Despite severe losses during the recession, the majority of African-Americans see the economy improving and are confident that their financial prospects will improve soon.The technology generation is going to make things better? That technology generation that searches in vain for Black computer programmers and employs virtually no Black people in Silicon Valley? That's the future of the great technological Black renaissance?
That optimism, shared to a lesser degree by Hispanics, stands in stark contrast to the deeper pessimism expressed by a majority of whites. In general, whites are more satisfied with their personal financial situations but also more sour about the nation's economic prospects.
Those are among the findings of a new Washington Post-Kaiser Family Foundation-Harvard University poll that probed attitudes in the wake of a downturn that more than doubled unemployment and wiped away nearly a fifth of Americans' net worth.
African-Americans and Hispanics were more likely to be left broke, jobless and concerned that they lack the skills needed to shape their economic futures. But they also remained the most hopeful that the economy would soon right itself and allow them to prosper.
"Things are stuck in place right now," said Faye Brown, an African-American retiree from Detroit who said she has burned through her savings and watched the value of her home erode by $24,000 during the downturn. "But the newer generation -- the technology generation -- is going to make things better."
We wrote about this subject before (Black misplaced optimism for the future) and people need to realize that the Black middle class is largely an artificial creation thanks to affirmative action and government jobs. This isn't going to last forever.
As a nation, the productive class can mask and cover up incompetence for only so long before the weight of diversity causes the entire system to buckle. We have seen glimpses of what is coming in Atlanta and Detroit.
The closing of schools in Detroit will be met with protests, just as the closing of schools in DeKalb County was greeted with Black anger. Black people in Memphis are watching their school system collapse and desire a merger with the white school system. The refugee camps (suburbs) of Memphis boast great schools, devoid of low-scoring Black students; a merger would mean more private schools for whites and, of course, white flight.
Black Run America (BRA) is collapsing. School systems can no longer afford free breakfast or lunch programs that go disproportionately to Black students. If you rely on tax dollars to fed your child, don't have them.
Programs such as food stamp EBT cards, WIC checks, subsidized housing vouchers, free school breakfasts and lunches, and AFDC checks have created an entire class of people (disproportionately Black) that rely on the charity of the federal (and state) government.
Study after study after study after study after study after study shows that Waiting for Superman is a task that is reminiscent of Waiting for Godot. And yet positive vibrations for the continued, sustained transfer of wealth despite an onus on barbershops for employment flow through the Black community.
A reliance on white tax dollars has ensured the proliferation of the Black underclass, whose behavior EVERYONE is afraid to condemn.
Imagine if those white people (95 percent of teachers in Wisconsin are white, which is 10 percent more than the national average) protesting in Wisconsin were federal government employees of an agency in Washington D.C. - like say Freddie Mac or Fannie May - that was about to see significant job cuts.
Black people are disproportionately employed by the federal, state and local governments. Such a bloated bureaucracy can't last forever. Imagine what will happen when teachers in Detroit start protesting job cuts.
We will see a massive Black riot soon in the United States.
The crisis in the Middle East will cause oil to spike to around $150/ a barrel, maybe higher. People who have fled diversity for Whitopia's will no longer have that luxury.
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hence the need for Obamas Green Collar jobs, and carbon taxes.
You can mop up more unemployables by paying them to insulate everyones house. Of course paid for by the tax payer, rather than the individuals desire to lower their gas bill through insulation.
(snip)Programs such as food stamp EBT cards, WIC checks, subsidized housing vouchers, free school breakfasts and lunches, and AFDC checks have created an entire class of people (disproportionately Black) that rely on the charity of the federal (and state) government.
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the last few words should read....
...rely on the charity of the over burdened employed highly taxed "tax payer"...disproportionately "non-black".
Blacks will still get the same welfare. There will be no cuts to that. They'll just wonder why inflation is massively eating into the the purchasing power of their shit, whilst they mindlessly vote democrat at every opportunity.
White people in Europe do exactly the same thing, and yet they haven't made the link that all the countries with advanced welfare states are fucking broke. Must be those bankers that causing that.
