Tuesday, September 18, 2012

"Like a step on the moon..." How a DWL Explains the Election of Barack Obama

The DWL MInd: The Moon Landing < Election of Barack Obama
You wait and you wait and you wait for that perfect quote to be uttered from the lips of Disingenuous White Liberal (DWL) that encapsulates their entire philosophy, just so you finally can understand the driving force behind their actions.

And when it is finally supplied, all you can do is laugh. Courtesy of the Academy Award-winning composer Randy Newman, we now are offered insight into the penetrating mind of the DWL [Randy Newman writes new satirical, political song, AP, 9-18-2012]:
Randy Newman is weighing in on the presidential election, and he's playing the race card through a song he wrote called "I'm Dreaming." 
The piano tune features the refrain: "I'm dreaming of a white president." It is full of satirical, sarcastic — and signature — Newman anecdotes about someone who votes for the president because he is white. 
Newman, who is white, is openly supporting President Barack Obama. He says he wants the public to find comedic relief in the song, but to also know he's serious about his thoughts that racism is well and alive in the world — and in the current presidential race. He called racism "the great issue of this country." 
"I felt that that sentiment exists in the country," Newman said in an interview Monday. "I don't know how many people you can get to admit it. I think maybe zero." 
Newman believes Obama will be re-elected in November and feels that Republican contender Mitt Romney isn't a "serious candidate for president." 
Newman said he's proud of how America has progressed, though, but adds that "there's a long way to go." 
"No European country would have elected a black man," he said. "I can't believe it happened. I think it's fantastic, like a step on the moon."

"Like a step on the moon?"

It would be difficult to ascertain what Newman means by "how America has progressed," but a cursory glance at Detroit and Birmingham post-Civil Rights Era wouldn't be prudent for one professing 'progress' as a synonymous with Black-rule.

But no matter: it's the act itself that Mr. Newman supports, damn the consequences. For Mr. Newman, supporting Obama is a liberating experience as it frees him from being called either racist or a white supremacist (which all white people are in the eyes of non-whites, which is why DWLs place that community's promotion as the great possible outcome in any endeavor).

But comparing the election of a Black man to the office of the presidency of the United States to... "a step on the moon?" Seems outlandish, right?

Considering that it was Black people who complained of the Apollo mission for wasting money that would have been better spent, not sending white people to the moon, but on keeping white people grounded to the reality of eternally caring for the Black Undertow.

It is in "Live from the Moon: The Societal Impact of Apollo" by Andrew Chaikin, a chapter in the book Societal Impact of Spaceflight, that the Black/white view of space exploration comes into view. There is no grey in this discussion:


As momentous as apollo 8 was, its historical impact was equaled, even surpassed, by that of apollo 11, the first landing of humans on another world.When neil armstrong and Buzz aldrin took history’s first moonwalk on 20 July 1969, an estimated 600 million people—one-fifth of the world’s population—witnessed it on live television and radio. it was difficult not to feel the enormity of the event, and some observers viewed it as a turning point in the course of civilization—especially science fiction writers, many of whom had envisioned the event in the decades before it happened. one was robert heinlein, who had penned the story for the 1950 film Destination Moon; on the day of the moonwalk he appeared as a guest on CBS news’television coverage of the mission.“this is the greatest event in all the history of the human race up to this time,”heinlein said.“Today is NewYear’s Day of theYear one. If we don’t change the calendar, historians will do so.” 
And yet no one could ignore the fact that the first moon landing, taking place at a time of continuing turmoil in the united States, was also evoking dissent. On
the day before the apollo 11 launch, Ralph Abernathy, chairman of the Southern christian Leadership council, came to the Kennedy Space center with a small group of protesters to draw attention to the plight of the nation’s poor. And in new York city on the day of the landing, a member of harlem’s black community voiced the same concern to a network TV reporter:

The cash they wasted, as far as I’m concerned, in getting to the moon, could have been used to feed poor black people in Harlem, and all over this country. So, you know, never mind the moon; let’s get some of that cash in Harlem.
A defense of the apollo expenditures (the estimated total was $24 billion) came from arthur c. clarke, the writer and futurist who had collaborated with director Stanley Kubrick to create the screenplay for Kubrick’s 1968 epic science fiction film 2001: A Space Odyssey. in his comments, clarke looked to apollo’s long-term benefits:
I think in the long run the money that’s been put into the space program is one of the best investments this country has ever made . . .This is a downpayment on the future of mankind. It’s as simple as that.

By winning the space race with the Soviet union, apollo had given a boost to the nation’s prestige in the world and, for many americans, a heightened a sense of national pride. But seen through another lens, particularly that of the nation’s disadvantaged, the view was starkly different.to black poet Gil Scott-Heron, Apollo was emblematic of the nation’s racial inequalities.he expressed this in “Whitey on the moon,” which begins,

A rat done bit my sister Nell. (with Whitey on the moon) Her face and arms began to swell. (andWhitey’s on the moon)I can’t pay no doctor bill (but Whitey’s on the moon) Ten years from now I’ll be payin’ still. (whileWhitey’s on the moon)

No Mr. Heinlein, historians didn't start the calendar over. It would have to wait until 1-20-2009, when Mr. Obama was elected president of the United States. At least in the eyes of Mr. Newman. 

The exploration of space effectively ended: We could have been on Mars, but instead we funded Black-Run America (BRA). And because we chose the latter path, Mr. Newman and DWLs like him can feel morally superior to rest of us. Had we chose the former path, we would have just felt superior to everyone else as we prepared to traverse the starts. 

