A "Meet-Cute" in Action |
The question that has to be asked is where do Black people have the time to engage in any form of meaningful relationship before a child is produced from the nocturnal interaction? Perhaps a quick look at the type of music coming from the Black community might provide an unnecessary window into the bedroom activities of Black. From a CNN article asking "Where is the love in R&B Music?" we learn this:
Then it all seemed to evaporate. Crack cocaine decimated black communities in the 1980s. The blue-collar jobs that gave many black families a foothold in the middle class began to disappear. Desegregation split the black community. Those with money and education moved to the suburbs. The ones left behind became more isolated.
Today, we have a black first family, but our own families are collapsing. A 2009 study from the Institute for American Values and the National Center on African American Marriages and Parenting at Hampton University in Virginia highlights the erosion.
The study found that while 70.3% of all black adults were married in 1970, that rate dropped to 39.6% by 2008. The study also showed that while 37.6% of black births were to unmarried parents in 1970, that figure soared to 71.6% by 2008.
Our music became as grim as those statistics. Singing about love now seems outdated.
Too narcissistic to love
Something else also happened: Black people became more narcissistic, and so did our love songs.
A recent study of Billboard hits confirms the notion that wooing a woman is disappearing from modern R&B.
Psychology professor Gordon Gallup Jr. and student Dawn Hobbs studied the subject matter of the 174 songs that made the Billboard Top 10 in 2009. They analyzed three musical genres among the top-selling songs: R&B, country and pop.
The researchers at the University at Albany in New York found that R&B contained the most references to sex per song (an average of 16 sex-related phrases per song). The top three sexual themes in R&B songs were the singer's sex appeal, the singer's wealth as it relates to finding a partner, and descriptions of sex acts. A total of 19 song themes were examined.
The least-popular theme in R&B music was "courtship," while country music offered more songs about courtship than any other genre, the study said.
Music critic Ollison says men and women have objectified each other in modern R&B and whine "about not getting what they felt they deserved."
Sigh. This article fails to point out that Black illegitimacy rates in the 1970s (and 1950s, and 1930s) was embarrassingly high when compared to the white rate. As the power of Black-Run America (BRA) has become the dominant ideology of our nation, any discussion of why this might be has been suppressed in lieu of confronting the notion that a disproportionate number of individual Black people - when added together - have always lacked the ability to engage in safe premarital sex.
Unlike white people who actively engage in family planning and use contraceptives, Black people have - based on long-term high rates of out-of-wedlock birth - have always lacked these traits.
So where is it that Black men and Black women meet to engage in nocturnal or day-time coitus session that will inevitably spawn a child dependent on the state (entitlement programs), private philanthropy, or alms from a church to survive long enough to cause disproportionate amounts of disruptions at high schools that few have the mental capacity to graduate from?
Online dating? Perhaps. But these illicit hook-ups via free online dating sites like OK Cupid and Plenty of Fish (Black people lack the monetary means to pay for Match) only help spread high rates of STDS among Black - remember, there is no digital divide - that sadly showcase the fact that the Blacks act as incubators for these diseases:
"Unfortunately, we are seeing a disproportionate burden of the STDs among African Americans and Hispanics and young people," Dr. Kevin Fenton, director of the CDC's National Center for HIV/AIDs, Viral Hepatitis, STD and TB Prevention, told The Root in a telephone interview. "These trends reflect the harsh realities of socioeconomic disadvantages that are taking place as a result of the economic downturn. The people contracting the diseases likely do not have access to health care. Other factors include employment. All of these things need to be addressed through education in the community.”
The stark results from 2010 data are as follows: While blacks represent just 14 percent of the population, they account for 35 percent of all reported chlamydia cases, nearly half of syphilis cases (48 percent) and almost three-quarters (69 percent) of gonorrhea cases.
Further, the syphilis rate among young black men has increased dramatically in recent years (134 percent since 2006). Other CDC data suggest that this rise is likely driven by increases among young black gay and bisexual men, the report says. The overall syphilis rate decreased for the first time in a decade and is down 1.6 percent since 2009.
AIDS/HIV is basically kept alive in America via homosexual Black men (many of whom are bisexual, and pass it on to Black women who have rates of HIV at 15 times that of whites). And because Black people have a general desire to refrain from using prophylactics during romantic-less, sexual interactions, these STD trends will only get worse.
Knowing that so few Black women will be getting Valentine's Day cards tomorrow, it's important we try and figure out why. One Stanford University educator has tried to answer that question:
Over the past century, the institution of marriage has undergone a tremendous transformation in America — especially when it comes to African-Americans. Over the last half century, marriage rates in the black community have dwindled. Black women are more than three times as likely as white women to remain unmarried for their entire lives, and when they do marry they’re more likely than any other group to marry men with lower incomes, and less education, than their own.
Although, at first glance, this trend seems like a testament to the successes of feminism, Ralph Richard Banks, the author of the new book, “Is Marriage for White People?”, argues that it represents a disturbing shift in the landscape of African-American intimacy. Banks, a professor of law at Stanford University, uses detailed interviews and extensive statistical research to argue that this gender and racial imbalance has dire implications for both child-rearing and the long-term happiness of African-American women. In the process, he makes provocative claims about both the importance of marriage and the reasons for its decline — claims that are sure to inflame opinion in a number of circles.
It is only when you add the individual number of Black women together that a picture of marital degeneracy sets in. Perhaps if more Black individual males didn't engage in criminality (or if individual Black people didn't drop out of school) they'd be attractive partners for marriage. As it is, few Black males dare stick around after the act of copulation has produced a child the state (you, the tax-payer) will be charged with caring for.
With white people, it's different. White people all yearn for that magic moment when they meet their future spouse. Whether it's bumping into one another in a grocery store; meeting at the fraternity-sorority swap; being set-up on a blind-date by friends hoping to help you get lucky at love; at a wedding reception for a good friend, when you see a girl whose beauty overshadows even the bride; running into each other as you reach for that last seat on the subway; grow up together, attending the same schools and experiencing the same culture and traditions, only to find you desire seeing those same mores continued on through matrimony; or meeting late on night at a bar, exchanging numbers and beginning a courtship that ends in marriage, white people all desire that "meet-cute" to tell friends about and to induce jealousy among the female friends of their acquaintance.
Let's let Wikipedia supply that perfect definition of the "meet-cute":
A meet-cute is a situation in which a future romantic couple meets for the first time in a way that is considered adorable, entertaining, or amusing.
This type of situation is a staple of romantic comedies, commonly involving contrived, unusual, or comic circumstances. The technique creates an artificial situation contrived by the filmmakers in order to bring together characters in an entertaining manner. Frequently the meet-cute leads to a humorous clash of personalities or beliefs, embarrassing situations, or comical misunderstandings that further drive the plot.
For Black people, telling their friends they met the father of their children in the back seat of a Pontiac; while he was on probation; or at "the club," which quickly turned into a quickie in the bathroom isn't exactly an encounter that qualifies as a "meet-cute."
For white people, the "meet-cute" is that serendipitous encounter that becomes the foundation of a productive relationship, and eventually the story you'll tell your grandchildren about. It's the type of encounter that civilization is dependent upon; for individual Black people, who - when added together - showcase an inability to understand the vital nature of "meet cute," well, it's the type of thing that leads to a society's ruin.
For this reason, Stuff Black People Don't Like includes the Meet-Cute. The reason should be obvious.
141 comments:
"Then it all seemed to evaporate. Crack cocaine decimated black communities in the 1980s. The blue-collar jobs that gave many black families a foothold in the middle class began to disappear. Desegregation split the black community. Those with money and education moved to the suburbs. The ones left behind became more isolated."
The excuse-making never ends.
Apparently it never occurred to this writer that morality is like kryptonite to black people.
'Desegregation split the black community.'
Looks like we need to bring back segregation...For black well-being, of course.
I think that the "cute" portion of "meet cute" gives the real reason that so few (if any) black women will receive cards on Valentine's day. It is something that has been discussed here before, namely:
That black women are so blasted UGLY!
Nobody wants a black woman, not even a black man. A black man will use them for sex, then run as far away from her as quickly as he can and as far away as he can. No cards, no anything.
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How odd, I was reading the lord of the rings & listening to the braveheart score & thought to check sbpdl.
I know you mostly comment on politics, but I wish someone would knock the teeth out of swpl fantasy series a game of thrones. Maybe whiskey will grit his teeth & review it someday
Yet again more clap trap about African-Americans.
Do these "researchers" ever consider when black people somewhat behaved it was because of a completely artificial situation?
During slavery and post slavery blacks were taught to emulate Whites I.E. have a nuclear family. The more free blacks became the more they devolved to their African origins I.E. loose marital bonds, multiple women, and men completely devoid of the parenting experience.
I guess at one point you could argue this was culture but I would say the evidence is out and it is more genetic. This behavior is only worsened by the current welfare state that rewards this type of procreation.
Once again geneticist trump sociologists.
Just hit it -n- quit it. That's their motto. The black guys at work don't care about romancing a girl. All except one openly cheat on their wives and laugh about it as they compare stories. They don't care about accomplishing anything important in life, it's all about how many girls you can score with. Any idiot can stick Dick-A into Vag-B, it's not rocket science. Maybe thats why they do it so often. It the only thing they can do half way decently.