I think white people ARE starting to talk about the horrendous black underclass, and I think that the empty charge of "racism" is losing steam. A stupid white woman called me a racist once for denouncing gay marriage. The label has lost its meaning.
A huge black riot might be the last ditch effort.
"Perhaps the non-whites and liberals are flinging the “racist” accusation with such vehemence because they sense that the white majority is losing patience. Their one tool, their one way of controlling white people, is losing its efficacy, so they ramp up the volume and the bitterness to try to keep the upper hand. Their worst nightmare is that white people stop flinching at the word because that will be the day that anti-whites (both non-whites and whites who scorn whiteness) lose their only weapon." - Elliot Lake
http://elliotlakenews.wordpress.com/
people need to realize that the Black middle class is largely an artificial creation thanks to affirmative action and government jobs. This isn't going to last forever.
How so?
The government or a governing body will always exist because people en masse are to dumb to function without rules, and if blacks are over-represented in government jobs, which, as you say, lead to a middle class socio-economic status, blacks will continue to be middle class. Also, if affirmative action is 'done away with', I doubt the blacks you assume were placed in these government jobs that make them 'middle class' will lose these jobs.
Programs such as food stamp EBT cards, WIC checks, subsidized housing vouchers, free school breakfasts and lunches, and AFDC checks have created an entire class of people (disproportionately Black) that rely on the charity of the federal (and state) government.
Most people on assistance are white.
Also, seeing that the black population is significantly smaller than the Latino population (and the white population), which boasts many illegal immigrants using government assistance, I doubt giving assistance to blacks-in-need is as damaging to our economy as giving to illegals.
Seeing that there are way more people not on assistance than those who are, helping the LEGAL little guy (ie. not Latino illegal immigrants) is not going to do anything exponentially worse than, say, spending over a trillion dollars on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. We've been doing it for generations.
Reagan bitched-and-moaned about the so-called welfare queen in the 80s but it wasn't until the mid-1990s that Clinton and the Republican congress eliminated the gov't monies that allowed people to stay indefinitely on assistance. There were no riots, no crumbling of the foundation, no delivery of the US into the sea.
A reliance on white tax dollars has ensured the proliferation of the Black underclass, whose behavior EVERYONE is afraid to condemn.
Well, I think, by Jove, you are starting to get it. Class is the indicator of behavior, not race, as middle and upper class blacks do not behave in the way poor blacks behave. Same with poor whites.
Just because Obama is in the White House does not mean blacks are in control. This is a delusion and 1+1=3 logic. If there is a massive collapse in the system, whites are to blame, as they have been in control of this country since it's foundation up until a mulatto was elected 2 years ago.
We will see a massive Black riot soon in the United States. ... People who have fled diversity for Whitopia's will no longer have that luxury.
LOL, nice histrionics. You are just wrong. Whites and blacks are the same; if there's a riot over lost jobs, you'll see whites in the streets, too. Whites get real uppity when they don't get their way.
I personally suspect suicides, but I think your prediction--as with your prediction that Las Vegas will be a ghost town in 16 mos.--is a farce. Again, as I always ask out of pure curiosity, what does Whitey plan to do? SBPDL, you have the fear-mongering down but when you get your followers, they do expect you to have a plan.
If you don't have one, I'm pretty sure there will be a riot. A white riot, and someone will be wearing a SBPDL skin coat!
White people in Europe do exactly the same thing, and yet they haven't made the link that all the countries with advanced welfare states are fucking broke.
What Michael Moore showed in his excellent documentary 'Sicko' (he probably takes a few liberties here and there with the truth) and what's shown in a fantastic Frontline documentary 'Sick Around the world'-
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/sickaroundtheworld/etc/script.html
-are European systems that are wonderful for their citizens.
If these systems suddenly collapsed, there will be a massive white riot (they protest frequently) that the world has not seen since the French Revolution!
Blacks on assistance don't get much already (and they are but a small, small segment of the population) so taking what they do get, or amending it, will not cause much damage. I think you people are really wrong on that.
