Sunday, January 1, 2012

#100. Renaissance Fairs

What's that Black guy doing there?
Renaissance fairs. White people dressing up as... white people from the 10th - 15th centuries, in celebration of the culture and traditions that were found in England during this time period.

For Black people, a renaissance fair is just another reminder that even white people 500 - 700 years ago were far more advanced and lived in safer communities than Black people in Africa do now. Well, these villages were safer than predominately Black-cities like Baltimore circa 2011, where the United States Military trains doctors preparing for war zones by immersing them in a battleground area much worse than they'll encounter overseas.

The so-called "Dark Ages" that preceded this boom weren't even that dark, not compared to the darkness that has followed white flight from Detroit, Baltimore, Birmingham and other major American cities (not to mention former European colonies in Africa) and what Black people who inherit these cities/nations have been able to sustain.

Were Black people to try and stage their own renaissance fair, it would resemble a scene out of the film Naked Prey or Zulu. Odds are, no restaurant/entertainment chain like Medieval Times would appear in cities throughout America that mirrored what Black people in Africa were doing 500-800 years ago...

Renaissance fairs are immensely popular in America, because white people know they offer one of the rare opportunities for white people to embrace their heritage. A similar festival by Black people to embrace their historic heritage - were it done accurately - would be most depressing affair.

Worse, medieval England was twice as prosperous as the "developing" nations of today, further proof of the visible Black hand of economics:
New research led by economists at the University of Warwick reveals that medieval England was not only far more prosperous than previously believed, it also actually boasted an average income that would be more than double the average per capita income of the world's poorest nations today.

In a paper entitled British Economic Growth 1270-1870 published by the University of Warwick's Centre on Competitive Advantage in the Global Economy (CAGE) the researchers find that living standards in medieval England were far above the "bare bones subsistence" experience of people in many of today's poor countries.
The figure of $400 annually (as expressed in 1990 international dollars) is commonly is used as a measure of "bare bones subsistence" and was previously believed to be the average income in England in the middle ages.
Would they serve "human" at the Black version of Medieval Times?
However the University of Warwick led researchers found that English per capita incomes in the late Middle Ages were actually of the order of $1,000 (again as expressed in 1990 dollars). Even on the eve of the Black Death, which first struck in 1348/49, the researchers found per capita incomes in England of more than $800 using the same 1990 dollar measure. Their estimates for other European countries also suggest late medieval living standards well above $400.
This new figure of $1,000 is not only significantly higher than previous estimates for that period in England -- it also indicates that on average medieval England was better off than some of the world's poorest nations today including the following (again average annual income as expressed in 1990 dollars).
Zaire $249
Burundi $479
Niger $514
Central African Republic $536
Comoro Islands $549
Togo $606
Guinea Bissau $617
Guinea $628
Sierra Leone $686
Haiti at $686
Chad $706
Zimbabwe $779
Afghanistan $869
University of Warwick economist Professor Stephen Broadberry, who led the research said:
"Our work sheds new light on England's economic past, revealing that per capita incomes in medieval England were substantially higher than the "bare bones subsistence" levels experienced by people living in poor countries in our modern world.
The majority of the British population in medieval times could afford to consume what we call a "respectability basket" of consumer goods that allowed for occasional luxuries. By the late Middle Ages, the English people were in a position to afford a varied diet including meat, dairy produce and ale, as well as the less highly processed grain products that comprised the bulk of the "bare bones subsistence" diet."
He also said: "Of course this paper focuses only on average per capita incomes. We also need to have a better understanding of the distribution of income in medieval England, as there will have been some people living at bare bones subsistence, and at times this proportion could have been quite substantial. We are now beginning research to construct social tables which will also reveal the distribution of income for some key benchmark years in that period"
Hmm... perhaps it's time Eric "My People" Holder's Department of (In) Justice looks into these evil Renaissance Fairs - and considers shutting down Medieval Times - as a form of racism or a draconian example of disparate impact.

Worse, even with advances in medical technology (not to mention free health care and child services), infant mortality rates in the Black community is approaching that of what was documented in even the darkest days of the Black Death. In Milwaukee, the Black infant mortality rate is reaching levels that once induced white people in Europe to create children's songs revolving around "ashes-to-ashes we all fall down"; instead of a plague wiping out Black children in America, it's just the neglect of their Black mothers:
The Journal Sentinel said Milwaukee had an “infant mortality crisis.” Milwaukee’s infant mortality rate in 2009 was 10.4 deaths for every 1,000 live births, according to the city’s health department. As noteworthy as this overall rate is the racial breakdown: For white babies, the rate was 5.4; for blacks, 14.1, the JS said.

The city has set a goal of reducing the infant mortality rate for blacks by 15 percent, and the overall rate by 10 percent by 2017, the JS said.


And so Stuff Black People Don't Like includes Renaissance Fairs, which serve to remind Black people that without the integration of white society now, they'd be less well off than your average medieval Englishmen from centuries ago. It's just another reminder of how poorly developed "developing" nations really are, and at the same time it reveals how errant the term "dark ages" really is. 



123 comments:

Anonymous said...

I have a mental image of blacks at the Renaissance fair dressed in loincloths and gazing in wonderment at wheeled vehicles, domesticated animals, writing, multi-story architecture.....

rjp said...

I think Dutty Friday (Dutty Fridae) is the black version of a Renaissance Fair ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kckPXdXIsmk&list=UUsJW3jzl9zXN1PwMMaKK5SQ&index=9&feature=plcp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNQRUogO7DE&list=UUsJW3jzl9zXN1PwMMaKK5SQ&index=6&feature=plcp

Dan in PA said...

And not just England either. Years back when I was stationed at Zweibruken AFB in Germany, I was astounded at all the structures dating from the medieval/ renaissance period!. So beautifully constructed. So solid & ornate. All built BEFORE the slave trade with Africa (golly, how did our ancestors do it without the black man?!!). Oh, & the so called dark ages?. That was the age when Byzantium built the Hagia Sophia in Constantiople. Of the Carolingian cathedrals in the Rhine land.. Of curse blacks hate them. It reminds them of things that tey will NEVER be able to do?!.. To know that we where more advanced centuries or mellenia ago than thy are now, that they will NEVER have a "golden age" of achievement?!.... No the classical period, the renaissance, the enlightenment, the scientific & industrial revolutions.. They are part of OUR heritage. It will ne'er be a part of theirs!.

Zenster said...

And now for something completely different:

Bugs Bunny visits an African "Renaissance Fair"

Anonymous said...

There are no Black Ren Faires because most Black people don't know history. It's bad enough how many white people don't know their history. One of the arguments for Black History Month was that all that was taught in American history classes about Black people was that they were slaves. Unfortunately now all your average Black inner city kid knows about history is that Blacks were slaves. They don't have a grasp of history or geography, and even country is too big an abstraction for them.

Anonymous said...

Out of curiosity, I went to YouTube and entered "renaissance fair commercial" in the search engine and was pleasantly surprised by the high number of results. So I randomly clicked clicked on one (New Jersey Rennaisance Faire Commercial) and it had a black man prominently placed in an advertisement trying to lure visitors to their fair. Sadly, even those Rennaissance Fair organizers were compelled by a DWL-like obligation to fraudulently portray medieval Anglo history by insinuating that africans had a role.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3rzroPDBD4

Anonymous said...

Did anyone catch ESPN's "Resurging Detroit" earlier today??

What a load! It's almost as if ESPN is actively working to provide cover for black incompetence.

Also, I've seen that stupid fucking "Red Tails" trailer at least half a dozen times today, funny that it looks kinda like a spoof. I predict this movie will be a colossal, spectacular failure, because white folks have grown weary of having silly black myths shoved down our throats.

Anonymous said...

Right. And I am supposed to believe that we came out of Africa into Europe and then changed into intelligent white people. I do not now believe that nor have I ever nor will I ever believe that.

Anonymous said...

Thousands of white people walking around with swords can be discouraging to a ghetto thug. There was more 'trash' at the fair than usual last year, I suspect some one was giving them tickets. $25 to get in keeps most of the riff raff out.

Renaissance fairs are very white events. Here white people are free to be white. It is wonderful to be able to be ourselves without being leered at or ridiculed by hostile savages. You can actually speak to other people st the Renn fair in ways you wouldn't dare speak to strangers on the street. While there are 'beggars' and 'hustlers' of all sorts they are part of the show and pose no grave threat like blacks do.

If some one promoted an authentic 'Ancient Africa' type event for blacks they would have to be running around nekkid with spears. It would be a total blood bath. An orgy of violence and TNB. Blacks would never discuss their real history of enslaving each other and cannibalism.

I had a thread on an infamous web site about Renn fairs. On that thread I wrote about the various racial aspects I have observed.

