Wednesday, September 28, 2011

K - K - Kome On: The Ice Cream Family Corner & Sandwiches Mascot Offends the Perpetually Offended Denizens of Organized Blackness

Quite note: technical difficulties have postponed the first SBPDL Podcast until tomorrow night. 

How often do you read about a companies marketing campaign being declared 'racist'? The slightest racial insensitivity in advertising is deemed the second-coming of the KKK, an obvious (and ominous) sign that America is prepared for cross-burnings, a shortage of white sheets at Wal-Mart, Target, Macy's, Nordstrom's, Linens 'n Things, Bed Bath and Beyond, and Costco, and discriminatory violence courtesy of nooses and robed individuals.

Not unlike the type of violence directed at whites nationwide by Black people in the summer of 2011.

In the real world, the KKK has - a rough estimate - less than 1,500 members. Of those, 1,300 are paid informants of the FBI or other organizations that monitor "hate," and the dwindling few reactionaries are clamoring to go on the now defunct Jerry Springer Show for some precious airtime.

This fact doesn't dissuade Black people and Disingenuous White Liberals (DWLs) from believing that this "invisible empire" is poised for a comeback and prepared to strike at a moments whim. In the book I Heard it Through the Grapevine: Rumor in African-American Culture, we learn that the most pernicious myth plaguing Black people is the continued belief that the KKK went underground and infiltrated companies nationwide, trading white sheets for balanced sheets:

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One of the most persistent themes in the world of black rumors is the fearsome powers of the Ku Klux Klan. For example, during the 1980s and even up to the present, many blacks firmly believed that the Church’s Fried Chicken fast food chain was owned by the Klan and that its food was doctored to sterilize black men. In 1984, a congressman actually had the FDA conduct mass spectrometry and gas chromatography tests on Church’s chicken to see what was in it. Naturally, the FDA found nothing suspicious, but these results did not satisfy “the folk,” as Prof. Turner often calls blacks. Some of her informants explained that the Klan would have had no trouble persuading the FDA to lie about the tests.

Another recent Klan enterprise is said to have been the Troop Sport clothing company, which was founded in 1985 and sold 95 percent of its clothes to blacks and Hispanics. The Troop name reportedly stood for “To Rule Over Oppressed People,” and the linings of shoes and jackets were supposed to contain messages like “Thank you, nigger, for making us rich.” Some young blacks who wore Troop clothes despite the rumor and subsequent boycott were attacked as traitors by other blacks.

Troop spent hundreds of thousands of dollars trying to fight the rumor. It hired the black singing group Gladys Night and the Pips to improve its image and posted anti-Klan posters in stores. The campaign failed and Troop went bankrupt, though the company denied that the boycott was the cause.
Prof. Turner tells us that the most recent alleged Klan front has been the Brooklyn Bottling Company, which sells a soda called Tropical Fantasy. Like Church’s chicken, the soda was said to be laced with a drug that would selectively sterilize black men. There is no odorless, tasteless substance that sterilizes anyone, much less only black men, but the FDA duly trotted out its mass spectrometers and cleared Tropical Fantasy. The rumor was unaffected and caused serious losses for Brooklyn Bottling. It also provoked violence; blacks attacked delivery trucks and roughed up storekeepers who stocked Tropical Fantasy.

“The folk” credit the Klan with many achievements. It is said to have killed John Kennedy and to be deeply involved in the tobacco business. The eponymous founders of Philip Morris and R.J. Reynolds are both said to have been important Klan members (despite the fact that Philip Morris was British), and Kool menthol cigarettes are suspect because of the brand’s ominous misspelling.

The Klan is likewise thought to have killed Martin Luther King, though the government may have helped. As one informant said, “I heard it was the FBI or the KKK—one of those groups.” Prof. Turner notes that for many of “the folk,” there is no real difference between the two.

Enter an ice cream parlor started by immigrants in Ocala, Florida, the latest incarnation of the KKK's impending return:
Once and for all, people, it's an ice cream cone.

The owners of Ice Cream Family Corner and Sandwiches at the busy intersection of South Pine Avenue and Southwest 17th Street in Ocala say their two-month-old business is getting creamed because passers-by have mistaken their white-hooded ice cream cone mascot for a KKK protester.

Liza Diaz, who manages the store for Cantres and co-owner Jesus Diaz, said an employee at the bank where she does business told her a co-worker was so frightened by the white dollop patrolling the street corner that she called her husband cryingand refused to drive through the intersection.

