BUD/S Training for Navy SEALs: Where's the diversity? |
Big news today is that Mark Owen (a pseudonym to protect his identity), the author of No Easy Day – which tells the story of the Navy SEALs team that took out Osama Bin Laden – didn't want their action to help re-elect Mein Obama [New York Times, September 2, 2012]:
It is only after the George W. Bush presidency that the author begins complaining about the slow-moving “Washington machine” that members of the SEALs found frustrating. That irritation mounts in 2011, when the SEALs anxiously awaited their signal to raid Abbottabad, but this account is determined to steer clear of serious politics or leave itself open to election-season manipulation. The worst it has to say about President Obama is that none of the fighters who caught bin Laden wanted to help re-elect him, and that he never followed through on a promise to invite them to the White House for a beer.
The Navy SEALs are, of course, the best soldiers, fighters, and warriors our nation produces. Unfortunately, they are "too white" for the current leadership of Black-Run America (BRA). What’s important to note here is that the following article nails the exact number, the threshold, required for an organization to be deemed "too white" (SEALs reach out to increase diversity, Navy Times, April 18, 2012):
The Navy’s special warfare community has grown in size over the past few years but still remains overwhelmingly white. It’s a statistic officials are working hard to change.
Today’s force of SEALs and SWCCs, or special warfare combatant-craft crewmen, is roughly 85 percent white, according to Naval Special Warfare Command in Coronado, Calif. That’s much higher than the Navy overall — which in 2010 was about 64 percent white, according to the Defense Manpower Data Center — and is also out of whack with the cultural environments in which today’s SEALs operate.
That gap remains despite concerted efforts by Naval Special Warfare Command to seek more minority candidates and expand its overall recruiting pitch to get more SEALs and SWCCs to fill the larger force mandated by Congress. But as the community grew in size, the command also beefed up standards and requirements during the 26-week SEAL Qualification Training, causing graduation rates to drop across all ethnicities.
“Where we stand today is, we have more work to do,” said Capt. Duncan Smith, a SEAL who heads Naval Special Warfare Command’s recruiting directorate.
“We absolutely have a need for operational diversity. For us to train with our special operations partner nations, our mission is more easily accomplished if we have people with the cultural and racial identities that allow us to create lasting relationships to better understand our partner forces,” Smith said.
But recent years’ efforts, which included tailoring marketing to minorities and reaching out to historically black colleges and universities, fell flat in attracting more minorities to the Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL course and follow-on SQT.
So the command is casting the net wide again, getting outside help to market to minority populations and taking a more coherent look at targeting communities with potential minority candidates — not just blacks.
A recent directive from Rear Adm. Sean Pybus, head of Naval Special Warfare Command, expanded the range of targeted minorities to young men of Asian and Arab descent, as well as Hispanics.
“We are moving the needle, but it is a slow process. It takes time,” Smith said.
Recent efforts to reach more blacks helped to better understand the community, he said.
“We have really learned or developed a template that allows us to better understand ... a culture that we may not have been heavily engaged in,” he said. “So we built a road map on how to build trust ... and respect in the minority communities.”
Don’t expect to see quotas, however.
“We have no numeric goal for diversity. This is not a quota-based operation,” Smith said. “This is really just wanting to make progress and to better prepare our force to conduct overseas operations.”“As it turns out, what got you here, with your opportunity with the NFL, is a lot about what makes the SEAL program successful,” Pybus told one group at a session supported by members of Naval Special Warfare Group 2. Several SEALs joined in the visits, meeting athletes and sharing their stories, including a SEAL lieutenant who had played college football before enlisting in the Navy.
Recruiting and marketing efforts are being stepped up in San Diego and Norfolk, Va., where SEALs and SWCCs have joined in local swim programs geared toward children and young adults, as well as in Detroit and Dearborn, Mich., home to large concentrations of blacks and Arab-Americans. The swim programs provide community service and show that swimming skills can be taught to those who never swam in a pool or in the ocean.
This year, the command also extended its reach by participating in nine of the NFL’s regional scouting combines, where prospective players show off their skills.
Nearly 100 of the 1,900 athletes, about 80 percent of whom were minorities, asked for more information about naval special warfare or becoming a SEAL, Smith said, adding, “that is a pool of 100 young talented men. That right there is success for us.”
Of course, the entire military is "too white" (Lawmakers: Military falling behind on diversity, Marine Corp Times, March 6, 2012), so going to NFL combines to recruit for potential officers or minority-members to fulfill the desire of finding qualified Black – and Brown– candidates makes sense. Just don't check their Wonderlic scores.
Dick Couch, a former Navy SEAL and author of The Warrior Elite: The Forging of Class 228 and numerous other books on Special Forces and the SEALs, told Brian Lamb of C-SPAN this about the need for diversity and Black candidates in a politically incorrect interview that broaches taboo subjects like human biodiversity:
Dick Couch, a former Navy SEAL and author of The Warrior Elite: The Forging of Class 228 and numerous other books on Special Forces and the SEALs, told Brian Lamb of C-SPAN this about the need for diversity and Black candidates in a politically incorrect interview that broaches taboo subjects like human biodiversity:
LAMB: I noticed in all the video we see, and most of the film, you see almost no minorities. You see one or two, but most of them are white boys.
COUCH: Yes, that is an issue. I think it has to do with water skills.And they stress them in the pool. They tie their hands and feet together, and they have to be able to grab a bite of air and deal with that. And if you’re very negatively buoyant, it does create challenges.
Within the SEALs, it’s how many kids played in the swimming pool when they were growing up, and how many played in the fire hydrant out in the street. Those water skills almost have to be taught at a very young age to be comfortable in the water.
A secondary thing is with a lot of black men, they have very dense muscle mass, so they’re very negatively buoyant in the water. And this can be very challenging when you’re asked to perform in the water.
LAMB: Is it an issue that’s talked about?
COUCH: Yes. I mean, how do we get more of these good black kids to come into BUD/S and to get through BUD/S?
And it’s the same in Army Special Forces and the same in our Ranger regiment. We just don’t have as many minorities as we would like.
No organization, not even the vaunted Navy SEALs, are free of criticism if they dare neglect to do everything possible to include enough Black participants.
It should be obvious that Mein Obama didn't invite the SEALs who liquidated Osama Bin Laden to drop by the White House for a celebratory beer for one simple reason: they were all-white and weren't representative of the type of Navy SEALs that are needed in BRA.
85 percent is "too white" in the eyes of BRA -- let that be known for any organization, company, club or vocation that requires a specialized skill, that the Navy SEALs are under assault for being "too white."
It should be obvious that Mein Obama didn't invite the SEALs who liquidated Osama Bin Laden to drop by the White House for a celebratory beer for one simple reason: they were all-white and weren't representative of the type of Navy SEALs that are needed in BRA.
85 percent is "too white" in the eyes of BRA -- let that be known for any organization, company, club or vocation that requires a specialized skill, that the Navy SEALs are under assault for being "too white."
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What's the other 15 percent?
Of course, swimming is not the real issue, but it provides a good excuse.
It's not just swimming.
It's self control, obeying orders,
submitting to authority, team attitude, not playing the race card, not having the American black chip on your shoulder. It's also education, reading and technical skills. Today's soldier must be able to read, understand high tech stuff to work today's weapons systems.
I know a black Navy SEAL good guy smart and respectful. I find it funny but with out sports or (c)rap successful blacks act White.
We in America must respect shitty black culture but for a black to be truly successful he must act odd isn't it? I've never herd an Asian who wears a suit, is respectful, does the corporate thing is never said to be acting White. He is just acting successful.
Multiculturalism is very confusing.
Ex-Lincolnite here:
Because all we need is more blacks diluting our nation's elite fighting forces.
I mean the goal of BRA is to ruin the United States. The goal of most blacks in the public sphere is to destroy our nation's ability to defend itself. As the regular forces of our nation become more and more colored, is it any wonder that the country has to rely more and more on special forces that are mostly white (and by mostly white, we mean educable, respectful of authority, and self-starters)?
Obama is a problem. The SEALs are entitled to their view, but Mitt Romney is not the answer either. Face it, Mitt Romney will have us in a war with Iran at the earliest possible moment. I don't like either of them, but what I do enjoy the SEALs and their attack on the horrific nergroid in the White House.
