Robert E. Lee, Custer, Teddy Roosevelt and a myriad of other racist or chauvinistic characters that Americans idolized during their time. Those guys would never be honored today. And it's not white women who decided that. It is the folks who run the universities and schools, the people who make our movies and report our news that pound the message home that the above men are bad in some way, shape or form.

Heck just look at how they used to make Westerns. The John Wayne character was the good guy and the Indians were bad. Did white women hate, hate, hate John Wayne in 1955? No, they did not. But after 50 years intense propagandizing, things have changed.

There is no doubt what happened to the Indians, like other people who have been dispossessed, was disastrous to them. The only thing unique about what happened to them is not that their land was taken, but that the descendants of the conquerers can't live with the guilt of what their ancestors did. I wonder Whiskey, if Turkish women sit around in Constantinople, I mean Istanbul, and hate, hate, hate on the Turks for what they did to the poor Greeks, Serbs and others. Do Turkish women beg for more immigration from those former colonies to make up for what their evil ancestors did? I dbout it. Then again I doubt the Turkish media runs a nonstop anti-Turk campaign either.

So give white women a break. They are programmed to be social creatures and are only following the example laid down to them for the past 40 years.

Anonymous said...

Re: white women, Whiskey, I couldn't have said it better myself.

Brandon

AmericanGoy said...

From the article:

'"It would be a travesty that if after redistricting, the entire County Commission and school board is Caucasian --- it would tell me that something went wrong," said state Sen. Curt Thompson, D-Tucker'

How much CLEARER can they get?

Redistricting is done to get rid of White politicians. When White politicians stay in their positions, "something went wrong".

Meanwhile, when we have all black or all latino politicians in a town/city/region, THAT is a cause for celebration and high-fives all around in our banker and pundit elite caste.

Northern Refugee said...

Remember, no one can make you participate. Ten years ago, I would have said it was an American's patriotic duty to serve his country in the military and pay his fair share to support the commonwealth. No more. White people must withhold their efforts. If you are in the service, get out. That's what I did. Once I figured out that serving the government was a very different thing than serving the country, and that the globalist agenda pursued by our elites was 180 degrees out of phase from the best interests of the average American, I put in my papers. Miminize what you pay in taxes, legally if possible, illegally if you are confident you can get away with it. If you have children, nieces, nephews, etc, KEEP THEM OUT OF THE MILITARY. Let Mitten's kids die for Israel or some half baked "humanitarian" mission. Screw it. Without us, the system collapses. Good riddance. As it is currently stands, this government exists to destroy traditional America and is unreformable. The sooner the collapse, the better. We have guns and numbers on our side, for the time being.

Bogolyubski said...

From the article:
The Voting Rights Act protects minorities from being disenfranchised by having their populations split among several districts. Where concentrations of minorities exist, political districts should reflect those concentrations.

Just a paragraph or two above this, the same article mentioned that whites are now a minority in the population of Gwinnett County. Why, pray tell, does the voting rights act only protect certain minorities, and not others? Once the coalition of Dems and traitor Repubs have their total lock on the county government, does anyone here seriously think they will not split up county so that whites have no representation (apart from maybe the Rahm Emmanuel type of "white")? What do you think the regime in Sodom-on-Potomac will do about this? Just an observation. The reality is that the civil rights act is working exactly as it was designed to.

MuayTyson said...

Whiskey,
I like your observation not 100% convinced it is all women to blame but you make a very arguable point.

I particularly noticed the Eat,Pray, Love statement. If you want to hear Liberal Hippies go mental ask them about Kuta in Bali or Goa in India. Kuta is pretty much ruined do to Aussi surfers and Goa is all low class British Yobs. These places are more like Sydney or Cardiff. Perfect example if the indigenous population is displaced the area is no longer like the host country.

Liberals will see this and cry and nash their teeth how Bali or India is destroyed because of the foreigners (they never count themselves). But funny enough they never seem to agree that the Western countries are destroyed by too many 3rd world immigrants.

Northern Refugee said...

This is the only thing that gives me hope nowadays:

16,048,018,310,212.93

http://treasurydirect.gov/NP/BPDLogin?application=np

At this rate, it will be over soon, one way or another.

Bogolyubski said...

Anonymous (here we go again):
The fact is, we are no longer wanted here. America's political, ivy league and media elite will forever guilty that George Washintin owned slaves. In order to assuage their gukit, whites must be eliminated thru massive non white immigration and an onerous tax burden to prevent us from reproducing. This, my friends, is a form of genocide. It's time to fight back. Go to the polls nd vote GOP.

OK, you've awakened to the basic bottom line. It's definitely genocide and it is not accidental - although those responsible seldom are honest enough to admit it openly. Now ask yourself a question: How many of America's political, ivy league and media elite would qualify as the "posterity" of those who wrote the preamble of the US Constitution? (Remember the preamble, where it states: "...... to secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourseles and to our Posterity....."?) A few, but not many. I'll let you figure out the rest for yourself.