"One (customer) told me, ‘I had to think twice before coming in here because I thought it was KKK,' " Diaz said.

Bigotry never tasted so good.
Interestingly, Diaz, who is from Puerto Rico, had never heard of the KKK before this controversy. She can't even quite get her tongue around the name, referring to the white supremacist group as the "Ku Ku Klan" without a hint of irony or sarcasm.

Close up, the costume looks nothing like the white-hooded Klan garb that evokes such strong emotions. Its fluffy white top, flecked with colored sprinkles, curls slightly at its peak, and it sits atop a brown waffle cone.

Co-owner Jose Cantres says rumors are swirling on Facebook about the exact nature of the little vanilla cone, and employees heard through word of mouth that potential customers have steered clear of the shop to avoid the character.
Here's another story from the local Fox-affiliate, complete with hilarious Local News Story broadcast. If America survives when whites are the minority (judging by Detroit and the many cities and counties abandoned to the Black Undertow and the rate white people flee states that go Brown, this won't be the case), will recent immigrants - turned entrepreneur, because of the relative few Black people opening businesses - be embarrassed for opening up a store and creating a harmless mascot that barely has a resemblance to a KKK member?

Yes. Of course. Then again, if there is ever a run on white bed sheets, you better believe the Mainstream Media will have story prepared on this dramatic development.

What is your favorite story of Organized Blackness complaining about a business or corporation using unflattering advertisements to market their product or service that self-righteous DWLs and "The Blacks" decided to boycott and attack as 'racist'?

Alright, for some reason this story made me desire vanilla ice cream. Might even put some chocolate sprinkles on it.


Ice Cream store mascot mistaken for KKK: MyFoxORLANDO.com


78 comments:

Anonymous said...

Just to once again show the double standards I present to you "stinky gringo" margarita mix
http://www.stinkygringo.com/stinkyStuff.asp

mr_evergreen said...

Of course it is offensive. The KKK is a terrorist organization.

Anonymous said...

Blacks are like sniveling, pathetic infants.

Zenster said...

In 1984, a congressman actually had the FDA conduct mass spectrometry and gas chromatography tests on Church’s chicken to see what was in it. Naturally, the FDA found nothing suspicious, but these results did not satisfy “the folk,” as Prof. Turner often calls blacks. Some of her informants explained that the Klan would have had no trouble persuading the FDA to lie about the tests.

This is nothing short of the same "racist" cries of Islam as its imams forbid polio inoculations due to how they are "a method of sterilizing Muslims". Guess what, polio is on the rise for the first time in decades.

Furthermore, Islam is NOT a race.

We've seen this exact same crap played out with the claims that "crack cocaine was invented by the CIA to debilitate America's Black community"; as if Blacks (or Whites), could not somehow overcome whatever addiction to that substance. Perish the frickin' thought.

Some young blacks who wore Troop clothes despite the rumor and subsequent boycott were attacked as traitors by other blacks.

Ignorance attacks itself. Quelle surprise!

Black America complaining about "racism" is not one whit removed from the way that Islam complains about "racism", despite the fact that Islam is NOT a race.

It is all a ginned up grievance-industry that seeks to penalize more productive people for being just that, more productive people.

Horreurs!

Anonymous said...

Ahem. Football content? I'm not seeing it. Please fix.

Lily White said...

*Facepalm* So...there's a level of Klan membership that, once reached, they get to wear pastel sprinkles on their robes?

Anonymous said...

Dear Black People,

Give it a rest, will you?

Mike James

Old White Jim said...

The cannibals made similar claims when they forced Sambo's to shut down in the early 1980's. The obvious evidence that "Little Black Sambo" was about a lower-caste Hindu kid from India was far beyond the comprehension level of the angry race hustlers who caused the uproar. You just can't explain things to people who aren't fully evolved.

When our race problems finally hit full stride, I know that I'm going to thoroughly enjoy the inevitable online videos of bleeding DWLs trying to explain to the frenzied Jungle Mob that they are good crackers. The future is bright, indeed.

Anonymous said...

Have you heard of the Berkely "increase diversity bake sale"? A republican campus club held a bake sale that charged white males the most, native American indians the least and a 25% discount for females to draw attention to a California bill on the governors desk that allows race to be considered for admissions, grants and loans.
FUNNY!!!!!!!!

Left coast white guy

JB said...

Kersey,

Another hilarious post. This stuff almost writes itself, but you always manage to give the story a little je ne sais quois and take it to next absurd level.