Instead of using special forces to attack Iran and Iraq, perhaps we could use them in places like South Chicago, Omaha, and Detroit? I know the posse comitatus laws exist, but how much damage are the blacks going to be able to inflict before they become the same a enemies of the state?
Go SEALs but don't get your hopes up that Mitt Romney is the answer for any of our nation's ills.
Water skills and aptitude ARE a big part of the problem. Pure blacks generally are very poor swimmer material, being both negatively buoyant and having no self-control at a certain level. I have never met a black who was a good swimmer who was not clearly partly non-black.
Obama hates the SEALS. He sends form letters to the parents of fallen SEALS, yet sent a signed personal letter to the family of rapper Heavy D.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/08/obama-sent-personal-letter-of-condolence-to-rappers-family-sent-form-letter-to-families-of-fallen-seals/
85%???
That's all? There is no way the remaining 15% combined is Mexicans and blacks.
Any SEAL girls yet?
-Sweep the leg-
I can't wait for Constipated Feedback's take on elite warriors, and how the white man robbed the black of his superior ability to swim.
I would like to hear Bryant Gumball's take on all this. He laughed at the winter olympics because it's all white. Ha ha. The SEAL's are sort of the winter olympics of real world failure for blacks. They COULD dominate....they just don't want to?
-Sweep the leg-
On a related note, Hollywood is making a movie about the killing of Bin Laden due out just before the election. Anyone want to bet that in that flick the Seal who shoots Bin Laden will be played by a black actor?
The REAL reason the powers that be want a "Diverse" Military is that a majority White military won't disregard it's oath to uphold the Constitution when ordered to fire an American civilians in the not too distant future.
Orcs, Border jumpers & butch lesbians that hate White America?... no problem.
Are you preparing YET?
Semper Fi in Mississippi
Ex New Yorker here...Black Seals will be just the beginning. Next it will be WOMEN SEALS and then GAY SEALS. All you have to do is get all the talking heads that Pravda can produce and rile up the Proles about RIGHTS and other bullshit. Any time the word Homophobia is used the libs will rally to the cause. Interview some gays who think it is a sign of HATE if they can't become Navy Seals. Then after the FEMALE and GAY Seal Teams have all meet with approval by the Pajama People, they will all join up for the next cause who's rights are being denied. After a long and hard struggle we will finally have MIDGET SEAL TEAMS.
I spent 12 years in the military, 4in the infantry, 8 on subs. Very, very different cultures, with one thing in common: overwhelmingly white, with some hispanics and Asians mixed in. Almost no blacks. Any MOS or rating that requires courage, smarts, technical ability or a clean criminal record will be black free.
But how can that be? Aren't blacks over 20% of the armed forces? Yes, and certain rates and MOS's (cook, clerk, storekeeper) are predominantly black. Mostly clockwatchers waiting to hit their 20.
I can imagine the frustration of these warriors - they must look at the nation and its direction and ask, "What I am defending?"
The remaining 15% of the SEALs are mostly White Hispanics, like Cubans, Philoppinoes, Pacific Islanders, and the odd mulatto and mestizo.
I'm guessing the Marine Corps will be forced to change it's motto to "The few, The pround and the quota fillers". The SeALs have long prided themselves on being the best of the best with absolutely no compromises made in their selection and training process.....to try to force upon them any form of "required diversity" would require a compromise.
We absolutely have a need for operational diversity.
Nevermind that "operational diversity" leads only to Senegalese raping German women in the Rhineland. I have read many accounts of the friction caused by the "operational diversity" of imperial armies; I've yet to read of an army that functions more smoothly because of its disparate parts. Note that the push for more diversity is being sold on the basis of more globalism.
This is excellent news in the long run. I want to see more diversity, more quotas, and fewer standards. I want more competent white men to accept an ETS in disgust. I'd be overjoyed to see a SEAL team made up of blacks, Mestizos, queers and single mothers. A force of 10,000 mongrel SEAL's would be less effective than the 1800 whites currently serving.
Combat arms is almost exclusively a cacasiun occupation, in all branches. Support and services is heavily intergrated, but combat teams, and the pointy end of the spear is still mostly "lily white".
The people outside the wire tend to be white, protecting the people inside the wire, I have been in both places, and felt safer outside the wire with limited numbers of fellow professionals, rather than inside the wire with the " me firster's", and "I will never have to do that"er's, that make up support elements. I can fit into a team, but don't perform so well when the team is just me, and no backup.
If non-whites wanted to be combat arms, or special services( seals, rangers, green berets, para jumpers) all they needed to do is meet the standards, how fair is that. DO NOT LOWER STANDARDS TO ACHIEVE A PC HAPPY NOTE, AND CAUSE GOOD PEOPLE TO DIE FOR YOUR QUOTAS. IT ONLY IS A ELITE GROUP IF ONLY ELITE WARRIORS ARE ADMITTED TO THE CLUB, when you lower entrance levels to meet social engineering demands you remove their only advantage.
"Face it, Mitt Romney will have us in a war with Iran at the earliest possible moment."
There are some here (fortunately a small minority) that think this is a good thing.
White Americans will be the loser in such a war. We will pay for it in taxes as well as do almost all the fighting. Because we make the best use of what limited freedoms are still left, our freedoms will get further eroded.
Blacks are not "negatively buoyant" but simply have never been taught to swim. Look at any SEAL's physique -- they are built for endurance not strength. In most SEAL weeding out sessions, the big guys with big builds buckle, rapidly, as they can't take the pounding from running, the heat, the stress on ankles and feet, and the cold and the wet.
NFL-style physiques are built for a short sprint and then a blow. They can't cling to a side of a rock in the surf for a day, or exit a sub 100 feet down, in near freezing water, staying cold and wet for hours. Their physiques alone mitigate against this.
This leaves out IQ, ability to follow orders, navigate, learn complex weapons systems, endure pain, and work as a team without panic. Etc.
Oh we will get war with Iran, sooner or later. It is about oil, and money, and who controls the Gulf and sets the world price of oil, to benefit Putin and the Mullah's plans for spending, or the American economy.
What, you thought that you could HAVE all those nice things, like gas you can afford to buy, and a car not a mini-Trabant atrocity, and not have to PAY FOR THEM? Really?
Next you'll be telling me you thought that "diversity makes us stronger" and that nonsense.
Sorry, Deion Sanders and the Manning Brothers will not magically appear as oil fairies and throw magic at your gas tank to fill it. Control of the gulf leads to control of the oil prices, so you will get war, that much is certain, on whose terms, for how much blood and treasure, and how certain a victory, that is to be determined.
Again as far as swimming goes, this Black Olympic Silver Medalist Swimmer looks plenty Black to me. Swimming is a skill. It must be learned. That generally requires two parents to pay for pool fees and coaching. If your form is not perfect, you will go nowhere fast despite how strong you are. You can never get stronger than water. You can't just bully it. You have to move the way the water demands it. Most Black guys with physical gifts can't understand this, and try to fight water like they would a homie. And fail.
The worst it has to say about President Obama is that none of the fighters who caught bin Laden wanted to help re-elect him, and that he never followed through on a promise to invite them to the White House for a beer.
Invite Dr. Henry "Do you know who I am?" Gates and a White cop who "acted stupidly" for a beer? Sure thing, just so long as it showcases 0bama's racial agenda.
Invite the Special Operations team that took down the 9-11 Atrocity's mastermind? No way. Not if they're too damned White!
The Navy’s special warfare community has grown in size over the past few years but still remains overwhelmingly white. It’s a statistic officials are working hard to change.
If there is one group for which individual merit remains paramount above all other qualifications, it is America's Special Operations Forces. They represent the very tip of our military spear. These brave men put themselves in harm's way first before all others. They are the very definition of courage, loyalty, patriotism and self-sacrifice.
Presented with that veritable laundry list of ultimate virtues, where does race enter into the equation? Answer: NOWHERE!
Defending our nation isn't about race, much to the shock and dismay of 0bama and his melanin-obsessed ilk. It is about recruiting those with the greatest skills who can best preserve our Republic and its Constitution.