Most black girls know they will never be married. I taught at a black high school for several years. One day I took my class to a local art museum that is one of my favorites. This particular place has thousands of spring flowers planted. Local girls often take pre-wedding photos there in their wedding dress. My wife did. The black girls getting off the bus were full of venom. "Look how cheap that dress b" "her man out screwing utter dude" and other kind catcalls. I could not believe the level of hostility. It shocked me. They realized a Meet-cute is not in their future and don't feel good about it.
Happy Black History Month!
Oh yeah, it turns out Black people need to be bribed to go to class instead of standing on the street corner outside of the School.
Seriously.
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC-W65PrFas
Google Kehinde Wiley to see how rotted out Art is becoming. He's literally cut n pasting on black face to the old masters.
Black women in my experience tend to be far more intelligent than their men. It's pretty consistent across the board. This leads to the problem of them being forced to chose an inferior black mate. No self respecting white guy wants to have a black wife and halfcaste kids.
It's also a step up for a black man to possess a white girl. That's why they disproportionately freak out on the white girl if she leaves the relationship.
Simples.
In addition to having a cargo cult mentality with cars, houses, TVs, Clothing, blacks also have "romanticargo culture". The white chick who dates them is a status symbol not a true love. Sure, white guys have trophy wives, but these women rarely represent a chance to improve enhance the White guy's genetic offspring. A black guy will bitterly cling to the first white chick dumb enough to bond with him because she is a social step up, even if they are fundamentally a bad coupling. God only knows what a Reasonably bright black woman is thinking when she's with a white guy.
If you hope over to some of the black run sites they loudly lament that black criminals get many more vitriolic comments than do white criminals. Whites deal with the white criminals by putting them in prisons and not crying when a guy gets sentenced to several consecutive life terms. Blacks on the other hand gripe when one of their own, caught on camera and with enough evidence that the trial becomes a moot (not mute) point.
Take in point Whitney Houston. She pissed away $100,000,000 and in the process managed to kill herself probably by drowning in the tub. You've got to wonder what she was thinking when she lit up her first rock. Self indulgence? Yes. Irresponsible? Yes. Who introduced her to drugs? Was it a white guy out to destroy her? No, more than likely it was one of her so-called friends or family members.
Too late for her. It might be too late for millions of black children as well. By the time a child hits four or five much of their social foundation is laid by their family. The course they take over the next decade reinforces what they already learned. Granted there are exceptions to this where a good person comes from and evil family or a bad person comes from a good family, but those are quite rare.
Blacks view education as a white thing. No big deal there. So why educate someone who refuses to learn? Shutter the schools in black communities. Schools are not day care centers for Wednesdays and Pugsleys of any race or nationality. Enforce a curfew during school hours by arresting the children and fining the parents for allowing them to run wild. Make mommy dearest take care of her spawn 24/7. You might see a drop in the birthrate.
Let the marketplace decide. Pass legislation that one year from now any welfare parent who has more than two children won't receive any money for the ones conceived after that point (human gestation being 9 months). That gives them a chance to plan. First one might be a mistake. Second one they know where they come from. Third or more? They take care of them themselves. Medical, food, clothing, etc. all becomes mommy's problem.
One point I want to note...
There is a lot of discussion about the reality of black education, lack of parenting and propensity to satify the immediate needs/wants.
It has occurred to me recently that maybe the black community, specifically the teenagers that are getting pregnant at an alarming rate, do not understand how a baby is made. I'm sure they know that sex makes a baby, but maybe they don't even understand that a man releases semen into a woman and then a baby is made. Sure for you and I this is common knowldege. But think for a minute about these inner city schools where they can barely read, don't go to class anyway and have screwed up home lives. Do you really think they sit down and learn about "the birds and the bees"? I would guess no.
This is exactly the type of post most likely to garner black apoplectic rage and charges of 'raaaaacism!'. But the only thing that matters a damn, is 'is it true?'. And there is no more evaluative (and predictive) measure of life than culture. Many years ago, I was optimistic about my choice to live in a 'multicultural' neighborhood, as it was very close to work. Until the day that in front of my house I saw a ~ 5 yr old black boy, strapped into his car seat, being subjected, at full blast, 'bass-boost' volume, to the most recent 'gangsta-rap' offerings of the adults 'responsible' for him at the time. I remember debating whether or not to respond to my first impulse, to call the police/child protective-services, to get this poor kid away from exposure to the endless profanity, exhortations to kill cops, the sheer pain of the volume itself. I realized that the only result would be the full weight of that BR-city falling down on my head, and just walked away. After being 'raised' in such profoundly damaging and dehumizing environments, is their no one in the 'black community' that can see why their offspring can't learn, have absolutely no respect for any authority, are full of violent impulses they can't control?
Scotb, blacks, even if they understand something, don't understand it.
The dissonance is amazing with such folk.
They don't "Meet-Cute" because they are genetically hard wired, how shall we say...differently. Cats don't "Meet-Cute", nor do giraffes, hippos, etc.
The idea of romance is a white idea. Just as the nuclear family is a white idea. And on and on.
They are simply NOT like us. And no amount of "training" will make it so.
-Sweep the leg
Nicole Simpson learned the downside of the dearth of meet-cutes in the black community.
Too bad she didn't know the reality of how most black women think, and how most black men behave.
ONCE MORE. THE POOR INSIDE THE AA
COMMUNITIES REFLECT THE POOR WHITE TRASH OF THE MAJORITY.And for the record KRYPTONITE took the powers of a white make believe male.
I don't understand how can someone be surprised, if blacks were not parasiting in white countries, they would be in Africa, dancing naked and so on...
Blacks " Reflect" the poor white trash?
You are nothing without the white man. NOTHING.
Even your cockeyed all CAPS statement suggests this truth. Blacks imitate whites, leach off whites and finally resent whites for existing. Even though you depend on us.
Darkie,
"kryptonite" is a metaphor for a substance or practice that brings you back to reality with a bump.
I know abstract concepts are hard for you, linguistic definitions a bore, etymological definitions make your headache, anyone pointing out the obvious a raysiss, but you must realize this post touched a nerve. Or you would not have ALL CAPPED your response.
As I sit here at work, I'm listening to fellow male black co-worker going on about Valentine's Day and how the 15th is "Girls on the side Day". Reason? Valentine items are on sale!
I do think this Valentine article is a tad off. I was in our local Walgreens ( I live in inner city St. Louis) yesterday and it was packed with black people buying Valentine's Day items.
Black girls like to be treated nice on Valentine's Day too, especially if the dude leaves a check for the rent on the dresser after he is done (I overheard a black woman talking about this too).
I just noticed something. Your site no longer clearly says "Stuff Black People Don't Like", so when new people come here (after I post a link to sbpdl.com somewhere) and see numbered posts, they're likely to think "huh?"
I think you should bring back the title, or include it in subtitles of numbered posts somehow.
It's been terribly unfair on blacks to have to imitate white family structures, ethics and mores.
They are clearly uncomfortable living alongside us. Astonishing numbers of Bastard children, propensity toward brutal child rearing, inability to concentrate at school, suspicion of abstract enquiry for its own sake, lack of maintenance on private property, lack of romance, lack of financial prudence, dealing with disaster badly (Katrina compared to Tsunami Japan)
I say they should be free of those burdens, you know the burdens free men have to grapple with everyday until they
die. Freedom is a hard disciplined slog through pain.
History has an Institutional answer to the problem. The black lives as a pseudothrall at the best of times today. It wouldn't make dime's worth of difference in the material outcomes for blacks if it were brought back. If the institutions were revived. They still practise it in Africa.
The main racial diference connected to Valentine's day is that a black fellow will expect an automatic blowjob in exchange for a box of chocolates. Not so with the white guy. He's giving a gift, expecting nothing in return. Of course he's hoping he gets some action, but not expecting it as a quid pro quo.
Hey
Your website it being flagged in Chrome for containing content from startanewgame.com which distributes malware.
I saw a brief second of the page before the "WARNING" description screen appeared, enough to see the 'meet cute' topic thus allowing me to navigate to this post via a Google search.
So. Hackers. Malware. Bad adverts. Who knows, but I can't access the main website.
"ONCE MORE. THE POOR INSIDE THE AA
COMMUNITIES REFLECT THE POOR WHITE TRASH OF THE MAJORITY."
Nonsense. In fact, crime rates in poor white communities are generally lower than crime rates in middle/upper class negro neighborhoods.
Try again.
"And for the record KRYPTONITE took the powers of a white make believe male."
More importantly, kryptonite was biologically rejected by Superman.
Likewise, morality is biologically rejected by blacks.
Whats the most confusing day in the Black community?
Answer
Fathers Day
I reject the term poor white trash as its just another anti white specific term. we never hear of poor xxxx trash, do we? poor black trash? that's all of them. anyway
I've lived in and visited poor white neighborhoods.
The criminality of the entire area would be exceeded by one or two black famblys.
Our poor and less intelligent are still smarter and less criminal than the majority of y'alls.
Blacks would also not be attacked on sight as they would in a poor black area
Baldowl,
In the 1930s WN Kellogg attempted to raise a chimp along his son to see if the chimp would act more human like. While the chimp seemed a little more progressive his son Donald would walk on all fours, bite people, and grunt. At 2 years old he only knew 3 words, atleast according to what info I found when I first heard about it. Kellogg stopped the experiment when he realized his son wasn't progressing, instead was taking the 'easier' route by acting more like an animal then a human.
This is what's happened to white culture. White culture was once about standards, being polite, dressing nice, being clean, things many people look down on as if you're a snob if you floss (full disclourse I don't floss as much as I should so I'm not perfect).
