Wednesday, August 28, 2013

"The Dream" After 50 Years: You can't wake up from the nightmare until you find the courage to to renounce the guilt and embrace the privilege

Jules Verne had a dream.

Arthur C. Clarke had a dream.
How's the dream doing? How's Detroit doing?

Carl Sagan had a dream.

Robert Heinlein had a dream.

Werner Von Braun had a dream.

Ever since man first gazed into the night sky and saw millions of lights glaring back, the dream has been to find what's out there, and perhaps discover if anyones looking back on a distant world wondering the same thing.


The Post Standard, the newspaper of Syracuse, New York, published a fitting epitaph to a long-dead civilization on July 17th, 1969. Under the title “Poor Give Reminder of Earth’s Ills, the Associated Press reported:
A gigantic moon rocket and an old mule-drawn wagon wrote a paradox of humanity Wednesday. 
 While the Apollo 11 thundered toward the moon as a thrilling step in the conquest of space, a contingent of the Poor People’s Campaign trudged a highway far below – as a reminder of hunger and poverty yet unconquered on earth. 
 “We must have a launching of a program against poverty – hunger in particular – racism and war; a launching that is just as effective and beautiful as was the moonshot launching,” said the Rev. Ralph David Abernathy, leader of the Poor People’s group that had VIP seats for the rocket spectacular. 
 Abernathy and 45 followers watched from choice seats at Kennedy Space Center while another contingent of his antipoverty corps briefly blocked traffic on a highway to the center.

About 40 marchers, trailed by a two-mule wagon, walked along the causeway from the space center and onto U.S. 1 before dispersing and boarding buses. 
 At the VIP viewing site – separate from that where Vice President Spiro Agnew, former President Lyndon B. Johnson and other dignitaries were  - Abernathy and his group sang “freedom songs” and he spoke to the entire crowd before the launch.
 
He said he’d come to see the spaceshot and to “demonstrate and protest that America has mixed up her priorities.” While the Apollo moon-landing voyage was the culmination of 10 years work, he said, “this nation still needs to plan a program for meeting human needs.” Abernathy, president of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference and successor to the late Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., called on the spectators to join the antipoverty campaign. He was busy signing autographs until about five minutes before the launch. After the Apollo roared away, Abernathy and his group sang, “We Shall Overcome,” the civil rights theme song. 
Three days later, men - white men - would step foot on the moon, courtesy of technological advances and courage seemingly written into the DNA of Western Man.

Imagine the juxtaposition of a the gigantic Apollo rocket in Cape Canaveral, next to a mule-drawn wagon, which only 100 years prior was one of the primary means for transporting white settlers across the American continent.

For the fulfillment of Manifest Destiny.

Yet, in the entire history of African people, no evidence is available that the invention of the wheel had ever occurred.
The reality of race has never so clearly been defined as this footprint on the moon. 

But Martin Luther King Jr. had his dream, and anyone else who ever dared, perchance to dream, saw them go up in a cloud of righteous smoke.

And thus, the genesis of what we have labeled Manifest Destruction was born.

Had MLK not been assassinated, he'd have led this Poor People's March on Cape Canaveral; He'd have been the one serenading the crowd with the Negro spiritual "We Shall Overcome" as a massive rocket, built by thousands of white men, hurdled three white men into the heavens.

America did launch a program against poverty and racism, scrapping the dreams of science fiction writers and visionaries in favor of a dream from a black man whose only goal was to ensure black people took power in cities like Detroit, Baltimore, Washington D.C., Atlanta, Memphis, and Birmingham.

All the movement MLK led was one to ensure a massive transfer of wealth and morality transpired, marooning the white man on this earth with the teeming masses using something called 'white privilege' as a rope to restrain his spirit.

But it will break.

For in the above AP article from 1969 rests the comical reality of evolution, and in 2013, we have the devolution of our major cities from hubs of commerce and growth, to blighted remnants of a failed civilization.

The civilization of MLK and Abernathy, where we abandoned the pursuit of space exploration and decided to ameliorate poverty and racism.

Think about that: in 10 years time, men in the 1960s set forth to put a man on the moon by the end of the decade; since then, we have seen an endless pursuit of eradicating inequality in the name of justice, under a banner with a picture of Comrade MLK.

All we have to show for it is Detroit.

And Gary (Indiana).

And Baltimore.

Newark and Camden, New Jersey too.

But on earth's natural satellite is a reminder of not only what could have been, because the physical evidence for genetic inequality rests more than a hundred thousand miles away forever a silent guard to racial differences.

A foot print.

Man stood on the moon.

White man.

What is the black man's foot print on this world?

What is the legacy of MLK's dream, which Abernathy carried on and kept alive by singing Negro Spirituals as the Apollo spacecraft roared into the heavens?

Detroit in 2013.

No, the last 50 years were not a dream.

You can't wake up from the nightmare until you find the courage to to renounce the guilt and embrace the privilege.



118 comments:

HaroldC said...

There is only one certain way to eliminate poverty and that is to eliminate the people who produce poverty. But that is not what BRA does. It rewards criminality, ignorance and indolence and penalizes the law abiding, education, thrift and industry. If you want more of something all you have to do is subsidize it and penalize the inverse values. Sums up BRA pretty well. BRA wants more poverty because it feeds on it. It takes a cut off the top.

Anonymous said...

To succeed you need to be able to read, write, and to basic math. Too bad there isn't a day care center for wilding youth that would take them from 0800 until 1630 hrs five days a week, separating them from students who wish to study. At least then those that wish to make the effort to excel can do so without the anchor of stupidity/criminality around their necks. You soar with eagles, not with ostriches.

A simple test given at the end of 6th grade determines your next 6 years. Fail the test, have criminal involvement, have drug involvement and you're exiled to the 8-1630 warehouse. Pass the test and you're on the road to being a citizen. Those exiled get the full treatment, DNA samples, finger prints, mug shots, etc as a way to identify those with anti-social proclivities.

Feeding those wish to succeed would be a priority. Those with the anti-social bent get fed rice and beans for lunch. Enough to kill the hunger pangs but not much more.

Males are separated from females. Leaders are identified and culled (chemically castrated).

Anonymous said...

The last 50 years were certainly not a dream for the thousands of White people who were murdered by blacks.

R.E. Prindle said...

As Donovan sang 'Why am I stumbling along the highway when I should be rolling 'cross the skyway.'

Nice juxtaposition of the two conditions. This one should get some kind of journalistic prize.

Superbly done.

Jay Santos said...

Here's the legacy of Martin Luther King:

Two negroes, ages 16, who have never known a moment of actual privation in their lives, beat to death an 88 year old white veteran wounded in World War II. After beating this man, a individual who led a productive, honest life, they accused him of selling crack cocaine. These ignorant savages beat an old man to death and then attempted to smear his life.

That is the legacy of Martin Luther King. A set of circumstances matching those above and repeated with some variation without end, day after day.

Anonymous said...

Kersey's brilliance is he uses no hate to make his case, just a simple recounting of the facts. And the facts are clear- whites can accomplish almost anything, blacks almost nothing. Facts can be so annoying.

Californian said...

"Liberty Unbound," the online version of the old "Liberty" magazine, has an article on Detroit at:

http://www.libertyunbound.com/node/1110

Scroll down and read the response by Charles Goines (assuming it does not get deleted). He points out that he has yet to see a city or country that black people have run successfully.

This is a good example of an intelligent race realist comment getting into a (sorta) mainstream publication. Mr. Goines lays out the race issue squarely, supports it with fact, and challenges "Liberty Unbound" to take it up.

It's a solid example for race realists...

Anonymous said...

Too bad there isn't a day care center for wilding youth that would take them from 0800 until 1630 hrs five days a week...

Good idea, but why let them out at all? A 24 hour lockup would do wonders for civic order!

Don in PA said...

I remember, I was a child of seven when Apollo 11 landed. I remember watching with breathless wonderment in what I thought would be our people's future. A future where our people would go on to the stars..

It was not to be. The dream died. Destroyed by the millstone around our collective necks of white guilt & black dysfunction & incompetence.

I hold out hope that it will be our destiny to spread our kindred folk thru the cosmos.. Someday?. Firstly, we MUST throw off the insane burden of "white guilt". It is OUR people who created this modern world & all of the bounty that comes with it. I myself do not suffer that burden.

Second. We must somehow, separate ourselves from the negro. This pestilence has the ability to bring the whole world down with it.

If we can do this. Expunge the insanity of political correctness & white guilt & separate the negro from our folk, we just might be able to fulfill our destiny. The one I feel that the gods hade planned for us. To go to the stars..

countenance said...

He said he’d come to see the spaceshot and to “demonstrate and protest that America has mixed up her priorities.” While the Apollo moon-landing voyage was the culmination of 10 years work, he said, “this nation still needs to plan a program for meeting human needs.”

