Responsibility.
Maintenance.
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A homeowner must understand when they purchase a house, they become accountable and responsible for the maintenance of the property, especially if they hope to see it appreciate in value (let alone keep its value).
Not only is the homeowner accountable for the appearance of their home, but the value of the neighborhood is the responsibility of all members of the community if they hope see the long-term value in their respective properties mature (hence, homeowner fees and community standards on the upkeep of yards and appearance of the house).
Which brings us to the Musicians' Village in New Orleans. The Village Voice called this Habitat for Humanity project the, "largest-scale, highest-profile, and biggest-budget rebuilding project to have gotten underway in the eight months post-Katrina."
The great fear that Hurricane Katrina would displace blacks from New Orleans prompted such civic minded (sic) individuals like Harry Connick Jr. to galvanize the community and ensure black musicians had a place to hang their hat in the city, courtesy of accommodations built primarily by white volunteers and paid for via donations from white donors.
These black musicians didn't even have to put in 'sweat equity' to build their homes, instead (in the words of Jim Pate, the executive director of the New Orleans area Habitat for Humanity):
"We'd hope some of our musician partner families could do some of their sweat equity by doing performances or concerts for some of our volunteers."As is true of all Habitat properties, though, three basic criteria were required for residence in the Musicians' Village: Need for Shelter, Ability to Pay, and Willingness to Partner.
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| Yes... it was almost entirely white volunteers (and donations from white people) that helped build the Musicians' Village in New Orleans |
What happens in 2013, when one of the residents of the Musicians' Village sees a $2300 estimate from a contractor for general maintenance to their home? [Musicians' Village residents say homes are falling apart,WWLTV.com,9-22-13]
Dozens of New Orleans musicians and their families displaced by Katrina moved into newly built the Upper 9th Ward homes. The partnership with Habitat For Humanity was aimed at keeping our musical culture in the city.
Now some residents say their homes are falling apart.
"We've got a nice cushy neighborhood, but your home is rotting in front of you," said homeowner Rhonda Ford.
Rows of vibrantly painted homes make up the Musicians' Village. The development is where Ford purchased her house back in 2009 and is now locked into a 30-year-mortgage.
The first-time home buyer was a supporter of Habitat for Humanity and its mission to help low-income families get a permanent roof over their head. She has had a change of heart.
"It's still a great cause, but you have to do things right and in order. You cannot put up stuff. It's misuse of people's donations," said Ford, who is frustrated by signs of rotting wood on window trims and her front steps.
In July, she paid more than $300 for a home inspection confirming her biggest fears. She has reached out to Habitat for Humanity only to be told her property is no longer under warranty. Ford says estimates show it will cost around $2,000 to replace the rotten wood.
"Basically for New Orleans the type of wood they use is going to not only make my home rot, but my neighbors in this area and anywhere Habitat built," said Ford.
Neighbors like trumpet player Shamarr Allen are experiencing the same thing.
"It's bad," he said, pointing to his front stairs. "It's like a sponge."
Two years ago, Allen considered building an extension onto his house but was told by contractors that some of the decaying wood had to go. So, the musician says he reached out to the builder.
"I called Habitat and told them that the wood was bad and they changed one board, on one board window. They said they were coming back and never came back and finished the rest of it," said Allen.
Habitat for Humanity says prospective home buyers are required to take classes that include financial fitness and basic upkeep of a home.
"We reiterate to all homeowners, you gotta take care of your house, caulk it, seal it, if you see anything that's not looking at 100 percent right. Look at it and treat it then," said Aleis Tusa with New Orleans Area Habitat for Humanity.
The organization confirms it is familiar with Ford's complaints but defends its building practices.
"All our buildings is to code. We go through the same city inspections that everyone else goes through. Everything we feel is built really well," added Tusa.
Accountability.
Responsibility.
Understand why Detroit in 2013, an 83 percent black city, has so much residential blight?
Look no further than the Musicians' Village in New Orleans, a project of Habitat for Humanity, and a perfect example of why Shelley vs. Kraemer was the most destructive Supreme Court decision ever handed down
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Their idea of Sweat Equity is to possibly, maybe, if you're lucky you white cracker, we'll jiggle a tambourine and toot a horn while YOU slave away on our new home. I understand that you don't want them jumping in with a hammer and tape measure, without some basic construction or carpentry skills; but for fucks' sake, offer to at least carry the lumber, buckets of nails, cement bags, Gatorade, anything, to the workers. I guess that's just it: they won't do it for fucks' sake, because they just don't give a fuck. And neither should we.
"We've got a nice cushy neighborhood"
I always chuckle at the use of "cushy" in relation to blacks (usually, their "cushy jobs"). The Israeli version of the N word is "cushi", an abbreviation of Cushite, what the scientists call Hominidus Negroidus.
It's also nice to know their homes were "vibrantly painted".
I don't know guys, this seems like shoddy materials, lowest bidder stuff. 5 years and it's rotting? I wouldn't put up with that on my home (and I don't paint every 5 years)
In my opinion, this was a lefty do gooder group building houses for headlines, not these people.
I've got negro fatigue as much as anyone here, but this situation is likely not lack of maintanence, but incompetence on the builders - and this was a government sponsored project - wasn't it?
Riverside-Rob
Nothing is a surprise anymore. In fact, this behavior is to be expected. It's the wages of the handout. We are a nation of handouts. We're sick and we're doomed.
There's no shame, no self-awareness, no sense of duty, no decorum, no decency.
OT. There is a tremendous rush to buy so-called assault weapons in Maryland before the ban kicks in on 10/1. The state can't handle the onslaught of background checks. People are voting with their actions.
Nothing is a surprise anymore. In fact, this behavior is to be expected. It's the wages of the handout. We are a nation of handouts. We're sick and we're doomed.
There's no shame, no self-awareness, no sense of duty, no decorum, no decency.
OT. There is a tremendous rush to buy so-called assault weapons in Maryland before the ban kicks in on 10/1. The state can't handle the onslaught of background checks. People are voting with their actions.
But Paul, Whites have not even done enough!
I mean, here is a perfect dovetail to the NEED for White suffering:
http://trueslant.com/megancottrell/2009/10/21/do-white-families-deserve-the-crime-section-8-tenants-bring-with-them/
The answer based on the comments section? HA!
Average comment (10mm Extreme SARCASM MODE:
"Of course White people deserve it, because you want to uphold that constitution thingy, it is so old and outdated, penned by old white men who owned slaves and probably beat their wives while teaching their 3 year old how to kill innocent little wild animals with a gun while shooting native americans at little big horn. I mean, like totally bogus! Didn’t they know about Tofu? Couldn’t they grow soy? I saw a movie about the Trail of Tears and no one ever suffered like the Jews did in 1929. And Obama said that he was constrained from helping people because of the constitution. I mean how stupid is that! I mean OMG! I mean, the only thing old Whites have going for them is at the time (I think 1300 BCE or something) , they were forced to grow organic, which the Indians taught them before they were executed on Thanksgiving Day. Nice present!
