How much does it cost to treat the victims of Black violence in Chicago? |
The Chicago Sun Times reported that a new "violence tax" (read: the tax "law-abiding whites must pay to own guns because black and brown people use illegal guns to shot one another" must pony up) is being considered in Cook County. It is in this story that yet another aspect of the sunk cost that black America represents is found [Cook County mulling violence tax on guns and ammunition, 10-9-12]:
Drawing the ire of the gun lobby, Cook County Board President Preckwinkle is eyeing a violence tax on guns and ammunition sold in the city and suburbs, the Chicago Sun-Times has learned.$52,000 to treat a gunshot victim?And doctors and nurses at Stroger Hospital in Chicago, a taxpayer funded county hospital, mend up black and brown victims of black and brown gun crime to the tune of 7-out-of-10 of these citizens not having health insurance?
“If we were to pursue a tax on something like guns and ammo, clearly that wouldn’t be popular with the [gun lobby] out there, and it may not generate $50 million, but ... it is consistent with our commitment to pursuing violence reduction in the city and in the county,” Kurt Summers, Preckwinkle’s chief of staff, said on Monday.
“Now on top of that, if a person is shot and wounded, they end up more than likely in a Level 1 trauma Center like Stroger Hospital,” he said, of the main taxpayer-funded county hospital.
The cost to treat a gunshot victim, without insurance, is pegged at $52,000, Summers said. And 70 percent of gunshot victims don’t have health insurance, he says.
Can we try and figure out how much the black and brown gang violence/mayhem is costing the taxpayers who fund the Stroger Hospital? Well, we can try and come up with an estimate of the Diversity Tax primarily white taxpayers pay to treat the targets - mostly gang members themselves - of bullets fired from the gun barrel that belongs to a black or brown gang member [In Chicago hospital, "collateral damage" of gang war never subsides, CBS NEWS, by Dean Reynolds, 7-9-12]:
Mayor Rahm Emanuel on Monday announced a new attack on gangs, including a plan to board up or tear down the abandoned buildings they use to run their operations. But the violence continues to take it's toll, as CBS News learned from the front lines in a major hospital.
At the Cook County Trauma Center in Chicago's Stroger Hospital, one ambulance after another delivers victims of the gang violence that just won't stop.
In the midst of the mayhem is Dr. Fred Starr, who was in charge of the unit the weekend we visited.Alright, for the sake of arguments, let's assume that "stabbings" cost roughly the same to treat in Stroger Hospital. 70 percent of 1500 is 1050 stabbings/shooting victims treated who don't have insurance (if we assume that those stabbed also lack health insurance at the same rate).
"I've seen more people probably this year who have been caught in the crossfire, or you know, caught a stray bullet and that certainly is alarming," Starr said. He said he's angry at the violence adding, "When I see the children -- I have two children of my own, and it certainly makes it very personal for me."
The unit treats about 1,500 gunshots and stabbings a year.
At $52,000 a pop to treat these individuals, you are looking at $54.6 million/a year that the taxpayers who fund Stroger Hospital pay to subsidize the treatment of primarily black or brown gun shot/stabbing victims in Chicago.
This is but a microcosm of the Diversity Tax white people must pay in Black-Run America (BRA). And this is only hospital in Chicago.
One.
But what about the costs associated with caring for the gunshot victim after they leave the hospital (a stay courtesy of you, dear taxpayer)? Well, we have those statistics as well [The Cost of Crime: Perteet's rehab journey, ABC 7 NEWS Chicago, 2-6-12]:
The emotional battle of a young gunshot victim in Chicago has been waged for two years now, but you may not realize his tragedy ends up costing us all.
His mom helps Ondelee Perteet limber up. He's about to show how far he's come since a bullet to the spine rendered him a quadriplegic.
He exercises at home now after two years of therapy at Schwab Rehabilitation Hospital. In Perteet's case, like many others, Medicaid pays the bill. For this kind of injury, that easily reaches $250,000 and up.
It affects you as a taxpayer," said Deetreena Perteet, Ondelee's mother. "Your taxpayer money to care for him."
Deetreena Perteet is painfully aware. She had to leave her job to become a full-time caregiver. Add her lost income to the equation.How do you qualify Onedelee's potential? Odds are one of two paths: a scholarship for some athletic event or jail/probation.
University of Chicago's Dr. Jens Ludwig has done extensive research on the cost of gun violence: the life-time of medical care, the chairs, the walkers, vehicles, income lost.
"Medical costs turn out to be just a small part of the larger picture," Ludwig said. "The total cost to society on average per gunshot wound is on the order of $1 million per gunshot injury, total social costs."
"The cost of these disabilities goes far beyond dollars, it moves into the realm of lost potential," said Dr. Lisa Thornton of Schwab Rehabilitation Hospital.
Where would Ondelee Perteet be headed were it not for what a young man with a gun did? That's for wondering. What's important, as Dr Thornton would say, is what happens in the now.
Now, just extrapolate this one lone story of Onedelee, son of Deetreena, and you understand how quickly the Diversity Tax begins to add up. It's a ledger that continue to be in the red indefinitely.
What about some other hospitals in Chicago that take care of primarily insurance-less black and brown, the victims of gangland (well, black or brown) violence? Here to provide the answer is the Medill Reports, a publication of the Medill School at Northwestern University [The costs of a bullet start mounting the moment the trigger is pulled, 2-10-2009]
One emergency room physician looks at today’s victims of gun violence and sees 1944. World War II. The senselessness of young men shooting at each other.
