Tuesday, October 2, 2012

"Killing, killing is the solution.": Time for a Real "Redeker Plan" in 99% Black Englewood?

"...There are people and places untouched by [the nation's] prosperity." So said President Bill Clinton back in 1999, while giving a speech in virtually 100 percent black Englewood, one of the 77 official communities in Chicago. 
“Killing, killing is the solution.” No, it's the "Redeker Plan"

The reason that "prosperity" doesn't exist in almost exclusively black Englewood might not be properly articulated by the former president, but a resident of the community put into words the unmentionable point that illustrates why white people [99 percent of the population in 1930] vacated the area. 


Those words: When asked why violence troubles Englewood, a black gang member stated there's no solution to violence, only to then switch his answer and say, "Killing, killing is the solution." [Killing Is The Solution,’ Gang Member Tells Walter Jacobson, CBS Chicago, 9-27-2012]:

 Gangbangers in Chicago: What makes them tick, what are they thinking? CBS 2’s Walter Jacobson sat down with gang members in Chicago’s troubled Englewood neighborhood to try to find some answers. Some of the responses he received were not encouraging. “There’s no solution to the violence,” one gang member tells him. 
“Killing, killing is the solution.” Jacobson asked the young man if he would kill personally, if he had to. “I’ve never killed before, but if I had a gun in my possession,” he said. Jacobson says he has been walking the blocks for many years, but the state of despair never changes – poverty, sticks and stains. The gang members do not like the state of affairs any more than anyone else. 
“We’ve got to eat. We want to. We want money. We want to get fresh, we want fresh J’s almost every day. We want all that,” another young man said. But where do they get the money they need? The young man answered bluntly. 
“Rob, steal and kill. That’s the only way. We didn’t grow up in Beverly Hills. We don’t get it handed to us,” he said. “We ain’t living in Hyde Park,” added a third young man. The home of the University of Chicago is only a couple of miles away from Englewood – geographically, at least. 
But given the state of their impoverished Englewood neighborhood, where is the money they can get? “Selling drugs,” a young man replied. “In our neighborhood, I ain’t going to lie to you. That’s where the money comes from.” 
 The gang members also said they are at war with the Chicago Police Department. “The police hate us,” a young man said. 
“Every time they ride past us, they shoot us down and do all that. Do what you want to do, I don’t care about you all, keep riding. Who are you all? We’re not scare of you all. I’ll fight you too. Take that badge off.” 
But he says the police cannot catch them or exact any consequences. “I laugh at the police,” he said. 
“They’re a joke to me.” And where would the young men like to be in 10 years? One of them replied, “in a mansion, with a lot of cars, and a lot of women.” Another said, “I just hope I’m still living.”
The state of Englewood, a place prosperity never will touch because of the current people who occupy the city, is in such a horrific state that a weekend when no one is killed is considered a victory. Three writers for the Chicago Sun-Times joined police to report on what these men experience on your typical weekend in Englewood, a place where the young black residents have admitted they are "a joke". [Ride-along: No murders, one shooting makes it a ‘good day’ in EnglewoodBy MARK KONKOL, FRANK MAIN  and KIM JANSSEN, Chicago Sun Times, 9-22-2012]
Toriano Clinton rolls up to a curbside memorial for a dead gang member and slows his SUV. 

“Hey, Pretty Boy,” a middle-aged drug dealer calls to the plainclothes Englewood District cop. 
Clinton smiles, even though he hates the nickname. 
“Everything cool, cuz?” he says. 
The dealer nods. 
Throughout his shift on this hot summer night, Clinton will go through the same exchange a dozen times. 
Police work in one of Chicago’s most dangerous neighborhoods isn’t only about chasing the bad guys and locking them up. 
It’s also about connecting with the people you see every day — even the bad guys.
It’s about being seen.
 
It’s about doing the mundane things that police Supt. Garry McCarthy is counting on to keep shootings and other serious crimes from happening in the first place: Shooing loiterers off the street corners. Busting up sidewalk dice games. Clearing teenagers out of raucous house parties. 
After 11 years in Englewood, Clinton knows the complicated patchwork of gang boundaries and the bosses who control the street crime. 
On the street, the crooks and sweet old ladies alike recognize Clinton by his good looks. He’s linebacker-buff with a movie-star smile and dreadlocks tied back in a ponytail that bounces behind him as he moves. 
“I’ve built a rapport with a lot of gang members,” he says. “They’ll give me information.” 
The one he called “cuz?” 
“I arrested that guy before,” he says. “I trust no one, even though our conversation was friendly.” 
When McCarthy came in with Mayor Rahm Emanuel, the new superintendent disbanded the old specialized units of black-uniformed officers who used to be sent out en masse to hot spots of violence. Instead, McCarthy put his emphasis on beat cops and tactical officers like Clinton. 
He boosted their numbers in Englewood, and he is making sure they have up-to-the-minute information on the 100 well-armed gang factions in the district. The goal: to prevent retaliatory shootings. 
Englewood’s reputation for violence is well-deserved. This is where three members of Oscar winner Jennifer Hudson’s family were gunned down in 2008 and where Officer Alex Valadez was fatally shot while on duty a year later. More recently, teen rapper Joseph “JoJo” Coleman was killed earlier this month in a drive-by shooting possibly connected to an Internet feud with another rapper.
This year, though, the number of murders in Englewood has plummeted by 30 percent, even as the number of killings citywide is up 27 percent....
On this weekend, there are 70 officers and supervisors working each shift in Englewood. They include officers from other districts who volunteered to work on their day off under an overtime initiative targeting high-crime districts.... 
Officers responded to reports of four robberies, one burglary and one stolen car.
They also made three narcotics arrests and responded to 16 batteries, 10 reports of criminal damage, six thefts, two reports of criminal trespass, one sexual assault, one weapons violation, one call of a “deceptive practice,” one liquor-law violation, one offense involving a child and six other reports that didn’t fit any specific category.
 
There were no murders.

This is the reality of the Black Undertow. This is why "urban" areas have blight; this is why white people chose to move to the suburbs, free of the type of criminal element that infects areas that are majority black; this is why Chicago Public Schools (CPS) have such high-degrees of "extreme racial isolation" among the student body -- it's dangerous to be around the byproduct of black male sexual encounters. 

And never forget that the 1992 Supreme Court decision in Freeman v. Pitts returned this verdict, "Where resegregation is a product not of state action, but of private choices, it does not have constitutional implications. It is beyond the authority and beyond the practical ability of the federal courts to try to counteract these kinds of continuous and massive demographic shifts."

The state has no authority to change the racial balance of a school, nor can it take action to mandate segregation. Thus, white flight is constitutional; however, there exists no state-sanctioned manner [yet] to protect these white flight communities.

The plight of Englewood's near 100 percent black is not our concern. Only the containment of the problems they cause (as realized by the Chicago Sun Times article, the required police force needed 24/7 to maintain the peace there are only going to escalate) are our concern. For Englewood is but a microcosm of all areas around America that are monochromatically black, and where the black population found there is "...untouched by [the nation's] prosperity."


There is only one solution to the criminal problem found in Englewood (and the problem of Black crime that threatens the future financial stability of Chicago): a real-life application of the Redeker Plan.
If you've read Max Brooks novel World War Z: An Oral History of the Zombie War, you know what this plan did:
The Redeker Plan (commonly known as "The South African war plan") is a strategy employed in the fictional world of World War Z, a novel written by Max Brooks. The Redeker Plan is essentially the intentional sacrifice of a large portion of the population in order to save a population in a more defensible or important location.
Outside of the "Dredd" option, the future will see the real-life introduction of a "Redeker Plan" to deal with the problem of black crime in Englewood -- and by extension, all those areas that have been distressed by the Visible Black Hand of Economics.

105 comments:

City resident said...

People like this Jacobson always ask the same question over and over again, acting agonized over black violence. The answer, which eludes him, is that it is the normal state of affairs. It's just a form of tribal warfare that's been going on for a long time.
Again, for them it's the normal state of affairs. Asking them to change is like asking a zebra to transform itself into a horse. It can't happen. Things can only be quieted down for awhile, only to flare up again later.

Anonymous said...

Violence is inherent to the Negro race... I'm convinced of it. Whether in America or Africa, it's always the same...violence, violence, and more violence.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/03/world/africa/at-least-25-are-killed-at-nigerian-college.html?hp&_r=0

Mr. Rational said...

However did you miss THIS gem:

the number of murders in Englewood has plummeted by 30 percent, even as the number of killings citywide is up 27 percent....

They downplay the explosion of killings, likely caused by their push against criminals moving them into new territory where they fight turf wars all over again.  The drop in crime in Englewood is the only thing.  As the young, criminal Blacks move out under police pressure, gentrification will begin and the real-estate moguls will make a whole lot of money.  Meanwhile, the wealth of people unfortunate enough to be in the path of the oozing undertow will lose their shirts.

It's the elite using the undertow to destroy and expropriate the wealth of the middle.

Anonymous said...

True, 1. Warfare is the adult pastime in hunter gatherer societies that is adaptive for them in a way warfare in agricultural societies is not. They - the h-g er's - want to kill certain individuals with an intensity modern rational warfare does not have. Did you noticed the strange stupid obsessive way the USA went about "hunting" OBL? Multiply that by a million times for the number of grievances involved and divide by a million for the significance of the conflict and I think you understand the black urban underclass mentality. Every little neighborhood spat is a world shaker for them and needs to be resolved lethally. Without these conflicts the blacks in the USA would die off from obesity and addictions. They are too distracted by the conflicts to plan a life.

Anonymous said...

The take over of our great cities wii continue as long as the tribes are well fed and have a continuing source of funding. Imagine a cargo ship full of grain abandoned and adrift at sea with a few mice aboard,the population of mice would continue to grow into the millions and then the grain would eventually run out and the mice would begin to feed on themselves and the infestation would be over. Unfortunately our infestation is not confined to a ship, so when we quit feeding the tribes and the white tax money runs out they will migrate to feed off us.

Anonymous said...

Just by its very tenets of violence, illiteracy, and illegitimacy, black culture is a vastly inferior culture to other cultures. Is it any wonder why the phenomenon of white flight exists?

Anonymous said...

Ex-Lincolnite here:

How enlightening. My question is what the hell were Jennifer Hudson's parents doing in Englewood, Chicago?

This is why I advocate the Redeker Plan for our inner cities. I know that won't be popular, but really the only people who will be left there are the DWL's and the orcs they profess to love.

Increasingly, the only defense for white people is going to be migration from the coasts back to the interior of the country. People where I live are nearly 100% white, and we are more than a tank of gas away from the closest infestation of coons.

In the coming weeks, I think the racial balance of the country will come unhinged. Really, if Obama is in office, you white people arming yourselves can never have enough ammo. You need to get the hell out. If we could develop containment plans, I am sure that the mass of the public would support it, but of Course any race solution is always beat down by Conservatism, inc. I see no real solution to this problem other than getting the hell away from the blacks.

tg moderator said...