One more point... When you visit the Renn fair (and I really hope you do), take time to notice how little trash is present on the fair grounds despite hundreds or thousands of people eating and drinking. There may be a napkin or cup here and there but it is not ankle deep in dirty diapers and beer bottles like at an ethnic event. A friends wife noticed this and said it was because they had a mexican picking up trash. I corrected her and pointed out the fact that only one mexican was needed to pick up after thousands of white people. The reason the place was not knee deep in trash is because the crowd was 99% white. Compare the clean fair grounds to the mess made after Obama's nignoguration event where diversity trashed the capital mall. Kradmelder

Anonymous said...

"I am supposed to believe that we came out of Africa into Europe and then changed into intelligent white people."

Yes, by a process known as Natural Selection that took place over tens of thousands of years.
The harsh European climate killed off all except the few who learned to build shelter and store food...in other words, those who survived had higher intelligence.
The skin lightened to better absorb vitamin D, and the result was a new race of people with white skin and high IQ's.

Anonymous said...

People go to Renaissance Fairs to get away from diversity and TNB. It may not be conscious and lefty types would deny it. People do not go to Renaissance Fair for basketball, they go to have fun around other white people. Kradmelder

Anonymous said...

And let's not forget the Society for Creative Anachronism, created in - where else? - Bersekely. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_for_Creative_Anachronism

Anonymous said...

See here for a small fraction of the inventions brought to the masses by the evil White man:

http://discoverytimes.blogspot.com/2010/03/most-important-inventions-and.html

Anything comparable from Africans? (crickets chirping...)

Anonymous said...

Anon @ 5:10,

You cannot stress enough the importance of the Super Soaker on Western Civilization.

Anonymous said...

A black discovered blood typing.

rjp said...

Actually it seems to mean that a lot of the people that that have told me they go to Ren Fairs are very DWL.

Very artsy, and very theatery people. People that love blacks.

But seriously, why would a black want to go to relive pre Xbox, Twitter, and MySpace days.

Ren Fairs from what I understand try to be very authentic. I was taking a class at a glass studio and they were blowing beer glasses for the event, the glasses were made in the fashion they were then, without bases on which you could set the vessel down.

Anonymous said...

Ever notice how "developing" nations never do get to the point where they are "developed"?

Don said...

Ummm, WRONG on blood typing bro!.

http://www33.brinkster.com/iiiii/inventions/#bloodbank

Anonymous said...

"A black discovered blood typing."

Wrong.

Karl Landsteiner was white.

http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/medicine/laureates/1930/landsteiner-bio.html

You are probably referring to the negro-mythology of Charles Drew.

http://www33.brinkster.com/iiiii/inventions/drew.asp

Anonymous said...

My earlier post from an earlier articel actually seems much more apropos being posted under
this "#100. Renaissance Fairs."

I've read that the technological ages of (Western) mankind can be roughly defined as:

1)Pre-Stone Age -using stones for tools, much as chimps do

2) Stone Age -actually fashioning tools from stone

3)Bronze Age - fashioned tools & weapons from bronze

4)Iron Age - tools & weapons from iron

5)Literacy Age - European Middle (Dark) Ages

6)Industrial Age - Industrial Revolution

7) Steam Age - steam power (overlaps Industrial Age)

8) Atomic Age - atomic power

9 )Age of Technology - computers

So really, sub-Saharan Africa in 2012 still hovers around the Bronze/Iron Age. To me, that says it all.

Lily White said...

Ren Fairs are really fun! I've been to several, and have always had a wonderful time. If any of you have never been, make a weekend trip to one some summer. (And Paul, that photo you have posted of the three people in Ren costumes? Could you wrap up the insanely gorgeous guy on the left and ship him to me? I think I'm in love. Thanks.)

Anonymous said...

Along the same lines as Renaissance Fairs, Knob Creek Machinegun Shoot down near Ft Knox is usually awash in an almost totally white gathering. Of the fifteen years I have managed to go at least once of the two yearly events, you might see a Very rare black or brown. I have enjoyed the shoots and Ren Festivals myself.

Off topic: Ran into a White WWII vet who served in Pattons 3rd Army as a member of the medical corp, great guy and One of those who Can See. His opinion was that there should've never been blacks in the US after 1870 and that he was sorry his generation didn't do more to get them the Hel out if the country after the war.


Pvt Spencer keeping an eye on things.

Anonymous said...

"Actually it seems to mean that a lot of the people that that have told me they go to Ren Fairs are very DWL.

Very artsy, and very theatery people. People that love blacks."

I notice that many of them also tend to be that way, about half I would say. At least here in Texas.

But the other half are a different sort. Some are more right leaning and conservative. Those are very receptive to SBPDL type messages. Many seek to preserve aspects of "European History".

And then there are the ones who still retain a trace of that old warrior spirit. Most of them are on the same page as us. Kradmelder

Anonymous said...

"I am supposed to believe that we came out of Africa into Europe and then changed into intelligent white people.

Yes, by a process known as Natural Selection that took place over tens of thousands of years.
The harsh European climate killed off all except the few who learned to build shelter and store food...in other words, those who survived had higher intelligence.
The skin lightened to better absorb vitamin D, and the result was a new race of people with white skin and high IQ's."

I tend to agree with the original poster. Tens of thousands of years is not sufficient time for the groid to evolve into anything remotely resembling the European.

The groids, left to their own devices, would continue to pick bugs off one another's backs and dig for roots. They are genetically optimized for such activities.

It would take several million years for the groids to ever evolve into anything remotely productive and I do not believe even then it would be possible. The groid primate is very primitive and not likely to ever change.

Ivan Shatov

Anonymous said...

Dr Charles Drew

http://www.blackinventor.com/pages/charles-drew.html

Wrong on blood typing. Thank you for the correction, but if you have had blood taken from a blood bank then you should be thanking him. Got to recognize credit where credit is due.

Anonymous said...

@Don said (January 1, 2012 6:06 PM)...
Ummm, WRONG on blood typing bro!.

You are correct that blacks had nothing to do with discovery of blood types. But your citation refutes a different set of lies -- that blacks (e.g. Charles Drew)played some part in developing blood plasma.

Both "black-hissree" claims are, of course, abject nonsense.

More on blood plasma(your source):

http://www33.brinkster.com/iiiii/inventions/drew.asp

And on blood types:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ABO_blood_group_system

Discard said...

I'd be willing to go to a "Zulu" themed restaurant, as long as I could have a Martini...Henry.

Zenster said...

rjp: But seriously, why would a black want to go to relive pre Xbox, Twitter, and MySpace days.


Why Black people hate going back in time. (Explanation at 00:50)

Discard said...

Kragmelder is right. Renaissance Faires are, like almost all SWPL events, highly White. Imagine the wake of dismay a few youths could create, strutting through dressed nigga style, high-fiving and jiving, bellowing "Hey muthufukkaaaa!" Might cause some cognitive dissonance among the sheep.

Discard said...

Enjoyed the show, Zenster, especially the music.

Anonymous said...

SBPDL,

I would note that your income figures for Haiti must be understood in terms of two unmentioned factors:

[1] The PCI figure includes Foreign Aid which is the largest single component in the Haitian GDP -- and has been for a long time.

[2] The Haitian population is usually given as about 10 million, which in important ways is a gross understatement: About 4 million Haitians have "emigrated" over the last several decades, about half of whom now reside in the U.S. and Canada where they derive most of their income from criminal activity and welfare.

The "usual" statistics grossly overstate the productivity of Haitians, and understate the cost burden on the rest of us by a comparable amount.

Similar statements, of course, can be made about of most of the countries listed in your piece.

Anonymous said...

How much is $1 000 1990 in 2011?
A slave in Africa these days (Oops! Last year) cost $800.

Zenster said...

Anonymous (January 1, 2012 5:55 PM): Ever notice how "developing" nations never do get to the point where they are "developed"?

Rubbish! What about South Korea and Taiwan?

Ben N Indiana said...

Here ya go . . .

Black invention myths

MuayTyson said...

Funny the wife and I went to Old Town Seoul, Insadoung. Now we live in the very center of Seoul which for Korea is very multi-cultural(Too many blacks)of all stripes Africans as well as many Russians and Muslims of all types.

You never see dark people in Insadoung. Whole stores cater to Japanese and Chinese tourists. Of course there are Whites from around the World even young White American servicemen and women go to soak in the history but it is very, very rare to see blacks or browns there.

What is it about history that frightens these people?

Sheila said...

I was going to correct our "anonymous" black troll, but Don beat me to it with the Brinkster link.

My husband has been disgusted by the recent t.v. ads for a movie about Arthurian England with a black as a knight of the Round Table. Of course, that's to be expected - I read of the series in England with a black Guinevere. Try making Shaka Zulu with a White in the role and listen to the outcry.