The first tab in the ledger starts with the ambulance and emergency medical services. According to the Chicago Fire Department, a gunshot wound requires either what is called an Advanced Life Support 1 run or an ALS 2 run.What a waste indeed. Of public resources that would have been better spent on repairing infrastructure of Chicago, cleaning up communities, building parks, and R&D style projects on such things as cheap renewable energy and public transportation.
An ALS 1 run is $775; an ALS 2 run, which is reserved for more severe wounds, is $950.
The Fire Department also charges $14 a mile for transport to a hospital and an additional $100 for non-Chicago residents. This doesn’t even take into account the varying costs associated with first responders and other EMS personal.
The Fire Department bills the people they transport, but one official said the chance of the bill being paid is slim.
Mount Sinai Hospital on Chicago’s Southwest side admitted 1,779 patients to its trauma center in 2009. Thirty-five percent of those had been shot or stabbed. On average, each gunshot victim that Mount Sinai treats, according to the hospital, costs an average of $12,000 to care for, with a majority of these patients uninsured or on Medicaid.
“From the second you walk in, to an ambulance, to care rendered to the patient, the supplies, the cost of anesthesia and surgery, [you’re being charged],” Mount Sinai Chief Financial Officer Chuck Weis said. “And what we don’t even account for in [that number] is if they received any follow up rehabilitation.”
But with about 72 percent of its trauma victims being uninsured or relying on Medicaid or Medicare, the avenues a hospital can take to recoup the money spent on trauma care are few.
Compared to the state of Illinois, in 2008, just over 14 percent of people were without health insurance.
The Illinois Crime Victims Compensation Act provides up to $27,000 in financial assistance, but you must meet certain requirements to be eligible.
Medicaid and Medicare both have pre-determined financial figures depending on the type of trauma case. And for a hospital that relies so heavily on people qualifying for all three types of aid such as Mount Sinai, Weis said, receiving any type of compensation is a victory in itself.
“Self-pay [such as Medicaid] often becomes no-pay,” Weis said. “And in many cases the individual that comes in won’t even cooperate with our financial department because they have no interest in doing so. They know they’re gone in three days and that’s the last they’ll see of Mount Sinai.
In 2009, uncompensated care at Mount Sinai accounted for $35 million.
Just 10 miles to the north of Mount Sinai is another Level I trauma hospital, Illinois Masonic Medical Center. On average, they see between 1,400 and 1,500 trauma victims a year. About 20 percent of those victims have been shot or stabbed. Similar to Mount Sinai, Illinois Masonic operates on the notion that it will end the year financially in the red.
“This is not a money-making venture,” said Sharon Ward, director of emergency trauma and EMS at Illinois Masonic. “The best you can hope for is to break even. Most trauma centers lose money and you know that going into the year.”
Despite tremendous obstacles these hospitals face in breaking even, nothing quite compares to the impact felt by the loved ones of gunshot victims.
“It’s horrifying, it’s literally horrifying,” DeLucia, the St. Louis physician, said.
“Families are hollering, crying, and here you have this young man. One second, he’s healthy, having a good time, maybe going out to meet some friends or go to work, and then you’re calling the family to tell them to come to the ER. Within a second, you’re telling them their [loved one is] dead or severely wounded. The family literally screams, cries and throws themselves to floor. They’re in total disbelief. It’s such a waste”
All things that aren't possible when you have to pay the Diversity Tax. Remember: this is just a glimpse into the cost of violence transferred to the taxpayer in Chicago.
One city.
Kansas City and Milwaukee could be the source of this information as well. Or New Orleans. Even Lancaster, Pennsylvania.
But you will only find this story in Chicago, where black activists demanded that hospitals near areas populated with high concentrations of black people "have better emergency service"; a hilarious admission that these black-areas are communities in name-only [Protesters: U Of C Hospital Must Treat Gunshot Victims, CBS Chicago, 8-15-2011]:
Protesters camped out at the University of Chicago Medical Center on Monday, calling for better emergency care on the city’s South Side.
As CBS 2’s Susanna Song reports, on Aug. 14 of last year, community activist Damian Turner was hit by gunfire in a drive-by shooting at 61st Street and Cottage Grove Avenue. The 18-year-old was an unintended target.
The U of C Medical Center lies just a few blocks away. But because the hospital does not have a trauma center equipped to treat most gunshot victims, paramedics had to drive him to Northwestern Memorial Hospital, about 10 miles away, in the Streeterville neighborhood.
There are four trauma centers in the city – Northwestern, Advocate Illinois Masonic Medical Center, Stroger Hospital of Cook County, and Mt. Sinai Hospital. Pediatric units are housed at Mt. Sinai, the U of C’s Comer Children’s Hospital, and Children’s Memorial Hospital.40 adult trauma centers in the Chicago area.
Currently, there is no adult trauma center on the South Side. Still, many in the medical community say Chicagoans — no matter where they live — are far from under-served.
In fact, according to the Illinois Department of Public Health, the Chicago area has more than 40 adult trauma centers. Compare that to neighboring Indiana, which has just seven to serve the entire state.
Forty. This is the Diversity Tax personified.
Chicago Ideas Week (CIW) will have panel after panel of speakers blaming some form of white privilege for the failure of black students in the Chicago Public Schools (CPS) system; a panel on why white flight contributes to high rates of crime in the city; and a panel on institutional racism keeping communities like 99 percent black Englewood from succeeding.