Section 8 housing vouchers have been a disaster for the white American middle class. Instead of a Redeker plan where upper class whites retreat to a fortified safe zone and sacrifice the rest of the whites to the zombie (black) mob, how about a return to giant housing projects in da hood? We could use FEMA trailers to keep costs down since any project that is built is soon destroyed anyway.

Zimri said...

I saw a dichotomy between the two gangbangers. One was looking forward to the future with fast cars and a harem of women. The other was looking forward to... a future, any future.

The former one, I have no use for. But I get the impression the latter one would rather be doing something other than dealing crack.

We need a system to send the sociopathic gangbangers swiftly to the rope. If more gangbangers were decorating the alleyways of Chicago, other blacks in that city would find value in doing useful work - on the docks, perhaps, or maybe (before it gets to that point) spending more care in the schools we're paying so much for.

countenance said...

While I read the article, I was reminded of what various relatives and older folk kept telling me when I was little. I didn't fully understand what they meant by this phrase until I got older:

Poor people have poor ways.

Anonymous said...

“Rob, steal and kill. That’s the only way. We didn’t grow up in Beverly Hills. We don’t get it handed to us,”

Because honest hard work, and teach ones self a valuable skill set is unknown to these savages. They cant even rob, steal or kill properly. For a bunch of self proclaimed theives, you would think they would try to get a job on Wall Street. And if they think they can get ahead by killing, why cant they figure out how to properly shoot a handgun, such as holding it without cocking it 45-90 degrees to the side, or shooting two handed?

Anonymous said...

"This is why I advocate the Redeker Plan for our inner cities. I know that won't be popular, but really the only people who will be left there are the DWL's and the orcs they profess to love."

Not everyone in Chicago is a DWL, i'm in the Rogers Park neighborhood. I wish I could move up to Wisconsin but its difficult to find a IT job there (outside of 40+% black Milwaukee) that doesnt involve being a phone jockey with no hope of internal advancement. Anyone know of any large companies (outside of Milwaukee) that need 3rd level client support people besides Kholer?

Zenster said...

More fuel to fire - inadvertently - was recently applied by the Atlanta Journal Constitution, with writer Jeffry Scott sticking strictly to "Journalism 101" in a story on the great divide between SAT scores produced by the students in North Fulton versus those of South Fulton [emphasis added]

As Daffy Duck is fond of noting, "pronoun trouble!"; or in this case, descriptor trouble, as with Jeffry Scott's so-called "great divide".

There isn't any divide. There is simply the present—and quite possibly permanently—insurmountable intelligence gap which separates Blacks from Whites.

To a vast extent, whatever controllable aspects of this gap remain totally unaddressed by Blacks and a huge percentage of the harm being done by this disparity is self-inflicted. The fear of, or refusal to, "act White" represents a constant auto-exclusion by Blacks from nearly all of civilization's benefits; save where lunatic, bleeding heart PCMC (Politically Correct Multi-Culturalist) politicians and charities attempt to defeat evolutionary outcome.

And defeat evolution they do to the point where some of those who are most unfit for survival manage to thrive when their collective fates should have been being barred outside the village gates when winter arrived.

There is little or no job growth in majority non-white neighborhoods.

Whoa, Nellie! Let's spend several million dollars on assembling a blue ribbon panel to explain whether there's any connection between this and the dearth of Nobel Prizes being awarded Blacks—including most minorities in general—with respect to discovery and, more importantly, technological innovation. A national or world map correlating Nobel Prizes awarded by region could prove most instructive at this point.

[to be continued]

Zenster said...

The onus on the residents of North Fulton to keep alive the economic engine powering the entire region is dramatic.

I'd consider substituting the word "enraging" for "dramatic". But that's just me.

A study conducted by the Institute of Race and Poverty at the University of Minnesota Law School, indicates that a disproportionate share of the region's poor and moderate-income residents live near the southern region of Metro Atlanta where job growth is the slowest.

This crap's gotta end. It's not "where job growth is the slowest" but where entrepreneurship, transparency and crime-fighting are at a minimum. Of course, perish the effing thought that anyone might phrase it in those terms. Doing so might exclude all opportunities to BLAME WHITEY.

Less hand wringing and more finger pointing, please.

"Blight," "distressed neighborhoods," and empty business districts are the hallmark of an all-black area. Know what else is hallmark of an all-black area? Ethnocentric politicians who were elected specifically to defend black interests

Hoping that these race baiting, wannabe warlord poverty pimp "Ethnocentric politicians" will successfully "defend black interests" is like bringing a knife to a gun fight. Only BRA ensures the marginal survival of these ill-prepared and incompetent goons. Affirmative Action, minority hiring quotas and SBA minority loans are nothing less than bullet-proof vests that allow the survival of such poorly equipped groups.

"All this does is continue the drumbeat to separate the county," Hausmann said.

There's some consolation that Whites are finally learning to read the "drumbeat" of those jungle drums.

Sandy Springs stands on the verge of becoming the second-largest city in metro Atlanta.

Do you mean to say that the place which has its city hall in a strip mall and outsources most of its municipal infrastructure functions to viable commercial corporate entities is "becoming the second-largest city in metro Atlanta"? Quelle Horreur!

Does anyone think that Black politicians and voters might carry away from this fact some sort of object lesson?

[crickets]

Unincorporated south Fulton alone would lose $25 million annually if Sandy Springs starts collecting and allocating its own taxes. The most severe critics call city advocates racists bent on victimizing blacks.

What; "victimizing", "victimizing", "victimizing" Blacks?!? WTF? It's as if the citizens of Sandy Springs are supposedly STEALING all $25 million from successful and thriving Blacks who earned that money by the sweat of their collective ebon brows.

What unmitigated HORSESHIT!

Robert S. Oculus III said...

@Anon, October 2, 2012 7:00 PM: Increasingly, the only defense for white people is going to be migration from the coasts back to the interior of the country.

And do what for a living? Farm? On what land? With whose tools and equipment? And how? Are you seriously suggesting that one hundred and eighty million white people who have lived in the city all their lives are going to abandon their homes and belongings and just... move to the sticks? How the hell are they supposed to live?

Simple answer: they can't. Unless you intend to eliminate all mechanized farming and revive stoop-labor agriculture (with its immense need for labor), your retreat to the hills will never happen, because otherwise there will be no means for the members of the great white exodus to put bread on their tables. Hope folks like sharecropping...

There will be no Redeker Plan. The Race War will be fought block by block and house by house in the streets of our cities. And whites will lose, because we won't be fighting crackheads, welfare sows, and idiot gangbangers. We'll be fighting the U.S. Army and the federalized National Guard, not to mention Homeland Security and drones and God only knows who and what else.

We can't run. There's no place to run, to. We can't fight. All the militiamen in the world will lose against real soldiers equipped with tanks, artillery, automatic weapons, and air support.

The only way the Good Guys win is if the military comes in our our side. And what are the odds of that, do you think? Take a look at the Army we have now and tell me you see in them a force that is ready to take the side of the people against the almighty Chain of Command.

Then think of Waco... on every block in your neighborhood.

Anonymous said...

The population of Engelwood has decreased by over 10,000 residents in the last ten years. If you've never been there, take a ride on the commuter train that passes through the neighborhood and notice the vacant lots and boarded up houses. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOI7KdcZvwg

MuayTyson said...

I have a question. Time and time again black pathology is proven in many different way. I as everyone here is convinced that blacks are inferior be it by genetics or culture or both. I read here or another site that someone met an older man who said that Welfare and the other social programs were cheaper then the alternatives and actually kept crime to a minimal level and had seen the reports.

Is there a way or is it possible to find out who is doing this, why they are doing this, and what proof do we have to substantiate these claims? Please do not misunderstand, I do not want to see a vague essay on You Know Who. I want to see a logical and traceable path from abolition to Jim Crow to the Welfare State. If at all possible with documentation. I think finding this out is utterly more important than beating the dead horse of black dysfunction.

Mr. Rational said...

There will be no Redeker Plan. The Race War will be fought block by block and house by house in the streets of our cities. And whites will lose, because we won't be fighting crackheads, welfare sows, and idiot gangbangers. We'll be fighting the U.S. Army and the federalized National Guard, not to mention Homeland Security and drones and God only knows who and what else.

How's that, Robbie?  Do you think that the US Army can surround every Section 8 rental in the country and prevent someone from sneaking up on it with a Molotov cocktail?  It only takes one, and the NAMs have to go somewhere else for an extended period.  Suppose the Army and National Guard do try guarding the NAMs.  Do you think they have any safety when they leave their posts?  Unless they are living entirely on MREs, someone could slip poison into the mess hall fare.  Who'd remain on duty given that kind of vulnerability?

Drones are fucking useless against partisans and moles.  You could identify a discontent like me from my IP address, and blow up my house.  What good would that do?  I'm not the pointy end of the spear; killing me just makes people angry, because they could be next.  The guy who can put poison into the mess-hall fare of the drone operators would have a good shot at receiving a Medal of Honor from the Reconstructed Continental Congress.

Zenster said...

Mr. Rational: They downplay the explosion of killings, likely caused by their push against criminals moving them into new territory where they fight turf wars all over again.

Of course they "downplay" such waves of self-inflicted intramural minority violence. Otherwise, ethnic cleansing of thug Blacks in America's once murder capitol, Compton, by the Hispanic influx would have gotten a lot more attention.

This is a lot like how the West could successfully, and very economically, fight Islamic jihad. Use "wetworks" targeted assassinations to scrape away the very highest echelons of terrorist leadership—in the form of its political, clerical, financial and scholastic elite—while the West sits back to enjoy, not only a near-instantaneous cessation of jihad itself, but the value-added function derived from all those young Muslim bucks offing each other as they scramble into the newly created power vacuum. What's not to like?

This is the process of Creative Destruction which I mentioned in a recent thread.

Use gentrification to forcibly agglomerate, what are otherwise, totally immiscible ethnic gang demographics, then just sit back and watch, literally, the fur fly.

I'm still open to other ways of applying Creative Destruction so that it preemptively addresses much of this anti-White displacement. It is one of the most powerful tools that Whites have; best exemplified by Western high technologies and the almost total inability of lower IQ minorities to comprehend or adapt to them in any sort of genuinely (legitimate) career-enhancing manner. Put another way, using G4 cell phones to orchestrate Flash Robs doesn't count.

Robert S. Oculus III said...

One more thing: I wish to make it clear that I am not against individual white families building country retreats. A "lifeboat" in the country only makes good sense.

What I don't support is the idea that a white "migration from the coasts back to the interior of the country". is a practical solution to the black problem. The entire white population of America's coast cannot just all of a sudden jump up and head for the hills. The countryside can only be a refuge for a few whites, those with some sort of income that is independent of their locale (e.g.; writing, investments, etc.) -- or those with the ability to farm. For everyone else, moving to the country is not an option.

Anonymous said...

'The take over of our great cities wii continue as long as the tribes are well fed and have a continuing source of funding. Imagine a cargo ship full of grain abandoned and adrift at sea with a few mice aboard,the population of mice would continue to grow into the millions and then the grain would eventually run out and the mice would begin to feed on themselves and the infestation would be over. Unfortunately our infestation is not confined to a ship, so when we quit feeding the tribes and the white tax money runs out they will migrate to feed off us.'