What we are seeing now (if we are seeing anything) is the death of capitalism, or a huge amendment of it. And this has nothing to do with black people.
We all need to pay more taxes. Period.
http://www.inc.com/magazine/20110201/in-norway-start-ups-say-ja-to-socialism.html
Hopefully someone will look at this article and realize what it means when juxtaposed with Black Run America (BRA).
It's always frustrating to listen to economically ignorant people make the let's raise taxes argument and completely ignore the direct and inevitable consequence of capital flight and job destruction. New Jersey, to take a small example, has the highest property tax in the nation, poor itemized deductions, and numerous taxes unfriendly to business. Guess what, as taxes increased revenue actually decreased. Why? Because people like me fled to Texas and Florida. Same deal with California. It's not rocket science. Illinois increased the state tax rate by 66%, let's see what the actual revenue looks like over the next several years.
Here's the options: 1. Increase GDP growth rate 2. Cut spending 3. Increase our debt limit
Option 1 is wishful thinking for now. Option 2 is undergoing it's first iteration as we speak. Option 3 is likely to occur, but in order to placate our foreign creditors (China) a material execution of option 2 is necessary.
I don't think that BRA disappears or even that welfare will get completely dismantled, but I think it's a lot more likely that growth will be halted and that their influence will be substantially diminished. It's one thing for BRA to manipulate white guilt during boom times, but a completely different task when even the DWL paycheck is getting squeezed and job prospects are looking weak.
Desiree. As the guy you quoted in your last post can i just say that the mythical Scandinavian model of high taxes and zero poverty is a sham.
London is packed to the gills with productive European yuppies fleeing their social democratic tax and spend governments, for a slightly less regulated tax and spend country. If life was so good there why would scandis move to either better places to do business or places with a better quality of life?
Ireland has v generous welfare system and is screwed. So has Portugal So has Spain Sohas Greece.
For the first time ever the Swedish conservatives have won a second election in a row because there is widespread dependency on welfarism and the tax payer is pissed at being bled white.
The best place to be in Europe at the moment is Switzerland. Hmm whys that?
low taxes
direct democracy (plebiscites)
choosey about who they allow to become a citizen
they value education
hi quality manufacturing industry.
Adam Smith wrote a perfectly decent blueprint for how to run a country. in the 1970's a Scottish civil servant applied it to Hong Kong.
Now look at them.
"people en masse are to dumb to function without rules"
Black people are too dumb to function with or without rules.
Obviously, Desiree has not been paying attention. The country is broke. Every state is broke. Just wait til the state government payroll and welfare checks start bouncing. There's going to be some seriously shit-out-of-luck black people who don't have the wherewithal to do anything for their own good.
SBPDL,
"Black people are disproportionately employed by the federal, state and local governments. Such a bloated bureaucracy can't last forever. Imagine what will happen when teachers in Detroit start protesting job cuts."
"We will see a massive Black riot soon in the United States."
Really? Riots involve the masses,not percentage of a given population. In raw numbers the bulk of all government workers are largely white.
In what universe will we ever see school teachers rioting?
-Mr. X
"Most people on assistance are white."
Do you know what a proportion is? From the AFDC:
"38% of those who are on some form of assistance are white. 37.5% are black."
Blacks comprise roughly 13% of the US Population. Whites are roughly between 58-60%. I hate math as much as you do, but this is high-school level stuff here.
http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-welfareblack.htm
The results of this prosperity poll are akin to the outcome you would expect when polling a vampire and a victim as to the nature of their relationship.
"Count Blackula, how do you feel about draining blood from your victim's carotid artery?"
"Why I am very pleased."
"Drained Damsel, how do you feel about having the blood sucked from your body?"
"I don't like it at all."
"Really? Riots involve the masses,not percentage of a given population."
I guess I must have imagined blacks rioting after the Rodney King cops acquittal.
"Really? Riots involve the masses,not percentage of a given population."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oce3l90_Xrc
Black stupidity never ceases to amaze me.
"...rely on the charity of the over burdened employed highly taxed "tax payer"...disproportionately "non-black".