The panel that is sorely needed is the one that poses this question: Who will pay the Diversity Tax when white people vacate Chicago as they did Detroit? What about in 2040, when black and brown fecundity (combined) overwhelm the white majority of America and turn us into a plurality? Who pays it then?
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"University of Chicago Medical Center."
Where Michelle Obama once had a $300,000 a year do-nothing "job."
It's going to take a little imagination and work but all you too can pull a John Galt, and until you do this will continue. Enjoy your fucking until you finally have enough and join the Galt crew.
Blacks and Browns view the government as one giant, never emptying piggy bank. They have no idea that there are financial costs associated with services. To them, if there are not enough services the government can just provide some out of thin air -*poof* a trauma center. They have no idea that SOMEONE has to PAY for the construction and upkeep of the new trauma center. They have no idea that SOMEONE has to PAY elevated salaries to trauma surgeons and ER doctors. They have no idea that that the SOMEONE is the White tax payer. They have NEVER made the connection between tax revenue and social services, NEVER. They really must think the government is MAGIC. IF the government fails to provide for them it HAS TO BE RACISM because it could not be lack of funds because the government is a magic piggy bank of infinite wealth to them. I guess the Blacks and Browns think that the White man just used the government to enrich himself, hoarding all the government given wealth and giving nothing to the poor minorities. They really think that if they could just take over the government they would be able to turn the money hoses on the black areas and *poof* the blacks are just as wealthy as the Whites.
They MUST know that there are fundamental differences between White government and black/brown government. They understand implicitly that they must take over "White governments" in order to get paid. There is a reason that blacks are not flocking to Black Run Detroit to get paid by the black government for doing nothing.
You know, if Obamacare's death panel properly pegged the contribution to society of these vermin as a negative number, and ordered no care be given, it might actually be worthwhile. But it's more likely that whites would be denied care while at the same time being forced to pay for the care of these precious black and brown gangsters.
Back during the Roaring '20s, Chicago had a reputation for gangland violence. This was largely due to Prohibition. That violence ended in part after the repeal of Prohibition, and in part because citizens regained control of their own city.
The thing about today's violence in Chicago (and many other American cities) is that there is no similar path to ending the shoot-em-ups. Why? For one thing, the middle class citizen base is largely disintegrating or has been pushed out of its own neighborhoods and into the suburbs--thanks to the usual suspects. You also did not have the mindlock that modern liberalism has had on too much of the political and opinion making class. Civic leaders way back when were willing to consider real alternatives, not just the same old failed DWL programs whose practical results have been to lay waste an increasing number of American cities.
Another alternative: ending the war on drugs. This might have had some impact a generation or two ago in removing some of the Prohibition-style violence. But I'd give you that today the gangs are too well embedded, and the welfare system too entrenched, to cause any significant change. Underlying the dysfunctions are things such as the destruction of the family, the failure to maintain academic standards, and the promotion of incompetence thanks to affirmative action. The Prohibition mobsters were quasi-middle class affairs (heck, they even wore suits and hats!), not the inner city warlord-insurgent bands you have today.
It just may be that cities such as Chicago will continue their disintegration into a future of Blade Runner/Minority Report/Judge Dredd. To see another Chicago, though, we can always watch reruns of the old Bob Newhart show...
It is critical that we understand the power of words. Just as a magician uses slight of hand diversions to trick the audience into thinking that they are seeing something different than that which actually occurred, the PTB and their lickspittle mouth pieces in the media use deceptive words to trick the public.
"Gun violence" is a perfect example. No gun anywhere at anytime has ever caused an act of violence. But the phrase is used to deflect the people's attention away from the real problem. And we all here know what that problem is: minority violence. And by minority I do not mean left handed people.
Blacks/browns commit these acts of violence because they are out of their element. These creatures are in a society that can only function when the IQ of the average citizen is at least 100. They fail in this regard. And this society can only operate/produce if there is an understanding of respecting the rights and property of others, Again, they fail.
And they fail again in the fact that primitive peoples simply should not have access to technology that they themselves could not produce, i.e. firearms.
Add to that ban on access to advanced technology modern medical techniques. Do not give them MRI's, X rays, anesthesia, modern surgical procedures, etc. Let them use their ancient tribal ways. Witch Doctor dancing and goat piss should heal them ok...
Until we have black independence from the "evil Whitey", it should be a capitol crime for a black to possess a firearm of any type.
Let natural selection take place and DON'T treat the parasites. Let their gene pool die off and you've solved half of the problem.
they fail again in the fact that primitive peoples simply should not have access to technology that they themselves could not produce, i.e. firearms.
Also automobiles, cell phones, televisions, clothing made of synthetic fibers? A bit severe. Let them trade raw materials for those things... if they are willing to go back to Africa, where the resources are.
A tax on new guns could/should be used to fund marksmanship classes for the undertow.
Blck thug scum like are nothing more than harmful parasites on the buttocks of society. From the moment of their Medicaid-paid births, they sap the system like ticks suck blood from dogs. The working taxpayer foots 100% of the bill for these waste products. These thugs' cost in food stamps, public housing, free school lunches, special education schooling, and "short-bus" school transportation all deplete society's resources. Then, when they become old enough to become dangerous, they additionally cost the system a FORTUNE in legal, medical, and incarceration expenses. These pieces of dirt represent a solid argument for abortion and sterilization.
I am very curious about the inter connection of things in BRA. At one time it was normal for criminals in prison to perform some type of work. Many places this has been deemed illegal due to the Liberal courts as Cruel and Unusual punishment. As usual the tax payers are left to pay any victim compensation.