Quick side note re: Klan uniforms depicted as white sheets and pillowcases:

Twenty or so years ago, I was at the home of a colleague who was twenty or so years older than I. This was his family home, and he had inherited it from his grandfather. The home was a massive three-story farm house, all hardwood floors and high ceilings, a wrap-around porch on two sides, etc., circa 1910. It had the original lightning rod on the roof.

So I'm over there, admiring the place, and he says, "Hey, I gotta show you something."

He takes me up to the attic (so now, we're actually FOUR stories up), opens up this ancient steamer trunk, and pulls out a full Klan uniform...the hood, and the gown.

"This was my grandfathers," he tells me. He spent time in the Klan in the '30s, and this was his uniform.

As I held the hood and gown, I knew this was FAR from a sheet and pillow case. This was a bona fide uniform. It was made of hemp, very thick, professionally sewn, hemmed...the hood, my gosh, this thing was terrifying...the cone jutted three feet back, stiff as a board, the eye holes were stitched and seemed, the flaps on front and back that fit over the shoulders firmly anchored the whole array...utterly professional. As was the gown...substantial, sewn, hemmed. Wearing this, I thought, you could be hit with a rock and not feel it.

Far from a sheet and pillowcase, it was a professional uniform. And I should know, because I've worn one.

I was surprised when my colleague told me about Klan activity in this particular town, and in the other small towns throughout the region, in the '20s and '30s, because, I had believed at the time, that this region of the country had no Klan activity.

But they were here. Masked vigilantes in identical professional uniforms (designed to strike utter terror into the hearts of evildoers within their community...a very SUPERSTITIOUS segment, then, as now) riding the night, lighting the signal, and sending a message.

Reminds me of another hooded vigilante, come to think of it...

Anonymous said...

Short article on current "ethnic" violence in Bulgaria, very enlightening. Ethnic Bulgarians v. The Roma, aka Gypsies. The hated, stinking, subhuman fucking Gypsies, eternal enemy of mankind:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/antiroma-riots-engulf-bulgaria-after-teenage-tragedy-2361944.html

Story takes three minutes to read. Compare and contrast to BRA.

Zenster said...

I'm sure everything would have been all right if only the curbside cone boy had been chocolate dipped. [/sarc]

Discard said...

A man dressed as an ice cream cone is enough to scare away Black people? And to think that some businesses have been paying for armed guards.

Anonymous said...

Idiocracy...

DGB

Anonymous said...

Victimhood is big business, naturally they have to trump up charges in order to keep it going.

Anonymous said...

There used to be this thing called the Minute Men...

Remember? I do. My family was there.

Ready-response early warning system.

I'm as ready as I can be. It's in my blood.

These are revolutionary times. We know who the enemy is.

Indianapolis said...

Had the icon dressed as chocolate rather than vanilla, there would have been no misunderstanding.

Indianapolis said...

Off topic

Here's an idea for the forthcoming revamped SBPDL web site:

Donors who contribute $10 or more per month will get their own discussion forum, be able to post comments immediately without pre-screening, or some other premiums for their support.

Dissident said...

Don't fear the Racist (TM) KKK they're just a bunch of Hollywood created buffoons. Who you really need to fear is the TAN-CLAN. The Real domestic terrorists are these flash mobs, and these negro savages that are terrorizing our cities.

Now, for some Ben & Jerry's.

Anonymous said...

It is utterly beyond me why anyone would spend money to rent a copy of "Idiocracy" when all that has to be done is to look at news reports like this one.

Congratulations,BRA-your society has reached the point where truth is stupider than fiction.

Ex Gladio Libertas

MuayTyson said...

As a child I remember a big fat black playground monitor who had the first gold tooth I ever saw this Was about 1976. She felt it was her duty to inform all of us that Hubbabubba bubble gum contained spider eggs. This woman was a great link to the ghetto and a font of misinformation.

Dissident said...

Hey Evergreen! Don't forget to add the Black Panthers,the SPLC, the NAACP, the Congressional Black Caucus and many others to your terrorist watch list.

Black RACISM (TM) is alive and well in this country and don't you try to deny it either.

We're race realists here, not RACISTS (TM); learn to make that distinction.

Anonymous said...

Of course it is offensive. The KKK is a terrorist organization.