Now, we have to use GPS devices to steer us clear of Black Ghettos (largely funded by money that would have propelled us to the stars). 

Never forget what Lawrence Auster wrote:


WHAT BLACKS CONTRIBUTE TO CIVILIZATION  

Did you know this? I didn’t. I just came upon it in Wikipedia’s article on Ralph Abernathy, Martin Luther King’s successor as the head of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference:
"On the eve of the Apollo 11 launch, July 15, 1969, Abernathy arrived at Cape Canaveral with several hundred members of the poor people to protest spending of government space exploration, while many Americans remained poor. He was met by Thomas O. Paine, the Administrator of NASA, whom he told that in the face of such suffering, space flight represented an inhuman priority and funds should be spent instead to “feed the hungry, clothe the naked, tend the sick, and house the homeless.” Mr. Paine told Abernathy that the advances in space exploration were child’s play compared to the tremendously difficult human problems of society, and told him that “if we could solve the problems of poverty by not pushing the button to launch men to the moon tomorrow, then we would not push that button.” On the day of the launch, Dr. Abernathy led a small group of protesters to the restricted guest viewing area of the space center and chanted, “We are not astronauts, but we are people.”

So there you have it. One of the greatest achievements in history, the first manned flight to the moon, and the most prestigious black civil rights organization, the SCLC, wanted it not to take place, because they thought the money it cost could be better spent on transfer payments to blacks. And that is all that blacks as an organized community have to contribute to our civilization: endless complaints about white injustice to blacks, and endless demands for the wealth and goods that white people have produced, and that blacks are incapable of producing. Plus a third “contribution” not brought out in this incident: endless threats of violence and riots if the blacks don’t get their way.
 

The black blackmail and dragging down of white civilization will continue, until whites stand up, name it for what it is, and say, “No more.”
 
But since there is zero indication that whites will do that in any foreseeable future (to the contrary, as we can see in the George Zimmerman affair, whites, including many “conservatives,” are becoming more, not less attuned to the worldview of “Black-Run America”), the black blackmail and dragging down of our civilization will continue and intensify, until the civilization is ruined. 


Progress.

58 comments:

Anonymous said...

I hate that you are so right.

Anonymous said...

I heard the new Obama-worshiping Randy Newman tune and it is scattered and dumb. He has gone off the deep end, just another guilt ridden millionaire (via his own hard work) liberal dufus. He probably wants his daughters (if any) to marry black men to expunge this burden of guilt

HaroldC said...

The overwhelming majority of Negroes exist as parasites. They know of no other means of self aggrandizement. They are egocentric and ethnocentric to the extreme and incensed that any other ethnic group should be a fraction as ethnocentric as they are. Everything is always about them.

We owe them absolutely nothing but contempt.

Phalluster said...

I would like to wish Randy Newman a very happy New Year!

Discard said...

Now that Romney has been caught saying that the 47% who support BHO are parasites, maybe he can just go whole hog and point out how much damage the Darks and their DWL handlers have done. To open wide the racial can of worms is more important than winning any election.
"Romney makes huge gaffe!
Says that Blacks low intelligence prevents them from contributing to society!
Recommends segregation, free sterilization!"

He knows the truth. I don't think that anyone who is aware of the producer/consumer tipping point could miss it.

So CAL Snowman said...

"No European country would have elected a black man," he said. "I can't believe it happened. I think it's fantastic, like a step on the moon."

This is a very telling statement in my opinion. WHY should any European country want to elect a black man? Blacks are less than 5% of the population in most European countries. It's funny though, if you asked Mr. Newman if a White should be elected in Africa he would flip out and call you a Nazi! Why would a majority population ANYWHERE elect a member of a minority to rule over them? IT makes no sense and I guess that's why people say that liberalism is a mental disease. It really pisses me off that he calls out ALL of Europe for not electing a black man. We have plenty of empirical evidence to suggest that putting black men in positions of power is the WORST CHOICE OF ALL.

Additionally Mr. Newman, like ALL liberals, is being intellectually dishonest by claiming that we have a BLACK president. Obviously Captain Chuckles is a half breed, with less than 50% African ancestry, but hey to RACISTS like Newman all that matters is SKIN COLOR! Ironically the liberal establishment is the one judging people by the COLOR OF THEIR SKIN and NOT the content of their character!

Sort of OT - If you really believe that we went to the moon, you probably have never actually researched the Apollo program.

Wag the Moondoggie

This guy David McGowan absolutely kills it and it's FUNNY as hell.

Anonymous said...

"...Considering that it was Black people who complained of the Apollo mission for wasting money that would have been better spent, not sending white people to the moon, but on keeping white people grounded to the reality of eternally caring for the BLACK UNDERTOW..."

PK, the only criticism I have is that you should stop with the "undertow" stuff. It implies that if not for the street thugs, things wouldn't be that bad. The problem is NOT the street thugs. It is the "upper class" blacks. The well known athletes, politicians, actors, etc, who whip up the "undertow", and NEVER suffer for it.

-Sweep the leg-

YIH said...