What 0bama and his minions seem to have such a difficult time grasping is that, if the Republic and its Constitution are preserved, that best upholds every last tenet of racial equality in the eyes of the law.
Of course, preservation of the Republic and its Constitution is not the goal of these mincing pantywaists. They would rather compromise national security by downgrading the performance of Special Operations Forces just so long as it conforms to the goals of their racialist agenda.
The survival of America and its Constitution is secondary to their Dogma of Diversity™. There can be no other explanation and it is here where 0bama reveals how his personal ideology transcends even our nation's most paramount interests. This is NOT the definition of presidential qualification nor a patriot. That either should be found lacking in the other is a supreme danger.
That gap remains despite concerted efforts by Naval Special Warfare Command to seek more minority candidates and expand its overall recruiting pitch to get more SEALs and SWCCs to fill the larger force mandated by Congress. But as the community grew in size, the command also beefed up standards and requirements during the 26-week SEAL Qualification Training, causing graduation rates to drop across all ethnicities. [emphasis added]
What more could anyone ask but that Naval Command continues to impose the strictest standards for qualification as a Navy SEAL? Even if such requirements cause "graduation rates to drop across all ethnicities"? Is that not adequate proof of seeking out only the very cream (oops, that's a White adjective!) … the very elite (dangerously White, too!) … the very best from among its rank and file?
[to be continued]
Horse snot … I mean, of course not! Even if those standards cause "graduation rates to drop across all ethnicities", y'all gotta know that it's WAYCIST! What else could it be?
“Where we stand today is, we have more work to do,” said Capt. Duncan Smith, a SEAL who heads Naval Special Warfare Command’s recruiting directorate.
“We absolutely have a need for operational diversity. For us to train with our special operations partner nations, our mission is more easily accomplished if we have people with the cultural and racial identities that allow us to create lasting relationships to better understand our partner forces,” Smith said.
Echoes of General George Casey dismissing over a dozen killed and even more wounded at the hands of Islamic terrorist, Nidal Malik Hasan, while he spews his PCMC (Politically Correct Multi-Culturalist) bullshit about how:
"I'm concerned that this increased speculation could cause a backlash against some of our Muslim soldiers ... Our diversity, not only in our Army, but in our country, is a strength. And as horrific as this tragedy was, if our diversity becomes a casualty, I think that’s worse."
Remember what Conservative blogger Takuan Seiyo said about diversity:
“Diversity” is like Tabasco – add a ¼ spoonful to your grits, and you have a more lively and interesting dish. Add half a cup of the hot sauce, and you need an ambulance.
And yet, we are confronted with this sort of unmitigated bullshit:
“We have no numeric goal for diversity. This is not a quota-based operation,” Smith said. “This is really just wanting to make progress and to better prepare our force to conduct overseas operations.”
What sort of desirable ally would give a f&%k about skin color just so long as their own troops received the highest level of spec-ops training possible? Does a shared patois of Ebonics matter in discussing how best to aim a remotely sighted, laser guided JDAM? What does 0bama and his cadre of ineffectual, melanin-engorged apparatchicks really give a damn about?
COUCH: Within the SEALs, it’s how many kids played in the swimming pool when they were growing up, and how many played in the fire hydrant out in the street. Those water skills almost have to be taught at a very young age to be comfortable in the water.
Bullshit. Swimming and treading water can be taught at any age. If Blacks refuse to accept such marginal instruction, then they have no place in America's military Special Forces.
A secondary thing is with a lot of black men, they have very dense muscle mass, so they’re very negatively buoyant in the water. And this can be very challenging when you’re asked to perform in the water.
And this changes how our military needs operatives who can swim ashore through turbulent surf in exactly what sort of way?
Gaaaaaaah!!!
For more on the subject of small brained low IQ nigra in the military, see the results of a study done by the Rand corporation on this very important personnel issue.
http://www.vdare.com/posts/army-getting-lower-iq-recruits
poetic justice:
Washington (CNN) – A U-Haul truck loaded with equipment for a Monday event featuring Vice President Joe Biden was stolen in Detroit Sunday, a spokesman for the U.S. Secret Service said.
"A U-Haul that we were utilizing was stolen at the Westin Hotel overnight," Ed Donovan told CNN.
Donovan would not specify what equipment was in the U-Haul at the time it was stolen, and added that the theft shouldn't affect the vice president's plans on Monday.
Biden is scheduled to speak at a Labor Day rally in downtown Detroit Monday and march in a parade organized by the Michigan AFL-CIO. Last year President Barack Obama spoke at the Motor City's Labor Day celebration
Ex-Lincolnite:
Obama is a problem. The SEALs are entitled to their view, but Mitt Romney is not the answer either. Face it, Mitt Romney will have us in a war with Iran at the earliest possible moment. I don't like either of them, but what I do enjoy the SEALs and their attack on the horrific nergroid in the White House.
D'Won on d'downlow is a symptom of a much deeper and profound problem. If the SEALs regarded their oath to defend the constitution against enemies foreign and domestic with any more respect than they regard used toilet paper, they would turn their considerable lethal skills against the lawless banana republick regime headquartered in Sodom-on-Potomac and overthrow it with extreme prejudice, eliminating the endless cadre of treasonous criminals who inhabit the halls of the DOJ, DHS, FBI, BATFE, HHS, and others of the alphabet-soup in the process.
The fact that a treasonous, Marxist black-supremacist John Doe who goes by the moniker Barack Hussein Obama sits in the white house for 3 1/2 years says it all. He's merely the latest and most egregious (so far) of many outrages and perversions stretching back a century. If they're not aleady, the SEALs and other special-ops folks will soon be like their associates who work for Blackwater or whatever the hell its name is this week - paid thugs and killers for a lawless gang of psychpathic, genocidal criminals. No different from their counterparts in the South African security services who are busy rounding up any whites there who think about resisting the genocide being carried out by the ANC.
The Osama raid reeked to hugh heaven. The most evilest wanted-dead-or-alive fantasy action figure on the planet - hiding out in plain sight in a fancy palace just down the street from Pakistan's equivalent of West Point, and we're to believe the Paks (our ally in the Global War on Violent Extremism!) were somehow blissfully unaware of this. Better yet, when our special ops folks show up, the place is practically unguarded. Uh-huh. Time to stop believing fairy tales cooked up by the Ministry of Truth.
It should be fairly obvious that OBL was being held there under house arrest by the Paks for years (keep in mind we're shelling out billions each year to them - for more than a decade now). A few years ago one of the joint chiefs under Busheron even spilled the beans about OBL being "on ice" (which does not necessarily mean dead, BTW). He of course bachtracked and stated that he mis-spoke.
When Zero wanted to look macho and give old Chrissie Matthews a nice tingle, the decrepit old goat-humper was quickly offed and his flea-covered carcass tossed in the ocean (which is against sharia law, despite what the lying psychos in Sodom-on-Potomac say about it). Then the Ministry of Truth has the "big event" playing for a couple of days (while some additional criminality is no doubt slithered through the intestines of congress).
There was also the helo crash in the strategic poppyfields of Pashtoonistan shortly afterwards that conveniently wiped out a SEAL team in a single wreck. Makes me wonder if they were the ones who actually carried out the mission to dispose of OBL. (Yes I know the regime says they were not, but the regime has this tiny credibility problem - about the size of the planet Jupiter - you see.) Wouldn't surprise me in the least.
"Again as far as swimming goes, this Black Olympic Silver Medalist Swimmer looks plenty Black to me."
Cullen Jones looks a little more nigrid than Tiger Jones, who is a quadroon. Maybe he's about a 50/50 mulatto like Condoleezza Rice.
But the exception does not prove the rule.
Like for example, the world record in the broad jump of 3.71 meters (12 ft 2.1 inches) is still held by the power jumper Norwegian Arne Tvervaag.
And none of this year's crop of nigra triple jumpers exceeded Jonathan Edwards' greatest leap of 18.29 meters!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjT_JwRi0oA
Whiskey, I will agree that a lean physic and tons of physical endurance are needed to make it through SEAL training but after training many of the guys put the weight back on. There are more than a few jacked SEALs out there.
