Friday, July 13, 2012

It is wise to study the ways of ones adversary

A USA Today story from 2008 makes clear that racial loyalty to Mein Obama trumped political loyalty for so-called “Black conservatives”:
You don't speak Russian... 
J.C. Watts, a former Oklahoma congressman who once was part of the Republican House leadership, said he is thinking of voting for Obama. Watts said he is still a Republican, but he criticizes his party for neglecting the black community. Black Republicans, he said, have to concede that while they might not agree with Democrats on issues, at least that party reaches out to them.
It was, of course, Mr. Watts whose insistence on Republicans targeting the Black vote that caused the GOP to abandon targeting the dismantling of affirmative action in the 1990s.

Colin Powell, who was once considered to be the front-runner to break the White House color-barrier, also endorsed Mein Obama in 2008:

Former Secretary of State Colin Powell endorsed Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., for president on Sunday, criticizing his own Republican Party for what he called its narrow focus on irrelevant personal attacks over a serious approach to challenges he called unprecedented.

But it was the highest ranking Black female ever in American government who nailed home the concept of “Mein Obama,” saying in 2008:

An emotional Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice reveled Wednesday in Barack Obama's election, calling it an "extraordinary step forward" for the nation.
A child of the segregated deep South who became the highest-ranking African-American woman ever in American government and was once considered a potential Republican presidential nominee, Rice called the Democratic president-elect "inspirational" and said his victory was proof of America's promise. 
"This was an exercise in American democracy of which Americans across the political spectrum are justifiably proud," she said. 
"As an African-American, I'm especially proud," said Rice, her eyes glistening with emotion, "because this is a country that's been through a long journey, in terms of overcoming wounds and making race" less of a factor in life. "That work is not done, but yesterday was obviously an extraordinary step forward."

Let’s be honest: if we were working to “overcome wounds and make race less of factor in life,” should Rice really have been shedding tears over Mein Obama’s election?

Or does the fact she cried over his election completely undermine her statement?

Well, courtesy of the Black-and-white Drudge Report, rumors are now swirling that Rice is being seriously considered as Mitt Romney’s Vice Presidential nominee.

One episode from Rice’s past should completely disqualify her from any government service, let alone being Romney’s VP candidate, but few dare bring it up.

We will.

Here’s how the New York Times described the incident, which occurred on April 20, 2005, courtesy of a Russian radio interview:
Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice offered reassurances on Wednesday to President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia and to listeners of a popular Moscow radio station that the United States would not supplant Russia's influence in its neighborhood despite growing American friendship with other countries in the region. 
Ms. Rice bantered occasionally with Mr. Venediktov in Russian, which she has studied, but she apologized for speaking largely in English, saying she felt too intimidated by Russian grammar to feel comfortable speaking Russian for the whole interview.
Why is this important? Because it has long been asserted that Rice speaks fluent Russian (though she rarely does in a public setting, especially when conversing with Russians), though this radio interview where she was unable to speak basic Russian  - as reported by Daily Kos – should have sunk the Chevron’s carefully manicured image of the SS Condoleezza Rice faster than K19:

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice tried out her rusty Russian in a Moscow radio interview Wednesday, only to get caught out by a question on whether she might run for president. 
"Da (Yes)," Rice answered in Russian, before realizing her misunderstanding and hastily adding "Nyet" (No) -- seven times. 
"It's too complicated to answer!" Rice, in Russia to meet President Vladimir Putin, started out in English. "It is an opportunity for me to come back to Russia, a place I love very much. I love the culture and the language."She then switched into Russian, but quickly hit trouble. 
Apparently meaning to say that she would like to do her next interview in the language of her host, she chose a verb that sounded more like "to earn money" than the Russian for "to do."

Hilarious. Absolutely hilarious. And yet, Conservatism Inc. believes in peddling Rice as a virtuous image of Connected Capitalism (she sat on the boards of Chevron, Hewlett-Packard, and the Transamerica Corporation in the 1990s, a shining example of affirmative action in… action), worthy of helping the GOP supplant Mein Obama – someone Rice shed tears over, in a non-racial manner.

Heading to Pravda, we get this hilarious editorial from 2005 about Rice and her, ahem, intelligence:

How did Condy get appointed as Secretary of State and labelled a Russian expert? Could it be that she told President Bush that she was an expert in rushin' around and he made her his "Rushin' expert"? 
Asked whether she would run for President at the next election on Ekho Moskvy Radio programme, Condoleezza Rice answered Da! Nyet! Nyet! Nyet! Nyet! Nyet! Nyet! Nyet! Not bad for someone who is quoted frequently by the Western press as being a fluent Russian speaker and a Russian expert, although she has never lived in the country. 
Before admitting to this schoolgirl's question that is was difficult to speak Russian, she had already made a fool of herself on Tuesday, when she declared that the Kremlin's grip on the media is "very worrying." The question is, what grip? 
For the information of Condoleezza Rice, who despite being Secretary of State of her country, continues to demonstrate an ignorance of world affairs at a shockingly consistent level, the notion that the Kremlin exerts a grip on the media is a fairy tale invented in the gardens of Washington. As correspondent of the English version of Pravda.Ru, director and chief editor of the Portuguese version and collaborator for three other Russian publications, two of these being official media organs, I have frequently asked for guidelines from the Kremlin on what line to follow. 
The answer: "We are afraid we cannot give you any guidelines as you request. You will have to write the truth, after checking your sources, obviously", or words to this effect every time the question is posed.

In Hunt for Red October, there’s an invaluable exchange of dialogue between the Americans and Russians, that underscores the importance of SBPDL:

Capt. Bart Mancuso: What's so funny? 
Jack Ryan: Ah, the Captain seems to think you're some kind of... cowboy. 
Captain Ramius: [in Russian] You speak Russian. 
Jack Ryan: [in Russian] A little. It is wise to study the ways of ones adversary. Don't you think? 
Captain Ramius: [in English] It is.


138 comments:

Anonymous said...

Team Romney is proving they are shills throwing this election for Obama.

This moron Romney has ducked every opportunity to shred Obama.

Romney has proven by his actions he is unfit for office and would be no better than Obama.

What in the hell does Romney believe in or stand for anyway?

From now until election day Romney will continue to do his best to drive away the base most likely to support him, if only he would throw so much as a few crumbs their way he might have some hope; we won't.

A vote for Romney simply to get rid of Obama will be exactly what that sentiment did in 2008 to get Obama in the first place.

It's guaranteed that if by some miracle Romney does win he will do nothing to change the course we are on and will absolutely work double time to sell out whites in every way in favor of hoping to secure a few mythical minority votes for team GOP later.

The republicans winning over minorities, no matter what they for them, is about as likely to occur as winning 50 royal flushes in a row in a poker tournament.

Romney has sure flushed us away and any hope for restoring America in any way.

Game Over

Anonymous said...

If Mitt picks Condi he is throwing the Election plain & simple.

Anonymous said...

Take a look at the poll on Drudge Report, 'SHOULD ROMNEY PICK CONDOLEEZZA RICE FOR VP?'. Right now 64.74% (246,511 votes) say YES.

Considering that the vast majority of Drudge's readers are white conservatives, this is extremely pathetic.

As Paul has pointed out here, 'Condi' is neither particularly intelligent, skilled, or conservative, yet she is black, and that is apparently enough for naive white 'conservatives' to rally around her as with previous affirmative-action faux-conservatives like JC Watts, Colin Powell, and of course the laughable womanizer Herman Cain.

Most white conservatives know at some level that racial egalitarianism is a myth, but they so desperately want to believe. They keep telling themselves that blacks act the way they do because of Democrats or liberals who have fooled blacks and destroyed their communities. If only the great black conservative messiah would come along, blacks would wake up, reject liberals, and become productive members of society.

This will never happen of course, but it seems conservatives would prefer to hold onto this illusion, rather than face the harsh reality of BRA.

10mm AUTO said...

Slightly Of Thread. *Breaking News*

Speaking of negroids in high Office, the Emperor Barack, First Imam of the North American Continent and Lord High negro In Charge has issued an Executive order wiping away all work requirements in Welfare, effectively gutting the Welfare Reform Act.

Woosh! Stroke of a Pen. Each one of these actions sets up the next outrage, expands his power a little more and firms up his base.

We are in Serious trouble.

Whiskey said...

Condi Rice is being pushed by Bill Kristol. The base hates her and her ties to GWB are a problem. Romney has already told Murdoch to his face "NO" on Hispandering, specifically Amnesty and Open Borders, so I am disinclined to believe that. From what I gather, Romney cited polling that showed the gain from Hispandering outweighed by the cost to White voters in Swing States.

The game is White voters in Swing States, the "good" thing about Romney is that he is a numbers technocrat guy, this is doubtless a trial balloon by Kristol that is likely to backfire. The only group that would be swayed by this is White unmarried women who love Obama the Dream Alpha Male Black guy like chocolate Haagen-Dasz ice cream. And the cost would be blue collar White guys and women.

But if you've read Derbyshire's VDARE column today, the desire to believe in absolute equality of human beings in all areas of intelligence and ability is easy to understand. Its utopian, very Christian (if all are equal before God, then all are equal in other areas) and provides an easy dose of status-markers in a mass-market society and Steve Sailers Nice White Lady (and Man) syndrome (tm Steve Sailer).

After all, if people accepted scientific evidence of genetic diversity, they'd understand that no, Black people will always dominate sports that don't require massive investment in skills, or endurance plus skills (hardly any Black bicycle racers at all in the Tour de France -- I have not seen any in NBCSports coverage). And Black people will be incredibly absent in cognitive areas, such as math, science, etc. No matter, how much Obama's Dept of Education provides quotas on White Guys in Math and Science education. Black people will only be scientists, computer experts, and mathematicians on TV and in movies (played no doubt by Morgan Freeman).