12 million to 43 million in 50 years.
F@@KING imagine if the White christian population tripled in that time.

Anonymous said...

The formation of whitopia's is a great idea that is doomed to failure UNLESS blacks are prevented from following like a plague of locusts to feed off the white community. Unless they are prevented from following, all this does is provide a temporary relief from their demands to be supplied with everything they need yet WILL NOT provide for themselves.
I recall the words of a S.C. senator (in reference to the freeing of slaves) that, if the slaves were freed, blacks would become a permanent underclass requiring the constant support of the white community. His words have proven absolutely true and are irrefutable. Additionally, if you look at the historical data, blacks have always been over represented in the crime statistics/prison population- this too has not changed over endlesss decades. The pathologies of the black community are well known, well documented and will never end and are directly related to their low IQ's. They are a failed species and should be allowed to fail and destroy themselves with no further preventative measures being enacted by delusional white liberals who only exacerbate the problem by ensuring unrestricted breeding of a failed species.
Our only concern should be containment of the problem and protection from their criminality and violence.
It has always been the delusional black mentality that whites (or others) are responsible for all their problems and are consequently responsible for handing out to them everything they need or want. All black anger and rage is directly related to this "Gibsmedat!" factor.
You can never win the argument with blacks. Example: If you open a store in the black community to provide a much needed service, you're a parasite feeding off the black community and "taking money away." If you DON'T open a store, then you're a hateful racist dat don't care 'bout da black community!
It's way past time to tell these retarded talking apes to fuck off and die.

Anonymous said...

There is little or no job growth in majority non-white neighborhoods.

Same old story. The assumption is that jobs somehow magically appear, without any understanding that someone has to invest the capital and/or labor to make the jobs happen. The reason the jobs do not "grow" is because of a lack of these skills in the community; or people outside the community who might "grow" the jobs are deterred by crime and lack of employable people.

What makes this all the more annoying is that the government has made the capital available via every manner of minority business, contract and grant program. So why do these inner city residents not avail themselves of the opportunities?

But it's like DWL reporting on crime. Black people are shown disproportionately to be victims of crime, without any recognition that they are creating the crime in the first place.

Unemployment, crime, illegitimacy, urban decay, urban rioting--these are all deemed to be mysterious social forces which somehow descend upon blacks unfairly. And if a perp is needed, then central casting can come up with white "racists" to fill the bill.

The term "magical thinking" has been bandied about. It is a good enough way to describe what is happening in America. DWLs and blacks are looking for some way to conjure up the spell which will "grow" jobs in the urban wasteland.

Anonymous said...

All the shocking claims about black nature in this blog are basically correct, but that doesn't mean that whites are morally superior to blacks.

Greg Fannin said...

'We can't run. There's no place to run, to. We can't fight. All the militiamen in the world will lose against real soldiers equipped with tanks, artillery, automatic weapons, and air support.'

Yeah, they certainly kicked the collective asses in Iraq and Afghanistan. No militiamen left there.

Silent Running said...

And whites will lose, because we won't be fighting crackheads, welfare sows, and idiot gangbangers. We'll be fighting the U.S. Army and the federalized National Guard, not to mention Homeland Security and drones and God only knows who and what else.

I see Bobby is not a student of history. That's a shame. History is extraordinarily valuable. Without it, you lose all perspective.

We can't fight. All the militiamen in the world will lose against real soldiers equipped with tanks, artillery, automatic weapons, and air support.

Like they're doing in Afghanistan, Bobby?

I've often cautioned (or lectured, depending on your perspective) against defeatism at this and other forums. Bobby's comment is precisely what I've been talking about. Not only is it ahistorical horseshit, it builds and builds and builds OPFOR until you're up against a non-human, monolithic entity that is simply incapable of making mistakes. (It has this in common with conspiracy theories.) How much defeatism can one preach before it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy?

I'll leave you all with the words of Col. Jeff Cooper (emphasis mine):

It is interesting to hear certain kinds of people insist that the citizen cannot fight the government. This would have been news to the men of Lexington and Concord, as well as the Mujahedeen in Afghanistan. The citizen most certainly can fight the government, and usually wins when he tries. Organized national armies are useful primarily for fighting against other organized national armies. When they try to fight against the people, they find themselves at a very serious disadvantage. If you will just look around at the state of the world today, you will see that the guerillero has the upper hand. Irregulars usually defeat regulars, providing they have the will. Such fighting is horrible to contemplate, but will continue to dominate brute strength.

Anonymous said...

To a vast extent, whatever controllable aspects of this gap remain totally unaddressed by Blacks and a huge percentage of the harm being done by this disparity is self-inflicted.

A war on poverty was declared but most of the warriors preferred trying to be king of nothing than to be seen to be "actin' white".

Detroit is detroit because of detroiters.

Anonymous said...

" “We’ve got to eat. We want to. We want money. We want to get fresh, we want fresh J’s almost every day. We want all that,” another young man said. But where do they get the money they need? The young man answered bluntly.

“Rob, steal and kill. That’s the only way. We didn’t grow up in Beverly Hills. We don’t get it handed to us,” he said. “We ain’t living in Hyde Park,” added a third young man."

Too bad you squandered a chance at getting out by wasting your free education as a child. Too bad your mother was, most likely, very promiscuous and had multiple children by multiple fathers (none of which are around-for anything other than a baby producing quicky). Too bad you don't know right from wrong. Too bad you solve all of your problems with violence. Too bad your future has you either dead or incarcerated.

Dissident said...

"I see no real solution to this problem other than getting the hell away from the blacks."

The Commie's running our government will try everything in their power to prevent this from happening.

" All the militiamen in the world will lose against real soldiers equipped with tanks, artillery, automatic weapons, and air support"

I disagree. Guerrilla warfare could be very effective against a rogue military. If enough poeple who were determined to do something; just did, then you'd be amazed at how the machine would ground to a halt.

We're getting strestched so thin that you can't rule out any possibilities for conflict. There are many scenarios that may transpire, but chaos is a sure bet in the future, especially in the cities. Better start some preparations post hast.

If you have a family and you value their lives, then start making contingencies without delay.

Food
Firearms
Transportation out of urban centers
Water
Cash on hand
etc.

You get the point.

Mutant Swarm said...

Anonymous said...

"All the shocking claims about black nature in this blog are basically correct, but that doesn't mean that whites are morally superior to blacks."

From Dictionary.com:

mo·ral·i·ty   [muh-ral-i-tee, maw-]
noun, plural mo·ral·i·ties for 4–6.

1.conformity to the rules of right conduct; moral or virtuous conduct.
2.moral quality or character.
3.virtue in sexual matters; chastity.
4.a doctrine or system of morals.
5.moral instruction; a moral lesson, precept, discourse, or utterance.
6.morality play.

Yes, we are. Whites (in general were practicing and refining the concept of morality when black were still swinging from trees.

10mm AUTO said...

This is a lot like how the West could successfully, and very economically, fight Islamic jihad. Use "wetworks" targeted assassinations to scrape away the very highest echelons of terrorist leadership—in the form of its political, clerical, financial and scholastic elite—while the West sits back to enjoy, not only a near-instantaneous cessation of jihad itself, but the value-added function derived from all those young Muslim bucks offing each other as they scramble into the newly created power vacuum. What's not to like?

Abso-fu*king-loutly! 100 gangs in close quarters, each jealous of turf and power, each armed and ready, composed of dirt ignorant negros? Where is the match mama, cus I found the gun powder!

As to winning, please read "Unintended Consequences" by John Ross. Assassinations against judges who let negros out of jail for shooting a cop or rape, targeting upper level leaders and DWL's with maximum bad publicity (like finding Louis Farrakhan dead full of heroin, or Rev. Wright dead in a Homo bath house). Assassinations against agents of the EEOC, NAACP, and leader DWL's (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noel_Ignatiev ) on their way home, where they live, etc. The fact is they are amongst us and they can't all be protected. Didn't anyone learn anything from our losses in Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, etc.? And remember, we are not starting a revolution, we simply want certain laws enacted that separate us from the negro legally and eventually diminish their number permanently in the North American Continent. This change is small compared to "overthrowing the Government", as the 60's hippies used to say.

i'm all white! how are you? said...

how about the new video of blowbama in 2007. did you hear the racial undertones? this pig spook is telling the black audience about how new york city isn't any better than new orleans. well o'bumhole i beg to differ a-hole. i'm not from and do not even like nyc but barry that's were the money starts in this country to pay taxes and to make payrolls around the u.s. what is new orleans? for one how about a nigger welfare state. two). people who pay no taxes. not like they don't in nyc but nyc is the finacial district for the country not new orleans. mr. affrimitive action president you should know where this country's priorities are needed more. and it's not like the niggers weren't told to leave and they even had buses for the poor black folk! a-hole. and he said that the country needs to make available transportation for these poor spooks to travel into the white areas to find work.(U.N.agenda 21 again) tell me some more lies o'bumhole. just like these muslims i'm tired of being told to be tolerant. fuck your tolerance. just like englewood, ill. whites are not responsible for the plight of nigreos. and they (big gov't)know that there aren't even orientals willing to go into the black hoods and deal with these people that do not want to do it themselves. hey big gov't go ahead and keep propping up this black lazy underclass citizen and see what happens to our society. and mr. big gov't i didn't fuck for these black spooks so they can count on someone else to baby them and to care cradle to grave. hey barry soetoro give them some of your millions! just what we thought. i'm a realist but you are a racist. DAMN THOSE SLAVE TRADERS!!! godspeed whites!!!

Artist said...

I urge everyone to visit this site, Small Wars Journal, and read this article. The article is titled: "Full Spectrum Operations in the Homeland: A “Vision” of the Future."

http://smallwarsjournal.com/jrnl/art/full-spectrum-operations-in-the-homeland-a-“vision”-of-the-future

Then read the comments. Read all of them. The majority of military professionals are appalled.

"Full Spectrum Operations in the Homeland: A “Vision” of the Future", written by instructors at an Army War College at Fort Leavenworth KS and the University of Kansas, shows the extent that leftwing anti-racists and Obamaphiles are comfortable within the structure of the US Military. The scenario the authors begin with is breathtaking in it's audacity; the tea party teams up with the KKK the take over half of South Carolina! Read carefully, this is the game plan of the final dispossion of whites in the USA. It also reveals the liberal mind's desire to continually fight the Civil War. PS, since my in-laws are NY libs I see this Yankee chest pounding all the time.

Much of the second half of the article discusses how to legally defeat and brush away Posse Comitatus so that the army can invade and kill and subjugate US citizens. The prose is flippant and arrogant. This is a shocking document.

The commenters expose the outrageousness of the authors entire paper. But the fact that they shamelessly wrote and published a paper that calls for war against conservative whites shows the rot within the academy. It also shows they have never met a tea party member and are subject to fever dreams about "the wrong kind of white people".