Black dudes are so hip and stuff with a cool language! And I met a really nice Latino guy who was so totally awesome because he could speak Spanish and was into Che! Whites never had to struggle, except for that last war against the Asians, which we lost, so I can understand why people want to come here and experience all our diversity! And we have plenty of land so if the black guys want to split off “New Africa” and the Latinos want to split off “Aztlan”, I say do it dude! But some whites are against this and I think they are so racist and they need to be sent somewhere and be re-educated. My Cultural Studies Professor H. Schlomo from the Temple Schmuck-el told me that we are all immigrants, except Whites who stole the land away from peaceful people. I mean, how can you be that way when race is a totally social construct! I mean like wow!
-Average College Student-
We must do more!
I couldn't ever accept a house that another man built for me.
Groids just don't get it and never will.
Frickin' priceless.
Help me understand...these people were basically GIVEN homes, and now they're complaining abut upkeep and maintenance? Jesus God in Heaven.. NO WONDER African civilization is still in the Stone Age compared to European civilization.
Go to Home Depot.
Purchase pre-made trim boards made out of paint grade PVC or extruded styrene.
Install with coated or stainless steel nails / screws. Use 35 year rated silicon-acrylic caulk.
You will eliminate the rot problem and probably won't have to worry about the trim for years to come.
Untreated wood can go bad in a few years, especially in a high humidity environment. I had the same issue on the family home in VT.
As far as maintenance goes, the rot was a minor issue, easily fixed using the material I stated above.
I had a $150K house built outside of Indianapolis to get away from "my people" and I can tell you that I've yet to find caulk that lasts 4 years. In fact, I find myself re-caulking the exterior every couple of years because of the hot summers and cold winters. It's called routine maintenance.
-IWSB in Indy
Its a wonder they are able to keep up mud huts in their homelands. To think there are still a few 2000+yo still working aqueducts that survived the 2 world wars to help provide water to European cities.
On this one I'm with the New Orleans homeowners. Building in New Orleans requires either very expensive chemically treated high-pressure wood, or Cypress (the latter almost impossible to get save salvage).
There are houses built from swamp Cypress and Cedar in the 1820's still standing. That particular wood is about the only stuff termites which abound in New Orleans and the humidity won't destroy within a year.
Habitat for Humanity guys know nothing about the challenges of building in Gulf. I would not have ANYTHING in the Gulf that was not entirely of steel and concrete, myself, no matter how ugly, due to the termite infestation particularly the Formosan which will eat through plaster. Literally.
You really have to live down there to see how the weather and bugs just rot everything out really, really fast.
The real problem is likely not trim, but structural. Support beams I'd guarantee are rotting out, next big storm not even a hurricane and the house falls down.
White people work, black people stand around and don't work and play.
See this video, especially 1:24 to 1:28. Watch carefully.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJEzCN5kfJE
This was a common complaint at the Pruitt-Igoes, which in fact you all saw when SBPDL screened Myth awhile back. The tenants complained that the relevant government authorities didn't budget any money for maintenance. When they don't realize that's what tenant rent was for.
Hey whiskey - shoddy construction or not, it was better than the football-stadium-turned-Mogadishu they were infesting before do-gooder white folks came in and BUILT HOUSES FOR THEM..... If you build something for blacks, its not termites you have to worry about, its blacks....
friggin' nigs-- bitch & moan
point taken on the YT retards who put up a veritable potemkin village tho
ridiculous socialist approach to solving a real world problem...
DWL & Jeebus YTs throw up a piece of shit house that's painted "vibrantly"-- hugs all around CHECK
houses fall to shit soon after CHECK
nigs bitch & moan; demand YT do sumpin! CHECK
Feds provide money to another POS building group CHECK
repeat cycle ad infinitum...
Give 'em a fish and you'll feed 'em for a day. Teach them to fish and you'll feed 'em for a lifetime.
Exception to the rule.
Lazy and spiteful Negroes will take from the white man and give nothing in return; nothing with the exception of suffering, mayhem, destruction, chaos and confusion. All the while thinking that that we owe them for dee slabery of dee past.
Damn those slavers straight to Hell for bringing this on the white race.
Whiskey said: On this one I'm with the New Orleans homeowners.
+1. If I understood the video correctly, those homes are only 4 years old. This is a matter of of shoddy construction (inappropriate material), not homeowner neglect.
A Sikh professor from Columbia University was savagely beaten by a pack of 15+ teenagers on the corner of 110th St. and Malcolm X Boulevard in NYC. They knocked his teeth out, fractured his jaw, and stabbed him in the arm.
The first news article I read about this story did not mention the race of the perps. I had to look through half a dozen articles in order to find a mention of race.
In his first comments since the brutal attack, Singh tells BuzzFeed that he doesn’t remember much about the suspects — except that most were African-American — yet he says the police investigation and catching the attackers is not foremost on his mind.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/adriancarrasquillo/sikh-american-columbia-university-professor-beaten-in-appare
Wait, what?! Where's Big Bertha Lewis? Didn't these Black teens get the memo about the coming Black-immigrant alliance? These Black teens just assaulted an immigrant, a fellow minority, who happens to be a self-identified progressive, and beat him into a pulp. That's odd. The media teaches us that Black people are really laid-back and down with everyone. They certainly don't perpetrate random, orgiastic acts of spontaneous mob violence.
Singh says the reaction to this attack should not be anger or hatred, but the love and compassion that his tradition teaches the Sikh community.
Dr. Singh, you don't get it. If you do, you are so thoroughly indoctrinated you'll never admit it. This type of violence is practically exclusively the province of people of African descent. They get a physiological rush-euphoria off of sadistic violence. It's not social structures or policies or the legacy of this or that. It's genetics. DNA. Tens of thousands of years of evolutionary pressures. The more you bang your ahead against this reality with your attempts at utopian social engineering, the more innocent people will suffer. Be a man and confront reality.
Yeah, I blame liberals though-
We live under 100 miles north west of N.O. and our home ( rental ) had a similar " wood rot" issue. Because the property is under 5 yrs old the builder repaired ( some of ) it for free.
He said that they used better wood prior to 2008 but that EPA regs now prohibit its use.
Kind of funny ....
Leftist ideas have crushing consequences. Always.
"What fools we mortals be" this excludes those of the black race who not only expect but demand everything be handed to them on a platter and when that runs out please provide more. If there is no brain there is no gain but a great deal of pain they give to others. Let them self implode before they cause you to explode and vanish from this planet.
I am sure most people, GIVEN a house,would have NO PROBLEM doing simple maintenance.Most people would be so overjoyed to be given a fucking house,that they would find a way to obtain whatever material needed to put the house back right.They would get knowledgeable friends to help,go to the library,whatever it took,and get it fixed.Learning from what they fixed,they would then know what to do to arrest and treat other existing problems.All this would be done with no fanfare,media contact,or other 'looks at me' behavior.It is proven over and over and over-You just cannot do ANYTHING for niggers without making more problems than you started with.It is never enough,never good enough,not fast enough,etc.It never once flickers through their dim heads to do something for themselves-they have been trained to believe someone else will always do it,and they are usually right.What a fucking mess. Richard Cranium
Help me understand...these people were basically GIVEN homes, and now they're complaining abut upkeep and maintenance? Jesus God in Heaven.. NO WONDER African civilization is still in the Stone Age compared to European civilization.