People want to believe in this because the alternative is that Black people (and to a lesser but considerable extent Hispanics) will require massive transfers of wealth from Whites just to maintain a middle or working class life. Being unable to create wealth on their own, they will require ever greater money from Whites. People want to believe in a universal brotherhood of man (Malcolm X even gravitated towards that after his pilgrimage to Mecca, for which he was murdered by followers of Elijah Muhammed) because it provides a spiritual peace and calmness. Like a mother's touch and voice.

No one wants the ugly reality of racial identity and self-interest even among "Conservative" Blacks. That is too ugly and harsh, objective look at the actual, not idealized, human nature. Any more than most Western men will consider the actual behavior and desires of Western (and really, all) women. Instead preferring pseudo-Victorian pedestals (or the reverse, condemnation as "whores") of most women.

Bottom line, people would rather feel (because it is emotionally satisfying) than think because the latter requires too much intellectual horsepower and can be often pessimistic.

Willfred Tiberius Fergeson said...

What isn't widely known is how much of a joke congoleeza is to Russians.

They think it is silly that she tries to speak Russian.

Russian isn't hard. I learned it in elementary school, just never used it, so I have since forgotten most.
Unfortunately, in So-Cal, spanglish is a slight necessity. Goes withthe territory ...

Dissident said...

Comrade Condoleeza, you've done your job well. You and the other fellow travelers have been indespensible in helping us overthrow the Capitalist society. We are forever indebted to you for your service to world Socialism.

Now Comrade put your back against the wall and take your bullet like a man.

Zenster said...

Watts said he is still a Republican, but he criticizes his party for neglecting the black community.

Perish the effing thought that Watts might direct a scintilla of that criticism towards Mein Obama who, during his brief tenure in office, has almost single-handedly wiped out the Black "middle class".

Needless to say (then why say it?), BHO has also set back race relations far beyond what even flagrant bigots like LBJ or Nixon ever even dreamed of. Since Blacks are capable of deluding themselves that they hold the upper hand, all of this goes unmentioned, if not unnoticed.

An emotional Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice reveled Wednesday in Barack Obama's election, calling it an "extraordinary step forward" for the nation.

If by "forward", Rice means this nation's runaway careening towards the precipice of total economic meltdown, then she could not be more correct. Mein Obama's administration may well go down as the most corrupt ever in America's history. Especially so if political or racial bias and influence peddling are included in that equation.

Zenster said...

Anon (7/13 10:10 AM): Take a look at the poll on Drudge Report, 'SHOULD ROMNEY PICK CONDOLEEZZA RICE FOR VP?'. Right now 64.74% (246,511 votes) say YES.

Considering that the vast majority of Drudge's readers are white conservatives, this is extremely pathetic.


The word "pathetic" doesn't even begin to encompass the degree of moral, ethical and political abdication borne out by such a statistic. At a time where the GOP and Conservatism have become diametric opposites, it is increasingly apparent that even among Conservatives there is a devastating lack of ideological cohesion.

Perhaps more than any other issue, Race Realism is the ultimate delimiter for where neo-conservatism or politically correct conservatism leaves off and actual Conservative political awareness begins. If this is indeed the case, and it certainly appears to be so, then it bodes exceptionally unwell for the future of White America.

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]Let’s be honest: if we were working to “overcome wounds and make race less of factor in life,” should Rice really have been shedding tears over Mein Obama’s election?[/quote]

Dear Kind White Folks Who Are Watching Black Folks:

Please afford me, a self-proclaimed Black CONSERVATOR to give you some insight to that which is puzzling you about my "Right Of Center Melinated People".

What you are seeing are people who have not thought through their beliefs.

FOR ME - I believe that emotional attachment to POLITICS has been the worst thing to ever happen to Black people since you kind White folks released us from Chattel Slavery.

I ALSO believe that the worst thing and the most significant danger for ALL AMERICANS is the destruction of FEDERALISM as the central government is allowed to become the "High Stakes Game Of Opportunity".

For ME - I make the case that what is APPEALING to Black people of our prevailing consciousness should never be mistaken for WHAT IS IN OUR BEST INTERESTS.

I registered "None Of The Above" for the office of President in 2008 and will do the same in 2012.
In as much as I am studying Black people for my "Longitudinal Study" I do not want to attach my hook to anyone.

You are inspecting "Black Conservatives" for LOYALTY when you can't bring yourself to make the case that THE REPUBLICAN has been DISLOYAL to THE LONG TERM FISCAL AND CULTURAL integrity of this nation. The more the central government is forced to generate fiat money - the more the system dependents on it to retain a standard of living that the PERIPHERY is no longer able to generate per its productive ends - the entire system moves closer to collapse.

The "Black Conservative" versus "Black Republican" are not always synonymous.

Just as my dear friend Mr Kersey has noticed - as Black people move into Fayette County Georgia - they tacitly admit that they prefer A CONSERVATIVE environment.

They keep voting DEMOCRAT because of the propaganda that is latent within the Black community which is fueled by your White Progressive enemies (See MSNBC, NY Times, WaPost, etc) which promotes the RACISM of the Conservative. (Many of your topics on this blog do little to dispel this notion).

Fear not though - I am a "Good Black guy" - who has decades of experience in having intellectual discussions with White people per my employment experiences. I don't fear you.

The best thing that YOU kind White Conservatives could do to reduce the chances that a "Black Republican" would "STAB YOU IN THE BACK", sticking to THEIR RACE over their PARTY loyalties is to begin to accept that BLACK PEOPLE ARE, in fact discrete individuals who have our own life experiences and motivations.

I also don't have respect for the "Black Fox News financial analyst" who said he voted for Obama for historical purposes but is now heard running down the policies that he voted into office. What we have is a gap between the ACTIONS of a particular person and the CONSEQUENCES as represented in his life.

While I see this from my "racial" vantage point - it is also the case that the White Progressives that you fight against are also acting against their long term interests. While YOU and your friends at Vdare might conclude that their fatal mistake is "working with the Negroes and Hispanics" - the more accurate observation is that they are loading up the CENTRAL GOVERNMENT with a burden that it will not ultimately be able to carry.

Again - the best thing that you Kind White folks can do is to be more clear in your conversations. THE INTEGRITY OF THE SYSTEMS OF GOVERNANCE OF THE UNITED STATES is important for ALL OF US. Hatred and racism projected in your message merely gives your enemy (the White Progressive) another channel to spew their propaganda. (See Nancy Pelosi on Romney's speech at the NAACP)

Anonymous said...

Whites must take back our country. We have already reached the point of no return. We have nothing to lose that Whites have not already lost, except our lives.
Forget about blacks. Blacks never forget that they are black and Whites are not. Blacks first loyalty lies with other blacks.
What did Rice ever do as SOS. Nothing. If she had not of been black you wouldn't even know that she was part of the lying Bush administration.
Romney must pick an intelligent White man or forget the US presidency.

YIH said...

Am I surprised about this? NO, of course not silly!
The adreno-cons have been her cheering section since '05 . The same idiots that think Palin would have been a good VP or Prez because they wanted to bang her!
Paul just scratched the surface
plenty more where those likely came from.
Palin told a TV interviewer, and this is a direct quote: “I think that Condoleezza Rice would be a great vice president.”
Will Palin’s endorsement of Rice finally put the kabosh on the notion that Palin is any kind of conservative?
Yup, Sarah ''what magazines did I read? All of them!'' Palin. A sharp one she be.
But soon enough I'll be seeing this in Whackopedia:
Romney has worked part-time for a Boston investment firm, and engaged in a career of writing, consulting, public speaking, and television appearances. This has included becoming a television commercial spokesman for such products as Viagra, Visa, Dunkin' Donuts and Pepsi-Cola (with Britney Spears).

Californian said...

Watts said he is still a Republican, but he criticizes his party for neglecting the black community.


This is an interesting statement. Let's put aside the fact that the Republican Party back in the 19th century promoted both Abolition and Reconstruction. And that the Democrats were seen as the party of segregation in the South until the mid-20th century.

What does this "neglect" to which Mr Watts refers consist of? What programs are Republicans making available to whites that are not being made available to blacks? What programs would he recommend that the Republicans push which would not neglect the black community? (And dare I ask, who would pay for them, and how would such programs reduce the scope of Big Government as Republicans promise?)

Also, what is meant by the "black community?" Does having the proverbial one-drop-of-blood qualify one as a black, and thus a beneficiary? And do I have to point out that race-is-just-a-construct, so how can there be a "black community?" Or all that jazz about content-of-character-and-not-color-of-skin?

I suppose you can say that it's all so much pork barrel rhetoric. But realistically speaking, is there ever going to be any formula which will give Republicans, much less conservatives, a sizable black vote--other than total capitulation?

Lucas Evans said...

There is no point in even discussing political matters. Does anyone here really believe the current political and social situation can be salvaged?

I hope Romney wins because I truly believe black will feel "dissed" and riot. The more the general public sees TNB, the better for us. Otherwise, he cannot fix the economy, stop immigration, or repair racial issues. These issues will boil over even under a white president.

I hope Obama wins because he is too stupid to even attempt to hide his anti-white agenda and totalitarian intentions. He has done more for us than anyone else has in 50 years. In every single news article for a black-white crime someone posts "He looks like Obama's son!" His overconfidence, corruption, king-like lifestyle, sheer incompetence, and inability to connect to taxpayers are good for us.

Depending on how you look at it, this election is win-win or lose-lose.

Sheila said...

Yes, I remember reading all about Condi years ago, before W put her in his administration. Funny that this "expert" couldn't answer a single question in Russian; I spoke it quite comfortably and intelligibly (if ungrammatically) the year I spent there.

Condi the "conservative Republican" Rice is the one who said that America had a birth defect due to slavery. She maintained that blacks and Whites founded this nation together. You know, Crispus Attucks actually wrote the Constitution, not James Madison.