When the time comes the average person can not defeat the US Army. Many write in and spin stories of a future civil war with right-thinking citizens resisting the army. I don't see it. Not if the army stays loyal to the central government. Perhaps if there is mutiny, maybe. Perhaps a revolution such the 1991 fall of the USSR will occur and the army will refuse orders.

The fact is this nation is finished and has been finished for some time. We all live a total lie, a huge set of lies, that obscure every single truth/issue that the (former) republic stood for. That is the greatest thing Paul Kersey has done with this site; he has exposed the lie.

Anonymous said...

Re the Unv of MN Law School Dept of Law and Poverty, Myron Orfield.
I know him. He is a rich kid who went to the U of Chicago. He is the beneficiary of a dad who made it big in the storefront insurance business and milked the system building section 8 housing to his great and ongoing profit. He is a snob and a hypocrite. His whole cconcern is Myron Orfield.He is comfortably ensconced in Minnesota. Do you think he might dare to go to Atlanta and sound off?
Won't happen. He is a fraud, he knows it, and he fears if he went to Atlanta to rile the natives he would be exposed by someone motivated to conserve their own wealth...just as he is, his.

~AV~ said...

Robert S. Oculus III said...
@Anon, October 2, 2012 7:00 PM:
We can't run. There's no place to run, to. We can't fight.


Just bought a house in San Juan del Sur Nicaragua...I will be moving from BRA February 2013, to live as a resident in Nica.

Bought a 3 bedroom 3 bath house - 5 minute walk to the Pacific ocean.

1700 sf for 129K. Can live like royalty on 900.00 a month, this includes a cleaning lady and gardener 3 days a week. Annual home taxes will be less than a 1000.00. Healthcare is free for out-patient and very cheap for other services. For example 1500.00 for 2 day hospital stay for a delivery of a well baby.

I have reviewed the European austerity measures and the US is NOT going to escape similar decisions (no matter which clown is elected), and decided, I would rather be in a poor country climbing up, than in a crumbling country, working my ass off to pay taxes and for a ridiculous health care program (Obama or Romney care BOTH will destroy healthcare for the baby boomers) and being over taxed to support violent, lazy, and shiftless BRA slugs.

This upcoming move has become the BEST decision I ever made. I'll be retiring in my early 50s, so bye bye to BRA, the collapsing economy and the race wars that will be heating up soon across America.

Other areas where EXPATS are going to are:

Costa Rica, Guatamala, Panama, and Ecuador.

In fact, all the expats I spoke with have three things in common:

1. They don’t believe the economy in the U.S. will turn around any time soon. (Thanks to BRA and heavy looming taxes)

2. They’re taking matters in their own hands and making plans for the future. (Forget SS, Medicare and other bankrupt government programs)

3. And they’ve worked hard...they’re ready for a dignified, early retirement. (Not wanting to work at Walmart at 70 is very appealing to people who are willing to settle down to a more simplier laid back life)

BOTTOM LINE:
Nobody’s going to take care of us (white folks), not the government, not the banks, not the companies we work for, and not our kids...they can’t find jobs! Not enough babies being born in the last decades and now to support the bloated bankrupt federal and state governments...it is DOOMED for failure...BRA will win, Cloward Piven is in effect.

GET OUT while you can....

Anonymous said...

@AV,

That's all very well and good if you don't have children or don't plan on having any. You can go to live out the rest of your existence, and eventually pass away, in a third world country full of brown and black people - away from any significant white population that will be able to offer you protection should the population of Nicaragua decide that they, too, are at risk from white people and decide to nip the 'problem' in the bud before it gets out of hand. I think that race violence, on a large scale, in this country would quickly move to all countries south.

Furthermore, you are downgrading both in terms of the genetic pool in which you live and the development level of the country in which you live (which are obvious correlates). If you were interested in reproducing, you will be doing your genes a huge disservice by relocating them to such a place. It would be many steps backwards by any measure.

People looking to escape, if looking to reproduce or take kids, shouldn't downgrade into both a social and genetic situation which their kids and grand-kids will have an extremely difficult time clawing their way out of, if ever. Look for other solutions within this country, or for solutions in countries where the situation is better.

Anonymous said...

The lack of future horizon is amazing to behold.

It is the rare black person, in any generation, that decides that they will wholesale reject the social habits which are the obvious factors that lead to having no options.

Black people don't think "perhaps I'll reject Ebonics so that my children will reflexively speak proper English and be better able to fit in the functioning world; perhaps I'll reject hip hop values, so that the concepts of easy money and easy violence are foreign to my children; perhaps I'll reject behavior that leads to bastard children and broken families so that my kids will have a proper upbringing; perhaps I'll reject the concept of entitlement and instead I'll do what it takes to work my way to where I want to be without needing the support of anyone else, especially the financial largesse of other races; perhaps I'll reject a double standard concept of racism, and hold myself to the racial standards to which I hold white people; perhaps I'll reject an impulse toward hedonism, so that I'll remain drug, STD, and criminal record free; perhaps I'll embrace the ideal of helping my community, instead of abandoning it to live amongst whites the second that this option is feasible.

Every single gang-banger can get into college, or at least a tech program, should he or she get e GED. They will get full-rides or loans to do so. They need to learn to speak, write, do 9th grade algebra, and behave. This isn't too much to expect, and for tech programs they likely don't need any of this. Their lack of horizon is their parents fault, as well as their own fault. No excuses, because the options are there. You could stick ANY population of white people, starting with nothing, in a similar situation, and they would pull themselves out, to a basic level on non-violent civilized existence, within two generations. We HAVE done this over and over again. If gang-bangers and every other lumpen-prole and prole black person cannot decode the common sense of what they need to do to improve the lot of their children, then they are a lost race. Their actions, way of life, continuing need for accommodations in the workplace and academia, and continuing general dependence are all very telling of the potential of this race.

Their solution seems to be mating with whites (the less intelligent blacks think the solution is killing whites). I agree that white genes are the ONLY thing that imparts them with the basic group intelligence needed to survive. But this is grossly unjust to expect whites to breed with people whose intellectual and social capacity is much less. This is not our (mostly poor white people) sacrifice to make. We have made plenty of sacrifices already, as the only population in the world to fight six wars in a century, and yet we don;t have the functional right to congregate for our self interests. We are the most abused population of people in the world, if our plight is looked at through the hundred year lens. Black people must evolve on their own. We weren't the slave owners, nor were our poor ancestors, and we owe them nothing.


Anonymous said...

The only thing that will save Chicago is another great conflagration, started by lighting or a squirrel chewing thru a wire....on a day with a strong northerly wind.

~AV~ said...

to anonymous...

quite simply, I would much rather live in a country with spanish speaking brown people who happily work for $3.00 a day, raise their families and try to better their lives not on the back of a bloated bankrupt government, but from hard work.

Very few blacks in Nica, most reside on the Moskito coast, I am on the Pacific coast.

Furthermore huge EXPAT communities in Nicaragua are all white...Germans, Canadians and US.

I smile in amusement at your comments/concerns, I am getting out of a failing country and am overjoyed that I can live in peace and quiet for at least the next 10 years by the beach while you all moan and groan about something that can't be fixed in that same time frame.

Suck it up and admit, you would flee too if you had the money and resources.

Good luck with the next 25 years here in this country, it is only destined to get worst and the 'groid problem you will be saddled with...ain't gonna get bettah...

EXPATS laugh at the failed US policies and we have made decisions to remove ourselves from the morass...we are amused that so many people remain purposefully and willingly helpless.

My daughter of 34 is getting her money in order to ditch the US as well.

Face it...US whitie is doomed, Christians are doomed, the working middle class is doomed, the tax payer is doomed, jobs are doomed...

YOU my friend and your family are doomed...the bankrupt and corrupted country depends on your employment. Lucky you!

I much rather live in a sleepy fishing village that supports some of the best surfing sites in the world...then living with a false security behind gates in a suburb...waiting for the next round of PENDING DOOM...all inspired by politicians coddling lazy shiftless black people with hand outs from YOUR pocket.

BTW, I want to clarify I am not a racist, I do not judge people by their skin color...I do however JUDGE people by their actions and or lack of actions.

Generally speaking most blacks are parasites here in the US, either thru affirmative action placement into bloated government entities so that they may further support and defend the black leeches entitlement programs.

Central America doesn't coddle leeches...it is sink or swim there...and don't worry about my "well being" in Nica, have already looked into a small retreat in the mountains of Ecuador...

NICA and Ecuador offer peace and quiet away from marauding blacks and crumbling infrastructure here in the US.

BTW...my money is on that in November "Obama wins" and even if he doesn't Romney is no better, with his adopting Obama policies and his Romney care.

The government we now have is BROKEN...and you my white friend are trapped and enslaved to it.

Good luck...I will enjoy my days volunteering my time in Nicaragua helping children develop skills to start their own businesses and move their country to greatness...NICA wants to be the next Panama, the Chinese just financed a canal across their country, and Nica will be heading for prosperity at a faster rate then this country.

Anonymous said...

AV, congrats! i wish I were getting out as soon. I figure you must be on the west coast, maybe a surfere? I have considered San Juan del Sur, as well as a few other spots, but am always drawn back to Uruguay. (i'm not a surfer) As someone mentioned, expatriation may not be the best route for all. In my situation, it makes sense, and SA seems the best choice, all things considered. My heart would lead me elsewhere, though, and if wealthy, I'd go to the west of Ireland, but money constrains.

I hope you'll update here, post- move, for prospective future ex- pats. Vaya con Dios!

Anonymous said...

Why do I only note typos when it's too late? I've been racially aware for ages, foresaw the decline of the USA, etc., but just can't catch a misspelling before it's sucked into the ether.

"surfer" not "surfere" in post to Anon moving to Nicaragua.

Robert the Biker said...

Regarding the Army not siding with the people: guess what, the Army ARE the people. Their families are not safe 8 thousand miles away from the combat zone, they live right next door to the people they would be assaulting, wonder how that one would play out if Bubba came back from a few days kickin the 'wrong kind of white people' to find his families home burned to the ground with them in it.

Anonymous said...

So we're going to just say that black people Are just violent for no reason at all when it's obviously the ignorance that comes along with poverty? State the quotes from the video where those same mouths admitted to just wanting a better life. It's not just in America; it's in Ecuador, Mexico, Amsterdam, Russia, China, all over the world in all people of the lower class.

By not blaming it on one group of people, you're being just as ignorant as them.

-Loc

Anonymous said...

Can live like royalty on 900.00 a month, this includes a cleaning lady and gardener 3 days a week.

With all due respect to your decision to expat, you might reconsider your decision to hire locals to clean and do yardwork. Back in the USA, the hiring of third world domestics has become a major impetus for third world migration. In South Africa, whites hiring blacks as domestic servants is a security issue, since they often set up their employers for home invasion or farm attacks.

Granted, the situation might be different in Central America. By not hiring domestics you may be seen as breaking their rice bowl. But we all need to consider that the white use of cheap labor has long term consequences.

Stuff Black People Don't Like said...

Hey Loc,

Go fuck yourself. We are talking about America. Why is it that in places like West Virginia, Kentucky and Appalachia (where high rates of poverty are found among whites) that there is virtually no crime?