By the time that happened, most of what they wanted actually was enacted into law. Civil rights acts, voting rights acts, various welfare programs. Nixon then enacted the civil rights revolution in an administrative-executive-bureaucratic sense during his time as President. PK is right, they got what they wanted, and then some and then some and then some.

Anonymous said...

What you wrote about Werner Von Braun having a dream is exactly what's wrong with this country. We could've been on Mars as you have written about in the past. Instead we squandered our energy and resources into trying to push the unwashed mass of humanity forward from behind. We, as a country, fail to understand the great contributions that true visionaries and leaders of this country have provided mankind. They understood that instead of pushing from behind the only way to move the mass of humanity is to pull it from the front. Instead we pissed away trillions on kidding ourselves that we could actually educate these sub humans to be productive members of an civilized society. We could've been on Mars exactly.

Anonymous said...

Carl sagan shouldn't be mentioned in the same universe as Wernher von Braun. Him and Oberth are some of the most quality living things to ever exist in this world.

While I'm on the subject. Notice the blacks point to the few black professors, engineers, doctors, businessmen, etc as evidence of their equality of the white man. But there has NEVER EVER been a black von Braun, Goddard, oberth, Plato, Aristotle, Newton..you get the drift. Never ever

Unknown said...

nice essay, but the fact is that the Apollo missions were a hoax.
Armstrong and company never set foot on the moon.
But the rest of your points are valid.

Anonymous said...

“The N*****R is indolent and lazy, and spends his money on frivolities, whereas the European is forward-looking, organized and intelligent.”- Che Guevara

LMFAO!! You've probably seen plenty of black youth wearing those Che T-Shirts.....

This is how stupid blacks are and CHE is 100% RIGHT!

Anonymous said...

Get that White!

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/pa-woman-attack-racially-motivated-article-1.1439406


Anonymous said...

Notice the blacks point to the few black professors, engineers, doctors, businessmen, etc


These people would be classified as Caucasians for the most part in a rational world. That one drop rule was invented by slave sellers to justify the selling of people who were basically White but it was completely illogical.
In old Virginia a person was classified as a Negro if they were more than 1/4 African (later 1/8)
But it seems that today US Negroes believe in the one drop rule and want to claim anyone who is even a tiny bit of Black African as one of their own. The Russian writer Pushkin(sort of like a Russian Shakespeare) was from a noble family but he was 1/4 Black African. No one ever refers to him as a Negro.I guess that US negroes would claim he was one of them lol

Anonymous said...

Powerful post. Love the imagery of the white mans footprint far from where any blacks will ever be.

james m said...

Years ago there was a rap group called NWA-Niggers With Attitudes

That was the actual name of the group they had a CD/Album Titled "Fear of a Black Planet" it was of course total shit but they were controversial enough to get a lot of publicity and (probably) a lot of money. I remember at the time thinking how dumb that CD title was, but now the thought of a "Black Planet" terrifies me. Think Global Detroit!
And I think Tom Cruise just made a film that dances around this very subject.
It was called Oblivion-and the Box office results proved it aptly named.
So in honor of the 50 year anniverssary of the MLK march on washington I offer this story which did not make the news today:
http://topconservativenews.com/2013/08/gangbanger-shoots-two-nj-women-on-path-train/

Bogolyubski said...

St. Martin the Adulterer was likely whacked by his own bosses, who were fronted by his chief handler Stanley Levinson (TWMNBN), CPUSA member and the section of the FBI run by the TWMNBN agent later known as "Deep Throat" - who was trusted by Hoover (or who knew about Hoover's cross-dressing proclivities). At any rate, his martyrdom came about just before Hoover (who despised St. Martin) was about to blow the lid on his group-sexcapades sessions, including one where his holiness is screaming that he's "fuckin' fo' Jeeezus". These tapes were sealed under court order by a kindly TWMNBN Federal judge for 75 years to "protect the fambly".

The truly amazing thing is how many "Conservative, Christian, Tea-Party patriotards think his holiness was one of them. They're so stupid they actually believe that shit-to-gold tale about the "content of character" was sincere. It was always a lie, from the very beginning. If anyone gets ahold of that priceless phrase recorded from the lips of the holy one, we need to make it into a ring-tone to play for all those nice Christian folks who continue to worship at the altar of equality über alles. After all, St. Martin is their real Jeeezus, not some 1st century teacher in Judea.

Anonymous said...

The space program was never intended to eventually end up on Mars. The environment is to hostile for long term settlement and the distance too great for conventional space travel. Absent a major development in propulsion or manufacturing processes, we are likely to remain orbital for quite some time.

The technology used in the Apollo Program was identical to the technology behind ICBMs and SLBMs. It was meant to showcase our ability as a nation to use resources for a peaceful end, as well as let the Soviets and the ChiComs know exactly what we as a nation were capable of.

The government's primary role is DEFENSE which the space program accomplished, in a roundabout way.

Think of it - the Berlin Wall first began to crack (and eventually crumble....thanks, Reagan) when Neil Armstrong walked on the surface of the Moon and returned home safely.

Just a thought...

Bogolyubski said...

The Russian writer Pushkin (sort of like a Russian Shakespeare) was from a noble family but he was 1/4 Black African. No one ever refers to him as a Negro.I guess that US negroes would claim he was one of them lol.

Oh, the Afro-centrists are quick to claim Pushkin. He was actually part Ethiopian (Amharic) who are actually Semitic in language and physical appearance, though generally dark-skinned. They don't look Bantu, because they aren't. I think he was the illegitimate grandson of an Ethopian ambassador to the Russian court.

Zimri said...

james m - "Fear of a Black Planet" was Public Enemy. NWA was a different crew.

I'll admit, I preferred NWA. I still have a soft spot for Dr Dre. Especially after he quit pretending that he had any political opinions and just admitted that he was in it for the ho's and the chronic.

Anonymous said...

"We could have been on Mars by now, but instead we had to fund Black Run America."

Room101 said...

Those with the most audacious 'dream' ever conceived, that of lifting the black race from savagery, barbarism, and mindless ignorance have succeeded beyond their wildest scams.
They have succeeded in deluding hundreds of millions and even billions of people throughout generations that their scam was plausible and is yet still achievable, if only the civilised and productive remain gullible, reject "racism", and keep the faith in the scam alive; most importantly, the high-priests of the "dream" demand that to remain righteous in their eyes, their congregation must pay in treasure and blood.
Forever.
PK has distilled my interpretation of the "dream" into an easily memorised 2 word descriptor, the definitive term the Black Undertow.

Anonymous said...

Happy Martin Luther King Day to everyone, or whatever it is that the MSM is ranting about which is happening in DC at the moment. And just think…. in a few short months we’ll get to celebrate Black History Month, formerly known as February. HOORAY!!!!!!!!!!! HOORAY!!!!!!!!!
And to think that here in the South during my childhood, Jeff Davis’s birthday was actually noted.

Californian said...

I remember, I was a child of seven when Apollo 11 landed. I remember watching with breathless wonderment in what I thought would be our people's future. A future where our people would go on to the stars.

Heinlein, Clarke, and many more believed the future of humanity was in the stars. But I think they may have been projecting their own worldview, that of white men in a world in which white people were still dominant in their own countries.

One thing they seemed to assume was that when non-whites were liberated, they would share the same dreams as white people. Heinlein was something of a liberal on race, but he did his critical writing during the 1940s to early 1960s, before the full impact of the civil rights revolution became apparent. White people and white interests were still in control in America and Western Europe (the USSR is a different case). At this time, whites even ruled in South Africa, Rhodesia and the Portuguese African Empire.

What these writers never seemed to face is that blacks did not have the same dreams as whites. That when blacks became free-at-last, they'd demand the welfare state (which Heinlein opposed) and trash major cities (so much for the future!). There's some hint of this dystopia in Heinlein's "Farham's Freehold" and in his later works. But if you have seen his interview following the Apollo 11 Moon Landing, he fully expected Man to go into Space.

Now where are we? The space shuttle was towed through Los Angeles for retirement as a museum piece, a relic of the white visions of that era.

As for Man in Space: I understand the Chinese have a manned space program...

Room101 said...

Unknown said...

" nice essay, but the fact is that the Apollo missions were a hoax.
Armstrong and company never set foot on the moon.
But the rest of your points are valid.
"

August 28, 2013 at 4:00 PM
If I remember correctly, you're the immigrant from India who has offered several interesting observations about the experiences of your family since you came to America.
Now you're kind of wandering into trollish/nutbar territory by asserting the 1st landing on the moon in 1969 was a government hoax.
I'm more inclined to believe the Holocaust has been a little puffed-up and exaggerated for the political benefit of a certain chosen few than I am to believe the moon landing by the US in '69 was a complete fabrication.
Surely you have incontrovertible sources from the contemporaneous KGB files of the Soviet Union.
I hate and distrust the US government and am willing to be educated otherwise if provided with credible links, but I just don't think the lying thieving criminal government lied about this one.

Even the blind squirrel sometimes finds an acorn.