I was perusing Gateway Pundit, a tea-party repuke site, and after about 30 comments (of 128 at the time) I couldn't take any more. Those not ecstatic about Rice were, instead, proposing Rubio, Jindal, Haley, Sowell, Williams, and West. These are today's "conservative" voters - they'll pin their hopes on anyone who's not a White male, because their desire to prove they're not racists is greater than their love for their children or their desire to preserve their country.

I'm with H. L. Mencken: "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it, good and hard."

Anonymous said...

Ex New Yorker here....It does not matter which PIMP makes it to the Whore House in Washington. Nothing will change. All these political pimps have been bought and paid for and the first thing they learn is YOU DON'T BITE THE HAND THAT FEEDS YOU. They do not care about you or the country.
Stop buying into that "left wing, right wing" bullshit. It is all a game. STOP BELIEVING IN THE LIE. They are all actors on a stage playing out the role they have been paid to play. If you buy into the bullshit then you are as bad as they are. IT'S ALL A LIE. I wouldn't hire one of these pigs to mow my lawn, so I sure wouldn't waste my time voting for them to run my country. THEY ARE ALL SCUM.

Zenster said...

Whiskey: No one wants the ugly reality of racial identity and self-interest even among "Conservative" Blacks.

To which I can only reply with the age old maxim:

BETTER THE UGLY TRUTH THAN A BEAUTIFUL LIE.

And, so far, the "beautiful lie" is still leading by a few lengths as we pass the third post. It can only be supposed that when their "beautiful lie" finally bites DWLs that have drawn to their collective breast, maybe then they will come around if the disillusionment doesn't irreparably shatter their fragile little psyches.

That is too ugly and harsh, objective look at the actual, not idealized, human nature.

All of which is the butcher's bill for ignoring reality and clinging to their idea that mankind's perfection can be legislated.

Bottom line, people would rather feel (because it is emotionally satisfying) than think because the latter requires too much intellectual horsepower and can be often pessimistic.

I would argue that it is not so much a "pessimistic" outlook but one with a healthy degree of cynicism. However, neither have much place amid the Magical Thinking™ that so many Liberals embrace, as even a minute dose of unvarnished reality usually sends them scurrying into the shadows.

Robert S. Oculus III said...

Guys: This is just Romney playing to the more intelligent side of the White Hipster Douchebag (WHD) population. These kids realize what a disaster El Negro Grande has been, but dare not vote against him. After all, racism is the ultimate crime, and disloyalty to The First African-American President is prima facie racist. By picking a Negress as a running mate, he gives the WHDs the perfect "out": black and female trumps black and male. A Rice/Romney ticket lets them cast a vote for (perceived) sanity without giving up either their self-imagined status as anti-racist crusaders or their pro-diversity Facebook cred. It's actually a smart move.

He'll lose anyway, of course.

***

Dear "Constructive Feedback":

Thank you for your comment. However, if you don't mind some real "constructive feedback": your grammar is atrocious.

Pretending to intellect just makes one look stupid. If you like, I can mark up your last post (that is, I can point out and correct your errors, e.g., those of capitalization) and send it to you privately. I think you will find that we white people will take your ideas more seriously if you express them in English.

Dissident said...

CF says that the “white progressive” is our enemy and who could argue with that?

He says that we “conservatives” need to get hip to the tricks of the fraudsters that have hijacked government. Once again, I can’t argue.

Feedback is reiterating what many have said here-ad infinitum, but CF is barking up the wrong tree. CF’s time would be better spent in trying to sway his racial kinsmen over to his brand of conservatism, than to try and reform a bunch of SBPDL Racists™ like us. I suppose that Feedback comes here because he knows that he is seen as an Uncle Tom within his own ranks? Unfortunately blacks and conservatism go together like oil and water.

CF is a man without a country: This is something we both have in common.

Bemused stare said...

Anonymous said...

Ex New Yorker here....It does not matter which PIMP makes it to the Whore House in Washington. Nothing will change. All these political pimps have been bought and paid for and the first thing they learn is YOU DON'T BITE THE HAND THAT FEEDS YOU. They do not care about you or the country.
Stop buying into that "left wing, right wing" bullshit. It is all a game. STOP BELIEVING IN THE LIE. They are all actors on a stage playing out the role they have been paid to play. If you buy into the bullshit then you are as bad as they are. IT'S ALL A LIE. I wouldn't hire one of these pigs to mow my lawn, so I sure wouldn't waste my time voting for them to run my country. THEY ARE ALL SCUM.

July 13, 2012 12:22 PM


I am so glad somebody "gets it". Best thing to do is shitcan the whole rotten thing.

Mr. Rational said...

Unfortunately blacks and conservatism go together like oil and water.

I suggest to you that conservatism isn't to water as oil is, but metallic sodium:  violently attacked and ultimately dissolved in an explosive reaction.

Anonymous said...

(N.GA)-Like I said before....Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc’-ra-cy) – a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers.

So CAL Snowman said...

OF COURSE both political parties are on the SAME TEAM, AGAINST US. Come on, we all know this. Here is a wonderful picture that perfectly illustrates the political parties in the United States - Vote All You Want, The Flight Plan Doesn't Change. I will vote Romeny because I personally just want to see the blacks riot and chimp out when Obungles loses. Like NOT voting is going to change anything, they'll just stuff the ballot box and make up some numbers, you know just like they do EVERY FUCKING ELECTION.

Anonymous said...

The claims of Rice being fluent in Russian were just the usual exaggeration of any black's capabilities, trying to make them out as near geniuses. Less there than advertised, and repeated endlessly by now.
Most of these Rupub so-called "conservatives" are just the opposite of what most people want. They stand with the top 1% on all financial matters yet buy into some cheap version of all races being equal, therefore push race-mixing and third world immigration. Nothing there for the mass of white citizens.

Anonymous said...

PK, I'm glad you wrote about Watts. I remember Watts and Gingrich stopping any attempts to roll back affirmative action. I agree with the black poster about Charles Payne. He rails against Obama daily, but I remember Payne saying that he voted for Obama. More proof that skin color trumps all. Off-topic, Obama will be trying to end welfare-to-work rules. I never bought it anyway. They get shuffled from program to program for years. Most of them are probably on SSI now. I don't think Clinton would have signed the bill without some assurances that welfare wouldn't lead to work, but would lead to SSI instead.

Anonymous said...

This "story" was leaked just to misdirect the media, and keep team Obama guessing.

Romney is not going to pick Rice, and anyone with an ounce of common sense knows this.

Frankly, I'm amazed that some of you are taking this story seriously...

Unreconstructed Confederate said...

The framers of the constitution
were concerned with securing the
blessings of liberty to themselves
and to THEIR posterity. They were
not concerned about the posterity
of the rest of the human race.
Romney should select, for VP, a
white, over-50 male Protestant. I
would suggest Governor McDonnell
of Virginia.
Meanwhile, it is time to
return to the Christianity that
was practiced by the original
settlers of America. This must
annul and replace the watered-down
pseudo-Christianity which has,
according to the prophecy of the
first few verses of the epistle
of Jude, been secretly brought in to
an unsuspecting body of Christians
by those who "crept in", all the
while managing to keep their
infiltration a secret. But the
time has come when all hidden
things will be made manifest--see
Matthew 10:26-28.
One key matter which will be
revealed is the identity of those
serpents who did the "creeping"
referred to above.
The will be rooted out and
bundled together for eternal
destruction. (See Matthew 13:30-
43--the parable of the wheat and
the tares.)

Anonymous said...

The capabilities of today's educated blacks must never be questioned. Whenever they show us how weak their skills actually are, we must avert our eyes, pretend not to notice, and continue to protect the myth of equality.

- Jay P.

Anonymous said...

You can ask any newspaper reporter, Hollywood actor or university professor: Condi is absolutely brillant. She almost single-handedly saved Bush and the Nation during her time in Washington, preventing America from entering into ruinous wars and an economic meltdown.

She is much like Obama in brilliantosity. During Obama's tenure as a Distinguised Professor of Constitutional Lawisprudence at the U. of Chicago, the faculty from all the other departments would come sit at his feet to learn. They virtually filled the Great Lecture Hall squeezing against the walls and sitting on the ground between the seats -- straining to catch every amazing word from the Great Helmsman. Obama's erudite lectures revolutionized that mediocre college, transforming it into the world-class Uinversity it is today. In the evenings, Obama organized communities, wrote great works of fiction, taught interprative dance to the homeless and helped small orphaned animals learn to walk.

Anonymous said...

Tired old cliches hold much truth, and when talking about Negro sentiment and attitude, nothing is truer than "Blood is thicker than water."

Anonymous said...

I am become black destroyer of worlds.

Anonymous said...

Everyone needs to go on Drudge and vote "no" on that poll he's got running.

Mr. Rational said...

Meanwhile, it is time to return to the Christianity that was practiced by the original settlers of America.

There's a problem with that:  it doesn't work any more.  Do you recall "you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" (John 8:32)?  We know enough truth that the original Christianity is not tenable any more.

Knowledge has eaten many of those old roots which held our ancestors in their place and told them who and what they were.  This is both a curse and a blessing; we have the blessing of more possibilities of what to do and be, and we have the curse of having to decide and decide rightly.

James Briggs AKA Playing Roots Backwards said...

Do you actually expect anybody with Congoleeza's complexion to speak fluent anything?

Anonymous said...

This will not change. In fact, it is, as of now, becoming exponentially worse. As long as we have a political system in which people will vote for candidates who will, or at least promise to, give people what they want, not what the country needs, government will become larger along with debt.

Face it. Noone wants to hear the sobering truth. Continually increasing spending for what have come to be percieved as entitlements is not sustainable.

Given the choice on election day between voting for the guy who promises you more and more or the one who tells the truth (bigger government requires more tax money, our economy is based on a ponzi scheme and without what Ron Paul called "sharp corrections" is doomed) is no choice at all.