Why do these whites vote Republican, when Mitt Romney would consider them - as would Ayn Rand followers - part of the 47 percent?

http://www.kentucky.com/2012/09/18/2341886/many-kentuckians-who-rely-on-federal.html

I want to live in a real country, with serious people. America is not that country.

Anonymous said...

Given that zombies are a proxy, the Redeker plan takes on even more significance.

Regardless, they can't project power on their own, and aren't much of a threat. It is those who find those horribly lily white communities, and agitate for their destruction(after having lived in them for a while of course) that are the issue.

Californian said...

MuayTyson said...

I have a question. Time and time again black pathology is proven in many different way. I as everyone here is convinced that blacks are inferior be it by genetics or culture or both. I read here or another site that someone met an older man who said that Welfare and the other social programs were cheaper then the alternatives and actually kept crime to a minimal level and had seen the reports.

Is there a way or is it possible to find out who is doing this, why they are doing this, and what proof do we have to substantiate these claims? ...


Some sources:

* "Report of the National Advisory Commission on Civil Disorders." This was the 1968 Kerner Report. It's written from a liberal perspective, but it gives a picture of (1) a growing, restless black populace in America; (2) widescale violence emerging from that populace; (3) the "need" for the federal government to implement massive social engineering programs to deal with (1) and (2). You have to read it with a sharp eye, but it is a blueprint for the federal bureaucracy to use the race issue to cement its power.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerner_Commission

* National Review magazine from the 1950s and 1960s. You can find archival copies in major libraries (maybe they are on CD these days?). During those years, Wm. F. Buckley, jr., and crew were very critical of the civil rights movement and liberalism. There's a lot of stuff in NR which would be considered beyond the fringe these days, but at the time was held by much of the mainstream.

Kil said...

The only reason these folks even sat down to talk was monetary compensation from the media organizing the event. Otherwise, it'd be The Google Car Treatment for them all.

Anonymous said...

"Is there a way or is it possible to find out who is doing this, why they are doing this, and what proof do we have to substantiate these claims? Please do not misunderstand, I do not want to see a vague essay on You Know Who. I want to see a logical and traceable path from abolition to Jim Crow to the Welfare State. If at all possible with documentation. I think finding this out is utterly more important than beating the dead horse of black dysfunction. "

I'll give this a shot. It all comes down to reproductive fitness. With slavery destroyed blacks were thrown into the share cropping business, there was no such thing as welfare, and precisely zero tolerance for dysfunction, so the blacks that adapted best to that situation formed the foundation of the black community. Marriage rates were high by necessity, and while there was a lot of crime, there were also a lot of dead criminals(things were violent back then for everyone, though the 8 to 1 ratio was apparently true back then as well).

In Jim Crow America working class black men who married black women had the edge in getting children to adulthood, and high status relative to the black community as a whole. Also behavior is heritable so their children would go on to follow their path. Likewise heavily dysfunctional males had a tendency to find themselves dead, with such females likewise largely unable to raise children. With immigration ended in 1925, wages shot up for all workers, and this period had the highest wage growth blacks had ever seen. Likewise restrictions on miscegenation prevented black ghettos from becoming the kind of dysgenic sinks the indian reservation system turned into, so a black political elite was able to form.

Out of all of these factors produced an America that genuinely felt grief that such individuals were being treated so poorly. That black political elite was able to provide the presentable face, and make the heart felt, hat in hand arguments that ultimately swayed the populace as a whole(not the south of course, long memories were much more powerful than TV images).

Lifting Jim Crow made it possible for criminals to outcompete working class blacks in the status market, women want powerful men as whiskey might say, and workers aren't that unless the competition is bashed down for them. Providing welfare made it possible for females who did not get married to contemplate having and raising children that they simply would not have been able to, and of course these are the women that flatly rejected the black working class. Again, behavior is heritable.

So here we are, ~25% of blacks are married(in absolute numbers not that many fewer than were married 40 years ago, probably consistent with the fall in white marriages), but the dysfunctional population has exploded into the stratosphere. I do not believe that we can impose a solution to their problems, though, we'd inevitably find ourselves back at paragraph 4, since the fundamental issue of depriving them of the chance to earn their own status is one thing that we'd never want to happen to ourselves or anyone we care about.



"Abso-fu*king-loutly! 100 gangs in close quarters, each jealous of turf and power, each armed and ready, composed of dirt ignorant negros? Where is the match mama, cus I found the gun powder!" - Unfortunately prison integration was a wild success: the gangs are working together to make money. Initially the most hostile of each group will grind themselves down against each other, but after that the dealmakers start coming out.

Anonymous said...

Having just read the article about Regional Equity and the attempt by the powers that be to tax to death the citizens of whitopia's (that were formed in an attempt to keep their tax dollars in their own community for the betterment of their own) and transfer that wealth to all de poor nigga's, I am left with a feeling of utter disgust.
Even when whites flee, form their own independent cities away from the black undertow, the government wants to enable the worthless black to get it's dirty paw into your wallet by proxy. IF they can't raise the negro up (which they will never succeed in doing) then, by God, they'll bleed your community to near death through the theft of taxes. All that your community could have accomplished for itself will be sacrificed on the altar of black dysfunction.
This nation has gone insane. No amount of wealth stolen from whites will ever guarantee an equality of outcome for blacks and their communities. You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear and only a damn fool would try. Yet, DWL's and their kind continue the attempt after endless demonstrable failures. They NEVER learn the lesson and repeat the same behaviors over and over like a retarded mental patient who can't figure out why every time he places his hand on a hot stove it gets burned. Worse yet, the retarded DWL believes that one day, he will place his hand on the hot stove and it'll all work! He won't get burned! He'll succeed!
Liberalism is a mental disorder and these are the kinds of people that need to be stopped in their tracks. Each DWL should have a psychiatric technician assigned to monitor their behavior and stop them from carrying out their delusional plans before they can do any damage.
Yes, this nation has gone insane and the nuts are now in charge of the institution and are running amok.

Anonymous said...

To Ex-Lincolnite here:
I saw a model motorized TITANIC in a lake once, it was accompanied by a cleverly built MOTORIZED ICEBERG! My point to this is that no matter where the TITANIC went on the pond, the result was the same. A metaphore to be sure, but the anology cannot be denied.

Anonymous said...

Poor people have poor ways.
Countenance!!! I totally take issue with this statement, meaning no offense, but this is notally untrue. Blacks may have poor ways but that has nothing to do with financial status..

Anonymous said...

. Anyone know of any large companies (outside of Milwaukee) that need 3rd level client support people besides Kholer?
Military contracting needs IT capable people all the time and pay is VERY GOOD!

Anonymous said...

With this type of ideology you express I am sure a fitting prefix for your call name would be the word "starving".

Anonymous said...

timothy Mcveigh, aurora movie theater shooting-all white men

Anonymous said...

@SBPDL

C'mon .. The population of those places aren't concentrated like the urban areas that blacks & Latinas are. Why do you think the FBI ucr takes data by per 100,000? Because it makes a difference; that's why.

It's human nature not American nature; broaden your horizons a little then maybe we'd all make progress instead of just talking all day.

Californian said...

A question for the anonymous person who posted the following:

broaden your horizons a little then maybe we'd all make progress instead of just talking all day.

Can you explain to us how SBPDL is holding up "progress?"

SBPDL is only one website. And it is up against the entire system of government civil rights and EO agencies; against the NAACP and every other race based advocacy front whose resources dwarf SBPDL; against the schools and universities which promote the "diversity" party line; against affirmative action, minority grants and black studies; against a media which bends over backwards to portray blacks in a positive light; against a court system which strikes down voter ID laws; against black flash mobs; against the suppression of works by scientists such as Philippe Rushton which demonstrate the reality of race; and against millions of liberal (and non-liberal) Americans who beat their breasts with a near-pathological guilt over race.

But you are saying that all it takes is one website like SBPDL, just one, and suddenly "progress" is brought to a screeching halt and we are to return to the dark days before Brown vs Board of Education?

Can you explain this to us?

Is race realism a heck of a lot stronger than people think? Perhaps all race realists have to do is keep up the online pressure and the entire system will come crashing down.


With this type of ideology you express I am sure a fitting prefix for your call name would be the word "starving".

What are you going on about?

C'mon .. The population of those places aren't concentrated like the urban areas that blacks & Latinas are.

White people who live in concentrated urban environments have only a fraction of the violent crime rates of blacks. For New York City:

"Black arrestees (53.8%) and Hispanic arrestees (36.4%) account for the majority of Murder and Non-Negligent Manslaughter arrestees while White arrestees (7.1%) and Asian/Pacific Islander (2.2%) arrestees account for the remaining portions of the Murder and Non-Negligent Manslaughter arrest population."

http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/analysis_and_planning/crime_and_enforcement_activity.shtml

Why do you think the FBI ucr takes data by per 100,000? Because it makes a difference; that's why.

There is always an excuse for black dysfunction. Always. In America. In Africa. In the Caribbean. In London post-riot.

Just once I would like to see a race hustler (or one of his DWL handlers) stand up and say, "Yes, blacks are responsible for their high rates of violent crime, illegitimacy and school failure." Think that is gonna happen?

Let me ask the anonymous poster: doesn't it bother you that wherever blacks have gained power, whether in Haiti or Zimbabwe or Detroit, the result seems to be a general decline in public safety, education, infrastructure and standard of living? How do you account for such similar results across so many continents?

~AV~ said...

October 3, 2012 11:31 AM
Anonymous said...



With all due respect to your decision to expat, you might reconsider your decision to hire locals to clean and do yardwork. Back in the USA, the hiring of third world domestics has become a major impetus for third world migration. In South Africa, whites hiring blacks as domestic servants is a security issue, since they often set up their employers for home invasion or farm attacks.

Granted, the situation might be different in Central America. By not hiring domestics you may be seen as breaking their rice bowl. But we all need to consider that the white use of cheap labor has long term consequences.

I was making a point that may have been missed. First my new community includes the gardener in my monthly security, water, and sewer bill of $25.00 a month.

I have no need for a cleaning lady, I will be retired, no kids and my husband and I will manage the house...point being made was...for $900.00 you can live like a king and queen, I am aiming to explain that a lifestyle like that here in the states, couldn't be touched...

Yes I am a surfer, scuba diver, kayaker and enjoy deep sea fishing... things that white people like...and I will likely be able to live on $800.00 a month and if the EXPAT Farmer's Market is as great as I hear it is...it is said you can get by nicely on $600.00 a month.

America is drowning in the freebies for the violent, lazy and shiftless...

Also for what it is worth, Nicaragua allows 2 guns per expat family providing you have had FBI clearance (conceal gun permit) here in the states and we are also importing a gun safe.

Apply common sense...if you wear something flashy (gold/diamonds) someone may try to take it...sort of like the feral rats in Chicago who are enticed by iPhones, cell phones, tennis shoes, jewelry...etc...

Crime will be everywhere you go...but I don't anticipate that the locals will have "free time" to commit crimes...theyhave to fish and farm to eat...no freebies down there...life has different requirements in Nicaragua other than sitting on a porch drinking grape drank and waiting for a government check...in between wildings and crime sprees.