As to blacks and swimming. I call bullshit there is plenty of water in Africa or other places to practice swimming in. It is like Asia believe it or not many if not most Asians cannot swim. South East Asia is covered in water yet the modern Asian does not swim. Even with the general populace not swimming Asian countries still usually have a fairly strong showing in the Olympics for swimming.
With blacks I think it is 50/50 on nature vs. nurture on the swimming front. They are not built for it and they do not enjoy it. Swimming does not have to be that expensive of a sport especially where natural bodies of water reside.
i guess capt'n duncan who said "if we have people with cultural and racial(blacks) idenitities that allow us to create lasting relationships to better understand our partner force". so if your homeland is under attack and women and children are being raped and murdered the people that are suffering need to be helped by black men and women. yea right, those people would run from the black man and what they don't trust us whites or something. even the spooks in s. afrika don't trust their own color. when and what world do we live in when a women of white or lite skin would rather run into the safety of a bunch of blacks with guns even if they have an american flag on their shoulder patch. now this country is insane for making quotas on the special forces. white men and women do everything better than the rest. we owe blacks nothing. NOTHING!!!! godspeed whites!
Another overlooked reason for why blacks do not join seals is that they whole premise of being a seal. One joins to push himself to his limits, to further one's self.
Black by nature are content with whatever little they have.
Whites strive to reach the moon and the outer reaches of our solar system. Blacks are content with low hanging fruit.
Navy seals strive to achieve their physical and technical bests.
Blacks in the navy only hope the chow hall is open.
-Tim from Michigan
The only area these theses TURDS don't want to be counted is in the casualty lists. Safest job in Iraq was to be a Black Marine, paltry 4%.
I will tell you what I think- 1% of the TOTAL POPULATION of the USA that is non-white, is too much!
After the Charade of the GOP, shutting out ALL honest critique of what amounted to a pre-coronation ceremony, even of an 'Uber-White' like Mittens Romney, we STILL have 0% of non-Whites voting for a Presidential candidate- why?
BECAUSE THE NON-WHITES ARE VOTING RACIALLY.
Not issues, not even jobs, or homeland security.
THEY ARE VOTING TRIBALLY.
Until Whites get that through their thick heads, we don't stand a $%^&'ing chance at even HAVING a Country, in 20 years.
- Fr. John+
unreconstructed Yankee
I generally agree with most of the posts on this site...but...the real reason Obama did not invite the Seals to the White House is not because they are white, it is because he did not want to risk giving away their identities...please don't tarnish your messages with lies...they depend on the truth.
Bye bye elite unit. When the standards are lowered to the lowest common denominator it will no longer be an elite unit. When will libturds learn that the military is not the petri dish for social justice and engineering.
They are just being exploited by a government that is not our, nor their, friend. They take risks and bear the brunt of whatever war the so-called leaders dream up next. You can have an all black-gay-female armed forces for all I care. Let them do the dying and give the white guys a break.
I understand people want to be patriotic but there's nothing to be patriotic about. The country has left us, we didn't leave it.
I went to Ga Tech and had the drownproofing course. I am a skinny ectomorphic white guy, so I too am a natural "sinker".
Fred Lanoue, the Ga Tech swimming coach who invented drown-proofing, had some guys from Morehouse try out his techniques, and that helped them, though Negroes tend to be "sinkers."
Political correctness may have caused some Negroes to drown un-necessarily because they weren't drownproofed.
Protip: Float like a dead man and just stick your head up from time to time to catch a breath, and you can survive until the sharks eat you, or you are rescued, whichever happens first.
"took out Osama"....and then didn't take any pictures or video and dumped his body into a river....yeeeeeah, colour me skeptical.
Even the average five year-old has a camera with them at all times, but you're telling me that Seal Team 6 didn't have one on them at the time of taking out the most wanted man in America?? COME ON!
Osama died of natural causes, probably around 2002. He was a CIA agent in the 80's and he remained one until the day he died.
"but...the real reason Obama did not invite the Seals to the White House is not because they are white, it is because he did not want to risk giving away their identities"
Yeah. He loves the SEALS.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/08/obama-sent-personal-letter-of-condolence-to-rappers-family-sent-form-letter-to-families-of-fallen-seals/
"...If the SEALs regarded their oath to defend the constitution against enemies foreign and domestic with any more respect than they regard used toilet paper, they would turn their considerable lethal skills against the lawless banana republick regime headquartered in Sodom-on-Potomac and overthrow it with extreme prejudice..."
Bogolyubski
Much as I'd love to, I can't argue with this. SEALS will fire on us if given the order. Count on it.
-Sweep the leg-
"...the real reason Obama did not invite the Seals to the White House is not because they are white, it is because he did not want to risk giving away their identities..."
BS squared. The same guy who orchestrated the death of those SEALS on that helicopter ride, cares about their true identities??
I'd say wake up, but...
-Sweep the leg-
This is no different than what has been happening in local and state governments all over the country. Police and fire departments have been on federally mandated racial quotas for years. I have seen this a thousand times. Three job openings and three highly qualified white candidates get passed over for three blacks who couldn't qualify to pick up trash on the side of the road get the job. It makes me violently sick to my stomach.
Maybe minorities don't WANT to be Seals. In the Army they didn't want to be Green Berets, and they didn't WANT to be a part of the rest of USASOC which is where I did my time. To be a part of something special the individual has to WANT it, they have to pursue it (and people will if they want it badly enough) and have to meet the (hopefully un-sissified) requirements and live up to the standards.
If they WANT to be supply guys or they WANT to be truck drivers then that's all they'll ever be. There's a reason most blacks don't WANT to be Infantry or Tankers...because they don't WANT the hard jobs, and in the only branch where one gets to choose their MOS (Army) it's a damning indictment of minority preference when it comes to military service. Heck, half the black kids who went to Airborne school when I went dropped out because they didn't feel like jumping.
Now, I'm not going to say that there were not any black guys there for the right reasons. There were (even I can admit that), but only a handful in my experience. The vast majority were just there for the paycheck and benefits.
What bothers me most is that Whites are still bearing the burden of today's wars, and will likely continue to bear the burden of all future wars. If you figure all the White guys who didn't have to die fighting WWI, WWII, Korea, and Vietnam today and assume that they all had an average of 4 kids and 10 grandkids (which was normal back in those times) we could easily have an additional 10 million Whites here in the US alone, not to mention all the countries in Europe who're losing their native populations today.
In case some of you don't realize this yet, the USA is no longer a republic. It is an Empire. The change was finalized over the Cold War period. It is now complete. Did you expect Caesar marching on Rome and declaring himself Emperor? Methods have changed.
Multiculturalism is the State Religion of this new Empire. The unsanctioned Christianity of the Republic, like the Constitution itself, has been done away with.
Why multiculturalism? Because the Empire seeks global domination, it must preach the values of inclusion to all its would-be subjects. To all whom it would rule, it must say to them, "Ye belong." To those of us who can see, it sinisterly says "You will be assimilated."
Multiculturalism as State Religion means one thing: Equal Opportunity Enslavement. The Constitution and its attendant Rights, notably the Right to Free Association, will not be restored without Force of Arms.
Thank you for reading. You have been warned.
W74 said:
"...What bothers me most is that Whites are still bearing the burden of today's wars, and will likely continue to bear the burden of all future wars. If you figure all the White guys who didn't have to die fighting WWI, WWII, Korea, and Vietnam today and assume that they all had an average of 4 kids and 10 grandkids (which was normal back in those times) we could easily have an additional 10 million Whites here in the US alone, not to mention all the countries in Europe who're losing their native populations today.
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Reminds me of a quote I read the other day: "War is when the government tells you who the enemy is. Revolution is when you decide for yourself."
Same old, same old.
Diversity is the ultimate symbolism over substance.
There is nothing sacred that the Diversity Gang will not water down or tarnish.
Where's the racial quota for the NBA?
I would like to see zero minorities in the special forces. There are precious few places left where we can be free of them and their "what up" influence. Some white men are tired of kissing their crusty butts. Know what I'm sayin'?
"Mein Obama"?
I get your point but when will you people quit relating your masters to those who fought against them?
W74 said...
