Sunday, September 16, 2012

In the End, Treason is a Matter of Dates: "City Journal" Claims Northern Cities Failed Blacks

The Great Migration = Manifest Destruction
Daniel DiSalvo, a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute, has contributed an article to the 2012 Summer issue of City Journal that should cause any individual who considers that publication a source of illiberal thinking great consternation. Titled, "The Great Remigration: Blacks are abandoning the northern cities that failed them" one Mr. DiSalvo would have us believe that  Detroit, Boston, Chicago, Gary, Cleveland, Cincinnati, and other places above the Mason-Dixon failed Black people.

In reality, it was what we at SBPDL have dubbed "Manifest Destruction" that failed the northern cities: the mass movement of Black people overwhelmed these cities, with the fall of Detroit a direct result of this 'great migration' Mr. DiSalvo champions. Why don't we just let Mr. DiSalvo's City Journal article speak for itself?:
A century ago, nine out of ten black Americans lived in the South, primarily in formerly Confederate states where segregation reigned. Then, in the 1920s, blacks began heading north, both to escape the racism of Jim Crow and to seek work as southern agriculture grew increasingly mechanized. “From World War I to the 1970s, some six million black Americans fled the American South for an uncertain existence in the urban North and West,” writes journalist Isabel Wilkerson, the author of The Warmth of Other Suns. Principal destinations in the Great Migration, as the exodus came to be called, included Washington, D.C. (the first stop on the bus), Chicago, Detroit, and New York City. The Great Migration had tremendous political implications, both good and bad. It helped spur the civil rights movement, but it also trapped many blacks in urban ghettos.

More recently, however, the Great Migration has reversed itself, with blacks returning to the South. In a broad sense, this reversal fits within a larger demographic shift among Americans in general, who are moving from the Rust Belt to the Sun Belt. But the new black migration is nevertheless significant: not only could it portend major changes to the nation’s politics; it also testifies to the liberal North’s failure to integrate African-Americans into the mainstream. As the historian Walter Russell Mead has observed, that failure is “the most devastating possible indictment of the 20th century liberal enterprise in the United States.”

In the early seventies, the New York Times noticed that between 1970 and 1973, for the first time, more blacks had moved from the North to the South than vice versa. The movement has continued apace. Last year, the Times described the South’s share of black population growth as “about half the country’s total in the 1970s, two-thirds in the 1990s and three-quarters in the decade that just ended.” Many of the migrants are “buppies”—young, college-educated, upwardly mobile black professionals—and older retirees. Over the last two decades, according to the census, the states with the biggest gains in their black populations have been Georgia, South Carolina, Virginia, Texas, and Florida; New York, Illinois, and Michigan have seen the greatest losses. Many of the new black migrants are moving to the South’s urban and suburban hot spots, rather than the small towns that their grandparents or great-grandparents left behind generations ago. Today, 57 percent of American blacks live in the South—the highest percentage in a half-century.

Much of the migration has been urban-to-urban. During the first decade of the new century, according to Brookings Institution demographer Bill Frey, the cities making the biggest gains in black population were Atlanta, Dallas, and Houston. Meanwhile, New York City’s black population fell by 67,709, Chicago’s by 58,225, Detroit’s by 37,603, and Los Angeles’s by 85,025. But plenty of the migrants have been moving from cities to suburbs. “By 2000 there were fifty-seven metropolitan areas with at least 50,000 black suburbanites, compared to just thirty-three in 1980,” notes sociologist Andrew Wiese. The 2010 census revealed that 51 percent of blacks in the 100 largest metro areas lived in the suburbs. As journalist Joel Garreu describes it, suburbia now includes a “large, churchgoing, home-owning, childbearing, back-yard barbecuing, traffic-jam-cursing black middle class remarkable for the very ordinariness with which its members go about their classically American suburban affairs.”
The Great Migration Manifest Destruction didn't trap Black people in "urban ghettos" as Mr. DiSalvo opines; Black dysfunction, the same of which is found in the cities of the south where Blacks lingered behind, is the reason any area that is all-Black turns into a proverbial "ghetto."

But Black people are absolved from all wrong-doing in America (the narrative of continued white oppression inhibiting Black success must be repeated ad nauseam), especially that of their design. Mr. DiSalvo, after all, wants to continue to receive his invitations to the top social events in New York City.

By a strange twist of fate, the Atlanta Journal Constitution published a story that cuts to the heart of the problem of what DiSalvo has called "the great remigration" of Blacks back from the northern cities that failed them.

The verdict?

A  perplexing coincidence : these Blacks migrants from the northern cities they helped devastate are now poised to import that same economic ruin back south [Treading water with upside down mortgages, Christopher Quinn, 9-16-2012]:
Marquita Shealey is having tough time after the Lithonia house she bought lost more than half its value in two years.
The loss put the 29-year-old first-time buyer in the same position as about 70 percent of metro Atlantans who are younger than 4o with a mortgage. She is upside down, or owes more on the mortgage than the worth of the home, according to California real estate and data firm Zillow.
For younger buyers, especially those trying to relocate or just sell a home, it is a financial hardship that ripples through the economy, cutting into sales at department stores, stifling hiring and and pulling down other home values.
In Shealey’s case, she can’t sell and take a loss and has also suffered some other financial hits, such as expensive home repairs and a split with the man with whom she bought the house. So she is stuck in a home that suppresses her ability to flex with new financial constraints. She cut back spending and is considering pulling her daughter out of private school.
“I thought once I closed, everything would be smooth sailing,” Shealey said. “Now everything is on me.”
Zillow economist Stan Humphries said younger buyers typically paid low down payments, have little equity in the home and are more likely to have purchased in the last ten years as home prices hit a peak. Home values dropped on average about 35 percent here since 2006.

About half of metro Atlanta mortgage holders over 40 are underwater, he said. If older owners don’t have a disaster such as a job loss and had no plans to move, they are less affected because they can wait for prices to come back, Humphries said.
The national average of underwater owners is 31 percent. Metro Atlanta has been hit harder than many cities by the bursting housing-and-loan bubble.
Clayton is hit hardest in the region. It is in the worst 1 percent of counties nationally, Zillow’s numbers say, with 83 percent of mortgages underwater. Even well-off Forsyth, which had an $87,605 median income in 2011, is in the lowest 20 percent of counties.
County/    % mortgages underwater/median home value*
Clayton 83 $45,200
Paulding 69 $83,400
Douglas 69 $75,600
Gwinnett 58 $117,100
DeKalb 56 $96,300
Fulton 47 $139,500
Cobb 46 $141,800
Cherokee 46 $146,900
Forsyth 36 $204,200
Fayette 34 $177,000
Wait a second? Clayton County has a median home value of $45,000? Would you believe that in 1990, Clayton County was 75 percent white; now, it is nearly 70 percent Black.

The falling property value in Clayton County is but a reflection of the type of community these new residents can create.