The KKK is more of a jobs program for federal law enforcement agencies,and informants. If you're paying taxes,reflect on that. A percentage of the funds that are taken from you are then used so that and FBI informant can tell his handler everything that an informant from the BATFE was doing. While the informant from the DEA or whoever else was listening. Or trice versa.

Van said...

Evergreen: "Of course it is offensive. The KKK is a terrorist organization."

No, dumbass. You could claim it to be offensive if they actually used a klansman. This is a fucking ice cream cone, you idiot.

The resemblance makes it poor marketing. But its in no way offensive.

mr_evergreen said...

"Blacks are like sniveling, pathetic infants"

Who are you to say that? Are you God? I don't think so!!

"Hey Evergreen! Don't forget to add the Black Panthers,the SPLC, the NAACP, the Congressional Black Caucus and many others to your terrorist watch list"

Those organizations were started as a response to racism AGAINST Blacks. The Black Panther Party, when it orginally started, was explicitly about the power structure. Whites helped start the SPLC and the NAACP. The New Black Panther Party is a terrorist organization.

"No, dumbass. You could claim it to be offensive if they actually used a klansman. This is a fucking ice cream cone, you idiot"

Wow, you respond by cursing at me and calling me names. I disagree with alot of what gets said on SBPDL, but I don't go insulting people and using foul language.

Anonymous said...

I appreciate Ms. Evergreen coming here to give us a daily reminder of black paranoia and stupidity. Thanks!

Anonymous said...

"Who are you to say that? Are you God? I don't think so!!"

Mr Evergreen, your whining has become tiresome.

Do you believe that only God is allowed to express his opinion of black people??

The fact that you CHOOSE to be offended at a fucking ice cream cone is further evidence that you are a pathetic infant.

Don't like it??

I don't give a fuck.

Anonymous said...

"I don't go insulting people and using foul language."

For fuck's sake, who gives a fuck?

B. Herder said...

Maybe we could get on Facebook or YouTube or some other massive website and start claiming that things like McD's, grape soda, KFC, Newport cigarettes, Old English 800, etc, contain (Insert chemical/bacteria/virus/other-strange-substance here) that causes only negros to come down with (Insert affliction here)... Just sitting back and watching what the results are could be hilarious.

Anonymous said...

mr evergreen,

Seriously. Dude. It's a FUCKING ICE CREAM CONE.

Get away from White people, forever. You don't need to share anything with us. We don't want your tax revenue, or your business, or help, or anything.

Anonymous said...

Sambo is the Swedish for live in lover. Sweden b rayciss' n sheeit!

Stephen said...

I actually drove by that guy!!! The negroes here might seem pacified, but they're just like negroes anywhere.

Van said...

Evergreen: "Wow, you respond by cursing at me and calling me names."

You look at a suit designed to represent an ice cream cone, and deem it offensive because it reminds some of the KKK? I'm comfortable with my assessment of your mentality.

You could look at the photo and, while observing the resemblance to a klansman, realize that its clearly an ice cream cone and that its a perfectly legitimate mascot for an ice cream store.

But no, it reminded you of something negative, so its offensive. Another reason why most of the "good" blacks are anything but.

By the way, if you're going to hang around here, answer the question. Its clear how blacks benefit from being in a white society, how do we benefit from having you around? What to YOU do, Evergreen, that balances out the chaos caused by your racial brethren? Do you have some special gift that no white person possesses? Does this make up for the crime, the chaos, the taxes, etc?

YIH said...

''mr evergreen'' said;''The KKK is a terrorist organization.''.
Well that answers that question: ''mr evergreen'' is just another ''Desiree'' sock puppet as far as I'm concerned.
So ''mr evergreen''/''Desiree''/Diarrhea (I like that nick for it) explain why you think Paul is a Klansman.
His film namesake wasn't.

Stuff Black People Don't Like said...

Mr. Evergreen is not Desiree. This person has their own blog and has been online since 2008.

Again, the real question is if the KKK purchased a radio towers in every major city and transmits low-frequency radio waves (that only Black males can hear) which tells them to engage in murder, assaults, thievery and other criminal activities (preying largely upon other BLack people, because white people do everything possible to move away from the Black Undertow), drop-out of high school or engage in disruptive behavior at school that gets them disciplined at greater rates then all other races, and keeps them wearing their pants around their waste, thus virtually unemployable (save in federal, state, or local government positions).

That is the real KKK power: Black people are engaging in far more disruptive behavior on their own without any nefarious interference from white dudes in white sheets from linens 'n things.

And it's all radio waves, or signals being sent from smart phones (perhaps EBT cards too!)