Andrew Young's threat has proved to be true every single place in the country. No matter how remote, out of the way, etc., there will always be some "entrepreneur" or group of them waiting to cash in by building or buying up some property to use as Section 8 housing. It's a no-risk investment. The owners or managers of such properties are always paid - with tax dollars by the regime. The profits are privatized while the costs - and we all know ad infinitum what they are - are handily passed along to the local taxpayers: for schools, police, more infrastructure, etc., etc., etc. In short, YT, gets to pay two sets of parasites: invaders from places like Somalia to live in small town America; slimy "entrepreneurs" (your typical Republican booster) who profit off the racket.

Note that the Republicans you advocate for have done absolutely nothing to even slow the expansion of this one disaterous program. No proposal has even been floated to actually cut it, much less put and end to it. Even during the 12 years they controlled congress, the Republicans - including alleged fiscal hawk Paul 'Mudshark' Ryan - managed to fund its cancerous growth - and that's just one tiny aspect of the whole genocidal program which has been underway since at least 1965. What the hell is it going to take for you to see that the Republican Party's main purpose is to siphon the votes and energies of concerned whites away from actually opposing their own erasure as a people?

Bogolyubski said...

Whiskey's theory is a very interesting one. There's much truth in it to be sure. If it's all due to the rebelliousness and hypergamy of white females - then perhaps there needs to be a serious reconsideration of opposing Islam. In fact, the only white populations on the planet which are growing and not suffering from the phenomenon described are those in Islamic nations and regions (Albania, Turkey, parts of the old Soviet Union).

The laws of jihad applied to the treasonous elite whites along with the spiked iron boot of sharia ruthlessly applied to the female depravity described so well by Whiskey has much appeal. Another good point in Islam's favor is in how they deal with groids and their endless criminality. White leftists love to scream how a fellow leftist wearing an R-jersey like Mittens Obamney will bring back the chains for the poor downtrodden negroes, while the religion of love and peace will actually institute chattel slavery for them. Readers should note that I'm presenting this just to provoke some serious discussion of Whiskey's interesting theory and to demonstrate some way outside the box thought about it - I'm not advocating a wholesale conversion to Islam by whites (yet). But, since Christianity is all-but-dead even in the USSA - now even more-or-less openly aiding and abetting the genocide, how do those here propose to keep us alive in order to fight another day?

Californian said...

In both the Mexican and Albanian cases, it is interesting to note that while they sent emigrants to other nations, they still maintain 100 percent control of their homelands because they rigidly control immigration. In other words, they are hypocrites and they don't care.

"What's mine is mine;
what's yours is negotiable."

There's a term for sending large numbers of migrants to another land with the intent to gain political leverage and economic advantage: colonization.

'nuff said...

Anonymous said...

"No matter where they go, we will follow. No matter how far away they move, we will follow. They can't escape us."

They hate us so much they just can't stay away from us.

We're so evil and oppresive that their lives markedly improve whenever they're around us.

Anonymous said...

"Take Albanians for example. Albania has a population of about 3 million. It has another 2 million living in Kosovo. Its neighbors Serbia and Greece have around 10 million people each. Yet Albania was able to effectively gain control over Kosovo, large parts of Macedonia and continues to cause trouble in Greece through immigration." - They had nato bomb the shit out of Serbia until it cried uncle. If either nation stepped up to stomp them flat they can call on their eastern patrons... and their western one as well.

The blacks and browns aren't the issue, it is those who enable them that are the issue. BRA doesn't mean that blacks call the shots, it means that America is being run for their benefit.

Zenster said...

"No matter where they go, we will follow. No matter how far away they move, we will follow. They can't escape us."

Another vote for "Confessions of an Unabashed Parasite".

Trust incredibly stupid Blacks to never figure out how Whites will successfully "escape" them. Hint: Don't bet on Black.

PDK said...

Since 2008, I have advocated for non-liberals, especially conservatives to call for, and execute a gathering in republican states. To be followed first by a declaration of independence, followed by an outlawing of liberalism and its socialism, Islam and illegals.

This would allow white, non-liberal people to exist in a near complete majority and controll the culture to protect, defend and support more of Americas founding fathers ideology, including life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

I see no other way to preserve the nation state, Republics and capitalism. This trio will otherwise be eradicated and usurped by the new world, one world order of globalism, socialism and democracy.

As white liberals forge a union with blacks and Hispanics to conquer our founding fathers America, Islam pursues their superiority at our libertys expense.

Ultimately, our liberty, wealth and happiness will be conquered by their tyranny, poverty and misery if we non-liberals do not except our burden to remove ourselves from this whirlpool of would be enslavement by those immature and inferior people by gathering in republican states and declaring independence.

A hugh effort for sure, but a worthy cause with, among other things, happiness as a result.

I hope other people like myself will consider this option. I now live in Texas. Thank you.

Paul said...

I have to hope that all you good traditional Americans will pack up and move to New England. Unlike the rest of declining America, we have an abundance of water, plenty of open farmland, and a vast majority of overly white communities.

Nice enough, our economic success is minor, so we don't usually have these negative influxes of filth. Move on up, fill our empty homes, help us reverse our very small non-American trends. Real America still thrives here.

Don M said...

"I think we can count on our dark little brothers to destroy the monster that created them."

Exactly, Roots!

Just look at Eric Holder. We all love to hate him, but this man has done more to decrease belief in the fairness and competence of Government in one term than anyone else could possibly have, not even Obama himself! This is a good thing for us.