What bothers me most is that Whites are still bearing the burden of today's wars, and will likely continue to bear the burden of all future wars…
Reflect for a moment on one man named Bob Strait, formerly of Tulsa, who served with the 101st Airborne in World War II. Killed at age 90, while his 85-year-old wife was raped and killed, by a 20-year-old negro. The negro then stole their television and a ten year old automobile.
Mr. Strait fought for his country, endured the fear of leaping out of an airplane at night into areas not controlled by the allies. Death was a day-to-day reality. He survives only to be beaten to death by a negro at age 90.
Other than the personal camaraderie of combat service, I can’t think of a reason to fight for this country any longer.
I don't quite understand the explanations as to why there are so few black swimmers. Is it only the percentage of body fat?
In the Ninja Warrior competition s there are always a couple Japanese men who have under 3% body fat. Would they sink too?
If it's only fat, surely that can't be that hard to remedy. Just pig out at the training table. We know for example that black women are the most obese population segment. Shouldn't we then expect that blacks would dominate female swimming?
Is Michael Phelps fat? Why am I not a swimming star?
Albertosaurus
Anonymous said...
I generally agree with most of the posts on this site...but...the real reason Obama did not invite the Seals to the White House is not because they are white, it is because he did not want to risk giving away their identities...please don't tarnish your messages with lies...they depend on the truth.
September 3, 2012 7:03 AM
Sorry, not buying it. Identities can't be concealed? So-called 'gotcha' journalism has been doing that for decades - even for live TV.
Who hasn't seen the silhouette with the 'electronically distorted' voice 'spilling the beans' on something or other?
It would have been no problem to bring the team into the White House surreptitiously then set up the photo-op with them wearing ski masks, SWAT teams and thugs doing holdups do that all the time.
0bama didn't meet with them because he didn't want to, simple as that.
>> spent 12 years in the military, 4in the infantry, 8 on subs. Very, very different cultures, with one thing in common: overwhelmingly white, with some hispanics and Asians mixed in. Almost no blacks. Any MOS or rating that requires courage, smarts, technical ability or a clean criminal record will be black free.
But how can that be? Aren't blacks over 20% of the armed forces? Yes, and certain rates and MOS's (cook, clerk, storekeeper) are predominantly black. Mostly clockwatchers waiting to hit their 20.
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This is 100% true.
I'm a former Army 19 kilo (tanker), served in the late '80s and early '90s, and a combat veteran of the First Gulf War. In my entire platoon during Desert Storm we had only one black and if I recall two or three hispanics/mestizos. The rest were all White. My unit was hardly out of the ordinary. The combat arms units are all very White. The fact of the matter is that in the miltary the minorities tend to congregate in the low impact support MOSs.*
It goes without saying that Afirmative Action and diversity for diversity's sake is a bad thing in all cases. Trying to apply that to something like the military, were live and our nation's security is on the line is a disaster looking for a place to happen.
-Fireforce-
*-This is at least the case in the Army. I understand the Marines have a higher percentage of hispanics in the combat arms than does the Army. I suspect the "tough guy" image the Marines like to cultivate apeals to hispanic "machismo" culture.
15% of the SEALs are minorities? Well...I know that that 15% isn't entirely black, probably not even most of it, but for the sake of the argument, suppose the 15% was entirely black-in that case, wouldn't they be over-represented, as they are app 12% of the population? I always see rhis argument that they are "under-represented" in some field-but in every case, they are well more than 12% of the given field-when are they "fairly" represented if more than 12% representation isn't enough, since that's roughly their percentage of the population? Apparently unless they're more than 50% of the given field, they're "under-represented", but whites are never considered "under-represented" when we're less than 50% of a given field, even though we're app 70% of the entire population.
Also, the argument that they can't swim because of a lack of money or some "white privilege" is bogus. Neither my 9 siblings nor our many friends had swimming pools when growing up. Our parents didn't have the time or money to take us to expensive swimming classes. But we could all swim-we just jumped into (or got thrown in) the deep part of the local swimming hole or lake and swam for it. No money required, just the will to live!
Also, WRT the SEALs-what they do isn't just your average get from A to B swimming-they must comport themselves under dangerous circumstances in dangerous bodies of water-cold, rough surf, rocks, etc When blacks can't even swim in the deep end of the pool, there's no way they'll be able to deal with those kinds of circumstances.
That being said, I agree with the poster who said it just makes a good excuse anyway. Even if they could swim, most couldn't pass the IQ tests, tests for temperament (such as self-discipline and self-reliance), etc. Blacks seem to be genetically disposed to pass the buck when they screw up, from the highest to the lowest. At the least it seems to be culturally ingrained in them. Something like the SEALs leaves them no place to hide in failure.
They already screwed up the standards for LE and firefighters by their whining excuses.
It's not just the combat arms where blacks are rarely seen.. I was in the airforce for four years & twelve years as a DoD civilian maintaining & operating flight simulators. In all that time we had NO blacks in our shop!, not one.. If you went to supply or the chow hall though you could see that they were wildly over represented!.. Hmmmmm
Ex-Lincolnite: Face it, Mitt Romney will have us in a war with Iran at the earliest possible moment.
I'm still amazed that people think a conflict with Iran will be anything more than a "smash and grab" type of operation.
Here is a link to my recent comments about Iran.
In that thread, Bogolyubski responded thusly:
Bogolyubski: What on earth are you trying to sell here?
A whiff of sanity.
Who could they hit with a pathetic bomb if they are even capable of building it in the first place? Kuwait?
Like many in the Pentagon, you are still "fighting the last war". In this case the Cold War. Nuclear weapons need not be delivered by ICBMs to have devastating effects. Do you know about the Club K system? What defense is there against a flat trajectory nuclear-tipped cruise missile launched from a shipping container by an offshore vessel?
Merely detonating a medium yield device concealed in some shipboard container as it passes by a LNG (Liquified Natural Gas) supertanker in the New York harbor area could see that city transformed into pure hell.
While they like to make lots of noise about blowing up Israel the little Satan to usher in the 12th imam, Israel has more deliverable warheads than any country in NATO save the USA.
It is difficult to believe that someone with your intelligence is unaware of the Samson Option. Israel has vowed that it will not go quietly into the night like WWII Jews did. Should they take a single WMD hit, they have tacitly informed the MME (Muslim Middle East), that they all will be taken down with them. A few years back, Saudi Arabia's king essentially told Amahdinejad to sit down and STFU with his ravings about wiping Israel off of the map. Clearly, he knows about the Samson Option.
[to be continued]
What do you think would be left of Mad Johnny and the Mullahs if they even tried to throw a milk-dud at Tel-Aviv? A vast field of radioactive glass with funny turbaned shadows on it - if they were lucky.
It won't be just Iran. Got it? The entire MME will disappear in nuclear plasma. I wouldn't blame Israel if they lobbed nukes into Moscow and Paris for the perfidy of those players. Just the fallout from several dozen thermonuclear detonations would be horrific. Now, try to calculate what happens to the world economy when a major portion of its oil supply is taken off-line OVERNIGHT. If you think these current squabbles over oil are lunatic, you ain't seen nothing yet.
You also need to remember that the Mad Dwarf™ was a disciple of Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini. Try this excerpt from his 1980 speech at Qom:
We do not worship Iran, we worship Allah. For patriotism is another name for paganism. I say let this land (Iran) burn. I say let this land go up in smoke, provided Islam emerges triumphant in the rest of the world.
What sort of chances are you willing to take with lunatics who would turn their entire nation into one vast suicide bomber?
Of even more far-reaching consequences is a nuclear armed Iran who then uses its possession of WMDs as a shield for continued global terrorism. Iran's accession to nuclear weapons could trigger a nuclear arms race in the MME, already one of the most unstable regions in the entire world.
There is also the simple fact that:
Beyond a certain unspecified number of nuclear weapons held in Muslim hands, there emerges a NON-ZERO probability that one or more of them will be diverted into the possession of terrorists.
I, for one, am unwilling to see a few American cities dissolve in nuclear plasma just because there was some degree of doubt about Iran's intentions. Hell, even just a single high altitude EMP (Electro-Magnetic Pulse) detonation could set back America by several decades. Why should we take any of these risks?