You got it. They have basically been given homes.
And they're complaining about upkeep and maintenance.
Habitat for Humanity just finished putting up about a half a dozen houses in easy walking distance of my hootch. Across the main drag from me,granted,but the main drag is only really busy in the morning and evenings,and the Main Drag here is still a two lane street.
Can anyone guess why I'm not at all thrilled to see these homes becoming occupied?
The idiot from Habitat who commented for this article clearly doesn,t know the difference between having to use pressure-treated lumber ("PT") for structural elements vs the homeowner needing to "treat" wood to stave off rot.
She doesn't seem to understand what PT is (typically pine infused by pressure with preservative chemicals) and why you have to build with it in New Orleans. Periodically applying Thompson's Water Seal to ordinary pine -- that kind of "treating" will be a losing battle in NO. Dumb builders!
. If I understood the video correctly, those homes are only 4 years old. This is a matter of of shoddy construction (inappropriate material), not homeowner neglect.
OK,having read all the way thru the replies,I'm willing to concede that there might be an issue here and that the saintly burrheaded folk might ( emphasis on "might" ) not be totally in the wrong this time.
There's a solution to the bugs. The solution is called a chicken.
The reason that a lot of the farmhouses built totally of wood around here lasted for upwards of a century with no one ever calling the exterminator is simple. Oma knew that letting the chickens run around under the house cured a lot of the bug problem. The chickens ate the termites before the termites had a chance to get established. So it was a threefer;
Eggs
Fried Chicken
Pest control. All at once.
If some chickens were emplaced in that hood,and set to work doing what their tiny little brains are hardwired to do,at least some of this issue might just be solved.
And think-seriously,think,just for a moment-of the absolute gold mine of humor that would result from experimenting with avian pest control.
Just let your imagination work for a bit. Backyard chickens,black neighborhood with a hardcore urban population,accusations of stereotyping,the oddball chicken snake come to look for a meal.
World Star Hip Hop might be hard pressed posting the resulting videos,seriously....
Florida guy...
The homes aren't free. There are few upfront costs, but these homeowners have 30-year mortgages.
Wolfhounds said...
"NO Brain, No Gain"
how do you say that in Ebonics?
Now you can get corner and trim board made of concrete. Like Hardi-Board, but thicker. I just had my chimney repaired with it. No mold or rot because there's nothing organic, and accepts paint lime wood. I'm certain it was invented by negros. Cut it with an angle grinder and nail. Or prime and paint some replacement pine and patch a small piece in. It's a $30 or less DIY repair. Oh, wait. Thought I was posting on a carpentry site. This one is about negros. Forget it...
GG
Reference Anonymous asked at 6:34 pm: No Brain no gain.....answer in African native tongue: "we's being doing de's, we's being doing dat...honkey give me dat! Or words to that effect. 30 plus years forced to learn the native tongue of blacks in the military and with regrets about 10 years relearning the fine, cultural speech of the inner city black while toiling in the vineyards of the government. Doctors, rocket scientists, world class lawyers, water bed testers, and other "skilled jobs" they aspire to be. Always remember during the Korean War the all-black 24th Inf's Regimental motto was: "We're moving out, we're bugging out" as the fled to the rear doing their usual habit of "raping & running".
I did a lot of work for Habitat in Hawaii. Not out of some political orientation, but because I like carpentry, own tools and had time on my hands. These were not negroes, but pretty close. They were a mixture of haloes (generally white) and some mix of hawaiians. Same deal, they were lazy as shit and did little on the house that was being built for them. Although in most cases they did pay a nominal mortgage to Habitat.
"Poor" people of a lot of extractions have the same "gibs me dat" as the world famous negro. It left me with a bad taste for any kind of volunteer work.
90210
I had to watch this twice [at 120-125] to see the blacks at the hoops, YTs doin the volunteerism.
Whats really funny is the lib YT at the end, talking culture.
AGAIN PEOPLE...BEING A DAD IS VOLUNTEER WORK.
Whats goin on in this is volunteerism...blacks dont do it.
re.
Anonymous countenance said...
White people work, black people stand around and don't work and play.
See this video, especially 1:24 to 1:28. Watch carefully.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJEzCN5kfJE
90210
also, remember, det rot is 10% YT. the volunteers, 100% Yts.
Anonymous countenance said...
White people work, black people stand around and don't work and play.
See this video, especially 1:24 to 1:28. Watch carefully.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJEzCN5kfJE
September 23, 2013 at 4:46 PM
IF you gave a negro a 20lb bar of gold, he'd bitch: "Why you gots to gibs me a gold bar? Why you not jes gibbin me cash? Mo Fo! Now I gots to carry this heavy ass shit somewhere to gets it appraised and gots to get it cashed in. Dat gonna cost me gas money and muh free time plus de appraisal cost! Why you inconveniencing me like dis? Damn cracka!"
Not so far fetched really. Back in the day (to use a negro phrase) I worked with a broke ass nigga who complained of being hungry. So, when I went to lunch, I bought him a hamburger only to have him sneer, "What? No fries wid dat?"
It was at that moment that I determined to never help a fucking nigger ever again.
Whut you say? You ain't go no sympathy for a brother?
You want sympathy? Look it up. You'll find it in the dictionary between shit and syphilis.
To hell with all of them.
Placing Homo Erectus in a dwelling will assure that the dwelling will be destroyed within five to eight years. All one has to do is look at every housing project in the nation and every Section 8 property currently occupied. They are worse than locusts, termites and fire ants combined. You could build with steel, concrete and adamantium and you'll still have a pile of rubble in a few years time.
Evba poda hep.
greatwhites,
I guess when your whole fat useless life has been calling someone else up to fix your troubles(sect-8)this is the kind of thanks colored people give back. not one free music concert, you got to be joking us. they didn't even use a f-ing hammer to put the wreath up on their front doors! now that's NGR!
just like yesterday when a SBPDL'er posted that lawn mower clip. in the background there is Leroy and his boy's shooting hoops. wonder if the useless fucks even asked to bag the scraps up? yea right?
When these dirty rotten spooks start to show signs of civility that grass and those honkey built homes would get not one drop of white race sweat. it's unbelievable in the first place that the fat ass pig bought that house and somehow thinks that the crackers she HATES are going to use their money to fix HER PROBLEMS! just like our POTUS she also had no experience in anything real in this world.
where do we go from here? cause this is the biggest heist's in the history of mankind.
ah o here comes a black woman coming towards us on this wet sidewalk better take off your jacket sweet-heart and throw it on that puddle so she don't get her air Jordan's all wet! and the lib-rat woman does just that. SUCKERS!!!
and where the hell is Centurion?
GODSPEED/SEGREGATION NATION!!!
hey p.k. good story but i will say that the habitat 4 humanity holmes that were built in detoilet did the same ,these houses were built with the cheapest wood they could find ,but still most of these people got these houses for free ,dont they have homeowners insurance in n.o..
royal oak dude..