Since blacks couldn't raise themselves to OUT standards, I think liberals wanted to lower WHITES to NEGRO standards. Having children out of wedlock was no longer taboo, so now more whites are doing it to keep up with the negros. Less whites are getting married to keep up with the negros.
As it stands, I think we're entering a stage where the US can not last, since the whites who are the backbone and driving force of the US are taught to think poorly on anything white. Ever hear DWLs call classic writers 'dead white males' as if that's bad?
Anything white is bad in the current US society, so whites do not want to be intelligent, or respectful, or law abidding, or industrious. Look at the Occupy movement, a bunch of sheltered white middle class kids acting with $150,000 worth of debt for worthless liberal arts degrees acting like niggers demanding more food stamps.
Since blacks do not create societys, whites acting like blacks while not be able to continue our society in the way it used to be.
The black equivalent of "meet cute" is to approach the female target and immediately demand her name and number with little to no prior introduction. Having experienced this for the first time after moving to NYC (despite avoiding the bad...I mean, black areas), it immediately struck me how cold, impersonal, and barbaric their "mating ritual" is.
Latinos generally have some degree of civility when they start talking to unknown women, and Whites (in my experience) wait until at least forming a brief acquaintanceship before expecting anything else. But every single time I've been harassed at bus stops, stopped while running through a subway station, and yelled "What's your name?" from a car window...no points for guessing the race.
-A white-acting, Latina-passing mulatto who can see.
"The burden of STD's"--give me a GD break.
Didn't you know? STDs fall from the sky and land on people at random. Better carry an umbrella.
"I was in our local Walgreens ( I live in inner city St. Louis) yesterday and it was packed with black people buying Valentine's Day items.
Black girls like to be treated nice on Valentine's Day too, especially if the dude leaves a check for the rent on the dresser after he is done (I overheard a black woman talking about this too)."
What you're describing is not the expression of a romantic impulse but the exchange of money/material goods for sex.
This is just another example of the notion that every aspect of white civilization that blacks appropriate, they also tarnish and degrade.
The same goes for Christmas. When my husband and I moved to a mixed-race neighborhood, he was disgusted to hear blacks (it was always blacks, never poor whites) describe getting Christmas presents for their children as "buying them Christmas". Again, the high-minded white ideal of experiencing the joy of giving is degraded by blacks into a crassly material action. (He was also floored to find that blacks thought nothing of stealing and writing bad checks in order to buy their kids Christmas. They talked about this openly because they really believed they were entitled to do this so their kids wouldn't be disappointed at present-opening time.)
This article and the comments here should be required reading for any White female who's thinking about dating a Black guy.
"-A white-acting, Latina-passing mulatto who can see."
Welcome Anne!
DW:"STDs fall from the sky and land on people at random.
No, they don't. STDs are racist, and fall disproportionally on black people.
Black women are, by a wide margin, the least appealing of all the females on the entire planet.
They are ugly, arrogant, ignorant, rude and smell just as bad if not worse than their brudders.
I think the change in black music merely reflects the overall opinion that even black men have come to accept as truth about their "Nubian Queens" due to the actions of said queens over the last few thousand years.
There has been a disturbing trend lately of encouraging black females to go after a non black boyfriend or husband.
Romance is reserved for the higher I.Q. and this is directly related to empathy.
Segregation is indeed the first step but it will only lead to an eventual resource war as black run cities and states are doomed to implode and then come axin for gibs me dat from the nearest non-black run population.
I'm amazed at the number of St. Louisans that frequent this site. We're living the dream here in St. Louis!
My awakening occurred at old St. Louis City Hospital near the projects. Most in the suburbs remain ignorant.
We remain here, a tempest in a teapot. I must exercise extreme caution in expressing my real opinions. I have very few with whome I can discuss these matters.
Most black women on tv are halfrican Americans. with nose jobs.
I speak the truth.
welcome to Anne!
your input is greatly appreciated.
No, they don't. STDs are racist, and fall disproportionally on black people.
You're right!
Just like the money falls disproportionally on White people.
funny. I'm hiking in a park that has white kids jogging -im sure a Christian school or the like. they run in packs and I step aside when I can, and they say hello or the like.
what would any group of high school age blacks do? from any school in the nation, would thete be any that wouldn't tell whitey to move out the way or shove him or curse him, or worse if they encountered a white woman?
I say none could resist the chance at a free shot at the white man.
Anonymous at 4:57 A.M.:
"Schools are not day care centers for Wednesdays and Pugsleys of any race or nationality."
Many blacks think that they are (another entitlement that they are due, I suppose).
My wife worked at a predominately black school in Pensacola, Florida (Oakcrest Elementary). The school system was removing asbestos from the older schools (such as Oakcrest) and was doing the removal work during the summer break so as not to endanger the lives of the staff and students.
One summer it was Oakcrest's turn for asbestos removal. This meant that there would be no summer school (with its free breakfasts and lunches, and free after school care) available for that summer.
Oh, my, the outrage that was leveled at the staff. A constant train of black mammies came to the school literally saying "Who's gonna watch my chillens?".
Unfortunately, the white staff members could not tell the brood mares that maybe, for once in their entitlement grubbing lives, they, themselves, should watch and care for, their out of wedlock children instead of expecting whitey to do it for them.
What a useless, hopeless sub-species.
RooshV's Day Bang book about meeting girls during the day at coffee shops, stores, streets is probably the definitive book on how to "Meet-Cute.
Time for a # post on Jeremy Lin. Seems like the same guys who hate on Tebow, Jimmer, Duke basketball, etc are starting to pipe up again.
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/7572690/floyd-mayweather-says-new-york-knicks-jeremy-lin-spotlight-race-not-play
Do you really think they sit down and learn about "the birds and the bees"? I would guess no.
I went to a Black-majority junior high. This was long, long ago in the dark ages before M-TV and rap music. To give you some idea how backward we were--it was actually considered shameful to have a child out of wedlock. One of my friends got teased by other White kids because she had no daddy.
Even back in these simpler times, I'm pretty sure the Black kids didn't get the "birds and bees" talk. Mostly, they learned by having some other kid show 'em what to do.
Ten year old Black girls were doing stuff I'd only heard about from my Mom (who said it in very polite terms and in the context of "try to wait 'till you're married").
How much has our culture changed since then?
I'd say Black culture has changed very little, it just got free of the restraints of White culture. Then it somehow turned around and started influencing White culture, to our detriment.
Anonymous 1:10 PM says'
"Unfortunately, the white staff members could not tell the brood mares........"
Why not, the school board has some speech code for these types. What the hell ever happened to free speech? Or were these a bunch of DWL teachers?
"I'm amazed at the number of St. Louisans that frequent this site. We're living the dream here in St. Louis!"
Ivan, you live in St. Louis, too? I was born and raised in the suburbs of STL (Kirkwood, Crestwood and Manchester). I spent most of my grade schools years just across the street from Meacham Park.
Back 40+ years ago when I was working in the STL city projects with my church youth group, that downtown area (Darst-Webbe) was too dangerous for whites to be in by themselves even in broad daylight. Of course, all of STL has only gotten worse since then.
"Just like the money falls disproportionally on White people."
That's because whites have some sort of magic that lets them steal all the money for themselves.
OT, but in Philadelphia a teacher was beat up today by a student.
Magnifico at 1:56:
"What the hell ever happened to free speech? Or were these a bunch of DWL teachers?"
As you know, there is no such thing as free speech for white people. I am sure that there were some DWL teachers, but all knew not to say anything that angered black people, because the school board would not stand behind a white person. Of course, parents, students, and black staff could say whatever profanities and racial slurs that they wanted to my wife and other white staff without consequence.
My wife and other white staff simply endured until they could transfer to a majority white school or retire (which my wife finally did).
My wife used to have some sympathy for the "plight" of blacks. No more. She sees reality now. The stories that she has from those years are incredible.
Oh, also, about blacks and knowledge about how pregnancy occurs that some have have mentioned earlier. Blacks know about what causes pregnancy and how to prevent it.
As I mentioned earlier, the school provided free breakfasts and lunches. When a child reaches school age and gets free meals, the amount of public assistance for that child is reduced during the school months.
Therefore, time for another baby that brings in the full monthly allotment. The black brood mares had children every five years like clockwork. They may not be able to do long division, but they can count to five when it comes to free money.
Magnifico at 1:56:
"What the hell ever happened to free speech? Or were these a bunch of DWL teachers?"
As you know, there is no such thing as free speech for white people. I am sure that there were some DWL teachers, but all knew not to say anything that angered black people, because the school board would not stand behind a white person. Of course, parents, students, and black staff could say whatever profanities and racial slurs that they wanted to my wife and other white staff without consequence.
My wife and other white staff simply endured until they could transfer to a majority white school or retire (which my wife finally did).
My wife used to have some sympathy for the "plight" of blacks. No more. She sees reality now. The stories that she has from those years are incredible.
Oh, also, about blacks and knowledge about how pregnancy occurs that some have have mentioned earlier. Blacks know about what causes pregnancy and how to prevent it.
As I mentioned earlier, the school provided free breakfasts and lunches. When a child reaches school age and gets free meals, the amount of public assistance for that child is reduced during the school months.
Therefore, time for another baby that brings in the full monthly allotment. The black brood mares had children every five years like clockwork. They may not be able to do long division, but they can count to five when it comes to free money.
"I'm amazed at the number of St. Louisans that frequent this site. We're living the dream here in St. Louis!"