Time for another rant:
@Bogolyubski: If your going to keep using this tired Vox Populi meme at least phrase it correctly:
''It's the mostest importantest errection EVVVAAARRR!!!''
It was spawned there as a rebuttal to the talk radio meme where [host] keep treating each election as if it were the Super Bowl and if the GOP wins things will improve. Clearly that's not the case.
@Zenster: Israel's got to put on it's big boy pants and do Iran on its own. No help from the US or anyone else. If they can't nut it up and do Iran now they might as well go to the ''Sampson option'' right away and just get it over with.
Getting American soldiers stuck there for years on end getting chopped up like hamburger to ''bring freedom and democracy'' to muslims? AGAIN? Count me out. The neocons have no one else but themselves to blame for selling that snake oil in regards to Iraq,
And now they are offering for sale ''New and improved snake oil! Now with a different letter!''.
UH-UH, no sale.
For all those who think Romney can win: No matter what you do, don't count on it.
Four states are still considered 'tossup', even if they all go Romney, he loses. He has to sweep all four and pick up a state 'leaning 0bama' to even make it close.
What does Romney offer? More so-called 'free trade agreements' more unwinnable social work 'wars' in the middle east and probably another shot at 'amnesty' just like the Wall $treet Urinal and talk radio likes to piss all over the USA.
And what's worse is in four years we will be seeing yet another neocon searching for enough of those hidden black and immigrant ''natural conservatives'' to eek out a win while giving the finger to Whites.

Kil said...

As usual, comments on the original article are a disaster for the libtards.

Californian said...

Well, now, America has spent far more than $24 billion (about $140 billion in today's money) on the war on poverty, AA, minority grants, black studies, HBCU, court ordered busing, midnight basketball, lawsuits over "discrimination," foreign aid to sub-Saharan Africa, and etc., et alia, ad nauseam. We can toss in the costs of the prison-industrial complex, plus the destruction of cities such as Detroit. And what has the USA gotten in return?

Has BRA generated inventions similar to those of the space program? How about scientists, engineers and pilots who can compare with those of the space program? Here's a laundry list of NASA technological benefits:
http://www.sac.edu/AcademicProgs/ScienceMathHealth/Planetarium/Pages/Benefits-of-the-NASA-Space-Program.aspx

You wonder how many people complaining about the space program's costs could go two days without their cell phones (which use satellite communications)? Or would refuse to evacuate from a city threatened by a hurricane when given a satellite weather warning?


...on the day of the moonwalk [Robert A. Heinlein] appeared as a guest on CBS news’ television coverage of the mission.“this is the greatest event in all the history of the human race up to this time,” Heinlein said.

I've seen this clip. Great stuff. The future should have begun there. But it fizzled out. We went from Destination Moon to Blade Runner.

Dissident said...

To So. Cal Snowman:

I love McGowans stuff. I've read all of his works and have many podcasts of him being interviewed as well. He is very funny indeed!

Wagging the Moondoggie does a good job of deconstructing the myth, in my humble opinion.

Anonymous said...

The only thing funny about Newman's pathetic attempt at race-baiting Whites, is his list of White presidents proves we should never have elected a negro! Who would compare the half-black incompetent to someone like Washington or Jefferson? Heck, I wish NASA would invent a time machine so we could travel back in time to fetch Jefferson and have him debate the imposter.

Van said...

YIH: "For all those who think Romney can win: No matter what you do, don't count on it."

Prior to the conventions, I had Romney winning (in a "if the election were tomorrow" sense). Even with most polls showing Obama with a small lead, once I factored in poll bias (measurable oversampling of Dems) and undecided voters (historically break 2/3 to 3/4 against the incumbent), Romney looked good for around 52% of the vote and over 300 in the Electoral College.

But now, if the election was tomorrow, Obama would win. Even the much more reliable Rasmussen shows it. While Romney is up in the national vote, when pressed, the undecideds are breaking 3 to 1 for Obama. And Obama looks favored in most of the swing states.

My last conversation with Silent Running has me on the fence regarding the Worse-is-Better opinion. It's just impossible to predict how everything will play out. My fear with WIB is, if this is all some grand conspiracy, then the economic collapse is exactly what they want. It won't be our chance to restore Constitutional government based on liberty; it'll be their checkmate move for enslavement.

Be prepared.

Anonymous said...

Note that the moon Obama is gazing upon with such enchantment in that picture is a crescent moon, symbol of Islam and its moon-god.

MuayTyson said...

The complete lack of knowledge is rather scarey. As many of you point out it is calculated.

I was approached yesterday by a Korean girl wanting donation for Africa. Her donation box had the request black wretch on it.When I gave her an emphatic NO! She scuttled away quickly.

I soon decided to see my very gay barber(Hairdresser if you must but he is outside the Army base and can do a good High and Tight). I told him what happened. I discovered his boyfriend is a White South African. As we discussed the SA issue his business partner was rap in attention. He had no idea the real history or the affects of the end of Apartheid.

People are very ignorant of history or reality.

W74 said...

MuayTyson,

On the way to Basic Training, I met the older gentleman sitting next to me.

I don't know how we got on the topic (probably because I told him I just joined the Army and I was on my way to basic) but he told me about his experiences in the SA Army. He told me was in around 1990-1994, during the run-up-to and official end of Apartheid.

And I thought WOW, the South African Army, how interesting!!! I'd never met anyone who'd ever served in a foreign military before, I was very young and hadn't traveled much before then.

Truth be told the guy was a bit of a DWL, and was sorry for what he saw and participated in. Odd, considering that when I met him he was a US citizen. Must've been a reason he left. But it got me thinking, it really got me thinking, and when I was finally able to see SA objectively I knew then where I stood.

Anonymous said...

"My fear with WIB is, if this is all some grand conspiracy, then the economic collapse is exactly what they want."

An economic collapse would be very dangerous to our rulers. It could spin out of control in very unpredictable ways. They would need enforcers to restore order but the enforcers themselves would be suffering as bad as the rest of us. We are in an economic crisis because our rulers arrogant belief in their flawed economic models and along with their lust for power and the ability to profit off of it.