We went to a renaissance fair when my older son was quite small. It was typical Texas weather (hot as blazes) but he rode an elephant with his dad and had a good time. I don't remember any blacks there - and more importantly, none of the Chinese, Indians, and Muslims who have immigrated here in hordes and ruined the DFW suburbs.

As a consumer of a large amount of fiction, I am perfectly willing to suspend my disbelief re plots I know to be impossible, characters who are larger than life, etc. I cannot and will not accept blacks in medieval roles when, at the time European culture was flowering, blacks (then as now) had no written language and no concept of the wheel.

make it rain TRUTH said...

Anonymous said...

Did anyone catch ESPN's "Resurging Detroit" earlier today??

What a load! It's almost as if ESPN is actively working to provide cover for black incompetence.


ESPN is about sports.

The Detroit Lions have improved this year.

Hence, Detroit is obviously resurgent.

How football has anything whatsoever to do with a city's health or well being... I don't know. What I DO know is that I don't watch ESPN.

January 1, 2012 3:44 PMAnonymous said...

A black discovered blood typing.

January 1, 2012 5:41 PM


So that's why so many blacks commit violent crimes/murders. To get samples of blood for research.

MountainWest said...

Although, it represents a different time period, I was reading something the other day about a recent UK made-for-TV version of Robin Hood that was peppered with black and Asian characters. I'm sure there are some people who, as a result, may actually believe 12th-century England was a rainbow nation.

Discard said...

SBPDL: That Black guy is a Moor. Didn't you see "Robin Hood" with Kevin Costner? Medieval England was awash in well-spoken dark-skinned and noble-minded Moslems.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous January 1, 2012 5:55 PM:
"Ever notice how "developing" nations never do get to the point where they are "developed"?"

LOL it depends on which continent they are.

10 years ago, South Korea wasn't even considered one of the elite tier of asian nations like japan or taiwan.

Right now it's considered by analysts and economists to be the next japan.

Do you really think the 3 fastest economies in Asia(China, Vietnam and India in that order) are really equilavent to nations of the "dark continent"?

Anonymous said...

"You want us to go back in time? We are alreasy there!"

A take on the situation.

Don said...

@ Sheila
I can relate to blacks usurping renaissance roles, & thus,our heritage!. Me & the wife just moved to PA from Arizona. We went to the Arizona renaissance fair every year. Last year we saw one lone black family. They're two daughters were all decked out in 14th century princess outfits. The parents (shock, it was a family unit!) where wearing duke/ duchess outfits from the same period!.. They received many stares!.. Guess folks could not quite believe what they where seeing?!.

Anonymous said...

To the guy who said posted the link with "Dutty Fridae" (first comment), I wish I had a sharp stick so I could poke out my mind's eye. That was really, really disturbing.

Stuff like that really should come with a warning label.

Ick.

AmericanGoy said...

Off topic alert, but this is hilarious.

http://www.reddit.com/r/scifi/comments/ntdki/dont_mess_with_firefly_how_scifi_fans_made_a/c3bwznt


"The craziness in the education system is endemic and awful.

A friend of mine was pushed out of the Masters in Education program at Belmont University in TN, despite her "A" average, because she disagreed with the assertion that "students create their own reality which is as valid as anything the teacher may say". As someone with degrees in Math and Physics and most of a degree in Psychology, she has an educated opinion on the matter.

She was then accepted into a program at a different school and is now practice teaching at an inner-city Nashville school where she has been told she must never consider race when working with a student because they are all just students. In the next breath she was told she will never understand or be accepted by her students because she is a white woman.

She has also been told by the administration that there is a hierarchy in the world of these students. From top to bottom that hierarchy is: black women, black men, white men, and white women.

The level of ignorance, bigotry, and outright lunacy in the education system is nearly unbelievable. There is no mystery as to why the system is a massive failure."


This was in response to this:

"Forgetting the firefly aspect of this, the entire back and forth between the professor and the university makes me sick.

Its as if on campuses today it is free speech* as in you are free to say some things as long as they arent offensive to anyone and support the stances the campus allows.

I mean god help the professor that advocates concealed carry on campus, I bet they would say that is a threat as well (to the police and their monopoly on weapons.).

I am not saying that should be implemented, I am simply saying that their are some things that you are not allowed to discuss on campus and that is fucking insane."


I am suddenly more optimistic about the future of the world. Slowly but surely people are getting less afraid to speak up.

Praise be to the internet!

Anonymous said...

"Yes, by a process known as Natural Selection that took place over tens of thousands of years.
The harsh European climate killed off all except the few who learned to build shelter and store food...in other words, those who survived had higher intelligence."

I see.Then the harsh unforgiving jungle,the man-eating animals and even insects,venomous reptiles, and the African climate did the opposite in Africa.It dumbed the population down.
If your theory worked then all the Africans who have survived should be geniuses.

Anonymous said...

"Out of Africa" as the origin of races is nonsense, and can only be believed by the naive. That is, most academics and their toadies within the mainstream media who want to foster a view that from the bosom of "Mother Africa" we arose, and must therefore return.

The idea that "smart" proto-humans migrated north, their skin turned white in the snow, and then, presto, civilization randomly arose by way of some materialistic process is something only a very deluded person could believe.

Nothing of value has ever come from Africa. The higher never depends upon the lower, and the lower is never the origin of the higher. That is why whites must resist associating with Negroes, lest they debase themselves downward.

~AV~ said...

@ ANON 6:40 pm...

your listed starting with number 1...

I've read that the technological ages of (Western) mankind can be roughly defined as:

1)Pre-Stone Age -using stones for tools, much as chimps do

Brought to mind other animals "technically less intelligent and out of the order of primates...that have been known to use "tools"...

raxcoons and otters to name 2, have been known to utilize a rock to open shell fish.

Otters have been filmed floating on their backs with a rock on their stomache and the otter will break the shell against the rock...

Racoons have been filmed shore side with shell fish smashing it against the a rock to get to the soft meaty insides...

Considering both of these animals and compared to the chimp...I think we should rethink the comparison...


Chimps have societal settings and have "order" and family units...we can rule out blacks...

Otters....well, they can swim...we can rule out the blacks here...

OOOOOPPS...looks what's left...

Anonymous said...

The name of the continent of "Africa" isn't even of Black origin.

"Africa" was the name of a Roman Mediterranean province that comprised modern-day Tunisia.

Anonymous said...

"I see."

No. You don't.

"Then the harsh unforgiving jungle,the man-eating animals and even insects,venomous reptiles, and the African climate did the opposite in Africa.It dumbed the population down."

No. The population was already dumb, yet well equipped to survive the "harsh" jungle, with its warm weather and plentiful food. Without the significant climate change imposed by Europe (including sub-zero temps and complete absence of food), there was no substantive mechanism to kill off those of lower intelligence.

"If your theory worked then all the Africans who have survived should be geniuses."

LOLOL No, by existing in the same, unchanging climate and environment that his ancestors were already adapted to, successive generations of Africans did NOT undergo a natural selection for intelligence.

Anonymous said...

""Out of Africa" as the origin of races is nonsense, and can only be believed by the naive."

Translation:
"If you disagree with me, you're a poopyhead".

BTW, Arthur Jensen, one of the most brilliant IQ-researcher/race-realists to ever live, endorses "Out Of Africa".

If you feel compelled to contact him, in order to tell him what a "naive", "deluded" idiot he is, I think you can reach him at Cal-Berkeley.

SuperCracker said...

"I see.Then the harsh unforgiving jungle,the man-eating animals and even insects,venomous reptiles, and the African climate did the opposite in Africa.It dumbed the population down."

Ok knucklehead! If given a buck knife and appropriate clothing for the environment, where do you think your chances of survival would be better, Africa in high summer, or Northern Europe at winters peak?

Warlord1958 said...

Anonymous Discard said...

I'd be willing to go to a "Zulu" themed restaurant, as long as I could have a Martini...Henry.

January 1, 2012 8:25 PM


Thread Winner !!!

Anonymous said...

What's the black guy doing there? Why are they always there? Why were there blacks at Altamont? Big Flying Burrito Brothers fans? Um, no. Answer": Naive white women!

Anonymous said...

Seattle negro crime update!

Seattle is only 6.8% black but fully half of all annual homicides and over 80% of all violent crimes in Seattle are committed by blacks!
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2 shot during disturbance in Downtown Seattle

By KOMO Staff Published: Jan 1, 2012 at 8:44 AM PST Last Updated: Jan 1, 2012 at 10:38 AM PST


http://www.komonews.com/news/local/2-shot-during-disturbance-in-Downtown-Seattle-136502168.html

SEATTLE -- Two people were shot when a disturbance between two men turned into a gun fight in Downtown Seattle Saturday evening.

Jeff Kappel with Seattle Police says there was an argument between two groups of men near 8th and Pine around 8:40 p.m. and then shots broke out.

Witnesses said several shots were fired.