Dear Mr Kersey:
As I toured "The Lower 9th Ward" - about a year after Katrina struck I then drove past this "Artist's Village" while it was under construction.
Psst - There were mostly WHITE FOLKS (young college students - I suspect) constructing these homes.
Now let me tell you about my cozy, racially integrated subdivision that was new construction. (Mostly Mexican's doing the wood framing, brick work and interior).
THE QUALITY OF THE WOOD and DRYWALL were the key issues in the N.O. story. The lack of warranty from the builder (Habitat For Humanity) complicated the matter.
Mr Kersey - when me and my White and Black neighbors assumed our houses - we had 1 year to report all:
* Loose screws
* Missed paint spots on the walls
* Loose wood strips
* Water leaks
YOU HAD BETTER BELIEVE that the builder got an ear full on several issues - PARTICULARLY from the "Kind White Folks".
My former (White) neighbor got the builder to cut down this 4 story tree that was right next to his house - several years beyond the initial build, this after a tree branch crashed into his garage. His lawyer argued that the tree should have been cut down in the first place.
It seems, Mr Kersey, you have a particular predilection for evaluating standard CONSUMER DEMAND FOR 'A SQUARE DEAL' and perverting it when a BLACK FACED PERSON complains.
* Habitat set the terms for the affordability of the house. Should a poor person, White or Black, be so "Thankful" that when they find INFERIOR CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS that they stay silent because of their appreciation?
* Though you have NO EVIDENCE that any of these people failed to do proper wood maintenance - wood staining, caulking, etc - you attributed the circumstance to LAZY BLACK PEOPLE.
** When the massive ePVC (?) piping scandal occurred a few years ago - the inferior plastic would degrade over time and the clean water service lines would rupture, flooding thousands of people's houses - THE MULTI-BILLION settlements for replacement and repair of extenuating damage WAS NOT BLAMED on the homeowners - as you are doing.
My dear friend Mr Keresy - I HAVE NO CONTROL OVER your choice to believe the "Genetic Inferiority" of Black people. This is done for the self-affirmation deep inside of you.
It is an entirely different matter, however, for you to see a totaled car, damaged because the wheels fell off due to faulty engineering and design from the manufacture. BUT WITH YOU upon walking up to the crash scene - YOU SEE THAT ALL FOUR DEAD OCCUPANTS IN THE CRASH ARE BLACK - and despite your knowledge about the recall on this particular car - YOU SAY:
"Its there fault. You know how those Ninjas like to do stunt driving, tipping their cars on 2 wheels. THEIR IRRESPONSIBLE behavior likely put too much stress on the lung nuts and this is why all of the wheels fell off, leading to this fatal crash.
I bet these Ninjas have learned their lesson. I, for one, am going to watch and see how many other of them do the same thing. In fact I own a used car lot on the side and I plan to sell more Blacks this model car because they like the large trunk that holds their welfare checks".
Are you a QUALIFIED judge or analyst, sir?
Imagine the condition of consumer rights protection if YOU were the only voice?
WHITE FOLKS would still have radon and PCBs in their homes.
How do you say "no brain, no gain" in ebonics?
Aspiring Rapper
This reminds of when Extreme Makeover built a house in the middle of the hood for a black family in Indianapolis. The comments on the news website from some of the volunteers were very revealing. None of the neighborhood blacks offered to volunteer and would straggle up and down the street asking when someone was going to build them a house or fix their fallen gutters, etc..
The pictures of all of the volunteers working was very revealing. I don't remember seeing a black face in the crowd.
I believe it was the Irish Savant that had a story at his blog about a fellow with no mechanical aptitude whatsoever going to South Africa to help build homes for black folk there. When it was noted that he didn't possess any of the skills required to build houses the bloke replied that it was as simple as pulling walls together then bolting them together. Anyone could do it. After processing that the do-gooder's acquaintance asked, " If it's so easy why don't the Africans build the houses themselves?"
Priceless.
The homes are free. The mortgages are affordable enough for fast-food workers to manage. Habitat builds decent stuff and charges very little and helps get loans approved.
This is about Blacks not understanding you have to maintain a wooden house in a semi-tropical climate.
Now it's a racial issue. But why haven't thousands of White Habitat home owners started complaining about wear and tear on their homes?
OT: Black crime in Indianapolis. WOW, is it bad. Several shootings this week alone.
Listen:
http://www.wibc.com/news/story.aspx?ID=2049708
This is extortion. They use black crime to build the police state. They want cops on every corner now. This is the plan.
FOP President compares the super violent Indiana Black Expo "Summer Celebration" to the FFA Future Farmers of America convention. What a freaking joke! Our city is being ruined by savage blacks, and he refuses to point out the racial facts. Broadripple, Fountain Square, Irvington, Carmel, Fishers, Noblesville, Downtown...are all WHITE AREAS being RUINED by BLACK MALES with CRIMINAL RECORD and an enabling BLACK COMMUNITY.
These white traitors are the enemy!! Another white cop was shot last night in Indianapolis - let the month long memorial begin, but don't dare mention the black plague of Indianapolis.
http://www.wibc.com/news/story.aspx?ID=2049826
OT: More white men die from Knockout King injuries.
When are you white guys going to rise up and do something to protect our society????
http://www.wnd.com/2013/09/black-on-white-beatings-leave-3-more-dead/?cat_orig=us
There are actually feral chickens running around in many parts of New Orleans, although I can't vouch for the Musician's Village in particular. The storms break them loose from chicken coops and they manage to survive quite well.
As for the type of siding used in the houses - these folks in the houses have lived here their entire lives. They should know that wood on houses rots here. Nearly every house in the city has rotting wood that constantly is in need of replacement. Other materials would be better - but again, these people have been basically GIVEN houses. When you buy or build your own house, that's when you get to make choices and havea right to complain.
But groids don't get that. It's all entitlement, gibs gibs gibs. You can never gib enuf.
This sounds perfect all the way around. Habitat built their typical crap houses with no allowance for the extreme conditions of New Orleans. All the white, liberal, idiotic volunteers got to feel all warm and superior while they sweated and blackie watched them from the shade. Now the houses are disintegrating before darkie can tear them up which is making him feel all confused and angry. I hope the termites eat those houses bottom to top and munch on the inhabitants while they sleep.
Guess what Whitey? YOU are THEIR slaves now. So get crackin and fix my shit.
"Each homeowner is responsible for paying an interest-free mortgage, normally for 20 years. Volunteer support and donations allow the housing to be sold at an affordable price. The average mortgage payment is about $550 a month."
Not free, but with no down-payment, no interest, and a mortgage payment lower than the lowest rent I have paid since the 1980s when I was single? It's as close to free as you are going to get.
But it's okay, they have achieved their goal of rallying the community (read - white liberals) to feel sorry enough for them to raise money to fix the things on their houses for them that they can't manage to raise the money to fix in spite of having some of the lowest living expenses in New Orleans. $1900 should not be a homeowner's expense that you have to cry about, scream about, and run to the news to collect money for. That's really nothing. What will happen the first time they REALLY need work done on their house?