Recall that in 2010, a home sold in 90 percent Black Detroit went for the median price of $7,500:
Some might say Jon Brumit overpaid when he stumped up $100 (£65) for a whole house. Drive through Detroit neighbourhoods once clogged with the cars that made the city the envy of America and there are homes to be had for a single dollar.
You find these houses among boarded-up, burnt-out and rotting buildings lining deserted streets, places where the population is shrinking so fast entire blocks are being demolished to make way for urban farms.
"I was living in Chicago and a friend told me that houses in Detroit could be had for $500," said Brumit, a financially strapped artist who thought he had little prospect of owning his own property. "I said if you hear of anything just a little cheaper let me know. Within a week he emails me a photo of a house for $100. I thought that's just crazy. Why not? It's a way to cut our expenses way down and kind of open up a lot of time for creative projects because we're not working to pay the rent."
Houses on sale for a few dollars are something of an urban legend in the US on the back of the mortgage crisis that drove millions of people from their homes. But in Detroit it is no myth.
One in five houses now stand empty in the city that launched the automobile age, forged America's middle-class and blessed the world with Motown.
Detroit has been in decline for decades; its falling population is now well below a million – half of its 1950 peak. But the recent mortgage crisis and the fall of the big car makers into bankruptcy has pushed the town into a realm unique among big cities in America.
A third of the population are unemployed. Property prices have fallen 80% or more in large parts of Detroit over the last three years. The average price of a home sold in the city last year has been put at $7,500 (£4,900).
On the opposite side of Lawley Street Jim Feltner and his workers were clearing out a property seized by a bank. "I used to be a building contractor. I was buying up places and doing them up. Now I empty out foreclosures. I do one or two of these a day all over the city," he said. "I've been in Detroit 40 years and I've watched the peak up to $100,000 for houses that right now aren't worth more than $20,000 tops. I own a bunch of properties. I have 10 rentals and I can't get nothing for them, and they're beautiful homes."
The devaluation of once prized real estate in Detroit (well, when it was owned by white people) is the unmentionable legacy of the migration of Blacks to northern cities - the same thing happened in Cleveland, Gary, and in parts of Chicago - and it is this same legacy they will import with them back south.





80 comments:

Anonymous said...

Giving any group of people freedom from responsibility for their own failures and misdeeds is very dangerous.

Giving it to black people is downright suicidal, for them and everyone else around them.

OnMainStreet said...

~"City Journal" Claims Northern Cities Failed Blacks~

Northern Cities Failed BECAUSE of Blacks

Anonymous said...

I live in the south, good god please, send us NO MORE BLACKS!

Anonymous said...

"In Shealey’s case, she can’t sell and take a loss and has also suffered some other financial hits, such as expensive home repairs and a split with the man with whom she bought the house. So she is stuck in a home that suppresses her ability to flex with new financial constraints. She cut back spending and is considering pulling her daughter out of private school."

This genius bought a house with a man who she was NOT married to.
She also has an out-of-wedlock child.

Her biggest problem (which this article neglects to mention) is her habit of making atrocious lifestyle choices.

Mutant Swarm said...

Not surprisingly, City Journal didn't publish my comment:

"The northern cities didn't fail blacks. Blacks picked them clean like a swarm of locusts, and are now headed back to where they came from."

Robert S. Oculus III said...

The older I get, the more convinced I am that one answer to the Black Question is to move to the country. I don't mean suburbia -- I mean the country, rural areas, areas with no amenities whatsoever. It is my experience that most blacks simply will not live in such areas. No convenience stores, laundromats, payday loan shops, welfare offices = no blacks. Add to this the fact that many blacks do not own a motor vehicle and need public tansportation to survive and one begins to see how living beyond the farthest 7-11 could do much to create a black-free space for Whites.

Another advantage to country life is its remoteness from the agencies of BRA. Blacks are nurtured and protected by BRA and without that nurture (amenities) and that protection (civil rights laws and their attendant enforcement apparatus) blacks are cut off from their life support system. This lack of black life support likely makes life in rural America an uncomfortable notion for many Negroes.

(Obviously, there are rural areas that are thickly populated by blacks, e.g., the Mississippi Delta, back-country Georgia, etc. Obviously, when I speak of "rural areas" I mean areas not already overrun by Negroes.)

And then there's the law. Most rural law enforcement personnel are a) white and b) savvy to the realities of black people. This means that c) they are much more likely to be on your side in any run-in with Negroes. Another plus for the country.

I'll be honest: I am a lifelong city dweller. I do not enjoy the insects, the filth, and the boredom of country living. I have absolutely zero interest in farming, preferring the benefits and conveniences of urban life. But as the Negro hordes overrun the cities, and as BRA's willingness to use power on behalf of Negroes grows ever greater, even I am planning a retreat to the sticks. My personal "getaway" will be in the rural area of a western European country, an area with a Negro population of essentially zero. I have no fantasies of rural self-sufficiency; I simply want to live in a place where one can go months and months without so much as seeing a black face.

And then there's the long term. Someday soon BRA is going to clamp down on people like us, and we need to start thinking about how we are going to respond when it does. One way might be to form rural "cells" of resistance -- cells which will exist outside the reach and ken of BRA. When considering the methods by which an insurgent force can succeed against a powerful invader, the example of the Vietnam war is instructive. The Viet Cong did not beat the American army by slugging it out with them in the streets of Saigon. Instead, they struck from the sticks, dashing in to jab the enemy, then fading into the brush.

We beat the Viet Cong militarily at Tet, but only by using overwhelming force -- a force BRA can no longer muster, and certainly cannot extend across a country as big as the USA. When the Clampdown comes, BRA will only be able to hold the cities. Perhaps we should begin considering the ways in which an "American Cong" could use that fact to our advantage.

toughgod said...

There is a possible bright side to all of this. The history of North America is a history of great migrations. There were several waves of people over the Bering land bridge followed by several waves of European immigrants centuries later. The solution to the underclass problem is to entice them to migrate away. In The Grapes of Wrath and In Dubious Battle, John Steinbeck describes the way that handbills and newspaper articles were used to entice poor midwestern farmers to move west and become fruit pickers. Sooner or later a similar effort will evolve to entice the underclass to move away from desirable areas. Paul has written about the day the EBT card no longer works. Perhaps the day after that day is the day thet the whole underclass begins moving to Canada.

Zenster said...

You beat me to it, OnMainStreet. That little "blame Whitey" ration of bullshit was shrieking for some modification.

More recently, however, the Great Migration has reversed itself, with blacks returning to the South.

Talk about "pigeons coming home to roost"!

Anon (9/16 7:57 PM): I live in the south, good god please, send us NO MORE BLACKS!

We're not sending them, we're returning them. You'll get no sympathy from me. Southerners were the ones who imported the most Blacks. They can now live with the consequences of their handiwork. Do us all a big favor and reenact Jim Crow.

But the new black migration is nevertheless significant: not only could it portend major changes to the nation’s politics; it also testifies to the liberal North’s failure to integrate African-Americans into the mainstream.

What a knee-slapper! As if Northern Liberals ever wanted anything to do with Blacks beyond using them as a wedge to fracture middle class White communities. A "failure to integrate" my ass. Someone let me know when all those Northern Liberals migrate down South to live cheek by jowl with their beloved darkies.

As the historian Walter Russell Mead has observed, that failure is “the most devastating possible indictment of the 20th century liberal enterprise in the United States.”

Okay, so we finally got the indictment handed down. When are formal charges going to be pressed against these anti-White Liberals for actively destroying Western civilization? Isn't it about time to hang that albatross around their duplicitous necks?

In the early seventies, the New York Times noticed that between 1970 and 1973, for the first time, more blacks had moved from the North to the South than vice versa.

Ah, the joys of self-segregation in action.

A perplexing coincidence: these Blacks migrants from the northern cities they helped devastate are now poised to import that same economic ruin back south…

Time to buy stocks in white bedsheets, lumber and gasoline.

Marquita Shealey is having tough time after the Lithonia house she bought lost more than half its value in two years.

The loss put the 29-year-old first-time buyer in the same position as about 70 percent of metro Atlantans who are younger than 40 with a mortgage. She is upside down, or owes more on the mortgage than the worth of the home, according to California real estate and data firm Zillow.


Lack of forward time orientation claims yet another helpless Black victim. Too bad you can't fix stupid.

For younger buyers, especially those trying to relocate or just sell a home, it is a financial hardship that ripples through the economy, cutting into sales at department stores, stifling hiring and and pulling down other home values.

And then there's that niggling little fact that they also happen to be Black.

The national average of underwater owners is 31 percent. Metro Atlanta has been hit harder than many cities by the bursting housing-and-loan bubble.

"Women and minorities hit hardest!" I swear, you can set your watch by this professional victim nonsense.