But Mr. Evergreen is not Desiree.

fuck DWLs said...

Baldowl, most clowns do not kill, rape and steal indiscriminately.

You have been watching too many horror movies.

Anonymous said...

Maybe a bit OT, but speaking of terrorist organizations: If I remember my gang history correctly, the Crips street gang was started to combat the oppression of The Black Panther Party. Then, the Bloods street gang was started to fight the oppression of the Crips. Apparently a vicious cycle. It seems whenever black folk get a sufficient amount of power they become oppressive tyrants. Though I suppose it could all be a coincidence.

Rev. Dr,. Swift said...

You know FUBU clothing is racist, right. It was started by the Klan. Some people believe FUBU stands for "For Us By Us" or "Five Urban Brothers United," but I know better. It really stands for Fucked Up Black Ubangi. Why do you think all those patterns evoke thoughts of Africa?

Anonymous said...

@ fucK DWLs: you said MOST clowns don't kill rape and steal. So you admit SOME do. I knew those fuckers were not to be trusted with their creepy make up.

Anonymous said...

Hey Kersey, did you hear the story about the black actor Idris Elba playing James Bond?

Van said...

Anon: "Hey Kersey, did you hear the story about the black actor Idris Elba playing James Bond?"

In an interview, Elba states that one reason he would be suitable is because he's English. Blacks really do steal everything - even our ethnicities.

Whiskey said...

A Janitor at some midwest University who attended classes part time was fired for ... get this ... reading "Notre Dame vs the Klan: The True Story of How The Fighting Irish Defeated the KKK." A Black co-worker complained, he was fired, and fortunately sued with help from a conservative legal group.

The book was (and is) an anti-Klan book, describing how the Klan grew in Indiana and other MidWest States out of not just anti-Black but anti-Catholic and anti-Jewish sentiment by displaced Protestant Scots-Irish. This was the second incarnation of the Klan, the first being run from 1866 to about 1878 when Nathan Bedford Forrest ordered the Klan shut down because he couldn't raise money from Northern investors for various business ventures.

Short version: the Klan came to South Bend to kick Notre Dame students ass, the football team turned out en-masse and with students and townspeople kicked the Klan's behind but good, the fight being between Irish/Eastern European Cathholics vs. Scots-Irish Protestants, basically. No Black people involved, but the Klan as loser. The Black co-worker said she was "offended" by the title of the book, and thus the janitor (a White guy) was canned, and later rehired with damages.

You cannot make this stuff up.

Anonymous said...

A little off the subject, but it relates...

I was at the San Francisco Zoo about 20 years ago looking at an exhibit of colubus monkeys. One of animals was an albino: No pigment, red eyes, etc. When I was going to move on to the next exhibit, a group of about ten affluent looking, conservatively dressed blacks with their children came by to get a better look at the albino monkey.

After viewing it for a minute or so, one of males of this group -- in all seriousness, mind you -- said to the children: "That's because of the white man. Some white scientist made him that way. White scientists are always doing evil things like this and like making AIDS and crack." No one in the group discouraged or contradicted him.

The modern, college educated black is racist beyond comprehension.

Anonymous said...

FUBU my definition us frequently unemployed black underachievers ©

Dissident said...

"The KKK is more of a jobs program for federal law enforcement agencies,and informants."

This is a fact. Go to a Klan meeting and 50 out of a hundred will be co-intelpro or FBI informants.

What a freaking joke this is.

Anonymous said...

"The modern, college educated black is racist beyond comprehension."

This is the natural consequence of "African-American Studies", which is not an academic field, but a political agenda.

Anonymous said...

Thing is, why can't blacks take all the energy they waste in outrage over trivia like this and instead invest it in doing something about school drop-out and illegitimacy rates? There seems to be a really odd set of priorities at work here.

Anonymous said...

Hey Whiskey,

I remember that case you're referring to about the janitor. Insane!

Artist

map said...

Paul, you should start a thread on guns.

Anonymous said...

Mr_Evergreen,

A serious question for you: What are you doing here? What is your motivation to post?

You seem like a decent guy. I think you're looking for the middle ground.

What's up with you?

Artist

bubo said...

I laughed out loud at the woman who was too terrified to go through the intersection with the racist KKK Mexican snowcone.

How silly. Blacks walk over dead bodies while making a fried chicken run. They watch black gangs leave bullet riddled bodies in their streets while they shrug and go back to watching TV but a guy in a sheet scares them literally to death.

mr_evergreen said...