Ivan, you live in St. Louis, too? I was born and raised in the suburbs of STL (Kirkwood, Crestwood and Manchester). I spent most of my grade schools years just across the street from Meacham Park"
We have lived in the city for 19 years. My great-granparents lived in Dogtown, and my grandparents lived in East St. Louis. I became fully awake about 6 months ago, but have been half asleep most of my life.
Currently living in the Tower Grove East neighborhood. I go by the old city hospital every day for my commute.
Nice to see some fellow St. Louisians here too.
It is interesting reading about how all of you became race realists or had your "a ha" moments regarding race. I may be the ONE person here at SBPDL that DID NOT become a race realist due to interactions with blacks or hispanics. I have lived in So CAL Whitopias my whole life (and I intend to Die here) and have had VERY LIMITED interactions with blacks. I was brought up completely liberal and always carried a brightly lit torch for "social justice." However I was never deluded into thinking "we are all equal." I always knew that we were different but it never bothered me in the way that it bothers Liberals, I just thought it to be self-evident.
I did however completely buy into the whole "white guilt" complex and the "whole racist Amerikkka, institutional racism if only blacks had a chance" nonsense. I was also a diehard Football and Basketball fan. For me, race realism came somewhat late into my personal awakening of how the world really works. Race realism was sort of the last domino to fall if you will.
Waking up went something like this for me: realized 9/11 was an inside job, therefore Government is against the people, not for and by the people. This led to the realization that the Federal Reserve is a big time scam (no more Federal than Fed Ex) designed to fleece the populace and control the wealth of a nation. Once I learned the Fed was a scam, it was all about following the money. Followed the money to Hollywood and the entertainment industry and the media. They set the culture and decide what the NEWS will be. Once I realized that the media/news was in complete control I realized that Multiculturalism was a scam because it was being drilled into the social conscience day after day after day. Not to mention the fact that living in So CAL, I realized that we are being COLONIZED BY MEXICANS. The last step was noticing the God like deification of non whites in the media and the total sell out of the USA to the Obama admin. And then my transformation was complete when I stumbled onto SBPDL sometime in late 2011. Cheers! BTW it's like 65 and sunny today in my little slice of heaven.
"realized 9/11 was an inside job"
But with the assistance of Martians.
Kylie and R Neville,
I grew up in West County and am probably a bit older than both of you.
I remember when I was in grade school, a private Catholic school, we were discussing the downtrodden blacks and how terribly they'd been treated. Blessedly, there were no, I repeat NO, blacks in our school. Needless to say, we were all carrying on ad nauseum about the poor disadvantaged blacks and how unfairly they'd been treated each of us outdoing the others in expressions of sympathy and concern.
One student told us that he had had enough of the nonsense and told us that we didn't know what the heck we were talking about. He lived with them in north St. Louis and he was there to tell us that, contrary to everything being said, these people were animals. And since we didn't live with them we couldn't possibly know what we were talking about.
A couple of years ago I went to a class reunion and this student had become a mad dog liberal. I asked him if he remembered what he'd said all those many years ago and he said he didn't but he was ashamed of himself nonetheless. He said he now felt exactly the opposite.
I simply couldn't believe that someone who'd been so far ahead of us on the issue of race realism had completely lost his center and capitulated. He remains a foaming at the mouth DWL, a loathsome despicable odious alien creature.
My "aha" awakening came as the result of teaching in a school with an increasingly AA enrollment.
Some groups of students are far less likely than others to show up for class, turn work in, follow directions....
I first mt my wife on memorial day weekend of 1979. Her family owned a cabin up in Christopher Crek Arizona.. She was coming out the front door as I was just walking in. Our eyes met & instantly my heart fluttered & I got weak in the knees, I was putty!. Took more than another year before we started dating (she had been dating someone else at the time), but I knew within a few weeks that she was the girl I wanted to spend the ret of my life with!... We have been together some 32 years now, I cannot imagine being with anyone else!
I remember when I was in the air force, before I could "see". I used to hang with some of the "bruthas" at the NCO club after work. One thing I will always remember is how, even the married ones would spend the entire time trying to hook up with any girl they could!..
The concet of loyalty to ones wife seemed an utterly alien concept to them?.. Of romantic love?, ditto.. The purpose of men & women being together was about sex, nothing more.. I remember one guy, had a wife & two daughters. Had no qualms whatsoever about flings on the side, he would say Mac (my nickname), it's a black thing, you wouldn't understand... That's when I began to awake!.
They are not like us.. Truer words have never been spoken!.
Gotta disagree with some of the commenters here. If there is anyone I feel sorry for it is the black woman. I can only imagine what they have to put up with.
I just read Bernal's Black Athena and realized liberals are mentals. Bernal's thesis was that blacks founded Greece.
It's one thing for blacks to claim Egypt. It's another for them to insinuate themselves into European history as founders of. Civilization.
It doesn't add up to the way blacks observably live today.
"We have lived in the city for 19 years. My great-granparents lived in Dogtown..."
Dogtown! My papa attended Dewey School there in the 1930's. My great-aunt and her husband lived on Wiseman Ave in the 40s-50s.
Have you seen this website?
Dogtown
Ivan, I don't think you're older than I am (40 is a distant memory for me). The story of your classmate-turned -mad-dog-liberal rings true with me. I had a very sensible friend in high school and found out just last year that she's turned into a total DWL. She excuses any and all black pathology and criminality by spouting that tired claim, "Blacks just lack economic opportunity". She even commented approvingly on Michelle Obama's "well-toned arms". She is so brainwashed now that she literally just parrots the Party Line. And she gets really hostile really fast if you disagree with her. It's horrible to behold.
"White people all yearn for that magic moment when they meet their future spouse."
I am reminded of a comment left at amren some months back in response to a similar topic. The poster asked whether anyone had ever seen a young black couple earnestly holding hands.
--Mencken--
It is important to note that while Blacks were always more fragile in nuclear family formation (24% illegitimacy in the early 1960s) they merely were the most hard hit this way, first and hardest. Steve Sailer notes that Hispanic illegitimacy went from 17% in 1980 to over 50% today. Charles Murray notes that White illegitimacy for all class was under 4% in 1960. Today it is still that ... for the upper 20% income. For the Middle class it is around 20% and for the White working class it is 40%.
If you are "rich" (income around $2-8 million a year which yeah I know is a lot but not as much as it used to be) ... creating and preserving wealth and passing it down, along the lines of romantic love MODERATED by institutional mating opportunities and adherence to bourgeois values is your only hope. That's what keeps the summer home in the Hamptons.
The White Middle Class still has shame, and fear of falling down. That has kept the tidal wave of illegitimacy and female hypergamy somewhat (less now) in check.
What Black culture lacks is SHAME. Black women do not SHAME other Black women who take up with thugs, bad boys, and other non-providers.
Black people likely never will be collectively like say, NE Asians from Korea, China, and Japan who have very low illegitimacy rates. But they could restore historic rates and be better than what they are.
But only Black people can do this. It is up to them to provide leadership and institute cultural reforms.
Let me add that Tyler Perry, does try to tackle the lack of romance, the lack of male investment and faithfulness and duty to family, and the female hypergamy, through his Madea character who encapsulates the "loud, angry, crazy" fat old Black woman, but who is right in the moral lectures the character delivers.
They are not to my taste, but Black people (some of them) are aware of the problem. Perry's audience is nearly 99% Black, he makes them on the cheap but they are highly profitable. He made last year $200 million off them. So Black people ARE open to the message. Here is the Wiki entry for the first film.
Not everything is lost. Whatever else his flaws, the emergence of Tyler Perry is a good thing. He preaches love, family, God, and duty. To Black people. Who made him very rich for doing so.
I traveled extensively with a black guy while working for one of our great southern states. He was black college educated, built like a running back, and dressed impeccably. Eating lunch in a restaurant one day, he had a black girl lay over the back of his side of the booth and ask him all sassy like, "You like to party?" A quick exchange of numbers and he was set for the rest of that week. Happened in almost every town we hit, big or small. He talked about tattooing all of his "cocaine Annies" when we weren't traveling - "Stealin' dey pride" - until he tried rock, lost about 30 lbs and half of his mind before he was able to kick, but it still cost him his job. That was the last I heard of him. To complete the cultural portrait, he had an out-of-wedlock son he saw infrequently.
"If there is anyone I feel sorry for it is the black woman. I can only imagine what they have to put up with."
I agree with this.
Are there any sbpdl domains out there still? I'm sure we can pull together a forum without paul doing it for us, right?
I bring that up because I am also a St Louisan. Much more recent than the other posters(moved here in the late 90s) and only about Paul's age. Anyhow, just a thought.
On topic, I don't have anything new to add. It's been pretty well covered.
"Gotta disagree with some of the commenters here. If there is anyone I feel sorry for it is the black woman. I can only imagine what they have to put up with."
Believe me, they dish out as much as they take. I thought that whole routine about Aunt Esther terrorizing her menfolk on "Sanford and Son" was just a mean stereotype. Nope. You haven't lived till you've seen an irate black woman chase her man down the street in broadlight, screeching at him to come back, while all the other blacks laugh.
My observation has been black men show little to no loyalty to their womenfolk and black women show little to no respect for their menfolk. Black men and women deserve each other.
Just think about this: how often do you see a black couple out in public holding hands or even just walking close together? My husband and I still hold hands in public and we're an old, unromantic couple in our 50's.
The black lives as a pseudothrall at the best of times today. It wouldn't make dime's worth of difference in the material outcomes for blacks if it were brought back.
It would make a very big difference to us.