"Heard the first round, probably a couple of rounds and thought it was maybe gunfire," said Phil Daniel. "And I looked over the balcony and maybe another five or six shots rang off."

When officers arrived, they found two men wounded in the area and rushed them both to Harborview Medical Center in Seattle. A 24-year-old man suffered life-threatening injuries while the other wounded man, an 18-year-old, had less serious injuries.

One of the suspected shooters ran away after the shooting, but was later found near Boren Avenue and Pine Street. He too was taken to Harborview for treatment from a knee injury that likely happened as he was trying to flee, Kappel said.

Kappel said further investigation revealed that the 24-year-old wounded man is also a suspected shooter.

Officers recovered a handgun from a trash dumpster in the vicinity of where the 24-year-old man was found.

Both suspected shooters were booked into the King County Jail for investigation of assault once they are released from the hospital.
Kappel said it's not known what prompted the argument.
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From the comments there:

"Scanner traffic & eye witness accounts, described all as young black males. Most likely, gang members settling scores at the expense of anyone else. They can't shoot straight, & could care less if an innocent bystander catches a round in the crossfire."

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Also:

http://www.kirotv.com/ap/ap/crime/2-shot-in-downtown-seattle-during-holiday-revelry/nGC7x/

"Seattle's gang unit is investigating the incident."

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Capn' crunch said...

Rubbish. One only needs to observe the bushboogies in their enviornment to see the huge differences. It is quite obvious. When the EBT cards run out in 2012, there will riots, arson and unrest that will make the 1970's look like a fairytale. I can't wait.

Svigor said...

So, is this Zenster's article?

In any event, major kudos to the writer. I've often speculated about precisely the comparisons made in this piece. I never expected to see anyone do the work for me or for the results to be so spectacular.

Lol, at that Discover link, they're quibbling over economic details. Talk about missing the forest for the trees ("no, African Blacks today edge out 13th century English peasants by a nose, I tell ya").

Kylie said...

@ AV, your comment at 6:35 a.m. is priceless!

Anonymous said...

Right. Anthropologist and scientist of sundry expertise have been looking for that missing link where the ape or like creature changed "presto" into human form. They haven't came up with it yet. Who knows? Anytime now I suppose.
That DNA or even the human eye could develop through the survival of the fittest is so astronomically impossible, just to put the figure on this page would require several lines.
There are many different kinds of proteins in our bodies that carry out many functions that keep us living. To think that these proteins assembled themselves along the lines of survival of the fittest is ludicrous. To assume that you would have to believe that a hurricane could pass over a junk yard and assemble a fulling running automobile.
I do not believe Whites came out of Africa. I would believe Whites sprang full blown into Europe before I would believe that.

Svigor said...

There are no Black Ren Faires because most Black people don't know history.

Uhm, well, that, and the Renaissance had nothing whatsoever to do with Blacks. A Black Ren Fair would be like a White Back to Africa Fair.

I see.Then the harsh unforgiving jungle,the man-eating animals and even insects,venomous reptiles, and the African climate did the opposite in Africa.It dumbed the population down.
If your theory worked then all the Africans who have survived should be geniuses.


Crack a book some time. The jungle is not a harsh environment. Ever noticed how jungles hold most of the world's (land) diversity? That's because, where selection pressure is light, diversity flourishes. In harsh environments, only the strongest species survive, which is why there's less genetic diversity in temperate and cold environments.

W74 said...

I like the Yahoo article you linked to where the mayor of Milwaukee said:

“I’ll take some heat,” Mayor Tom Barrett told ABC News. ”Some ZIP codes in Milwaukee have infant mortality rates higher than Third World countries. That’s unacceptable.”

That's because some zip codes in Milwaukee are full of third world PEOPLE. Did anyone expect outcomes to be different? We have similar billboards in and around Baltimore, separate room, their own crib instead of a mattress or dog pillow, you know, those kinds of things.

And anyway, wasn't Mayor Barrett put in the spotlight for his remarks regarding the black mobs at the Wisconsin state fair back in June?

Don said...

@anon: 7:23. Lol, even the name for the continent of Africa is named after a white guy!.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scipio_Africanus

Svigor said...

I'm agnostic on Out of Africa vs. multi-regional selection vs. fill-in-the-blank. I don't really care. But people who object to OOA seem to have a problem with evolution, per se. I have no more problem saying "Whites evolved from Blacks" (a gross oversimplification, actually a mis-statement of OOA, but never mind that) than I have saying "Whites evolved from Prokaryotes." I no more see this as an avenue of attack for Black-worshippers than I would for Prokaryote-worshippers.

Svigor said...

Answer": Naive white women!

Nope. Answer:"topic censored."

Anonymous said...

"Worse, medieval England was twice as prosperous as the "developing" nations of today,"

Yep, being alive during the European miracle(largely centered around Europe curiously enough) has been and is the best time to be alive as a human being on planet earth.

"Also, I've seen that stupid fucking "Red Tails" trailer at least half a dozen times today, funny that it looks kinda like a spoof."

When they hype the hell out of something that means that it is going to bomb.

"Right. And I am supposed to believe that we came out of Africa into Europe and then changed into intelligent white people. I do not now believe that nor have I ever nor will I ever believe that."

The north african/sub-saharan african split happened before our ancestors left africa. It was an extremely gradual process over the course of hundreds, not tens of thousands of years.

"I see.Then the harsh unforgiving jungle,the man-eating animals and even insects,venomous reptiles, and the African climate did the opposite in Africa.It dumbed the population down.
If your theory worked then all the Africans who have survived should be geniuses."

Just how intelligence was selected for is a contentious issue, there is no one factor. Environmental harshness does play a role, and the existence of such flora and fauna in africa shows that life there was not quite as harsh as the frozen north. Likewise the temperature difference effects how big the brain can get. We lose half of our body heat through our head, and heat dissipation is a major issue. The shape of our brain for instance, is a very inefficient shape for heat dissipation(surface area vs volume). That said size is not the only factor for intelligence, the largest brains on earth belong to whales, who have the infinite heatsink of the oceans available to them. Still we would not be wasting resources on larger brains if they gave no benefit. The black population of the south was initially larger than the white population especially in certain areas precisely because of this issue. Remember that we only imported 300k slaves, and the rest are their decendants, no such limit existed on white immigration. It was not until our technology solved the various problems such as air conditioning, wiping out the hookworm, and so on that it became possible for us to thrive in those environments. Ability to dissipate heat should establish an upper limit on intelligence.

And then there is the selection issue with regards to our respective cultures,which further served to reinforce the underlying genetics.

Stuff Black People Don't Like said...

Svigor,

Nope, this is a PK article. Unless otherwise stated, all articles are by the same person.

Zenster's article(s) are coming.

The Elector of Saxony said...

RJP, those are the most frightening links I've seen in awhile. Does anyone believe that Homo Sapiens Sapiens includes Mozart, Shakespeare, Galileo, Heisenberg and...those?

Anonymous said...

Public transportation is so groovy and "progressive"!

http://www.kgw.com/news/TriMet-bus-driver-suspected-of-shoplifting-at-mall-136469553.html

TriMet bus driver accused of shoplifting

by Justin Burton
Follow: @KGWNews

Posted on December 30, 2011

CLACKAMAS -- A TriMet bus driver was accused of shoplifting from the Clackamas Town Center while on break Friday evening.

Harolyn Kindred, 42, parked her bus at the mall just before 8 p.m., went into the Sephora beauty store, made a fraudulent return and stole some merchandise, according to Sgt. Doug Burgess with the Clackamas Co. Sheriff's Office.

Kindred was arrested on a theft charge and taken to the Clackamas Co. Jail, where she was booked and released. She was scheduled to be in court in January. The case was forwarded to the District Attorney's office.

TriMet spokesperson Mary Fetsch reiterated that Kindred was on break--and not on the clock--at the time of the incident, and the transit agency is working in conjunction with the Sheriff's Office.

Kindred started working for TriMet in November 2004, and she was placed on paid leave as the investigation continued.

Anonymous said...

"Anthropologist and scientist of sundry expertise have been looking for that missing link where the ape or like creature changed "presto" into human form."

I've never heard of the "presto" theory before.

I think you made it up.

Either way, it is not relevant to the Out Of Africa Theory, which you apparently do not understand.

Anonymous said...

"I'm agnostic on Out of Africa vs. multi-regional selection vs. fill-in-the-blank. I don't really care. But people who object to OOA seem to have a problem with evolution, per se. I have no more problem saying "Whites evolved from Blacks" (a gross oversimplification, actually a mis-statement of OOA, but never mind that) than I have saying "Whites evolved from Prokaryotes." I no more see this as an avenue of attack for Black-worshippers than I would for Prokaryote-worshippers."

Well stated, Svigor. My feelings exactly, especially the "gross over-simplification" part.

mpresley said...