The truth hurts and neither of our "choices" will gain votes to become POTUS by telling it. Understand this: these candidates don't give a damn about any of us nor about the constitution that is supposed to keep these parasites in check. The MSM will paint anyone who even suggests following the guidelines set forth by our forefathers as an extremist, a lunatic, a fossil or, worst of all, a racist. (Unelectable was my favorite) The farther we stray from these ancient documents, the worse it gets.

Anyway, since citizens will vote for the most temporarily painless course, our dollars become worth less daily and the proverbial can gets kicked further down the road. Face it. No candidate who would make true efforts to repair the damage done will not even be nominated, much less elected.

We are made to think we have choices. We don't. It doesn't matter which puppet is put in place. The elitists will get it all and move on to the next victims. It's not race, religion, politics nor any of the other dividing issues with which we are bombarded that matter. It's money. That's all.
One world government is inevitable because that is the plan and noone who would stand in the way will be allowed to be deemed "electable." Those who control the MSM control the minds of the sheeple.

Anonymous said...

excellent post. it just shows there is no possible way that a black can be more qualified for any position than a white man. no matter what certification experience or education he or she has it is all affrimitive action. there is no way a black person could actually earn there way to high positions it is all given to them on a silver plate by white liberal do gooders and when they get to the top they make mistakes like normal human beings do. HOW DARE THEY!!! how dare she not earn her way to top postions like an intelligent articulate women like Sarah Palin. a women who really deserves to be vice president. shes a great intellectual who has real experience with Russia because "she can see it from her house". remember there is no possible way an African American could be qualified to do anything. Its all affrimitive action. also how dare they not blindly agree with mainstream conservative consensus about everything. since they dont do that and have an ability to think on their own theyre not really republicans.

Jay Santos said...

Anonymous said...
excellent post. it just shows there is no possible way that a black can be more qualified for any position than a white man. no matter what certification experience or education he or she has it is all affrimitive action. there is no way a black person could actually earn there way to high positions it is all given to them on a silver plate by white liberal do gooders and when they get to the top they make mistakes like normal human beings do. HOW DARE THEY!!! how dare she not earn her way to top postions like an intelligent articulate women like Sarah Palin. a women who really deserves to be vice president. shes a great intellectual who has real experience with Russia because "she can see it from her house". remember there is no possible way an African American could be qualified to do anything. Its all affrimitive action.


Right, wonderful work on your post. You libtards are so tedious.

Aside from my comments on the moron above, Romney, in an overlooked but disturbing pronouncement at his NAACP speech, stated his support for "education vouchers". As has been pointed out here before, "education vouchers" are the Section 8 of the education industry. In a fit of compassion, Trayvon Jr. will be seated next to your kid at whatever private school you established to get the hell away from Trayvon.

I'll vote for Romney, I have no choice, but his principles are ultimately not in our best interests.

So CAL Snowman said...

Sort of OT - Meet The Ruling Faces Of Evil

If you guys want to know WHO the evil bastards are that are controlling our world this is a good place to start (for some reason they are ALL REALLY REALLY UGLY). And yes Cunnilingus Rice is included!

danaigh said...

Most articles on this site are interesting because they highlight facts regarding race issues that the MSM does it's best to hide or deny.

However this factoid, that for blacks 'race' trumps all else is like reporting, with alarm that 'water is wet'. Blacks are race conscious and have no qualms about shedding the 'race neutral' mask? Well DUH! You could have fooled me except for the fact that 95% voted for 'O'.

Anyway, I just thought a little cooling down of the fervor was in order. Not a criticism but a 'what else is new' comment. PK finds this a suitable topic so I defer to his judgement of course. And on that note what seems obvious to some is new to others.

Slightly OT thought; I would love to see 80% or more of the white vote go for Obama's opponent, mostly just the hear the howls of rage via MSM et. al.

DailyKenn.com said...

Even Allen Keyes seems to think Obama is the lesser of two evils.

http://www.wnd.com/2012/07/a-choice-between-satan-and-beelzebub/

Anonymous said...

Not even a good attempt you fraud. Your sarcasm is deficient. @ anon 8:26 pm

Lex32 said...

Hug your children. Kiss them & tell them you love them. Spend time with them & turn of the effing idiot box. Better yet cancel your cable.

I gave my four year old a period of instruction today on how to properly grip a rifle from the prone position & sight in on a target.

FOUR years old.

By five or six he will be shooting 600-1000yds. This is just ONE skill out of hundreds I am passing on to my beloved offspring... my son who carries my last name with nothing but praise, pride & encouragement from my wife.

What have you done today to prepare for what is coming?

Semper Fi in Mississippi

Discard said...

Anon at 8:26 PM: Your Sarah Palin diatribe is a straw man argument. Have any commenters here praised Palin? But since you bring it up, the difference between Sarah Palin and Condoleeza Rice is that nobody with any sense has ever argued that Palin was brilliant. This post merely points out that Rice, despite her claims, is not even conversant in Russian, let alone fluent. That's not a mistake, that's lying. And as is typical of affirmative action beneficiaries, she's not nearly as capable as claimed.

AnalogMan said...

Are Americans really so stupid that they would accept a black woman candiadte for VP just for yet another chance to "make history"? Apparently, judging by the Drudge poll.

Can you imagine this clueless token negro "a heartbeat away from the Presidency"? I don't fancy a President Romney's chances for survival.

Americans are strange. On another (allegedly conservative) blog reccently I saw commenters drooling over Mia Love, a Haitian woman recently elected to Congress in Utah; including the "Mia Love for President 2016" idiocy. What is it with this yearning for a black president? I must say, it hasn't been good for us here in South Africa, nor anywhere else in the world, for that matter.

Anonymous said...

Jonesboro Lousiana city council meeting..White female resident tells the diversity in attendance exactly what she thinks of them. This lady has a brass set! This video is going to disappear I fear, unless we can make it viral.

Action starts at around 6:30..

http://youtu.be/ALlS-5A3Dw4

Anonymous said...

Let's stop "reaching out" to the "black community". Let's stop working to "provide" more "access" to things like education and art. Let's stop this nonsense once and for all.

When blacks say they do not have "access" to something, it means that they naturally fail to acquire it when they are free to by law. Their low credit scores make them fail to secure loans and mortgages. Their high credit risk status make them ineligible for credit cards. Their criminality scares good businesses and service companies away from their neighborhoods. Blacks despise art, museums, proper grammar, education, architecture, good music, gardens, sustainability, liberty, freedom, and anything they consider white and European. Let them reject it. Let us embrace it.

Words like "access" are only code language to describe black inferiority, equality of outcome schemes, and an excuse for the demand to transfer more wealth from whites to blacks.

We need to start using truthful language about white superiority. If blacks don't want to live in a world with white supremacy, then they should have their own nation state, where they can try and fail with no white privilege and no racist white intervention. It could be a black world for them, no racist whites telling them to act like whites. Everything they produce would be inferior, but they would never be held up to white standards again.

Anonymous said...

To Anon July 14 5:40 AM...they also don't have access to proper food. I'm tired of hearing about these poor folks living in food deserts. To me, they look like they've been living in food desserts.

Anonymous said...

"excellent post. it just shows there is no possible way that a black can be more qualified for any position than a white man."

Actually, it doesn't show that at all.

"no matter what certification experience or education he or she has it is all affrimitive action."

This is often the case, but not always. BTW, the word is "affirmative". Your poor spelling strongly suggests that you are black.

"there is no way a black person could actually earn there way to high positions"

It is possible. However, because of affirmative action, it is safe to assume that most blacks in position of authority do not meet the standards for qualification.

"it is all given to them on a silver plate by white liberal do gooders"

Yes, Disingenuous White Liberals are the greatest enablers of negro dysfunction.

"and when they get to the top they make mistakes like normal human beings do."

LOL @ "mistakes".
Dishonestly claiming that you are fluent in Russian is not a "mistake". It's "lying".

"HOW DARE THEY!!! how dare she not earn her way to top postions like an intelligent articulate women like Sarah Palin. a women who really deserves to be vice president."

Palin was never a beneficiary of affirmative action. She ran for mayor and was elected. She ran for governor and was elected. No matter how much you hate her, you can't change the fact that her successes are 100% earned, and based on her own merits.

"shes a great intellectual who has real experience with Russia because "she can see it from her house"."

This quote is false, it makes you look stupid, please enlighten yourself.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/palin/seealaska.asp

"remember there is no possible way an African American could be qualified to do anything."

This is largely true, but there are exceptions.

"Its all affrimitive action."

Yes, most black "achievement" is the result of affirmative action.

"also how dare they not blindly agree with mainstream conservative consensus about everything."

Negroes lack the basic intelligence to embrace conservative philosophy. That's why black nations around the world are disease-infested, crime-ridden shit-holes.

"since they dont do that and have an ability to think on their own theyre not really republicans."

Correct.

Lily White said...

@Anonymous: Ah, yes, the old "Conservative X is so stupid, we're going to pretend he/she said something he/she never said in order to prove it" canard. It was Tina Fey on SNL that said, "I can see Russia from my house." Sarah said in an interview that it was possible to see Russia from Alaska. (There are two islands in the Bering Staight - Big Diomede and Little Diomede. The big island is Russian and the small one American. They are about 1.5 miles from each other.) That stunt of putting words into conservatives' mouths in order to "prove" their stupidity has long passed its expiration date.

Anonymous said...

Are Chinese as naive as Americans and Europeans? Apparently so.

California Nationalist said...

What a circus! With each passing day this country becomes ever more ready for a coup d'etat.

My friends in the military (serving and ex):

Are you paying attention?!

10mm AUTO said...

"I am become black destroyer of worlds."

Wonderful! Please join the discussion, Anon. We have quite a few erudite writers here, and those that are perhaps less well equipped in the turn of phrase make up for it in passion or experience!