Room101 said...

Bogolyubski said...

" The Russian writer Pushkin (sort of like a Russian Shakespeare) was from a noble family but he was 1/4 Black African. No one ever refers to him as a Negro.I guess that US negroes would claim he was one of them lol.

Oh, the Afro-centrists are quick to claim Pushkin. He was actually part Ethiopian (Amharic) who are actually Semitic in language and physical appearance, though generally dark-skinned. They don't look Bantu, because they aren't. I think he was the illegitimate grandson of an Ethopian ambassador to the Russian court.
"

If Pushkin had a great great grandson, he'd look like the getaway driver for the thugs who murdered Chris Lane.

Anonymous said...

I was with you until the chemical castration part.The rest of what you said,done properly,would be enough.It would be a hell of a lot better than now any way you look at it.Thanks! Richard Cranium

Anonymous said...

Anonymous @4:37 said...

The space program was never intended to eventually end up on Mars.

Misses the point. The space program would end up wherever white engineers would want it to end; the galaxy is wide open. Even today, vital satellite programs that tell us about our own planet are being cut by Obongo 'cause he can't see how they help his sons.

Here's how they help his sons, they tell white scientists things all people need to know, such as when will the CO2 bloom cause shellfish destruction or another Katrina, or why did the grid go down? (solar flare) Sons of Obama need their cell phones and they can't plan the next mob attack without.

Anonymous said...

Well if the Apollo missions were a warning shot to the Russians, the fact we need their Soyuz to replenish the International Space Station to make it habitable means they won the space race in the end. I would support sending massive colonies to Mars if the passengers were all U.S. Negroes. Perhaps there could be a lottery type drawing where only blacks win a seat?

rjp said...

Don't make me cry on this historic day.

"The 50th Anniversary of the First Day of the End of America".

I have things to do.

Figure out what I need to pack to head out of town to look for work next week.

I might be allowed to have a job in Chicago if it weren't for the EEOC required gender and race description when making application. But that is the legacy of Dr. King - can't hire a white man when a worthless nigger might be available.

10mm AUTO said...

Whites have let themselves be convinced that it is racist merely to object to dispossession,
much less to work for their own interests.
Never before has a people been fooled into thinking that there was virtue or nobility in surrendering its heritage,
and giving away to others its place in history;
only whites have been tricked into thinking that love for their own people is somehow “hatred” of others. Worse, their accommodations to the violent have signaled weakness instead of moral courage and emboldened their racial foes. Because of this, White children have suffered unbelievable torment at the hands of these creatures.

Whites will never be safe till negros FEAR to touch a White.

panjoomby said...

I am for equal rights. that means END affirmative action. END disparate impact laws. STOP placating the Negro.

"Pro- Patria" 31st Inf Regiment said...

Of course, "The Dream" and all it has done for the USA. An example would be the military in our wars. During WW II the all black, with white officers, the 92d Inf Div (Buffalos) that never met a German they could beat other than a foot race to the rear. Fast forward to the Korean war and the 24th Inf Regiment (all black-white officers) showed both Japanese & Koreans what cowards they are when not engaged in battle. Prior to deployment to Korea the 24th ran wild in Japan and made a lasting impression as animals to the Japanese. "Bugout" was their motto and regimental song. But after King's leadership the blacks through out the military showed their "greatness" by rioting on nearly all military bases where the USA had troops. In Vietnam when faced with the enemy they were, for the majority, cowards. Nothing has changed except the weakness of our people regarding this race. You can look up the facts of military service by blacks and disregard the attempt of liberals to rewrite history it's all true. God help us.

Anonymous said...

Bogolyubski said..

Oh, the Afro-centrists are quick to claim Pushkin. He was actually part Ethiopian (Amharic) who are actually Semitic in language and physical appearance, though generally dark-skinned. They don't look Bantu, because they aren't. I think he was the illegitimate grandson of an Ethopian ambassador to the Russian court.

August 28, 2013 at 4:38 PM


I'm used to work with an Ethiopian gentleman at one time.If you think the posters here hate Niggers,you haven't talked with an Ethiopian....

Anonymous said...

Now the groids are leading this joke of a Nation to World War 3. God does have a sense of hhumor.

Anonymous said...

@Unknown-you're a moron. First of all, the moon is only 240k miles away. If you were old enough you would know that the landing on the moon was just the culmination of all of the little steps that led up to it. You first had a man go into space and then come down; then the astronauts went into space and orbited the earth; then unmanned spacecraft landed on the moon; then astronauts orbited the moon before actually trying to land a live man on the moon and be able to get off and meet up with the orbiting spacecraft.
It was a progression of trial and error.

james m said...

West coast rappers i dont know so well. Where I live is home of The Wu-Tang Clan as they got famous in the 90's the would stage a street fair with free amusement rides ,cotton candy, hot dogs ,ect for the residents/kids of the projects they lived in the Project is called Park Hill. They called it Park Hill Day and the media ate it up. A neighborhood block party in a cesspool of drugs and crime. The 1st year they had it someone got shot. The paper wrote something Like" Violence Mars 1st Annual Park Hill Day and then proceeded to write how great everything was, LOL!
Year Later P Hill day #2-wait for it..more shooting. sanme for Year 3 I think it went on for a while but every year had a shooting. the Members of Wu-Tang were safely ensconced in thier California mansions.
However one of thier Baby Mommas (dont know which)and her kid were caught in a crossfire the kid was maybe 2 yrs old? I took them home from the hospital SIUH the fare was $8 I think? she had to borrow money from the crowd on the street who saw her and gathererd around to welcome them back. Big swarm of blacks around my car, not very comfy situation. luckily it was late afternoon so I wasnt too paranoid but I still thought about having to run people over to get away if things went sideways. Seriously nerve wracking shit.
One of the "fans" who iI guessed was looking to tap that ass did one of those ghetto handshakes with the kid and said something like we gonna call you "three pound seven" because he had been grazed by a .357 slug. Momma smiled at that, I got paid, no tip and got out of there post haste. Those buildings were like the valley of death to me-you can Google them -180 Park Hill ave SI NY 10306 is at one end and just look at the long row of crack dealing ,weed selling, welfare cheating scumbag "hood"
Inside the lobby of 160 Park hill was a tally of all those who had been shot in the foyer buying crack (I was told this numerous times by different junkies and I believed them)
So yeah I have sen enough of the rap world to never give a fuck as long as I live NWA,Wu-Tang, Cypress Hill all can die in a plane crash and I would laugh out loud.

Anonymous said...

Years from now when the truth about King is finally exposed to the masses, every city in America will need to name and print up a new street sign. What a Joke on us! What a travesty on us is more like it! The man was DISGUSTING.

Semi-employed White Guy said...

Here we are 50 years later celebrating a guy because he "had a dream". A scheme is more like it. How many caucasians in that half century have done truly great things in the arts and sciences? Thousands and thousands.

Gwinnett Gladiator said...

OT, but on this 50th anniversary of the famous speech of the great Michael Scott King, I have a special treat for SBPDL. I was doing some work this afternoon which involved reviewing some content from the computer of a negress. One who has (predictably) screamed, dat be rayciss and sued when she wasn’t immediately placed in the highest leadership role of her organization…

It was there that I found this gem – this most savory morsel of shit sandwich that I immediately knew must be shared with those who can see…

Gwinnett Gladiator


The Black Prayer

This is deep, so take your time.

Why did you give me thick lips,
a broad nose and kinky hair?
Why did you create someone
who receives the hated stare?

Black is the color of the bruised eye
when someone gets hurt...
Black is the color of darkness,
black is the color of dirt.

Why is my bone structure so thick,
my hips and cheeks so high?
Why are my eyes brown,
and not the color of the sky?

Why do people think I'm useless?
How come I feel so used?
Why do people see my skin
and think I should be abused?

Lord, I just don't understand...
What is it about my skin?
Why is it some people want to hate me
and not know the person within?

Black is what people are "Labeled"
when others want to keep them away...
Black is the color of shadows cast...
Black is the end of the day.

Lord you know my own people mistreat me,
and you know this just ain't right...
They don't like my hair, they don't like my
skin, as they say I'm too dark or too light!

Lord, don't you think
it's time to make a change?
Why don't you redo creation
and make everyone the same?

God's Reply:

Why did I make you black? Why did I make you black?

I made you in the color of coal
from which beautiful diamonds are formed...
I made you in the color of oil,
the black gold which keeps people warm.

Your color is the same as the rich dark soil
that grows the food you need...
Your color is the same as the black stallion and
panther, Oh what majestic creatures indeed!

All colors of the heavenly rainbow
can be found throughout every nation...
When all these colors are blended,
you become my greatest creation!
Your hair is the texture of lamb's wool,
such a beautiful creature is he...
I am the shepherd who watches them,
I will ALWAYS watch over thee!

You are the color of the midnight sky,
I put star glitter in your eyes...
There's a beautiful smile hidden behind your pain...
That's why your cheeks are so high!