If our choices are limited to slavery and separation (big if), separation is the only thing that lets us be what we are.
Well...if black women don't get a Valentine, this is how they react...
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/valentines-day-gift-assault-654912
I'm black and I spent 100% of my life in white neighborhoods and most of my friends are white/nonblack. I have a great career and culturally I act white in every way.
People learn culture from their environment. No matter what parents teach their kids, children will always try to emulate the "coolest" kid in school. In black schools, it's the tough guy who gets all the girls. At my schools, it was the "scholar athlete". Point is, if my parents chose to live in a black neighborhood I'd be totally different. Today, I make more money than most WHITE people because I'm smart.
All of my nonwhite girlfriends have been MEET-CUTE relationships.
My question to the group: In your opinion, since I am sucessful and culturally white, is it really a step down for a white girl to date/marry me? Would you discourage your white sister/daughter/friend from dating me as I've self-described?
"If there is anyone I feel sorry for it is the black woman. I can only imagine what they have to put up with."
I don't. Black women are the ones who raised all these men.
The top three sexual themes in R&B songs were the singer's sex appeal, the singer's wealth as it relates to finding a partner, and descriptions of sex acts. [emphasis added]
In other words … me, me, me, me, me!
Someone better schooled in human psychology can feel free to step in and correct me but it seems like narcissism ― which Blacks exhibit in spades (so to speak) ― is the diametric opposite of sentimentality. Bling, grills, Escalades and (c)rappers who just can’t shut the hell up with their monotonous repetitive monologue long enough for a musical interlude all, literally, shriek “Narcissistic Personality Disorder”. Something, unsurprisingly, that Dr. Ali Sinan also diagnoses on the part of Barack Obama.
The least-popular theme in R&B music was "courtship," while country music offered more songs about courtship than any other genre, the study said.
If there is a musical genre that is steeped in sentimentality (or bourbon, for that matter), it's country and western.
After all, what is there for American Blacks to be sentimental about? A return to the "good old days" of exactly what? Slavery? Whoops!
Okay, so let's go back in time (video time point ― 00:00:46), a bit further than slavery in order to avoid that psychological land mine. What do we have?
Mud huts, hunter gatherer nomads, subsistence farming, inter-tribal genocide, famine, illiteracy and every other primitive practice that persists on the Dark Continent to this very day.
So, again, what is there for Blacks to be sentimental about? Far be it from 99.999999% of Blacks to ever admit how even under the conditions of slavery their lot in life was better than that of their brethren back in Africa. The intellectual honesty needed to recognize that simple fact is simply beyond the scope and capacity of what passes for Black "consciousness".
As the power of Black-Run America (BRA) has become the dominant ideology of our nation, any discussion of why this might be has been suppressed in lieu of confronting the notion that a disproportionate number of individual Black people - when added together - have always lacked the ability to engage in safe premarital sex.
None of which addresses an even more fundamental question of "why all the sex?" Is sex a delightful way to while away the hours? Hell yes! As Oscar Wilde was wont to observe:
"I cannot tell you what sex is but I can tell you that there is nothing like it."
However, as with any surfeit of enjoyable pastimes, after a while it palls. Of even greater importance is the significance of astronomically high illegitimacy rates within the Black community.
The high rate of bastardy is a direct indication that all this sex is not being accompanied by any sense of true love. This fact goes to the very core of Black dysfunctionality. In reality, endemic Black illegitimacy reveals individuals whose entire self-esteem derives only from sexual attraction with consummation being the only noteworthy personal achievement. This is the personal inventory of a sluggard. As an unnamed African general observed:
”A man whose ambitions go no deeper than vaginal penetration is, indeed, a shallow man.”
This absence of romantic love directly reflects what can only be termed as a near-congenital lack of forward time planning on the part of Blacks. Clearly, most are not even thinking to "the morning after", much less nine months down the road. It's even safe to say that they are not even thinking the few seconds far enough ahead to put on a damned condom before rutting like wild animals in heat.
[to be continued]
These trends reflect the harsh realities of socioeconomic disadvantages that are taking place as a result of the economic downturn. The people contracting the diseases likely do not have access to health care.
Here we see the "poverty causes crime" pseudo-meme rear its ugly little head. As if, somehow, an empty wallet vectors HIV/AIDS, syphilis, gonorrhea and hepatitis. It is an indiscriminate choice in sex partners, rampant promiscuity and lack of adequate prophylaxis that transmits STDs and not a want of money.
AIDS/HIV is basically kept alive in America via homosexual Black men (many of whom are bisexual, and pass it on to Black women who have rates of HIV at 15 times that of whites).
As always, nature has a way of defeating even the most hopelessly optimistic Liberals. Lavish upon Blacks all you want, they will still negatively select themselves through carelessness, violence and disease transmission if not an overabundance of sheer stupidity. Remember, you can't fix stupid with a pill or band-aid.
Black women are more than three times as likely as white women to remain unmarried for their entire lives, and when they do marry they’re more likely than any other group to marry men with lower incomes, and less education, than their own.
This is stupidity on a steep downhill slide with greased skids. Marrying well beneath your station or intelligence is a surefire way to permanently decrease the success of any offspring and your entire genetic line. This goes beyond mere self-destructiveness and becomes a what amounts to a trans-generational stunting of physical and intellectual potential.
White people all yearn for that magic moment…
And they don't stop yearning, do they? After first meeting, they then yearn for marriage, healthy children, growing old together, grandchildren and a host of other milestones that only become available through future time orientation. None of these things are likely to happen if you cannot plan far enough ahead to wear a rubber.
For Black people, telling their friends they met the father of their children in the back seat of a Pontiac; while he was on probation; or at "the club," which quickly turned into a quickie in the bathroom isn't exactly an encounter that qualifies as a "meet-cute."
Despite this being what appears to be the norm, for Blacks. The lack of sentimentality is not just glaring but totally profound. In combination with the aforementioned lack of future time orientation, it points towards a stunningly shallow persona that is bereft of past or future.
"Living for the moment" is far too polite a description of this behavior. The unconsciousness of lower animals is a more apt model for such instinctive behavior. It damns Blacks even as they unerringly damn themselves through a near-total lack of ambition or character.
Anonymous (February 13, 2012 8:00 PM): Apparently it never occurred to this writer that morality is like kryptonite to black people.
That would be like rayciss and all that schite, however true in reality.
"My question to the group: In your opinion, since I am sucessful and culturally white, is it really a step down for a white girl to date/marry me? Would you discourage your white sister/daughter/friend from dating me as I've self-described?"
You're going to get a variety of answers, from one extreme to the other.
Personally, I've had black friends/neighbors who were "whiter" than some of my own family members. No criminal record, hard-working, god-fearing, english-speaking, etc...
If my sister was interested in you, I'd be okay with it (although I'd encourage YOU to run for the fucking hills).
Oh...if you voted for Obama, all bets are off.
"I don't. Black women are the ones who raised all these men."
This is true.
The reason I sympathize with some (not all) black women is because most seem to be genuinely seeking a permanent relationship and marriage, while most black men seek only promiscuous sex.
Anonymous (February 13, 2012 8:17 PM): Looks like we need to bring back segregation...For black well-being, of course.
Great catch! Another perfect example of how bleeding heart Liberals and Blacks constantly fall prey to The Law of Unintended Consequences™.
I seriously doubt that ― amidst so much blame-fixing ― this Black author even realized the implications of what he wrote.
Anonymous (February 13, 2012 8:49 PM): BLOG MASTER and ZENSTER:
Please comment on NIKKI MINAJ/ youtube/ NASTY HOE
PLEASE...FOR OUR VALENTINES
What can I say? Polite language does not have anywhere near the capacity to adequately describe the level of self-degradation that this Black female "artist" parades onscreen with such dogged determination and bursting pride.
(C)rap "music" simply cannot be taken seriously except as an example of degenerate pathology.
R Neville: I do think this Valentine article is a tad off. I was in our local Walgreens ( I live in inner city St. Louis) yesterday and it was packed with black people buying Valentine's Day items.
You neglect to consider how many Black males view the entire Valentine's Day rigmarole as something that is merely perfunctory in order to get laid.
Were this not the case, there would be far more Black nuclear families and many fewer illegitimate Black children.
THE EXACT OPPOSITE IS TRUE.
"Dogtown! My papa attended Dewey School there in the 1930's. My great-aunt and her husband lived on Wiseman Ave in the 40s-50s.
Have you seen this website?
Dogtown"
My Mom's family moved there in the late 1920's. My Mom and the family lived on Graham and she attended Gratiot until my grandparents moved to ESL after the war.
We rented a house in Dogtown in the 2000's and it was a nice quiet neighborhood. We also lived by the "Hill" and never had any problems.
I think why those neighborhoods survived the plague(as opposed to North City) is that most of the residents were hard scrabble working class that didn't have the money to move. The homes are much larger in North city, demonstrating past wealth, but it is a post apocalyptic shell of its former thriving self.
ESL was a nice place too,and I have fond memories of staying with my grandparents. We went over to West Germany in the early 1970's and when we returned it looked like a war zone.
The plague has swept through ESL and is now working its way into Belleville, Fairview Heights and O'Fallon. I will have nothing to show my 4 year old daughter where many of my early memories were made.
On a lighter note, I second the motion that a forum would be a great idea here.
"(C)rap "music" simply cannot be taken seriously except as an example of degenerate pathology."
Rap is to the music industry what porn is to the movie industry.
Marriage is a product of civilisation which is why it's always been found among the most advanced peoples.