In this quote you have encapsulated the negro, his violence, his birthrate, his ignorance and his glee to crush civilization, but also Western man's seeming inability to deal with the fact that negroids are not the same subspecies are we are and we keep expecting them to react as we do, to feel outrage as we do, to feel shame. The negroid is like a atomic bomb to the enemy, it destroys its infrastructure, its people, its hopes and dreams, its very civilization in terrible slow vampiric explosion.

Detroit or South Africa are perfect examples. As Paul points out, many of its ruins look like the long aftermath of a nuclear war, but it is just negroids. Further, that quote was used in this movie and was attributed to Oppenheimer. The actual cite is: "Time I am, the great destroyer of the worlds". When Zenster sees this he will add it to his pantheon of race sayings.

Brilliant!

Anonymous said...

Trial junkie here. According to Larry Auster, John Fund says at NRO that there is "zero" chance of Rice being on the ticket. Fund supposedly has it from a major Romney campaign official.

Anonymous said...

"Trial junkie here. According to Larry Auster, John Fund says at NRO that there is "zero" chance of Rice being on the ticket. Fund supposedly has it from a major Romney campaign official."

This Rice-VP story was obviously fake from the get-go.

I'm disappointed at all the unrestrained hysterics here from a group of folks who should know better.

Anonymous White Male said...

I think one thing that has been missed here is what I call the "sports fan's understanding of politics". You hear this a lot on the one-eyed god political shows in which the pimps trot out the "strategy" behind a certain move. This one would be explained as "Republicans are considered the "racist" party. Ergo, we put a negro in the VP slot to show how "cool" we are. This way a black "Queen" can provide some cred against a black "Jack". This is all strategy designed to help our side win the election".

Of course, Whites don't want to have anything to do with blacks, if they can avoid it. White light is a perfect example of this. But, White Conservatives are a bit thin skinned about being called "racist". So, this "strategy" allows them to deflect claims of "racism". "What do you mean, racist? Our VP candidate is black! Why are you Democrats such liars!"

And this actually is how some people view politics. Not as a process to correct legitimate problems and do what is needed without taking our rights away from us, but as a "sporting contest" were our team wins and this is the game plan they use. Yes, most people are stupid.

But, as one of the above posters said, "let's shitcan the lot of them". Well, how do you do that, WITHOUT suggesting things that will be monitored by homeland security? How can what needs to be done be done without violence. Personally, I don't think it can. But, who is going to suggest this on the national stage and what snowball's chance in hell would he have of waking up the sheeple and staying out of a FEMA camp?

We have the numbers. Do we have the will?

Douglas said...

Conservative Inc. is dead or has become liberalism. It's time for the rise of a new right white party.

josh said...

Condi was the brainless boob who didnt see 9/11 coming. Richard Clark talks about how he begged her to study up on AlQeda,but she completely ignored him. How can this jack ass--or anyone from the W administration-- show their face in public,let alone be up for VP??I would think she would crawl away in shame.BTW re black capabilities,remember when Colin Powell became a star everyone blubbered how he spoke Yiddish? Did he know a few phrases or did he actually know the language? Seems odd that a non-jew would study a language that most jews have let slide... And the fact that its a JEWISH dialect was SOOOOOO impressive to the media. (Palins belly crawling obsequiessness toward Israel was greeted with derision.)

YIH said...

@Lily White (and that anon):
I'll be blunt about it, I'm no fan of Sarah Palin. And yes, it's true the ''I can see Russia from my house'' line was concocted by Tina Fay for SNL.
By why did it stick to Palin like glue? The Katie Couric interview. I watched it myself, Couric asked reasonable, straightforward questions, and Palin just babbled.
No comedian or comic writer came up with the ''All of them.'' response to the throwaway ''What magazines do you read?'' question, Palin herself did.
All it would take is a walk down the magazine section of a grocery store to realize how stupid that response was.
The other reason I soured on Palin was repeatedly reading and hearing male writers and talkers practically panting over her.
''She's hot!'' might be a good qualification if you're a guy looking for someone to sleep with but it's usually disastrous for any other role. Even Vice-President, especially as the running mate for someone who due to age and the wear and tear of war is of questionable ability to survive four years as President.
OTOH if Obama had picked her, I wouldn't have minded, she would have been his ''insurance policy''. Just like Biden actually is.

Kylie said...

Anonymouse said, "You can ask any newspaper reporter, Hollywood actor or university professor: Condi..."

Your entire comment is one of the funniest things I've ever read. "Brilliantosity" and "Lawisprudence" were especially good.

I wish you'd pick a handle. Writers as gifted as you are shouldn't post anonymously.

Willfred Tiberius Ferguson said...

Navy SEALs Look To Attract More Minority Recruits

San Diego Area Targeted By New Navy Outreach Campaign

http://www.10news.com/news/31273076/detail.html

"In the past few years, the Navy's various attempts to outreach have led to more candidates, but many candidates have failed to complete SEAL qualification and other training."


Leave comments please. I name drop SBPDL.
Go get 'em boys!

Californian said...

Anonymouse said, "You can ask any newspaper reporter, Hollywood actor or university professor: Condi..."

Your entire comment is one of the funniest things I've ever read. "Brilliantosity" and "Lawisprudence" were especially good.

I wish you'd pick a handle. Writers as gifted as you are shouldn't post anonymously.



Agreed!

Anonymous said...

Reddit.com has a post about race and crime which has created that dialog on race that AG Holder has asked for. Might be worth weighing in on...

http://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/w4m65/til_that_the_us_criminal_justice_system_employs/c5a8vuy

Whiskey said...

Drudge has Rice saying "no thanks" so apparently just some trial balloon.

Romney needs to win over White unmarried women, or at least some of him, to cut down Obama's 2008 70% margin. He needs to go HUNK! and dominant male.

No Jindal, but Rubio. I don't like or trust Rubio, but his effect on White twit women like the FT's Gillian Tett is remarkable -- she was drooling all over him in print today. Like it or not, his not being mostly White but Hispanic and handsome has most White women (who have a big beef against the unsexiness caused by equality with their White male peers) favorably disposed. And yes they really do vote that way.

Anonymous said...

I don't know why, but I'm kinda surprised there's so much consideration about the merits of these bogus candidates here.

The only difference between them is the color of their ties.

The real power behind the throne is unelected and unacknowledged. These candidates mean nothing.

Anonymous said...

A random thought - It's often said by white race realists that much can be explained by blacks' IQ's averaging in the 70 to 85 range.

Maybe so but I've never seen packs of retarded white people of similar IQ's going on relentless, repeated campaigns of rape, assault, murder, and depravity. Clearly, there's a hell of a lot wrong with blacks organically that extends beyond their low IQ's. Blacks are obsessively violent and dangerous in ways that low IQ segments of other races are not.

I'm sure ABC/NBC/CBS/CNN will broadcast extensive reports about this any day now, ha, ha, ha.

kas said...

Constructive Feedback is correct in his assessment that our real troubles lie elsewhere.

Anonymous said...

"No Jindal, but Rubio."

Rubio's parents were not American citizens when he was born, thus he is not a "natural born citizen" under Article II of the Constitution, thus he cannot be President, therefore he cannot be VP either.

(Obama is similarly disqualified from the Presidency because his father was not a citizen at the time of Obama's miraculous birth. But I forget, the Constitution doesn't apply any more and the law is whatever Obama says it is.)

Jindal had one bad TV appearance, but otherwise seems to be a competent, experienced, smart governor. I could take him as VP but I'm sick of "conservatives" rushing to raise every civilized non-white onto the nearest pedestal.

As for those white women, if they really seek to be dominated by an alpha male, perhaps their husbands should handcuff them to a bedpost early morning on election day and keep them there until the polls close.

Anonymous said...

Excellent point.

The brutal cold desolate winters that Whites and Asians had to endure forced them to abandon not only the stupid who were sick and/or injured, but the lazy and ill-behaved as well. It was the only way they could survive.
The mental superiority of Northern peoples includes much more than just superior intelligence.

Anonymous said...

Re Anon at 5.59...I agree but the false candidate syndrome is tenacious. More or less all of the talk radio and all of the mainstream media is concentrated propaganda on the so-called race between liberals and conservatives. Neither R or D party is concerned with the gut issues that motivate SBPDL readers. The USA is a corporate tyranny and has been so for at least a century.

Anonymous said...

Trial junkie here. There's another way Rice, Colin Powell, and George W. Bush had a lot to do with Obama being elected.

Bush made a big deal in the 2000 election of promising to "nominate African-Americans to high poitions." What happened? Over 95% of the blacks voted for Gore. What does Bush do next? He makes Powell Secretary of State and Condi Rice National Security adviser. A few years later Rice is Secretary of State.

So, the Stupid American Public is used to blacks being (sort of) in charge. I believe this helped legitimize the idea of Obama being president.

Bush's policy of pandering to nonwhites while ignoring his own voters was the hallmark of his presidency.

Mr. Clean said...

This highlights something I have always argued... low IQ does not account for the black pathology. If one were to argue that TNB is a result of low IQ, then one would expect similar (simian?) behavior out of a low IQ subset of whites or other race. It doesn't happen. This, I would propose, would prove that TNB is mostly cultural.

Anonymous said... Clearly, there's a hell of a lot wrong with blacks organically that extends beyond their low IQ's.

Anonymous said...

offtopic:

Have you all noticed how 'Black' yahoo is???

gees....black athlete [s] day after day.
And just now....
'Tips on dating, with a black guy next to a brown gal' gees

poopmenot said...

Romney is a professional weasel. Far more intelligence than he lets on. I say that if he chooses Rice as his running mate its because he calculated it to give him better odds at winning: the leftists can't attack her directly. They'll have to find a black hit man as with Anita Hill/Clarence Thomas episode. Even with their best efforts they will be unable to match the quantity and severity of their bashing of Palin.

And a VP is a pretty useless position unless the president is assassinated but if that happens, and she does a terrible job as president, why should Romney care? He would be dead.