Lets hope for more Holders!

Holder for Director of Central Intelligence!
Holder for Director of Secretary of State!
Holder for Director of Homeland Security
A Holder as secretary of each of the Armed Services and a General Holder as the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs!

You get the idea. Think how fast evil BRA would collapse! It'd be at freefall speeds!

Anonymous said...

I've said it before on other threads and I'll say it again: In order to stop the diversity from moving in and destroying everything, you must first stop the libtards who advocate for diversity. If you live in a conservative area that has not been destroyed, shun the libtards. Don't allow them to get into positions of power or influence or the rot will begin in earnest. The libtard is your greatest enemy no matter how friendly, personable and sociable they seem.
In my neighborhood, we've had (over the past 25 years) several families move out for various reasons but those of us who remained always warned those leaving that if they sold or rented to blacks, we'd hunt them down. It was said in a joking manner but was completely serious. They already understood and said they'd never do that to their neighbors or to the neighborhood. That kind of solidarity and loyalty is what's needed and which is completely lacking in libtards.
In this war for survival, the battle begins at the grass roots level.

Dissident said...

Came across this quote recently.

"In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is...in some small way to become evil oneself. One's standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to.”
― Theodore Dalrymple

This is exactly the situation in AmeriKa today. PC madness has come to fruition.

lenzap said...

‘It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers-out of unorthodoxy.’ - George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four

Lucas Evans said...

Call me crazy, but I think we've already won.

The globalists wanted to destroy all structure in WASP America so they could slowly replace traditional America with a multi-ethnic socialist state.

Feminism was supposed to turn the White woman against the White man, destroy the White family structure and reduce the White birth-rate. It worked, but not well enough.

Civil Rights movement and "integration" was supposed to dilute White America. They wanted to glorify the negro so he would replace the White man in positions of power. They also wanted them to race-mix with Whites, as a mongrel population has no ethnic history and is easier to influence and control. It worked, but again, not well enough. Whites still marry other Whites at over 90%. Blacks are in positions of power, but only through expensive AA that is deeply unpopular among Whites.

We still have the 1st and 2nd amendments. The internet is allowing anyone who seeks the truth to find it. White America is armed to the teeth, a police state is impossible with a population as well armed as we are. The US military is still heavily White, especially combat arms. Forcing gays, women and AA blacks into the military has caused much resentment among US soldiers.

The globalists have run out of time and money. BRA is crumbling under debt and a 17% government approval rating. It will collapse long before Whites become a minority. If they could continue their evil plot for another 30 years or so I'd be worried, but I doubt this madness will last another 3 years.

Anonymous said...

Discard said...

Pay close attention to the Hispanics and Orientals. They are more able, and thus more dangerous than Blacks.

You are right. As I see it in the US Southwest the Mexicans have taken over and they are able. Blacks keep quiet and respectable. Blacks know that Mexicans aren't concerned about "equal rights" and hate crime laws. If Blacks try their mob robs, muggings, stabbings, random attacks, etc on them they know the Mexicans will give it right back to them in spades. I felt rather safe and I am White as I traveled around out there. It's too bad we are losing the country but I would rather lose it to Asians and Mexicans that blacks. At least there is some civilization in those two.

Mr. Rational said...

since Christianity is all-but-dead even in the USSA - now even more-or-less openly aiding and abetting the genocide, how do those here propose to keep us alive in order to fight another day?

The dysgenic properties of Islam (inbreeding, purging of intelligence and innovation from the gene pool) would eliminate everything we regard as White from Whites anyway.

Bogolyubski said...

Mr. Rational:
The dysgenic properties of Islam (inbreeding, purging of intelligence and innovation from the gene pool) would eliminate everything we regard as White from Whites anyway.

You're likely correct about that overall. Nevertheless, which white populations are growing and expanding? Also, not all Islamic populations are the same. Some are more dysgenic than others. How would the practice of honor killings against white females who love to dishonor their ancestors by mating with groids be dysgenic? Quite the opposite, actually. Somewhat of an enforced Darwin award.

Bogolyubski said...

lenzap said...
‘It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers-out of unorthodoxy.’ - George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four

Day-um! I'd forgotten that passage! Once again, it's fascinating that the man could see it all coming decades before it arrived. By contrast, think of all the white females described so well by Whiskey who are incapable of seeing it even when it's here now.

Discard said...

I'd side with Average American on the women issue. Women are more obedient than men, which is why they have long been preferred for office work. They are more easily controlled by the threat of ostracism.
Whiskey, you've taught school? You may have noticed how vital it is for girls to be up on the latest gossip. To be out of the loop can be humiliating, a real loss of status. I learned not to think less of them for that, it's simply how they are. What others think matters more to them than it does for men, so they are more easily manipulated by lesbian talk show hosts. Give them three years of White supremacy on afternoon TV, and they'll be sneering at mud sharks.

This is not to say that men are not moved by fear of ostracism, only less so. I write as a sometimes ostracite.

Anonymous said...

" It's too bad we are losing the country but I would rather lose it to Asians and Mexicans that blacks."

How about not lose it at all? Defeat is not an option.

Zenster said...