The devaluation of once prized real estate in Detroit (well, when it was owned by white people) is the unmentionable legacy of the migration of Blacks to northern cities - the same thing happened in Cleveland, Gary, and in parts of Chicago - and it is this same legacy they will import with them back south.

At least the South has its own legacy of knowing how to deal with TNB. See above stock tip for details.

Anonymous said...

And yet one wonders with Detroit practically giving homes away , there is not mad rush on people going to buy them.

Gee, I wonder why?

And I agree with Anon @ 7:57. No more, please.

Northern Refugee said...

PK put a quote by a Negro politician a few days ago to the effect of "No matter where whites go, we will follow." Well, whites started fleeing "failed" Northern cities in the 1970s for greener pastures (and lower taxes) down south. Now they are following us again. Detriot, Gary, Chicago, Cleveland, New York, etc, are picked clean. There is nothing left to loot and the fiscal capacity of the host has been exceeded (Illinois is essentially bankrupt, and NYS is in a constant fiscal crisis for instance). But there are lots of shiny new subdivisions and apartment complexes down south just waiting for a little "diversity". Also, Hispanics in cities like LA and NYC are cleansing the blacks from places like Harlem and Compton.

Lastly, I would like to know what all these "buppies" do. I am an engineer, and have met maybe 2 black engineers in my career (one of which was an obvious diversity hire). Ditto for doctors and nurses and scientists. Are they all coming down here for gub'mint jobs?

Greg Fannin said...

Zenster:

"Southerners were the ones who imported the most Blacks"

Revise history much? The NORTH had all the ocean-going fleet, The NORTH brought them all here (Well, they had help from a handful of other nations), The NORTH made fortunes off the slave trade ... yet it's the SOUTH that is expected to accept all the blame. The SOUTH used them (as did the NORTH), BUT the SOUTH did NOT import them!

Why is the NORTH always given a free pass on slavery? They imported much of the slave class, they used slave labor to build the early Northern cities, they sold slaves to the SOUTH.

SORRY, NORTH, YOUR FREE PASS HAS EXPIRED!

When you purchase defective products, you'd like to return it to the seller, correct?

Anonymous said...

Northern Refugee, I believe you are correct that the "buppie" segment would largely be feeding from the gubmint teat. My sister works for DOE and the place is crawling with jigs who are constantly working on more degrees in order to bump up their salaries. " Gotta get that education" is their mantra, and they are reimbursed by the agancy , aka the taxpayer, for mickey mouse Master's degrees from crap schools. Many get online degrees from DeVry, etc. Where I work, the place is full of advanced degreed darkies who are dumber than the Salvadoran office cleaners, and not nearly as pleasant.

Ray Scissom said...

Nobody seems to mention the obvious problem. White people are no stranger to migration, but we seem to go about it quite differently. We migrate to an area, any area, and set up civilization. We turn the local resources, whatever they may be, into industry that creates jobs and prosperity. We build and organize a structure of government and provide necessary services that make the new community desirable. We do this with the intention of making the lives of our children and families better. We rarely fail in our continuing quest to achieve a high standard of living.

Black people migrate like locusts. They move into an area and disrupt progress by consuming what they can and contribute basically nothing to the community. They exist as hunter/gatherers like their people have for thousands of years. Wherever we find them on the planet, we find them poorly nourished, suffering from disease that is cured by simply not shitting in your drinking water, and we find a violent society that emulates primate behavior.

They are not sufficiently evolved to live among us, and no amount of taxpayer redistribution schemes or handouts can compensate for this. For the same reasons that feral cats and dogs cannot be domesticated to live safely among our children, black people cannot be trained to do the same. The sooner we place ships on shores and begin pushing them on at the end of pitchforks and rifles, the better. If they want to migrate south, Africa is just a little bit further.

I haven't had much time to write/comment lately, but I couldn't pass this one up. I'll be back to normal soon enough, but I'm enjoying all of the articles and comments without participating much for the time being.

RS

Anonymous said...

There's a strong indication that Romney will lose the election. I know don't believe the despicable, perfidious, and controlled media, but if Romney loses it's the end for Whites in this country no matter where you are.

Mutant Swarm said...

Anonymous said...
There's a strong indication that Romney will lose the election. I know don't believe the despicable, perfidious, and controlled media, but if Romney loses it's the end for Whites in this country no matter where you are. (Emphasis added.)

September 17, 2012 8:04 AM
______________________________

To quote that great sage John Belushi, "Nothing is over until WE SAY IT IS!"

For White people, to survive and to endure is to win.

MB said...

Thanks, Greg Fannin, for refuting that particular disingenuous lie.

"Anonymous said...

I live in the south, good god please, send us NO MORE BLACKS!"

Agreed. Let us come up with some new industrial idea for the north, that it may reverse this devastating trend. They deserve the cheap help and we deserve the solitude.



MB said...

" Nobody seems to mention the obvious problem. White people are no stranger to migration, but we seem to go about it quite differently. We migrate to an area, any area, and set up civilization. We turn the local resources, whatever they may be, into industry that creates jobs and prosperity. We build and organize a structure of government and provide necessary services that make the new community desirable. We do this with the intention of making the lives of our children and families better. We rarely fail in our continuing quest to achieve a high standard of living.

Black people migrate like locusts. They move into an area and disrupt progress by consuming what they can and contribute basically nothing to the community. They exist as hunter/gatherers like their people have for thousands of years. Wherever we find them on the planet, we find them poorly nourished, suffering from disease that is cured by simply not shitting in your drinking water, and we find a violent society that emulates primate behavior.

They are not sufficiently evolved to live among us, and no amount of taxpayer redistribution schemes or handouts can compensate for this. For the same reasons that feral cats and dogs cannot be domesticated to live safely among our children, black people cannot be trained to do the same. The sooner we place ships on shores and begin pushing them on at the end of pitchforks and rifles, the better. If they want to migrate south, Africa is just a little bit further.

I haven't had much time to write/comment lately, but I couldn't pass this one up. I'll be back to normal soon enough, but I'm enjoying all of the articles and comments without participating much for the time being.

RS

September 17, 2012 7:52 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There's a strong indication that Romney will lose the election. I know don't believe the despicable, perfidious, and controlled media, but if Romney loses it's the end for Whites in this country no matter where you are.

September 17, 2012 8:04 AM"

A people who have accepted their own subjugation to another people are shot. As if Romney would have it any other way.

Withhold your Republican votes. They are only votes of confidence in a deliberately anti-White system being sold to you by salesmen Obama and Romney.

Reject both.

Discard said...

Anon at 8:04 AM: If Romney loses, or if Romney wins and does nothing about immigration, the GOP will never hold the White House again. I wonder if they know that? Or do they just figure to live off the bonuses they get for selling out the country?

Anonymous said...

I love the way "Great Migration" is reverently capitalized, as if it were the Exodus.

Blacks have become America's chronic teenagers: unable to live on their own, but moodily demanding special treatment at home through tantrums and acting out, and attacking the parents who continue to pay their bills and feed and clothe them.

josh said...

The waste that niggers entail. Extraordinary waste.

Anonymous said...

The article could have been shortened up to say that Blacks have been migrating out of Black run cities.

Anonymous said...

Whenever I read "City Journal" in the past it was always accompanied by some declaration by a conservative rino that this was the best website for our values. But the articles always seemed to be the George Will, Krauthamer type. To me they were always disappointing and sanctomonious. I gave up on CJ a long time ago. Sulla

Anonymous said...

I live in Southwestern Pennsylvania near Pittsburgh in Allegheny county.

We have treaded water since heavy industry went down even though the Pittsburgh area is run largely by the Democrat party. Because we are still mostly white.