Gil Not-Heron said...

Neil Armstrong died today
(with Sambo on the dole)
He’s done picked up and gone away
(and Sambo’s on the dole)
We can’t afford no moonshots now
(with Sambo on the dole)
Ten years from now we’ll be broke still
(with Sambo on the dole)
The man jus’ upped my taxes
(’cause Sambo’s on the dole)
No roads, no parks, no space program
(but Sambo’s on the dole)
I wonder why he’s uppin’ me
(cause Sambo’s on the dole?)
I paid over 50 grand last year
(with Sambo on the dole)
Taxes takin’ my whole damn check,
Gangstas makin’ me a nervous wreck,
The price of food is goin’ up,
An’ as if all that crap wuzn’t enough:
Neil Armstrong died today
(with Sambo on the dole)
He’s done picked up and gone away
(but Sambo’s on the dole)
Was all that money I made las’ year
(for Sambo on the dole?)
How come there ain’t no money here?
(Hmm! Sambo’s on the dole)
Y’know I jus’ ’bout had my fill
(of Sambo on the dole)
I think I’ll sen’ the taxman’s bills,
Airmail special
(to Sambo on the dole)

Anonymous said...

So they wanted to use the guise of Gibsmedat to stop one of the greatest achievements of mankind....why am I not surprised....don't go to da moon, Shitavious needs ta eats, gnomesayin?

Anonymous said...

Ex New Yorker here....About the moon. Everything the government sent into space back in the 1950's came back radioactive. It was called the VAN ALLEN BELT, which is a radioactive band that surrounds the earth. They took the radioactive space junk and encased it in lead and cement and buried it in the desert.
Years later. through some miracle of science NASA was able to send some space jockeys through the Van Allen Belt in a flying tuna fish can and nobody came back radioactive. Neither the space dudes or the tuna fish can were toxic. This was some amazing shit, kind of like the parting of the Red Sea.
Remember the outer space dune buggy. I think they called it a "Land Rover" or something. HOW DID IT GET THERE? NASA said they strapped it on the side of one of those "flying tuna fish cans." Yikes. More amazing shit.
And when you saw the "one big step for mankind" space dude climbing down the ladder. who was the guy that went before him to set up the camera to film this history making event. Wow. More amazing shit.
I love this country. People will believe any stupid bullshit they are told. Which of course is even more amazing shit.

Bogolyubski said...

@YIH: I wasn't planning to bring it up at all on this thread. It's a tired and worn cliche - even if the typical Republican argument it mocks is still far worse. Like the Moose-limbs, the party of Gay Old Pedophiles can't help but let their inner Sandusky shine forth as they thrust the dagger into the backs of the hapless folks who vote for them over and over expecting a different result. It's like Lucy and Charlie Brown with the football.

As I pointed out in the other thread, Mittens shows no sign that he's really all that interested in winning. Like the drooling old cancerous warmonger Juan McAmnesty before him, he refuses to attack the magic negro, no doubt because he is a true believer in the same type of genocidal ideology that the subject of this article is. Instead of doing something to shore up support among the majority populace - even if as a "dog-whistled" message, Mittens is spending valuable time genuflecting to La Raza and the groids who will never vote for him. It's a surefire strategy which has won great Republican victories in the past (not). And some people wonder why some of us think the whole damned process is a rigged farce from the start!

As for Randy Newman, if he's soooo convinced that negroids are wonderful, we must ask why he's not buying up some nice cheap property in Motown and moving his filthy-rich arse to settle there amongst the noble benobos so they can bask in the brilliance of his towering self-righteousness? He'd last about as long as J. Christopher Stevens did when the Sons of Allah let loose their inner Mohammed to gang-rape and kill the worthless DWL poofter. I sincerely wish they'd do the same to every single DWL out there. It would make the world a better place.

Anonymous said...

I would assert that Randy Newman is an example of liberal White ethnomasocism except that it's more accurate to point out that he's another pathetic example of the Jewish Gentilephobia which has plagued the liberal Jewish mind and - by extension - our nation.

It's understandable that WW2 and the Holocaust put a deep scar on the Psyche of Jewish people, but it's not excusable to continuously demonize an overwhelmingly innocent White population. We don't need to be mocked, shamed, diminished, etc. in order to prevent some mythical inner Nazi from busting out.
As the beautiful and brilliant Ilana Mercer stated in her latest book, not only are White Americans not remotely racist but they're very naive about real racial differences.

If Randy Newman wants to see the ugly face of racism he should look in the mirror.

J. Frank Parnell said...

An economic collapse would be very dangerous to our rulers. It could spin out of control in very unpredictable ways. They would need enforcers to restore order but the enforcers themselves would be suffering as bad as the rest of us. We are in an economic crisis because our rulers arrogant belief in their flawed economic models and along with their lust for power and the ability to profit off of it.

They want an economic collapse, but only after white Americans have been disarmed and muzzled. According to the plan, they were supposed to have done this by now, but we have stubbornly beaten back every attempt to do so. The economic collapse that they've engineered is right on time, though, and now they're fucked.

White Americans are probably the world's most heavily armed ethnic group. Just imagine what's going to happen when there's no more bread and circuses to keep us placated. The global elite will be swept from power and it's members will count themselves lucky if they're allowed to keep their heads. Any dystopia that visits us is likely to be only temporary and of the Mad Max variety, rather than of the boot-stamping-on-a-human-face-forever variety.

Lucas Evans said...

"My fear with WIB is, if this is all some grand conspiracy, then the economic collapse is exactly what they want."