I have no doubt the UCLA and NAACP lobbied to find prison work details as inherently racist and cruel and unusual. This leaves no way for the incarcerated to pay off the victim restitution.
I suggest that if you are found guilty of a crime that not only do you do time but must work to pay for your own incarceration and the victim compensation.
I know this will never happen so I'll just file it under "If I Ruled the World."
Best case scenario is when the victim dies.
Negroes are just pricing themselves out of society. We can't afford them anymore.
If a shooting victim is picked up by an ambulance the driver should take the long way to the hospital….. maybe stop on the way for a cup of coffee…….
Maybe there is a way to subtly give negroes the idea to use much larger caliber guns….. maybe encourage them to use sawed off shotguns at close range.
Negroes are a menace to society.
'45jack
Lol, what an awesome idea!
Black Chicagoans angry as hell at Obama, say "End of White Guilt" is bad for blacks...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2942096/posts#comment
From Occidental Dissent today. A great read. Now we have it in writing.
My two year old son is 100% Disabled. I collected around $400/month so far this year in benefits. He's also on Medicaid because my Insurance booted him off for reaching the "lifetime maximum benefit".
I went out & got two part time jobs in addition to my full time Fire/EMS career to makes ends meet. The bastards at the Social Security Administration now want all of his yearly benefit repaid & kicked him off Medicaid.
All to pay for a bunch of non-working, worthless niggers.
Let the collapse happen. I want retribution.
@ SoCal Snowman - Give these people another few years, and they might elevate the government to the status of the John Frum Cargo Cult - complete with the wish for the white devils to leave their lands, while leaving behind all of his stuff.
We've already seen examples of this with "Obama money" and "Obama phones."
Thanks Paul.
Now I have freakin' Bon Jovi stuck in my head. Just as bad as the jeopardy theme.
'effed up names? Check.
Obese single mom? Check.
Victimization? Check.
Public burden? Check.
At least Ondelee won't be able to pursue a life of crime (other than what he steals from the taxpayers) unless he uses his sail fone.
At least,Al Capone wore nice suits.
Chicago-The untouchable city
My guess is serious fights over money start NOW. Already in Texas, 3/4 of all people under 18 are non-White, mostly Mexican. The non-White, Mexican/Black population wants all sorts of nice things, they don't want to live in Brazil, but fairly nice (by Brazilian standards) ghettos with clean, running water, power all day, food that won't kill you, and clean and efficient hospitals.
Those things are becoming unaffordable. In Detroit they are out of reach, likely Chicago too at this point and we just don't know it. Hence various power grabs, "Regional Equity" and all that.
Reaching into the White middle class (Barbara Streisand, Bon Jovi, George Clooney, and Oprah won't be paying) wallet and extracting well, everything.
That will stimulate one hell of a fight. It probably already has.
In Greece, the Golden Dawn (they could be Neo Nazis, I don't know) has copied the Muslim Brotherhood's approach -- replace the failed State which does not provide safety (from Pakistani, Bangladeshi, African, and Syrian refugees/immigrants), health care, education, or much else. Golden Dawn will walk pensioners back and forth to banks, and to shops, provide police patrols, beat up drug dealers/pimps/muggers and force them out of Greek areas. [One might ask why Bangladeshi and Pakistani and African people are in Greece anyway, but that would be "racist."]
Bottom up organizing, providing all the things a mono-ethnic state used to provide but collapsed under a "diverse" population seems to be the only way to replace the PC tyranny, just as the Brotherhood (who are otherwise just scum and behind the murder of US Ambassador Stevens, who was after all the symbol of the US and all of us) outlasted and ousted Nasser, Sadat, and Mubarak.
The answer is not likely to be found in GOP politics, not because everyone ran away from the Ghost of Lee Atwater, but Lee Atwater's approach doesn't work in a divided White electorate getting smaller every day; a great many Whites are just fine with "making Whitey pay" and being employed taking care of a Black gunshot victim/gang-banger; laughably trying to educate him, and so on. Rather the answer is bottom-up organizing and supplanting the state in ruins with something new.
I don't vote. Haven't for twenty years. But really, the forces at work are so immense. You would think that maybe it would be better if Obama gets his 2nd term and the whole monstrosity begins to implode. Correction: implodes more quickly. But then who knows what lengths leviathan will go to to keep its grip on power and its financial rape of whites ongoing? Collapse. But then what? Yes, a small percentage of whites will make Boer-like treks to the remaining white enclaves and possibly even make a successful stand against the central government. But most whites will end slaves. In much worse slavery than the present situation, bad as it is. I'm rambling because I don't see any light up ahead. Maybe a better mind does?
"My guess is serious fights over money start NOW. Already in Texas, 3/4 of all people under 18 are non-White, mostly Mexican. The non-White, Mexican/Black population wants all sorts of nice things, they don't want to live in Brazil, but fairly nice (by Brazilian standards) ghettos with clean, running water, power all day, food that won't kill you, and clean and efficient hospitals"
IF SOUTH TEXAS WERE A STATE, ITS PRESENT BIRTHRATE WOULD TOP
ALL 50 STATES AND PR. OF CANADA.
In the water closet yesterday and heard a news report on the radio that a court ruled in favor of the victims of a gun crime being able to sue the gun company. It was some Saturday night special flea market gun maker but that is a dangerous precedent to set especially with the Marxist Muslime p.o.s. in office.