YIH said...

@Anon, July 14, 2012 6:34 PM
A random thought - It's often said by white race realists that much can be explained by blacks' IQ's averaging in the 70 to 85 range.

Maybe so but I've never seen packs of retarded white people of similar IQ's going on relentless, repeated campaigns of rape, assault, murder, and depravity. Clearly, there's a hell of a lot wrong with blacks organically that extends beyond their low IQ's. Blacks are obsessively violent and dangerous in ways that low IQ segments of other races are not.

Now that you mention it, you got a point. I have a (whatever euphemism works) ''slow''/''retarded''/ ect. cousin and they are generally pleasant to be around. If you're around such Whites it doesn't take too long to figure out ''not too bright'' but usually quite calm, slow to anger, polite and often aware that they are ''not too bright''.
Blacks OTOH, seem to enjoy their stupidity, ''keepin' it real, yo'' and as far as their penchant for hostility, that's more than adequately documented here.

As ''a shout-out'' to blacks that post here: Please use either Firefox or Chrome, they both have a built-in spellchecker that's easy to use and works quite well.

DailyKenn.com said...

Can't fault J.C. Watts.

Rather, I find fault with multiculturalists who deny the settled-science fact that tribal loyalty is imprinted on our gray matter.

YIH said...

@Anon July 14, 2012 7:26 PM:
I wouldn't mind Jindal as Veep either. I had this discussion at another forum and said ''Hey, he's neither incompetent or corrupt and considering he's Governor of Louisiana, that's pretty damn good!'' and mentioned that when Edwin Edwards was running against David Duke for the job there was a very popular bumper sticker urging support for Edwards (although clearly not produced by his campaign) that read "Vote For the Crook. It's Important."[14][15] . From Whackopedia:
''A colorful, powerful and legendary figure in Louisiana politics, Edwards was long dogged by charges of corruption.

In 2001, he was sentenced to ten years in prison on racketeering charges. Edwards began serving his sentence in October 2002 in Fort Worth, Texas, and was later transferred to the federal facility in Oakdale, Louisiana.''.
The host had to admit ''Well, the bar isn't set all that high for him (Jindal) is it?''.

Anonymous said...

Dear Mr. Clean,

Genes not only influence human IQ, but virtually all aspects of personality, including, risk taking, impulsive behavior, instant gratification, social pathology, criminality, and emotional settings (some people remain on an even keel, whereas others rapidly swing from extremely happy to extremely angry in an instant.

We now know that thes traits vary among races (again, due to genes), the same way that different breeds of dogs tend to have different personalities. That is exactly why you pick different breeds of dogs for hunting, herding, protection, as a family pet.

W74 said...

What does "neglect of the black community" really mean? If it means not giving out handouts then these gentlemen can bugger off.

The very fact that leftists will attack people on racial grounds over what are truly money issues show just how much hope they have for the negro left to it's own devices: not much. Blacks and DWL will therefore continue to advocate handouts and THEY, not us, will use race as their excuse for the redistribution of wealth.

Whosoever defines 'fairness' in this coming decade is going to (for better or worse) determine the fate of this country for the next century.

Anonymous said...

Blacks and whites have essentially entirely different cognitive maps. They measure lower on IQ tests than whites do, and are often or usually not very good at things whites are good at.

There are things they are better at, as any music educator can tell you. My father was a band director and he preferred teaching white kids for behavior, but black kids for musical training. Blacks had better pitch recognition, better understanding of rhythm and generally were much easier to train on brass instruments due to embouchure.

Those things they are better at will keep them alive on a lion-filled veldt, but are not helpful to them in succeeding in modern civilized society. In sports, in music, in acting definitely.

It's exactly what common sense shows.

RobertB said...

Greetings All From The Unfair City Of Duluth, Minnesota.

We came uP for the Duluth Boat Club's annual International Regatta. This city is so unfair , I only counted 7 blacks in the whole "downtown" on a Saturday at 1pm. I counted none at the regatta. There were three Hindu style indians at the regatta and two Asians. There were two blacks at our hotel and one was an employee.

All in all, a very "white" weekend. "Crewing" is a very white thing to do/spectate. Duluth itself, is a very white thing to do. In fact, if one continues on around the lake, one will end up I the Upper Peninsula, which is also a very white thing to do.

Pictures for "Paul" available on request.

Jay Santos said...

Anonymous said...

embouchure... veldt


Excellent! There's a lot to be learned at SBPDL, but rarely do I have to refer to a dictionary. Good job on your post.

YIH said...

@Anon July 15, 2012 10:20 AM:
I'll admit it, I'd never seen the word 'embouchure' before. Had no clue what it meant. Took me all of 15 seconds to find out and now that I know what the word means I see your point.
''better understanding of rhythm''; AKA ''natural rhythm'' that species would ook 'dat be raciss!'

Anonymous said...

Those things they are better at will keep them alive on a lion-filled veldt, but are not helpful to them in succeeding in modern civilized society. In sports, in music, in acting definitely.

Sports is an objective measure of talent so if blacks are better in sport X this can be measured. Not that I watch those sports.

Music and acting is a matter of taste. For years I read about Jay-Zee that liver lipped, ex-dope dealer thug. Hearing how he and his buttboy Kanye were corrupting the youth of England and Europe this summer I finally went to you tube to listen. It was same awful hip hop I've heard elsewhere. Dumb white girls in the audience were entranced. One reason we had segregation was to keep the dumber and more sexual white women from straying

Zenster said...

W74: Whosoever defines 'fairness' in this coming decade is going to (for better or worse) determine the fate of this country for the next century.

Unless you object, this is going into my Catalog of Race Realism Memes. As a long-time contributor, please permit me to congratulate you upon joining the club. I can only suppose that someone who is capable of using the word "Whosoever" isn't prone to condensing matters into a single sentence, but you have just now and that's all that matters.

Anonymous said...

Rack up the death of another once-prosperous American city due to black undertow: Gary, Ind.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2173761/Tragic-portrait-city-decline-The-desolate-ruins-Gary-Indiana-reveal-decaying-heart-Americas-proud-industrial-centre.html

Zenster said...

Anon (7/15 10:20 AM ): Blacks … were much easier to train on brass instruments due to embouchure.

Do you mean to say that those DSL (sorry, folks, you're going to have to look that one up all by yourselves) Mick Jagger style boot-lips are actually useful for something after all?

Speaking as a flautist, I personally saw Jean Pierre Rampal tear the wings off of Hubert Laws like a common housefly, so I still harbor some doubts about all that "embouchure" what-have-you. I mean, seriously, it's not as if the Western European designers of brass instruments specifically had Blacks in mind when they designed the French horn and such. Of that we can all rest most assured.

Zenster said...

kas: Constructive Feedback is correct in his assessment that our real troubles lie elsewhere.

None of which even slightly alters the fact that removing him and his kind from Western civilization would still result in a distinctly net-positive gain.

Anonymous said...

Drudge has a link to a story about women allegedly overtaking men in IQ tests.

What's so hilarious about it is the intense PC lefty excitement over a purported point or two in IQ difference re gender while they refuse to even slightly acknowledge the huge, yawning, documented gap between white IQ's and black IQ's. If they do acknowledge it at all they dismiss it as the result of racism, oppression, cultural differences, economic oppression by whitey, etc., etc. No such excuses offered for an alleged gender divergence! Ha, ha, ha....

Let's sing the praises of the vastly superior, god-like female but discussing the much more legitimate, indisputable evidence of far higher average white IQ's versus black is a horrible crime against all humanity.

It's so typical of the cultural Marxist crowd. They claim they believe in science above all else and are supposedly more correct and intelligent because of that but, when science doesn't confirm their belief system, they suddenly don't care about science anymore.

By the way, the source of this study is a political scientist, not a psychiatrist or actual scholar in the IQ field.

We live in a time of extreme, intense, and officially sanctioned and supported dishonesty. Strange times indeed.

Zenster said...

Anon (7/14 9:06 PM): The USA is a corporate tyranny and has been so for at least a century.

The significant difference being that "a century" ago, those corporate tyrants still retained some remote sense of patriotic pride. Today's financial and political elite have not the slightest compunction over off-shoring billions of wealth, core industries, vital national assets, sensitive technologies or even betraying their own genetic blood-lines just so long as they can spend yet one more picosecond farting through multiple layers of silk.

Anonymous said...

I posted about how much balcks are in Yahoo ads...
well I opened a new Yahoo email...and sho nuff,,
a smiling black gal is greetin me on tha page..


does anyone else notice this?

Anonymous said...

off topic

MOOCHELLE:
USA TODAY is for the Obamas...
wasting space on Michelles Wish List:


With the campaign heating up, President Obama suggested that he and his family aren't likely to get much of a family vacation this summer.

First lady Michelle Obama waves as she arrives to visit children, parents and staff at the Royal Castle Child Development Center, as part of her 'Lets Move!' initiative, Tuesday, Nov. 1, 2011, in New Orleans, La. "Most of it's going to be campaigning," Obama said of his summer plans in an interview with CBS's

Zenster said...

Mr. Rational: Knowledge has eaten many of those old roots which held our ancestors in their place and told them who and what they were. This is both a curse and a blessing; we have the blessing of more possibilities of what to do and be, and we have the curse of having to decide and decide rightly.

It's too bad that you can't dedicate yourself more often to composing comments of such caliber. 'Nuff said.

Californian said...

The significant difference being that "a century" ago, those corporate tyrants still retained some remote sense of patriotic pride.

True. But today they no longer need the working classes of their own countries. They've got globalization. They've got first world populaces which are entranced with bread & circuses. Why not move on to the next stage, which is worldwide dominance?

Zenster said...

Anon (7/13 8:13 PM): Noone wants to hear the sobering truth. Continually increasing spending for what have come to be percieved as entitlements is not sustainable.