You are the color of dark clouds
from the hurricanes I create in September...
I made your lips so full and thick,
so when you kiss...they will remember!

Your stature is strong,
your bone structure thick to withstand the
burden of time...
The reflection you see in the mirror,
that image that looks back, that is MINE!

So get off your knees,
look in the mirror and tell me what you see?
I didn't make you in the image of darkness...
I made you in the image of ME!

Send this to every African-American person you know.....

Anonymous said...

Solid post.

J James said...

The black man's footprints can be found on the corpse of Delbert Belton, just one of the latest of the tens of thousands of white martyred on the pyre of diversity. Because we allowed communists whites radicals and black malcontents to destroy the rule of "Jim Crow" in America now whites are not safe anywhere from black savagery. If whites aren't safe from black savages in Spokane, with a reported black demographic of only 3%, then we aren't safe anymore anywhere in America.

Anonymous said...

Rush played a montage...all these talking head jerks gushing over 'obama, the new mlk'...

disgusting
obama is a divider and anti american.

So CAL Snowman said...

Room 101 said :

"I hate and distrust the US government and am willing to be educated otherwise if provided with credible links, but I just don't think the lying thieving criminal government lied about this one"

Wag The Moondoggie

The final moon landing was in December of 1972, nearly 41 years ago. Think about all of the technological advances made in 41 years. We have fiber optic cables in buildings, we have orbital space stations, we have (had) the space shuttles, the navy has freaking RAIL GUNS and DARPA is on the verge of unleashing the power of quantum computing. My point is that despite these massive innovations and leaps forward in technology, no other nation has even ATTEMPTED a manned mission to the moon. In 1927 Charles Lindbergh became the first man to fly solo in an airplane across the Atlantic ocean. This was considered the crowning technological achievement of the day. If by 1968 NO ONE ELSE had replicated this feat, wouldn't that seem a bit strange? I mean doesn't it seem a bit odd that mankind's greatest technological achievement occurred in 1969 and despite the almost exponential growth in technology, no one has been able to replicate that feat? The nation that landed men on the moon can't even re-supply the International Space Station. How did we go backwards despite all of the technological achievements? I mean I have more computing power in this laptop and in my cell phone than was used to send men to the moon. With all of the available modern computing power, our GPS guidance systems, and the space shuttle, going to the moon should be a breeze right?

Anonymous said...

via Drudge..hes black

Samuel Whitney, 87, recently died and it is believed that he had 54 children. His children are now looking for clues about their siblings.

A Phoenix, Ariz. man who died at the age of 87 had no problem leaving a legacy.

Samuel Delbert Whitney claimed to have fathered 54 children during his long and busy life — including a daughter he reportedly had when he was 74 years old.

After Whitney’s death in July, stepdaughter Lexie Woods discovered bottles of 100 milligram Viagra — the highest possible dosage — and a pile of birth certificates in Whitney’s apartment. The 68-year-old has made it her goal to help Whitney’s biological children bring the large brood together. But Whitney had always been a quiet person who didn’t want to talk about how, when, or why he sowed his wild oats.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/arizona-man-claims-fathered-54-children-family-members-article-1.1438703#ixzz2dKel3RdX

Anonymous said...

Truth

Anonymous said...

what can be done, you ask? heres what i do. avoid all interactions with blacks. keep a safe distance and move away when they are near. attempt to educate fellow whites ( not liberals, too far gone) about crime stats. educate fellow whites that being called a racist is not something to shy away from. remember, you may know one or two blacks that you think are "normal" or "cool". they are just acting white. believe me, they always revert

AnalogMan said...

This is deep, so take your time.

Damn, GG; was that your ironic comment, or in the original?

You should have warned me. I was having a good laugh, but nearly lost my breakfast when I read "when you kiss - they'll remember." Now I have to try to forget that image.

Truly, they are the most worthless of creatures. And that's precisely why we're not allowed to point that out; because it's not nice to pick on the racially handicapped.

Bogolyubski said...

Anonymous said...
Rush played a montage...all these talking head jerks gushing over 'obama, the new mlk'...

disgusting
obama is a divider and anti american.


Obama is like MLK. The problem with Rush (and apparently you) is your failure to see that MLK was a total lie. Rush (and nearly all "conservatives") are believing in a fantasy that never existed. Michael King - St. Martin the Adulterer - was a Marxist, anti-white, anti-American race pimp of the first order, along with being an utterly depraved groid. I find it interesting that this POS os the only historical individual who has his own national holiday. Washington and Lincoln were merged into "Prezidents Day" and Columbus Day now be rayciss.

NORDIC CAUCASOID said...

greatwhites, our dear leader kim-jong-obama said in his hate speech yesterday "that black children have accepted their plight." no barry, children don't accept anything cause they are supposed to have an adult making their decision's for them till they hit 18! also when the black leaders don't invite the only black senator to speak cause he has different views from the race hustlers. that should speak volumes about what these hustlers are up to. they will never believe that it's not 1962 Selma Alabama. also people shouldn't we tell the feds to fuck off for demanding that we get a driving I.D.! wouldn't that be discrimination? any I.D. would be discrimination if you go on the voter I.D. being wrong than any I.d. would be null and void. they try to have it both ways now don't they? go to hell NAACP! GODSPEED/SEGREGATION NATION!!!

Anonymous said...

http://news.yahoo.com/blacks--latinos-still--losing-ground--50-years-after-mlk%E2%80%99s-speech-in-washington-205544853.html

You cannot make this stuff up. If you don't feel like wading thru all the liberal ramblings, let me share this quote with you.

"Economics aside, today, blacks are still targets of hate and bigotry. The FBI hate crime statistics of 2011 reported that 3,465 single-bias hate crime offenses were racially motivated. Out of those 3,465 offenses about 72.0 percent were anti-black motivated and 16.7 for anti-white biases.

So, why is the term “civil rights” today such a thorn in the sides of young black men? Because anytime a man can get away with murdering a 17-year-old black teen, the law is most definitely tipped to one side, and it’s not the side of blacks."

Anonymous said...

Yesterday I told a group of right-thinking whites that I also had a dream - that I'll live long enough to not have to hear about this shit any more.

MLK was shot when I was in grade school so I still remember the riots. I especially remember our neighbor sitting on his porch with a shotgun ready to defend his block filled with women and children (he worked 3rd shift and was the only man home during the day).

Scroll forward to 2013 and Detroit can't issue birth or death certificates because the vendor wants cash and you know how black people don't like parting with their own cash. They can't get gubmint gimmes without that paper and they can't get the paper without some cash. They're hopeless and should be treated as such.

Don M said...

Whaaa? 50 posts on an article that mentions the Moonshots and no Gill Scott Heron?

Here ya go!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtBy_ppG4hY

Enjoy!

Anonymous said...

Public Enemy made the album. Fear of a black planet 1989.

Anonymous said...

Concealing Charleton Heston, Denying MLK:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/08/concealing_charlton_heston_denying_mlk.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

What a sick, non-white,, piece of shit article. Unbelievable how white men prostrate themselves before their righteous black gods.

Anonymous said...

Anti-intellectualism in Black ghetto culture exposed:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/356718/devastating-affirmative-action-failure-heather-mac-donald

Lorraine said...

I am trying to hang in here but sometimes its hard. I have to say that there are days between reading this site, Amren, Council of Concerned Conservative Citizens, Countenance, Pioneer Preppy, etc. that I get really depressed.

We have no leaders that give a damn about the plight of the white working and middle class. White boys are getting shot and torched to death and white girls are slapped and bullied and the Repubfucks just hold hands with Jimmy and Willy and sing Kumbaya about MLK.

Amurkistan is truly a nightmare. I am feeling anxious because my survival senses are telling me go West.

Now we are in the Middle East? Why?

Our leaders just want an Empire. They want power, poon, and profit.

I am not an American, I am a white person living in America.

White Mom in VA

Gwinnett Gladiator said...

With regard to the moon landing silliness, here's a dose of reality

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_loUDS4c3Cs

GG

Anonymous said...

Actually the African ancestor of Pushkin was his great grandfather so he would be an 1/8 African just like Plessy in Plessy v. Furgeson.

Pushkin is of obvious African ancestry in most portraits. However African-Americans have no claim upon him since they descend from Bantu West Africans. While Pushkin's African ancestor was from Ethiopia/Eritrea and not Bantu.

D-FENS said...

Whatever you think of JFK (and I strongly disagreed with many of his policies), I think his "We choose to go to the moon" speech he made at Rice University is one of his best. I wish this speech was cited more often than his banal inauguration speech.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-M9PO3z8_OU

D-FENS said...

"My point is that despite these massive innovations and leaps forward in technology, no other nation has even ATTEMPTED a manned mission to the moon."

JFK proposed Apollo in response to the debacle of the Bay of Pigs and other early foreign policy failures of the Kennedy administration. In other words, it was a political stunt. Eventually, JFK grew to appreciate Apollo in its own right, though he was always nervous about its enormous expense.