...oh yeah, the houses will join the vast number of rotting, blighted houses that you see all over New Orleans, the ones that were here long before Katrina. Because (black) people don't fix their houses up here. It's "too hard". When they reach a state of extreme disrepair, they abandon them. Eventually, they fall down, or are torn down. I am not exaggerating this at all. Right now Hurricane katrina is mainly blamed for blight, but now this group is blaming HfH - each new group of groids will find someone else to blame for their own failures to fix up their own homes. What none of them will do is fix up their own homes while grumbling about it, which is what most white people will do. When white people behave like this, we call them trash.
Not much to say about two idiotic groups (debating whether to say "equally idiotic" groups) the blacks who whine for free or almost free everything, or the dwls who give it to them. Well, there's this, I suppose-at least HfH isn't run on money extorted from taxpayers. It does sadden and frustrate one that there white people who are this stupid.
you get what you pay for.
This is why it's wrong to refer to all of the various taxpayer-funded social programs as a "hand up instead of a handout" for blacks. They have no understanding of the concept. If something is given to them, they just expect more. Food given once must continue indefinitely. Housing (and the Hurricane Katrina FEMA trailers is a perfect example) isn't temporary, once they plop down under a roof, it's for good. Habitat for Humanity, no different from the FEMA trailers. Whites built the houses, so whites need to come maintain them.
Anon at 5:57 AM says "You can never gib enuf"...great line, I love it!
As per CF's comment about "lung nuts" on the wheels of a car.
LUNG nuts? Really?!
I can't stop laughing!
Many of the Habitat people are Christian Conservatard whites. The REAL traitors.
I know a guy who built for Habitat, then decided to purchase a 10 foreclosed houses in white suburban n'hoods after the housing crash.
He fixed them, and rented them to single black females with children, getting "direct deposit" Section-8 from Uncle Sugar. His first name is Trent, and so his black tenants called him "Mistuh Trent", LOL.
One day a black male showed up unannounced at Mistuh Trent's Whitopia residence when he was not home and scared his wife and young daughter. The blacks trashed ALL of the homes and stole the appliances. Now he is in financial trouble and the neighbors hate him.
I tried to warn him, but he did not listen. Said I was racist...
The occupants of these houses appear to be able-bodied and they have a skill, perhaps even a talent (musician). The problem, IMO, is making such a person into a charity case in order to keep him/her in New Orleans, in the first place. Let them go some where else where they might do better. Why keep anyone in New Orleans who needs charity help to stay there if they are able-bodied?
The wood does appear to be a mistake and Habitat for Humanity should know better. I live on a high hill in New Jersey and have replaced the rotten window framing with vinyl that will never need maintenance. Anywhere I can have no-maintenance products, I want that. Shouldn't the steps into the house have been concrete as well as the porch?
Re the Sikh professor talking "love and compassion" for his attackers -
This is exactly the wrong attitude if you want anything to change. Most likely, the professor is smart enough to know that if he says what would make sense (that the parents should be found and held responsible), it would make more trouble for him. So he says the usual pap and gets back to his life and protects himself better.
When you help a negro, you create a monster. What starts out on your part as an act of charity or kindness is viewed by the nigga as his right, something you owe him and an entitlement that is never-ending. Once you foolishly open that door, the nigga gibsmedat goes into hyper drive and it sees you as a well meaning fool that can be fleeced for everything it can get out of you. When you rebel against the constant gibsmedat and the drain on your time and resources (as well as your sanity and peace of mind), you will be condemned as a racist and as having an attitude against black people. The nigga will try every manipulative trick in the book to try and make you feel bad, guilty, wrong or evil in it's attempt to keep the gibs flowing. When that doesn't work, it will become hostile and start making threats in a further attempt to get you to give in to it.
When all attempts to turn you into it's personal servant, cash cow, taxi service etc fails, you simply become that "white motherfucka" who is reviled, condemned and spat upon.
That's their method of operation and until fools realize the truth of that, they'll continue to rush in to "help da nigga."
You can't help the nigga but you can help yourself by avoiding it and all it's manipulative bullshit.
Avoid the groid. Your life will be all that much better for it.
Jay Santos said: I did a lot of work for Habitat in Hawaii. Not out of some political orientation, but because I like carpentry, own tools and had time on my hands.
I helped a few times in Philadelphia about 12 years ago. Mostly white volunteers, some young browns doing community service as part of a sentence, or being paid a nominal wage to get them to learn a trade (IF i recall correctly). (I remember scampering around a third-story roof frame without health insurance... not something I would do now.).
The majority of volunterrs showing up were useless (think mid-20's, chubby DWL female grad students). Climb? Lift? Hammer? Ha! Not much work got done, and although they meant well, it really was about the DWL volunteers getting a warm and fuzzy about themselves. I figured my time was better spent sleeping late.
Jay Santos said: "Poor" people of a lot of extractions have the same "gibs me dat" as the world famous negro.
Not my experience. While a lot of people who are poor are poor for a reason (laziness, poor decisions, lack of discipline, etc.), I have only ever seen American negros with the gibsmedat mentality. Even the caribbean and actual African negros seem to be able to work up at least the appearance of gratitude.
From murderbymedia:
Racial IQ gaps persist in school testing.
Blame Whitey.
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2013/09/22/wide-racial-gap-persists-in-testing.html
Jay Santos said: "Poor" people of a lot of extractions have the same "gibs me dat" as the world famous negro.
Not my experience. While a lot of people who are poor are poor for a reason (laziness, poor decisions, lack of discipline, etc.), I have only ever seen American negros with the gibsmedat mentality.
Never seen any lazy non-negroes? Mmmkay.
Anonymous said...
Jay Santos said: "Poor" people of a lot of extractions have the same "gibs me dat" as the world famous negro.
Not my experience. While a lot of people who are poor are poor for a reason (laziness, poor decisions, lack of discipline, etc.), I have only ever seen American negros with the gibsmedat mentality.
Never seen any lazy non-negroes? Mmmkay.
September 24, 2013 at 9:57 AM
What's your problem? He actually referenced "laziness" in the actual quote you quoted.
Anon said
What's your problem? He actually referenced "laziness" in the actual quote you quoted.
Because it's a moronic statement. I see black dysfunction with crystal clarity and I despise their violence and general destruction to my country. But to suggest they are the only ones who want free shit is stupid.
Related topic: Although this appears in a Ministry of Truth outlet (meaning that one must always, at every moment, consider the source), it is nonetheless revealing about the essentially religious nature of the DWL, how DWL females (especially) are subject to the very same cheap emotional tricks employed by "Christian" mountebanks and con-artists known as televangelists.
Anonymous 10:30 AM said: I see black dysfunction with crystal clarity and I despise their violence and general destruction to my country. But to suggest they are the only ones who want free shit is stupid.
You misunderstood. Lots of people (including me) WANT free stuff. Negros EXPECT and DEMAND it. The sense of entitlement is truly bizarre, considering what a burden they are as a group.
As per CF's comment about "lung nuts" on the wheels of a car.
LUNG nuts? Really?!
They allow the tires to breathe.
Ahem.
Mr. Clean said...
Jay Santos said: "Poor" people of a lot of extractions have the same "gibs me dat" as the world famous negro.