Anonymous said...

AV, thanks for the update on Nicaragua. It's getting bizarre that you have to move to Central America to have a lifestyle once promised to all Americans.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous mentioned the Aurora Colorado shooting and Timothy McVeigh.
Fine.
Go to www.blackracismandracehatred.blogspot.com\.
There you can see all the news articles about EVERYDAY murders of numerous whites by feral worthless blacks.
There are dozens upon dozens of white Trayvon's which the mainstream media NEVER mentions.
The daily toll is staggering and far outweighs what one or two random nuts may do and is business as usual for worthless, feral blacks.


Anonymous said...

@Californian sorry you had to waste your time replying with that much input but I was talking to the person that responded to me under that specific alias

So CAL Snowman said...

Anonymous 1:18 said : "timothy Mcveigh, aurora movie theater shooting-all white men"

I was wondering if one of these type of posts would make it through. Englewood, Chicago has a population of 30,000 (according to the 2010 census) that is 97.37% BLACK, comprising approximately 3 sq. miles. In 2011 Englewood had 56 confirmed murders. For comparison, Aurora, CO has a population of 332,000 that is 62% White and 16% Black with various other races filling in the rest. Aurora comprises an area of 154.3 sq. miles. In 2011 Aurora had 23 confirmed murders. To summarize my findings, an enclave of 30,000 blacks residing in 3 sq. miles committed TWICE AS MANY murders as a 62% majority white city consisting of 330,000 people, residing in 154 sq. miles.

So you see even though Aurora had a crazy "white male with a gun" shooting spree and a majority "crazy white racist population", it is still by far and away much safer and more civilized than the 3 sq miles of Chicago inhabited by Tolkien's orcs. THAT'S why race matters. THAT'S why the media jumps all over white male homicides, particularly homicides involving firearms. The idea is to create a false sense of reality that "Evil white men with guns" are just as bad as the 15% of the population (blacks) that accounts for more than 50% of all violent crimes, including homicides.

Anonymous said...

Ha , ha. P.K. your site is so entertaining. I find myself taking a peek every now and then. Great stuff.

Anonymous said...

Let's be rational, the only Medal of Honor you will ever see is the video game version.

MuayTyson said...

Thank you Cali and Anon for helping to answer my questions.

On the Expat issue. I moved to Asia when I was 30 years old and have been able to make it and live a much better life then I would in America. How do I know? My wife and I moved back to the US for 2 years and we both hated it.
We looked into Ecuador and we loved it. Unfortunately we could swing it but all of the high society of South America and Central America is White. Sorry to inform you guys but European Spanish are White. The blacks are treated as they deserve in Latin America and the browns tend to be harder working and pleasant. There is some crime but it is not suffered and dealt with quickly unlike America.

So CAL Snowman said...

OT - This is a bizarre one, even for the Obama campaign. And we are supposed to believe that the left respects women?

Obama ad - Vote like your lady parts depend on it.

Mr. Clean said...

~AV~ said...Also for what it is worth, Nicaragua allows 2 guns per expat family providing you have had FBI clearance (conceal gun permit) here in the states and we are also importing a gun safe.

I was wondering about this.... Thanks.

To those ranting about assassinations, arsons, etc., perhaps you should move to the middle east and convert?

Military clampdowns or actions against a widespread revolt? It will never happen. I suggest you figure out the manpower and equipment that would be needed for such operations, in addition to the what is needed outside the country, and weigh them against the resources currently available. The police would likely not get involved, and I don't see the National Guard taking direct action.

I am an optimist. I have heard grumblings from people around me from whom I was surprised to hear such things. I think what this site has called "negro fatigue" is setting in, and something will happen.

Also, I hope Romney wins, as I think it will be interesting. If I understand some of his business background correctly (and I might not), he is used to identifying and clearing dead wood.

Dissident said...

To AV.

I spent some time in Costa Rica about a decade ago and literally fell in love with the country and its people.

A largely homogeneous country with beautiful people and the freshest food imaginable, there was nothing not to like about the place.

I'd move there in a NY minute, especially to escape the Hell that is multiculturalism. Hope you enjoy yourself and say a prayer for all we here in the USS of Amerika, still languishing under the burden of Marxist contrived chaos and tyranny.

Mutant Swarm said...

Anonymous said...
"timothy Mcveigh, aurora movie theater shooting-all white men"

October 3, 2012 1:18 PM
______________________________

Allow me to put a dent in your ignorance:

Black Serial Killers: Documenting a Startling Trend.

You may leave now.

Anonymous said...

The ideal solution is deportation and exile. Strip these people, black, white or whomever, that can't handle living in a civilized society, that can't behave, that can't provide for themselves of their citizenship and give them the boot.

Anonymous said...

@AV said;

I smile in amusement at your comments/concerns, I am getting out of a failing country and am overjoyed that I can live in peace and quiet for at least the next 10 years by the beach while you all moan and groan about something that can't be fixed in that same time frame.

That's great. Why amusement? I said that if you don't intend to put multi-generational roots down in the place, then there is nothing wrong with it (assuming that you like the culture, which you do). You're choosing to take a defensive position where no offensive position exists, assuming that you meet the criteria that I proposed.

Suck it up and admit, you would flee too if you had the money and resources.

Geez, more I'm better than you are new expat ridiculousness. Here's news: I have lived abroad, for several years. I know exactly what you are going to, both from experience and due to a level of intelligence that affords me a meta-view on the future of both Nicaragua and any kids that you may have there. I have a rare job that enables me to not only work, but be in demand in most parts of the world in which there is any money at all to pay me. Alternatively, I can offer my services online, which would more than pay for a Nicaraguan lifestyle. It isn't a super high paying job, but I can easily make an American level middle class salary from anywhere.

You're running away to live in a relatively insignificant part of the world, while the west burns around you. That's fine, and I can't say that I haven't recently had similar thoughts of 'giving up', or marrying Asian to allow my children to escape the white persecution which is probably only going to get much worse. However, the beauty of who my people are, and what they have built keeps a tenacious fire burning inside. Instead of giving up, like you, my less selfish but more difficult plan is to relocate to a more advantaged position (genetics and economy included) and help my people make a political stand. It'll be a lot harder than will be sipping whatever you like to drink on a Nicaraguan beach every night, but at least I will be giving my kids a chance and not bowing out of the fight. If you have a white kid in Nicaragua, with an assumed white wife that you may now have, he will still be located in backwater Nicaragua with almost zero realistic hope of escape. If he/she has kids, they will be with a brown Nicaraguan and then your line has zero hope of escaping devastating poverty that most there live - don't fool yourself. That country is only nice for you because of your relative wealth, which you take for granted. But that won't last intergenerationally. I don't even think that it's smart for whites to move to much poorer but whiter fly-over states, because the same mechanism will be in effect. They will live a lower stress life for a single generation, but the poverty will be much harder on their kids, and they are unlikely to ever escape. Poverty/class and civilization is a frame of mind, and whites should look for better fortified areas in all regards, not just areas that are easier. Yes, Kentucky would currently be a nice place, but not if there is zero economic or political buttress against keeping the multicultural rifraff out (moving in is an eventuality), or if your kids have to work in a coal mine.

Nicaragua is much worse than your current location if any of that is in the cards. If you are too old to have more kids, then you are genetically no longer viable and it doesn't matter what you do, especially if you have no kinship instinct. It's better than people like yourself get out of the way. Go live happy. Hopefully your daughter has some instinct or drive that will contribute the the salvage of the west, if not in N. America then in Europe.

Anonymous said...


I much rather live in a sleepy fishing village that supports some of the best surfing sites in the world

Read: poor fishing village where uneducated people live hand to mouth, with an amenity that satisfies a personal need. That's fine, but it's ultimately a perspective that is culturally impoverished. It actually reminds me of the priorities of some minorities, no offense. "I want things that are comfortable and shiny, and want to avoid the hard work that will pull my people out of the muck."

I will enjoy my days volunteering my time in Nicaragua helping children develop skills to start their own businesses and move their country to greatness

It's a shame that white kids won't benefit from your largesse. Bad kinship instincts, I guess. Don't expect the Nicaraguans to have your back should things ever get nasty. Their kinship instincts, I'm sure, are razor sharp.

Anonymous said...

Close. But imagine this boat full of grain is tied interconnectedly to multiple boats that also have other mice and grain. Now would the mice on the boat you mentioned cannibalize or would the mice go over to the next boat and eat all that grain?

A better metaphorical animal, and personal favorite of mine, is the locust. I always go back to what Bill Pullman said in Independence Day after he mind linked and almost died. When he gets a picture of their plans.

THAT is the reality.

Anonymous said...

Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!

Although I do think the military will split. The majority of white people will side with their families who are white. Most white soldiers, probably non, are not self-hating liberals. Right now if there is a civil war with the military involved, we win. Most infantry is white, while minorities make up support and other non-combat roles.

Twenty years from now, which is my guess when it will happen, who knows.

Anonymous said...

I will assume you are speaking in generalities. But in short, prove it.

Ever look up "black morals" in a search engine, I have. Guess what? Nothing comes up.

I'm not saying that whites are perfect, we aren't. But morally superior? Honestly, how aren't we? Do you know what morals are?

Anonymous said...

I am by nature an optimist, but think about this in regards to defeatism. Whites flee to the suburbs or do not shoot a black on their lawn because they feel they have so much to live for.

If you feel defeated you are admitting that there is no future, hence you have nothing to lose. At that point is when you take matters into your own hands. At the point when there is a collection of defeatists in one place is when we, as a people, will say "no more".

Only after you have lost everything you are free to do anything.

Again, while I do not agree or disagree with you, I am showing you an optimist's take on defeatism.

Anonymous said...

Simply by using the word 'ignorant' I can already see what type of person you are. By your definition I suppose facts, too are ignorant. Crime is increased by poverty, but wealthy blacks commit significantly more crime that wealthy anything else.

The poorest area of the US is Eastern Kentucky, in the mountains. Do you hear about the poor whites in the hills capping each other and slinging crack?

While not all blacks are bad, their rate of violence ruins it for the rest. Look at Paris, London, or Malmo for more examples that you delusional libs can't blame on racism, slavery, colonialism, or Jim Crow.

I am only in my late 20's but learned everything I need to know about blacks by living in the Detroit area. And yes, the wealthier blacks in Southfield are almost as bad as the ones in Detroit.

I have been to several Eastern european countries and saw nowhere near the same amount of crime. You use Russia as an example, have you ever been there?

Lol, ignorant. Indeed.

Time to come up with a new word.

Anonymous said...

Glad, you found two white killers. That justifies everything now. The amount of people that dies in those two attacks might comes close to what blacks do in the inner cities on a slow weekend. Multiply that by 40+ years.

Don't forget rapes, muggings, car jackings, and home invasions, etc.

You are hereby a full fledged retard.

Anonymous said...

There was a black serial killer in Atlanta which you may not have read about due to MSM being so so disappointed that it was not the work of the Klan.