I find it curious that the "patriots" (NeoTrotskyites, actually) over at Belmont wring their hands over Mad Johnny's freakshow but are strangely silent about the folks in North Korea, who have actual nukes capable of hitting the west coast of the USA.
Try not to alienate everybody on the planet with your outrageous labels, emkay? Maybe that's because they're doing their homework and you aren't. There is every indication that North Korea's much vaunted 2006 nuclear test was a dud.
From: Office of the Director of National Intelligence, "Statement by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence on the North Korea Nuclear Test," 11 October 2009, www.dni.gov; Siegfried S. Hecker, "Denuclearizing North Korea," Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, May/June 2008, http://iisdb.stanford.edu; Siegfried S. Hecker, "Report on North Korean Nuclear Program," Center for International Security and Cooperation, Stanford University, 15 November 2006.
The North Korean nuclear test did not, however, produce a significant yield. The yield from this test appeared to be less than 1 kiloton. North Korea was reportedly expecting at least a 4 kiloton yield, possibly indicating that the North Korean plutonium program still had a number of technical hurdles to overcome before it would have a usable warhead.
Thank goodness that constructing a nuclear warhead is such a difficult task. Just producing sufficiently pure fissile material is a chore all by itself. Obtaining simultaneous firing of the explosive lenses is complicated beyond belief, not to mention balancing the product of those individual lenses. Please try to recall that Iran has much closer ideological ties to Pakistan and Abdul Qadeer Khan's all night nuclear technology mini-mart.
[to be continued]
Has it ever occurred to you that the folks who built and operate BRA are the very same ones who want endless wars to make the Ummah safe for feminism, sodomy, Mickey-Dees and the Amurikan way?
Enough of the hyperbole already. You know damn well we are both on the same page about America's one party system.
Leave Mad Johnny and his pals to hump their goats. Stop bringing them in to settle here. Our goats have enough to worry about as it is with the Mexicans. We cannot afford any more damned wars, not after the last couple of cake-walks.
Not only can we not afford any more wars, there is simply no way to finance all the other necessary conventional overthrows of Islamic nations. The combined non-Islamic global economy does not have the financial wherewithal to pacify some four dozen more Muslim nations. This is why I continue to predict a Muslim holocaust. Unconventional weapons represent one of the only ways to reach out and touch over a BILLION people. My hope that this can be somehow avoided is what spurs me to write so extensively about this problem.
As it is, Whiskey is one of the few to pose a genuinely pertinent question:
Whiskey: Oh we will get war with Iran, sooner or later. It is about oil, and money, and who controls the Gulf and sets the world price of oil, to benefit Putin and the Mullah's plans for spending, or the American economy.
What, you thought that you could HAVE all those nice things, like gas you can afford to buy, and a car not a mini-Trabant atrocity, and not have to PAY FOR THEM? Really?
Go back and read my original comments about Iran. The greatest domestic danger that confronts is is a delusional 0bama or Mittens thinking that we can perform yet another futile nation-building exercise in Iran. That would be the ultimate insanity.
All we need to do is cripple Iran's nuclear R&D program. If we're really smart, we'd also destroy their gasoline refineries and decapitate their political structure. The Mad Mullahs™ and Iran's Revolutionary Guard control a major portion of that nation's economy. They are corrupt beyond all measure and Iran's original Persian culture hates them with an incendiary passion. Far more than they could ever hate the Jews.
Again, who do you think is more likely to take much-needed action against Iran? Mittens or our current closet Muslim who bows and scrapes as he toadies to every last Islamic tyrant? Do you really want to let Israel wade into the fray at a risk of seeing the entire MME immolated? Do you honestly think that this is just another can to be kicked down the road? Kick this particular can enough times and their won't be any road left to kick it down.
Remember, Iran hates America with an almost identical fury with which it hates Israel. The Jews have read the MME the riot act. America has continually shown itself to be lacking in political will. Who do you think Iran would be more likely to subject to nuclear terrorism. The 9-11 atrocity easily cost our nation, not just some 3,000 lives, but over ONE TRILLION DOLLARS in economic damage. What price tag will be attached to even a modest nuclear assault?
For anyone who is genuinely concerned about this issue, please watch the movie, "Iranium". At just short of one hour, it will give you the information that the MSM will never let you know.
Wednesday: Multiculturalism as State Religion means one thing: Equal Opportunity Enslavement.
[golf clap]
Unless you object, that is going into my Catalog of Race Realism Memes.
black's swimming "deficit" is partly due to their denser bone structure. (same thing that gives them thicker skulls - true dat!)
Melanie: Our parents didn't have the time or money to take us to expensive swimming classes. But we could all swim-we just jumped into (or got thrown in) the deep part of the local swimming hole or lake and swam for it. No money required, just the will to live!
Thank you, my dear, for a much-needed larf.
Melanie - according to official stats (which probably are cooked, but possibly in either direction), non-hispanic Whites are curently 63% of the population. This includes all the Arabs and Indians and Jews who are counted as White. Personally, I'd bet we're not much more than 55%, and dropping rapidly.
As for proportional representation, that's about as useful an argument, unfortunately, as the standard cry of "double standard" and "reverse racism" - i.e, in today's world, logic and truth have no place. Under proportional representation, there wouldn't be all black city bureaucracies and sports teams, and Harvard wouldn't be 50% Jewish and Asian. Same goes with with the argument that a school nurse cannot give a child an aspirin without written parental permission, yet we're assured that 13 year-old girls are perfectly capable of making a rational decision about birth control and/or abortion without their parents' input.
In sum, don't try to make sense of it or combat the left with logic, because that plays no part in their position or methods or ultimate aims.
"Do you really want to let Israel wade into the fray at a risk of seeing the entire MME immolated?"
Yes. Better them than us.
"The 9-11 atrocity easily cost our nation, not just some 3,000 lives, but over ONE TRILLION DOLLARS in economic damage."
Mostly self-inflicted.
The film "Iranium" was produced by an outfit known as The Clarion Fund which is is staffed by many of the neocons that wanted us in Iraq.
Didn't Obama also refuse permission for the mission three times on the advice of Michelle's very best friend Jarret but even old Obama had enough of a functioning brain to see that the mission was needed?
On a related note, Hollywood is making a movie about the killing of Bin Laden due out just before the election. Anyone want to bet that in that flick the Seal who shoots Bin Laden will be played by a black actor?
Zoe Saldana? Nichelle Nichols?
Said Zenster on September 3, 2012 at 2:14 PM
"I, for one, am unwilling to see a few American cities dissolve in nuclear plasma just because there was some degree of doubt about Iran's intentions."
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Ghaddafi in Libya, Saddam in Iraq with WMD that can be deployed in as little as 45 minutes, bin Ladin in Afghanistan, Noriega in Panama, Bernard Coard in Grenada, Daniel Ortega in Nicaragua, Ho Chi Minh in Vietnam, Fidel Castro in Cuba only 90 miles away, any number of Soviet apparatchiki, Adolf Hitler ... there's always some boogey man just over the horizon, just out of sight, that's just about to kill us all in our beds as we sleep. And then I think of those poor Israelis and their nuclear weapons that they don't have. It just makes it so haaaaaaaaaaard for me to sleep at night.
--Mencken--
They represent the very tip of our military spear.
We do not have a military. They do.
The number of Caucasian active duty troops who will refuse to go Full Spectrum is an unknown value. I personally think that a substantial portion will refuse, but it won't be close to 50%. Expect all the lifers and those too young to know any better to remain with the federals.
Caucasians must stop joining the federal military. Those already in must not reenlist. All those who have died in Iraq and Afghanistan have died for nothing.
the real reason Obama did not invite the Seals to the White House is not because they are white, it is because he did not want to risk giving away their identities
Maybe you missed this part: "and that he never followed through on a promise to invite them to the White House for a beer."
In case some of you don't realize this yet, the USA is no longer a republic. It is an Empire.
Thread Winner
The only significant goal with respect to Iran is paralyzing its nuclear weapons R&D program.
I was in theater when WMD's were still the casus belli for Iraq. Once the 3rd ID pushed into Baghdad and we were left without a mission, we exchanged "What now?" looks for about two weeks before the mission morphed into "provide them with freedom." The neocons aren't anywhere close to renouncing nation-building; in fact, they're still convinced that Iraq and Afghanistan are success stories.