Anyway, since citizens will vote for the most temporarily painless course, our dollars become worth less daily and the proverbial can gets kicked further down the road. Face it. No candidate who would make true efforts to repair the damage done will not even be nominated, much less elected.

We are made to think we have choices. We don't. It doesn't matter which puppet is put in place. The elitists will get it all and move on to the next victims. It's not race, religion, politics nor any of the other dividing issues with which we are bombarded that matter. It's money. That's all.
One world government is inevitable because that is the plan and noone who would stand in the way will be allowed to be deemed "electable." Those who control the MSM control the minds of the sheeple.
[emphasis added]

GAH!

At the guaranteed, totally built-in risk of summoning Mr. Rational from his minutiae-bedecked lair, I am nonetheless compelled to do something I absolutely detest and nitpick at your repeated use of "noone" and succumbing to a double negative in the midst of an otherwise completely BRILLIANT comment.

You are spot on the money and I can only hope that this caring admonition will assist in improving your valuable contributions. Please continue to provide more observations like the foregoing [nod towards Ray Schissom] because American (and European) Whites need to wake the F&%K UP about how the corporate interests which they largely finance are those who most actively seek their irreversible downfall.

Again, please keep on banging this (talking) drum about the Tranzi Globalist Vampire Elite™ as it is one of the few, if only, ways to enlighten Those Who Can See™ and everyone else whose ocular scales are about to drop.

Mutant Swarm said...

Anonymous said...

"off topic

MOOCHELLE:
USA TODAY is for the Obamas...
wasting space on Michelles Wish List..."
____________________________

I can't even get away from her ugly mug by watching Jeopardy! She's been on that show three times in the last week. I don't watch much TV, but that one's still fun. I see her, and the only thing that stops me from throwing the remote through the set is the fact that replacing a flat-screen TV is still pretty expensive.

Anonymous said...

P.K. you must do more research. Rice is backing Romney not Obama.

Anonymous said...

All this blowing and you are absolutely wrong Whiskey. But your statement is hilarious.

Anonymous said...

Ha ha. Why even publish this.

Anonymous said...

If unhappy with it unsubscribe and stop complaining. I can imagine you as a toddler, just simply burdensome to whatever raised you.

Anonymous said...

Sat. Nite living. Had great episode last nite. Exposed tough guy bloggers had to confront the human targets of their focuses. When physically face to face the bloggers crumbled and folded. Sad but true to life insight by the superb writers of the show.

Anonymous said...

You are a flautist, Shocker. I am sure you hold it up to your wet pink lips and blow real hard on it zennie. This is funny PK. You gotta publish this reply.

Anonymous said...

The significant difference being that "a century" ago, those corporate tyrants still retained some remote sense of patriotic pride. Today's financial and political elite have not the slightest compunction over off-shoring billions of wealth, core industries, vital national assets, sensitive technologies or even betraying their own genetic blood-lines just so long as they can spend yet one more picosecond farting through multiple layers of silk.

They had lots of patriotic pride and proof is that we won WW2. They geared up Detroit and River Rouge Ford to produce tanks and military trucks in no time flat. They made bombers and destroyers. These titans of industry were sometimes benevolent dictators and sometimes real nasty union busters to their workers. But they loved America. Today we have titans of bullshit like Facebook and titans of iPads. What real macho industries do we have left here? Our construction/real estate/last gasp bubble was mostly about guys building outdoors not in a feminized ruled office. Outsourcing sends guys jobs overseas while expanding the female/metrosexual oriented service sector. Public sector jobs are also female/metrosexual oriented not mention all the affirmative action hires there. These days affirmative action hiring includes gays, lesbians, blacks, Hispanics, Aleutian and Samoan islanders, Hawaiians (the kind Dog the Bounty Hunter detains) Native Americans etc etc ad nauseaum

Anonymous said...

Yes interracial coupling is on the increase. It seems a lot of people are doing it. I notice these couples everywhere I go.

Anonymous said...

You need to improve your elementary mathematical skills. There were more than you claim. Maybe you are just claiming to have attended and in reality were somewhere else. I was really there at your stated place and time period with my immediate family which alone trumps your calculated figures.

Anonymous said...

The ultimate intelligent mentally visualize thought processes as musical sounds and images of color. Do you research. It is proven.

Anonymous said...

Don't be greedy. Help the needy.

Anonymous said...

Yes, as is evident by the person who typed this comment. There is a gene/iq linkage. Guess which end of the measurement you are on A.M. 909 Annie.

Anonymous said...

Correction: your gray matter, not mine.

Anonymous said...

I don't think many would waste their time posting on here. I think the commentors claiming that racial group are race perpetrators

Anonymous said...

Rice vs Palin. No comparison. One is an intellectual, one is an idiot. Now honestly, which is which? Tell the truth. Ok, think the truth you don't have to respond. That would start a slippery slope which would expose the truth about ........stuff.

Anonymous said...

Don't like? Too bad. Assimilate and learn to enjoy or be miserable. I have learned to assimilate and it feels great.

Anonymous said...

Americans are not stupid. Americans are the greatest peoples on earth. Please don't put The American People down. You are just jealous. Come and join us then you will feel proud of yourself and the American Culture.

Anonymous said...

Wake up and realize that no one cares or even know about the readers here. Under 200 commentors per topic for a worldwide site, I mean really . Come to your common senses. I am sure its underneath that jumbled thought processing somewhere. You are truly alone in your venue. Release yourself from this darkness.

Discard said...

Anon at 2:00 PM, July 15: IQ tests used to show consistently that men were smarter than women. Someone or other decided that this wasn't acceptable, so greater weight was given to verbal ability in order to ensure IQ equality between the sexes. It's entirely possible, in a society as dishonest as ours, that the tests are being recalibrated to denigrate men by de-emphasizing those areas when men are superior. After all, it is now claimed that women make just as good fighters as men, and that we need to increase the number of women engineers even if it means excluding better qualified men. Chairman Mao is in our midst, and he's a she.

Mr. Rational said...

Zenster, I gave you permission (nay, encouraged you) over in the other thread to filter me out if it pleases you.  I'm not sure PK published that one, so I'll repeat myself.

I do find the nitpicking a bit amusing.

Anon, I'm not sure if it was Sailer or someone else just recently but I caught a commentary on a David Brooks piece in which Brooks gently admonished his own ethny to stop viewing itself as an oppressed minority and instead take itself seriously as an elite, including a sense of noblesse oblige.  Sailer (?) also noted that this criticism was so muted that most of those who need to take it to heart probably didn't have it pop up into their conscious awareness.

Anonymous said...

Speaking as a flautist, I personally saw Jean Pierre Rampal tear the wings off of Hubert Laws like a common housefly, so I still harbor some doubts about all that "embouchure" what-have-you. I mean, seriously, it's not as if the Western European designers of brass instruments specifically had Blacks in mind when they designed the French horn and such.

People with big fat lips, black or otherwise, do poorly with flutes (as do those with a specific type of upper lip curve), double reed instruments (oboe, cor ainglais, bassoon, and sarrusaphone-but no one plays those anyway) and, of the brasswinds, the French horn since it has an especially tight mouthpiece cup.

Tuba, baritone, trombone, trumpet, cornet are black strongholds. No white man sounds like Louis Armstrong, or Dizzy Gillespie. The great white trumpet men, Al Hirt, Doc Severinsen, Maynard Ferguson were all technically more innovative players but the blacks were both possessed of a different (arguably better) tone and, without argument, were better at a certain type of improvisation in a defined setting.

I saw a film, never released, made by a band director of two groups of pickup/casuals musicians-one all whites, one all blacks-being handed some difficult Middle Eastern music in some bizarre time signature. The whites read through it, counted it out, made some halting attempts, and in an hour were playing the tune-but in a stiff, awkward manner.

The blacks looked at it and played, but the count was completely wrong. It sounded nothing like the tune was expected to. After an hour or two, the researcher came in and sat down at the piano and explained/demonstrated what he wanted, counting it off. At first they just looked dumbfounded. Then one starts to play in correct time, and in ten minutes they were playing it exactly right, and it felt exactly right. (They played authentic field recordings of the music as a comparison.) Once shown, they nailed it, but on their own would have got nowhere no matter how long they had.

Black musicians, or rather the best black musicians, can do things whites can't. But those things are irrelevant to classical music, or normal pop music, and certainly to maintaining a society.They have proven they can't do that: I'll let them have the best jazz.

Kylie said...

"Have you all noticed how 'Black' yahoo is???"

Yes. I've noticed that for years now. Blacks as college students, blacks as loving couples and lately, blacks as Olympic athletes. It's nauseating.

Mr. Rational said...

This will be the last gasp of sexual egalitarianism.  You can bias tests all you want, but engineering involves combining the arts of man with knowledge of the laws of nature to accomplish an end.  There is no way to fake a design which is the strongest, longest-lasting, most efficient or cheapest; there are objective measures involved.  Pushing people who have less capability and interest into engineering will have them washing out in droves; pushing them out again with degrees (that they have not earned) will have them failing professionally as badly or worse.

Of course, if the goal is to force companies to hire them, it will push enginering work out of the USA entirely... which might be the goal.

At least the idea that women make just as good fighters as men will die as soon as two such groups meet up for real.

Anonymous said...

the word is "affirmative". Your poor spelling strongly suggests that you are black.

"there is no way a black person could actually earn [there] way to high positions"

ITS 'THEIR' in that case.

90404 said...

'the Stupid American Public is used to blacks being (sort of) in charge. I believe this helped legitimize the idea of Obama being president. '
see OCCIDENTAL OBSERVER for Blacks in film.
lotsa info.

Mr. Clean said...