"A serious question for you: What are you doing here? What is your motivation to post?

You seem like a decent guy. I think you're looking for the middle ground"

My motive is to show that most Black people aren't as the criminals frequently shown on this sight. I felt like I had a different perspective to offer.

Anonymous said...

"My motive is to show that most Black people aren't as the criminals frequently shown on this sight."

Have you met the majority of the black people on the planet?
I didn't think so, but for argument's sake lets say you're right- The MAJORITY are not criminals, they're just incompetent and incapable of refraining from destroying anything they come in contact with.

Anonymous said...

"My motive is to show that most Black people aren't as the criminals frequently shown on this sight."

Mr Evergreen...you're missing the point.

It really doesn't matter whether or not "most" black people are criminals.

All the matters is...the percentage of blacks who are criminals is statistically significant.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statistics_of_incarcerated_African-American_males

The best way to avoid crime is to avoid black people.

Anonymous said...

"My motive is to show that most Black people aren't as the criminals frequently shown on this sight."

If you bring the criminals with you, that's a distinction without a difference.

Anonymous said...

Ret'd LAPD here. I don't know if you are aware of it, but Snapple had to change their bottle design because of black whinery. You see, the Snapple Iced Tea labels all had a famous scene of the Boston Tea Party on them. You know, masted sailing ships in Boston Harbor with people dressed as Indians throwing crates of tea overboard as a protest against unfair taxation. Well, the blacks said it was actually a scene depicting slave ships and demanded it be removed. Snapple acquiesced and changed the labels around, almost going bankrupt in the process trying to plead with the aggrieved blacks.

Zenster mentioned the accusations that the CIA brought crack into the black community. I was working a security detail for John Deutch when he addressed the loud, volatile, mostly black crowd. He couldn't get a word in edgewise, the blacks were screaming and howling, it was complete chaos. The blacks had made up their minds that the CIA brought the drugs in and that's all the blacks wanted to hear.

A few years later the cocksucker who wrote the article for the San Jose Mercury News that started the whole CIA-crack conspiracy thing killed himself. That brought a smile to my face, like when I heard that William Kunstler had died.

Simon Jester said...

How silly. Blacks walk over dead bodies while making a fried chicken run. They watch black gangs leave bullet riddled bodies in their streets while they shrug and go back to watching TV but a guy in a sheet scares them literally to death.

Yeah, that's a good one, isn't it? I also always get a chuckle when blacks get all bent out of shape by the word "nigger." Have you heard the lexicon of the average Negro in America? I don't believe that they're a people whose sensibilities are really all that delicate.

Anonymous said...

"It's the KKK!!!"

No, it's a man dressed like a vanilla ice cream cone.

The blacks sniveling and whining about this remind me of the time one of the "pro-family" groups were making noises about The Muppets characters Bert and Ernie being homosexual. Someone, in an interview, asked creator Jim Henson what Bert and Ernie were. His reply: "Puppets".

The man in the costume: an ice cream cone.
Bert and Ernie: puppets.

Folks can read anything in to what they see. But in the end, there is reality.

Joseph Doakes

eh said...

My motive is to show that most Black people aren't as the criminals frequently shown on this sight.

Oh good grief man. We know that. People here know that "most", i.e. more than 50%, of Blacks aren't "criminals". But too many Blacks are criminals. And too many others are despicably hypocritical about that fact.

Your first comment was just a worthless PC jibe.

You know, as has surely been pointed out here before, black males are approx 5% of the population in the US, but per DOJ statistics commit over 50% of all murders. Just think about that damning stat for a moment. Given grossly disproportionate black criminality in general, and considering the toll all of that takes on society, as well as all the attendant costs of it (cops, courts, prisons, probation, etc etc), I've before posed this question: What is the net economic contribution of Blacks to the US? Is it actually positive?

So get a grip, and stop the stupid PC soundbites.

mr_evergreen said...

"What is the net economic contribution of Blacks to the US? Is it actually positive?"

Well, Blacks spent over $507 billion dollars in 27 categories in services as of 2009.

In 1980, more money was lost to White collar crime than to all forms of street crime. In 2006, $57 million dollars were lost to identity theft.

Anonymous said...

Of course all black males are not criminals. Out of 5% of black males how many are criminals? 1 in 5? 1 in 10? This means 50% of murders in this country are commited by less than 1% of the total population.

Van said...