Not my experience. While a lot of people who are poor are poor for a reason (laziness, poor decisions, lack of discipline, etc.), I have only ever seen American negros with the gibsmedat mentality. Even the caribbean and actual African negros seem to be able to work up at least the appearance of gratitude.
Well Hawaii is unique as it has a long history as a kind of plantation society. By that I mean the whole society, excluding the upper class, is used to getting lots of free goodies, especially from the Feds. I think it's the second or third highest state in terms of general welfare payments. The good thing is there are very few negroes living there. The bad thing is the people who are lazy and expect "gibs me dat" span a bunch of races. There's a lot of hate YT there, but it results in less actual overt violence against YT.
Anonymous @ 8:04 AM
"Many of the Habitat people are Christian Conservatard whites. The REAL traitors."
You could not be more right about that point. Where I live, every spring, the little white Christian church denominations all band together and go do "charity" work for the black neighborhoods in our city.
It just makes me want to vomit. Not because I am a mean selfish person. I would kindly help someone I know to be down on his/her luck. I would feel joy doing it.
Today's Christians are the white man's worst enemy. What can you do about that?
Anonymous 11:03 AM said:
LUNG nuts? Really?!
They allow the tires to breathe.
Of course! Tires need air.
Something tells me CF is on a police watch list. You know--the serial kind. Kind of creepy. No Joke.
This is going to be one of those rare times when I'm somewhat in agreement with Constructive Feedback.
A bunch of DWL goofballs doth not a carpenter make. Yes HFH has skilled tradesmen as crew leads but still... These houses face the problem that all DWL sentiment does. Feeeeeelings are most important. Tensile strength of wood under conditions of high humidity with indigenous wood burrowing critters everywhere? Bah! That is "engineering" or logic, or something. Who cares! Those musicians have homes and that feels SUPER!
Now, all that out of the way, even if they'd have used proper material and hired people who actually know which side of the hammer drives the fucking nail, we'd be having this same conversation just a few years down the road.
Contrary to CF's rosy picture, our brown friends tend to take REALLY bad care of property. Drive through any hood for evidence of such. CF apparently lives in a DWL community so he is immune to the vast majority of how his "peeps" actually live and maintain their domiciles.
I've used It's Time for a while now. Tired of it. My name is Julie. From this point forward my handle/name is Julie.
Geez, Thanks for Da brand new car, mistuh! But now I beez havin' a problem wit it. Ebery times I drive it it needs GAS. i be needin you fo' to gibs me gas money. Fo'eva.
This is a perfect example of why DWL should not try to help raise the standard of living of blacks.
1) They don't know what they're doing, giving the recipients cause for complaint. The wood frame houses destroyed by Katrina were made of cypress and heart pine, both woods that termites, fungus and other wood destroying organisms tend to avoid. It is true that Formosa termites eat anything, but the houses had some natural resistance before and now they have none.
2) The recipients of the homes do not keep them up.
In any event, NOLA is the wrong placer to spend federal dollars. It will eventually give way to the Gulf.
As for the natives, I have been searching for the correct term, and I believe ape-people is the best. There are some blacks, usually black/white mixtures, who possess human decency. The overwhelming majority behave exactly like the name implies, apes who demonstrate some human characteristics. Not ready for civilization.
My negro fatigue is in full force.
Just like blacks. Get a free house then complain it's not good enough!! If it needs some work, stop complaining! Get off your butt and fix it!
Look i get what p.k. is trying to say ,whether its free or has a low cost mortage,being a homeowner means you will have to fix & repair as needed,i think the point p.k. is trying to get across is that its never enough for blacks & it never is,my washer broke this past week is the govt, going to replace it for me hell no thing is as a white man i understand that i have to do things like buy my own food ,gas for my car pay my rent wipe my own ass because no one is going to help me ,so i must take care of myself thats the point p.k. is trying to get across GET IT!! pissed off royal oak dude ..
Home upkeep is civilization. Blacks can not make or sustain civilization. Easy. Once the paint starts to peel, they just watch it until the roof caves in and then they move out.
"Many of the Habitat people are Christian Conservatard whites. The REAL traitors."
In my city, they collect money to build "free" wheelchair ramps for blacks in the ghetto. This catapults them into heaven more quickly than the rest of us get there, apparently.
CF,
" My dear friend Mr Keresy - I HAVE NO CONTROL OVER your choice to believe the "Genetic Inferiority" of Black people. This is done for the self-affirmation deep inside of you."
I think it is because the evidence of black inferiority is overwhelming, and quite frankly, undeniable.
Blacks are the ones who desperately search for evidence to disprove this in order to make themselves feel better. You know this from experience no doubt.
Whites need only look around to find evidence of superiority - both by seeing what we have accomplished and seeing how quickly your people destroy it.
Jay Santos said: Well Hawaii is unique as it has a long history as a kind of plantation society. By that I mean the whole society, excluding the upper class, is used to getting lots of free goodies, especially from the Feds.
I knew about the plantation society thing. I also got the impression that the feds "subsidize" Hawaii to a greater extent than average, due to its uniqueness, and geographic location and isolation, among other things.
Jay Santos said: There's a lot of hate YT there,
Surprising to me, given that Hawaii has such a large tourism industry. I am guessing those tourists are primarily whites and yellows.
On the other hand, maybe it's the tourist dollars that are wanted, the actual tourists, well, not so much.
It's time:
"You could not be more right about that point. Where I live, every spring, the little white Christian church denominations all band together and go do "charity" work for the black neighborhoods in our city. "
I came across an interesting passage in the Bible recently, though it's in one of the books Protestants don't use.
"Give to the devout, but do not help the sinner. Do good to the humble, but do not give to the ungodly; hold back their bread, and do not give it to them, for by means of it they might subdue you; then you will receive twice as much evil for all the good you have done to them" (Sirach 12:4-5).
Pretty much sums up your point, doesn't it?
I dunno if chickens eat termites or not, but they do eat bugs and teach young black children how to walk evidently...
Mr. Clean, I lived in Hawaii for four years, as a civilian, not a military spouse.
It was hell on earth. The hatred of whitey was not hidden, it was verbalized quite often to me, that is why I left.
The actual native Hawaiians are dying out, like the feather Indians (thank god). The real racists were the flips, Samoans and Tongans. Most of the non-whites on that island are fat, ugly, smart enough to be dangerous but too stupid to run the place, hence the whites in management positions.
Hawaii is like Mexico, you couldn't pay me enough to visit either island. I hope when we have our pole shift and Planet X whizzes by, they're obliterated by a meteor and plunged underwater like Atlantis.
I digress.
We went into Mississippi the other day. What a mistake. That entire state is a write-off. I know some people here live there, but I loathe that state just as bad. The town we were in were half black, half white.
I went into a store to buy some office supplies. The ONLY reason the negress was friendly to me was because I was buying stuff. Other than that, she wouldn't have pissed on me if I were on fire.