BTW, Arthur Jensen, one of the most brilliant IQ-researcher/race-realists to ever live, endorses "Out Of Africa".

If you feel compelled to contact him, in order to tell him what a "naive", "deluded" idiot he is, I think you can reach him at Cal-Berkeley.


You seem to take my (unsigned-sorry about that) post as a personal insult. And you seem to believe that the matter of origins has been settled.

First, to disabuse you, I never called anyone an idiot, and I'd never disparage the academic and intellectual integrity of Rushton, Jensen, Lynn, Shockley and others; men who know more than I, and men who have done a great service to the cause of race realism. Their current research is well supported.

But they will be the first to tell you that when it comes to origins, there is much speculation involved. Please do not misconstrue their work by conflating current research on IQ with evolutionary speculation.

My critique is philosophical. Never has the lower been responsible for the higher. I know that I am out of the mainstream with my view, yet I am not a materialist. I find, for instance, that Aristotelian notions of essential causation are a better explanation than typical "mechanistic" biological explanations (or even origins based on misguided creationism, for that matter). In any case, how we got here (and where we are going) remains an enigma.

Certainly I question whether the usual materialistic based idea of genetic variation over time is responsible for speciation, but even if it is correct opinion that it happened that way, and that all races originated inside Africa, it does not mitigate the fact that Negroes are intrinsically different than whites when it comes to IQ and behavior. And that established fact, in and of itself, makes the "Out of Africa" notion simply a curiosity.

Zenster said...

MuayTyson: What is it about history that frightens these people?

I can only refer you back to my comment at: January 1, 2012 8:26 PM.
(Explanation at 00:50)

Sheila said...

One of the reason so many people enjoy Renaissance Fairs, I suspect, is because the present is so distressing. I use all sorts of fiction to escape multicultural and PC reality.

Yesterday's paper (which went from a very readable, conservative paper when we moved here 16 years ago to a super leftist rag today) featured a few gems: to wit, the black police chief has decided cops will no longer accept reports of shoplifting where the value is $50 or less, purportedly to concentrate on the organized theft of higher dollar items. This essentially tells blacks and browns that they can steal small quantities with impunity. Second marvelous article noted the huge influx of Burmese children in a neighboring school system. Not only are they extremely primitive, but also they each speak a totally different regional language so cannot even understand one another, let alone English. Blessed fruits of diversity!

Finally, watching t.v. (yes, I'm being utterly lazy at the moment since my younger returns to school tomorrow and I start the whole 5:45 AM rise and homework routine again) I've seen two new miscegenation commercials. One is for some sort of lip gloss (babylips?) featuring lots of White women and finishing with a crowd of various women and one black guy. Pretty blatant. The other (can't recall what it's for) showed two White women on an airplane, then cuts to a scene where the plane crashed and they're on the beach. A black guy approaches (I had the sound off the whole time so I have no idea what the dialogue was) and one of the White women begins to unbutton her blouse and approach the black.

These are so shameless and over the top that it's mind boggling to realize how many people see these and just accept them as reality, no political or social agenda implied at all.

My own contribution over the Christmas break was to praise and calm a number of stressed, White parents shopping with children, letting them check out before me and praising their children's appearance and demeanor. Just a small way of spreading a little sunshine and letting them know someone values their sacrifice and their family. It's my own form of White AA and I do it whenever possible. Makes the parents smile and makes me feel like I'm actually doing a little something rather than internet whining.

Hope all had a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year's eve.

Donskoy said...

@Discard at 12:19

The Moorish elite consisted of White Arabs, Berbers, and Arabized or Berberized Basques, Galicians, Asturians, Franks, Goths, and the like -- even Slavs and Lombards. It is said that Tariq ibn Ziyad, a Berber-Visigoth mix and the conqueror of Hispania and Septimania, was fair-skinned and blonde-haired, and both Muslim and Christian artistic depictions show him as a white man of Celtic or Germanic phenotype.

The Moors were not black -- some were fair, others olive-skinned -- but their menial slaves were disproportionately blacks from the Sahel and the Horn of Africa.

Ben N Indiana said...

"Out of Africa"

and

"Descended from Negroes"

is not the same.

Black and Whites likely have a common ancestor.; but I doubt that one evolved from the other.

Anonymous said...

Watch any modern peroid BBC drama or swashbuckling adventures & you will see lots of African and Asians cast as knights & merchants ect.

I remember watching a new BBC legal drama called "Garrow's Law" which is set in Georgian Britain, & in one episode the camera panned to the gallery & there in there high society frocks sat four negro women.

Joseph Goebbles once said. If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the state can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the state to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the state.

In other words, expect to see African Americans included in these Ranassance Fairs in the future.

And why not? Haven't the cultural marxist already given them our cities our schools are white daughters. So why not our history, it would be "racist" not to.

gerry.

Steve said...

Waay off topic Paul, but I got a Kindle for Christmas and the first book I downloaded was Hollywood In Black Face. Have to say I'm really enjoying it, keep up the great work!

Donskoy said...

"Watch any modern peroid BBC drama or swashbuckling adventures & you will see lots of...Asians cast as knights & merchants ect."

It wouldn't be a problem if the Asian actors played Pechenegs, Cumans, Bulgars, Tatars, Magyars, Khazars, Oghuz, or other Asiatic nomadic groups in constant interaction -- wartime and peacetime -- with European Christendom...

Svigor said...

My critique is philosophical. Never has the lower been responsible for the higher.

Absurd. The lower is ALWAYS "responsible for" the higher. We're formed of cells. Cells are formed of atoms. Dogs (superior from man's POV) were formed from wolves. Man was formed from apes. Modern technology was derived from pre-modern technology. I could go on like this forever.

Zenster said...

Permit me to provide a highly unorthodox view of the Black phenotype.

Consider the redwood tree. This phenomenal organism is almost perfectly adapted to its environment. Until more recent investigations provided any disproof, Redwood variants were readily believed to be the oldest and largest living plant life. The 2,700 year old “Grizzly Giant” sequoia and 370 foot “Stratosphere Giant” coastal redwood were long thought of as being uncontested in the realm of plant life record-holders.

Those titles have fallen to the +5,000 year-old bristlecone pine (Pinus balfouriana) and a 110 acre site in Utah's Wasatch Mountains that is home to a single root system of the aspen (Populus tremuloides) which has some 47,000 ramets ("trees") weighing about 13.2 million tons.

Still, for this world's largest living single-stem tree, the 275 foot tall giant Sequoia (Sequoia giganteum) named, General Sherman, at 52,500 cubic feet with a trunk weight of over 1,800 tons is only overshadowed by a coastal redwood (Sequoia sempervirens), named Hyperion which stands at a height of 379.1 feet and the, now fallen, Lindsey Creek redwood that had a trunk volume of 88,000 cubic feet and a mass of over 3,300 tons.

The reason for mentioning redwoods is that when geologists open up fossil-bearing rocks from the dinosaur age, they find redwood needles and cones of the exact same configuration that we see in today’s trees.

That is because the redwood tree is what paleo-biologists call an "evolutionary prime". The redwood is so perfectly adapted to its environment that this plant has found no need to evolve for the last two hundred million years or more.

[to be continued]

Zenster said...

For those of you who have borne with this lengthy digression, please now consider how Blacks may represent a sort of "evolutionary prime” of all their own.

Clearly, they are perfectly adapted to Africa’s jungle environment to such an extent whereby it provides so much food and shelter that Blacks have never had to construct substantial buildings (i.e., apartment blocks) or dedicate themselves to large-scale agriculture such as the corn or wheat plantings seen here in America.

Given their geographically perfect adaptation, no further evolution of skin color or brain case was needed to continue harvesting the Dark Continent’s copious bounty.

Enter the White man with his extraordinary ability to shelter himself from the elements in all climates and either grow or preserve food in such quantities that even some of the most drastic latitudes were made habitable. Said White men were also sufficiently advanced in navigational ability and the invention of locomotion that sailing to Africa and buying a few hundred thousand Black slaves became economically feasible.

Thus was the Black man introduced to a geography and climate in which they may well not have been able to survive under any other circumstance.

In fact while, perhaps, representing some sort of “evolutionary prime”, most Blacks in modern America could not survive without the innovations and matchless productivity of Whites that produce the foodstuffs, housing and energy resources required for their continued existence.

This is borne out by how so many Blacks are utterly reliant upon both White technology and largesse to provide for their daily existence. Without White-constructed housing projects, electrical energy and EBT cards, most Blacks would swiftly perish from exposure to the less forgiving North American elements.

Even a temporary breach in this mantle of protective technology tends to see Blacks enter a panic mode of rampaging and thrashing about such as that witnessed in the wake of hurricane Katrina.

If there is, perhaps, one thing that Blacks can blame the White man for, it is that they have been pampered, coddled and cosseted far beyond what they deserve with respect to their own relatively minor degree of contribution to modern civilization.