Whiskey: Look at how White women react to Matthew Shephard vs. say, Reginald Denny. No one among the Oprah-watchers cared about Denny, everyone cared about Shephard.

We may not always be in total agreement but that one comparison of yours really nails the dysfunctionality of modern White women and feminists in general. Win or lose, these dames are in for some real hell down the pike.

Should they succeed, they're going to end up in some warlord pimp thug's harem as arm candy at best and (more often) broodmare punching bag at worst. If they fail, there is an almost limitless harvest of scorn awaiting them courtesy of (or not-so-politely dealt out by), enraged, disenfranchised White men. These deconstructionist White women will have to crawl on hands and knees for a precious chance to go barefoot and pregnant once more.

However much I detest violence against women (and I sincerely do), and however cruel it may sound, if all of the Black on White rapes could be confined to DWL women, I would be nowhere near as concerned as I am now.

Yes, that's a really cold-hearted thing to say but the shitstorm that these DWL White women are brewing up is well beyond cruel to White men as their entire legacy of achievement and greatness is being blackwashed out of the history books in an orgy of modern revisionism.

Next to importing Black African slaves, giving women (and minorities) the vote may well go down as the second biggest mistake America ever made.

Discard said...

Anon at 8:32 AM: I do not have any preference in conquerers, I favor the removal of any threat to our people. Don't think that those docile foreigners won't cheerfully take everything you have if they can.

Bogolyubski said...

Anonymous gets most of it:
The blacks and browns aren't the issue, it is those who enable them that are the issue. BRA doesn't mean that blacks call the shots, it means that America is being run for their benefit.

America is actually being run for the benefit of those who created and made BRA possible, few if any of whom are black. Yes, the "leaders" of blacks like Holder, Sharpton, Obama, benefit personally - but at the end of the day they're merely houseniggas serving their masters - who are the ultimate beneficiaries. Blacks as a whole are not better off under BRA using any rational metric.

Californian said...

White people must withhold their efforts. If you are in the service, get out.

There may be one reason to do a tour of duty in the military--to gain skills which might be necessary in the continuing Decline of the West. But otherwise, there is a point to be made here: I see more people withdrawing from service. People do not want to work for a system which is rigged against them. This may be one reason for the rise of the Militia movement. People are forming their own warlord bands because they can not rely on the state to protect their interests. You wonder what future historians will have to say about this? Perhaps we are seeing the time of transition from the legions to the comitatenses.

Anonymous said...

What I Saw At The Coup

http://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2012/09/11/what-i-saw-at-the-coup/

Zenster said...

PDK: I see no other way to preserve the nation state, Republics and capitalism. This trio will otherwise be eradicated and usurped by the new world, one world order of globalism, socialism and democracy.

As white liberals forge a union with blacks and Hispanics to conquer our founding fathers America, Islam pursues their superiority at our liberty's expense.
[emphasis added]

Thank you for emphasizing the triune nature of America's original historic roots in a republic-based free market economy. Extra points for noting Islam's opportunistic predation upon our liberties.

Far too many people continue to conflate honest Capitalism with the oligarchic criminal enterprise of entrenched political and financial cronyism which currently prevails.

Anonymous said...

I know that I am going to catch flak for this, but:

Never forget that it was a woman that got us thrown out of The Garden Of Eden (I guess that it wasn't good enough because there were no jewelry stores and shoe stores).

It seems that women, white women in particular, are always ready and willing to lower their standards and stab their men in the back for the mere chance of any type of gain, no matter how ephemeral.

I am going through the same thing with my wife. She wants to know why I am so "racist". After all, she says, blacks are the way that they are because of their "culture" that is no fault of their own. When I ask her to explain why they have the same "culture" of lawlessness and worthlessness all over the world, in different nations with cultures different from our own, I get "the look".

The white race is doomed if we don't do something about the enemy within our ranks.

Zenster said...

lenzap: ‘It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers-out of unorthodoxy.’ - George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four

That mad cackling you hear in the background is George Orwell laughing in his grave:

George Orwell is 'too Left-wing’ for a statue, BBC tells Joan Bakewell

According to Baroness Bakewell, who is backing the campaign, Mark Thompson, the Corporation’s outgoing director general, said the statue could not be erected on BBC premises because Orwell was “too Left-wing”.

Orwell worked as a BBC journalist, producing radio programmes at Broadcasting House during the Second World War before leaving to publish Animal Farm and Nineteen Eighty-Four.

Mr Thompson’s remark will surprise critics of the BBC, who have long accused the corporation of liberal bias.


YJCMTSU!

RTWT at Takimag.

Bogolyubski said...

The VDARE writer Patrick Cleburne has another interesting take on the white female vote - in this case the older contingent made up of mothers and grandmothers - and why Mittens is likely going to go down in flames this November.

D'Won and his handlers are again positioning him as the "peace" candidate while Willard is being left as the warmongering candidate who serves the military-industrial complex. Cleburne's first post, about the understandable reaction of non-elite white females to our overlords' endless wars to make the Ummah safe for feminism, sodomy and "democracy", is here. His latest piece, on the interesting maneuver on the part of Axelrod in "snubbing" Netanyahu, is to be found here. D'Won will naturally launch a full-bore ground invasion upon Iran if his masters order him to do so, but the average white female voter - understandably tired of seeing their husbands, brothers, sons and even daughters killed and maimed by IEDs - still buy into the endless stream of lies and propaganda which emanates from the Ministry of Truth (which includes Faux-News).