And btw, there's one statistic you'll never hear in the US and probably accounts for the high rate of AIDS in Africans. According to the WHO, 50% of African negro men are bisexual and on the downlow. That's right, 50%!! There's really only one way a man can contract AIDS sexually and that's by anal intercourse where he is the recipient. He later has sex with a female and although AIDS is hard to pass on by normal sex it can happen, but let's also remember that he may be having anal sex with the woman and now it's a lot easier to pass on the virus. So the original cause was a man(50% are bisexual) having anal sex and then passing it on to females with anal sex or even normal sex to a lessor degree.
The possibility of a normal man contracting AIDS from a female, even if she carries the virus(rare in white women) by normal sex is almost 0. There are only a handful of cases on record and even here it's not possible to eliminate every other risk factor.
White women bragging about how they want to be beaten by a black man: http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/horrible-reactions-to-chris-brown-at-the-grammys
Black "culture" makes a lot of headway with the young and stupid (especially women).
I'd be really bloody careful with your assertions about contracting AIDS. Do not stick it in a woman unless you know she is clean. There are also othe STDs that will ruin you.
Be clean!
Charles Martel: Romance is reserved for the higher I.Q. and this is directly related to empathy.
Another solid argument for lack, or absence, of empathy being a primary character defect in Blacks.
Another welcome to Anne. This forum really can use more input from non-White Race Realists.
Net worth of the avg black woman: $5
source
If Foxworthy were a black woman . . .
For Valentines Day you get an EBT card.
Have no relatives names Chester, Alex or Mandy.
Your sister was named after a Lexus.
TB is something you watch.
You've never said, "Howdy!"
You think whoopyobutt is one word.
If it weren't for Spandex you'd be naked.
Lisa B: Gotta disagree with some of the commenters here. If there is anyone I feel sorry for it is the black woman. I can only imagine what they have to put up with.
Then please kindly explain to the studio audience and all the folks at home exactly why it is that so many Black women completely buy into (c)rap "music's" bitch hoe nigga "culture" to the point of proliferating it themselves.
I'm very confident many others here at SBPDL, besides myself, are immensely curious as to how you will explain away that niggling little detail.
Mencken: The poster asked whether anyone had ever seen a young black couple earnestly holding hands.
Kapow! Never have I, not ever.
Anonymous (February 15, 2012 7:00 AM): "If there is anyone I feel sorry for it is the black woman. I can only imagine what they have to put up with."
I agree with this.
Then you and Lisa B both gots some 'splaining to do.
LBD: Black women are the ones who raised all these men.
Touché! It sure as hell wasn't all them perennially absentee baby daddies who did the raisin'.
Great catch!
Whiskey: Whatever else his flaws, the emergence of Tyler Perry is a good thing. He preaches love, family, God, and duty. To Black people. Who made him very rich for doing so.
I'm sure that ― within their limited capacity for perceiving it as such ― nearly all of the audience makes it out to be some kind of satire.
Anonymous (February 15, 2012 3:06 PM): Rap is to the music industry what porn is to the movie industry.
Quite true, except that, unlike (c)rap "music", porn has redeeming features.
"My question to the group: In your opinion, since I am sucessful and culturally white, is it really a step down for a white girl to date/marry me?"
Yes. More-so than you know.
(Although I suspect you're not really a negro)
"Would you discourage your white sister/daughter/friend from dating me as I've self-described?"
I have two sons, both in college right now. I've already told them, and they both understand ...
They can 'date' whoever they want. I don't care.
But they also both know that they had *better* not marry outside their race, and they *BETTER* not present me with a mutt grandchild lest they be banished from my home forever. I doubt I'll have to worry about either though.
If I had a DAUGHTER though? That's different. I probably wouldn't let her out of the house till she was about 40.
I could not believe this story, not after what you wrote, but there it is. An AA woman attacked her boyfriend with a knife because he didn't buy her a Valentine's Day gift.
I'm sure this only increased the hot passion between them...
"That's because whites have some sort of magic that lets them steal all the money for themselves."
I know, right?
It's the Magic Fairie Dust we Whites have.
We sprinkle it, and beautiful homes and roads and cars and jewelry grow up out of the ground, and we grab it all. We are just so mean and racis, we just won't share wif dem good Black folk.
No wonder they come around wif dey hands out, sayin' gibs me dat.
I mean, what else could we expect them to do? They don't know where it is we get the Magic Fairy Dust and all dat schoolin' in dem White schools (grown by out Magic Fairy Dust), ain't no Nice White Ladies NEVER told 'em, neither.
Baldowl said:
"I believe Black is more than just skin deep, dude. Sorry, but I wouldn't want any friends or family dating you."
More than just skin deep? What does that mean? This whole blog is about how Black can't "DO anything right" and here I am kicking butt at work, and living the American dream yet you judge me because of what I look like? I'm sorry, but that makes no sense. Let me ask you this, why is it ok for whites to date Asians, Hispanics and Middle Easterners, but Blacks are absolutely taboo? If I look good, have money, brains, prestige and power, isn't that EXACTLY the type of man most women want?
To B. Herder:
Why would it be a step down if it would be a step up in income or class? And yes, I'm definitely black.
What if your sons married a Latina?
"I think why those neighborhoods[Dogtown, The Hill] survived the plague(as opposed to North City) is that most of the residents were hard scrabble working class that didn't have the money to move."
I think with that class of people, lack of money is one factor but another is just plain solidarity, what used to be called "neighborliness". I was touched to see in the old Dewey School PTA booklet online that long after their kids were grown, my great-aunt and uncle were still active in the PTA. I'm not saying there was anything special about them--the opposite, in fact. That's the kind of thing ordinary Dogtown residents seemed to want to do.
"On a lighter note, I second the motion that a forum would be a great idea here."
So do I. (Can more than one person second a motion?)
Question for EVERYONE:
If the Black community gatherered together and proclaimed that they wished to assimilate into mainstream white culture and renounce their own culture, and afterward cleaned up the black neighborhoods and created their own jobs while educating their youth and preventing crime, would you at that point allow blacks to be your friends, neighbors, and spouses?
Basically what I'm asking is if Blacks eliminate their economic issues both in America and abroad in Africa, would you respect them as equals?
OR
Do you prefer that Blacks forever remain at the bottom of society?
"My question to the group: In your opinion, since I am sucessful and culturally white, is it really a step down for a white girl to date/marry me?"
Yes. Unless it was Mayella Ewell.
"Would you discourage your white sister/daughter/friend from dating me as I've self-described?"
Yes.
Id like a forum too, of course,but without what I presume to be exhaustive moderation, I think the fear is it'd be Stormfront before you know it and dilute the anti-BRA message and palatability by the general public.
As frustrating as it is at times, I get it. there are other sites for other discussion. This is a gateway site
WhiteWashedBlackDude, don't get so cocky buddy, you should be in Africa with bones trough your nose named mugumbo or something like that lol you should say "thank you" to every white person you meet for what their ancestors build. Anyway why a sane person would let you take a dump in a perfect gene pool?
"...Basically what I'm asking is if Blacks eliminate their economic issues both in America and abroad in Africa, would you respect them as equals?
OR
Do you prefer that Blacks forever remain at the bottom of society?"
I choose "B"
Now run along.
-Sweep the leg-
WhiteWashedBlackDude said...
To B. Herder:
Why would it be a step down if it would be a step up in income or class? And yes, I'm definitely black.
What if your sons married a Latina?
What is it that you don't/won't get? We want NOTHING to do with you or your kind. Period. Why is this so hard for you? Why do need us to include you? Why does our acceptance and approval mean so much to you? Why can't you just live with your own kind?
We. Do. Not. Want. You. Why do you want us so?
Pathetic.
-Sweep the leg-
Blacks will revert to their nature. Look at how quickly black family life dissintegrated once you had your civil rights.
Kicking butt at work eh?
Let's see your colleague's honest evaluation.
Anyway, of course there are highly functioning blacks. It's just that you still need to be among whites to blossom. It simply doesn't happen in blactopia Haiti, Zimbabwe, Congo, Detroit. No matter what you do youstill need validation by whites and you know it.
"If the Black community gatherered together and proclaimed that they wished to assimilate into mainstream white culture and renounce their own culture, and afterward cleaned up the black neighborhoods and created their own jobs while educating their youth and preventing crime, would you at that point allow blacks to be your friends, neighbors, and spouses?"
If black people can do all this, they should do it in Africa. It's a big continent with lots of natural resources. I would be genuinely happy for them if they did. But no, I would not want them here as friends, neighbors or spouses, no matter how successful they were.
"Basically what I'm asking is if Blacks eliminate their economic issues both in America and abroad in Africa, would you respect them as equals?"
There are still cultural issues in the black community that I, personally, find unacceptable. But again, I'd be glad for blacks to succeed economically in their homeland. It might surprise you but I pray for black people, just as I pray for whites and other races. Intercessory prayer is one thing I think all whites who are believers can and should do unceasingly for blacks.
"OR
Do you prefer that Blacks forever remain at the bottom of society?"
No. I don't want to live alongside (or over) blacks, period. I'd be happy for blacks to be at the top of their own society in Africa.
WhiteWashedBlackDude: If Blacks cleaned up their act, would we accept them? I don't know, I'm not much of a fantasy or science fiction reader.