That the IQ of Blacks in general has not risen at all for centuries along with how the Black-controlled regions of continental Africa continue to wallow in unproductive corruption and incompetence at best, if not brutal genocides at worst, is stark testimony to how Blacks represent an unadaptive phenotype whose potential contributions to modern mankind’s overall progress are, to put it kindly, limited at best.

Dissident said...

Sheila, you raise some very interesting points on the TV commercials showing blatant race-mixing.

Many people think that this is just "liberal" Hollywood's attempt at being PC and promoting this as a natural thing in today's society, I, however, believe that the agenda is way more sinister than most would believe.

There is an agenda at work, how else can we explain such blatant anti-white agit-propaganda? This is the deliberate BROWNING of Amerika and ALL other white nations, what else could it be?

Who's behind it?

That's the million dollar question, but many may be surprised to know who the prime movers are? I have my hunches, but I feel it's way more than just some "Hollywood liberals" or Madison Ave. Homosexuals, etc.

This is a long range agenda at diluting the white race into a politically unimportant and culturally insignificant, dumbed-down, group of Brown people. Just my Two cents.

Anonymous said...

"You seem to take my (unsigned-sorry about that) post as a personal insult."

Condescending words like "naive" and "deluded" usually suggest derision.

"And you seem to believe that the matter of origins has been settled."

Absolutely not, only that varying theories (including OOA) are reasonably credible.

Anonymous said...

"Man was formed from apes." - Svigor

Do tell. Then where are the intermediate forms? (roll eyes) there aren't any!

Even Stephen Gould admitted that was an overwhelming problem for the theory of Evolution. We have the apes and the end product with no intermediary in-process forms.

Silent Running said...

The problem I have with theories like OoA is that they involve such vast speculation as to be almost meaningless. Every new discovery of very ancient skeletons in non-African locales seems to throw the entire theory into question.

What is certain is that, correct or not, the OoA theory is used by academia in an effort to utterly delegitimize the Caucasian race, the argument being that since we "originated" in the same place, We Are All Africans and there can be no fundamental differences between us (unless it shows nonwhites to be superior), Caucasians can take no pride in themselves because their ancestors were black, etc.

mpresley said...

Svigor: Absurd. The lower is ALWAYS "responsible for" the higher. Cells are formed of atoms...

This sort of reductionism is quite faulty as an explanation. For how is it that a "cell", or a molecule," or an "electron" directs consciousness, purposeful action, or intentionality? Only within the "higher" does such a thing even make sense. To put it another way, the whole is always greater than the sum of its parts. And no one, not even the most committed naturalist really thinks that we are simply a "collection" of smaller parts (be they cells, molecules, or atoms).

Modern science has tried very hard to deny intentionality (or intrinsic purpose) in its explanations; the biologists have had the most difficult time of it with their evolutionary theory, and with their eliminative arguments because evolution, by its nature, presupposes intentionality or directedness.

The ancients understood it all better. They understood that a thing cannot give what it does not possess. They also understood that a thorough going naturalism essentially results in the denial of higher order meaning, which IS an absurdity. But all of this has been forgotten, and now with our modern science we are under the spell of an idea of general progress.

But like many of our cherished ideas, such as equality and universal democracy, the end result leads to devolution. Detroit is a good example. In Detroit, the lower attempted to manifest the higher.

Zenster said...

Silent Running: What is certain is that, correct or not, the OoA theory is used by academia in an effort to utterly delegitimize the Caucasian race, the argument being that since we "originated" in the same place, We Are All Africans and there can be no fundamental differences between us (unless it shows nonwhites to be superior), Caucasians can take no pride in themselves because their ancestors were black, etc.

Yours is one of the first decent arguments for why the OOA theory shouldn't be taken as accepted fact. The +90% overlap in chimpanzee and human DNA certainly points towards some sort of common primate ancestry, but the apparent 4 million year old divergence between them leaves plenty of time for separate evolution between Whites and Blacks.

I must say that ― if Whites and Blacks are supposed to be so identical ― after having had well over a century's benefit from White public education in America, why hasn't the Black mean IQ made much of a perceptible increase?

Wilco said...

The Out of Africa theory is Frankfurt School nonsense for the hard sciences. Lesser scientists may embrace it as True Believers, but the real Truth Seekers use it to sneak otherwise unpopular data past the thought police.

It's like the Libertarianism of the Science world. People who know better endorse it in the hopes they can bootstrap other ideas to it that would otherwise not pass muster.

Example (OOA):

Yes! Whites are smarter than blacks! (But it's okay because blacks are really our genetic parents.)(Of course once we recognize that no amount of money will make blacks smarter, all bets are off.)

Example (Libertarianism):

Yes! We want freedom of association! (But it's okay because we're not racist and we want open borders.)
(Of course once freedom of association is established, all bets are off.)

Zenster said...

Wilco: Yes! Whites are smarter than blacks! (But it's okay because blacks are really our genetic parents.)(Of course once we recognize that no amount of money will make blacks smarter, all bets are off.)

Which is the same point I closed my last comment with. Here is something of extreme interest that was buried in a page I that reviewed as part of my last post.

With preliminary data from the genome project now in hand, scientists believe that the actual number of genes is around 70,000 (Shouse, 2002, 295:1447). It appears that only about 1.5% of the human genome consists of genes, which code for proteins. These genes are clustered in small regions that contain sizable amounts of “non-coding” DNA (frequently referred to as “junk DNA”) between the clusters. The function of these non-coding regions is only now being determined.

These findings indicate that even if all of the human genes were different from those of a chimpanzee, the DNA still could be 98.5 percent similar if the “junk” DNA of humans and chimpanzees were identical.


I didn't want to add any emphasis that might have disrupted the author's own so, I'll ask that everyone read that quote's last sentence very carefully.
(I inserted a line break for convenience.)

This is a real game changer and I eagerly await some bio-realist's analysis of differences between the protein-encoding gene sequences in Homo sapiens and Pan troglodytes.

For gits and shiggles, my own theory about "junk DNA" is that, by distributing the vital protein encoding sequences along a much lengthier helical strand, it conferred a better degree of immunity to radiation induced damage; as compared to how a compact strand of "junkless" DNA likely could not withstand even a single impact.

Zimri said...

"The Out of Africa theory is Frankfurt School nonsense for the hard sciences."

You're poisoning the well.

The Out of Africa hypothesis has interest for its own sake. Currently it has been fine-tuned, such that they're saying it's 90-95% true. (Neanderthals, and also Denisovans for SE Asians, making up the difference.) None of this is political. None of it is even racial, really. It's just a bunch of stuff they found out.

Yanno how I don't like politically-correct crap in the sciences, from the left? I'd not like it much more from the right, either. Let's just sit back and let the geneticists and archaeologists sort it out. If they do start with the Stephen Gould silliness again, then, we can attack them, like with the AGW stuff.

Discard said...

Donskoy at 1:27 PM, Jan 2: I was making a joke about H'wood inserting Blacks into White history. I know that Moors were not sub-Saharan Africans.

Wilco said...

Zimri,

I'd like to sit back and let others figure it out but I've come to realize that academia is much like DNA, with 98.5 percent of its decoded sequence being junk.

My theory of such a vast quantity of academia being junk is to make sure that Western peoples can't connect the dots between nonsensical ad hoc "data" points and become self-determining individuals, and instead remain mind-numbed slaves.

Academia is a bell jar for the mind. Cut off the oxygen and blatant fraud becomes the reality. If the OOA theory wouldn't have deleterious effects on the moral authority of the argument for white self-determination, it wouldn't be pushed. It wouldn't be in the Smithsonian magazine, on PBS, or in TIME.

Academia is a means to an end. Our end. Until I see otherwise, I'll disagree. Just like the experts.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous January 2, 2012 4:05 PM repeats the creationist canard that there are supposedly no "transitional forms."

The truth is that there are so many many fossils of "transitional forms" that I couldn't possibly list them all here. The only way that the claim of their absence may be remotely justified, aside from ignoring the evidence completely, is to redefine "transitional" as referring to a fossil that is a direct ancestor of one organism and a direct descendant of another. However, direct lineages are not required; they could not be verified even if found. What a transitional fossil is, in keeping with what the theory of evolution predicts, is a fossil that shows a mosaic of features from an older and more recent organism.

I recommend this video: The Theory of Evolution Made Easy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7w57_P9DZJ4

"Even Stephen Gould admitted that was an overwhelming problem for the theory of Evolution."

Utter nonsense. He never made any such claim. You either misunderstood what he wrote or, more likely, are simply regurgitating creationist propaganda.