The Fort Hood incident might have been forgotten about and Crystal Mangum did not become a serial killer because luckily she was a lousy wanabe serial killer so only succedded once.

Anonymous said...

I can understand the desire to abandon what appears to be a sinking ship here in the USA. But some thoughts...

If he/she has kids, they will be with a brown Nicaraguan and then your line has zero hope of escaping devastating poverty that most there live - don't fool yourself.

Some of us here are old enough to remember when "Nicaragua" was synonymous with "war." You had the Sandinistas fighting the Somozas, then the Contras tearing up the country against the Sandinistas. Peasant wars get nasty, with death squads and people being shot in the back of the head and dumped in ditches after suitable unpleasantness. Right now Central America appears peaceful, but you have to consider that you are putting yourself into a part of the world where things can get volatile and you will not have the constitutional protections (as eroded as they might be) in the US of A. If nothing else, the endless US war on drugs is moving around the region and may wreck havoc where you decide to settle.


That country is only nice for you because of your relative wealth, which you take for granted. But that won't last intergenerationally. I don't even think that it's smart for whites to move to much poorer but whiter fly-over states, because the same mechanism will be in effect.


I had a cousin who did his 20 as an LAPD officer and then moved to the Pacific Northwest to get away from the degeneration of the city. For him, it was paradise, but then again, he had spent two decades of his life in the worst of the urban jungle. And up north, he was drawing his civil service pension which made life comfortable. He had no kids and his wife had long since divorced him. I lost track of him years ago, but he had done his part to keep things under control in LA so one could understand his bailing.

I had a friend who also moved out of his big city and to the Pacific Northwest. At first it was paradise to him. No rat race, no minority race hustlers. And being from the big city, he was at first a novelty to the locals as he was known for giving big parties.

After six months, the novelty wore off. He now complains about the clannish ways of those same locals, the lack of world class fine arts, and the blue laws which crimp his lifestyle. But for various reasons he is stuck there.

A third friend moved to the Czech Republic and married a woman there. He speaks the language and has a job which allows him to move about. They are now raising a family. The Czech Republic is a civil place. But then again, you are in a small country in Europe which has been occupied several times by the bigger powers. And there is no guarantee that the European malady of multicultism will not take over, though for now the Eastern Europeans appear to be resisting it.

My point is, there are a lot of long term considerations to be made before heading out to another country.

Anonymous said...

1. Show me an area where a high concentration of poor whites live that match urban population numbers that are crime free then you'll make a point. Low concentrated mountain dwellers, are you kidding me? Don't turn it into a joke.

2. I have a Russian friend; tell of how we have it easy and how horrible crimes don't even get recorded a times.

3. I dislike hearing about people travel experiences because they almost never step foot in the poorest part of those countries or interact with the poor on a personal level.

4. Ignorance to me is being stuck/fixated on a particular idea or belief without being properly educated on the subject. In this case, educated doesn't mean what you hear and see on the news but knowing and living through the circumstances/hardships that these people face.

5. Poverty breeds criminals, criminals get locked up & the ones that don't spread their destructive ideas/ways to these young children, the children then in turn adopt these ideas without understanding that there is a choice or not having faith in that choice by having a set mind state; ofcourse there a variables. That's their ignorance.

Blaming crime on one people then saying its their nature is ignorant.

-Loc

Californian said...

A question for Loc: why is it that blacks, despite being given everything they have demanded -- desegregation, civil rights legislation, affirmative action, busing, black studies, minority grants, minority business programs, "hate crime" laws, disparate impact court decisions, MLK Day, Title 8 housing, the fawning adulation over Oprah, the overthrow of white-run South Africa, an end to voter ID laws, Obama in the Oval Office -- still have abnormally high rates of illegitimacy, violent crime and school drop outs? To what do you attribute the failure of too many blacks to assimilate into mainstream American culture?

And why do too many black majority run cities such as Detroit end up disintegrating financially, culturally and even physically? Why can't blacks use all of the above (especially the government funded contracts and funding) to create economically viable cities without relying on the white tax base (as SBPDL duly concludes)? Or at least keep the basic infrastructure running and maintain a modicum of law and order?


Show me an area where a high concentration of poor whites live that match urban population numbers that are crime free then you'll make a point.

Again, look at the crime figures for New York City (cited above). The vast majority of violent crimes in NYC (and many other major cities) are committed by "people of color." Whites commit only a fraction of these crimes, despite living as concentrated.

If your thesis were correct, then you could test it against black criminality versus white criminality in rural areas. Here's one example: there's an abnormal amount of black-on-white assault and murder in the rainbow nation of South Africa. There's low population concentration, but incredible amounts of black crime, often accompanied by torture of white victims. (By the way, were you aware of these farm torture-murders in SA, or doesn't your media or diversity program cover them?)


Poverty breeds criminals...

This was the progressive/liberal thesis for most of the 20th century. The US did in fact have a "war on poverty" to end the "socio-economic conditions" which supposedly bred criminals. What has been the result? We now have inner cities dominated by gangs composed largely of peoples of color who have turned them into warzones. It just may be that some criminality is preempted by raising the standard of living, but this does not seem to be apparent in the inner cities. Again, why don't blacks take advantage of affirmative action and the government's minority business programs to create the employment which would end the poverty which you claim creates crime?

Another question for LOC: again, look at Detroit; the city has been largely purged of those ignorant racist privileged white people. So why didn't black majority rule turn Detroit into a showpiece for economic development, civil order and cultural leadership?

Californian said...

Ignorance to me is being stuck/fixated on a particular idea or belief without being properly educated on the subject.

You mean the way that liberals are fixated on the belief that "race is just a construct?" Or too many blacks are fixated on the idea that all their problems are the fault of slavery-segregation-apartheid? Or the way that the mainstream media fixates on the narrative of "MLK = good" and "pre-1954 America = bad?"

Liberals have gone out of the way to suppress any evidence of the genetic component to race, notably by persecuting scientists such as Dr. Philippe Rushton, or via teaching only Boasian anthropology in the universities. There is also a long history of guest speakers being shouted down on campuses and being subjected to mob violence when they provide views on race which challenge the liberal orthodoxy (see Jared Taylor about this one).

Now, don't you think it is "ignorant" for liberals to suppress people and ideas which do not agree with their deeply held beliefs? If as the attorney general tells us we must have a dialog on race, why is only one side to be allowed to speak?

Here's another question for you: why was Rhodesia a viable country under white minority rule, but a running debacle under black majority rule? The people are the same, the population density is the same, the environment is the same. What has changed is the race of the ruling elite. Remove responsible white colonialists, replace them with black marxists, and ... voila! Runaway inflation. Massive human rights violations (dwarfing anything which happened during the war). A return of many diseases which white rule had stamped out. White people being ethnically cleansed from the farmlands. And much of the "liberated" black populace having to flee to South Africa out of sheer survival.

Is it ignorance to point this out? Or a hard appreciation of reality?

anti multiculti said...

India has a high concentration of brown ppl, all undeducated, and the crime levels are no where near US black ghettos.

So you are a lib, making excuses, long long ago, in europe you had, high concentration of poor white people, that didn't self destruct, as evidenced in black communities world wide

Their ways are certainly genetic, admit that.

Johnny See said...

God Bless you, Californian, you nailed it there. It's coming. More and more people are waking up and realizing the damage done, realizing and accepting this feeling we call 'negro fatigue'.
I wish Neil Young would reprise his son "The Damage Done" and mark the negro instead of the needle.
"...it's all just part of the liberal plan, I saw a negro shoot another man, oh ohh, the damage done..."
Too bad he's a indefatiguable liberal himself.

Californian said...

I am going to keep cranking on this because the arguments used by Loc are quite common, and need to be dealt with. (And I do appreciate his sticking with the dialog.)

Some more thoughts:

* Detroit under white majority rule and later under black majority rule: same city, same population density; probably the density today is lower than 50 years ago owing to the drop in the city's population with many neighborhoods now abandoned. Has this led to lower crime rates in Detroit?

* White flight: this is usually attributed to high crime rates accompanying largescale black migration into white neighborhoods. Why would there be higher crime rates given that the neighborhoods would have the same population density?

* Public housing: were crime rates the same when the "projects" were inhabited by whites as opposed to blacks? What about illegitimacy and school drop out rates? Or business start-ups?

*Section 8 housing: residents of the inner cities are moved into the suburbs. Surges in crime are then reported matching the neighborhoods into which the Section 8 recipients have moved. Same population density, different crime rates. Is the difference in the racial composition of the populations?

* South Africa: ever since the end of its "ignorant" apartheid policy, SA has had one some of the highest murder and violent crime rates in the world. Blacks commit a disproportionate amount of this crime (like just about all), including some really grisly torture-murders. How can this be when the country is now enacting enlightened liberal and marxist policies such as one-man-one-vote, affirmative action, land grabs, and the dismantling of Boer culture? Could it be that apartheid era "ignorant" race based policies were more effective in controlling crime? Or that a white-run police force was more efficient and less corrupt?

These are real questions, but how often are they raised or answered in public forums?

Anonymous said...

We ain't living in Hyde Park...that is funny since Comrade Sobama the red rat sold his condo he had there for almost 500,000$. You know that great champion of the middle class who is going to bless us with 20 new taxes to pay for the "free" healthcare.

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

If you feel so strong about it then why not stand up for what you think is fair? Fear of suppression? Didn't stop the most notorious advocates who stood up for what they believed in. Anyone who is scared to to stand behind their idea doesn't deserve to be heard.
Liberals suppressing ideas is just as bad but all it shows is none are perfect. Humanity as a whole isn't perfect

You're incorrect about Rhodesia. They had a "governing white minority" as it is referred too. The white population were 100,000 at best in a total population of 6,00,000; density wasn't even close. Bad example, it's like saying that if whites of America would've gave newly freed slaves their own country to govern; would be a disaster. Lack of knowledge, enexperience, lack of diplomacy, etc. Creates a bad government. Sad to say but people have to be taught; All third world countries.

-Loc

AnalogMan said...

Loc, please bear with me, liberal argument confuses me. Are you saying that crime in WV among poor Whites is low because population density is low, whereas Zimbabwe is a disaster because, er, population density is low? (Incidentally, the White population of Rhodesia at the height of the bush war was about 250,000. It's less than a tenth of that now).

You say, "Anyone who is scared to stand behind their idea doesn't deserve to be heard." On the other hand, if anyone does stand behind his ideas, and if you don't agree with his ideas, you and your allies are quite prepared to shout him down, assault him, and try to get him fired from his job. Others here have referred you to the experiences of Jared Taylor. Why don't you go over to amren.com and read about his speech at Towson University this week? Check the archives, too, and read about the last two annual conferences that were cancelled due to intimidation of the hosts. Or google "Tinley Park restaurant attack".

We don't have access to media to present our ideas - or, we didn't, before the internet. Now, what you see here is a growing (daily) group of people who are standing up for our ideas. You'd be amazed how many of us are former liberals like you who came here to mock the knuckle-dragging troglodytes, and stayed to learn.