Whiskey,
Great comments as usual the only problem is in Greece the immigrant criminals are not well armed. Don't think for a minuet a White organization starts to try and implement the Golden Dawn stratagem they won't be sniped and drive by-ed.
I'm not advocating gun control but we are dealing with retarded, violent, animals who have been given carte blanche to do as they please. They have access to guns and are more than willing to use them for the slightest provocation.
I like your idea but to work we would need a security force on the roof tops ready to return fire.
Taxes from those blacks who actually pay them should be earmarked for the care of their black brethren. In other words, blacks should be the ones supporting or otherwise paying for the other blacks. White peoples' taxes should only go towards helping other whites. This would make the system fair. Worthless riff-raff sure are expensive, aren't they?
Helping/healing black gang bangers ....
What an utterly pointless endeavor.
From the Kevin Shitavius DuJan screed posted at Repuke Rim-Job's Conservatism, Inc. site, the Orwellian-named "Free-Republic":
Look, you just have to understand that if there’s a chance to vote for someone who looks like us on a ticket, especially for president, we ain’t gonna vote for no Romney. You put Allen West on a ticket some time and you’ll have blacks forgetting they were ever Democrat. Put that Mia Love on a ticket and watch blacks go nuts for her as VP or something in the future. Democrat Party “Who?” they will say because if you look at the skin and it looks like yours that’s just how you vote. This is the truth. Am I lying?,” one older Thinker asked the table.
This is pure, unadulterated crap. I have absolute proof of it. In 2004, the very obviously black (and obviously American) Alan Keyes ran against Half-breed Housenigga Hussein from Hawaii (by way of Indonesia) for the open US Senate seat - which was miraculously abandoned after a single term by a popular (and genuinely conservative) Republican named Peter Fitzgerald. It was a Chrissie Matthews wet-dream race: you can vote however you want as long as its black. The groids of Illinois voted for the mulatto by a huge margin, as all they ever do is pull the "D" lever when told by a "Reverend", Ward Boss, banksta or whoever is giving the orders.
Excellent article, Paul. You asked who will pay the medical bills when blacks and browns overwhelm the white majority?
That's a no-brainer. Alinsky-esque Regional Equity is on its way, right now.
The wealthy Chicago Northern suburbs, Winnetka, Lake Forest, Oak Park, et al., are ripe for tax revenue redistribution pickings.
Couple of years ago, a flatbed truck load of Chicago inner city black students demonstrated at Winnetka's New Trier High School on the first day of school. They expressed resentment that the school is so successful, well financed, well staffed, and ranks as one of the top ten in the nation and their schools are shit holes.
What they don't get is it that parents and community create this by investing time and energy in their kids' educations. It's not magic. It takes work. Blacks just can't figure that out. The answer to them is simple: if you've befouled your habitat, trashed your amenities, and you look over there and see something nice that whitey created, they owe you. Gibsmedat......or ELSE.
We owe them nothing. Stand pat, Northern suburbs.
Nameispointless said...
"...The answer to them is simple: if you've befouled your habitat, trashed your amenities, and you look over there and see something nice that whitey created, they owe you. Gibsmedat......or ELSE.
We owe them nothing. Stand pat, Northern suburbs."
Did you just create a new meme? It could be called, "slash and burn education."
Amazing article Paul. So CAL Snowman, even if the tax eaters understood that other (mostly white) people are paying for their upkeep cradle to grave, they couldn't care less. They're glad to stick it to whitey. Very selfish, immature, jealous people to say the least.
Cloward Piven...
Has been set into action in the 60s, and has been ratcheted up with BaRACK.
Don't lose focus on the method here in play.
Pony up taxpayers, Shitavious and LaTrina are exceptional and will grow up to be an afflete and a breeding sow.
To Anon with the disabled child...appeal, appeal, appeal. They apply for their trouble making kids and win. The SSI for children program has become a racket for them. It's for truly disabled children like your son.
To Anon with the disabled child...appeal, appeal, appeal.
I second this. Virtually everyone gets denied at first. You have to lodge at least one appeal, and often more. I have a family member who is seriously mentally ill, and he went through this same thing. You might even want to hire a lawyer. When you eventually win your appeal, they pay you back benefits to the time of your initial application in a large lump sum. There are many lawyers who will work on contingency of this lump sum.
So CAL Snowman: Perfectly beautiful assessment! In just a few words, you captured the entire core dysfunction of the black mentality.
Black Americans have their own version of the South Pacific Cargo Cult and being the stupid creatures that they are, no one will ever be able to enlighten them. They're about two steps away from dancing around a straw replica of an airplane and praying to the spirits to "gibs us back all da cargo da white man done stoled from us!"
The fact that these retarded creatures were ever brought to these shores is the biggest mistake this nation ever made.
Numerically it would probably make more sense to tax 'blackness' -- make every black person pay some kind of tax. Because I would imagine a very sizable majority of guns and ammunition sold retail in the area are purchased by law-abiding people, mostly non-black.
Not that any of this makes sense.
Maybe it's just me, but when I see a scene like that -- lots of nice, well-educated, dedicated, decent, etc etc non-black medical professionals working to save the life of someone who is none of those things, including, not unimportantly, not non-black -- in fact the person being worked on is likely exactly the opposite of all that, i.e absolute scum -- I feel revulsion and disgust.
The cost to treat a gunshot victim, without insurance, is pegged at $52,000, Summers said.
I've been screaming about this ever since I arrived at this website. Does anyone think this will be the only gunshot wound that the typical gangbanger receives? Try multiplying that number a few times and then add in a couple of cycles through the justice system with similar costs per court case and incarceration expenses per yer. Half a million dollars gets racked up pretty quickly when these thugs come out to play.