To doubt the reality of the lunar landings because no other nation has attempted them ignores the documented Soviet effort which beat the US in the first successful unmanned lunar landing.

It would be harder to fake the landing than to actually do the landing. The HBO series "From the Earth to the Moon" had lunar landing scenes that represented the best that Hollywood special effects could achieve with late 1990's cinematography but they still could not accurately depict the stirring up of dust in 1/6 gravity and a vacuum.

Anonymous said...

The second comment, Anonymous, 8/28 2:36PM, is absolute genius. If we could make that happen, the country would be fully healed within a generation or two!

Even with all the legislation that can ever be passed, all the prop-up programs bankrupting this country, all the crap force-fed to us through the media...won't make chicken salad from chicken shit. That's the honest-to-goodness truth.

Go off-grid, starve the beast, get armed, and get ready.

Anonymous said...

THANKS TO Y'ALL
AND A HAPPY MLK DAY...
via Drudge:

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/08/28/20K-estimated-march-on-washington

Anonymous said...


Obama is like MLK. The problem with Rush (and apparently you) is your failure to see that MLK was a total lie.

I posted the info on Rush Limbaugh.
I never stated I admire MLK.
I note the 'negro worship' and rewriting of history!
The media lets BHO ride in on MLKs coat tails...no criticism, etc.

lemmings in the press, not journalists.

Mr. Rational said...

despite these massive innovations and leaps forward in technology, no other nation has even ATTEMPTED a manned mission to the moon.

The Soviets had the N-1 rocket which was a competitor to Apollo.  But they did not have von Braun, and they did have a policy of hushing up their failures.  They had some spectacular failures, which is why Apollo made it first to the moon.

despite the almost exponential growth in technology, no one has been able to replicate that feat?

After losing the Moon race the Soviets decided to be best in space stations.  They've done quite well.

The nation that landed men on the moon can't even re-supply the International Space Station.

SpaceX has flown resupply missions.  That's not the US government, that's a private US company.  Think about what that means for the actual difficulty of the task, and what that means for ultimate capability.

The cost and ultimate retirement of the Space Shuttle was due to its circumstances of conception:  "An elephant is a mouse designed by a committee."

And GG, excellent video.  Bookmarked!

Anonymous said...

When the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth about MLK is finally released and he is shown up for exactly what he was, releasing the tapes will be declared to be "raycism" and "jes' tryin' to make black folks look bad." The niggerwhine will be intense!
DWL's will immediately be on board with the excuses, rationalizations and other nonsense about how what he was and really stood for doesn't matter and it's the message that counts. Ignore the hypocrisy if you please.
I'm proably too old and won't be around when it all happens but I don't have to be since niggerwhine and DWL garbage spewing is as predictable as sunrise and sunset.
All I can hope is that the collapse has already happened, whites have rebuilt and negroes and DWL's have been shuffled off to live in autonomous negro shitholes of diversity and no one will care about what they say. They can simply whine to each other and the rest of the world will not give a single f*ck.

D-FENS said...

Of all the public figures who have commented on MLK, I think Jackie Kennedy understood him best even if her comments were not supposed to be released.

Anonymous said...

An important point that all must understand. Not only are whites the only people; they are the ONLY people you could convince to do this. No other people have the ingrained sense of altruism that whites have. You could never convince the Chinese, Arabs, Jews, or any other ethnic or racial group to do this.

Turning one our greatest strengths into a tool against us. Pretty sick, huh?

Anonymous said...

blackness is a mindset and has nothing to do with IQ. Anyone who spends time around negroes knows what I'm talking about. They can have a 150 IQ and still are quite black. Its a genetically inherited mindset...

10mm AUTO said...

GG and others, you are all invited over to my place for a White Weekend (labor Day) as Saturday Night (assuming clear skies) we are bouncing a Laser off the prisms left on the moon by the Astronauts. We are also BBQ'ing (ribs, Chicken, Pork Chops, Salmon), hosting various Drinking games, playing Star Fleet Battles and lest you think me a complete nerd, doing auto maintenance!

Vicio Malo said...

I need a little help on this...I am not a conspiracy kind of guy. In the early 1050s dust off pilots choppered out gun shot victims from the front lines. The survival rate was greatly enhanced. In the Civil War gut shot victims were cared for and died a lengthy death. They did not do invasive surgery. Cut off an arm or a leg and the victim more often died of shock or infection. A couple of modern day cases come to mind. Jack Ruby shot Lee Harvey Oswald...gut shot. He died at the hospital, from a small caliber wound. Martin Luther King was gut shot. Not from a small caliber weapon but an assault rifle. Both of these people had, in my opinion, a no need to save order. Both individuals were in the south...both trouble makers...both expendable by any measure. How is it that it takes days to die from a gut shot wound if not treated?... I hope someone here can expand on this...VM

Vicio Malo said...

anon at 2:36 PM...it's called reform school I don't ever hear that term anymore. Although I think that 13 year old white boy and the 3 negro animals that beat the tar out of him were in some type of modern day reform school...bring back the chain gang and the whip...let the libtards cry and weep over their "pets" being mistreated. May the likes of Joe Arpaio live forever. Feed 'em green bologna no coffee make 'em sweat it out in a tent in the desert...VM

Anonymous said...

Omg, how did you not die laughing reading that?

CENTURION said...

The purpose of the "snivel rights" movement was not for the black people to be free. They were already free. They could have avoided and ignored the "Whites" anytime they wanted.

They could have opened their own Woolworth counters or schools or Universities. They could have built their own suburbs, etc.

Nope. The purpose was only two-fold:

1) The White man's money

2) The White man's women.

It was an act of war to do what all acts of war do: Conquer into submission other tribes and take their food and fuck their women.

That is all.

10mm AUTO said...

"SpaceX has flown resupply missions. That's not the US government, that's a private US company. Think about what that means for the actual difficulty of the task, and what that means for ultimate capability."

This is an incredibly important comment. SpaceX was a pipedream till the shit brown President turned NASA inward. SpaceX (and the even more beautiful and useful "Space Plane" (See: http://spaceinimages.esa.int/Images/2013/07/SABRE_engine_in_place_on_Skylon_spaceplane ) are again steps onward to "2001", White Man's Dream. Private Industry can orbit NOW, the moon is only another step (though a large one, it is not a "new Tech" step like the SABRE engine was). When we go back, it will be for good, to build and have families and make the dead moon flower. What a Moment of Triumph!

On the negative side, How much you want to bet that there is pressure on SpaceX to do the politically correct thing (in the Spirit of Dr. MLK of course) and put a negro on the crew. So far they have resisted, but you have to know that Apeirmative Action will never be denied.

Anonymous said...

Your right, I've decided to learn tae kwon do even though I'm an older white woman. And I'm going to stand with and for my own kind! No matter what! And I don't give a tinkers damn about being called a racist either because I'm proud of my own people and I'm proud of all of OUR accomplishments! And if that makes me a racist than so be it! I will be a proud racist and feel no shame for the love of my own people, the feral animals be damned!

Anonymous said...

Indian said..

The USA (united states of Africa), in its current state, will only last another 25 to 30 years, tops.

By using the tried and tested method of the caste system, from India, the USA would easily last, 500 years.

They say, war is in the mind only and, the greatest weapon in the world, is the mind. In other words, baboons and sheboons might just be a figure of your imagination but, we all know this isn't true, so, how do you get round it?

The answer is, another Indian method, it's called yoga, it is so powerful it can actually change the way you see the world, only through a window. Indian master yogis have been known to meditate, using advanced yoga techniques, to reach a state of mind where, nothing happening in this world can change their state of bliss.

If white people learned these techniques of yoga and bliss, it would confuse the baboons and sheboons so much, they would be scared just to look at you, reason being, to reach a state of bliss takes extremely high intelligence and a lot of patience. These are two traits that are uncommon in the watermelon, KFC eating chimpanzee.

To conclude, you can win a battle, without lifting a finger.


Californian said...

Putting a Man on the Moon was one of the greatest accomplishments of the White race. Within a decade of declaring the intention to do so, Americans did in fact land on the Moon. Compare that to the outcome of "solving our problems back here on Earth." Look at the outcome of the war on poverty or civil rights movement, and consider how the USA is becoming increasingly dystopian after a half century of liberal policies.


With all of the available modern computing power, our GPS guidance systems, and the space shuttle, going to the moon should be a breeze right?

In many ways we have regressed. Again, look at Detroit. When major American cities are laid waste, you have to ask what impact that has on technological developments. When the White men and women who created the technology for the space program are increasingly displaced, how that affects the vision.

Yes, we have better gizmos. People can now stare into electronic screens 24/7. And get pornscanned at the airports. And have the NSA record this posting. Advances in technology, pace Orwell, are being used to enhance surveillance and agitprop. But not move us into the future.