Here's the full story.
http://www.outersystem.us/creationism/creatnonsense_gould.html#726

Here is Gould in his own words:
"Since we proposed punctuated equilibria to explain trends, it is infuriating to be quoted again and again by creationists -- whether through design or stupidity, I do not know -- as admitting that the fossil record includes no transitional forms. The punctuations occur at the level of species; directional trends (on the staircase model) are rife at the higher level of transitions within major groups." [Stephen Jay Gould, "Evolution as Fact and Theory," Hens Teeth and Horse's Toes: Further Reflections in Natural History, New York: W. W. Norton & Co., 1983, pp. 258-260.]

Since you're a creationist, it won't matter how many transitional fossils I show you, or how I show you that Gould himself says that he didn't say what creationists falsely attribute to him. You will come back tomorrow and claim that there are no transitional fossils, and you will claim that Gould said that this is a problem for evolution.

Ian J. MacDonald

randian said...

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the politically correct insertion of a black character in Merlin (UK TV swords & sorcery show). Romano-British England circa 500 AD wouldn't have had any native blacks.

Anonymous said...

I'd love to attend one of these fairs, since they do not attract blacks. Just as many other past times white Americans particiapte in do not attract blacks. A Renaissance Fair is the one place where the "Black Knight" is a white guy.

Anonymous said...

@MacDonald

1. I never said I was a creationist. Did you just pull that out of thin air?

2. There are NO intermidiate forms in the fossil record. None. The closest thing that was found was "Lucy" which was later proved false.

We should literally be tripping over intermediate forms from the transition from ape to man. We aren't because there aren't any.

Anonymous said...

Renaissance fairs a great fun for the family. AND...when a really hot chick wears chainmaille - there is nothing hotter. (Alot of chicks that should wear it, however, do). Treat yourself.

Discard said...

Anon at 8:08 AM: What is Australopithicus or any other hominid fossil but a intermediate form between ape and human?

kev said...

Kennedy center [yeah they were creeps] is having a Kwanaza celebration...
and 'kill whites' Malcom X has a US postage stamp...sick eh?
but france has a street named after his spawn MUMIA!

kev said...

Cultural exhibitions include the Spirit of Kwanzaa, an annual celebration held at the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts featuring interpretive dance, African dance, song and poetry.[15][16]

The first U.S. postage stamp commemorating Kwanzaa, issued in 1997
The first Kwanzaa stamp was issued by the United States Postal Service on October 22, 1997, with artwork by Synthia Saint James.[17] In 2004, a second Kwanzaa stamp, designed by Daniel Minter, was issued; this has seven figures in colorful robes symbolizing the seven principles.[18]
The holiday has also spread


Malcolm X - Google Books Result
books.google.com/books?isbn=0822524449...Michael Benson - 2005 - Juvenile Nonfiction - 112 pages
When a plane crashed in Atlanta and 120 white people were killed, Malcolm called the event "the good news." After hearing Malcolm preach

Anonymous said...

@Dissident- 2:43 on 2Jan12

You may be onto something here but the better question is, How did we get lured down this path of deception and treachery so easily, and so quickly? How is it that so little resistance emerged? Was everyone caught up mindlessly in the Good Times of 1960 onwards?

Not a conspiracy exactly, more like a gradual shift in consciousness (and a shift into unconsciousness via entertainment) led by a cultural elite. There is always some leading elite in existence but this time around they are completely driven by a radical, destructive ideology (liberalism) that we must resist with every ounce of energy we have.

Lawrence Auster is one of the most cogent writers on understanding what liberalism is. Here is a piece by Auster on race relations:
http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/019828.html

Anonymous said...

It is an old creationist canard that "there are NO intermidiate [sic] forms in the fossil record."

Your statement is absolute nonsense. There are many "intermediate forms" or "transitional forms" or "missing links" or what have you. http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CC/CC200.html

Australopithecus afarensis, from 3.9 to 3.0 million years ago (Mya). Its skull is similar to a chimpanzee's, but with more humanlike teeth. Most (possibly all) creationists would call this an ape, but it was bipedal.

Australopithecus africanus (3 to 2 Mya); its brain size, 420-500 cc, was slightly larger than A. afarensis, and its teeth yet more humanlike.

Homo habilis (2.4 to 1.5 Mya), which is similar to australopithecines, but which used tools and had a larger brain (650-cc average) and less projecting face.

Homo erectus (1.8 to 0.3 Mya); brain size averaged about 900 cc in early H. erectus and 1,100 cc in later ones. (Modern human brains average 1,350 cc.)

A Pleistocene Homo sapiens which was "morphologically and chronologically intermediate between archaic African fossils and later anatomically modern Late Pleistocene humans" (White et al. 2003, 742).

Ian Q. MacDonald

Zenster said...

Wilco: I'd like to sit back and let others figure it out but I've come to realize that academia is much like DNA, with 98.5 percent of its decoded sequence being junk.

You are making reference to what has come to be known as "The Iceberg Theorem".

As with icebergs, 90% of most problems are not immediately apparent."

Then there is its corollary: "The Generalized Iceberg Theorem".

90% of everything is shit.

Anonymous said...

"Even Stephen Gould admitted that was an overwhelming problem for the theory of Evolution."

Utter nonsense. He never made any such claim. You either misunderstood what he wrote or, more likely, are simply regurgitating creationist propaganda.


Even if Gould had said that he was known to be a charlatan.

Zenster said...

Anonymous (January 3, 2012 6:57 AM): A Renaissance Fair is the one place where the "Black Knight" is a white guy.

Thank you for a good larf. Here's one in return.

Svigor said...

Look argue creationism or your pet theory of evolution all you want. But don't blow smoke up my ass - don't imply or state that ZOMG evolution/OOA says we came from Blacks and nothing superior ever came from anything inferior!"

Stop conflating your religion with my racism.

As for the semantics over my "reductionism," his choice of words - "responsible for" - not mine. It's quite clear from the context that I'm right and he's wrong.

I mean, what's next, saying a man can't develop from a baby?

Svigor said...

There is always some leading elite in existence but this time around they are completely driven by a radical, destructive ideology (liberalism) that we must resist with every ounce of energy we have.

How does Israel continue to exist in the face of this supposed "liberalism"?

The elite is not liberal, not really. If they were, they'd dismantle Israel the way they dismantled Apartheid, the way they're dismantling White America, etc.

Real liberals drink their own Kool-Aid. Faux liberals don't. They pawn it off on others.

Zenster said...

Svigor: Stop conflating your religion with my racism.

Thread winner!

mpresley said...

@ Svigor: "Look argue...all you want. But don't blow smoke up my ass - "

Your ass? Has it come down to that? Some folks start and end their thinking scatologically, especially when they have a difficult time understanding the arguments, and are unable to offer anything really germane to principled discussion.

However, if one always looks downward for explanations of origins, and fundamental principles, they may never be able to see the light simply because their head will be stuck in a place where it shouldn't.

Svigor said...

Your ass? Has it come down to that? Some folks start and end their thinking scatologically, especially when they have a difficult time understanding the arguments, and are unable to offer anything really germane to principled discussion.

WTF do these people have to do with the price of tea in China? Stick to the GD conversation, will you?

However, if one always looks downward for explanations of origins, and fundamental principles, they may never be able to see the light simply because their head will be stuck in a place where it shouldn't.

Bla bla bla. You love the sound of your own voice, don't you?

Mr. Rational said...

mpresley, your "devastating" refutation of human evolution has made you legendary—in your own mind.  In reality, every significant claim you've made is either false (see the Index of Creationist Claims, cited elsewhere) or logically incoherent.

If you are a biblical creationist and deny evolution, there is no reason to believe that human subpopulations differ widely in character.  On the other hand, such differences are predicted by evolutionary theory and confirmed by everything from social sciences to the Human Genome Project.  The left (and PC scientists, including those who should know better like PZ Myers) deny this, but it is nonetheless true.

The effort to debate you diverts this forum from worthier pursuits.  This makes you, for all intents and purposes, a leftist troll.  If you do not believe yourself to be such, have the decency to shut up, listen and try to understand before you jump in over your head.  Again.

Keir said...

Yet if you watch any historical drama produced by the BBC set between the Roman occupation to the Edwardian Age, it appears that at least 5% of the population was a visible minority. As a teacher, this political correctness is now influencing our past whilst the future seems hopeless.

Zenster said...

Keir: As a teacher, this political correctness is now influencing our past whilst the future seems hopeless.

It is historical revisionism, pure and simple. This re-scripting of reality is part and parcel of Liberal efforts to cripple free and independent thought.

A sterling example of modern revisionism is the 9-11 Memorial Statue.

Following 9/11, there was a debate over the need for "inclusiveness" in a proposed 9/11 Memorial based on the iconic photograph of three white firemen raising an American flag at Ground Zero. At the far end of a broad spectrum of sentiments was the hope that "the artistic expression of diversity would supersede any concern over factual correctness". On this view, a memorial depicting a factual account of the event would have been racist, sexist, and divisive. The logic of diversity takes otherwise straightforward matters and twists them into politicized knots.