I wouldn't put it past Romney to attempt to go into Iran and Syria and Egypt, especially if he thinks Jesus is telling him to.
Iran is not nor has ever been a threat to us. Period. This war drumming against Iran is nothing but a distraction.
If there is any Islamic nuclear power we need to worry about, it's France.
Whiskey: We need to be energy independent, whatever the cost. The entire ME is a hornets nest. Let's stay out of it.
I think some people here are missing the point of the article. The black helicopter crowd, the anarchists, the plain stupid... It's not about the election. It's simply another example of how white culture is being sacrificed at the alter of multiculturalalism. What should be taken away from this article is simply this: those in power will continue to force integration and multiculism down our throat until white people, along with our values, ethics, and heritage are a distant memory, regardless of who is in the whitehouse.
Silent Running: The neocons aren't anywhere close to renouncing nation-building; in fact, they're still convinced that Iraq and Afghanistan are success stories.
I agree completely and it is an indication of just how bankrupt the neocons are that they regard successfully installing shari'a governments in Afghanistan and Iraq as anything but a catastrophic failure, much less treason against America's national security interests.
The sole lesson we should have taken away from Iraq, if not Afghanistan, is that when dealing with Islamic nations, the era of nation-building is well and truly dead.
As I noted earlier, Islam must be dealt with solely on the level of "break the bad boys' toys" and snuffing their upper echelons. That's it.
I also must agree with you that the Middle East has too many strands which trace back into Christianity and, thereby, becomes problematic when held against the backdrop of Christians in Western leadership roles.
This is why I'd be just as happy to watch Israel go in and do all the heavy lifting this time. They have no illusions about land invasions and nation-building. All of which would work out really well if idiots like 0bama and Mittens could just stay the f%&k out of the way instead of acting like America is the sole arbiter in these situations.
Ex New Yorker here....The BEAST of the planet Earth is called religion. All these nut bag religious freaks killing each other over pieces of fucking dirt. All in the name of their favorite GOD. The money spent on war could feed all the hungry of the world and buy them a new Cadillac every year. This place is fucked. The earth is an insane asylum for the local universe.
"Allah is the only true God"
"I am saved by Jesus"
"We are God's chosen People"
The "Holy Books" are filled with blood and death and destruction. An endless barrage of death and carnage. Kill the infidels. Kill the sinners. Kill the goyim. Kill the heathen. Kill the non-believers.
Hundreds of years of people burned at the stake and tortured to death all in the name of THE ONE AND ONLY TRUE GOD. When they are not killing each other they take off a few years only so they can re-load. They call that PEACE.
RE:Blacks and swimming : Fast twitch muscles vs activity that absolutely demands endurance as well as strength.
As for the Iranians: they aren't going to blindside us with a bunch of new technology. ship launched cruise missiles aren't the easiest thing to build and our intel community is watching them. The best way to defend against asymetric threats like that is to restrict immigration, and require all traffic into our ports to be American Flagged/build/staffed vessels.
The number of Caucasian active duty troops who will refuse to go Full Spectrum is an unknown value. I personally think that a substantial portion will refuse, but it won't be close to 50%. Expect all the lifers and those too young to know any better to remain with the federals.
Obama got a cold reception when he spoke to US soldiers recently. The military does not have a lot of love for its government anymore. Forcing women and gays into the military has created much resentment and gutted military culture. The black AA's rub White soldiers the wrong way as well. The military is becoming too "multicultural" to function in a domestic crisis, especially a racial crisis. Most likely the US military will shatter and soldiers will join their corresponding ethnic militias.
Zenster, I've seen the Club-K video before. Russian marketing at its very best. If they actually exist, will you please, please, please send me a few for Xmas? I can think of at least three cities to send up in a big way. I am also familiar with Israel's so-called "Samson Option", which is patterned after the "Dead Hand" option of the Russians (unlike the Russians', it would probably actually work). Bethca all those hairy Ayatollahs in the holy city Qom are well aware of it too, maybe even their favorite goats.
You apparently think that Mad Johnny and his friends are really, really crazy. In other words, they are true believers who would (as you put it) make all of Iran into one big suicide bomb in order to set off what amounts to WW III, which they probably dream would send both great and little Satan to their doom. (Their first error, though it might actually stop the money flowing to keep BRA going - you remember.. the main topic here - for a while). Mad Johnny really isn't running the show over there to begin with, but perhaps you're even more terrified of those funny old goat-husbands of Qom.
Mad Johnny strikes me as more of a slimy opportunist than anything else. Yes, he loves to make all sorts of wild announcements to keep the local twelvers hopping, but it seems he's also rather fond of living the gangtsa life in a place that's never been terribly wealthy and is getting poorer every day. The rhetoric about the great and little Satan helps keep the twelvers distracted from his sordid little gangsta government. I'll grant you that he would fit right in with the administration of his magical negretude.
While I've no doubt there are some twelvers over there who are really that far off into la-la land, I do question if there enough of them in the ayatollah oligarchy there to drag the whole place into certain destruction, especially as their neighboring Moose-limbs (including fellow Shiites) really like collecting all that nice oil money from us kaffirs, who just love to shell it out to them.
As I said before, YT simply cannot afford any more adventures over in the Ummah - and yes, Mittens and D'Won are largely on the same page here (as they are practically everywhere else). There would be no "smash and grab" even contemplated. Instead, the squid overlords would have a shiny new excuse to wave the flag to a) make YT go and enlighten the Persians and Azeris with the wonders and blessings of feminism, sodomy and Wal-Mart; b) import ever more vibrancy and diversity here into the Banksta Banana Republick so that they (the folks who brought us BRA to begin with) can enjoy their million-jahre reich as they watch YT (the idée fixe of their own insane hatred) disappear in a blood-soaked zebra intifada of rape and murder - just as in South Africa. You'll have to do better than that.
Heard this morning: NYC has decided to 'level the playing field' in the city's school 'Gifted' program by 'changing the entrance exams'.
The new and improved version will start testing the 'novel and abstract thinking of all cultures' rather than an emphasis on 'words' and word recognition only.
What the hell this means, what kind of learning environment this will result in, seems clear.
The term 'excellence' continues to become meaningless.
They aren't levelling the playing field, they are destroying it.
I once saw a president. He came to visit and have his picture taken with the troops, our brave boys and their bold leader, y'know? Our captain was dismissive of the whole business. He even gave those who did not want to play the role of adoring men hailing their leader the afternoon off.
When the Man showed up, our captain was nearly frantic with pride, looking like a 'tween gone to see the Jonas Brothers. His dismissive attitude was a pose to encourage the dissenters to stay away from the photo op.
The point is, if the idea is to show the Prez as a man among his men, you need real fans. Men in ranks regularly stand in place for superiors they despise, but will take opportunities to sabotage the show if they can. Imagine just one SEAL discreetly making ooks and eeks behind BHO's back but within his hearing. The SEAL's dislike of Obama is a more likely cause for the cancelled photo op than his dislike of them.
BTW: If, as one commenter suggested above, the SEAL team that killed Bin Ladin was in turn assassinated by a planned helicopter crash, wouldn't it be awfully risky to have their brethren over for a beer? In fact, wouldn't it be risky to leave any of them alive? If anyone has the skill to kill a politician, it would be Special ops forces. Treasury agents wouldn't have a chance against them.
BS squared.
'The same guy who orchestrated the death of those SEALS on that helicopter ride, cares about their true identities?'
pray tell more
Bogolyubski, I find it difficult to imagine that you have not twigged to how, when dealing with Blacks and Muslims (or Black Muslims for that matter):
TAKE THEM AT THEIR WORD.
When Dr. Khallid Abdul starts ranting about Whites and says to "kill 'em all"; arrest him incitement.
When Louis Farrakhan preaches anti-Semitism and racism against Whites; charge him with "hate speech".
When Kaleed Meshaal leads a crown in chanting "death to America"; make sure he gets a .50 caliber third eye right in front of thousands of adoring admirers.
When the Mad Dwarf leads a crowd in chanting "death to America"; make sure he gets a .50 caliber third eye, too.