Would I want any relative of mine mating with a Negro, even a smart one? No. Even if I were not a racist, genetics and statistics say No. A truly intelligent Black lies so far above the average for his gene pool that he's unlikely to have offspring nearly as smart as himself. It's called "reversion to the mean" in a statistics book. You see, so many genetic coincidences have to occur for someone to be three or four standards deviations above the norm, that the likelihood of the same happening to their offspring is very low. It's like being dealt four of a kind twice in a row. Geniuses usually have really smart kids, but not geniuses.
I'm encouraged by all the honest answers to "Whitewashed black dude" who struts his credentials and demands acceptance. As others noted, there is no way to assess any black's true capabilities and achievements today due to AA and the extreme consequences for Whites who break the PC code.
He is dead wrong in asserting that children pick up their culture from their environment. That is the exact thinking behind busing and sticking black kids in White schools, thinking White culture will somehow rub-off on them. Culture is a product of race. Race is a genetic-based reality. Assimilation is a liberal fallacy.
My sons, too, have been told in no uncertain terms that only a White spouse will be welcomed in our household. I don't think that there's any particular chance they'd be tempted in any case, but our beliefs about race, and the biological and social and cultural facts underlying our beliefs, have been transmitted to our children clearly and repeatedly. My older son dated a half-Hispanic girl for a while. We were underwhelmed. We didn't create a crisis but made our feelings known, and the short-lived relationship died a natural death.
Walter Williams or Thomas Sowell or Clarence Thomas may be educated men who value White culture (and two of the three are married to White women), but their genetic offspring are far more likely to marry blacks and regress to the mean. The White grandmothers will have more in common, genetically, with any strange White on the street than with their own grandchildren. They will look in vain for any resemblance to themselves or their ancestors on these children's faces. Their genetic identifiers will be blotted out.
"Meet-cute?" I know I'm getting old and senile here in my 50s, but I truly had not ever heard that term before. I suppose my husband and I had the opposite experience. We met in language class at the FSI. I noticed his large blue eyes, but hated his beard. He noticed my muscular calves (I was fit and very into aerobics at the time). Neither of us particularly liked the other! Now, 21+ years later, we too (like Kylie and her husband) still hold hands in public.
Anonymous (February 15, 2012 9:36 PM): I'd like a forum too, of course, but without what I presume to be exhaustive moderation, I think the fear is it'd be Stormfront before you know it and dilute the anti-BRA message and palatability by the general public.
As frustrating as it is at times, I get it. there are other sites for other discussion. This is a gateway site
Excellent analysis.
Thanks for the welcomes - been reading SBPDL for a few years but had never commented.
I'd like to say to Whitewashed Black Dude: Most people accept that there are exceptions to the norm of black culture, who are law-abiding, productive members of society. But why do you need validation of being told you have a right to white women? Many black women would be grateful to marry an upstanding black man. Do you simply have a physical preference for white women? Is that a good enough reason to deny them children who look like them? While I don't let it destroy my life, I can't get over thinking that my parents were selfish. For my whole life, no one believes my mother and I are related, causing many awkward situations. I look absolutely nothing like any of my family.
I consider myself culturally White, but I accept that at only 5/8 White, I am not. I have no desire to have children but I would not marry a White guy either, nor do I feel the need to be accepted as White...as long as I don't have to be lumped in with the black race I don't relate to. Anyway, it's not a matter of a "step up" or a "step down" - it's that it's a union that puts an end to both races. Instead you could create a black elite by finding an equally successful black women and bringing up your children with positive values.
-White-acting mulatto
Feel sorry for black women?
Sounds DWL to me.
Black women tolerate and accept the behavior of black men. You have to blame black women for what they have raised. You cannot blame parasitic blacks for accepting every kind of handout from whitey via the DWLs and the taxman.
You have to blame the idiots who give them foodstamps and the like. Every rational person who has dealt with any negroes knows, that given the option between hard work for a day's pay and watch Jerry Springer for a day's foodstamp, disability, whatever, that the negroe will choose the latter, not the former.. Therefore it is the fault of those who, in denying the absolute reality with which all must contend, that without work, you cannot eat, to the negroes, and replacing this reality with the notion that whitey will pay your bills if you just cry racist.
I don't know a single Negro, whose birth was the result of the actions of anybody but a Negro female.
Just my opinion of course
Btw...great site. Thanks
"kicking butt at work"
bwahahahahahahahagahahahha!
nice catch whoever noticed that! I'm so gullible, I accepted it at face value lol
wwblack *truly believes* he's kicking ass when in actuality he's just a little kid wearing dads big ol shoes and pretending to go to work.
wwblack, we don't pretend around here. Black people don't work like whites, among other things. Your whole life you've been passed along and protected from criticism or consequences by your race.
The truth is you're passed through school to avoid being called rayciss. That doesnt mean your smart, it just means you're black and the bar is set lower for you.
Same thing in the workplace. since you're unfireable we promote you to be someone elses problem. We put up with your horrible work to avoid being calles ray ciss and set the bar lower for you. see a pattern?
I know you're looking to call everybody nazis that hate you just for the melanin in your skin. It ain't that simple.
You want to hear hate? be a white guy with a black female when a group of black fools notice. they can't shut up with the insults.
whites don't do that.
"If I look good, have money, brains, prestige and power, isn't that EXACTLY the type of man most women want?"
NO, it isn't, or at least shouldn't be. Women should be looking for men of character, men of courage, valor, determination, and responsibility.
Traits that seem absent amongst many of your racial brethren.
Now, go find yourself a decent black woman to marry, they need men like you.
PS. that quote pretty much sums why you're different than me!
To Sheila:
You're exactly the kind of woman I could love!
Don't tell your husband, but I think I do.
Dissident said...
"If I look good, have money, brains, prestige and power, isn't that EXACTLY the type of man most women want?"
good catch dissident
um if you're a nigger that's what you look for
or been infected by BRA propaganda.
you might as well have said $300 shirts, an escalade on 22s, and a grille(not the one on your car)
why don't you watch 'guess who's coming to dinner ' to get the answers you seek?
my sister was engaged to a black doctor. he was an abusive asshole but rich and smart and good looking. we thanked god they didn't have kids. she married a great white guy.
It fucks up the cohesiveness of the family to have a foreign race in it. I kmow biracial people, have dated them, it works to their advantage when convenient but in general fucks them up, never having a community to fully identify with.
Its selfish to have half breed kids.
I don't care what adults do, Ive dated outside my race. I want my kids to look like me, and bullshit it doesn't make a difference.
To WhiteWashedBlackDude, checkout this link,
http://amren.com/videos/1971/1101-muhammad-ali/index.html.
Muhammad Ali sums up my opinion.
You sound like a stand up guy and the black community needs you.
To WhiteWashedBlackDude:
Your question:
If the Black community gatherered together and proclaimed that they wished to assimilate into mainstream white culture and renounce their own culture, and afterward cleaned up the black neighborhoods and created their own jobs while educating their youth and preventing crime, would you at that point allow blacks to be your friends, neighbors, and spouses?
Basically what I'm asking is if Blacks eliminate their economic issues both in America and abroad in Africa, would you respect them as equals?
OR
Do you prefer that Blacks forever remain at the bottom of society?
First, I tip my hat toward your boldness. This group can be a tough crowd.
Secondly, I'm going to try to give you my opinion, and I'm not sure how common of an experience others have had as a result. As they say, mileage varies.
You're speaking of the Blacks essentially renouncing their Black identity -- which I never see happening. Ever since the days of slavery, there has been this divide, which I totally understand. If a group of people had enslaved me and my family, I'm sure I would have grown up with hatred and resentment.
Yes, times have changed. Our country changed and many tried to correct the injustices done. However, within the Black community, you have what Tammy Bruce calls "The Misery Merchants." These are people like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. They keep stirring the pot, provoking discontent because it benefits them. They make a ton of money speaking to Black churches and communities because "No justice, no peace" makes a good living.
When the day comes where education is not seen as "trying to be White," then you may have a good start to what your questions addressed.
I knew a young Black gal who was smart as a whip. She was attending a ministry school in addition to the local college. I said her family must be proud. She looked a little disappointed as she slightly frowned while shaking her head. "Not really," she said.
I asked why? We had already had some honest discussions about race. Her answer: "They think I'm being uppity. They think I'm trying to be White."
And there you have it. Many Blacks have bought into this crazy-talk and sabotaged their own success before it had a chance to take root. You have several generations now of Black kids who despised school and learning, instead grabbing onto Rap and sports in order to make money because that's what was valued in their communities.
At this point in the U.S., many Blacks are at the bottom because of their own choice. No one can tell me differently. Not when you have a man such as Clarence Thomas who came from a rough childhood and grew up to become a Supreme Court Justice. Many people -- White, Black, Japanese, Indian, etc., who had backgrounds that were less than bountiful; have ended up as a success because they just wouldn't give up. Overcoming trials and challenges isn't just a "Black thing" although many Blacks would try to claim that. It's a "human race thing."
Those who quit whining and go for the gold are the ones who usually get it. We live in a country where there are a whole lotta people invested in keeping the Black man down. And not all of them are White and Republican, either.
Why else do you think people like Condoleeza Rice, Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, and Rep. Allen West are so hated by Democrats? It's because they're showing the Black community what can be done when you put your mind to something and ignore the haters and critics.
The Misery Merchants have to stop such obvious success. Their own livelihood depends on it.
Anon, whitewashed reply.
Conservatives and the GOP have delegitimized white society as much as anyone else they are not racist or realistic about race. With feel good appointments like arice They are multicult light. The flirtation with Cain suggests they harbor a grovelling attitude toward the blacks. Romney is not going to win partly because he isn't a racist and he's running against a black. The press alone will crush him. McCain was drubbed because he didn't articulate a racist position. I'd have provoked blacks into a riot or two, somehow, if I were him. Romney is just a token effort too. I do not understand why the GOP are called racists at all.