But it is unbelievable that the local papers - Post-Gazette and even the Tribune-Review often have articles lamenting the lack of "diversity". And of course our local PBS outlet has lots of stuff on the wonderfulness of many cultures mixing. Their premier "diversity" show used to be called "Black Horizons" is now called "Horizons" - it now includes all the mongrels.

The most comic part of life, again if it were not so tragic in that a white person might be killed, are the constant "marches against violence" after a spate of non-caucasians killin other non-caucasians.

We even had some Vietnamese guy running a non-licensed slaughter house. He evidently was killing chipmunks, squirrels, rabbits, pigeons and God knows what else. Who he was selling this to is unknown.

The TV news has it down pat in handling these "diversity" upsetting items. They flash an image and read the script at a speed close to those disclaimers at the end of commercials.

So even here we can't escape this cancer and lead a normal life and even worse we have to, in public, say "Oh I love having cancer; it just makes life more - er "vibrant."

Midwestern said...

"This lack of black life support likely makes life in rural America an uncomfortable notion for many Negroes."

Robert, I have been planning to move to a very rural town too. I have lived around blacks for my entire life and would like to find a place where I don't have to witness their degeneracy.

However, I have visited a few small towns to have a look around recently, and when I speak to the locals, they lament the fact that they are so "lily white" and suffer from a lack of diversity. Some of these small towns are even importing small numbers of African refugees and Mexican illegals. They are running marketing campaigns to "move our small town into modern times" and promote themselves as friendly and open to newcomers.

Having never lived around Negroes, they have been brainwashed (by TV, no doubt) that blacks are all just like the Huxtables and have become civilized since the Civil Rights movement. They think blacks are just like the fake TV blacks - middle class, clean, married, educated, and pleasant.

I don't want to be stuck living with a bunch of clueless county aging white folks who are ashamed of their white heritage, and who will be sitting ducks for the coming storm of diversity. They are signing up for their own destruction. I have lived near the black undertow, and my neighborhood has been picked clean and is now on the upswing with gentrification.

I think I would rather be rebuilding from black destruction right now than to be the next hit in its path.

I see that diversity is moving north away from the inner-city for new pickings. The white taxpayer-funded Housing and Urban Development is the vehicle that Negroes use to loot these small but resource-rich white rural communities. There are plenty of empty 3-bedroom vinyl houses to fill with Section-8 blacks. Lots of schools in decline and looking for new students to fill the seats and to take advantage of the state money that follows them.

I don't think that any small town is safe. I believe that with their presence alone, blacks could create a ghetto in a rural Indiana corn field.

Zenster said...

Ray Scissom: I haven't had much time to write/comment lately, but I couldn't pass this one up. I'll be back to normal soon enough, but I'm enjoying all of the articles and comments without participating much for the time being.

Dang nabbit, Ray! You've been missed.

Zenster said...

MB: Reject both.

And exactly how does that assure 0bama's swirling exit from the Oval Toilet™?

Hell, I detest a silver-spoon, culturally Marxist, PCMC (Politically Correct Multi-Culturalist), Ivy League clone like Romney as much as the next guy.

I just happen to detest 0bama a whole lot more.

Rejecting "both" gets 0bama reelected. FLUSH THE TOILET.

Keep flushing it EVERY FOUR YEARS until someone worthy of two terms shows up. If not, keep on flushing it so that BOTH PARTIES can no longer delude themselves, or the American people, that they have the voting public's interests in mind.

Bush 2.0 should be the last two-term president for a long, long time.

YIH said...

Another reason you don't want African immigrants: African cuisine.
BTW Zenster, someone already posted the obligatory Caddyshack clip to the comments there.

ATBOTL said...

City Journal is a safety valve, just like Rush Limbaugh. It's more literate and comes closer to the truth than talk radio, but it is still the same act.

Anonymous said...

...they are less affected because they can wait for prices to come back...

The prices won't be coming back.

Anonymous said...

Well, as this entire blog makes clear over and over, there is nothing standing in the way of blaming blacks for the pitiable conditions they leave in their train but simple-minded politeness. And the irony of this is that the politeness is never reciprocated; in the case of Detroit, Coleman Young's vitriol towards white Americans was so extreme it could be called insurrectionary. And as I see it the "migration" back to the Southland is much more like a strange defeated army retreating than any sort of motivated return with the hope of improvement.
The age of the defeat of the African American is just hitting its stride. Soon, their plight will elicit only yawns, as the nation comes to grips with the seriously dangerous implications of Hispanic incursion. I don't think much time will be lost investigating and reinvestigating black failure. Our country doesn't have the time or resources to do much about these poor people.We have Asian competitors who want us permanently in second place and who also care nothing for the malaise we are in. After all our tradition of 18th century colonialism and Christian reformism is not theirs,indeed,
China, Japan, the Phillipines and other Asian nations have histories of resistance to colonialism.
Personally, I think the thought of leaving behind the burden of caring for others is so intoxicating America will shrug off the neurosis and get back to survival as first priority.

Bogolyubski said...

Anonymous said...
There's a strong indication that Romney will lose the election. I know don't believe the despicable, perfidious, and controlled media, but if Romney loses it's the end for Whites in this country no matter where you are.

Yes, we know. It's the mostest important erection EVAAAHHH! Why, you mean that the Ministry of Truth, who has worked 24 x 7 x 365 for six decades running to cover-up black-on-white murder and rape is being less than honest? How could they? I'm just in total shock and awe! I could nearly cry!

The funny thing is - it's looking more and more like Mittens doesn't even want to win. He's gotten himself a massive pile of money from the usual suspects and he's not even spending much of it. (He gets to keep anything left over after the campaign.) Why, he's even reaching out this week to La Raza. Maybe he'll go visit some negroid "churches" next week to bolster his surging support among groids, who are all just "natural conservatives" to hear David Brooks and Rich Lowry tell it. He's got Karl Rove telling him to keep on channeling the drooling, cancerous old raving warmonger Juan McAmnesty - a surefire winning strategy for a country fed up with more than a decade of adventures to make the Ummah safe for feminism, sodomy and "democracy", because we all know that the goat-humpers of Pashtoonistan are just like us.

If you learn nothing else, learn this: The Republicans are not our friends. They actually the very worst enemies - who have funded and enabled BRA from its very beginning. It may well be the end of whites in this country, because most whites still refuse to see reality. The nominal party of the lying psychopath reading from the teleprompter makes no difference. Here in Amurika, we're given a choice of two outstanding flavors of Kool-Aid from bowels of Rev. Jim Jones' brewery: Dhimmi-crat and Repuke-lickin'. The cyanide content of both flavors is identical. Sales proceeds all go the the fund for the indigent Cayman Island accounts of vampire-squids.

uziman said...

Sorry for heading OT, but since this article has the word "treason" in it, I thought this would be a good sidebar distraction for reading.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/09/rarely_has_an_international_crisis_been_more_predictable.html

Anonymous said...

“From World War I to the 1970s, some six million black Americans fled the American South for an uncertain existence in the urban North and West,” - Actually, the robber barons, wishing to break the backs of the unions brought them in as scab laborers. from there the social networks for migration were set in place, and large numbers of blacks migrated north as a result.

And if someone wants to replace union with middle class, and blacks with cheap foreign laborers the same is true today.

“the most devastating possible indictment of the 20th century liberal enterprise in the United States.” - Somehow I doubt that they are all that broken up over the turn of events, you know, considering gentrification, emergency managers, and other measures which herald the creation of Jim Crow 2.0.

Anonymous said...

"We're not sending them, we're returning them. You'll get no sympathy from me. Southerners were the ones who imported the most Blacks. They can now live with the consequences of their handiwork. Do us all a big favor and reenact Jim Crow." - Legal immigration has brought more blacks here than slavery did.

Anonymous said...