Look at the bigger picture, at how much of the infrastructure of this country is falling apart. Or the mindlock that television has had on the modern mentality. Or the effects of globalization on undermining nationhood. And yes, the effects of BRA in changing national priorities and dragging everything down to the lowest common denominator. It can be argued we are in a period of decadence.

To some degree, the manned space program was the final wave of the American pioneer spirit. But that spirit has long since been replaced. And it needs to be reclaimed.

As for manned space programs--I understand the Chinese are headed that way.

Californian said...

Your right, I've decided to learn tae kwon do even though I'm an older white woman. And I'm going to stand with and for my own kind!

Good!

And yes, it's vital to learn as many self defense and self discipline skills as possible.

Anonymous said...

As far as self defense, especially for women, I would recommend Krav Maga. It's a no rules art focusing on damage.

I enrolled my wife and she's loving it.

Vicio Malo said...

I am sticking to 3 sentence posts here. 75% of my posts are never posted. I prefer reading other peoples posts anyway. I know what I know and it is not worth the time hammering it out on a keyboard just to see it either spam trapped or censored...VM

Anonymous said...

SCOTUS is not elected
MLK not elected
UN, not elected by USA..

we are detroited as well:

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130829/METRO01/308290046/Death-certificates-took-holiday-wake-bankruptcy-filing?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|FRONTPAGE|p

Anonymous said...

Of all the public figures who have commented on MLK, I think Jackie Kennedy understood him best even if her comments were not supposed to be release

What did she say?

Vicio Malo said...

OFF TOPIC...Don't Bite the Hand that Feeds You. Today fast food employees walk out on their jobs in protest wanting 15 bux an hour. Excuse me is this a new career choice? It would be very simple to turn fast food chains into giant vending machines. Enter your menu choices on a keypad, Order prepared, bagged and delivered without a person to person encounter. Romney was laughed at when he was amazed at the efficiency of Wawa's technique. Keep pushing and there will not be an entry level job left in the US. I do not like the idea of negroes touching my food anyway. I'm not big on fast food. If there ever was a job that commanded minimum wage, it is the fast food industry. Good luck with that "strike" if you missed work today and you worked for me...you'd be huntin' a new job...VM

So CAL Snowman said...

D-FENS said:

"To doubt the reality of the lunar landings because no other nation has attempted them ignores the documented Soviet effort which beat the US in the first successful unmanned lunar landing."

Yes I am aware that up until the first alleged moon landing the Soviets were thoroughly kicking our ass in the space race. So why did they give up when the US beat them to the moon? The US did not give up when the soviets launched the first satellite, launched the first man into space, and performed the first space walk. But the US beats the Soviets to the moon and the Soviets decide pull the plug on all future moon missions? If they couldn't be there first was no reason to go at all? Is that what you are saying?

Mr. Rational said :

"The Soviets had the N-1 rocket which was a competitor to Apollo. But they did not have von Braun, and they did have a policy of hushing up their failures. They had some spectacular failures, which is why Apollo made it first to the moon."

Again why not be second to the moon? The Soviets proved that they were quite capable of launching men into orbit. The Soviets detonated the largest hydrogen bomb in the history of mankind, they developed the Mig fighter jets and they even had a Doomsday Device that guaranteed an automatic nuclear strike against the US in case the Soviet Union was crippled by a surprise US first strike. As far as not having Von Braun you are right but the Soviets had his equal in Sergey Korolyov. Korolyov was considered by many at NASA to be the father of practical astronautics. He oversaw the Suptnik and Vostok programs which pushed the Soviets far out ahead of the United States in the space race. Unfortunately he died unexpectedly in 1966.

"After losing the Moon race the Soviets decided to be best in space stations. They've done quite well."

So in your opinion the Soviets decided there was nothing to be gleaned from landing on the moon? They essentially shit canned their moon project to develop LOW EARTH ORBIT space stations? That's a pretty weak argument right there.

So CAL Snowman said...

Gwinnett Gladiator said :

"With regard to the moon landing silliness, here's a dose of reality

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_loUDS4c3Cs"

---------------------

I'll see your dose of reality and raise you actual NASA approved footage of the last Apollo lunar lift off of Dec. 14, 1972.

Apollo 17 Last Men On The Moon Lunar Liftoff

Mr. Rational said...

So in your opinion the Soviets decided there was nothing to be gleaned from landing on the moon?

If they couldn't be first, and had plausible deniability, why not make it look like there was never a race?

The Soviets did send Lunokhod robot rovers, which spent a lot more research time than the Apollo astronauts did.

They essentially shit canned their moon project to develop LOW EARTH ORBIT space stations?

Of course I think it, because it's what they did.  They never launched a manned mission even to lunar orbit.  LEO space stations have (had) possible military applications, the moon doesn't.

Bogolyubski said...

Vicio Malo said...
OFF TOPIC...Don't Bite the Hand that Feeds You. Today fast food employees walk out on their jobs in protest wanting 15 bux an hour. Excuse me is this a new career choice? It would be very simple to turn fast food chains into giant vending machines. Enter your menu choices on a keypad, Order prepared, bagged and delivered without a person to person encounter. Romney was laughed at when he was amazed at the efficiency of Wawa's technique. Keep pushing and there will not be an entry level job left in the US. I do not like the idea of negroes touching my food anyway. I'm not big on fast food. If there ever was a job that commanded minimum wage, it is the fast food industry. Good luck with that "strike" if you missed work today and you worked for me...you'd be huntin' a new job...VM

It's not as OT as you may think. It's an error to think that Mittens the Banksta in Underoos is anything but an enemy. Ditto for Mickey-Dees and all the other fast-food establishments - all loyal party members who endorse BRA. The sooner folks like the owners of Mickey-Dees, Mittens, and all the other assorted members of the professional (as opposed to the amateur) looting class are destroyed, the better. If their pets now turn upon them and demand 25/hour to flip burgers, so what? We don't have a dog in that fight. If they turn upon each other, that's less time, money and energy they'll have to pursue our extermination.

So CAL Snowman said...

@ Mr. Rational

I suppose I should be more clear. I don't think there ever was a "moon race" of any sort. I think that the Soviets very early on realized that sending men to the moon was impossible given the technological limitations of the day. I think that the Soviets were almost as full of shit as the Americans regarding the moon. I mean just look at this picture of the Luna 15 lunar probe, it looks like a god damned joke :

Luna 15

The Saturn V rocket also has an interesting history to say the least. NASA launched ONLY 2 unmanned test flights of the Saturn V rocket (Apollo 4 and 6) before using it to send a manned mission to orbit the moon (Apollo 8). What made this even more shocking was the utter failure of the Apollo 6 launch. On just the second launch of the Saturn V rocket (Apollo 6) major problems occurred. During the first stage burn the rocket suffered severe pogo oscillations. During the second stage burn engines 2 and 3 shut down, throwing the rocket off course.

Instead of using the first manned Saturn V rocket to launch astronauts into low earth orbit, NASA used it to launch astronauts to orbit the moon. Doesn't this seem a bit odd given the failure of Apoll0 6? Wouldn't NASA want to be sure they fixed the problems with the rocket before they attempted to use it to send our boys into lunar orbit? I mean the boys at NASA didn't even run another unmanned launch of a Saturn V after the utter failure of Apollo 6. That is insane!

Apollo 6

Apollo 8

Discard said...

If we had faked the moon landings, how did we convince the Soviets, who would have had no trouble tracking them, not to tell on us?

Regarding the matter of sending men up in not quite trustworthy spacecraft: The risk to the lives of space crews is irrelevant. What's a few more dead servicemen when we were losing over a hundred a week in Viet Nam? Astronauts chose to take the risks, some have died, and some have had very close calls. That's why we see them as heroic. There were only so many Saturn Five rockets that were going to be built, only so many opportunities to make the landings, and the engineers were going to make them count. Pass up a moon landing just to check out some system or other on the launch vehicle? Nope. Check out the system on the ground and blast off. The decision-making adults of that time had been in WW2 or Korea, and knew that death was part of the equation. I cannot imagine JFK or LBJ or Nixon saying, "We're not going to the moon because three men were burned up yesterday."

As for the Luna 15 probe, it looks like a piece of machinery, not a joke. Ever look under the hood of a car? Or inside a wind-up watch? Since the moon has no atmosphere, there's no need for any sort of streamlining. Pure mechanical function is all that matters.

AnalogMan said...

Vicio Malo said...

I am sticking to 3 sentence posts here. 75% of my posts are never posted.

I feel your pain, VM. Paul, can we have some commenting guidelines? We all recognise that you're the host here, and it's your prerogative to delete commnets that go off topic or breach good taste, but some apparently innocuous comments never get through moderation.

For instance, on this thread I posted a comment in response to Unknown's assertion that the moon landing was a hoax. I was very circumspect, neither linking to nor offering any argument, pro or con. I merely linked to a picture of the landing site and pointed out one detail that I find troubling. I have no dog in this fight, and if anybody can offer a reasonable explanation, I'll accept it.