Rice, Powell, Obama, Thomas, Holder, Nutter et al are all part of a minority occupation. Ideological liberalism and conservatism are secondary to race. Powell voted for Obama for christ's sake. The GOP bends over backward to impress blacks.
@WhiteWashedBlackDude
"Why would it be a step down if it would be a step up in income or class? And yes, I'm definitely black."
You don't understand. $$ has absolutely *nothing* to do with it, and as such, 'class' means nothing if you're measurement of 'class' is by how fat your wallet is. This is the problem with negros.. Their whole perception of class/worth/status/self esteem/etc is all measured by the roll in their pocket,the car they drive, or how many bathrooms in their house.
White people (believe it or not.. At least any worth being associated with) live by a whole different set of values.
I doubt you'll ever understand this.
"What if your sons married a Latina?"
That will never happen, so I'm not worried about it.
"Let me ask you this, why is it ok for whites to date Asians, Hispanics and Middle Easterners.."
Who said that was OK?
If WWBD is actually Black and not a White troll, you MUST give him credit for writing better-spelled, more grammatical and better-reasoned English than the majority of US high-school graduates of any race.
Some things cannot be granted by Affirmative Action or social promotion. That's one of them.
"If WWBD is actually Black and not a White troll, you MUST give him credit for writing better-spelled, more grammatical and better-reasoned English than the majority of US high-school graduates of any race."
Of course. But just the fact that he appears to be exceptional is a good reason for not basing social policy on him and [the few] others like him. Good social policy is made on the basis of the majority, on what's likely or probably to happen, not what might happen once in a blue moon.
The trouble is when you meet a black person like him (and even if he's a fictitious poster, there are blacks as intelligent as he seems to be), you want to include him. And that's "the thin end of the wedge". Take that desire to include an intelligent black to its logical conclusion and you end up with a black family in the White House.
And whatever the social scientists say, there are far too many differences between the races for a black leader ever to govern effectively and fairly over a white populace. Of course, there are other problems with the desire to include the exceptional black person but in this election year, I thought I'd focus on that one.
What would I like my offspring to look like?
I close my eyes and visualize the faces of my Mom and Dad.
What did their offspring look like?
Thin edge of the wedge? wow I never heard that before thanl you kylie!
our fucking universal, indiscriminate compassion is our giant weakness. When and how did this happen?!?
we didn't settle this continent by being a weak, feminized nation of cowards!
Winston Smith: our fucking universal, indiscriminate compassion is our giant weakness. When and how did this happen?!?
When White Guilt (i.e., White Man's Burden), became an accepted norm to such an extent that any Third World Thom, Duc or Hari found out they could milk it like the last cow on the farm.
For WhiteWashedBlackDude, every black I've met who has a job has the same idea about themselves being black-in-color-only.
Even the best only take only a few weeks of being around to offer up proof of the contrary.
The fact that your post closes with the inevitable "where tha white women?" is all anyone here should need to read.
To the 2 posts about sensible young people who grew up to be DWLs; I think what happened was college. You know, the deal with the devil to be able to live a life around significantly less blacks as long as you tow the line about how great they are.
"Mr. Rational said...
If WWBD is actually Black and not a White troll, you MUST give him credit for writing better-spelled, more grammatical and better-reasoned English than the majority of US high-school graduates of any race."
The only reason I believe he's a negro, (Which I had my doubts, at first) is because he puts 'wealth' over 'values' as in being 'better classed'... THAT right there has 'Negro-BLING' written all over it. It's all they know, it's all they care about.
It doesn't really matter that a negro can put together a coherent sentence, (Spell-check/grammar can fix a lot of that) what matters is the negro-mindset. And he's dripping of it.
I doubt that this type of thing will ever be erased.
Actually, giving a negro 'credit' for not sounding like a blithering idiot in a post, is kinda' like giving them credit for not doing a home-invasion last week.
Day to day, week to week. But sooner or later, given enough ... They ALWAYS revert to their 'roots'..
"To the 2 posts about sensible young people who grew up to be DWLs; I think what happened was college."
Actually, my friend was fairly sensible through her 40's. But she's typical of the kind of white woman Whiskey is always talking about. She's a never-married professional woman who lives an affluent urban lifestyle and associates mainly with other single white women and gay white men. Both of these groups tend to be hard-left and have become even more so in the last decade as the entire nation politically polarized. Single women increasingly look to the government to function as a surrogate husband and gays keep pushing the envelope because an increasingly liberal and permissive gestalt suits them just fine.
We had dinner with 8 of her friends, there were 5 men and five women. Of the 5 men, only one was straight; of the women, only I had ever been married. You see where I'm going with this.
And of course, she thinks having blacks and Hispanics everywhere is just fine. In the week I spent with her, we saw plenty of both. But the only ones we spoke to were clerks, waiters, etc. Since she lives in an upscale area that would never tolerate typical ghetto or barrio behavior, all the help was slim, neatly dressed, well-spoken and courteous. I could see where a white who lives in such an urban bubble would think the rest of us are horrid racists. I didn't bother telling her my negative first-hand experiences with more typical blacks and Hispanics. She'd either disbelieve me or make excuses for them.
It's really weird to see how blind she is now.
"Meet-cute?!?" Are you serious? Are you guys complete faggots?? What self-respecting man, of any race, gives a toss about a "meet-cute?" To mimic a scene in a romantic comedy? Really? You guys care about this?
"Black women are, by a wide margin, the least appealing of all the females on the entire planet.
They are ugly, arrogant, ignorant, rude and smell just as bad if not worse than their brudders."
Right, right. Of Course. Surely, you can quantify this, right? I mean, this isn't just personal opinion, right?
You know, it's funny. I'm white. Asian/Hispanic wife. And we live in Harlem, NYC. Completely safe. Been living here for 8 years. Never a problem. Not once. Our neighbors are polite and courteous (well, for NYC) Have never felt unsafe. I freely walk around listening to my $200 iPhone. I feel safe parading around in my $300 loafers. Never been a problem. So...what world are you living in?
Nit giving a Toss in NYC,
People get along until tbey don't. Just remember that.
I'm going to address your post. The thread was started on Valentine's Day. Thus meet cute among other things. This actually is a day for romancing women. The different take that blacks take on mating rituals is quite
instructive. It should be so for all women especially. Blacks commit an inordinate amount of interrracial rape and sexual assault. The rape rates per capita dwarf those of more civilized whites. To Kill A Mockingbird was
broadly speaking a complete fabrication about how black men treat white women. There are about 30,000 black on white rapes in the US every single year. A few dozen white on black rapes in the same time period. In Congo there is a rape every 45 seconds. 400,000 a years. 4x that of America. These are facts not general impressions.
"'Meet-cute?!?' Are you serious? Are you guys complete faggots??"
Typical "progressive". Disagrees with someone and instantly resorts to name-calling.
The point was that white men, unlike black men, look for something in a relationship besides sexual gratification.
"'Black women are, by a wide margin, the least appealing of all the females on the entire planet.'
Right, right. Of Course. Surely, you can quantify this, right? I mean, this isn't just personal opinion, right?"
We don't have to quantify it. The evolutionary psychologist Satoshi Kanazawa already did. He says their relative lack of attractiveness is due to their higher BMIs and testosterone levels.
Black Women Less Attractive
"You know, it's funny. I'm white. Asian/Hispanic wife. And we live in Harlem, NYC. Been living here for 8 years. Never a problem. Not once. Our neighbors are polite and courteous (well, for NYC) Have never felt unsafe. I freely walk around listening to my $200 iPhone. I feel safe parading around in my $300 loafers. Never been a problem."
Nothing funny about it. Even here in a small town in a flyover state, I've been reading for years now that the gentrification of Harlem has meant the black population has decreased and so has crime. But you don't have to take my word for it. Here are articles from the NYT. You do read the NYT, don't you? being a multi-culti, urban sophisticate and all, right?
Gentrification Changes Harlem
No Longer Majority Black, Harlem Is In Transition
"So...what world are you living in?"
We sure don't have to ask you that.
You can't understand what is plainly written and you resort to name-calling rather than offer an argument based on facts and logic. You are apparently unaware of a scientific article that made international headlines and of the major demographic and cultural changes where you claim to live.
You live in a world where having the right PC knee-jerk reactions is all that matters.
Oh and a helpful hint, since you don't seem to get out much unless you're taking a neighborhood stroll in your $300 loafers. Don't try that "faggot" accusation in SF unless you want to have your $200 iPhone stuck somewhere besides your ears.
Reg. Anon @ February 18, 2012 10:28 AM
I doubt very much this guy is a true DWL. First, he wouldn't use the term "Faggot" to address us.
He's either a whigger Guido type or some SWPL wannabe Negro.
Going on about his 200$ Iphone and his 300$ Italian loafers is so typical of classless blingers.
walk down the street in some michael jordan riot - air kicks and swap lies with the boyz and see how long you keeps dem
Where the hell do you people live???? In the deep south or something? Your comments are one-sided and lack any real intelligence.
Forget free speech for you hate mongers on this site... I'm soooooo going to find a way to get this site shut down.
You're absolutely right, whites don't do that. They just create sinister websites and sayit behind their backs... true to white coward form... smh
This is the most ignorant website I have ever been on, you should be ashamed.
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