You must have gone to public school. Most Africans brought to the states were on Yankee slavers owned by Puritan New Englanders. Yes the same ones that captured and sold native indians into slavery in the islands. And the same ones that were still slaving into South American at the same time they were financing and waging war on the south. Keep on believing you where blameless in the North. Also the North is now suffering what the South has been suffering since reconstruction. Whats that taste in your mouth.

Anonymous said...

"So she is stuck in a home that suppresses her ability to flex with new financial constraints."

LMAO! I could not help but notice how the word "suppress" was used here. It's true: black people cannot be held responsible for their own bad decisions, especially if those decisions "suppress" them. "Leteisha's new credit card allowed her to get a weave and get her nails done, but she was soon 'suppressed' with a credit card balance."

Anonymous said...

Effing enough with leftie think tank's and MSM's preoccupation with "blacks." Effing enough already. What is it about the black community that warrants such extensive studies and postulation?

Black culture is a culture of destruction. It destroys everything it emcompasses. Most of all, it is SELF-DESTRUCTIVE. One need look no further than Detroit or Johannesburg, S.A. to see what happens to cities that are abandoned to black control.

< http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LW6lOdxqSUE>

Black culture is a culture of violence, illegitimacy, illiteracy, and complacency. That will never change. The best thing that can happen to American society is if somehow black society can be separated and segregated to their own "corner" and let white society advance without the encumbrance of parastic blacks whose mantra is "Hep me! Hep me! Somebodys hep me!!"

America will never put a man on Mars or Jupiter as long as it spends its resources feeding and housing its black population. Thank God we were able to put a man on the moon before entitlement payments became the order of the day.

Whiskey said...

It is not White guys who long for "diversity." You don't see Joe Sixpack sitting around saying, "what I really need is diversity, so maybe I could teach part-time ESL to diverse kids." Nope. Don't see it.

That's the biggest divide, along gender lines, among Whites. Unlike Blacks or Hispanics or Asians, Whites are divided. Class matters some (both men and women of the Coastal Upper elite will act like Mead or anyone at City Journal) -- but that class of people is small. Maybe ten percent of Whites at most.

Romney's a numbers guy, he goes where the polling numbers show him. That's both good and bad, but really as America melts down you'd expect he'd be miles ahead. That he's not suggests that the true strength of BRA is in the appeal of what amounts to the legacy of a TV preacher. No not Jimmy Swaggart, the OTHER guy preaching cheap, TV-led redemption: Martin Luther King Jr. And that's mostly a White woman thing -- religious feeling in a post-Christian form. Cultural redemption on the cheap. I am in mind of the picture Derbyshire posted, of the White woman kneeling in front of some Black guy begging forgiveness. It was all about HER and being more moral.

No one can say or speak the truth -- Black populations ruin cities. Because about 70% of White women and 10% of Whites don't like it. While candidates matter, some, McCain pulled in about 60% of the White vote. Romney, now, is pulling 53%, if you believe Peter Brimelow at VDARE. If you watched both Conventions, the territory both Parties sought were women, White women. The only ones not locked in.

The PC orthodoxy, the punishments for speaking the truth, don't mostly come from men. And certainly not Blue collar, or even most White collar men. Look at Howard Stern. His comedy bits asking various Blacks simple facts tells you where PC does not live.

No one wants the Klan. But we're tired of living the lies. Tired of mouthing them. Tired of having to hear them and shut up.

Midwestern said...

Here is the narrative:

1. Whites are racist.
2. Blacks are oppressed by white racists.

If you can remember these two important points, everything else makes sense.

Anonymous said...

"No one wants the Klan. But we're tired of living the lies. Tired of mouthing them. Tired of having to hear them and shut up."

Amen, brother.

Anonymous said...

Ha ha. I made a comment on the City Journal story several hours ago and it never appeared. It seems these people have easily hurt little feelers:

"The cities didn't fail Blacks. Blacks destroyed the cities. Wherever Blacks (and Hispanics) settle, the crime rate soars, property values plummet, the standards of behavior become crude and primitive, the schools essentially cease to exist, the rule of law vanishes and the area becomes a parasitic consumer of taxes.

The very idea that Whites are at all responsible for Black and/or Hispanic failure is nothing but a destructive, leftist lie calculated to undermine civilization. This is a lie that slanders Whites and absolves Blacks and Hispanics of any responsibility for their chronic failures."

Rusty Mason said...

"No one wants the Klan." Not the version of the Klan portrayed by the SPLC, certainly. But the real Klan, not the modern cartoon version fed to the ignorant peasants, served a real purpose and was at one time a respectable organization for many town leaders and veterans of the time. They bravely served up law and order during a time of murder, mayhem, and general widespread lawlessness which had been imposed on the South by the North.


White people need to stop apologizing for their history.

Anonymous said...

suburbia now includes a “large, churchgoing, home-owning, childbearing, back-yard barbecuing, traffic-jam-cursing black middle class remarkable for the very ordinariness with which its members go about their classically American suburban affairs.”

How about reality :

surburbia now include a "large, prosperity-gospel mega church going, underwater home owning, neighborhood wrecking, chidrens smacking, back-yard cursing-yelling-hooting-keeping neighbors awake, traffic-jam causing-by-yakking-on-de-cellphone, black false middle class created by affirmative action very remarkable for how they just can't fit into any semblance of traditionally civilized suburban behavior originally created by white people.

Anonymous said...

Wherever diversity goes, property values fall and the schools fail. Forget for a moment that it is ethnically cleansing Whites, it is devaluing property and education. That alone should discourage anyone (except real estate yuppies) from wanting diversity. Why then does this insanity continue? The means justify the ends to these people. Encouraging diversity and self hate are the right things to do for them (and everyone else for that matter). The shithole that results won't be on their conscience because for all they care they did the right thing.

Zenster said...

Anon (9/17 2:54 PM): Keep on believing you where [sic] blameless in the North. Also the North is now suffering what the South has been suffering since reconstruction.

For some obscure reason—perhaps the same one that makes 200 comment threads so rare nowadays here at SBPDL—Paul did not see fit to publish my reply where I condemned Yankee slavers every bit as much as any Southern plantation owners.

The point remains that those goldurned Northerners didn't bring cartloads of African slaves down to the Southern states and just dump them there. Rarely, if ever, does a supply chain magically spring up where there is no demand or market for those goods.

The South bought those slaves and—given the historically high Black populations in Southern states—were the most significant users of slave labor. Nobody held a gun to their heads and told them that they must buy slaves.

The North deserves every last bit of its own retribution for having participated in the slave trade. Importing sub-Saharan Africans—hell importing non-Europeans of any sort—may easily be the most monumentally idiotic thing to happen in all American history.

As a thought experiment; imagine how much stronger White bloodlines would be today without the flower of nineteenth century American youth—some (mostly White) 750,000 in all (including a +20% upward revision of late)—had not perished in the Civil War.

Whats [sic] that taste in your mouth. [sic]

Why, it tastes just like Crow … Jim Crow, that is.

Zenster said...

Anon (9/17 5:54 PM): The shithole that results won't be on their conscience because for all they care they did the right thing.

All of which summons up the old maxim of:

JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO SOMETHING DOESN'T MEAN IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

Don M said...

You know the ironic thing is that Mitt Romney probably also feels that "Northern cities failed blacks."

If you asked him point blank, he'd probably throw is dear ol' daddy George under the bus for not having done enough for Blacks while governor of Michigan. Blacks rioted in Detroit in '67 because the city failed them, donchaknow.

I can understand the "anyone but Obama" mindset, but I truly believe Mittens is worse for us. Mittens is a jelly-spined appeaser who is always supportive of "reasonable" ideas from the left. Mitt would be for "reasonable gun control" and "reasonable tax increases" and "reasonable low income housing policy."

He's already verbally committed to continuing the brown immigration tsunami. Even crazier, the maniacal, delusional, TWMNBN-captured RNC really believes they're gonna make Republican voters out of a majority of them!