No.
Make that ...rely on the badges, guns, and threats of fines and jail to the over burdened employed highly taxed "tax payer"... disproportionately "non-black".
Mr. X,
It seems to me that you have not encountered or experienced "authentically" black people on a regular basis. If you had, you would know that one single black can cause a riot if they are in the vicinity any number of other blacks who can jump in.
Black rage allows blacks to always be on the lookout for a genuine throwdown. One cross-eyed look from another, one ounce of disrespect, one accidental bump in passing, one comment perceived to be racist, one bad weave job, one delinquent welfare check.......anything can trigger a Nigga Moment, which can turn into a Nigga Riot. The Nigga Moment may spark the beginning of a full-out third-world brawl any time, any place.
The grievances of blacks are universal, all blacks are soldiers in the call to loot and burn for the black cause. Don't you know this? This is why blacks have no sense of ownership - the shit could start burning at any moment. Don't get attached, don't get too comfortable. Ask any authentically black person, they will tell you that Niggas be burnin' shit.
Every black person in America would support a black riot or uprising of the black ghetto against the white establishment. They may quietly support it, but they will support it.
All blacks hold the black ghetto dear to their hearts, the "struggle" IS the true spirit of the black culture.
"Keep Hope Alive!", "We Shall Overcome One Day", "Three Acres and a Mule". "By Any Means Necessary"
White people are not stupid, stoopid.
" as middle and upper class blacks do not behave in the way poor blacks behave. "
You are in huge denial. Poor thing!
Yes, all blacks behave in the same manner. That is why this site exists.
AND all blacks coddle and enable their black ghetto relatives because they know nothing different. Hard as they try, black people are eternal victims, and cannot escape the black ghetto mentality. Once that well-pressed black family moves into your suburban neighborhood, it is not long before their ghetto relatives show up.
All blacks are tied to each other in the universal black pathology. Blacks always keep the black ghetto dear to their hearts and will never stray far from it. I have seen many self-proclaimed middle class blacks have a true Nigga Moment. I have seen many blacks claim to be middle class, but their behaviors are NOTHING like the white middle class behaviors I have experienced.
And most white people have direct experience with this phenomenon because we are forced to interact with so-called "educated" and articulate blacks on a daily basis. It is only a hustle. Have you read the "Empty Black Suit" piece yet? Please do. Blacks view things like degrees and fancy cars as the ticket to the middle class. They don't know how things really work. But they will never have it, because middle class means "white", and requires a white value system. Middle class is a whites-only club.
Black "middle class" is a misnomer. It is black upper lower class at best in terms of finance only. Blacks have been financially successful, but they lack the true middle class value system that whites possess by nature. And so, the black behavior does not change, it is all a facade and a ploy to gain the acceptance of white people. Black people and white people are not the same.
Blacks like to mimic white civil behavior, pretend to be "elite" in order to compete with poor blacks, and to impress whites, and they try to restrain themselves emotionally. It is only a show. But the black "middle class" is not sustainable and will break up once AA and other welfare programs end. Whites would definitely not employ blacks if they were not forced to, and would not live near blacks if not forced to.
I have heard this stated in my many private daily conversations with other whites.
Whites would rather not have black people around for the most part. Open your eyes. See how they run?
I see the back sliding of the so called black middle class already and you will too if you stop lying to yourself.
The back "middle class" are always the first to go bankrupt, the first to default, to foreclose, to gamble and play the lottery, to overdraft, to Rent To Own and Check Into Cash. When I worked in retail sales, blacks always appeared to be shocked to find that both of their credit cards had been "DENIED" at checkout. We have all been stuck behind the black woman with a cart full of merchandise who did not have sufficient funds to cover the cost and had to start deducting items one by one. She always seems shocked to find that her balance is zero.
Blacks cannot sustain a middle class existence, it has been a failed experiment.