A female customer and her kid started talking to me. They were coal black. When they left they hopped into a nice 60,000 car with all the niceties inside. How in the hell do they afford it? I know why. The tribe has elevated the negro to a higher status than whitey. They are the flavor of the month or the flavor of the decade. It's cool now to be black or a race mixer. All of us old racists are intolerant ignorant rednecks you know.
So I just let this negress go on and on. I learned a lot yesterday.
They hate us. They really do. If they could kill us all today they would. But only after we begged for our lives. You think I'm kidding boys and girls?
Anyhoo, I'm out of the south. We're putting both homes on the market and moving north. It may be colder and rougher winters, but it's whiter. And that's all I care about.
Going forward, if some negress (other than one I have to deal with ie retail, service sector etc) I'm going to pretend I don't know English. I've passed for Sicilian many a times and since I know some Italian, I'm going to start babbling in Italian.
My husband is following suit. He's Finnish and looks it. He knows enough Finnish to get by. He's going to do the same thing.
They hate me, I hate them. And unless I have to interact with them in any way, they're furniture to me.
Stealth white economics for stealth white folks.
re: (Sirach 12:4-5)
The "regular" Bible has Matthew 7:6 "Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw your pearls before swine, or they will trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces."
Anon:
You could not be more right about that point. Where I live, every spring, the little white Christian church denominations all band together and go do "charity" work for the black neighborhoods in our city.
Casting pearls before swine. They obviously don't pay any attention to all the scripture they blather about.
Wooden houses are money pits. This is why row houses were invented.
@ Annie Oakley September 24, 2013 at 6:50 PM-
Annie, try Minnesota. It's nice and cold and white. Other than the Somalis that the mainstream and liberal churches are importing by the thousands.
It's my understanding that white North Dakota is getting quite the dose of die-versity also, thanks to jobs in the oilfields. People who live in small rural towns there have spoken of seeing their first invasion of groids in their small towns where formerly nary a simian face was to be seen.
Whitopias such as Austin TX and Seattle are actively recruiting negro diversity and all its benefits. Those places are full of the dwl types who will grovel before their negro heroes.
As loaded with with negroes as MS is, there are places where you could go for a year without seeing a black face (especially certain rural ateas which I love). At least no one's importing the Somali variety here, I guess they think we already have enough of the home-grown variety.
I have noted that almost every knock-out king, black pack attack, has been in a state other than a southern one (Virginia hardly counts as southern anymore, and it was never deep south. The influx of dwls into northern VA and the DC suburbs has almost destroyed that state. My siblings who have moved there tell me of the increasing encroachment of government intrusion, and compare it unfavorably to MS).
We have more than our share of groids, but at least the good ole boys aren't groveling at their feet. Well, other than feetsball, but that's a national problem.
The whitest of whitopias are going to be the very places which are targetted for settlement of imported groids (particularly the especially virulent Somali strain). You can't outrun them, you can't hide.
I have considered moving to the back of beyond to some off-the-map holler in Appalachia. My large family has considered going in together on property there and having some type of self-sufficient compound there. But I'm not even sure such a place even exists anymore even in remotest Appalachia. If such a place does exist, we're going to find it.
Wait a minute, what am I doing. Everyone is absolutely correct, Mississippi sucks dirty ditch water and no one should ever, ever step foot in this state. Especially if they're dwls, negroes, or haters of things and people Southern.
I am glad I don't watch teevee or Hollywood movies after circa 1950. I might be so gullible as to believe every lie told about the South, instead of being happy in my ignorance as a mere resident of the South.
Oh, and Whiskey-you are absolutely correct that we have become a consumerist people, bound by nothing more important and lasting than ephemeral fads and label whoring. How does that explain blacks, who are the most consumerist of all races (even their so-called middle class live paycheck to paycheck, and as a group they have the least in savings), but still manage to think and act tribally against whites, when they're not killing each other for a pair of shoddy quality overpriced sneakers? (Or "apple-picking" dwls who are too stupid to keep their noses out of their toys in public).
Also, MS pays the least in gibmes of any state. Of course, that corresponds to our low cost-of-living, but still, nigs are hardly getting rich off YT on little over $11,000 a year. Which just goes to show how lazy, inert, and unmotivated blacks are in this state, that the ones still here haven't moved to greener pastures for better gibsme opportunities.
Y'all remember that. Unless you're a white person with something on the ball, or a politically-connected negro with access to the fedgov trough, you won't be getting rich here. My DH and even moreso my stepsons had plenty on the ball. Which is as it should be-the younger generation should always rise higher than the parents. If they're not rising, they're falling back, the way "old money" families die out.
But for heaven's sake, don't come to MS. You'll live a horrible life of poverty in fear of your life every minute from groids. Glad I don't even need a permit to be armed.
Actually, the only places on earth of which I'm aware that aren't already or in the process of becoming infested with negroes are Russia, Iceland, parts of Asia, and eastern Europe, and even those places have their African students and such (I hear Iceland is also importing Somalis, correct me if I've misheard). I've heard people talk of moving to Australia or New Zealand (abos and Maoris who are as criminally-inclined and government-protected as any American Africanus), Ireland (infested with African imports who are now invading the small villages), and other places on the globe. Russia sounds good, but why would they want decadent American whites? "Russia for the Russians", and they have a point-why even step one foot down the road western countries have followed to their destruction? Same with Japan, even if anyone except a young American could deal with the total culture shock and language barrier (and the young ones are as likely as not to be infested with the die-versity disease-why would Japan want many of those on a permanent basis?) Same as Russia-"Japan for the Japanese". No, it's only western white nations which have been fatally infected with the poison. (South Africa doesn't count-they tried to keep their country, but the west blackmailed them till they were up against the wall. As a Southerner, I sympathise).
We're going to have make a stand where we are, or be a footnote in history (if that-the victors, and that won't be stupid negroes, will write their own history).
That doesn't mean we have to move to the ghetto and clear it out (though the Mexicans have done a grand job of doing just that, of course they haven't had the fedgov step in to stop them or interfere in any way-I wonder why they haven't minded Mexicans running negroes off with extreme prejudice, but sent the National Guard into the South when we merely tried to keep the status quo of segregation). We can do what we can to keep our neighborhoods white, even our small towns and rural areas if we can manage it, but there's not going to be any large areas which would capture the attention of either the gov or the dwls (including the liberal "Christian" churches) which will remain pristine and untouched by the greasy fingerprints of the negro of one variety or another. (If forced to choose, I'll take the local insolent but lazy groids any day over the Somalis or the northern groids who have white dwls on the run).
This country, Canada, and Europe, are all there is, if we lose these, that's it. Hussein put a stop to the space program, so we won't be white-flighting to the moon any time soon.
Annie Oakley said:
Mr. Clean, I lived in Hawaii for four years, as a civilian, not a military spouse.
It was hell on earth. The hatred of whitey was not hidden, it was verbalized quite often to me, that is why I left.
Thanks for sharing. I never really thought about it (Hawaii not being on my travels), but I guess I always thought that Hawaii was full of laid-back, happy polynesian people, who welcomed YT and his money. That is probably a hangover from that damn Brady Bunch episode I saw decades ago.