Stick around. If you have any intellectual integrity, you may also learn something.

Jay in DC said...

Robert S. Oculus III said...
"There will be no Redeker Plan. The Race War will be fought block by block and house by house in the streets of our cities. And whites will lose, because we won't be fighting crackheads, welfare sows, and idiot gangbangers. We'll be fighting the U.S. Army and the federalized National Guard, not to mention Homeland Security and drones and God only knows who and what else.

We can't run. There's no place to run, to. We can't fight. All the militiamen in the world will lose against real soldiers equipped with tanks, artillery, automatic weapons, and air support.

The only way the Good Guys win is if the military comes in our our side. And what are the odds of that, do you think? Take a look at the Army we have now and tell me you see in them a force that is ready to take the side of the people against the almighty Chain of Command.

Then think of Waco... on every block in your neighborhood."

Poetry.

As much as I rabidly agree with most everyone SBPDL there is also this sort of odd feeling there that somehow people are going to rise up and take it all back. That is NOT going to happen for a number of reasons. The largest of which is simply risk analysis. A few posts up someone mentioned that when you have "only after you've lost everything are you free to do anything". In my experience this is a truism with the exception of the highly indoctrinated mind by religion, state-psychosis, etc. but by and large, the biggest risk takers have no real things of value so the stakes of the gamble are generally favorable.

So what I see in this forum frequently is an argument predicated on the fact that suddenly White People are going to Riiiiiise up! Yeah, no. It will never happen. We are just going to become Brazil and are in a downhill slide towards it right now.

You have a contingent here that welcomes the Race War that will never come and have been prepping for it for decades. You have the contingent that thinks ths viewpoints of most of this site's readership are more than a fraction of 1% of America. You have the contingent that thinks because many White People are starting to "wake up" that they are in fact quite discriminated against on a daily basis, they will act.

They will not. Period. People are Sheep. And Americans are some of the most fattened lambs who will do anything to avoid the slaughter. You think Disgusting Fatbody Soccer Dad and his portly Dancing with the Stars watching Sow are going to risk the level of comfort they have for ANYTHING? It is comical to even think about. And as Oculus pointed out even IF this revolution arose it would be summarily crushed under the War Machine that is the US Armed Forces spearheaded by the "Population Control Unit", Dept of Homeland Security.

The US is a Police State, has been for a while. Expatriation is the solution of the rational who see the reality that the vast majority of us see every day.

Mr. Rational said...

With all due respect to Robert S. Oculus and Jay in DC, I think they're missing the elephant in the room here.  The attack on the Branch Davidians was only possible because they were a tiny sect in a specific place.

The US government cannot have Waco on every block; the manpower and resources don't exist.  Further, there's a big organizational and logistical tail behind the teeth in an operation like Waco.  When the people back there engage in sabotage or just refuse to do their jobs, the teeth rot and fall out.

Negro Fatigue is already rampant among Whites and Asians.  News of Black mob attacks gets out despite the best efforts of the MSM to suppress them.  The government would lose support very quickly if it tried to use police power against Whites defending their families and neighborhoods against Blacks, and it wouldn't take too many burning police stations before the civil authorities would retreat to protecting themselves instead of going on the offensive on behalf of criminals.  That leaves the Feds, and if the NG refused orders to call up it would be woefully short of hands even if the regular army would follow orders.  Add the discontents among the reservists who would know exactly how the military machine's gears can be brought to a halt with thrown sabots, and I don't see any quick end on Washington's terms.  That favors Whites; as in Afghanistan, you win just by not losing.

Anonymous said...

we moved to Australia many years ago, somewhat in anticipation of what was happening to the US.

my wife & daughter have citizenship and i will within the year. yes, it also suffers from multiculti BUT it is overwhelmingly white, beautiful and prosperous

there are some places to go that are western and civilized

Anonymous said...

I'm black & a non liberal.

I dislike politics & the government.

I'm from poverty stricken streets and still reside there; I know what is going on & why it's going on.

I see flaws in my race ass a whole as well as all other races as whole; which is why it's just a flaw in humanity altogether.

I also think that using arrest data to support an argument that is pro or against races is insufficient & inconclusive due to heavy variables like racial profiling.

I'm saying that the white population of Rhodesia was only a small fraction compared to the black population.

Silent Running said...

With all due respect to Robert S. Oculus and Jay in DC

Actually, Jay in DC can be safely ignored. He's long been one of the most vocal advocates for fleeing the country in favor of Eastern Europe, and has consistently failed to address any of the points raised in dissent. As I wrote in a retort to AV that was not posted, these people are fanatically strident about the state of their people not because it is objectively true, but because of their own personal desire. They prefer that all of us be doomed so that they can live a guilt-free permanent vacation as foreigners in someone else's country.

After all, if it turns out we're not doomed, how will the expats be remembered?

Oddly enough, he hasn't picked up and moved yet. But I'm sure he doesn't lack the strength of his convictions. I eagerly await the first report from utopian Hungary, or Belarus, or Latvia, or wherever the poor kid ends up.

Mr. Rational replied to Jay with facts based on our own recent history and the greater history of guerrilla warfare. Jay will ignore these facts, and simply pop up in another thread to repeat the same tired message of Doom & Despair. In this, he is indistinguishable from the DWL. Beware.

Californian said...

Loc said: You're incorrect about Rhodesia. They had a "governing white minority" as it is referred too. The white population were 100,000 at best in a total population of 6,00,000; density wasn't even close. Bad example, it's like saying that if whites of America would've gave newly freed slaves their own country to govern; would be a disaster. Lack of knowledge, enexperience, lack of diplomacy, etc. Creates a bad government. Sad to say but people have to be taught; All third world countries.


Loc, my point was that the decisive factor was not "population density" but who runs the polity. Rhodesia under white rule was a functional country (despite international sanctions and a guerrilla war). Zimbabwe under black majority rule has been a disaster. Same country, same population, same density, same environment, same resources, plus, after the end of the Ian Smith era, Zimbabwe had the advantage of international support. The results of black rule: despotism, economic collapse, massacre of political undesirables, ethnic cleansing of whites, and etc.

There actually were blacks in the Ian Smith days who had education, experience and diplomatic skills, such as Bishop Muzorewa, and who worked with the whites. But because these blacks were not involved with marxist terrorist organizations like ZAPU, the Western world for some perverse reason did not want them running the country (no more than do black leaders or DWLs want a Walter Williams or Thomas Sowell to have too much of a say in the USA).

Look at the bigger picture. Population density, environment, resources, etc., are often used to explain away dysfunctions in black run polities. But why is it that when controlling for all these factors, as in Rhodesia versus Zimbabwe, you end up with wildly divergent results between black and white run countries?

Or look at America:

Detroit, a city that was once a showpiece of American ingenuity, is today disintegrating. Crime, public services, the economy, houses, even the streetlights are going out. Blacks had inherited a fully functional municipality, with plenty of infrastructure, good schools, and a cultural tradition. American blacks had the advantage not only of education, but plenty of governmental programs as well as the full support of the national media. And once the white population (with its alleged ignorance and racism) had been removed from the city, certainly Detroit's potential should have been unleashed. This did not happen.

Can it be that race is a determining factor?

Race realists claim that racial factors include such things as IQ, future time orientation, impulse control, and individual responsibility. These would appear to be necessary to maintain a civilization.

Here is something for you to consider: what if race actually is a reality? Then what? What policies would you recommend to salvage a city such as Detroit?

Silent Running said...

I see neither of my retorts to the expats have been posted. Got a soft spot there, Paul?

Anonymous said...

Silent Running, if you mean your comment from October 3, if you search for your name you'll see it above.  I recall reading it in sequence.

Anonymous said...

I over heard a young black woman sales clerk in a down town Chicago store tell another black worker that they should let the black women have earlier shifts and white women the later shifts. She mentioned how she feared getting off late and returning to her south side neighborhood at night. It reminded me when I worked for the City of Chicago. I was assigned neighborhoods that the black women were too afraid to venture into. One of the neighborhoods just happened to be Englewood. There are some really good old black folks there but they are trapped by the violent undertow. Several older blacks told me that when they call to complain about crime, they fear for their safety.

Anonymous said...

I think the anti-war movement in the sixties is a likely scenario. Then, youth fear and loathing of the war machine eventually led to burning armed forces' recruiting storefronts. This insurrectionist mentality was taken seriously by the military. It sensed the future for a citizen army looked very bleak were this to continue. It didn't want to sacrifice that, and it didn't want a lurking hostile presence especially amongst the educated white ( potential officer class) people to drag on. We live in a media saturated society. That in itself renders a long dragged out anti government campaign disproportionately effective.

Anonymous said...

Loc doesn't know what population density is. He appears to confuse population density with with a demographic ratio.

Anonymous said...

If black people are obsessed with killing what are white people obsessed with? Hello? Who starts wars over oil and invade foreign nations only to decimate an entire race of indigenous people? WHITE RACIST PIGS! All of a sudden you all are so civilized. Sure-until the next object of your desire. What will it be next? Afghan lithium reserves? You people need to get your head out of your asses and realize you all are no effin better!

Discard said...

Anon at 6:48 PM who thinks that Whites are no better than Blacks: Nobody here thinks that Whites are without sin, but anybody with half a brain can tell at a glance that we are far better than Blacks, in every measurement that matters. About 15 years ago, 800,000 Tutsis were killed by Hutus, using machetes. Imagine how much killing they'd be able to accomplish if they were as smart as Whites.
Blacks as a group are dumb and brutish, on a level with the bottom 5th of Whites. African Blacks are even worse. Pay attention to the world outside rather than your professors. And get off the computer if you don't like the White race that created it and everything else that makes your life so easy.

Mr. Rational said...

You people need to get your head out of your asses and realize you all are no effin better!

"You people"... isn't that "racist" when a White person says it?

The Stupid (and the double standard, and everything else)... It Burns.

rjp said...

I hate Walter Jacobson. Every time I see him walking down my street I can only think of crushing that nose just for the damage the piece of shit has done to this country. He lives somewhere very close to me.

For a bunch of self proclaimed theives, you would think they would try to get a job on Wall Street.

You got to be able to do numbers in your head to work on the street, they can't. There are no negros (other than low level exchange employees) at end of La Salle Street in Chicago (CME/CBOT, CBOE). I work there.

I made a joke up in my mind a while back when watching a female security guard a BankAmerica play with a calculator: "I bet she is trying to figure out if the -absolute value- of a tertiary derivative can be negative."

Get it?

Every single gang-banger can get into college, or at least a tech program, should he or she get e GED. They will get full-rides or loans to do so. They need to learn to speak, write, do 9th grade algebra, and behave. This isn't too much to expect, and for tech programs they likely don't need any of this.

Are you fucking serious? I think maybe, maybe 5% of AA's might be able to do 9th grade algebra. A person has to be at least be able to do that to be a carpenter, plumber, almost any union trade.

negroes are natural born janitors.

But the illegals came in to sanctuary shities like Shitcago and said we will do it cheaper and we are already unionized via the scumbag SIEU and our pay rate is going to be less and we have benefits like a prepaid debit card.