I'd love to hear ideas on this. I don't think the globalists can predict bubbles, especially with pure fiat currency. The further away you get from the real economy, the more fragile and unpredictable the economy becomes. Simple barter is near 100% reliable and predictable. We have the extreme opposite, layered credit on fiat currency, no one has any idea what anything is really worth anymore.

I know they take advantage of recessions, like buying up land dirt cheap. If they really wanted to I'm sure they could engineer a crash, but why now? Whites are still a majority in their countries. We have pseudo-police states, but the Arab Spring threw off deeply entrenched police states. It seems much more advantageous to keep the "bread and circus" up and running for a few more decades, then cause a collapse.

It looks to me like they ran out of money before their plan could come to fruition. I don't know if they got too greedy or maybe they didn't realize how much black people cost. Soon they won't be able to pay the police, soldiers and veterans the pensions they promised. Soon they won't be able keep welfare recipients in a 1st world lifestyle.

The West is drifting right, BNP, GD, Tea Party are all growing. History is repeating itself, when hardship hits a population they automatically pull to the right and become more nationalistic. Some people say they want a race war, so it's being done on purpose. If they really wanted a race war they could engineer one at any time, instead they are glorifying their pets more than ever while increasing censorship.

Anyone have other ideas?

Discard said...

J. Frank Parnell: The Germans and Japanese rebuilt after having most of their cities smashed and millions of their people killed. So could we, after the collapse of BRA with all the attendant destruction. The greatest resource any nation has is its people, not its money.

World_War_Me said...

I second So CAL Snowman on Dave McGowan's "Wag the Moondoggie". The moon landing has always seemed sort of...unbelievable, to me, if you will. Of course, I was born way after it happened. I've always flipped flopped on the matter. McGowan has left me with no doubt it's a hoax.

And indeed, it is HILARIOUS; a true joy to read. His descriptions of the primitive LEM is brilliant and laugh-out-loud funny.

Good call, So Cal Snowman!

eah said...

Obama is the perfect affirmative action president: it doesn't matter that he's a jerk and a racial demagogue, not to mention totally un-presidential, the only thing that matters is that he's black. It was an act of redemption to elect him. And it will be rescidivist if he isn't re-elected.

Zenster said...

To those who doubt the Apollo lunar landings:

If American, you are a disgrace to your nation and actively undermine the entire White race with such saucer-eyed conspiracy theories.

Between your "truther" stance about the 9-11 atrocity and, now this, So CAL Snowman, you have lost any and all credibility that you might once have had.

Jeff! said...

@Californian:

Blade Runner? Replicants were created in Blade Runner in order to mine the asteroid belt. We're close to the dystopia with none of the tech.

@Gil Not-Heron:
It's sad because it's all true.

I'm glad to see Zenster keeps his Occam's Razor well stropped. The Lunar landing conspiracy is mind-boggling, since it requires the complicity of so many people, who would stand to make a lot of money if they spoke out.

Anonymous said...

"We have pseudo-police states, but the Arab Spring threw off deeply entrenched police states."

The "Arab Spring" as well as the "Color Revolutions" in the former USSR were engineered by our rulers via USAID and the National Endowment for Democracy (headed by Carl Gershman, an admitted socialist appointed by RONALD REAGAN).

I suspect but cannot prove that the current uproar over the Mohammed videos and cartoons are also deliberate provocations.

Anonymous said...

I keep an open mind about conspiracies. If you think about it, many crimes are secretly planned by two or more people. That is by definition a conspiracy. The assassinations of Caesar and Lincoln were conspiracies. So was the attempted assassination of Truman. Watergate, Iran-Contra were conspiracies. Even the US government's explanation of 9-11 is a conspiracy. And Federal law also has conspiracy as a crime on the books which prosecutors always throw in as a charge. I think the JFK assassination was a conspiracy (but no shots were fired from the "grassy knoll" since it is a terrible place to shoot from). I have ALOT of doubts about 9-11 but don't understand the need for controlled demolition if the planes were already hijacked (insurance money?).

I reject the claim that the Apollo lunar missions were hoaxes. In the late 1990's there was an HBO series about the Apollo missions "From the Earth to the Moon." It represented the best cinematography technology available 30 years after Apollo. Yet it still looks fake.

The Van Allen belts are not radioactive. They are nothing like a dirty bomb. They are magnetically trapped charged particles that produce x-ray like radiation if they strike a metal wall such as a spacecraft. Like an x-ray, they leave no residual radiation. Additionally there were cosmic rays and solar mass ejections that produced similar types of radiation exposure but no contamination requiring burial. Perhaps there is some confusion over the disposal of equipment after testing nuclear powered rockets in the Nevada desert.

It would have been easier to do the landings than to fake them. There is no way it could have been covered up as eventually, space probes will photograph the landing sites and show the absence of evidence. That has happened by both US and Japanese spacecraft.

The contractors had no motivation to participate in such a scheme. They got paid whether the equipment was used or not.

In the future, I will have to consider the credibility of those that have posted a belief that the landings were faked.

jedsrael said...

Newman said he's proud of how America has progressed, though, but adds that "there's a long way to go."


PK- you should write a public letter to Newman:

"When we stride forward over that 'long way to go' and finally get there, what will it look like? What will your neighborhood look like? Any changes? Better? Worse? If it looks more Diverse than it does now, will you add extra security, or just assume that 'all's well' because we finally did the right thing and 'got there'?"

Anonymous said...

To Harold C-

We owe them much more than contempt- we owe them contempt in abundance.

Anonymous said...