His mom helps Ondelee Perteet limber up. He's about to show how far he's come since a bullet to the spine rendered him a quadriplegic.
He exercises at home now after two years of therapy at Schwab Rehabilitation Hospital. In Perteet's case, like many others, Medicaid pays the bill. For this kind of injury, that easily reaches $250,000 and up.
Ondelee? What is it about these ostentatious Black names that makes them such bullet magnets? I guess with a mom named Deetreena, you're going to get some sort of moron idiot monicker, sure as shooting (so to speak).
Thank goodness the little goon is quadriplegic. At least it's a lot less likely that he'll ever reproduce. That QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS is what just one child of his might have cost us taxpayers.
"The total cost to society on average per gunshot wound is on the order of $1 million per gunshot injury, total social costs."
There you have it, folks. ONE DAMN MILLION DOLLARS per bullet.
And these lunatics at city hall think that taxing law-abiding citizens for their purchases of guns and ammunition is some sort of solution to the problem of minority criminality. Go figure.
"The cost of these disabilities goes far beyond dollars, it moves into the realm of lost potential," said Dr. Lisa Thornton of Schwab Rehabilitation Hospital.
Oh, STFU Dr. Thornton. Like these honah stoonts are gonna be astronauts or rocket scientists. Most of them have the ultimate potential of being worm food.
One emergency room physician looks at today’s victims of gun violence and sees 1944. World War II. The senselessness of young men shooting at each other.
More deceptive and delusional moral equivalency. WWII was fought for some very good reasons. Gang violence is criminality, pure and simple. There is no valid way to compare the two.
The family literally screams, cries and throws themselves to floor. They’re in total disbelief. It’s such a waste”
On top of all this stressful medical treatment, the hospital staff is treated to chimpouts. Can a job be any more thankless?
40 adult trauma centers in the Chicago area.
Al Capone would be proud.
I've worked in an ER and I've seen the spectacle of black people wailing and throwing themselves on the ground many, many times. They literally cannot be moved when this happens as many of them are very big. And, you know, it sucks that they lost a loved one and I feel for them because I lost my dad when I was a teenager (heart attack, not gunshot wound) and it was awful. But I cried privately, I didn't make a huge public scene that disrupted all the people in the waiting rooms and all the other patients in the ER. I wish they'd understand that they're not the only people in the hospital and that some calm is required for all the other people who are going through a tough time.
And sometimes the opposite happens - instead of throwing themselves on the ground, crying and screaming, they get up and stampede around, crying and screaming. I once saw a 300+ pound black woman running full tilt down a hallway screaming and sobbing, then burst into a room that WASN'T EVEN THE CORRECT ROOM.
I've come to realize that what separates civility from savagery is an ability to put a filter on your emotional expression and learn the appropriate ways to express yourself. There is a time and a place for anger, sadness, happiness, lust, etc. It doesn't seem like some people can grasp this at all.
Really the whole issue with the quad...really is just a wash. I mean what if he where still able to walk the streets? How much over his lifetime would taxpayers spend on incarceration, the judicial system, and maybe even future victims injuries etc?
Either way, him in a wheel chair or walking the streets, It would probably be a million tax payer dollars no matter what.
Zenster said: WWII was fought for some very good reasons. Gang violence is criminality, pure and simple. There is no valid way to compare the two.
Also, WWII came to an end. In a victory. The thing is, gang type violence is proving to be endless. And no victory is in sight. This despite all the attempts to "solve" the gang "problem," whether war on poverty or war on drugs. But the gangs are not a socio-economic problem which can be addressed by throwing the usual taxpayer dollars. They represent a reversion to what appears to be the standard organization for most people on this planet, which is rallying around warlord bands.
Today we are seeing a de facto acceptance of a never ending internal war within America's cities. And on top of the gangs and the flash mobs, there are the periodic urban riots. Also, I am given to understand, Europa is starting to see the same thing with its internal Third World population.
As discussed on this forum, the Western world seems to be headed towards a Blade Runner/Minority Report/Mad Max/Judge Dredd future. The funny thing is, it is fully within the power of the Western countries to prevent this from happening. They have the power to crush the upstarts. But they lack the politics to win.
Now I have freakin' Bon Jovi stuck in my head.
...you give the Loop a bad naaaaaame!
(Had to say that!)
hi zenster, it's the last white french man who talks to you:) News from france, we have now a socialist president which make everything for immigrants and gays. We have had riots inj amiens, mulhouse and no young arrested!! Today a study learns us that there is 50% of immigrants descendants since 2 generations so 50% from africa and maghreb! For me it's more than 50% concern the new generation paris will be occupied with more non white when papyboomer will die in 20/30 years. We live a genocid without war.Everyday i think for my children, what country will they see, tehy will be victims (dhimmis)of islam. We have more and more salafists arrested like mohamed mehra.Bye
Whiskey's comment is important:
In Greece, the Golden Dawn (they could be Neo Nazis, I don't know) has copied the Muslim Brotherhood's approach -- replace the failed State which does not provide safety (from Pakistani, Bangladeshi, African, and Syrian refugees/immigrants), health care, education, or much else. Golden Dawn will walk pensioners back and forth to banks, and to shops, provide police patrols, beat up drug dealers/pimps/muggers and force them out of Greek areas.