Most damaging of all, the house Republicans who are presently a united front against Obama would be browbeaten by the national GOP to support Mittens' crazy ideas and not buck their party's president. They would probably only last two years anyway before the demographic tide turned and swept in a new spate of Democrats.

I haven't even touched on what his almost certain war with Iran would result in.

We all know what's coming, but I don't think Mittens buys us any time. I actually think he shortens our horizon compared to a 2nd term of Obama with an irate, energetic opposition. I am, however, open to being converted to other side on this issue by persuasive counterarguments...

Northern Refugee said...

I live in a small Southern city. 15 years ago, our downtown was a "diverse" hodgepodge of crack houses, empty lots and formerly grand, now derelict, hotels, mansions and office buildings. Fast forward to today. Downtown is a bustling collection of new shops, condos and restaurants. Obviously, it was the work of "buppies" moving back south, with all those useful skills they learned up north.

Sorry, no. It was white (and to a lesser extent, Asian) businessmen who purchased the derelicts, rehabed them, and turned the city back into, well, a city. The city council helped, by practicing Negro removal, I mean urban renewal.

I have spent my entire adult life in the private sector and the military. The only "buppies" I have seen work for government agencies. That's right, NASA "scientists" with degrees from U of Phoenix and the like. In the private sector, I have only met 2 black engineers, one of whom was just part of the scenery of a modern, "sensitive" corporation.

Anonymous said...

zenster the "south" didnt bring the most slaves, largest slave port was a jewish community near Massachusetts, suppressed history shows whites owned less than 10% of negro slave, the average american didnt like the fact of america being built with Negroes, jews paid for the ships and crews for the triangular slave trade

HalfElf said...

"Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor???"NO!!

Bogolyubski said...

Once again, I have to wonder if Whiskey is getting to a massive root of the problem here. How many millions of dumbass white females like this one are there out there? There are plenty to be sure, churned out by public schools plus the obligatory 4 years or more of PCMC indoctrination. They vote. What better proof does anyone need that women have no business voting?

Facts, logic, history. All fail completely with a voter like her. It's all about the feelings. Adams was dead on right about the "tyranny of the petticoat". Whiskey is correct that by any normal measure, Mittens should be well ahead of D'Won by this time. Nothing seems to make a difference. I'm almost starting to feel sorry for poor wittle Mittens (but not quite).

Anonymous said...

Ex-Lincolnite:

But then instead of the cities getting a reprieve from blacks, indeed the cities are made to swallow literal jungle apes from Somalia. (I suppose there is no jungle in Somalia, they would be desert apes!)

I think that the destruction of America's once great cities is a prospect that needs to be looked at. I wonder if the folks down south are willing to put up with as much crap as the libs in the north? My guess is the southerners will make sure to build enough prisons to keep the coons in line.

City Journal isn't a conservative publication at all, it is Conservatism, Inc. It is the manner in which we have become indoctrinated into the idea that Diversity is our nation's greatest strength, yet it is really our greatest weakness. We are falling apart as a nation, and no one seems to care.

The best hope is to self segregate. To secede mentally and let the rest of the masses reap what they have sown.

The Sanity Inspector said...

Nobody moves from the upper Midwest to the Sunbelt suburbs just in search of a bigger DFACS check. That's silly! If all you know about blacks is what you see on the news, or through your windshield, you don't really know them.

Anonymous said...

Today in the War $treet Journal editorial page, an opinion piece by the GOP elders painted a dire financial picture resulting from the Federal Reserve's policies. They just could not bring themselves to conclude that the current Chairman (Bernanke) was appointed by George W. Bush (a Republican) or that maybe the concept of the Federal Reserve itselfs is the problem.

As was stated on another thread: The GOP is NOT our friend. The best outcome in November is that Obama wins and enough GOP seats are taken in the congress to thwart him. Mittens buys time for BRA.

Anonymous said...

No city, county, or state should be forced to accept (or allow) a massive influx of worthless black parasites. Who needs an increase in that population?
That would be like living in an apartment building infested with rats and then going to a pet store and buying more rats to let loose in the building.

Jay Santos said...

Bogolyubski said...

Yes, we know. It's the mostest important erection EVAAAHHH!


I’ve learned to just skip over your comments. But for some reason I’ve got an overwhelming need to react to this repetitive dirge. What is your point? Are you a writer and just feel the need to craft your writing here? If so, why not try something new, something creative. “important erection”, damn that’s clever. Over and over it appears. There has got to be others here who are just tired of the negative, nihilistic, monotone of an opinion that you express again and again. Do you work for the DNC?

You’ve got an “erection” in 50 days. Vote for Obama then. It will all collapse soon and you’ll be in charge and you’ll fix everything. It’s that easy. Seriously, a guy like you, with these ideas and these language skills, right to the top. I’m as cyncical as the next guy and Romney doesn’t really light my fire, but Jesus Christ do you really understand what the alternative is for people who work for a living? In your mind, will another four years of Obama cause the collapse and then all the “jews”, all the rinos and the negroes will abandon their control stations and take up residence in Bejing?

We didn’t get here over the last 7 years. It’s going to take a long time to dig ourselves out of it and it’s going to need some constructive ideas and actual labor. Snarking on the internet isn’t going to do it. Get Obama out of office and start from there.

Anonymous said...

Southerners imported them. Yankee slavers transported them.

Anonymous said...

Boots on the ground here in Seattle, reporting on the melanin enriched every damn where. Be glad to get back seventy miles south of here.

Midwestern said...

"What better proof does anyone need that women have no business voting?"

I agree with this statement. In this election, my husband will cast a single vote to represent our family.

I am thinking of canceling my voter registration. I dropped out of the work force 15 years ago when my first child was born so that a man have a chance to support his family in my old job, and so that I could educate my children and make our home.

I don't want to be a part of the political herd anymore. Women in the mix always seem to muck things up, and I have way too much work to do for my husband and children. So far it has been an easy and natural decision.

Midwestern said...

"suburbia now includes a “large, churchgoing, home-owning, childbearing, back-yard barbecuing, traffic-jam-cursing black middle class remarkable for the very ordinariness with which its members go about their classically American suburban affairs.”

This is so NOT true. The black church is a joke where Obama is Black Jesus. The black middle-class does not exist as a parallel to the white middle-class. The blacks have been invited into the middle class by whites, but the blacks can not sustain it without them. They have not earned it. And they do not have the value system to pass it to their offspring. They still have a pact to keep it real with the underclass in order to always remain "authentically black".

I have known several "middle-class" blacks, and they are only playing house and mimicking white culture. And they are not very good at it.

They are pets for DWL whites and tolerated for diversity's sake. It is never authentic, the blacks just think that by purchasing the right name brands and living next to whites they will show as middle-class and be acceptable. Black people and their magical thinking.

They still do not value family or marriage, their kids are thug jerks and create chaos and learning gaps in the schools, and they still subscribe to the failed black culture - basketball, ghetto worship, hip-hop crap music, saggedy pants, gangs, ebonics, loitering, anti-intellectualism, in a constant state of rhyming and rapping, Twitter flash mobs, drugs, $200 shoes, basketball, burglary, anti-police sentiment, no snitching, purple drank, crime and thuggery. They are just wearing expensive braces on their teeth and driving Escalades at the same time. We are not fooled.

What is the quote about putting lipstick on a pig?

UKistan Ambassador said...

Nobody held a gun to their heads and told them that they must buy slaves.


Of course not. Wanting to own slaves is innate in every African.

Anonymous said...

Wherever diversity goes, property values fall and the schools fail. Forget for a moment that it is ethnically cleansing Whites, it is devaluing property and education. That alone should discourage anyone (except real estate yuppies) from wanting diversity. Why then does this insanity continue? The means justify the ends to these people. Encouraging diversity and self hate are the right things to do for them (and everyone else for that matter). The shithole that results won't be on their conscience because for all they care they did the right thing.