CA snowman:

I didn't read the entire article. How does the gentleman account for the laser range finders and photos and other evidence from recent Chinese, Indian and Japanese probes?

Discard said...

How come GPS works if there is no way to counter the Van Allen radiation belts? How come Google Earth can show me a photo of any map coordinate from space? How do international phone calls work without satellites?
Just because some technology is beyond my or your understanding doesn't mean it's not real. This computer I'm using is just a magic box to me, but that doesn't make it non-existent. Not even the Soviets accused us of faking the Moon landing. Don't be fools.

Mr. Rational said...

Hey, let me try this!

Niggas die of AIDS today
(while I say "GIBSMEDAT!")
Don't need no condom, go away!
(while I say "GIBSMEDAT!")
Leech off that workin' cracka jerk
(while I say "GIBSMEDAT!")
And rob that Arab station clerk
(I tell him "GIBSMEDAT!")
I loves me my free "sail foam" shit
(T-Mobile, GIBSMEDAT!)
I don't care who invented it
(while I say "GIBSMEDAT!")
Strip that cell tower for its wire
(while I say "GIBSMEDAT!")
And then set the remains on fire
(while I say "GIBSMEDAT!")
I gets all my food for free
It comes right off my EBT
I use it at the KFC
I just say "GIBSMEDAT!"
Reparations are my due
(while I say "GIBSMEDAT!")
From every YT, that means you
(while I say "GIBSMEDAT!")
Our Black Footsoldiers Network men
(all shouting "GIBSMEDAT!")
Are grabbing everything they can
(while they say "GIBSMEDAT!")
You owe it to us, don't resist
(while we say "GIBSMEDAT!")
We'll kill you if you get us pissed
(while we say "GIBSMEDAT!")
The things we grab all come to squat
We're always wanting what you got
We're jealous 'cause you're what we're not
So we say "GIBSMEDAT!"

Silent Running said...

The Lunar landing conspiracy is mind-boggling, since it requires the complicity of so many people, who would stand to make a lot of money if they spoke out.

And it's for this reason that I take a dim view of The Great Conspiracy™.

Others have noted that our troubles began not in 1960, but much earlier, closer to the turn of the century. So the GC would necessarily be multi-generational. It would have to chug along all but flawlessly for decade after decade, during which no information is ever leaked through carelessness and no member of the GC itself ever becomes disillusioned enough to turn on the group. It would also require a superhuman ability to stay 10 steps ahead of fickle trends and the myriad variables that make up human interaction. I find that fanciful.

Throughout history, very intelligent people have harbored (and acted upon) fantastically wrongheaded beliefs. Everyone reading this knows at least one person who would sooner die than reject anti-racism. In my opinion, this aspect of human nature is more than enough to explain our current predicament. Occam's Razor is very valuable, especially when it is supplemented with Hanlon's Razor.

Mr. Anon said...

"Anonymous said...

Ex New Yorker here....About the moon. Everything the government sent into space back in the 1950's came back radioactive. It was called the VAN ALLEN BELT, which is a radioactive band that surrounds the earth"

You are an ignoramous. The Van Allen Belt is a region where charged particles are trappend by the Earth's magnetic field. As such it has a higher plasma density than the rest of the Earth's magnetosphere. Exposure to it does not render something radioactive.

"They took the radioactive space junk and encased it in lead and cement and buried it in the desert."

No they didn't. You don't know what you are talking about.

"Remember the outer space dune buggy. I think they called it a "Land Rover" or something. HOW DID IT GET THERE? NASA said they strapped it on the side of one of those "flying tuna fish cans.""

Yeah, how could japanese cars possibly get to America? Everyone knows that cars must - must! - be built where they are used. It must all be a conspiracy!

"And when you saw the "one big step for mankind" space dude climbing down the ladder. who was the guy that went before him to set up the camera to film this history making event. Wow."

Yeah, because it's impossible - impossible! - to mount a camera on the side of a vehicle and operate it remotely.

You - and those who believe as you do - are idiots. Gullible, witless idiots.

Jeff! said...

I was worried when I saw all the comments about the moon landing being faked. My faith in the race-realism movement has been restored by those of you stepping up in the name of reason.

Stuff Black People Don't Like said...

Of course we went to the moon. We'd be on Mars were it not for paying for Black dysfunction.

Anonymous said...

Ex New Yorker again....So the Lunar Module (LM) had a TV camera attached to it and it ran by remote control. TV cameras are not small. Was this before the days of the mini-cam. Maybe it was hooked on one of the landing struts. Wow. Amazing shit.
Remember the famous photo of the foot print which was embedded in WET SAND OR DIRT. You cannot leave a footprint like that in DRY SAND or DRY DIRT. Go to the beach and try it. To save you the long trip, just go anywhere there is some dry dirt. Where I live we have a drought and I am having no luck leaving a half inch foot print. When you try it, let me know how it turns out. Any forensic detective will tell you that to leave a print that visible would take about a day or so of rain. Hey, I just figured it out. It must have rained on the moon the day before they got there. Maybe they brought along a remote controlled LAWN SPRINKLER. Golly. Gee. Wow. More amazing shit.
And in almost all the photos the background is always grey and not as bright and lit up as the foreground. Go to the beach and take a photo in the daytime. The sun light in the background is as bright as the foreground. It is the same any where on earth, except on the moon. Golly. Gosh. Darn. More amazing shit.

Anonymous said...

Ex New Yorker again....The reason we stopped going to the moon was we didn't find any oil. We are hoping our luck will change on Mars.

Anonymous said...