When the New Black Panther Party puts out a hit contract on George Zimmerman; have its chairman arrested on charges of murder for hire.
Yes, I know that BRA actively interferes with this but eventually leadership will change and it is up to us to make sure that this policy becomes reality.
I don't give a damn if these wankers are merely spewing this crap for public consumption. Make them answerable for their actions. All of it still inspires those usual "lone wolves" and "solitary actors" to go ahead and kill more of us.
When the price of incitement begins to steepen, then maybe, just maybe, these turds will have second thoughts about puffing up with such anti-Western bullshit.
Allowing these maggots to spew their bilious horseshit with impunity does not work out well for us.
Discard: BTW: If, as one commenter suggested above, the SEAL team that killed Bin Ladin was in turn assassinated by a planned helicopter crash, wouldn't it be awfully risky to have their brethren over for a beer?
This reminds me very little of those massive North Korean military parades that would march in review for Kim Jong Il.
ALL THOSE THOUSANDS OF RIFLES AND GUNS HAD NOT ONE ROUND OF AMMUNITION IN THEM.
What does it tell you when a leader fears his own soldiers? Might 0bama feel the same? Should he?
Well you all called it.
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obama demands open borders:
As for the Iranians: they aren't going to blindside us with a bunch of new technology. ship launched cruise missiles aren't the easiest thing to build and our intel community is watching them. The best way to defend against asymetric threats like that is to restrict immigration, and require all traffic into our ports to be American Flagged/build/staffed vessels.
Zenster, you're quite correct about Muslims and their constant lying, dissembling, etc. The thing is, it applies to all of them, without exception. I'm sure that's another item you've got on your long list of Muslim/Black similarities. Our Sunni "friends" in places like Egypt, Pakistan, the House of Saud's Magic Kingdom, Quatar, Kuwait, etc. are no more reliable than Mad Johnny - who of course is quite upfront about how much he hates the great Satan even if he's probably more interested in living the slimy gangsta life in Tehran than in going up in the glorious glow of a mushroom cloud. Now the usual suspects (including Conservatism, Inc.) are all busy howling about how Assad of Syria - who is not even really a Muslim - is the next Hitler, as they support the Muslim Brotherhood and Al-Quaeda (remember them?) in the latest episode of "Springtime for Allah" in Syria.
So, yes, I do not take Mad Johnny at his word any more seriously than I take Al Sharpton - or the Magic Knee-grow himself - at their word. One can never have enough weapons of mass destruction aimed directly at them. Muslim promises mean nothing at all. Personally, I'd make sure that at least five nukes were targeted so that ground zero was the Great Mosque in Mecca. The one thing about them is that they're really poor liars. Sooner or later, a Moose-limb's inner Muhammed just has to come out and do his thing.
I also have no problem with Israel blowing Iran or any other Moose-limb hellhole back into the stone age from their present level of civilization, frozen as it is in the 7th century. Let them kick Moose-limb arse with their own soldiers and weapons, and on their own dime. I don't even have a problem with the USA regime (totally illegitimate as it is) attacking goat-husbands in retaliation for their antics as Reagan did with Quaddafi after his operatives blew up a PanAm jet. (Note how the Neo-Trot regimes in Britain and the USSA let the bomber off the hook with nary a peep?)
Back to the topic at hand, that's not what's going on with western puppet regimes like ours - even "conservative" ones, nor is it what the Neo-Trotskyites who inhabit places like Belmont and NRO advocate - once you start stripping away their flag-waving, jingoistic BS. Go and try posting something which advances the idea of closing the borders to all Muslim migration and see what happens. You will be ignored or get Derbyshired if you're a regular poster.
Even Robert Spencer, who can be quite informative about all the Moose-limb machinations, never bothers to mention the fact that western countries are being colonized by hundreds of thousands from the Ummah every year as they simultaneously go on laughable adventures in the strategic poppyfields to bring feminism and Mickey-Dees to goat-humpers. Not a single one of the wars is about defending this country. Lest anyone here think that the military themselves have any concept of the reality of Moose-limb behavior, take a look at Auster's latest entry in his ever-growing catalogue of Non-Islam theories of Islamic jihad: the poor dears are killing the kaffirs there to train them because of “stress, hunger and dehydration associated with Ramadan fasting” and the “harsh summer weather”. This, from a US Marine General, John Allen.
This also means the VA hospitals will be 85% white.
Majority of the amputees will be white.
I'm okay with both.
-Black Guy
Black guy:
Typical negro attitude. Let whites do all the work to protect you. After all, you have done so much to deserve this entitlement. Besides, you're needed at home for breeding purposes.
Notice how all these "madmen" that lead radical Islamic nations never seemed to have volunteered for the "human wave" attacks or suicide bombings. Yet we are to believe that they are unafraid of retaliation if they launch a nuclear attack on the US.
If we are to accept the "madman" argument as a pretext for war we might as well attack Pakistan, India and Israel - three theocracies that get significant foreign aid or trade with the US. One of which was harboring bin Laden.
Very insightful brother. Thank you for sharing.
As we are ok with you dying of aids, sicke cell anemia, or another black only malady. Or simply due to TNB. Do not worry, it is certain you will be first to fertilize the earth. Health is a white thing.
Baltimore Watcher
The SEALS can only be White as only Whites can work in unison to a common goal. negroes cannot. ALL anti-negro posts porve me correct.
I thought I was the only one who noticed the things you pointed out.
Left coast white guy
Thanks Wednesday,
A message that needs to be repeated until those who can see, see better
Left coast white guy
That is so true! I remember some senior military official under Bush downplaying the need to capture bin Laden and saying he "was no longer a threat." As if he knew where he was and what his status was.
I thought it was suspicious that we supposedly "found" bin Laden right after Pakistan kicked out the CIA and stopped cooperating with us. I'm sure we knew about him for years, and used not killing him as a bargaining chip to force the Pakis to cooperate with us. There's just no way we don't have Pakistan's premier military academy under some form of surveillance, and we're not going to notice a large, mysterious walled compound that suddenly springs up a mile down the road?
Listen guys,
I'm prior Army (82nd Airbourne Paratrooper), and a Combat Veteran of eight years. My MOS was Signal Intelligence initially, but I was ultimatley a door gunner and radioman for Air Recon. Upon leaving the military I have been supporting the United States Special Operations Command (USSOCOM) and Combined Joint Special Operations Taskforce Afghanistan (CJSOTF-A) ever sense. I train, teach, and mentor men of the spec ops community of all colors. We all have vital rolls that support the warfighter (because even SEAL's need help every once in a while too). I'm as country and backwoods as you can get! Yet, people tent to think they can judge a man because of his color or upbringing (I'm Black if you haven't figured it out by now). Good men are good men; so if you wash out of BUD/S or Selection it's because it is not meant for you. Some or you are just ignorant by nature (and thats fine), but don't throw stereo types out there if your not sure it applies to everyone.
P.S.: I know how to swim!
Exactly , why do the finest white fighters continue fighting for a country run by liberals that despise them? Southern white males make up the bulk of the armed forces but they are consistently attacked by the Administration and the main stream media.
Exactly, the armed forces are predominantly white southern males that are hated by the administration and the main stream media. Why our best fighters keep signing up is beyond me.
For a long time I have believed that primary reason the President allows combat operations in Afghanistan to continue is that the vast majority of KIA/WIA are of white or hispanic ethnicity. Were there a hue and cry from the black community - the war would end almost immediately.
Could be a buoyancy issue but it is ALSO a NOT PANIC issue. Have to have loads of self control.
Who saw 'Generation Kill' USMC Force Recon has stringent testing and swim qualifications, Gen Kill was 99% white. Thats true to reality.
The only way you get diversity is lower the standards and then they are not seals but walruses.
All Spec Ops is voluntary. All Spec Ops requires intense dedication. You have to want it bad. You have to be able to perform under the most demanding scenarios imaginable. You have to make the cut. You will be respected if you do no matter the color of your skin. It is the depth of you character that is judged. There is no room for racial bullshit and quotas. It is the one community in the Military where you truly are judged by the content of your character and capability. Nothing else matters and doesn't. You cannot socially engineer it or you will destroy the very fabric of it that makes it unique.--Gunny Barton, Ret.
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