UKistan Ambassador said...


Black people migrate like locusts. They move into an area and disrupt progress by consuming what they can and contribute basically nothing to the community.


I think you will find that Mark Duggan, who was shot and that sparked off the London riots of 2011, introduced weed and a loaded BBM Bruni Model 92 to his neighbourhood yet I do not read these facts in the reports of the events.

FOR SHAME!

To those sickos at the Guardian.

Anonymous said...

You see mosly Whites with Obama stickers on their cars in Atlanta.

Send the remigrating black swarms to teach them the Diversity Lesson.

Zenster said...

Whiskey: Romney's a numbers guy, he goes where the polling numbers show him. That's both good and bad, but really as America melts down you'd expect he'd be miles ahead.

If Romney is such a "numbers guy", why in hell is he wasting his breath and precious campaign dollars trying to garner whatever leftover scraps there are of the monolithic Black vote for 0bama?

Black Republican voters are like "moderate Muslims"; so small in number as to be statistically insignificant.

The only explanation for Romney's "slumming" is that, by demonstrating "concern" for Black voters, he hopes to lure over bleeding heart Liberal women who have gained a slight awareness of just what a total train wreck 0bama is. He'd be far better off addressing undecided women voters and swing states than wasting his time chasing after non-existent Black votes for him.

Romney isn't just bending over backward to avoid any perception of being racist; he's bending over forward and 0bama will stuff him like a Chicago ward ballot box.

Bogolyubski said...

Jay Santos:
I’ve learned to just skip over your comments. But for some reason I’ve got an overwhelming need to react to this repetitive dirge. What is your point? Are you a writer and just feel the need to craft your writing here? If so, why not try something new, something creative. “important erection”, damn that’s clever. Over and over it appears. There has got to be others here who are just tired of the negative, nihilistic, monotone of an opinion that you express again and again. Do you work for the DNC?

You’ve got an “erection” in 50 days. Vote for Obama then. It will all collapse soon and you’ll be in charge and you’ll fix everything. It’s that easy. Seriously, a guy like you, with these ideas and these language skills, right to the top. I’m as cyncical as the next guy and Romney doesn’t really light my fire, but Jesus Christ do you really understand what the alternative is for people who work for a living? In your mind, will another four years of Obama cause the collapse and then all the “jews”, all the rinos and the negroes will abandon their control stations and take up residence in Bejing?

We didn’t get here over the last 7 years. It’s going to take a long time to dig ourselves out of it and it’s going to need some constructive ideas and actual labor. Snarking on the internet isn’t going to do it. Get Obama out of office and start from there.


Obviously, you didn't notice that the stupid cliche was in response to the even dumber cliche (... if Romney loses it's the end for Whites in this country no matter where you are) repeated by the anonymous poster quoted. Unless whites start turning off the jujubox and start waking up, it's going to be the end of them regardless of which criminal psychopath mumbles arbeit macht frei over the teleprompter. Perhaps the much-boasted white IQ isn't s high as everyone thinks. They just keep on drinking the damned Kool-Aid, after all. Mittens shows little evidence of even wanting to win anyway. Mexicans and Negroids are never going to vote for him, but he's going to spend the next week doing the typical Repuke dance of "reaching out".

With real unemployment at least 17%, Mittens should be in a much stronger position than he is under all conventional political wisdom - as Whiskey pointed out. Not one person who advocates Mittens here has been able to cite a single example of how he would be better than D'Won. The positions of the two are identical. The folks who created and operate BRA will be doing every single thing they are doing irrespective of who reads the teleprompter. The whole farce of an election itself is a perfect example of the twin forces of massive idiocracy and a treasonous and genocidal ruling oligrachy. You're correct that we didn't get here in 7 years (more like a century, actually). Either the whole primary process was rigged from the start (a real possibility) or the Repuke base is so blindingly and terminally stupid that they think Mittens somehow represents something different than Housenigga Hussein - utterly ignoring his thoroughly leftist record as Supreme Kommissar of the most leftist state in the country.

This notion that getting Mittens in the white house is somehow going to change anything about BRA is a type of magical thinking. Those on the right making the opposing case - that Mittens will actually be worse - have a more plausible argument, though still unconvincing. As I mentioned in a previous thread, the state legislatures are infinitely more important than who reads the teleprompter. Congressional races are likewise more important.

Mr. Rational said...

If anyone has a source for the "we will follow" quote attributed to Andrew Young, I would like to have it.  The only search results for it point back here, and that's not something you can use in an argument with a liberal to help the bystanders See.

Anonymous said...

Re Bogo's last comment.
I respect your tenacious attempts to realistically address the issues dis-illuminating our country. I am 65 and all I can say is that this is the most misunderstood campaign I can recall,(including the war torn years in the 1960's) and ironically the one that cries out the most for explication. The issues, are simply put, so complex even highly educated individuals are challenged to understand them, it seems, much less explain/defend them. Try to explain "monetization of the debt" or "QE" to someone who barely made it out of high school and who is unemployed, addicted, and depressed. Or even healthy but not that bright. Or even bright but depressed.
The reason so many people dislike Romney,I think, is that he is really smart (obviously) and his grasp of the issues stimulates suspicion of him. The suspicious don't want to admit they are paranoid of him so they make up essentially unbelievably fictions about his character, motives, etc.
As the wit says, you can't fix stupid. Especially unfortunately, you cannot also even converse with it, much less debate with it.
A thoroughly impossible hope would be to think meritocracy has a solution to this mess short of denying rights to the mentally challenged.
Ominous.

Zenster said...

Bogolyubski: Mexicans and Negroids are never going to vote for him, but he's [Romney's] going to spend the next week doing the typical Repuke dance of "reaching out".

Which, as I noted earlier, shows just how totally out of touch this silver spoon, culturally Marxist, PCMC (Politically Correct Multi-Culturalist), Ivy League Bush 2.0 & 0bama clone really is.

If this idiot could dedicate himself to "reaching out" towards the one bloc of voters who ever could elect him, namely Whites, then he might have a hope in hell. As of now, I will readily admit that he does not seem to, nor does he deserve a shot at the Oval Office.

Not one person who advocates Mittens here has been able to cite a single example of how he would be better than D'Won.

Bogolyubski, you've already displayed enough intellectual honesty to recognize the propriety of my own desire to vote against 0bama (not for Mittens). It is of paramount importance to Flush the Toilet™. Not only is it critical to begin a quadrennial habit of repeatedly flushing the Oval Bowl™, but there is another vital goal in this process.

Ever notice how Bush 1.0 doesn't get many speaking engagements? Especially compared to those who came before and after his term in office. Both Reagan and Clinton enjoyed far greater post-presedential popularity. While some of this deficit can be attributed to Bush's hopelessly wooden persona, his being a one trick pony … er, I mean, a one term president definitely diminished his marketable legacy.

This is why it is so important to Flush the Toilet™. If the only result is to deny 0bama a "mandate" via being returned to office, that alone is worth the effort. Imagine the decreased speaking fees and overall loss of credibility that this Commie ward-heeler would experience were he thrust from office like the monumental fraud that he is.

THE SAME GOES FOR MITTENS.

AND THE SAME GOES FOR EVERY LAST CANDIDATE OF EITHER POLITICAL STRIPE SO LONG AS THEY CANNOT BRING THEMSELVES TO SHOW A DEEP APPRECIATION FOR THE WHITE AMERICA THAT ELECTS EVERY LAST ONE OF THESE TRAITOROUS BASTARDS.


Kill their "mandates". Destroy their post-presidency marketability. Ruin their credibility. Demolish the perceived worth of their anti-White, anti-American platforms. Discredit them at every turn. And keep doing it until someone worthy of a two term presidency finally surfaces.

Anon said...

"In this election, my husband will cast a single vote to represent our family.