Very comical Mr. Rational. If you ever find yourself economically below the norm try starting a jungle rap crap so called music career. Your garbage jibba jabba belongs on a different forum and not Mr. P.K.'s

Zenster said...

To everyone here at SBPDL who have so adamantly opposed all of the monster raving loon conspiracy theories devoted to denying America's lunar landings:

I THANK YOU.

[Yes, you too, Mr. Rational]

Last year, I walked a dear friend of mine through what is possibly the world's finest exhibit of computer technology. After describing to him exhibits of everything from the Jacquard Loom (a miniature salesman's model) and its inspiration of Luddite madness all the way through explanations of how the I, II & III variants of the Cray Supercomputers (all on display) worked, he turned to me and said: (paraphrased)

"My son insisted about computers being such advanced technology that they had to have been introduced by aliens because humans could never have invented them.

Now that I've seen this display, I know you're right and that they were the product of human invention."

Ex New Yorker: Was this before the days of the mini-cam.

I hate to contradict such vociferous anti-conspiracy ranting but some of the Apollo missions carried a handheld color video camera the size of a large paperback book. Read all about the Apollo cameras here.

Finally, one need merely examine video sequences of the lunar regolith's dust whenever it is kicked up, especially by the rover's wheels. Notice how if falls so abruptly to the ground instead of lingering in the "air"?

That's because there is very, very little "air" in the moon's negligible atmosphere. The only way to have "faked" such effects would have been to have that entire lunar landscape set inside of a massive near-deep space high vacuum chamber. We're talking about something of almost an acre's dimensions being held a millimicron atmospheric pressures.

Again, a construct of such massive proportions would have strained the very limits of existing technology and also would have required such manpower to build and operate that there is no conceivable way information about it wouldn't have eventually leaked out.

As I said, the Lunar Operations Opposition Networks (LOONS™ for short) and the 9-11 "Truthers" are in a shared class of treacherous anti-American and, yes, anti-White types. To deny White America both its glory among nations and justifiable rage at its true enemies points toward a meagerness of the soul that may well be irreparable.

World_War_Me said...

Zenster, you've lost a fan out of me. Not that you care, as you obviously have no sense of loyalty or rationality. You used to be my favorite commenter despite your obnoxious and obtuse writing style.

You lost me not because you disagree with my position on the moon landing, but because of your exclusionary policy of rejecting "hoaxers" from the race realist camp.

We should stick together, but you want to throw us out. You are a danger to the stability of our cause.

Discard said...

Ex New Yorker: The moon has no atmosphere, so light does not diffuse as it does on Earth and the photos look odd.
And since there is no atmosphere, there is no wind or weather to scatter or wash away dust. Without water, dust does not compact into a hard clay. It was a real concern at the time that any lunar lander might land in deep dust and simply sink and disappear. That's why they looked for a landing site with some rocks scattered about, figuring that rocks would disappear if the dust were very thick. And since the Moon's gravity is one sixth's that of Earth, the angle of repose for sand and dust is greater on the Moon, which means that it will form a steeper slope before collapsing, which in turn means deeper, sharper footprints.
And you don't have to hang an entire video camera outside the spacecraft, just a lens. But I don't know that it would matter anyway. Since the lunar lander worked in zero atmosphere, there was no wind resistance and any sort of object could be attached.

Mr. Anon said...

"Ex New Yorker again....

So the Lunar Module (LM) had a TV camera attached to it and it ran by remote control. TV cameras are not small. Was this before the days of the mini-cam."

NASA commissioned small, light-weight cameras for the Apollo project:

http://echoesofapollo.com/2009/07/how-we-got-apollo-11-video-back-from-the-moon/

"Remember the famous photo of the foot print which was embedded in WET SAND OR DIRT. You cannot leave a footprint like that in DRY SAND or DRY DIRT."

Right, so when they were faking the moon landing in a sound-studio, they sprayed water on the the dirt that was raked out on the floor so as to make it look LESS like the moon. Because they were that stupid.

Pour out a sack of flour on the floor, and step in it. You will leave a foot-print, though the flour is bone dry. You can do the same with fine dry dirt.

You did not know that, because you are a nitwit - there are many things you don't know.

"Golly. Gee. Wow. More amazing shit."

I guess that everything seems amazing to someone as stupid as you are.

Zenster said...

Anon (9/21 9:44 PM): Remember the famous photo of the foot print which was embedded in WET SAND OR DIRT. You cannot leave a footprint like that in DRY SAND or DRY DIRT. Go to the beach and try it.

Please purchase a clue. The topmost portion of the lunar regolith is exceptionally fine dust. Not "DRY SAND", not "DRY DIRT" but DUST with a 20-90µ particle size being relatively predominate (PDF). By comparison, earth's beach sand is in the range of 100-10,000µ. That's between five and one thousand times larger in average diameter. Imagine how well you could make a detailed footprint in powdered cayanne pepper (particle size = 15-1,000µ).

Have you ever made a footprint in freshly fallen snow and marveled at its precise replication of detail? That is how the lunar surface behaves.

Yeesh! Get real, would you?

Zenster said...

World_War_Me: You lost me not because you disagree with my position on the moon landing, but because of your exclusionary policy of rejecting "hoaxers" from the race realist camp.

People who deny the incredible achievements of largely White America's aerospace programs cannot be anything but anti-White. If you truly understood the capacity for genius that Whites have, you would never doubt that we could repeatedly land on and return from the moon. Hell, there are even images taken by the space telescope of the lunar landing sites. Even earth-bound telescopes are capable of resolving the Apollo landing sites.

We should stick together, but you want to throw us out. You are a danger to the stability of our cause.