Cleburne's theory dovetails in an interesting way with Whiskey's post above. The bottom line is that should Axelrod & Co. succeed in getting most white females of all ages (they've already got a lock on the younger ones) to vote for Zero, Mittens will be toast. As has been mentioned before, Mittens has literally zero percent of the groid vote, and will get one-third at best from the Mexicans and Asians.

Zenster said...

Mr. Rational: The dysgenic properties of Islam (inbreeding, purging of intelligence and innovation from the gene pool) would eliminate everything we regard as White from Whites anyway.

As is typically the case, when we agree it is completely.

Islam's wet dream of a worldwide caliphate is the equivalent of Global Cultural Genocide™.

Anonymous said...

Read the following and couldn't go on: "Diversity is reflected in the faces of the men and women passing by." Yikes, this is some sick material. Yet - lol - they don't make eye contact. Or do they in the South?

Van said...

What kind of strange society do we live in, where simply wanting to be left alone and desiring not be be around others is deemed a sin; yet forcing others to be in your presence, even publicly stating that no matter what they do you will follow them, is regarded as admirable?

I've made this point before, but I think it bears repeating:

Who is oppressed?

Blacks, who demand to be in the presence of whites, openly state that they will follow us wherever we go, are the beneficiaries of our wealth production, and commit enormous levels of violence against whites, are somehow the oppressed group?

Or whites, who often wish to escape the presence of blacks, are not allowed to publicly state this wish or the reasons for it, are the producers of the wealth that benefits blacks at the expense of our own families, and rarely commit violence against blacks, are somehow the oppressors?

And this arrangement is legally enforced.

How insane/stupid/ignorant/brainwashed/all four would one have to be to believe the white oppressor/black victim narrative?

Anonymous said...

.....wherever they are..whoever they follow.....wherever they go, blacks will bring nothing but mayhem, chaos, and destruction.

Anonymous said...

The black underclass is growing therefore expect more violent crime in the future. We keep on running away and they keep following us. I was at county criminal court building the other day and cannot believe the level of activity. It seems that the black criminal population continues to grow and keep pace with the growth of the black underclass. We keep feeding them (EBT cards) and housing them (section 8 vouchers) and they will continue to increase in population size. One day this madness will stop when America goes broke.

europeasant

eah said...

As I see it in the US Southwest the Mexicans have taken over and they are able.

Able to do what? Can you name a stable, prosperous, first world country in all of Central (including Mexico) and South America?

I think it's pretty clear: if you want to have a stable, prosperous, first world country, you can't have too many Hispanics around.

Mr. Rational said...

Bogolyubskiwhich white populations are growing and expanding?

The ones which rely on family for old-age support, rather than socialized retirement systems; expecting OPK (Other People's Kids) to support you in old age is an example of the tragedy of the commons.  One reason the USA is being flooded with immigrants is to "support Social Security", which drives up housing costs and taxes and exaggerates the effects of a lack of affordable family formation.

How would the practice of honor killings against white females who love to dishonor their ancestors by mating with groids be dysgenic?

If they had no welfare safety net to support their mulatto bastards, it would once again be its own punishment.  Starving may not dissuade the stupid, but it makes them a very good object lesson to the rest.

Bogolyubski said...

europeasant:
The black underclass is growing therefore expect more violent crime in the future. We keep on running away and they keep following us. I was at county criminal court building the other day and cannot believe the level of activity. It seems that the black criminal population continues to grow and keep pace with the growth of the black underclass. We keep feeding them (EBT cards) and housing them (section 8 vouchers) and they will continue to increase in population size. One day this madness will stop when America goes broke.

This cannot be emphasized enough. It also happens to be the reasoning (although I am not entirely in agreement with it) behind the segments of the alt-right advocating tacit support for D'Won's re-installment. They contend that Mittens will only delay the inevitable, while the magic negro will bring about the collapse faster. This much is true: Time is on the enemy's side, not ours. The sooner it goes down, the greater our chances of survival over the long term.

My own view is that neither Mittens nor the Magic Negro have any actual control over the agencies or policies which would have an effect upon when the implosion takes place. The Master Bananas would never allow such a thing in their little republick, and both of the nominal candidates work for them anyway.

Anonymous said...

The dysgenic properties of Islam (inbreeding, purging of intelligence and innovation from the gene pool) would eliminate everything we regard as White from Whites anyway.

Question: Is there an actual genetic component to Islam?

If Muslim societies have the characteristics stated above, are they creating a different kind of human being? Are Muslim societies fated to degenerate further as their people breed in certain directions? And if so, is the importation of Muslims into first world countries a formula for eventually wrecking the West from a genetic perspective (putting aside the militancy of Islamic politics)?

Another question:
I have seen the assertion made that Islam historically appealed to those of nomadic bent (the original Arab explosion from the Arabian peninsula, later adoption of Islam by Turkish tribes, etc.). And that since nomads have bred differently than agricultural-urban peoples over the millennia, the result is a different mindset, a different way of viewing the world.