Evergreen: "Well, Blacks spent over $507 billion dollars in 27 categories in services as of 2009."

That would not be the net economic contribution.

We also need to know how much these companies spend on various EEOC programs to avoid frivolous lawsuits, lost productivity due to AA hires/promotions, etc.

You'll next have to find out how much blacks took in from various welfare services (federal and state governments spend nearly a trillion per year on total combined welfare programs; this goes disproportionately to blacks). Then the costs for housing and monitoring all the blacks in prison and on probation/parole. Black share of various government services like public education, roads, etc.

Then look at total taxes paid (not withheld, actually paid).

Will the final number be in the red or the black (no pun intended)?

Considering that blacks are so massively overrepresented in crime, welfare use, do-nothing government jobs, do-nothing corporate "diversity" jobs that don't contribute to productivity, lower incomes that pay no federal income tax and little to no state taxes, etc etc, it is simply impossible that blacks are anything but a financial loss to society.

"In 1980, more money was lost to White collar crime than to all forms of street crime. In 2006, $57 million dollars were lost to identity theft."

Blacks are over-represented in EVERY white collar crime category. They are 12% of the population but greater than that for white collar crime offenders. Consider the fact that only a limited number of people can commit some white collar crimes (a construction worker is very unlikely to be in position to commit insider trading), and that blacks are UNDER represented in those careers, the fact that they are OVER represented among those crimes is even more damning.

Look, Evergreen, there is not a single thing you can say that will be new to anyone here; that hasn't been examined and discarded a thousand times. You seem to think that the people on this site hold these opinions because of a lack of information. The opposite is true. People like you, and ridiculous liberal anti-racists, are the ones in the dark.

Van said...

In 2007, the last year for which data is available, total combined welfare spending was $700 billion.

Despite being 12% of the population, blacks are just over 40% of those using welfare programs. So they received $280 billion of the welfare dollars spent.

10mm AUTO said...

Mr Evergreen is what is known as the "Reasonable Herring". He represents the attempt to deflect and dissuade anyone from focusing on concrete solutions, especially concrete solutions that might affect negroids. Notice he has gone from accepting black criminality to arguing categories and types.

The solution is removal from this land. Africa is a much larger continent that America and rich with natural resources and Whites are only a small precentage of the World. Whether it is mass transport or birth control for negroids on Welfare, We need to to talking about legislation, targeting and supporting congress critters who might be in our camp, beginning on the state level to phase out Unlimited negroid births on Welfare, forming a private company to offer permanent sterilization to negroid females in exchange for a cash gift. Planned Para-"hood" has been holding the line by offering just abortions, now the flow must be stopped at the source. The Liberals have put in laws that allow females to receive "Reproductive Services" without even parental consent. Look at the movie "Precious" and we see that a $3000 to $5000 cash gift would be very tempting to a negroid female in school or on the street, especially if it was done in the process of an abortion.

Californian said...

My motive is to show that most Black people aren't as the criminals frequently shown on this sight. I felt like I had a different perspective to offer.

Most white people had nothing to do with slavery or segregation, but many blacks hold them accountable for these "crimes" and insist on extracting reparations for them generations after they long since ended. If blacks can hold whites collectively responsible for "crimes," then how can anyone complain when the shoe is on the other foot?

(I referred to slavery and segregation as "crimes" in quotes because neither were illegal at the time. And let us note that both have been routinely practiced by blacks. Look at how today in the rainbow nation of South Africa, whites are treated as second class citizens via affirmative action, BEE, and attacks on their culture...not to mention massive black-on-white criminality. This is one reason that some whites get a little concerned over becoming a minority in their own countries: one can see that black or third world or whatever majority rule leads not to some multicultist paradise, but instead subjugation of European peoples. By the way, would anyone care to explain why, if lynching was so wrong during segregation, black attacks on white farmers in SA elicits nary a word of protest from the usual race hustlers here in the USA?)

Another point to be considered: if something like Howard Beach or the Duke University lacrosse trio can cause the race hustlers to condemn whites collectively for a recrudescent "racism," (even when in the latter case, the criminal charge was false), then why does today's epidemic of black-on-white flash mob violence go by the boards? Where are the condemnations of "racism," the Al Sharpsters and their lawsuits, the liberal breast beaters, the Eric Holders and their dialogs on race?

Why the double standard?

Anonymous said...