@ Mr Clean September 25, 2013 at 6:47 AM-
The "native" Hawaiians (or those ethnics who consider themselves natives) have a word for whites in Hawaii-"haole"-and it's not a term of endearment. I've heard that some of the schools have a "Kill Haole Day" but I don't know if that's really true or an urban legend.
Sure, the ones in the tourist industry smile at the white tourists spending their cash there, but that doesn't mean they love them. At least those have enough intelligence to smile for the tourists, which is more than can be said for negroes in the service industry. Negroes are still surly, rude, and insolent even as they're depending on your goodwill for their paycheck.
Anonymous @ September 24, 2013 at 5:36 PM
I understand your point. Hence, another screwed up issue with Christianity itself. Why so many denominations? Why different translations of the bible? Each denomination thinking they are the right one. Whole bunch of mumbling with no substance. How can any stand together when if it weren't for this battle they would be fighting against each other about who is the "right and true" church. I've given up on Christianity the way it is defined today. I think any self respecting, God fearing person who can give up their comfort zones for the sake of the greater good would renounce it as well. The key being "giving up their comfort zones". The average mindless drone that attends church on Sunday would never give up what they are used to doing because they are too scared to stand on their own.
Melanie,
I'm on your side here. No need to get mad at me.
I love the south, don't get me wrong, but white folks here are way too clannish.
They should be clannish, but not against white folks like me.
This has been my experience in my four years of living here and I hear this from folks who grew up here and left.
If you weren't born in many of these towns, they will not have anything to do with you. If you're buying something from them or doing business with them, the Southern charm is on.
But if you saw that same person on the street and said hi, they would ignore you.
A lot of southerners (especially the Christians) would have NO problem with their white daughter marrying a negro or helping out a negro family but wouldn't do shit for some poor white family. Especially if one of the family members had been into any kind of trouble.
If you read Thomas Chittums book Civil War II, he talks about how the south will be a killing field for whites.
In addition, if the new Madrid Fault line blows, the gulf is in deep shit.
No one is making fun of Southerners, not even me. But facts are facts.
Some of the great plain states are all white. The cold winter drives out the muds. One of the states is a no permit state.
And as far as the oil patch thing goes, once the boom is over, the muds will leave, they cannot take the cold.
You're a regular commenter on this site and I respect your opinion.
If you live in MS and are happy there, fine. You probably grew up there. No one is taking that from you.
Southerners have been the butt of jokes from all parts of the world I get that.
But maybe, just maybe, if Southrons would be a LITTLE more welcoming to new whites folks, things might be different.
I didn't move to the South to change things. I liked things the way they are.
I just want to be treated as a fellow Southerner, not an outsider forever.
If a white family moves to the South and is shunned because they didn't grow up in the small town, then what is the incentive for white families to leave the city and move to Mayberry?
@ Annie Oakley September 25, 2013 at 10:32 AM-
I wasn't so much angry as knee-jerk defensive. I do know that your experience was not an isolated one, and it rather neutralises our reputation for "southern hospitality". I don't defend the treatment you experienced, but maybe it's a little more explicable in light of the fact that it was "fellow whites" who came here in the Sixties and gave Mississippi its only national attention, attention we could have done without, by making an example of Mississippi as the epitome of white Southerners who oppressed the poor, pitiful black victims. Both before and after that so-called "Freedom Summer", we didn't exist on the radar of these "fellow whites". Once they got through destroying a system which came about of experience and necessity, they promptly left, and only recall our existence when they want to preen themselves on their moral superiority.
Maybe that's why white Mississippians are distrustful of newcomers, even other whites. We didn't get have our former reputation for hospitality for no reason, but having the National Guard sent in to force whites to remove the protections they had in place for good reason would tend to make them pull in the welcome mat.
After four years, the people you lived amongst should have known better, so I can't blame you for wanting to shake the dust of the place from your feet and not look back. I only wish they'd also known that you're on our side. It was on them to give you the chance to learn that about you.
I'm not mad, really. We are indeed on the same side, and this movement needs all the whites it can get, especially white women who have been the weakest link in holding strong for the white race.
I have got to stop being so defensive about MS. Really, if we whites miraculously were able to have a white homeland on the North American continent, that would be miracle enough. It would hardly matter exactly where, as long as the area was viable to support our population.
Thanks for your patience.
Annie Oakley: I'll have to echo what you said only it can be worse than what you've portrayed. I'm Southern born and bred but moved to another state in the South and met with a lot of hostility and rejection even though I'm white. I couldn't get a job for the longest time and even had (on one occasion) an individual actually throw my application across the counter at me while angrily sneering, "You ain't from around here!" I finally had to resort to an expensive agency to help get me a job and was told there were two main strikes against me~ I wasn't from around there and had no relatives in the area and would thus have to work 3 times harder to get a job.
On the first job I obtained, I was treated like a leper. Additionally, there was a girl who'd lived up north for awhile and the locals sneered at her, "You ain't southern no more! You ain't from around here no more!" They kept it up until she was nearly in tears. Apparently, the fact that she'd left at one time (no matter what the reason) meant she was a turncoat and a traitor.
Yes, some southerners can be horribly clannish and act like complete assholes.
I once decided to apply at a company for a job in which I had many years of experience. Knowing what I was facing, I called the company, talked to the manager and talked southern. I've lost the accent long ago but can still revert to it. lol. He was excited by my experience and wanted to hire me but once I went in and he saw my application and background, mr. friendly became mr. hostility and spewed excuses why I couldn't work there such as, "Uh....uh...you don't know our paperwork!" Ludicrous, really.
At that point, I was fed up with the clannishness and since I was being treated like garbage with no chance at all of being hired, I told him exactly what was going on and congratulated him on being a fine example of a first class jackass and walked out.
A lot of Southerners will be friendly to tourists because you're bringing in money etc but if you move here, they view you as taking something from them (jobs etc)and they resent that and will try to drive you out.
All that being said, there are a lot of Southerners who are genuinely friendly and accepting. As a Southerner myself, I apologize to anyone for the white trash in the South who may have treated anyone in an unjust and unfair manner.
@Annie "And as far as the oil patch thing goes, once the boom is over, the muds will leave, they cannot take the cold"
Many of them are simply too lazy to leave, once their "employment" is over, regardless of the weather. If one stays (having staked his claim in the territory as a drug dealer; has some mud babies there; isn't getting shot like back in Chicongo, etc) then another one will stay to keep him company. And then another, and the more the merrier. You see the same effect in military towns, which never had groids there until Uncle Sam bussed them in. They get comfortable where they are, and are too lazy to leave.
I read that disgusting article. The most important thing I can say is: That White woman will NEVER live around ghetto blacks, and if she does, she will be the first to be raped, beaten and robbed by black males, while the black females stand on the sidelines, LAUGHING.
Cops: Teen pauses attack on 70-year-old man to celebrate
Authorities say they've charged a Syracuse teenager with the unprovoked beating of a 70-year-old man outside a convenience store, an attack that left the victim in serious condition.
http://www.myfoxny.com/story/23495854/cops-70-year-old-upstate-ny-man-attacked
Another Babbitt situation.
Blacks in NJ/NY are chimpin' at a greater magnitude recently.
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