My comment was rejected, yet you've published comments that link to advocacy sites, and arguments for both sides of the issue.

What am I doing wrong, please?

Anonymous said...

You must be black or on acid.Thousands of people worked on the moon missions.You think it was fake?At that time it was easier to goto the moon than to fake it.Also,don't you think the Russians would have accused us of fakery if there was the slightest evidence of fakery?I suggest you really think it through.

Jay in DC said...

Lorraine said...

I am trying to hang in here but sometimes its hard. I have to say that there are days between reading this site, Amren, Council of Concerned Conservative Citizens, Countenance, Pioneer Preppy, etc. that I get really depressed.


Don't do that! That is THEE goal. To simply have you roll over and die as a depressed Euro descended person with no hope.

Better to die on your feet than live on your knees.

You are already 10 steps ahead of everyone else because you have functional eyes. What you do now is play the waiting game but prepare.

You've taken first steps towards leaving our crumbling dystopian nightmare cities.

Second step is to get out to areas where politically incorrect peoples live and congregate.

Third step is to also look at the positive side. There seems to be a tangible counter movement starting. I am seeing more and more Whites openly calling out this madness on almost every mainstream website I visit. This was not the case even just a few years ago.

Last step, take a breath, and unplug for a while. I also cannot read about it 24x7 and it is not healthy. Do other things, recharge your fighting spirit, come back to it later. Beleive me BRA ain't going ANYWHERE in the short term.

Lastly, on every job application you fill out from now until the end of time do NOT mark White. Mark Hispanic. Hispanic peoples get preferential treatment and can be as white as a lily. Good old Zimmy displayed this for us.

It's Time said...

The two thugs in Charlottesville that got beat by the two students they were trying to rob; simple answer: white rage. Stand by, more to come.

m said...

So CAL Snowman wrote:

I think that the Soviets very early on realized that sending men to the moon was impossible given the technological limitations of the day.

You're quite wrong about that.  Even century-old technology was far more capable than you appear to believe it was; to give just one example, Babbage's Analytical Engine was recently built and verified to perform as designed.

just look at this picture of the Luna 15 lunar probe, it looks like a god damned joke

It looks very similar to Surveyor 1.  There are some obvious differences in design philosophy such as the square thermal enclosures on the US probes.  The Luna probe also has fuel tanks and hardware for the sample-return rocket.  Otherwise form follows function.

On just the second launch of the Saturn V rocket (Apollo 6) major problems occurred. During the first stage burn the rocket suffered severe pogo oscillations. During the second stage burn engines 2 and 3 shut down, throwing the rocket off course.

These problems were cured by helium-pressurizing cavities in the fuel system to eliminate resonances and fixing the igniter lines.  They had to encounter this problem just once, and it was fixed.

If the whole program was a fake, there would have been no need for engineering fixes.  The pogo proved that the rocket was real.

Instead of using the first manned Saturn V rocket to launch astronauts into low earth orbit, NASA used it to launch astronauts to orbit the moon. Doesn't this seem a bit odd given the failure of Apoll0 6?

What you're missing is that the LEM was behind schedule (another thing that wouldn't happen in a faked program), but they had a Saturn V ready to go.  Why not send a mission to do some lunar mapping for the landings to follow?  The mass budget for the LEM could go toward high-resolution cameras and film in the service module.  Pull the film magazines and stow them in the CM on the way home and you're golden.

If the moon landings were faked, does that mean that the Apollo 8 earthrise photo was faked too?  That instant icon was unlike anything from art and is recognizably authentic to this day.  This means that men with cameras were going around the moon in 1968.  It's a very small step from going around the moon to landing on it and taking off again; it is far easier than getting into earth orbit in the first place.  Why people cannot believe this, I can only attribute to inability to do math.

I mean the boys at NASA didn't even run another unmanned launch of a Saturn V after the utter failure of Apollo 6.

Utter failure?  It flew and achieved orbit, with all stages firing.  Even the un-fixed SV didn't blow up, and the CM had an escape tower; if the post-pogo-fix rocket failed, the crew could still get out.  If NASA was going to launch another all-up vehicle, there was no reason not to get some useful science out of a successful launch.

Part of BRA is inflating any Black accomplishment (however small), inventing false Black ones and denying true White ones.  Denying the moon landings is part of BRA and furthers its ends.  Never forget that.

Jay in DC said...

Oh also, re: POSTING here on SBPDL. Don't take it as personally as you are. If you overrrun the length of post that blogger.com uses your post will sometimes go into cyberspace. I'd recommend using the PREVIEW button and also doing a copy of your post just in case you overrun. Then you can break it into parts.

Anonymous said...

The wheel has only been independently invented in two places: The New World natives and the Fertile Crescent. Europe adopted the wheel from middle eastern peoples.

Anonymous said...

OT but did anyone else see the story about some 'human rights group' getting all bent out of shape over a Dunkin Donuts commercial in Thailand because they used black face? The CEO over there essentially told them to shove it up their ass and they wouldn't be complaining if they painted someone white. Story made my day!

It's Time said...


"Anonymous Jay in DC said...

Lorraine said...

I am trying to hang in here but sometimes its hard. I have to say that there are days between reading this site, Amren, Council of Concerned Conservative Citizens, Countenance, Pioneer Preppy, etc. that I get really depressed."

I did too. Just had to table it for a while. Truth really does hurt whether it's being said to your face or you are reading it on the internet. I am thankful that I found this truthful and well informed website where I can keep up with issues and vent when needed.
Want a laugh? I actually joined facebook for about 5 minutes (actually for 3 months) and I just could not stand most people that sent friend requests. Hearing from old highschool friends, and then reading everything they are involved in. Know what I found out? Except for three people--no one would ever commit to talk the truth about what's going on. They stuck their heads in the sand for fear of it looking like they were racist. If I put a picture of a goofy dog and kid up--I would get a lot of likes. If I put up something from Daily Kenn--absolutely ZER0. I tested this theory for a little while and then I unplugged from facebook. Not worth it. I just hope there are more of us that are on SPBDL out there than the "guilted white wimps".

Anonymous said...

Pushkin is of obvious African ancestry in most portraits.

Really? Only if you're going by some ridiculous "one drop" rule. I've seen paintings of him from when he was a kid to adulthood and he would be classified as Caucasian so don't try to claim him as a Bantu which is the model we use for a member of the negro race, just as Mongol is used for the Far East races and the Caucasus for a Caucasian. There is always diversity within races and these models are just typical or average members of the particular race or grouping. And btw, I've been to those areas of Europe called "Asia Minor" and the people are of the Caucasian type even in Armenia and Georgia.

So CAL Snowman said...

@ M

Of COURSE the Saturn V rockets were real. That is not my contention. My contention is that the Saturn V rocket was not used to send our boys to the moon. Engineers needed to fix the rocket because it did send men into space (low earth orbit), just not to the moon. Also during the failed flight of Apollo 6 the stage 3 burner failed to re-ignite. This would have been quite a detriment in getting to the moon. But hey no need to run another unmanned test flight to make sure ALL 3 STAGES of the rocket worked correctly (despite a 50% failure rate). Nope the boys at NASA "got this" let's just go to the moon. Ludicrous. Absolutely ludicrous.

Discard said :

" I cannot imagine JFK or LBJ or Nixon saying, "We're not going to the moon because three men were burned up yesterday."

I can because the public outcry would be very loud. If NASA kept losing astronauts due to faulty equipment, the public would wonder what the hell was going on. It's also funny that we never lost an Apollo astronaut but we have lost quite a few Space Shuttle astronauts. It seems the safety record of barely tested space vehicles in the 1960's and 1970's trumps the safety record of the modern shuttle program.

Mr. Rational said...

Of COURSE the Saturn V rockets were real. That is not my contention. My contention is that the Saturn V rocket was not used to send our boys to the moon. Engineers needed to fix the rocket because it did send men into space (low earth orbit), just not to the moon.

The Saturn 1B was sufficient to send the Apollo CSM into LEO.  The Saturn V booster stage was enough to put the second and third stages well above the atmosphere at 11,000 ft/sec.  11,000 fps is roughly the difference between earth-orbit velocity and lunar-injection velocity, so the Saturn V was enough to send the CSM+LEM to the moon, no?

Once you're on a lunar flyby track, about half a mile per second braking maneuver puts you in lunar orbit.  About 1 mile/second takes you from orbit to soft landing, and another 1 mile/second goes from surface back to orbit.  Last, 1/2 mile/sec kicks out of LLO on course back to Earth.  You can sum up the delta-V's for the various pieces (CSM, LEM descent stage, LEM ascent stage) but I won't bother.  Compared to the job of getting off Earth in the first place, it's a piece of cake.  What do you think the engineering show-stopper was?

during the failed flight of Apollo 6 the stage 3 burner failed to re-ignite. This would have been quite a detriment in getting to the moon. But hey no need to run another unmanned test flight to make sure ALL 3 STAGES of the rocket worked correctly (despite a 50% failure rate).