Picture three white fire fighters raising the American flag at Ground Zero. Then picture a magical transformation: a statue of one white, one black and one Hispanic. The rulers of political correctness didn't like what really happened, so they plan to portray it the way they think it should have been.


There are more examples of school textbook revisionism in my comment from the "Dolphin Tale" thread.

Everything you need to know about the BBC.

BBC Director General Mark Thompson admitted to the UK Daily Mail in an article today that Britain's state-run news outlet has had a "massive" left-wing bias.

Discard said...

Regarding the insertion of non-Whites into White history, I think that we ought use the lies to delegitimize the liars, and be grateful that they make it easy by lying so extravagantly. For example, on another site, some multi-cult claimed that "...Chinese built the railroads" in this country. I pointed out the actual role the Chinese played (laying track for the Central Pacific from California to Utah, then some of the workers getting jobs with other railroads), and the logical absurdity of magnifying that role beyond it's historical dimensions. I shut the dweeb up, but more importantly, I may have clued him in about the quality of the education he'd received. This movie "Red Tails" provides us a similar opportunity to dismantle their lies.

It has long been a tactic of leftists to simply criticize anything Western, on any grounds. The constant verbal erosion has given us a nation where George Washington was just an old racist with wooden teeth (ivory actually), and MLK was a saint. While we might wish to blast the edifice of the Marxist multi-cult all at once, we can't. But every one of us can chip away, every day bringing doubt to the people. The lies are no longer subtle or well-disguised as altruism. Rip them.

Anonymous said...

Renaissance Fair is a participation sport where any one is allowed to play if they wish.

Renaissance Fair is also an expression of high European culture.

While not as professional as opera and ballet, it can be like theater where any one can show up and play any part they like to what ever extent they are able. Or unable, which is usually just as much fun.

A mini vacation away from 'divershity' that is enjoyable for the entire family. Even the 'big girls' get to be pretty for once in their beautiful dresses that show off their cleavage.

Another profound aspect of the Renaissance Fair is the way the White children behave. No mindless screaming the way non white kids (mis)behave. Their shining eyes are open wide as dinner plates as they absorb and learn. They don't fuss or scream much, such is the enchantment and wonder the Renaissance Fair gives to them.

There is such a great contrast between the beautiful and intelligent White children and the screaming young blacks or browns. They are nothing like us and we are nothing like them. Renaissance Fair is just another stark proof of the differences between White people and sub human savages.

History itself is a matter of shame for the blacks (and mex). For their entire existence they did nothing but torment, enslave, and eat each other. The fact that they now have clothes and the benefits of White mans technology has not changed them, they are still cannibal savages.
Kradmelder

Anonymous said...

As a teacher, this political correctness is now influencing our past whilst the future seems hopeless.

Only 24 days until Black History month!

Anonymous said...

Renaissance Fairs are full of some of the most creative people. The exact opposite of worthless blacks.
Many Renaissance Fairs are almost entirely organic, built from the ground up by the people who work or sell there. Medieval Times is an exception but it is not a fair, it is a professional show.
Smiths hammer in their forges, potters spin their wheels, weavers work their looms, people are creating useful things at a Renaissance Fair. There are all sorts of other craftsmen and craftswomen doing things that no black would ever do on it's own.
Many of the elaborate costumes you will see were hand made by the people wearing them.
The creativity on display at a Renaissance Fair may not be high tech but most of it is practical. One gets the impression that if the modern world were to vanish the people at the Renaissance Fair could continue on quite happily on their own.
But all blacks ever create is broken glass and more blacks.
Kradmelder

Questionably Victorious said...

Re: Anonymous
"Harolyn Kindred, 42, parked her bus at the mall just before 8 p.m., went into the Sephora beauty store, made a fraudulent return and stole some merchandise, according to Sgt. Doug Burgess with the Clackamas Co. Sheriff's Office."

I keep a part-time job at Sephora, and let me tell you, you have to be seriously retarded to get busted for shoplifting from Sephora. There are so many rules regarding the circumstances in which you're even allowed to call security on someone who is CLEARLY stealing, it's freaking embarrassing.

heshimu said...

Those who judge men by their skin are poor examples of holiness and integrity. God teaches us that love is like God, and He receives all who come to Him. Man is not saved by being White or Black, but by the blood of Jesus Christ.

Robb said...

This is crap. I work ren fairs and all cultures, colors , creeds and kinds are welcome AND represented, even you, if you can be polite and respectful.

Anonymous said...

This Ignorance is overwhelming. Let it be known, the epidemic has morphed to pandemic and lies not only in the hearts of Baltimore, Detroit, and Brooklyn.

FuckYeahAfricaRules said...

Wow. I have no words… the amount of such simple minded thinking on this site is incredible. All of this, most definitely, is ignorance at best. Thank you for proving that rednecks still exist. Thank you for the constant reminder that the KKK wasn't too long ago in this 'american' history--and indeed still exists. All of you white people are just sad (not all--just the ignorant racist ones, which, in this case, are most of the people on this site). You have nothing better to do than make yourself feel better by putting down other people because of skin color as if it really mattered. We are all one race--human. You cannot compare one to the other. One person does not equal one ethnicity, or speak for the whole population of that ethnicity. So take whatever facts you have obtained from whatever website (obviously moderated by white people, of course you'll get biased results) to prove whatever point (actually not proving anything, just giving each other bedtime stories to help each other sleep at night) and happily shove it up each others raw pink rectums.

Also, I-- a black person--happen to enjoy the whole renaissance period. *gasp* contrary to this entire article. And when you celebrate your white heritage--make sure to celebrate your african roots as well because that is where you all came from. Regardless of what your white/pink/red faced brothers Steve, Dustin, Jake, Tanner, Dick, Carl, or Logan says.

For there to even be a website like this is absurd. But I'd like to say Thank you, white people, for your dedication to us. The fact that you're so interested in our lives to the point where you could make a site like this :) brings me such happiness.

'Love me or hate me--it's still an obsession' :)

Make sure your precious white wives don't hear about the beautiful black women you devote all your time and energy to the second she leaves your side. We'll keep that dirty little secret between us ;)

Alex Williams said...

The reason that many black people don't attend Reaissance Faires is because of the very common misonceptions about what various African civilizations were like during the time.

The overpopulation, famine, political instability, and poverty that is commonly associated with western Africa today didn't exist in those times and are largely a result of things that happened AFTER Europeans arrived in mass (not that it's all the European's fault either).

West Africa wasn't ALWAYS like that.

And that's not even getting into other region of Africa, because Zulu, Etheopians, Swahili, etc actually have very little to with West Africa and are other matters entirely.

Which is sad, because not many people manage to learn the fact that between 800's and 1500's, West Africa had many prosperous civilizations. They engaged in trade with the Middle East, North Africa, and to a lesser extent, Southern Europe and were major sources of gold, salt, ivory, and other goods.

And these were far from our stereotypical depiction of stone age tribesmen living in jungles. They were empires with cities, monuments, schools, and places of worhip- many of which still stand today. They had governments, art, music, and just as many different kinds of food as anywhere else in the world. They worked steel and made jewelry of precious gems.

Many were Muslim- and not the radical Wahabbi Islam commonly associated with modern extremists- but practitioners of Sufi Islam, which is more moderate, focuses on personal spiritual devlopment, and is generally far more tolerant of other faiths to the point where it was (and still is) commonly combined with traditional animist beliefs.

The Empires of Ghana, Songhai, and Mali rose to their peak during this period lasting over half a millennium.

It wasn't some idealistic paradise. It wasn't some backwater shithole either. No more than anywhere else in the world.

Many people are surprised to learn much of this. When they think of any black African history or culture being presented in a positive light, they imagine it coming from some militant intellectual with an Afro-centric/Anti-white agenda. They're afraid that when they start reading, they'll find something far more sobering.

But all that is BS, and there's plenty of interesting stuff available for anyone willing to look.

Anonymous said...

To author of this blog. I do not know how you sleep at night. I am so disgusted by you. I am an educated white person with a doctorate and a vast knowledge of the history of this world. Let me guess. You are just plain racist with too much time on his/her hands. Not married, fat, unattractive, weird with bunch of complexes. You target and bring a certain group of people down to feel better about your miserable self. What a freaking sociopath you are. First time in my life.. I truly wish you all the worst, you are a hateful looser. Anytime something bad happens to you or anyone you care about (which I doubt you have anyone), it's well deserved. Karma and hate will burn you in hell. You are a sorry sorry waste of a human. Get off your fat ass and do something good for the mankind instead of spreading your hate. But it's all coming for you. I am absolutely positive that life has already punished you enough :) That is why you write this stupid ignorant shit. Good luck. P.S. I bet you will not publish this one, coward.