To Anonymous 7/15/12 9:09AM:

I believe that genes are only very mildly associated with (mis)behavior. I don't think blacks are wired to be any more aggressive, or emotional, or impulsive than anyone else. If you are raised in an environment where all those around you yell at each other and chimp out without restraint, then you will very likely pick that up and adopt it as normal behavior. This is further exacerbated by the fact that certain segments of society excuse that behavior (when practiced by blacks), tolerate (or deny) it, and therefore just encourage it all the more.

With the comparison to traits in different dog breeds... first, blacks aren't dogs and like anyone else should be capable of controlling any truly innate tendencies they do have. Also, even genetic traits in dogs can be modified by their environment. For example, well-socialized pit bulls can be quite friendly.

Discard said...

Anon at 7:13 PM, July 15, say "Wake up and realize that no one cares or even knows about the here".

You might as well point out that one Paris coffee house in 1789 could seat only 50 people, or how few people actually read samidzat literature in the Soviet Union. There are lots of us. Read the comments on "mainstream" news articles. Not as direct as we are here, but the same ideas. If we're so insignificant, why are we censored? Why are simple facts ignored or distorted? History is not on the multi-cult's side.

Discard said...

Mr Clean: It's a fact that there is a physiological component to personality. Why else would drugs affect behavior? And just like any other physical trait, neurological qualities are inheritable and can vary between different populations. Given the enormous disparity between the adult behavior of Blacks and Whites, and the research showing group differences even among infants, it is a plausible hypothesis that Blacks are innately more brutish than Whites.

Zenster said...

Anon (7/15 7:13 PM ): Under 200 commentors per topic for a worldwide site, I mean really.

Hey, even dwarves started out small.

Californian said...

Under 200 commentors per topic for a worldwide site, I mean really .

Most political movements start with a good hardcore cadre, and then influence the wider populace. James Burnham liked to point out that Lenin started with a handful of followers, a few pounds borrowed from a bourgeoisie fellow travel, and a revolver nobody knew how to use. More recently, look at how social media and the Internet were used by Islamicists to overthrow several governments in the Middle East.

Consider how you see more race realist comments in mainstream publications--and more censorship of "racist" comments in the media. Clearly, SBPDL and related websites are having an impact. Sooner or later, race realism will break through to the mainstream, and then...watch out!

There's a line of dialog from the movie "Fight Club" which got cut but describes the situation: “We are the quiet young men who listen until it's time to decide.”

And add to the young men a lot of older guys and women of all ages.

Mr. Clean said...

To Discard 7/16/12 10:06AM:

I don't disagree with what you say as applied to individuals, and its blanket application to an entire race can be a "plausible hypothesis". But I believe that TNB is a cultural effect, and not based in biology to any notable extent. It is a classic "nature vs. nurture" argument, and it is tough to be able to prove either side. It is difficult to study populations in a manner that reliably and consistently excludes one effect, in a manner that preserves the other so that it can be observed. Maybe if you somehow (shudder) had a sample population of black children raised in white families, in a typical "white" environment, or (God forbid) a group of white children raised in black families, in a typical "black" environment, then you could study the outcome and quantify the incidence of TNB as a function of environment. If such a study was undertaken, I am confident that I would be proven right about TNB as a product of culture, not biology.

Discard said...

Mr Clean: I'd say it's obvious that culture can amplify or diminish innate behavior in individuals, but I think that it's also true that culture can modify the innate behavior of groups. A culture that admires the fastest long distance runners because they can kill more deer will find that the fastest men will have the most breeding opportunities, and the people of that group will tend to become faster than their neighbors who favor lion meat and therefore admire a stout man who can drive a spear through a charging feline.
Closer to the point, a culture that, for example, values co-operation will have fewer mating opportunities for lone wolves, and the people will gradually become innately more conformist.
To look at Blacks through this lens, we see that unemployment is not a deal-breaker for Black women, not is an unwillingness to commit oneself. The traits of irresponsibility, laziness, and so forth are not screened out, as they would tend to be among most Whites.
I think that these racial differences go back millennia, when European and Oriental farmers were struggling daily to get the crops to grow, while Africans were simply gathering food opportunistically. The casual hunter-gatherer of Africa has been placed among the strivers of Europe, and simply doesn't make the cut. TNB is just the frustrated response of a man far out of place.

BTW, I believe there are adoption studies of Blacks adopted by Whites. Not pretty.

Zenster said...

Mr. Clean: If such a study was undertaken, I am confident that I would be proven right about TNB as a product of culture, not biology.

Then how do you explain the way that, be it in China, Korea, Guam, Europe, the Caribbean or America, regardless of surrounding culture, Blacks routinely exhibit TNB with startling consistency?

It's not everywhere that they can or are allowed to build their "Little Africa" $hitholes. For instance, European cities still see massive TNB despite providing Blacks with some of the highest living standards in the entire world.

I'm confident that someone here at SBPDL has access to studies about Black infants adopted and raised by White families who then revert to the mean with clockwork regularity.

Mr. Rational said...

ZensterI'm confident that someone here at SBPDL has access to studies about Black infants adopted and raised by White families who then revert to the mean with clockwork regularity

If you mean the Minnesota Transracial Adoption Study, the reversion is right there in the results.

What's even more fascinating is that the "early-placed" adopted children have age 7 IQ stats which look a lot like the mulatto adoptees of all ages... and drop a full 0.8 STDV in tested IQ over the next 10 years.  Race will out.

Zenster said...

Well, that most certainly makes up for 00.0010000005489% of the nitpicking you've perpetually indulged in at this site and for that I can only thank you in equal measure.

Who'da thunk?

Zenster said...

PS: Thank you.

Mr. Rational said...

that most certainly makes up for 00.0010000005489% of the nitpicking you've perpetually indulged in

I'm reminded of the statistic of the fraction of statistics that are made up, and I am amused thereby.

Discard said...

I've had my disputes with both Zenster and Mr Rational, but I'm glad there's somebody here to recall all the stuff I forget. I was thinking Minnesota, Mr R, but I thought I might have been thinking of a study of twins separated at birth. Better to be vague than wrong, as long as there's someone batting cleanup.

Mr. Clean said...

To Discard 07/17/2012 9:54 AM I would argue that the mating choice, birthing and child rearing habits of contemporary blacks is entirely cultural. They have been thoroughly warped by the advent of the Great Society and other government programs that have metastasized since then. I don't see where biology has anything to do with it. One look at how marriage/illegitimacy rates of blacks have changed just over the second half of the 20th century should convince. Do you wish to propose that black biology has changed markedly just in the last 50 years?

I am not too knowledgeable about the efforts needed to survive "millenia" ago, and the differences between the races in that area. But allow me to suggest... that life wasn't easy for anyone. YOur comment seems to be that somehow Africans could hunt/gather easily, "opportunistically", in a "casual" manner. Even if a land of such plenty once existed, a people would breed explosively up to some point of equilibrium and start stressing the system. SO I think that the blacks would have **HAD** to work to sustain themselves, and so they did. I don't think this has changed, and I don't think that blacks are different from other races in that area... they will do what they need to do to survive. Of course, blacks don't need to do much when a government transfers wealth from other races to them so that they can live a life of comfort with little or no work, and they are given incentives to produce the largest possible batch of future parasites/cancers.

I agree with you on the nonstrivers being out of place with the strivers, but again, the non-striving quality may well be cultural. Even people with modest IQs can be strivers, although they might not accomplish as much. It is reasonable to propose that people will not strive when they are surrounded by non-strivers, have no incentive to strive, and indeed, have incentives **NOT** to strive.

Mr. Clean said...

To Zenster 07/17/2012 11:11AM
"Then how do you explain the way that, be it in China, Korea, Guam, Europe, the Caribbean or America, regardless of surrounding culture, Blacks routinely exhibit TNB with startling consistency?"
The phrasing in your question points to the answer, I believe. Are the blacks in question merely "surrounded" by the host culture? That is... Is there any meaningful mixing with that host culture, or are the blacks concentrated in their own little enclave (as I suspect they are)? If the latter, then the cultural effect is obviously undiluted.

It's not everywhere that they can or are allowed to build their "Little Africa" $hitholes. For instance, European cities still see massive TNB despite providing Blacks with some of the highest living standards in the entire world.
I don't disagree with this, and I am not sure how this applies to (or refutes?) my comments. A black thoroughly imbued with "black" culture is going to engage in TNB no matter how good a standard of living is wasted on him.

Discard said...

Mr Clean: I think that the mating and child rearing practices of Blacks are natural to them. Rather than the welfare state corrupting them, those policies have simply freed them to be themselves. No more Jim Crow, no more Southern sheriffs with dogs and cattle prods, no more sundown towns, plus free food and shelter so there's not even a need to answer to an employer. The acceptable behavior among Blacks that I knew as a boy was forced on them. The shackles are off now, and TNB is the result.

Regarding hunter-gatherers, it's true that they normally led leisurely lives. There was plenty of time for games and sitting around. The Western Indians' customs were systematically documented in the 1800s, and other tribes were recorded less rigorously back to the 1600s. Recreation, of course, was generally men's work. Somebody has to chew leather all day to make it supple enough to make moccasins.
Population growth was limited by warfare. The Sioux Nation, all seven(?) tribes gathered together at the Little Big Horn plus their allies the Cheyenne, came to about 12 to 15 thousand souls altogether. Yet this small group controlled the better part of Montana and North and South Dakota. They killed Crow and Pawnee on sight, as the Crow and Pawnee did to them, exactly as non-human predators defend their territories. There's a reason that these peoples were noted for being warriors. Less fierce tribes died out, either killed or through starvation. That is also how populations of mountain lions, bears, or wolves are regulated. Sub-Sarahan Africans never had to work, as agricultural peoples did. And this is, I think, the source of Black behavior. They're still in the stone age.

Anonymous said...

True, but P.K. is shutting down within a year. So, its time to sprout or get out. And i see the latter coming.

Zenster said...

Thank you for the great response, Discard .

TNB is genetic and cultural. To assign an overarching environmental quality to it is a fool's errand, at best.