All this goes beyond cultural factors, and may indicate that Muslims can not be assimilated into the modern world. They are actually a different breed of human, so to speak (plus or minus the outliers).

Anyone here have any thoughts or data on this?

Karen B said...

I can assure you not all white women are into beastiality.

MuayTyson said...

I have an interesting thought and maybe a better writer can sum it up better than me?

I think that genes could explain a lot a man will fight to his last breath to pass on his genetic material. A women must relent and be conquered to pass on her genetic material. In history the men males and male children were killed and the women were kept and brought into the fold of the conquers. If women fought their conquers they would not have their own tribe to mate with nor anyone else so they must relent in order to have children.

I think this gene issue also relates to blacks. Blacks are genetic scavenger/hunters to run triggers their prey response. Like any predator the best way to deal with an attack is to puff yourself up and make yourself more threatening to the predator. I don't think running is the answer.

On another topic I think the Amish have had a birth boom. There are definite gender roles and women listen to their husbands and fathers. Maybe starting a religion is the best chance for White rights?

randian said...

Islam enforces a distinct culture. Any Muslim to tries to sell the notion that "Islam" and "culture" are separate and distinct things is lying to you.

Islam has no genetic component per se, except to the extent that its preferred breeding practices create stupidity, and stupidity breeds submission (Islam means submission). Islamic areas will indeed continue to degenerate. It would be best if the West didn't help slow that down.

Islam appealed to the Arabic nomads because (a) it's an explicitly for-Arabs religion and (b) it condones the darkest impulses of the human mind. Theft, torture, rape, and murder are laudable and pious acts if done in the service of expanding the rule of Islam or putting down the infidel.

Islam appealed to infidels like the Turks because (a) it liberates the above dark impulses, and (b) converting takes you out of the system of dhimmitude which makes non-Muslims little more than slaves under Islamic rule. Millions have condemned their descendants to the darkness of Islam by converting when the yoke of dhimmitude was too much to bear.

Mr. Rational said...

If Muslim societies have the characteristics stated above, are they creating a different kind of human being?

Almost certainly.  England acquired its character through many generations of success being determined by things like skill at trade, navigation and manufacture (and the innovation required to get ahead of the pack), and the upper classes leaving more children than the poor.  Success in Islam appears to be based on things like family ties, skill at lying and intrigue, aggression and slavish obedience to religious authority.  It produces a completely different set of selective pressures, and selection always has an effect.

Are Muslim societies fated to degenerate further as their people breed in certain directions?

In a few years we'll know which genes have what effects on personality, and we'll be able to dig up older Islamic burials to compare to the current gene pool and see just how Islam has driven its victims to be better victims (and victimizers of others).

Zenster said...

Bogolyubski: America is actually being run for the benefit of those who created and made BRA possible, few if any of whom are black. Yes, the "leaders" of blacks like Holder, Sharpton, Obama, benefit personally - but at the end of the day they're merely houseniggas serving their masters - who are the ultimate beneficiaries. Blacks as a whole are not better off under BRA using any rational metric. [emphasis added]

Outstanding observation! The proof of the pudding being that American Blacks were more prosperous and had stronger nuculer famblies under Jim Crow than at any point thereafter.

And yes, those race-baiting wannabe warlord poverty pimps like Sharptoon and Jacksoff are happy to have their palms greased so that they can more enthusiastically stroke off the Vampire Elite™ masters who really control BRA.

Bogolyubski, I don't give a hoot if you're acting on my advice or not but several of your most recent comments have eschewed the typical degree of hyperbole to immensely positive effect. Please don't let me control your writing style (not that you ever would). Yet, at the same time, it's a genuine pleasure to see your torpedoes routinely hit below the waterline without any rooster-tail wake.

Zenster said...

Californian: There may be one reason to do a tour of duty in the military--to gain skills which might be necessary in the continuing Decline of the West. But otherwise, there is a point to be made here: I see more people withdrawing from service. People do not want to work for a system which is rigged against them. This may be one reason for the rise of the Militia movement. [emphasis added]

Shall we agree to call this The John Galt Effect™?

Zenster said...

Van: How insane/stupid/ignorant/brainwashed/all four would one have to be to believe the white oppressor/black victim narrative?

Yes.

Zenster said...

eah: Can you name a stable, prosperous, first world country in all of Central (including Mexico) and South America?

Mexico plus Central and most of South America are the Hispanic equivalents of Africa. You can find the lot of it, right down to the cannibalism, just not to such a flagrant degree; but it's all there.

Zenster said...

Anon (9/12 3:35 PM): Question: Is there an actual genetic component to Islam?

Absolutely.

If Muslim societies have the characteristics stated above, are they creating a different kind of human being? Are Muslim societies fated to degenerate further as their people breed in certain directions?

There is no indication otherwise.

And if so, is the importation of Muslims into first world countries a formula for eventually wrecking the West from a genetic perspective (putting aside the militancy of Islamic politics)?

To an almost undoubted degree, yes.

Another question:
I have seen the assertion made that Islam historically appealed to those of nomadic bent (the original Arab explosion from the Arabian peninsula, later adoption of Islam by Turkish tribes, etc.). And that since nomads have bred differently than agricultural-urban peoples over the millennia, the result is a different mindset, a different way of viewing the world.