To be accurate, on Apollo 6, 3 out of the 6 J-2 engines had failures of the fuel lines to the igniter chambers and the chambers burned through due to lack of hydrogen cooling.  This problem was hypothesized due to the measured drop in performance, verified to be due to metal fatigue and failure following a "buzz" in the flexible bellows section of the hydrogen line when operating in vacuum, and was fixed by replacing the bellows with a loop of tubing.  The new line did not have the "buzz" problem when carrying hydrogen at the required flow rate and temperature, so the engineers knew it was safe to fly.  They did not have to fly a whole rocket to test the new lines.

The "pogo" was similarly verified to be due to vibration modes in the vehicle and fuel/oxidizer lines.  The fix could similarly be verified by applying the appropriate pulsations to fluids under pressure and flow in equivalent lines and showing that the oscillation was properly damped.  Again, no need to fly a whole rocket.

Last, Apollo 8 was not a landing mission, it was a mapping mission.  If the rocket failed, the crew would still come back (escape tower at low altitude, abort via shutdown and CSM engine burn beyond that) and the only loss would be some film.  There was no reason not to fly it, and every reason TO fly it.  It verified the fixes, returned a lot of good lunar photos, and got the iconic earthrise pic... or are you saying that was faked?

I can because the public outcry would be very loud. If NASA kept losing astronauts due to faulty equipment, the public would wonder what the hell was going on.

When thousands were dying every year in Vietnam, there wasn't any great outcry about a few astronauts.  The Apollo 204 fire caused a redesign of the CM and a revolution in safety practices; it did NOT terminate the Apollo program.

It's also funny that we never lost an Apollo astronaut

1/27/1967.  Gus Grissom, Roger Chaffee, Edward White (plus several technicians who did their best trying to open the CM hatch with the single tool they had).  The program went on.

Jay in DC said...

So CAL Snowman...

I consider you a good "friend" in the interwebz way, but M just desconstructed your wacky shit quite nicely with backing engineering evidence here.

Secondarily, the Moon Landing Hoax has been destroyed time and again since the 70s and beyond, any White who believes this still.

I have a good friend that works for an "ABC" agency. He could be the next Ed Snowden if he was so inclined, he is not. But in spite of knowing everything about espionage on planet earth, the corruption of the gub'mint he is employed by, et. al. He still firmly believes in the Jew Constructed Sky Fairy from Circa 2000 BC unto present. A guy who can build a rifle like EMP weapon, has access to top secret clearance intelligence, etc. sounds just like you.

I fucking MARVEL at how deluded some Highly Intelligent™ people let themselves become. A mystery...

Mr. Rational said...

FYI, "m" was me screwing up an auto-complete in the Name field.

Anonymous said...

The wheel has only been independently invented in two places: The New World natives and the Fertile Crescent. Europe adopted the wheel from middle eastern peoples.

In the time period you're referring to that area was a Caucasian area and so was the mid East, Egypt and N Africa. 10k years ago the Negro race was a tiny group on the WEST coast of Africa (3x the size of the US) and there was an 800 mile wide desert barrier dividing it and before it became desert it was a savannah which is even more dangerous due to predators who hunted there. The minute Negro group was basically just clinging to the coast and went nowhere. It was only after thousands of years of a world population explosion (the cause is not known) that they began to go into new areas and eventually about 1k BC were found in the East.

And as far as the New World we don't know which racial group was here first. Imagine archaeologists finding the ruins of Detroit in the forest thousands of years from today and believing that the primitive Negro inhabitant's ancestors built the buildings now in ruins.

Anonymous said...

I can because the public outcry would be very loud. If NASA kept losing astronauts due to faulty equipment, the public would wonder what the hell was going on.



People may have been concerned if it happened all the time but no one was as pussified as people today or would stop something valuable due to some fatalities.
After thw Wright Bros. got their flying machine in the air for 10 sec. men were working on developing it and many died in crashes and accidents but it didn't stop anyone.

And look at how those Tuskeegee airman killed at the nazies and won WWII :o) We didn't even need the RAF dambusters and their racist leader and dog named Nigger.

Anonymous said...

@August 28, 2013 at 4:38 PM

Let me make a correction. Pushkin was not 1/4 Negroid but 1/8 since it was his grandfather who was 1/2 Negroid.

AnalogMan said...

The wheel has only been independently invented in two places: The New World natives and the Fertile Crescent. Europe adopted the wheel from middle eastern peoples.

Wheels in ancient America? Do you have a reference for that? A quick search returns only Medicine Wheels, which are not wheels at all, and the Book of Mormon, which is hardly reliable.

AnalogMan said...

Mr Rational said:

Even century-old technology was far more capable than you appear to believe it was; to give just one example, Babbage's Analytical Engine was recently built and verified to perform as designed.

Bad example. Babbage didn't build his Analytical engine precisely because the technology didn't exist to do so.

You seem to have done your homework on rocket engines, so I'm going to try this one more time. Please, moderator, I beg your indulgence - I really want to know.

Photos of the landing site show undisturbed soil beneath the Eagle. It looks as if it was gently lowered by a crane. How is this possible?

Mr. Rational said...

Babbage didn't build his Analytical engine precisely because the technology didn't exist to do so.

The completed portion of Babbage's Difference Engine #1 survives and works to this day.  The Analytical Engine would have required no better technology.

Photos of the landing site show undisturbed soil beneath the Eagle. It looks as if it was gently lowered by a crane. How is this possible?

<rolls eyes>  Not THIS again!  Let me Google that for you:

"The fact of the matter is ... the Apollo 11 lander's engines were throttled back just before landing, and it did not hover long enough to form a crater or kick up much dust, the Smithsonian's Launius said."

The LEM was hovering briefly at 1/6 G, there was no surrounding atmosphere to be entrained by the rocket plume and throw up more matter, and the regolith itself is quite cohesive (look at the boot prints).

Here is the video of the Apollo 11 landing shot from the LEM.  You'll notice the boulder field Armstrong stayed aloft to get past.  At about 8 minutes you can see dust starting to spray away under the impinging exhaust jet.  It's not a huge amount, and you wouldn't expect it to do much more than wear down the high spots like stones and the rims of micro-craters.  That's pretty much what you see.

Search for your own conspiracy-debunking stuff next time.  It's been out there since before the Web, you have no excuses.

Anonymous said...

Nobody told you to come here.You like the US Dollar,no? Why would you leave Canada to live in a sewer/ghetto area anyway?

Anonymous said...

The space shuttle was a piece of shit before it was even built.It was designed in the early 1970's and was obsolete by the time it was built.After the Challenger disaster the shuttle should have been shitcanned.We should have built that moon city,it could have been done.The shuttle was a big waste of time,energy,and human lives.Richard Craniun

AnalogMan said...

Mr Rational:

Thank you. No need to get snippy.

Mr. Rational said...

No need to get snippy.

On the contrary.  We should no more tolerate the conspiracy theory of the Apollo project than we should tolerate the "witchcraft theory" of Black racial dysfunction.  The truth is out there, and in the age of the Internet there are no excuses.

Anonymous said...

"Mr. Rational said...

No need to get snippy.

On the contrary. We should no more tolerate the conspiracy theory of the Apollo project than we should tolerate the "witchcraft theory" of Black racial dysfunction. The truth is out there, and in the age of the Internet there are no excuses."

Hahaha. Many blacks are dysfunctional. Where is the error in that? You have black mothers having offspring by different fathers who, in many cases could care less about what happens to their offspring. How does having a dysfunctional family make for good children? Think of your own behavior. How many times have you had unprotected sex (man or woman)? Have you bothered to check up on the woman a month later to see if she's pregnant? Have you bothered to inquire if the male partner has any STDs or to tell him your status as a potential carrier of STDs? If the answer is no then you're irresponsible. Are you gainfully employed? If yes then good for you. If not then why not? Most employers aren't seeking people with an attitude. Do you present yourself as having a very large chip on your shoulder to prospective employers? They don't want to deal with your attitude and won't hire you.

Your web site calls racism one of the problems facing blacks. Might be time to figure out where the most damaging racism comes from (hint it isn't whitey) and to accept personal responsibility for it.

As to the Apollo missions, they were impressive, got the job done and we learned much in the process. The Shuttle missions? Take a look at NASA tech briefs from the early 80's. Much of the content was devoted to fixing issues on the Shuttles (i.e. how to change a damage heat tile). The Shuttle should have been the jumping off point for something innovative. As it stands now the social welfare system sucks big $$$$$ from actual research into a bottomless pit.

john lord said...

Except Russia never really fell. They merely wanted you to think that. Read some of the works ofRussian KGB defector Anatoly Golitsyn. Now their back in full force and their leaders seem to care more about the welfare of their countrymen than our so called elected representitives.