You cannot be a Race Realist and anti-White at the same time, at least not if you are a White person. Your membership in the Tinfoil Hat Brigade™ is nothing but a liability to Race Realism's overall credibility. What makes it so hard for you to imagine that the bloodlines which spawned Da Vinci, Galileo, Newton, Edison and Einstein might have conquered such an intermediate challenge as landing on and returning from the moon?

Saying that Whites had to rely upon fraud instead of their astounding skill is nothing but a projection of self-hatred and self-loathing that lands you squarely in the Culturally Marxist enemy camp. Get over it!

Doktor_Kuhn said...

Here's a juicy little Randy Newman tidbit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfTtGTgJUW4

For a moment I thought Johnny Rebel had released a new tune.

Zenster said...

World_War_Me: Zenster, you've lost a fan out of me. Not that you care, as you obviously have no sense of loyalty or rationality. You used to be my favorite commenter despite your obnoxious and obtuse writing style.

You lost me not because you disagree with my position on the moon landing, but because of your exclusionary policy of rejecting "hoaxers" from the race realist camp.

We should stick together, but you want to throw us out. You are a danger to the stability of our cause.


Here's a clue (also known as a "thought experiment").

Try denying that White people invented and built the atomic bomb.

There's the same relative body of physical evidence for that and the moon landings.

Maybe now you have a slight understanding of just how moronic you appear to sane people and why they might want nothing to do with your sort regardless of race or the Race Realism "cause".

Discard said...

Mr Anon: I see a similarity between your bag of flour poured out on the floor, and fine lunar dust undisturbed by any atmosphere or weather. Both are uncompacted. A boot would sink into them until they were compacted enough to support the weight, leaving a deeper than usual footprint.

Mr. Anon said...

"World_War_Me said...

We should stick together, but you want to throw us out."

My cause is not helped by people who espouse ridiculous nonsense.

Those who believe as you do can have your own "Truther"/Moon-Hoax WN cause. You can believe that the Nazis were just misunderstood humanitarians (albeit humanitarians with deaths-head skulls on their hats). Believe in Gaia and crystal-power and scientology for all I care. But don't expect that the rest of us will want to be associated with you.

Leave the rest of us - those who don't question the most obvious and manifest truths, simply so that we can imagine ourselves to be some kind of low-rent gnostic seers - to our own movement, one based on common sense.

Good riddance.

Mr. Rational said...

(re-repost)

ZensterThe only way to have "faked" such effects would have been to have that entire lunar landscape set inside of a massive near-deep space high vacuum chamber.

Actually, it's much harder to fake than that.  The material kicked up by feet and thrown off by rover wheels falls far too slowly to have been done anywhere on Earth, vacuum chamber or no.  The only way to "simulate" that would be to make everything six times as big, meaning that the "men in suits" would have had to have been very sophisticated android robots over 30 feet tall.  The conspiracy theorists don't have an explanation for why we don't have such robots today, yet the microchips required for the Apollo electronics did appear on the market and in fact started the PC revolution just a few years later.

Ex-New Yorker's objection about footprints has a simple explanation:  vacuum cementing.  The reason dust flows so readily on Earth is because air molecules alter the surface properties of dust particles; in hard vacuum, they're far more sticky.  The properties of Moon dust (the proper term is "regolith") have been known since the Surveyor landers.

Anonymous' objection to my parody ignores that it's... parody.  Obtuse.

Mr. Rational said...

World_War_MeYou lost me ... because of your exclusionary policy of rejecting "hoaxers" from the race realist camp.

I'm sure that both Zenster and I would also call for rejecting platygeans and anti-vaxxerss.  It's hard enough to argue against the reigning dogma on race without having everything we say associated with laughably false nonsense.  How can we call for others to look at evidence, while associating with people who reject evidence?  We have given you evidence.  Read it and learn already.

Zenster said...

Mr. Rational, thank you for the valuable corrections and clarifications. This lunar landing "hoax" balderdash needs to be ridiculed at every turn, just as the 9-11 atrocity "truthers" need their own dose of salts.

As you already noted, general acceptance of Race Realism faces such huge political and social obstacles that no accommodation of easily disproved conspiracy theories can be allowed to compromise such an important goal.

Affirmative Action and Disparate Impact both need to go the way of the dinosaurs. The sooner the better.

Your inclusion of myself in reply to World_War_Me was perfectly acceptable and I will ask that you do not hesitate in the future to make similarly based assumptions.

Again, thank you.

Mr. Anon said...

"Mr. Rational said...

We have given you evidence. Read it and learn already."

It's funny how they never do, though, isn't it? They'll ask how it was possible to go to the moon, given the Van Allen Belts, without six feet of lead shielding, and then when you explain to them that the dose is not that high, that lead shielding is not required (in fact, lead is exactly what you don't want for shielding), they're reply is......nothing - they instantly forget about that point and it's on to their next piece of "evidence". When you shoot that down, then they're on to the next. It's like arguing with somebody who has no short-term memory. I'd almost say it is a dishonest tactic of argumentation, except I don't think they are being dishonest. I would characterize it more as an agressive, willful stupidity, arising from a belief that only clever people believe things that most people don't, so therefore if they believe something unusual, it must make them clever. It's cargo-cult intellectualism.

Mr. Rational said...

"cargo-cult intellectualism".  I like it.

I'm not sure it's really accurate, though.  It's more like it's the pre-rational, concensus-based dogmatism which is the default for all humanity.  We take on the positions of our mentors and peers, because questioning them is both mentally difficult and socially risky.