This is totally correct. If you wish to understand why, please read “Face”, by Sarah Rosenberg. The model of high context versus low context cultures is one of the few that adequately explains just how alien Islam will always be along with the "inscrutable" aspect of Asian cultures for those in the West.

All this goes beyond cultural factors, and may indicate that Muslims can not be assimilated into the modern world. They are actually a different breed of human, so to speak (plus or minus the outliers).

Anyone here have any thoughts or data on this?


If you promise to ignore its incredibly stilted opening paragraphs, please consider reading my first major online essay, "What the Hedgehog Knows". An excerpt:

Muslims have devised so many inviolable laws and regulations such that there no longer exist any avenues to circumvent even the most absurd or ridiculous of conventions. Lashed to its own mainmast, Islam remains enraptured by the siren call of excessive spiritual purity. The entirely demagnetized moral compass held by most Muslims bestows few favors upon those who escape, struggling ashore to the modern world.

Much like Scylla, Muslims devour their young with bomb vests and perform wanton human sacrifices by means of global terrorism; as with Charybdis, Islam’s all-embracing nature gorges itself upon human suffering and vomits forth a swirling torrent of misery whose final vortex is all too often a premature and violent death.

Islam has a hydra-like quality of sprouting even more oppression in response to any given assault upon it. Societal cannibalism and human sacrifice have been Islam’s preferred way since its inception. In fact, this cultural degradation of the Bedouin tribes existed even before Mohammad. He simply found a way to harness and use these aspects of desert tribal life to build a power base for himself. Thus, Islam’s eternally warring nature reflects a brutal cultural bias that is fundamentally Hobbesian.


Indeed, when you inquire about how "that since nomads have bred differently than agricultural-urban peoples over the millennia, the result is a different mindset", you could not be more right.

Saudi Arabia's ultra-puritanical Wahhabist monster raving loons descend from exactly those same Bedouin nomads and, therefore, regard anything that cannot be readily transported by camel as utterly decadent and grossly materialist.

Trust that their (now, thankfully, dead) collective prodigal son, Osama bin Laden, would take such desert-borne austerity another step further and boldly declare iced drinks to be a decadent luxury despite broiling daytime temperatures.

Does it require any great leap of imagination to think that consciously fathering almost assuredly retarded spawn would inspire any sort of compunction in the sort of mind set that readily encourages offspring to strap on a bomb vest?

Bogolyubski said...

Randian:
Islam enforces a distinct culture. Any Muslim to tries to sell the notion that "Islam" and "culture" are separate and distinct things is lying to you.

Islam has no genetic component per se, except to the extent that its preferred breeding practices create stupidity, and stupidity breeds submission (Islam means submission). Islamic areas will indeed continue to degenerate. It would be best if the West didn't help slow that down.

Islam appealed to the Arabic nomads because (a) it's an explicitly for-Arabs religion and (b) it condones the darkest impulses of the human mind. Theft, torture, rape, and murder are laudable and pious acts if done in the service of expanding the rule of Islam or putting down the infidel.

Islam appealed to infidels like the Turks because (a) it liberates the above dark impulses, and (b) converting takes you out of the system of dhimmitude which makes non-Muslims little more than slaves under Islamic rule. Millions have condemned their descendants to the darkness of Islam by converting when the yoke of dhimmitude was too much to bear.


One of the best HBD analyses of the religion of luv-n-peace I've seen. Horrible as dhimmitude is, it's nevertheless more survivable than what the oligarchs running the show in the west have in store for YT. The Greeks emerged from beneath the Islamic boot, as did the Spaniards. Look at South Africa to see what the big bananas' plans are for Europe and the USSA (total eradication by miscegenation and outright slaughter). If the Moose-limbs could be turned to directing their considerable savagery at our real enemies (who also happen to be their real enemies, despite all the smiles and endorsements we see at present), we might have to tolerate them for a while. I hope we don't have to resort to such a hellish alliance, but when you're being targeted for eradication.....it can't be taken off the table.

Jay Santos said...

Regarding those who commented on the current disproportionate impact of female sensibilities on our culture, it's clearly had a huge influence on this society.

Women are more concerned with the victim. And we are a culture that is relentlessly focused on the "victim". I'll skip any attempt to document that, do your own work.

Problem is our global adversaries, be they Islam, the Chinese, or the waves of "hispanics" about to overwhelm us, have no such calming female influence.

In an aggressive, physical conflict those female influences are not going to work out well for us.

Thanks sweetie.

Anonymous said...

Im in britain i like the piece you wrote its true.I have seen a real proliferation in my home town of mixed race couples invariably white female black male.I also think this is strongly media driven too all negative portrayals of males in either tv ads or programmes are always white males.there are no negative portrayals of black males i think some white females are influenced by this message.Also in our education system here women are taught that they were oppressed by white patriarchy this matches perfectly with the narrative they are taught about slavery and white males oppression of blacks it creates an affinty against a common oppressor the white male.To these women it also appears to me that the celebrity industry is driven mostly by females who tend to emulate the behaviour of certain celebs, like cheryll cole who have black partners its like wanting the latest bag the celebs carrying its like the latest accessorie.I also think some white females do it to get at white males for what they were taught in school they had done to females in the past.The problem is they are totally oblivious to what it is they are really doing which is contributing to the demise of their own race,whats sadder is even if you explained it they wouldnt care

Geraldo the Fearless said...