In the ongoing US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, it's called "SWET"—sewage, water, electricity, trash removal. Insurgencies which have succeeded need an ideology which is connected to what the people want. But they also have to provide the service which can out-compete those of the opposition. Ideas alone recruit only small numbers of people. People are more likely to enlist with your movement if you can get the lights working and the water running. In Cold War jargon, it's called "providing an alternative infrastructure."
Right now we are seeing something like this emerge in the US: militia movements, home schooling, alternative media (thank you Internet!). It's due in part to the failure of the system (government-corporations-education). More people are realizing that the system not only fails to provide for their needs, it is actively hostile to their interests. But these movements are all over the political map.
What's needed is an ideological line which can unify these various alternative movements into a political force.
California: The thing is, gang type violence is proving to be endless. And no victory is in sight. This despite all the attempts to "solve" the gang "problem," whether war on poverty or war on drugs.
Gang violence is not endless, save with respect to itself. Its own potential for internecine quarreling is near-infinite and limited only by the available pool of participants.
In this and another respect, it is exactly like Islam. There is no possibility of a "negotiated peace" as there is no absolute ruler (e.g., the Pope) who can speak for all parties. Also, the only "end" to such perpetual predation is through brutal and massively disproportionate retaliation. In both cases, it is useful to eliminate the "aristocracy" as a starting point but, like it or not, the only successful long-term measure involves posing an existential threat to one's opponent.
Once this become apparent to Western civilization, approaches such as internment and mass deportation will suddenly be regarded as the more benign solutions that they truly are. Until then, the reality will largely be constant mayhem being wrought upon an increasingly armed White population that will more and more often unhesitatingly respond with lethal force.
blanc de seine saint denis: We live [in] a genocide without war.
Absolument! So good to hear from you, mon ami.
This is, intentionally or not, the ultimate outcome of demographic displacement by minorities and it presages some form of ethnic partitioning, if not cleansing (in the worst case), should Western civilization wish to survive.
The Other Islamic Bomb.
Incidentally, just posting the foregoing cartoon at blog sites has seen British citizens get arrested for "hate speech". This, despite how jihadists openly proclaim that, "The wombs of our women will give us victory."
The West has just a few short decades to purchase a clue before we are dispossessed of the legacy our forefathers begat us.
"A tax on new guns could/should be used to fund marksmanship classes for the undertow." - Unfortunately visuospatial processing is part of IQ.
It's not magic
Any technology sufficiently advanced will appear as magic just as any society more advanced than the groidopolis will appear as magic to the groidopolians.
@Zenster: This phrase is quite likely familer to you;
At the siege of Vienna in 1683 Islam seemed poised to overrun Christian Europe.
We are in a new phase of a very old war.
The only to beat back islam is to quite literally BEAT IT BACK.
I'm sick and tired of looking for ''good blacks'' and ''good muslims''. Screw it, none of them are good, NONE.
They are enemies, and they can't be here anymore.
No, they can't ''go to Disney World''. It's ''off limits'' to them.
And they've proven why.
@ Mutant Swarm
Thanks for the link to the John Frum Cargo Cult. Very informative and interesting. I especially liked this :
"After the war, and the departure of the Americans, followers of John Frum built symbolic landing strips to encourage American aeroplanes to once again land and bring them "cargo".
Gang violence is not endless, save with respect to itself. Its own potential for internecine quarreling is near-infinite and limited only by the available pool of participants.
Right. But gang violence will not be ended by the current political policies. They have failed to defeat the gangs--then again, they have failed to maintain former cities such as Detroit. It will take that much talked about paradigm shift before American can move forward.
"Taxes from those blacks who actually pay them should be earmarked for the care of their black brethren. In other words, blacks should be the ones supporting or otherwise paying for the other blacks. White peoples' taxes should only go towards helping other whites."
I have long said the same thing. Blacks and Latinos want to make EVERYTHING about race, ok let's make it about race. White taxes pay for White social services, taxes paid by Blacks pay for social services for Blacks and the same for Latinos. These minorities vote for their own people so let them pay for their own people!!!!!!
To Anon with a disabled child-
As the others said appeal. If all else fails, write a letter or call pretending to be Black and scream "Dis be racis".
Anonymous observes:
Really the whole issue with the quad...really is just a wash. I mean what if he where still able to walk the streets? How much over his lifetime would taxpayers spend on incarceration, the judicial system, and maybe even future victims injuries etc?
Either way, him in a wheel chair or walking the streets, It would probably be a million tax payer dollars no matter what.
Absolutely superb point. YT gets to pay no matter what. You know who doesn't really pay, though? The oligarchs. As the late Leona Helmsley observed: "only little people pay taxes". The folks who run the magic money-machine can create money at the literal touch of a button for themselves and their pals (all carefully laundered through a convoluted system naturally). Even if they pay lots of taxes on paper, it's nothing to them as all they have to do is take a spin through Uncle Ben's trash-for-cash discount window. Groids and the inevitable visible black hand of economic ruin are but another means to loot the country - to suck it dry as a spider sucks the life out of the hapless creatures caught in its web.
YIH: The only to beat back islam is to quite literally BEAT IT BACK.
Just as with Blacks, Islam demands to be paid in its own bloody coin. Both Blacks and Muslims abjectly refuse to wholesomely participate in modern (i.e., White) civilization. Their expulsion will probably require methods which closely parallel their own practices. It is something that they insist upon and we would be churlish to deny them their wish.
I'm sick and tired of looking for "good blacks" and "good muslims". Screw it, none of them are good, NONE.