I am thinking of canceling my voter registration. I dropped out of the work force 15 years ago when my first child was born so that a man have a chance to support his family in my old job"

Midwestern,
Why did you vote and take up someone else's potential spot at work in the first place? You sound like a former feminazi slut. Bet you rode the cock carousel until your looks began to fade, and that's when you decided to change your ways all of a sudden to land yourself a docile beta provider. Too bad women like you (who probably slept with quite a few black men during your days of liberated womanhood) have to clog up the red pill blogs, trying to convince others and yourselves of your forced, fake virtues.

Discard said...

Anon at 12:01 AM: What have you got against Midwestern? What are you, a gamma male, woman-hating, son-of-a-stripper?

Midwestern said...

"Why did you vote and take up someone else's potential spot at work in the first place?"

"trying to convince others and yourselves of your forced, fake virtues."

Wow, bitter much? LOL. I will show your comments to my husband and we will laugh together. He will be offended that you call him Beta.

Are you the same "Anon" troll who attacked Sheila and called her a Jew?

Desiree??

Midwestern said...

Oh yes, and BTW bitter Anon, major Chateau Heartiste/Roissey FAIL with the "cock carousel" and "beta provider" and "fading looks" buzz words.

You managed to use all of the secret code words in your rant and exposed yourself, LOL. Are you in your mother's basement right now?

Zenster said...

Anon @ 9/19, 2012 12:01 AM.

That's one helluva a presumptuous, if not just plain rude, statement to make regarding Midwestern. What grounds do you have for making such an offensive supposition? It is just as easy to see some self-projection being made by a jealous loser in such a vitriolic comment. Explain yourself, please.

Bogolyubski said...

Zenster:
Ever notice how Bush 1.0 doesn't get many speaking engagements? Especially compared to those who came before and after his term in office. Both Reagan and Clinton enjoyed far greater post-presedential popularity. While some of this deficit can be attributed to Bush's hopelessly wooden persona, his being a one trick pony … er, I mean, a one term president definitely diminished his marketable legacy.

This is why it is so important to Flush the Toilet™. If the only result is to deny 0bama a "mandate" via being returned to office, that alone is worth the effort. Imagine the decreased speaking fees and overall loss of credibility that this Commie ward-heeler would experience were he thrust from office like the monumental fraud that he is.

THE SAME GOES FOR MITTENS.

AND THE SAME GOES FOR EVERY LAST CANDIDATE OF EITHER POLITICAL STRIPE SO LONG AS THEY CANNOT BRING THEMSELVES TO SHOW A DEEP APPRECIATION FOR THE WHITE AMERICA THAT ELECTS EVERY LAST ONE OF THESE TRAITOROUS BASTARDS.

Kill their "mandates". Destroy their post-presidency marketability. Ruin their credibility. Demolish the perceived worth of their anti-White, anti-American platforms. Discredit them at every turn. And keep doing it until someone worthy of a two term presidency finally surfaces.


As is often the case, we are in riotous agreement (as you like to say). This is an excellent point, and significantly adds to the appeal of flushing the toilet. You are correct about Bush the elder: he doesn't do much on the rubber-chicken circuit. Neither does the shrub, for that matter.

Zenster said...

Bogolyubski: As is often the case, we are in riotous agreement (as you like to say). This is an excellent point, and significantly adds to the appeal of flushing the toilet.

In return for your nod about flushing the toilet, I will heartily second your notion about reaching downward into the Senate, Congress and state legislatures with respect to seeing some real change.

More than ever before in American history, this year's presidential candidates are merely two sides of the same political coin. Our one-party system of unadulterated Big Business™ special interests makes impossible any significant distinction between them.

That said, due to all the media hysteria, I still favor a top-down approach in that it would garner a lot of important coverage and begin my quadrennial cycle of Flush and Repeat™. It is absolutely vital to start such a process right away. Establishing this pattern cannot happen soon enough and there remains little time to get this message through.

All midyear election cycles should embrace the Flush and Repeat™ theme as every last incumbent finds themselves out on their silk clad ass. If we cannot obtain a Constitutional amendment creating federal term limits, let's do it the hard way at the ballot box.

Vote out every last incumbent, good or bad. No flock of greenhorns could possibly do the damage that this current good-old-boy network is doing to America. We have, not just Connected Capitalism but Connected Politics and it is killing America. The only problem is that minorities will continue to vote by skin color. However, it can be spelled out to White candidates that cooperating with minority agendas will see instant recall drives to yank them out of office before expiration of even their first term.

Thoughts?

Mr. Rational said...

All midyear election cycles should embrace the Flush and Repeat™ theme as every last incumbent finds themselves out on their silk clad ass. If we cannot obtain a Constitutional amendment creating federal term limits, let's do it the hard way at the ballot box.

Vote out every last incumbent, good or bad. No flock of greenhorns could possibly do the damage that this current good-old-boy network is doing to America....

Thoughts?


"I don't care who does the electing as long as I do the nominating." — Boss Tweed

The GOB network has a very deep bench, and as long as the nomination goes to one of its cronies it doesn't matter if it's not the same as the last seat-warmer.  (This is a problem in politics from villages on up.)  To fix the problem, you have to do a Tea Party or Paulite trick and take over the local party from the PTB.  This is NOT a small task either, and the aforementioned PTB can then throw their support to the other branch of the Party of Money running in the general election (see the Tea-party candidates defeated by Dems).

What this comes down to is that the people who make peaceful change impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.  I'm surprised that incidents like the ballot theft at some Republican caucuses didn't result in gunfire or at least weapons drawn.

Anon said...

"Oh yes, and BTW bitter Anon, major Chateau Heartiste/Roissey FAIL with the "cock carousel" and "beta provider" and "fading looks" buzz words.

You managed to use all of the secret code words in your rant and exposed yourself, LOL."

Ah, look at the hamster spin! Roissy tells it like it is, and you can't take it. "LOL" indeed. Btw, the fact that you know all the buzz words, as you call them show that you troll around da Chateau. There are plenty married former sluts hanging around there, aching to be used and abused. Otherwise, why suck up to men on the internet instead of focusing on your own husband? You say that you agree with Whiskey and Bogo about women being useless in politics and overall intellectually dishonest, emotionally unstable, led around by their clits, and yet you're on the internet doing things that don't concern you. If you were truly repentant and wanted to make the best of your gender's limitations, you'd be in the kitchen or in the bedroom instead of humping the desktop, pretending you have the ability to understand politics or biology.

Zenster said...

Mr. Rational: The GOB network has a very deep bench, and as long as the nomination goes to one of its cronies it doesn't matter if it's not the same as the last seat-warmer.

And, if you've paying attention—which I do think you have been—then you're plenty aware of my advocacy for a "Constitutional" third party.

This is, probably, the only thing that can shrink any influence of the BTNP™ (Boss Tweed Nomination Process) from today's GOB (Good-Old-Boy) network.

America's purported "two-party system" is hopelessly compromised. Any arguments?

[crickets]

Ergo, an electorate which is determined to retake control of this nation's political system must consider establishing a viable alternate or third political party.

This is one very lonely point where I am tempted to credit Europe's parliamentary process; in that they have several parties which much reach consensus in order to establish a mandate.

However much I remain tempted to sneer at the unproductive aspect of such fragmented political bodies, there is still a strong urge to seek a midpoint of three or four (but not seven or ten) competing parties in order to prevent the unhealthy agglomerated political platform which informs America's government at present.

World_War_Me said...

To Anon @September 19, 2012 1:56 PM
YOU are the little bitch here. Troll Anon is Trolling.

I am a woman. Kitchens bore me; conceps of Civil War III fascinate and exhilirate me. You should embrace women "who can see", not alienate them, you misogynist c*unt.

YOU belong in the kichen: preferably with your head in the oven with the gas turned on.