Whiskey said: The constant White flight, the constant White submission tax-wise and legally and culturally and socially, is all because half of all Whites really LOATHE White guys. And to get laid, a good number of White guys mumble a protest at best. Whites are divided, and that's why its happening. Why it happened.

You make some good points about women being led astray, but I don't believe White women actually loathe white guys the way you think. Why do 90%+ of white women date exclusively white men? Why are so many women who have regular contact with blacks DISGUSTED by them?

Why do 95% of high profile celebrity women only date white men? Why is Taylor Swifts love object in EVERY SINGLE one of her videos a white man?

Why are the top 16 of the top 17 singles on the Billboard Hot 100 white artists, including 9 white male artists, the whitest the top of the chart has been in literally decades? These charts are driven by young white teenagers/women. Five songs are white women (including mostly white/part Mexican Demi Lovato) who have white male love interests in their videos.

Don't get me wrong, there are strains of antipathy toward white men that exists among white women. But on a subconscious level they have an innate genetic attraction to white men. That is the only logical explanation, since mainstream media tries to convince white women that miscegenation is good. They resist not out of a sense of loyalty to white men, but out of physical dislike for other races, and hereditary subconscious impulses that white characteristics in a man are desirable traits.

Van said...

Santos: "In an aggressive, physical conflict those female influences are not going to work out well for us."

In such a conflict, that other female instinct will kick in - the need for protection against outside threats. Those blacks, Mexicans, and Muslims will stop being "victims" rather quickly.

Anonymous said...

Those who pollute the gene pool ought not be allowed back in. Mudsharks have committed themselves to the path of disgenics. Let us honor that decision, and insist that they do to. Africa is calling, you Heidi Klum wannabes.

Anonymous said...

Whiskey thinks that because he lives out in lala land/the land of fruit and nuts/orange County California. The women here are beautiful, but shallow. Their racial preference out here is anything except blacks (though they don't say that). What used to be the gold coast is now a cesspool of miscegination. White women choose white men because they are the best choice in most cases, not because of loyalty or discriminating tastes.
Left Coast White Guy
I know this because I live in north orange county myself.

Anonymous said...

Success can’t live again in America until people dare say the reason Gwinnett County was once the fastest growing county in the nation, and why it now is failing is because of race.

barackolypsenow said...

The results of an NBC-Wall Street Journal poll came out recently and got very little play in the media. The poll’s results were race-related and quite startling. While the media has jumped on anything involving race quite readily during the Obama presidency – and even before – apparently this survey didn’t produce the type of front page race-talk the media likes to report on.

According to the NBC and Wall Street Journal’s poll conducted in August of 2012, 0% – that’s “zero percent”, not a typo – of African-Americans support the GOP presidential candidate-to-be Mitt Romney in the presidential election of 2012.

The media keeps suggesting that the racism regarding candidates has to do with whites not wanting to vote for a black man, even though Barack Obama won a presidential election with a great amount of white support – obviously – or he wouldn’t have won an election in the country where the vast majority of people are white.

What the media isn’t talking about is any survey such as the NBC-Wall Street results which say that there are basically no black supporters for the Caucasian candidate, Mitt Romney, in 2012. From August 16 through August 20, one-thousand people were surveyed and not even 1% of America’s blacks in that survey’s resulting data could say they support Mitt Romney.

Granted, African-Americans usually support the Democrats. But even the unpopular Republican candidate of 2008, Sen. John McCain, managed to come up with 4% support from America’s blacks. George W. Bush did even somewhat better than that.

It is reported that President Barack Obama currently has 94% of black Americans’ voters’ support. Obviously, a high percentage of white voters are supporting Obama too, or the currently-close presidential race wouldn’t be close at all. In other words, the reverse of this poll – which would say that 94% of white American voters support the white candidate, Mitt Romney – can’t possibly be true. After all, all the polls claim that Obama and Romney are running a close race at this time – though some say Obama is a couple of points up while one or two say Romney is a couple of points up.

So, if there is any racism in the 2012 election, it is clear where it’s coming from. What isn’t clear is why the media is afraid to capitalize on the story when they have been so willing to claim white racism at most every opportunity throughout the Obama term as president.

Another interesting point is questioning why the support for Obama among African-Americans is so strong. Black persons’ economics have reportedly worsened during the Obama administration over the past four years. The extremely poor unemployment rate among African-Americans has worsened during Obama’s term, as it is now estimated to be up to approximately 15%. The Obama economy has caused people’s need for federal assistance, such as food stamps, to increase to 50% of all Americans – with a great deal, but not a majority, of those in need being black persons. The housing situation in America which has had an extremely negative impact on minorities in this country is reportedly worse than it was in the mid-1930s during the Great Depression. Crime and murders in the big cities are still atrocious, quite often in the minority areas of those cities, such as in Obama’s own hometown of Chicago.

With all this factual data – not propaganda – created during President Obama’s term, it is incomprehensible to think that 94% of African-Americans are still supporting Obama and 0% is supporting Romney – unless one thinks like a racist and only vote for one’s own race.

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