Blacks carry massive high interest debt and bad loans that they will never repay. Blacks are the first to neglect the fine print and be victims of the latest financial scam. Like true victimologists, blacks find a way to be the first ones duped, swindled, scammed and hustled in every situation. They are financially illiterate, do not budget or plan for anything, including the future, will not live responsibly within their means, and are always wanting more than they can pay for.
Black people like "not to know" because willfully choosing ignorance keeps them from being held accountable for their poor choices.
"Most people on assistance are white." -Desiree
You're too stupid to know what the term disproportionate means. Even then, last I checked blacks account for 38% of all welfare recipients and whites only account for 30%.
TMI said:
Middle class is a whites-only club.
Black "middle class" is a misnomer. It is black upper lower class at best in terms of finance only. Blacks have been financially successful, but they lack the true middle class value system that whites possess by nature.
This has to be the stupidest thing I have read in a while. The histrionics of this person gave me my daily ab workout (I laughed). The middle class is traditionally white in this country, yes, but it's an economic, not racial, distinction. Regardless of what you think. Would you wager that whites in the lower class are unable to conform to this "white by nature" value system? Nature, "TMI', means that it cannot be learned, and you are asserting that DNA - and nothing else - dictates who'll be successfully "middle class".
Seeing that Asians are, at least, the chosen "minority" for whites, I doubt "TMI" would say they have been unable to enter the "whites-only" middle class club.
Oh, bother...
"TMI" is a great name for this commenter. That screed was about as coherent as Lindsey Lohan after an-all night coke bender.
SBPDL, you have an intriguing site but some of the people you attract should be put in a side show. That kind of nonsense puts a damper on real discussions of race.
Would the wise professor like to comment on this please? It seems to me that the black culture (low class?) cannot sustain a middle-class existence, and you managed work your way completely around that original point in order to throw insults. It all seems accurate to me. Ane most of us like Asians because they act in a civilized manner. Thank you.
"Blacks like to mimic white civil behavior, pretend to be "elite" in order to compete with poor blacks, and to impress whites, and they try to restrain themselves emotionally. It is only a show. But the black "middle class" is not sustainable and will break up once AA and other welfare programs end. Whites would definitely not employ blacks if they were not forced to, and would not live near blacks if not forced to. "
"The histrionics of this person gave me my daily ab workout (I laughed). "
Now that made ME laugh. I am glad you have a good sense of humor. You are a funny one! Even funnier than Black Guy. I think you will make a nice replacement.
Of course you don't like what is said here, it is Stuff Black People Don't Like. If you agreed with me, you would soon become quite bored and find something better to do.
In the US, the growth in the black middle class is artificially propped up by the life support system government hiring, which is a form of welfare - a jobs "program" for the unhirable blacks. Blacks are hired in numbers disproportionate to their percentage of the whole population, so they will be disproportionately affected by the end of these public sector jobs. This means unemployment numbers for blacks because they will not be absorbed into private sector jobs. Being black is not a job skill.
Black people know that without government taxing white people and using the proceeds to fund their paychecks and pensions they would be finished in a generation or two. And since black generations are about 15 years apart these days, that could come sooner than later.
The black middle-class is not sustainable. I was raised in a white family with a modest income, but now I am solidly middle-class because I value education, I speak fluent English, do not depend on government handouts, understand basic economics, and live within my means. I married BEFORE having children, I save more than I spend, I do not demand instant gratification, I sacrifice for the future payoff, and save for my children's future. I am patient and responsible.
These are solid white middle-class American values, and I anticipate that my children will pick up where I left off.
OMFG.
Snape is Desiracist.
TMI said:
Now that made ME laugh. I am glad you have a good sense of humor. You are a funny one! Even funnier than Black Guy. I think you will make a nice replacement.
I am not black, nor am I Afro-multiracial. You can call me "Jewish Guy", if you'd like, but I'd much prefer "Professor Snape". I haven't been to a synagogue in years and I am sure one would cave in on me if I entered.
Please re-read your comments, "TMI". The "nature dictating who can be middle class" argument does not hold up when you move beyond the black/white dynamic. I think that's as succinct as I can make it.
Anyone on welfare more than 2 years should be sterilized, especially nigras!
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