As is so often the case, the exception proves the rule. As in:
Even if there are "good" Blacks or Muslims they are so statistically insignificant as to be useless. Plus, their intrinsic unreliability makes them a double hazard to such an extent that there is no way to justify the fuss and bother of vetting them for inclusion.
Californian: But gang violence will not be ended by the current political policies.
That is not even in dispute. Please pardon me if I seemed to make it appear so. As usual, your own observations are spot on.
It's interesting how there are so many gunshot injuries. Their criminal records make it difficult to purchase high quality ammo and weapons, especially ammo. Gangs are probably stuck with handloads and practice ammo, ammunition that is relatively weak and unreliable. That is why you have so many injuries.
Groids shot by police never survive. That is what expensive hollow point ammo does.
@anon 12:41: what separates civility from savagery is an ability to put a filter on your emotional expression and learn the appropriate ways to express yourself.
I see black sows demonstrate over the top screaming, wailing, loud histrionic sobbing and throwing self on the floor so much that I could puke.
A room full of otherwise quiet onlookers doesn't have the slightest influence on thoughts of self-control, or the impact such disruptive behavior might have on others who may be dealing with their own pain, grief or angst.
In an attempt to assess just what this is about, I've deliberately made a practice of observing it in detached, mental slow motion.
My conclusion is that any element of an appropriate grief process is lost in the exposition of wild theatrics. It is just another version of competitive "looks at me," similar to the negro woman's eeking and ooking behavior that caused her to be tossed out of her daughter's graduation ceremony.
The ER mama is not about to let the drama of her kid's gunshot wound upstage her and the chance to stage her own show.
She is a child-woman with no impulse control, a stranger to decorum and common decency. Such people should not be allowed to breed.
It's interesting how there are so many gunshot injuries. Their criminal records make it difficult to purchase high quality ammo and weapons, especially ammo. Gangs are probably stuck with handloads and practice ammo, ammunition that is relatively weak and unreliable. That is why you have so many injuries.
Not really. Ammo can be bought in most jurisdictions in this country with no background check and no forms to fill out. It's very easily available.
Groids shot by police never survive. That is what expensive hollow point ammo does.
Again, not really. Stopping power and killing power are two different animals, and hollow point ammo was designed for stopping power. Ironically, though ball ammo is less likely to immediately stop a threat, it's actually more likely to kill someone, because it's more likely to punch clean through a target and thus leave more wound area for the target to lose blood out of.
With all the hype about diversity being touted we should be ARMPIT deep in UTOPIA by now, but empty promises from elitists about multiculturalism have left our schools, cities, and society in ruins.
The media has created an illusion that African Americans are the ones who will return your lost dog, hand you your wallet when you drop it, and are so cool compared to nerdy White people. It is on about every commercial now in case you have not noticed.
As important as not playing with fire or looking both ways to cross the street; parents should be teaching their children to ALWAYS stay away from African Americans.
Keeping your kids alive is far more important than being told you’re a racist, bigot or not Christian for avoiding multicultural enrichment.
Innocent, unsuspecting, and hopelessly naive Whites are mugged, raped and murdered each day. The African Americans are becoming much more violent each year. Law Enforcement seems to insure the criminals' rights are upheld far more than arresting obvious criminals. Think about your loved ones; Death is a high price to pay for an incorrect assessment of Black Crime.
In conclusion; the tsunami of violent crime in our cities, schools, and society gives tremendous credibility to those who first opposed integration.
With all the hype about diversity being touted we should be ARMPIT deep in UTOPIA by now, but empty promises from elitists about multiculturalism have left our schools, cities, and society in ruins.
Good point.
As I never tire of pointing out, we have had every last DWL civil rights and social engineering policy put into practice over the last half century. The results have been, among other things, the disintegration of cities into quasi-war zones.
Same with Europa. Mass third world immigration, bringing the good word of "diversity," ought to have revitalized the cities and reduced repression. How is that working? [Cut to video of "youths" burning cars and Geert Wilders being arrested.]
Just as DWL social engineering ought to have made cities such as Birmingham, Detroit, Newark, etc., into glittering showcases for the future. The reality has been 180 degrees to the other direction. What's even more amazing is that Americans, mostly, go along without too much thought about how these cities have been laid waste.
Future generations may see "diversity" as a 21st century form of those Medieval mass hysterias such as the cult of poverty which caused people to destroy wealth believing that they were entering the Kingdom of Heaven--and woe unto the heretic who disagreed!
DWLs, I suppose, like to see themselves as rationalists, but the reality is that they are suffering from mass delusions. Detroit, after a half century of black majority rule, is taking on the appearance of a city devastated by the Mongols (though at least the Mongols were able to enforce law and order). That is not how DWLs view it, of course. To them, Detroit has been a showpiece in the struggle against "racism," and if the street lights are not working then it only shows how much further we have to go until America is the new earthly paradise. Meantime, television will show us images of that magic Kingdom of Diversity. Believe, brothers and sisters, believe, because look at how heretics such as Phil Rushton got the business.
Well, the Western world survived the Middle Ages. We had the Renaissance, and we had the Industrial and Scientific Revolutions. There may still be time to restore rationality to the system today. While there are still some American cities left standing.
A fight between coaches at a peewee football game was caught on tape.
You know what to expect, right?
Back in the 1860s Slaves cost the equivalent of $40 000.
Obsolete farm equipment were not worth it then nor the $52 000 per shooting they cost now.
Grandma even gets to blame poverty for the fight.
Typical natural afleet POV.
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