One common conspiracy theory popular among blacks is that Asians get covert help from the U.S. government, and that is one of the reasons why they are so successful. Black people resent Asians for being everything that they are not: hard-working, frugal, patient, diligent, studious, entrepreneurial, etc. Blacks have gotten it into their own minds that Asians have to be getting help in order to enjoy their relatively high standards of living in U.S. society. For many blacks, it's easier to accuse Asians of cheating to be successful than it is to accept that they, the blacks themselves, are their own worst enemy.

Anonymous said...

@ Anon. @ September 30, 2011 2:42 PM

Blacks are envious of any other ethnic groups period. Whenever there's a an important Negroid population settling anywhere, in any country worldwide, destruction & chaos ensues. They know deep down that they can't make it on their own merit, they're just too ill-equipped to function in the real world.

Zenster said...

eh: You know, as has surely been pointed out here before, black males are approx 5% of the population in the US, but per DOJ statistics commit over 50% of all murders.

Then subtract, as Paul Kersey and others have noted, a million Blacks in jail, plus the toddler and senior Black populations that do not, or no longer, participate in Black crime and suddenly you have whittled down this Black criminal element to an incredibly violent group of predatory, incorrigible and habitual offenders that need to be taken down with lethal force. STAT!

Anonymous said...

@ Anon. @ September 30, 2011 2:42 PM

I never heard that one before, but it's true that blacks are apoplectic about Asian American success in white society. But they are ten times angrier at the East Asians with whiter skin than South or Southeast Asians. Most blacks don't even know the difference (let alone finding them on a map), but if they mentally add up all their grievances, it falls more squarely on the Far Eastern ones.

Zenster said...

Anonymous (September 30, 2011 2:42 PM): Blacks have gotten it into their own minds that Asians have to be getting help in order to enjoy their relatively high standards of living in U.S. society.

It's obvious that the Asians have to be "getting help in order to enjoy their relatively high standards of living in U.S. society." What other explanation could there possibly be?

Save that Blacks, in general, exhibit an almost adamantine refusal to be productive and succeed in White society. What other explanation is there for the almost wholesale lack of financial success in America's Black community? Especially so with respect to the Liberal community's immense efforts towards guaranteeing not just equality of opportunity but equality of OUTCOME.

This is a perversion that transcends all American ideals yet, exemplifies every last goal of the Obama administration.

There is no way to equalize outcome, no matter how desperately, or forcibly, anyone attempts to equalize opportunity.

Yet, this is what Liberals do with almost total disregard for the cognitive dissonance required to imagine that such an unrealistic goal could be obtained without anything short of Nazi or Communist force of arms.

I leave it to those who read these words that they may guess what sort of "force of arms" may eventually be required to obtain that "equality of outcome".

Such an object demands a level of force and Fascism that defies all reasonable descriptions.

D J said...

Anon 2:42 "One common conspiracy theory popular among blacks is that Asians get covert help from the U.S. government, and that is one of the reasons why they are so successful. (emphasis mine)

I hear the same meme from quite a few Whites; blacks don't hold any exclusive on that excuse.

Anonymous said...

The modern, college educated black is racist beyond comprehension.

That's because most of them get an "education" in African studies or some other bullshit

Anonymous said...

@ Anon. @ September 30, 2011 2:42 PM

I never heard that one before, but it's true that blacks are apoplectic about Asian American success in white society. But they are ten times angrier at the East Asians with whiter skin than South or Southeast Asians. Most blacks don't even know the difference (let alone finding them on a map), but if they mentally add up all their grievances, it falls more squarely on the Far Eastern ones.


There were many rumors among the negro community during the 80's and 90's that the US govt was giving every Asian family $50,000 to start up a business. The reality was that the Asian immigrants have community loans where groups of successful Asians will lend money to a trusted member of the community to start a business. As long as the business is successful, they are paid back. I think they're called micro loans these days by the lame stream media

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Anonymous said...

There are minority owned business loans avaiable, but blacks can actually qualify for them.

Anonymous said...

What a shocker! Blacks complain about everything! These whiners always find some stupid excuse to blame others, when the problem is staring at them right in the mirror.

mr_evergreen said...

"There are minority owned business loans avaiable, but blacks can actually qualify for them."

Why haven't I heard of them?

SwampThizzle said...

LOL @ Discard. Too funny.

@ eh: eh-xactly. You forgot to mention that over 1 million black males are currently behind bars right now yet they still commit well over 50% of murders (the stat is 52% which doesn't include the unsolved murders that were certainly committed by black males). That fact is noteworthy.